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Asonate
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 4. September 2017 at 14:31:21

Artist: Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY
Title: Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)
Tags: festival trap trapcity electro house low bpm holds low SV jumpy deathstream acc
BPM: 140
Filesize: 8430kb
Play Time: 05:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Can you keep it? (4,96 stars, 1221 notes)
Download: Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)
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For fun.
Ashton

Asonate wrote:

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonntag, 15. Mai 2016 at 01:39:39

Artist: Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY
Title: Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)
Tags: trap trapcity
BPM: 140
Filesize: 7246kb
Play Time: 01:12
Difficulties Available:
  1. Can you keep it? (4,47 stars, 265 notes)
Download: Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)
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Can you keep a secret?

todo: edit description to not look shit
Nice map!
-M4x
Made some general suggestions about rhyhtm and playability.

IRC chatlog
22:06 *Asonate is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/976556 Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)]
22:06 Asonate: ka
22:06 Asonate: ob remap oder nich
22:07 Asonate: ar rauf wegen empfehlung von testplayer
22:52 -M4x: wat
22:53 -M4x: was war die ar
23:11 Asonate: 9
23:11 Asonate: jetzt 9.3
23:12 -M4x: hmm
23:12 -M4x: idk
23:13 Asonate: ich mein
23:13 Asonate: ich kanns passen, ich kanns accen und alles
23:13 Asonate: aber no idea
23:14 Asonate: ob das so das beste ist was ich schaff
23:18 Asonate: in anderen worten:
23:18 Asonate: wenns irgendwas gibt, was dich stört, sags mir :3
23:19 -M4x: ich schau gleich
23:19 -M4x: gehe gerade ne first map durch u_u
23:20 Asonate: owo
23:20 Asonate: viel glück
23:20 Asonate: danach wird meine ja aussehen wie skystar :^)
23:20 -M4x: thx ...
23:20 -M4x: eher wie handsome, handsome <3
23:21 Asonate: :^)
23:32 Asonate: vielleicht bin ich ja handsome
23:32 Asonate: oder manuel neuer :^)
23:32 -M4x: als adjektiv gesehen ja
23:32 Asonate: :^)
23:32 Asonate: wie schlimm isses?
23:32 Asonate: schick mal
23:33 Asonate: ich wills sehen :3
23:36 -M4x: ....
23:36 *-M4x is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/975651 Yuki Kajiura - Promised Pain]
23:38 Asonate: owo
23:38 *Asonate slowly runs away
23:39 *Asonate doesnt want the promised pain
23:39 Asonate: hast ihm schon erklärt dass 3 point slider existieren?
23:40 -M4x: :3
23:40 -M4x: ja
23:41 Asonate: is auch komisch weil er die so alle 10 slider verwendet
23:41 Asonate: und dann wieder nicht owo
23:42 -M4x: ich versuche gerade hauptsächlich optische sachen zu erklären
23:42 -M4x: weil
23:42 -M4x: rhyhthm technisch kommt er schon gut selbst drauf wenn man ihm sagt was falsch ist
23:43 -M4x: außerdem
23:43 Asonate: ja
23:43 -M4x: was will man zu ryhthm in easy/normal diffs erklären xD
23:43 Asonate: das is meistens
23:43 -M4x: vorallem
23:43 -M4x: er ist 450k
23:43 Asonate: first map = optische atombombe
23:43 -M4x: und mapped
23:43 Asonate: ooo
23:43 Asonate: soll
23:43 Asonate: er
23:43 Asonate: vl mal etwas erfahrung holen...
23:44 -M4x: ja
23:44 Asonate: währenddessen versucht shige
23:44 Asonate: elemental creation mit HDHR zu fcen
23:45 -M4x: xDD
23:45 Asonate: wenns auf das ding nur nomodfcs gibt lol
23:45 Asonate: dacht sich wahrscheinlich "rrtyui ss snipen"
23:49 -M4x: xD
23:51 -M4x: http://puu.sh/oTbK9/5b347ed870.osz
23:51 -M4x: meme map
23:52 -M4x: weiß nicht ob du die shcon hasr xD
23:54 Asonate: filthy
23:54 Asonate: frank
23:54 Asonate: dayum
23:56 -M4x: ya
23:56 -M4x: hast du secretspipes updated?
23:57 Asonate: ya
23:57 -M4x: hyype
23:57 Asonate: hab ein bisschen repariert
23:57 Asonate: hab nen sound falsch gemappt lol
23:57 -M4x: lmap
23:57 *Asonate is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/976556 Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix) [Can you keep it?]]
23:58 -M4x: 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) - 00:04:839 (1) -
23:58 -M4x: DER FINISH AAAAH
23:58 -M4x: remove pls :^)
23:58 Asonate: lol
23:59 Asonate: 00:13:410 (6) - hab da auch
23:59 Asonate: weggemacht
23:59 -M4x: 00:13:410 (6) - same
23:59 -M4x: 00:13:625 (1) - dafür hier auf start
00:00 Asonate: aber
00:00 Asonate: sollt ich nicht keine auf red ticks?
00:00 -M4x: da schon :^)
00:00 *-M4x hides
00:00 Asonate: 00:14:482 (3) - da dann auch?
00:00 -M4x: ya
00:01 Asonate: SO HAB ICH AM ANFANG GEHABT ASFADFSFFDAFS
00:02 Asonate: ok changed
00:02 Asonate: btw
00:02 -M4x: digga die streams kannste nicht bringen xD
00:02 Asonate: you know that feel
00:03 Asonate: find awesome remix of genryuu kaiko
00:03 Asonate: 4:40 long ;w;
00:03 Asonate: lol
00:03 Asonate: welche genau?
00:03 -M4x: alles was neu ist
00:03 Asonate: lol
00:03 Asonate: why
00:03 -M4x: weil da jeder breaked
00:03 Asonate: alles bis auf die 1/6 kann ich eig ssen lol
00:03 -M4x: aber
00:03 -M4x: lass mich erstmal testen
00:04 Asonate: WART
00:04 -M4x: kannste schnell uppen
00:04 Asonate: muss updaten erst
00:04 -M4x: nice
00:04 *-M4x is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/976556 Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix) [Don't think so lol]]
00:05 Asonate: baka
00:05 -M4x: link pls
00:05 Asonate: updated
00:05 -M4x: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/456038
00:05 Asonate: du hast grad selber
00:05 -M4x: btw check description
00:05 Asonate: du eumel
00:05 -M4x: ne
00:06 -M4x: andere diffname
00:06 -M4x: du eumel
00:06 *Asonate is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/976556 Tiesto & KSHMR feat. VASSY - Secrets (Instant Party! Remix)]
00:06 -M4x: DANKE
00:08 Asonate: lol
00:08 Asonate: die desc
00:08 Asonate: "DNB VS DRUMSTEP"
00:08 Asonate: on that note
00:08 Asonate: sollt mal if i rip weiterdingsen
00:08 Asonate: imo das schwerste
00:08 -M4x: ich sag mal so
00:08 Asonate: is wirklich das 1/6 zeug
00:09 -M4x: ich kenne einen der dir das dingen instant wegballert wenns q'ed ist
00:09 Asonate: ich kann mir vorstellen das ohne die 1/6er alles ziemlich machbar wäre
00:09 -M4x: ja
00:09 Asonate: irre?
00:09 Asonate: lol
00:09 Asonate: WART ICH HOL IHN SCHNELL
00:09 -M4x: desperatekuni aber ja irre auch
00:09 Asonate: millhi glaub ich auch
00:11 Asonate: der hat mir schon auf singularity gesagt dass er das ding totdqed
00:11 Asonate: weil es mit eZ logischerweise ziemlich unspielbar is lol
00:11 -M4x: hmm
00:11 Asonate: ich remapps glaub ich so oder so mal
00:11 -M4x: singu?
00:11 Asonate: weil die streamstarts shit sind
00:11 Asonate: und mit denen kann ich gleich alles neu machen
00:11 Asonate: ye
00:13 Asonate: wart, ich remapp schnell
00:13 Asonate: kurzes headsup
00:13 Asonate: was wird mir weggeballert?
00:13 Asonate: die 1/16 kicks
00:13 Asonate: oder was anderes
00:13 Asonate: ?
00:15 -M4x: ne
00:15 -M4x: 01:17:267 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
00:15 -M4x: die
00:15 -M4x: weil NIEMAND da 1/6 readed
00:15 -M4x: wirklich NIEMAND
00:15 Asonate: DAS HAB ICH JA DIE GANZE ZEIT GESAGT
00:16 -M4x: die kicks sind schlussendlich doch fine glaub ich
00:16 Asonate: DASS ICH WEN WILL DER MIR SAGT DASS DIE WEGSOLLEN
00:16 Asonate: die 1/16
00:16 Asonate: oder welche
00:16 -M4x: ja
00:16 -M4x: alle kicks
00:16 -M4x: ich hab nur ein problem mit den "nicht 1/4 streams"
00:17 Asonate: ok
00:17 Asonate: ich remaps trotzdem
00:17 -M4x: lmao
00:17 -M4x: aber nur die stream section
00:17 Asonate: bin selbst etwas unzufrieden mit dem ding
00:17 Asonate: weil ich die 1/6 dreimal neu gemacht hab
00:17 -M4x: ganz ehrlich wenn ichs machen würde ich würds jumpy machen
00:17 Asonate: und dadurch das ganze patterning im arsch is
00:17 Asonate: jumpy, aber trotzdem streamy
00:17 Asonate: oder wie
00:17 -M4x: ne
00:18 Asonate: kickslider dann?
00:18 -M4x: meine map würd so KOMPLETT ANDERS aussehen
00:18 -M4x: glaub mir
00:18 -M4x: 100% anders
00:18 -M4x: sogar
00:18 Asonate: i know m8
00:18 -M4x: thomas anders
00:18 -M4x: vllt gefällt dir ja meine idee
00:19 Asonate: drop mir
00:23 -M4x: warte
00:24 Asonate: sur
00:29 -M4x: http://puu.sh/oTeqU/98d62b086a.gif
00:31 Asonate: da bin ich dir voraus
00:31 Asonate: hab ich schon längst m8
00:35 -M4x: ich send dir zweite osu ok?
00:35 -M4x: also mit anderen namen
00:36 Asonate: k
00:37 -M4x: http://puu.sh/oTeX3/72af86d5cc.osu
00:37 -M4x: nur ein vorschlag der auf den rhythm change scheißt
00:38 -M4x: und ignorier die pattern die sind einfach nur hingeklatscht
00:40 -M4x: zum glück muss ich die map nicht mappen
00:40 Asonate: ich muss sagen
00:40 -M4x: sondern nur spielen
00:40 Asonate: lol
00:40 -M4x: xD
00:40 Asonate: ich würd sie
00:40 Asonate: streamier machen
00:40 Asonate: aber mit mehr kicksliderpatterns als vorher
00:40 -M4x: alright
00:40 -M4x: war nur suggestion
00:41 -M4x: kds pls
00:41 Asonate: post pls
00:41 Asonate: want that sp :^)

Good Luck :)
Douky
Hey ! A little mod for your map ! So you can finish it on good basics :D

00:08:910 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The jump between the note and the triple is big , and you've got to change sharp direction, this is a bit hard for the intro. You could make the triples in the direction of the jump or reduce spacing maybe ?

00:10:839 (2) - This slider is a little ugly , try doing it more symmetrical

00:23:910 (1,1) - You should place thoses two more line up, it will makes it smoother to play

00:27:339 (7,1) - Try not to change combo in middle of jumps , some peoples really like followpoint ^^

00:29:267 (1,1,1,1) - I would have space them a bit more , it feels really heavy to play when they are so much close

00:49:410 (4,2) - The overlap between thoses 2 looks like a mistake , Not overlapping them would be better in my opinion

01:03:982 (2,3) - Here the slider direction goes away , and the next note is behind it , I could be easily missread

01:10:410 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is soooooooooooooooooooo sliderbreak potential, too much

01:11:696 (9,10,11,12) - 2 sliders instead ? The timing is very hard to guess

01:16:410 (9) - slider between 2 streams is a good optiion too

01:18:553 (3,4,5,6) - usually , when mapping this pattern , you make the 2 doubles in the same direction

01:21:553 (1,2) - this one is much more spaced than the one earlier

01:24:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as before

01:25:410 (8,9,10,11) - Same

Globally The Map is very interessting to play, I like the fact that sliders are very short and the streams have very good shapes !
I'm up for the end of this map :D Good Luck !
Topic Starter
Asonate

Douky wrote:

Hey ! A little mod for your map ! So you can finish it on good basics :D

00:08:910 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The jump between the note and the triple is big , and you've got to change sharp direction, this is a bit hard for the intro. You could make the triples in the direction of the jump or reduce spacing maybe ? We're at 140 bpm, this jump is very hittable, even my not quite highranked testplayers were able to hit that. Since the direction of the triple is exerted with really small speed, the direction isn't as bad.

00:10:839 (2) - This slider is a little ugly , try doing it more symmetrical was intentional, but i made it a bit more "ordinary"

00:23:910 (1,1) - You should place thoses two more line up, it will makes it smoother to play they are in a perfect line (its just curved), what you probably misunderstood is that the second slider is placed on the sliderpath where the first would be.

00:27:339 (7,1) - Try not to change combo in middle of jumps , some peoples really like followpoint ^^ NC because of 1. Downbeat 2. Rhythm in the song

00:29:267 (1,1,1,1) - I would have space them a bit more , it feels really heavy to play when they are so much close It's supposed to feel heavy, this is also supposed to act as a slowdown before the next section

00:49:410 (4,2) - The overlap between thoses 2 looks like a mistake , Not overlapping them would be better in my opinion while they are still overlapped, i made it look like an intentional overlap (it was intentional before as well, but i can understand why you would complain about it)

01:03:982 (2,3) - Here the slider direction goes away , and the next note is behind it , I could be easily missread should be perfectly readable, i dont see any reason as to why it wouldnt be

01:10:410 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - This is soooooooooooooooooooo sliderbreak potential, too much i know, i know, but i'll keep this for now. If theres more complaints in the future ill nerf the spacing

01:11:696 (9,10,11,12) - 2 sliders instead ? The timing is very hard to guess its easily readable? ive had 1/4 at similar spacing before, and i expect the players to be able to read a bit.

01:16:410 (9) - slider between 2 streams is a good optiion too ive thought of that before, the thing is, there isnt anything on the next blue tick. Will change if theres more complaints

01:18:553 (3,4,5,6) - usually , when mapping this pattern , you make the 2 doubles in the same direction i didnt have any of these doubles before tho? If you mean in general, even less reason, since this emphasizes the song way better. And again, 140 bpm, its way easier to aim.

01:21:553 (1,2) - this one is much more spaced than the one earlier the one before is 3.5 DS, this one is 3.3... Thats not a big difference

01:24:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same as before same as before

01:25:410 (8,9,10,11) - Same same

Globally The Map is very interessting to play, I like the fact that sliders are very short and the streams have very good shapes ! Glad you enjoy my turn on trap :3
I'm up for the end of this map :D Good Luck !
Thanks alot, also thanks for your time!
Sorry for rejecting so much, but i have a very clear way of mapping this already and as you misunderstood some of my intentions there were bound to be some rejections.

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Also applied tons of suggestion by -M4x, as well as an AR change as suggested by Okorin!
Lets see how long it will take till the first "change to AR 9" gets in xD
-M4x
Nice BG choice ;)
Topic Starter
Asonate

-M4x wrote:

Nice BG choice ;)
thanks, a pretty cool guy chose it xd
Ashton
General: You should add a storyboard with names of all the collabers
and I think you should use this hitsound : http://puu.sh/q1ru6/4d746124a3.wav

Collab

02:58:410 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this is just my opinion but I think these jumps should get bigger and bigger as the songs volume rises
00:57:125 (6,7) - ncs?
01:17:053 (4,5) - I think this would be better replaced with a reverse 1/4 slider
01:48:982 (3) - there's a little snare drum (I think I don't know much about instruments) so a clap hitsound would sound cool
01:50:696 - ^^^
01:52:410 - ^^^


can you keep it?

01:10:410 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is SOOO hard and diffucult for a 4* I would just replace it with a few reverse 1/4 sliders
01:24:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same thing





Thanks!

this probably wasn't that good
Ashton
Graveyard :/
Topic Starter
Asonate

Canadian Baka wrote:

Graveyard :/
lets try again i guess
Sqorpion
ayyyyyyy

00:08:910 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - NC on the first note of each triplet wouldn't be a bad idea, but either way should be fine.

00:22:410 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 and 5, and 2 and 6 feel like they should be overlaps.

00:59:267 (3) - Remove reverse on this and add a slider here 00:59:696 - and here 01:00:125 - . This should fit the music better.

01:02:696 (3,4,5) - Similar issue to the one above.

01:05:696 (2) - I'm not entirely sure if this slider is offscreen, but it might be a good idea to move it up just in case.

01:06:125 (3,4,1) - Same

01:11:696 (9) - NC

01:25:410 (8) - ^

01:27:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern just doesn't fit in with the rest of the map. Either go with triangles or squares, not both.

01:52:839 (8) - NC

02:06:553 (8) - ^

02:26:160 (2,3) - Might want to move these a bit closer to 02:25:839 (1) - , but I think either should be fine

02:29:589 (2,3) - Similar issue here, but definitely move the notes in front of the slider, as it would be pretty awkward otherwise.

03:23:267 (3,4,1) - Same issue as the previous chorus

03:26:696 (3,4,1) - ^

03:30:125 (3,4,1) - ^

03:35:696 (9) - NC

03:49:410 (8) - ^

04:16:839 (8) - ^

NC either here: 04:26:053 (8) - or here: 04:26:267 (10) -

04:30:553 (8) - NC

04:44:267 (1,1,1,1) - Why are all of these NC'd?

04:57:982 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^

Also, there are a lot of sliders that look really weird and/or ugly. Could just be me, but I would change a few of them.
Examples: 01:29:267 (1) - , 01:06:767 (4) - , 01:05:267 (1) -

Alright, that's all I found. Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
Asonate

sYreNn wrote:

ayyyyyyy

00:08:910 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - NC on the first note of each triplet wouldn't be a bad idea, but either way should be fine. thinnk its fine like this, dont want to spam ncs when its not too necessary for drain/clarity

00:22:410 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1 and 5, and 2 and 6 feel like they should be overlaps. They are overlaps tho?

00:59:267 (3) - Remove reverse on this and add a slider here 00:59:696 - and here 01:00:125 - . This should fit the music better. No, because that defeats the entire point of mapping the main hittable objects to the heavy drums. I have the synths hitsounded via sliderends, too.

01:02:696 (3,4,5) - Similar issue to the one above. ^

01:05:696 (2) - I'm not entirely sure if this slider is offscreen, but it might be a good idea to move it up just in case. did just that

01:06:125 (3,4,1) - Same Same

01:11:696 (9) - NC done

01:25:410 (8) - ^ done

01:27:553 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern just doesn't fit in with the rest of the map. Either go with triangles or squares, not both. disagree here, i think this pattern works really well

01:52:839 (8) - NC color=#00BFFF]done[/color]

02:06:553 (8) - ^ color=#00BFFF]done[/color]

02:26:160 (2,3) - Might want to move these a bit closer to 02:25:839 (1) - , but I think either should be fine 02:26:160 (2) - want emphasis on this, mixed with lowish bpm thats really doable

02:29:589 (2,3) - Similar issue here, but definitely move the notes in front of the slider, as it would be pretty awkward otherwise. as with here

03:23:267 (3,4,1) - Same issue as the previous chorus same response

03:26:696 (3,4,1) - ^ ^

03:30:125 (3,4,1) - ^ ^


03:35:696 (9) - NC done

03:49:410 (8) - ^ done

04:16:839 (8) - ^ done

NC either here: 04:26:053 (8) - or here: 04:26:267 (10) - gonna get more opinions

04:30:553 (8) - NC done

04:44:267 (1,1,1,1) - Why are all of these NC'd? no idea, ill fix it however!

04:57:982 (1,1,1,1,1) - ^ as well as here

Also, there are a lot of sliders that look really weird and/or ugly. Could just be me, but I would change a few of them.
Examples: 01:29:267 (1) - , 01:06:767 (4) - , 01:05:267 (1) - Now thats where it gets really subjective, and while i can change some of these, id rather wait for more opinions on them

Alright, that's all I found. Good luck! :)
Thanks man!

gonna redo all ncs later on, so for now i didnt change anything. Theres so much off to me with those, ill have to renc anything anyways, so ill fix stuff then!
Sqorpion
no kd?
:(
Topic Starter
Asonate
Woops, mb
LifeJumb
increase AR to 9
Topic Starter
Asonate

LifeJumb wrote:

increase AR to 9
I do not plan to go Ar 9, sorry
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