yanaginagi - Vidro Moyou · forum

Yamicchi

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-07-24T02:24:27+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
yamicchi's li
00:52:838 - there's a cymbal crash here, why not just make this a triple to map it out? 1/4 slider then :^)
01:13:449 (2) - would prefer if this isn't snapped 1/8, small window to hit this and would be pretty rough for people who play 3 star maps like this. you do at 00:30:624 (8,1) - , anyways done~

kk, you can call me back for bubble once these get addressed

Thanks Plau <3

A nho chinh sb cho tao tao xoa sb roi lag qua hjhj

rank cmm di Hoki

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TitleUnicode:ビードロ模様
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ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
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Version:Yamicchi's Light Insane
Source:あの夏で待ってる
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364,36,86960,2,0,L|316:32,3,40,0|0|0|0,3:2|3:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
248,52,87418,2,0,L|200:48,3,40,8|0|0|0,3:2|3:2|3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
132,72,87876,6,0,P|124:104|124:124,1,40,0|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
48,140,88105,2,0,P|64:168|79:182,1,40,0|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
36,247,88334,2,0,P|68:255|88:255,1,40,8|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
104,331,88563,2,0,P|132:314|146:299,1,40,0|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
211,343,88792,2,0,P|219:311|219:291,1,40,0|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
312,232,89021,6,0,L|248:240,1,40,8|0,3:2|3:2,0:0:0:0:
408,268,89250,2,0,L|446:319,1,40,8|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
391,166,89479,2,0,L|416:106,1,40,8|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,152,89708,1,4,2:2:0:0:

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Hokichi

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Hokichi 2017-07-24T02:31:36+00:00

Plaudible wrote:
hey! recheck~

you're missing epilepsy warning in top 3 difficulties still
all diffs still missing 01:07:724 - and 01:13:907 - finish

normal
00:32:915 (1,2,3) - what happened to ds here lol
01:27:876 (3) - nc missing

hard
00:04:976 (3,1) - spacing here feels too large, compare to 00:08:640 (7,1) -
00:15:510 (5,6) - if you dont include the 1/8 here i dont think you should at 00:14:823 (2,3) - either, it's fine to undermap both. you don't use 1/8 now anyways later, so it should be k // 00:15:052 (3) - I removed this, since it's single tap so it shouldn't be too hard. Did some check at that spot with some mappers, and it's ok.
00:07:953 (5) - nc
01:04:747 (3,5) - odd overlap imo // I swear to god I didn't do that but fixed lol
01:10:014 (2,3,4,5,6) - jumps a bit too big here, consider making the star overall a bit smaller :< 01:28:792 (3,4,5,6,1) - is perfect

yamicchi's li
00:52:838 - there's a cymbal crash here, why not just make this a triple to map it out?
01:13:449 (2) - would prefer if this isn't snapped 1/8, small window to hit this and would be pretty rough for people who play 3 star maps like this. you do at 00:30:624 (8,1) - , anyways

kk, you can call me back for bubble once these get addressed

Thanks for reply
All fix but replied

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-07-24T02:34:06+00:00

Can I ask why the highest diff is named "Pattern"?

Hokichi

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Hokichi 2017-07-24T02:40:54+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Can I ask why the highest diff is named "Pattern"?

Yes, because Moyou means Pattern
Vidro is something Idk, so I choose "Pattern"

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-07-24T03:33:43+00:00

sb checked, hitsounds fixed and warning on

looks good to me then, gl

Delis

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Delis 2017-07-25T03:34:06+00:00

Hello! I'm not an expert about storyboard but there are a few of obvious errors in the storyboard, let's see what we can do.

00:02:228 -

SPOILER

the letters are cut off, it seems the problem is pointed out already but not addressed? this still continues to the artist as well. (00:05:434 -)

00:22:838 - 00:29:250 - lyrics aren't fitting to the actual vocals properly. もっともらしい言葉だとか should be the appropriate lyrics for here, as you can see a contradiction at 00:37:495 -.

01:00:052 - the lyrics in the storyboard doesn't support the phrase properly. the lyrics must be one phrase as "雲の形突き抜ける" this currently is the one phrase being split which is strange. therefore the phrases being mixed at 01:03:831 - looks totally wrong, change the lyrics here with "想いの衝動描く" (く was missing from here) and "雲の形突き抜ける" for the lyrics at 01:00:052 -.

01:29:708 - is it intented that lyrics aren't fading out with the other SB elements here? I think it would be more cool to match up both together but it's up to you.

also one more thing, isn't the correct title in english "waiting in the summer"? there's literally no source for translated title officially but this seems more popular.
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the SB itself is quite cool but the mistakes I put above made it lame

once the things above are addressed, call plaudible back for a rebubble, you might wanna call me once for a final check too. best of luck!

P.S. vidro means glass in portugues, which isn't an unknown word. I'm just saying but I also do think the diffname isn't the best idea as the word "pattern" is kinda confusing with "pattern" in mapping lol xD.

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-07-25T05:00:23+00:00

thanks for the sb check o/ sorry about that
once you fix everything hoki check back in with delis then lets get back on track with ranking this

Hokichi

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Topic Starter

Hokichi 2017-07-25T05:04:01+00:00

Hi, I'll just place the lyrics source here so we can make everything easier to check

Delis wrote:
Hello! I'm not an expert about storyboard but there are a few of obvious errors in the storyboard, let's see what we can do.

00:02:228 -
SPOILER
the letters are cut off, it seems the problem is pointed out already but not addressed? this still continues to the artist as well. (00:05:434 -)

00:22:838 - 00:29:250 - lyrics aren't fitting to the actual vocals properly. もっともらしい言葉だとか should be the appropriate lyrics for here, as you can see a contradiction at 00:37:495 -.

01:00:052 - the lyrics in the storyboard doesn't support the phrase properly. the lyrics must be one phrase as "雲の形突き抜ける" this currently is the one phrase being split which is strange. therefore the phrases being mixed at 01:03:831 - looks totally wrong, change the lyrics here with "想いの衝動描く" (く was missing from here) and "雲の形突き抜ける" for the lyrics at 01:00:052 -. // I saw a space in the middle of the lyrics, so I split them up

01:29:708 - is it intented that lyrics aren't fading out with the other SB elements here? I think it would be more cool to match up both together but it's up to you. // I used a script in storybrew, so all lyrics are set to the same fading time. It was not intended, more automatic lol.

also one more thing, isn't the correct title in english "waiting in the summer"? there's literally no source for translated title officially but this seems more popular. // I found it here.
---
the SB itself is quite cool but the mistakes I put above made it lame once the things above are addressed, call plaudible back for a rebubble, you might wanna call me once for a final check too. best of luck!

P.S. vidro means glass in portugues, which isn't an unknown word. I'm just saying but I also do think the diffname isn't the best idea as the word "pattern" is kinda confusing with "pattern" in mapping lol xD. // I think I'll go with it cuz I like it xD

Delis

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Delis 2017-07-25T05:19:37+00:00

alright, the problems regarding the storyboard have been solved.

Edit: I've been checking stuff in the mapset and according to the ranking criteria the soft-sliderslide.wav and soft-sliderwhistle.wav should use the 44kb silent .wav file instead of files made by somebody not official? having double check would be nice.

Edit2: ok another thing, I was finding errors with the modding assistant and I found that it's telling me the truth. while some of them looked like mistakes, there're a plenty of sb files that aren't actually used. you can easily check it out by using a seach on the osb file since none of the osu files using the SB elements, I understood that you guys actually confused since the mapset contains a few of files that using the same name.

unused sb files that the modding assistant says

SB\BG\5.png
SB\cre\0042.png
SB\cre\006d.png
SB\cre\bm.png
SB\cre\sb.png
SB\cre\singer.png
SB\cre\title.png
SB\cre\glow\003a.png
SB\cre\glow\0042.png
SB\cre\glow\0048.png
SB\cre\glow\004d.png
SB\cre\glow\0053.png
SB\cre\glow\0061.png
SB\cre\glow\0062.png
SB\cre\glow\0063.png
SB\cre\glow\0064.png
SB\cre\glow\0065.png
SB\cre\glow\0068.png
SB\cre\glow\0069.png
SB\cre\glow\006b.png
SB\cre\glow\006d.png
SB\cre\glow\006f.png
SB\cre\glow\0070.png
SB\cre\glow\0072.png
SB\cre\glow\0073.png
SB\cre\glow\0074.png
SB\cre\glow\0079.png
SB\cre\glow\304e.png
SB\cre\glow\306a.png
SB\cre\glow\3084.png
SB\cre\glow\30c9.png
SB\cre\glow\30d3.png
SB\cre\glow\30ed.png
SB\cre\glow\30fc.png
SB\cre\glow\69d8.png
SB\cre\glow\6a21.png
SB\f\0030.png
SB\f\0031.png
SB\f\0032.png
SB\f\0033.png
SB\f\0034.png
SB\f\0035.png
SB\f\0036.png
SB\f\0037.png
SB\f\0038.png
SB\f\0039.png
SB\f\glow\3044.png
SB\f\glow\3046.png
SB\f\glow\3048.png
SB\f\glow\304b.png
SB\f\glow\304c.png
SB\f\glow\304d.png
SB\f\glow\304f.png
SB\f\glow\3051.png
SB\f\glow\3057.png
SB\f\glow\305f.png
SB\f\glow\3060.png
SB\f\glow\3063.png
SB\f\glow\3064.png
SB\f\glow\3065.png
SB\f\glow\3066.png
SB\f\glow\3067.png
SB\f\glow\3068.png
SB\f\glow\3069.png
SB\f\glow\306a.png
SB\f\glow\306b.png
SB\f\glow\306e.png
SB\f\glow\306f.png
SB\f\glow\3072.png
SB\f\glow\3073.png
SB\f\glow\307d.png
SB\f\glow\307f.png
SB\f\glow\3082.png
SB\f\glow\3088.png
SB\f\glow\3089.png
SB\f\glow\308a.png
SB\f\glow\308b.png
SB\f\glow\308c.png
SB\f\glow\308f.png
SB\f\glow\3092.png
SB\f\glow\4f55.png
SB\f\glow\51fa.png
SB\f\glow\52d5.png
SB\f\glow\5408.png
SB\f\glow\541b.png
SB\f\glow\56fa.png
SB\f\glow\590f.png
SB\f\glow\5915.png
SB\f\glow\597d.png
SB\f\glow\5ea6.png
SB\f\glow\5f62.png
SB\f\glow\601d.png
SB\f\glow\60f3.png
SB\f\glow\629c.png
SB\f\glow\63a2.png
SB\f\glow\63cf.png
SB\f\glow\67d3.png
SB\f\glow\6c17.png
SB\f\glow\6ce3.png
SB\f\glow\6f02.png
SB\f\glow\7406.png
SB\f\glow\7531.png
SB\f\glow\771f.png
SB\f\glow\7a81.png
SB\f\glow\7acb.png
SB\f\glow\7cf8.png
SB\f\glow\7d50.png
SB\f\glow\7e3a.png
SB\f\glow\8272.png
SB\f\glow\885d.png
SB\f\glow\89e6.png
SB\f\glow\8a00.png
SB\f\glow\8ab0.png
SB\f\glow\8de1.png
SB\f\glow\8e87.png
SB\f\glow\8e8a.png
SB\f\glow\8ecc.png
SB\f\glow\96f2.png
SB\f\glow\9999.png

SPOILER

Hokichi

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Topic Starter

Hokichi 2017-07-26T05:19:19+00:00

Delis wrote:

alright, the problems regarding the storyboard have been solved.

Edit: I've been checking stuff in the mapset and according to the ranking criteria the soft-sliderslide.wav and soft-sliderwhistle.wav should use the 44kb silent .wav file instead of files made by somebody not official? having double check would be nice.

Edit2: ok another thing, I was finding errors with the modding assistant and I found that it's telling me the truth. while some of them looked like mistakes, there're a plenty of sb files that aren't actually used. you can easily check it out by using a seach on the osb file since none of the osu files using the SB elements, I understood that you guys actually confused since the mapset contains a few of files that using the same name.

unused sb files that the modding assistant says

SB\BG\5.png
SB\cre\0042.png
SB\cre\006d.png
SB\cre\bm.png
SB\cre\sb.png
SB\cre\singer.png
SB\cre\title.png
SB\cre\glow\003a.png
SB\cre\glow\0042.png
SB\cre\glow\0048.png
SB\cre\glow\004d.png
SB\cre\glow\0053.png
SB\cre\glow\0061.png
SB\cre\glow\0062.png
SB\cre\glow\0063.png
SB\cre\glow\0064.png
SB\cre\glow\0065.png
SB\cre\glow\0068.png
SB\cre\glow\0069.png
SB\cre\glow\006b.png
SB\cre\glow\006d.png
SB\cre\glow\006f.png
SB\cre\glow\0070.png
SB\cre\glow\0072.png
SB\cre\glow\0073.png
SB\cre\glow\0074.png
SB\cre\glow\0079.png
SB\cre\glow\304e.png
SB\cre\glow\306a.png
SB\cre\glow\3084.png
SB\cre\glow\30c9.png
SB\cre\glow\30d3.png
SB\cre\glow\30ed.png
SB\cre\glow\30fc.png
SB\cre\glow\69d8.png
SB\cre\glow\6a21.png
SB\f\0030.png
SB\f\0031.png
SB\f\0032.png
SB\f\0033.png
SB\f\0034.png
SB\f\0035.png
SB\f\0036.png
SB\f\0037.png
SB\f\0038.png
SB\f\0039.png
SB\f\glow\3044.png
SB\f\glow\3046.png
SB\f\glow\3048.png
SB\f\glow\304b.png
SB\f\glow\304c.png
SB\f\glow\304d.png
SB\f\glow\304f.png
SB\f\glow\3051.png
SB\f\glow\3057.png
SB\f\glow\305f.png
SB\f\glow\3060.png
SB\f\glow\3063.png
SB\f\glow\3064.png
SB\f\glow\3065.png
SB\f\glow\3066.png
SB\f\glow\3067.png
SB\f\glow\3068.png
SB\f\glow\3069.png
SB\f\glow\306a.png
SB\f\glow\306b.png
SB\f\glow\306e.png
SB\f\glow\306f.png
SB\f\glow\3072.png
SB\f\glow\3073.png
SB\f\glow\307d.png
SB\f\glow\307f.png
SB\f\glow\3082.png
SB\f\glow\3088.png
SB\f\glow\3089.png
SB\f\glow\308a.png
SB\f\glow\308b.png
SB\f\glow\308c.png
SB\f\glow\308f.png
SB\f\glow\3092.png
SB\f\glow\4f55.png
SB\f\glow\51fa.png
SB\f\glow\52d5.png
SB\f\glow\5408.png
SB\f\glow\541b.png
SB\f\glow\56fa.png
SB\f\glow\590f.png
SB\f\glow\5915.png
SB\f\glow\597d.png
SB\f\glow\5ea6.png
SB\f\glow\5f62.png
SB\f\glow\601d.png
SB\f\glow\60f3.png
SB\f\glow\629c.png
SB\f\glow\63a2.png
SB\f\glow\63cf.png
SB\f\glow\67d3.png
SB\f\glow\6c17.png
SB\f\glow\6ce3.png
SB\f\glow\6f02.png
SB\f\glow\7406.png
SB\f\glow\7531.png
SB\f\glow\771f.png
SB\f\glow\7a81.png
SB\f\glow\7acb.png
SB\f\glow\7cf8.png
SB\f\glow\7d50.png
SB\f\glow\7e3a.png
SB\f\glow\8272.png
SB\f\glow\885d.png
SB\f\glow\89e6.png
SB\f\glow\8a00.png
SB\f\glow\8ab0.png
SB\f\glow\8de1.png
SB\f\glow\8e87.png
SB\f\glow\8e8a.png
SB\f\glow\8ecc.png
SB\f\glow\96f2.png
SB\f\glow\9999.png

SPOILER

1. I extend those hitsound to 100ms, so it's ok now I hope
2. I re-generate those files, hopefully no unused files now

Delis

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Delis 2017-07-26T08:35:27+00:00

Hokichi wrote:
1. I extend those hitsound to 100ms, so it's ok now I hope
2. I re-generate those files, hopefully no unused files now

unused files seemed to be deleted but I still don't get the reason why you chose the way to extend them instead of using the 44kb file instead even though I have just talked regarding ranking criteria. and the reason why the soft-sliderwhistle.wav is being silenced too since you just remove the whistle where's been used in the map then the file will be useless. I don't know where it is though.

and as the SB problems have been addressed now, I would rather like plaudible to handle this map from now on. by the way having no spinner in normal is absolutely not a good idea because the first person who took the first place with 4 mods will stick there forever: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/292056?m=0

Plaudible

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Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-07-28T06:19:28+00:00

got him the blank file to use instead of extending them, once he fixes hitsounding i think we should be set to go. regarding the spinner ordeal, i'm on the fence on it, since the song doesn't really have great spots to support a spinner being thrown in. yamicchi did it fine so it could be something you could implement, though, but in the end it's up to you @hoki. once you fix the hitsounding stuff call me back for a recheck and rebub~

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-08-07T13:45:18+00:00

you have no bubble, why did you ask me

add disclaimer in desc about the spoilers your SB contains (yes, it's about the pic at 01:15:052 - , taken from the anime) not a big spoiler, but still a spoiler

the song ends at 01:29:479 - , unless you find a way to merge that last guitar stroke with the rest of the map {all diffs}
Check some past versions like jonathanlfj's or Fumika's for confirmation

Linada:

00:02:342 (3) - can't hear the triplet in the song tbh. High-hats and kicks alternate every 1/2, so there are no audible 1/4s
00:02:686 (5,6,7,8) - having these on piano and then 00:03:602 (1,2) - on drums sounds so bad, zzz. It's like forcing two magnets to interact both with the same pole. Not to mention that forcing such a rhythm creates an awkward passage on piano again on 00:04:289 - , most likely due to the flow which is not expressing the song.
Possible fixes: 00:03:373 (8,1) - [url=osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784855]reduce the jump between these[/url], that way the piano takes over and there is proper emphasis; if you keep the previous screen, you could move 00:04:518 (3) - at x208 y304 (by using a stretched movement we sort of fix the missing emphasis on the previous slider tail and also fix the problem with 00:04:518 (3,4,5,6,1) - being un-expressive)
there is a lot I would like to say, but I feel like it would be ignored, so here's the raw suggestion without any reasoning (because I would really go deep otherwise): 00:05:205 (6) - to x396 y244 ; 00:08:869 (6) - x356 y224
I suggest this due to a peculiarity in the piano rhythm you ignored. You can ask me if you want the full explanation, but listening to 00:02:686 (5,6,7,8) - and 00:04:518 (3,4,5,6) - in the music should be enough to make you understand, hopefully
00:22:609 (2) - 00:26:273 (2) - I know they have a guitar beat on them, but they look like filler notes when all the patterns are either on drums or vocals
00:37:495 (3,4,5) - imo it would work better with a bigger jump between 3-4 and a smaller one between 4-5
00:45:510 (4,1) - what an awful emphasis on that slider. Also, the slider should be two clicks, if you listen to the drum. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784945 ?
it would also be cool if you kept a pattern for all: 00:45:510 (4,1) - 00:49:403 (1,2,3) - 00:53:067 (1,2,3) - . It just seems you went with whatever was fine atm instead of noticing the similarities in the song <.<
00:56:273 (3) - your hitsounds do not match your pattern here. A better option would be to remove 3 repeats from the slider and using a circle at 00:56:502 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784963 // 01:13:449 (1) - cousin
01:05:205 (5,6,7) - this feels overmapped compared to 01:07:495 (5,6,1) - . The reason for that is that the second one is on drums, the same as all the other patterns, while the first is simply that sort of... keyboard sound which plays as a background instrument
01:10:014 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - soft piano notes would make more sense with smaller spacing than the drum parts tbh
01:21:464 (1,2,1,2) - wut. How come these are grouped by 2 and extra large when they are the same intensity as the rest of the vocal parts?
01:29:021 (1,2,1) - look at Yamicchi's for a better rhythm. 01:29:021 - 01:29:250 - 01:29:479 - are the same beat, but you decided to mix things up (as in the rest of the map). That makes the map unclear to me and just a mean to entertain the player while discarding the song

Yamicchi:

00:04:289 (1,2,3,4) - these feel like... 1-3-1-3-2 (representing emphasis. 3 is highest emphasis). That's why it would feel better to put bigger jumps on 00:04:518 (2,4) - . Same goes for the other instances where this rhythm appears
00:50:548 (3,4) - bigger jump on 4 would fit better. Ideally, 3 can be stacked under the previous slider.
Just keep in mind the current flow on 00:50:548 (3,4,5,1) - is kinda meh due to the forced movement between 5-1 Random
00:52:838 - there is a background finish in the song here, so either remove the drum sample or just remove the entire note
01:20:548 (1) - what about dividing this slider into 01:20:548 - circle ; 01:21:006 - 1/2 slider?
01:29:479 (3) - just circle works better, if you delete 01:29:708 -

Hard:

00:06:121 (2,3,4) - Apart from the slight DS difference between 1-2-3. I would suggest a more natural flow like this
00:07:953 (1,2,3,1) - this is a surprisingly clean pattern considered the previous ones. While being this a praise, it is also a way to tell you that generally you could make the map look cleaner
00:13:678 (3) - wild soft whistle on slider body
00:19:403 (2,1) - forced movement I would rather avoid, but apart from that I would like it if you kept vocals over drums.
The passage at 00:18:258 (1,2,1) - is really awkward because you have been following vocals quite well so far, but decided to skip the one at 00:18:945 - . Skipping that is not a big deal by itself, but the choice to use vocals for 00:19:403 (2) - IS a problem, since you mix things up in an uncomfortable way imo.
00:18:258 (1) - remove repeat; 00:18:945 - 1/1 slider; 00:19:632 - 1/2 slider
00:43:449 (5,6) - clap goes on 6
I assume hitsounds were took by your diff on Yamicchi, which explains why 00:52:609 (3) - is the same. That grave drum sample doesn't fit with the song: either remove the beat or remove the drum sample
00:56:273 (3) - go with circles if you want the double clap. Having the first clap clickable while not the second one feels strange
00:59:479 (3) - what do you think of a slider till 00:59:479 (3) - ?
01:05:434 (4,5,1) - tiny detail, but this stuff happens a bit everywhere: when there is no reason to break it, why not keeping a constant DS...
01:14:136 (3) - the bigger jump should go on this, and not on 01:13:907 (2) - . See how 01:14:136 (3,4,5) - are a triplet of strong beats
01:22:380 (1) - finish on head?

Normal:

00:02:457 (2) - if you remove this beat you can make 00:03:602 (1) - start from 00:03:373 - where the piano note is instead (which would make more sense)
00:06:121 (2) - same // 00:09:785 (2) - cousin
00:11:846 - why is this skipped tho
00:30:166 (3) - this would work better extended till 00:30:853 - instead
00:43:449 (3,1) - clap goes on 1's head
01:10:014 (2) - whistle is enough on head
01:22:380 (1) - finish on head
01:26:044 (1,1) - when for no reason things start changing... Not sure why the second one has to be curved, but I guess that's anime mapping for you..
pretty sure you can make a spinner fit somewhere in the map

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Yamicchi

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Yamicchi 2017-08-07T14:38:26+00:00

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MrSergio wrote:
Yamicchi:
00:04:289 (1,2,3,4) - these feel like... 1-3-1-3-2 (representing emphasis. 3 is highest emphasis). That's why it would feel better to put bigger jumps on 00:04:518 (2,4) - . Same goes for the other instances where this rhythm appears I don't feel the same tbh. I'm just expressing the pitch using the spacing instead, because pitch is the easiest to be noticed while playing.
00:50:548 (3,4) - bigger jump on 4 would fit better. Ideally, 3 can be stacked under the previous slider.
Just keep in mind the current flow on 00:50:548 (3,4,5,1) - is kinda meh due to the forced movement between 5-1 fixed, but still not sure xd Random
00:52:838 - there is a background finish in the song here, so either remove the drum sample or just remove the entire note removed drum
01:20:548 (1) - what about dividing this slider into 01:20:548 - circle ; 01:21:006 - 1/2 slider? ok
01:29:479 (3) - just circle works better, if you delete 01:29:708 - hmm Idk I don't wanna delete that nor replacing the slider with a circle though

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Linada

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Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-08-07T15:05:46+00:00

holy moly

MrSergio wrote:
Linada:
00:02:342 (3) - can't hear the triplet in the song tbh. High-hats and kicks alternate every 1/2, so there are no audible 1/4s there is a kick on white tick and two 1/4 snaps on that weird instrument idk it's called
00:02:686 (5,6,7,8) - having these on piano and then 00:03:602 (1,2) - on drums sounds so bad, zzz. It's like forcing two magnets to interact both with the same pole. Not to mention that forcing such a rhythm creates an awkward passage on piano again on 00:04:289 - , most likely due to the flow which is not expressing the song.
Possible fixes: 00:03:373 (8,1) - [url=osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784855]reduce the jump between these[/url], that way the piano takes over and there is proper emphasis; if you keep the previous screen, you could move 00:04:518 (3) - at x208 y304 (by using a stretched movement we sort of fix the missing emphasis on the previous slider tail and also fix the problem with 00:04:518 (3,4,5,6,1) - being un-expressive) Fixed with your way but changed slider direction slightly
there is a lot I would like to say, but I feel like it would be ignored, so here's the raw suggestion without any reasoning (because I would really go deep otherwise): 00:05:205 (6) - to x396 y244 ; 00:08:869 (6) - x356 y224 hey that's cool
I suggest this due to a peculiarity in the piano rhythm you ignored. You can ask me if you want the full explanation, but listening to 00:02:686 (5,6,7,8) - and 00:04:518 (3,4,5,6) - in the music should be enough to make you understand, hopefully
00:22:609 (2) - 00:26:273 (2) - I know they have a guitar beat on them, but they look like filler notes when all the patterns are either on drums or vocals they're filler rhythm but with the hitsounding hokichi did, i really like the rhythm created with filler rhythm here on that section
00:37:495 (3,4,5) - imo it would work better with a bigger jump between 3-4 and a smaller one between 4-5 i think it emphasize the clap better as it
00:45:510 (4,1) - what an awful emphasis on that slider. Also, the slider should be two clicks, if you listen to the drum. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784945 ? ok
it would also be cool if you kept a pattern for all: 00:45:510 (4,1) - 00:49:403 (1,2,3) - 00:53:067 (1,2,3) - . It just seems you went with whatever was fine atm instead of noticing the similarities in the song <.<just kept same spacing for all, also changed 00:50:090 (1,2,3,4) - to make more contrast
00:56:273 (3) - your hitsounds do not match your pattern here. A better option would be to remove 3 repeats from the slider and using a circle at 00:56:502 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8784963 // 01:13:449 (1) - cousin i'd rather remove clap tbh, feel buzz+circle would be too much for what the intensity here imo
01:05:205 (5,6,7) - this feels overmapped compared to 01:07:495 (5,6,1) - . The reason for that is that the second one is on drums, the same as all the other patterns, while the first is simply that sort of... keyboard sound which plays as a background instrument i dunno, because even if it's different than other triples, it's still snapped and add some rhythm rather than just 1/2 spams, if you really want to i'll remove tho not that much of a big deal
01:10:014 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - soft piano notes would make more sense with smaller spacing than the drum parts tbh i kinda agree but here the piano is really dominant on that part, way more than drums
01:21:464 (1,2,1,2) - wut. How come these are grouped by 2 and extra large when they are the same intensity as the rest of the vocal parts? yeah that part was topkek i never found something to my liking. now it's better
01:29:021 (1,2,1) - look at Yamicchi's for a better rhythm. 01:29:021 - 01:29:250 - 01:29:479 - are the same beat, but you decided to mix things up (as in the rest of the map). That makes the map unclear to me and just a mean to entertain the player while discarding the song well, i just went to 1 rhythm then
the new ending may look a bit harder but considering it's bpm it's pretty easy to play, really play easily
z

thanks for the wall

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Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hokichi 2017-08-08T01:41:26+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
you have no bubble, why did you ask me // It was bubbled, and Plaudible said he can't re-rebub, so I was thinking about requesting a t2 BN to check it and make sure everything is ready, then I can ask him to rebub

add disclaimer in desc about the spoilers your SB contains (yes, it's about the pic at 01:15:052 - , taken from the anime) not a big spoiler, but still a spoiler Okay

the song ends at 01:29:479 - , unless you find a way to merge that last guitar stroke with the rest of the map {all diffs}
Check some past versions like jonathanlfj's or Fumika's for confirmation // All diffs have that spot mapped, so I guess it's not a problem

Hard:
00:06:121 (2,3,4) - Apart from the slight DS difference between 1-2-3. I would suggest a more natural flow like this // Agree, fixed
00:07:953 (1,2,3,1) - this is a surprisingly clean pattern considered the previous ones. While being this a praise, it is also a way to tell you that generally you could make the map look cleaner // Sure
00:13:678 (3) - wild soft whistle on slider body // Fixed
00:19:403 (2,1) - forced movement I would rather avoid, but apart from that I would like it if you kept vocals over drums.
The passage at 00:18:258 (1,2,1) - is really awkward because you have been following vocals quite well so far, but decided to skip the one at 00:18:945 - . Skipping that is not a big deal by itself, but the choice to use vocals for 00:19:403 (2) - IS a problem, since you mix things up in an uncomfortable way imo.
00:18:258 (1) - remove repeat; 00:18:945 - 1/1 slider; 00:19:632 - 1/2 slider // I did this instead, hopefully it's fixed
00:43:449 (5,6) - clap goes on 6 // Fixed
I assume hitsounds were took by your diff on Yamicchi, which explains why 00:52:609 (3) - is the same. That grave drum sample doesn't fit with the song: either remove the beat or remove the drum sample // Removing the drum beat sounds like a better idea
00:56:273 (3) - go with circles if you want the double clap. Having the first clap clickable while not the second one feels strange // Removed the second clap
00:59:479 (3) - what do you think of a slider till 00:59:479 (3) - ? // Till where?
01:05:434 (4,5,1) - tiny detail, but this stuff happens a bit everywhere: when there is no reason to break it, why not keeping a constant DS... // Changed
01:14:136 (3) - the bigger jump should go on this, and not on 01:13:907 (2) - . See how 01:14:136 (3,4,5) - are a triplet of strong beats // I extended the triangle
01:22:380 (1) - finish on head? // Sure
Normal:
00:02:457 (2) - if you remove this beat you can make 00:03:602 (1) - start from 00:03:373 - where the piano note is instead (which would make more sense)
00:06:121 (2) - same // 00:09:785 (2) - cousin // I followed Akitoshi's beat, so I think I'll keep it
00:11:846 - why is this skipped tho // Mapped
00:30:166 (3) - this would work better extended till 00:30:853 - instead // Fixed
00:43:449 (3,1) - clap goes on 1's head // Fixed
01:10:014 (2) - whistle is enough on head // Whistle followed the piano sounds, and I'm pretty sure I did it throughout the whole map, so I'll keep it that way
01:22:380 (1) - finish on head // Fixed
01:26:044 (1,1) - when for no reason things start changing... Not sure why the second one has to be curved, but I guess that's anime mapping for you.. // This is where I'm going to add a spinner instead
pretty sure you can make a spinner fit somewhere in the map
z // zz

Thanks for the check!

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-08-22T23:25:02+00:00

hey call me once u get a bubble, is that fine?

edit: I also dislike the top diff name lol, maybe try to change it?

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-08-24T18:58:35+00:00

ask to delis if he is fine with the map now, since he popped it

general

can u make the colors a bit more different

Linada's Glass Pattern

00:42:991 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - eh I really don't understand the structure of this pattern, can you make it more geometrical? atleast make 00:43:220 (1,3) - 00:43:449 (2,1) - have similar spacing visually
00:44:136 (2) - I don't agree with this, ending the slider on such important beat doesn't fit the song at all
01:28:219 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - also this is too much, and also a bit inconsistent, for example you don't have a 1/4 jump at 01:26:387 (4,5) - and the sound is basically the same as 01:28:219 (8,1) - just don't use the stream jump and also 01:29:021 (1,2,3,4) - the pressure points are 1 and 3, 2 and 4 are regular beats, so either make a 1/4 jumps or a normal stream

Yamicchi's Light Insane

the OD makes no sense tbh, just use 7

Hard

00:19:632 (3,1) - blanket is super off
00:20:090 (1,2,3) - spacing
00:34:289 (4,5) - the stack leniency ruins your spacing
00:41:388 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - eh you can rebuild this pattern better, like the overlaps and the objects being at the same place doesn't really fit the rest of the map
01:28:334 (2,5) - try to avoid the overlap
maybe try to make some clean up at this diff and also I'd nerf those star jumps, since the spread with the normal diff isn't that nice atm

Normal

OD 4
Just try to improve your blankets

if you fix the bolded things you can call me back once this gets rebubbled

Linada

993 posts

Joined November 2014

Linada 2017-08-24T19:54:06+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Linada's Glass Pattern

00:42:991 (3,1,2,3,1,2) - eh I really don't understand the structure of this pattern, can you make it more geometrical? atleast make 00:43:220 (1,3) - 00:43:449 (2,1) - have similar spacing visually fixed
00:44:136 (2) - I don't agree with this, ending the slider on such important beat doesn't fit the song at all Fixed but had to remove the buzz because it'll kill the playability pretty hard
01:28:219 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - also this is too much, and also a bit inconsistent, for example you don't have a 1/4 jump at 01:26:387 (4,5) - and the sound is basically the same as 01:28:219 (8,1) - just don't use the stream jump and also 01:29:021 (1,2,3,4) - the pressure points are 1 and 3, 2 and 4 are regular beats, so either make a 1/4 jumps or a normal stream fixed

all fixed ! also did some self-modding

@hokichi: i did put combo colors in my diff if you want to use them
also i think offset need -5 (1770) but i'm not entirely sure

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Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hokichi 2017-08-25T01:22:30+00:00

Natsu wrote:
ask to delis if he is fine with the map now, since he popped it

general

can u make the colors a bit more different // Sure, I'll use Linada's
Hard

00:19:632 (3,1) - blanket is super off // Fixed
00:20:090 (1,2,3) - spacing // Oops, sorry
00:34:289 (4,5) - the stack leniency ruins your spacing // Adjusted
00:41:388 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - eh you can rebuild this pattern better, like the overlaps and the objects being at the same place doesn't really fit the rest of the map // Hmm this can be hard
01:28:334 (2,5) - try to avoid the overlap // Okie
maybe try to make some clean up at this diff and also I'd nerf those star jumps, since the spread with the normal diff isn't that nice atm // I will remove some of the overlaps, but will keep some
Normal

OD 4
Just try to improve your blankets
if you fix the bolded things you can call me back once this gets rebubbled

Thanks for the mods

Delis

1,433 posts

Joined May 2012

Delis 2017-08-25T02:29:24+00:00

p/6156115
I already mentioned that my pop reason was solved there (the SB), then I just found additional unrankable elements but apparently these also have been fixed now, you can get a rebubble.

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-08-25T03:41:44+00:00

@Hoki change my Light Insane to OD7 please thanks

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-08-25T16:35:03+00:00

Everything addressed, looks like we're set for rebub

Natsu

8,074 posts