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Ultima Fox

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-05-29T02:03:51+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
NM from queue
Normal
00:51:308 (1) - remove NC for this maybe as you're doing an NC every 2 bars and NC this 00:52:952 (3) - fixed
01:06:925 (2,3) - In this non-kiai section you rarely placed objects 1/2 apart, unless there is something strong/significant going on in the music, but here the music is at a similar intensity with the rest of this section, so i don't think it's needed here gonna keep is how it is because its transitioning into the kiai section with how it is
On overall I think it's fine, but perhaps you can afford to buff the map as a whole to make the spread more even (and possibly nerfing hard a little too) by maybe mapping some of those 1/4 using reverses or something. it's kinda hard to not overdo it though cos the 1/4s are everywhere in this song so idk.. maybe make an advanced diff instead xd ya i def need to buff this or make an advanced diff

Serenity
00:05:281 (1) - just a minor suggestion, maybe you can ctrl+g this to have a sharper change in direction for emphasis on the downbeat I think its better to keep the flow there
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
00:09:802 (5,1,2) - i think for this part you can use a similar stream to 00:09:391 (1,2,3,4) - , so it would be something like an 8 note stream but in 2 sections like this https://puu.sh/w2yEM/df88e071e3.png (but make it look 10x nicer lol) I dont really hear a noise that would call for that kind of stream in between the stream and the triplet, so i dont think i want to change it
00:15:452 (2,3) - perhaps move these upwards slightly so that the slider-end of 1 will direct the player to 2 more smoothly, would look nicer too done
00:40:213 (2,3,1) - don't think the music calls for such a large spacing, especially since it drops in intensity from before decreased spacing
00:44:322 (5,1,2,3,4) - i think a rhythm like this would fit here better https://puu.sh/w2zey/b0aa557d81.png ill keep what i have now since the next one addresses the (3)(4)
00:45:041 (3,4) - i think you can use a higher spacing for this, since the music kinda justifies it done
00:50:897 (5,6,1,2,3) - similarly, a rhythm like this fits better imo https://puu.sh/w2znX/d1c8b0095b.png I think i see what you mean,
and if someone else mentions it all add it but for right now i think its fine
00:54:185 (4) - maybe you can use a 1/4 slider here instead I dont hear a sound on the blue tick to justify that
01:01:377 (2,3,4) - maybe stack these 3 as there isn't anything worth emphasizing in the music There isnt really anything to emphasize per say in the music, however i feel like in a normal section of the song like this part its good to keep movement rather than having abrupt stops (unless its for like 1/6 streams or something)
01:04:665 (2,3,4) - in a similar vein, personally i wouldn't stack these 3 fixed
01:15:350 (1,2,3) - ^ fixed
01:18:843 (4,5,1) - 4 -> 5 has a larger spacing than 5 -> 1 but it should be the other way around i think due to the downbeat on 1 fixed
01:25:829 (1,1,1,1) - maybe you can decrease sv gradually for these 4 since they're nc-ed I dont really see a point to that, I think its just fine as it is
01:30:350 (3,4,1) - similarly, maybe make 4->1 more spaced than 3->4 since there's a downbeat on 1 fixed
01:38:774 - personally i think this pause is a bit weird, there's still percussion going on fixed
01:40:213 (3,4,1) - 4 -> 1 should be more spaced than 3->4 did my best to fix

that's all from me, good luck with your mapset

Thanks a ton!~

Nyukai

2,415 posts

Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2017-06-01T10:12:19+00:00

General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here.
I think you are missing gders' names in tags
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff.

Hobbes2's Insane:

01:35:692 (1) - Was hard to notice there's a repeat there. Try to move the slider a bit up, or curve it instead.

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think.

I liked the mapset, good luck~

-LynX-

131 posts

Joined December 2013

-LynX- 2017-06-02T08:09:34+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?

what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-03T23:14:10+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Ultima Fox wrote:
00:07:541 (1,1) - personally wouldn't NC these Do you mean the short sliders or all parts of this section?
what i meant was these 2 1/4 sliders specifically 00:07:541 (1,1) - ; don't really see the need to NC those

ok cool

Nyukai wrote:
General:

00:00:350 - The notes here until 00:06:514 - sound really high for me, since the music is not really the same and all I can hear at the beginning is just noise. Consider reducing the volume here. Fixed
I think you are missing gders' names in tags Fixed
The spread seems to be a bit unbalanced, at least between Normal and Hard. I would make Hard easier or just consider adding an Advanced diff. I will most likely add advanced

Serenity:

00:01:581 (3) - The end of this slider seems to be a bit unsapped, I think. fixed
I liked the mapset, good luck~

Thanks a ton!~

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-06-12T06:10:53+00:00

wow, awesome map

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-14T02:59:04+00:00

aigoh wrote:
wow, awesome map

thanks!

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-06-14T03:41:05+00:00

-LynX- wrote:
Plaudible's Hard
00:06:103 (4,5) - i personally wouldn't map the hi-hat (is it even the hi-hat lol) since you ignored it earlier, and i think it'd be quite hard to hit for newer players. perhaps you should just follow the drums and use this pattern 00:06:514 (6,7) - here instead. even though i do earlier, the song starts to transition here and the odd cymbal sound is something i feel that needs to be emphasized.
00:13:089 (4,1) - maybe instead of stacking them you can just do a partial overlap, personal preference wanted to make this one stand out a bit with a stack
00:14:733 (5,4) - stacking them would make it nicer sure
00:26:137 - mapping this sound would be cool i think bit more of a slow part here, i want small jumps but adding a triple would make this feel pretty dense imo
00:26:651 (1,2) - imo an extended slider isn't really necessary, a 1/2 slider will do just fine did this in the beginning of each section, it's how i wanted to shift from the chorus to slower part or into the repeat of the section in the next example
00:39:391 (7,8) - the spacing here seems a bit too low, maybe move 8 close to where 00:38:158 (1) - is that creates a huge diffspike and makes the SR go up in the worst spot possible, but instead i moved it to the other side, flow's a bit weirder but emphasis is stronger that way.
00:52:541 (7,2) - the overlap seems a bit out of place, here's what i suggest https://puu.sh/w1OQb/24ff947192.png
01:41:856 (5) - an extended slider could work here, this is fine as it is though i did before, but having 2 1/4 snappings this late in the song felt uncomfortable
01:43:089 (5,1) - maybe space these slightlyyy further it's fine
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - how you linked these back to the beginning is quite cool i think tyty

thanks for the mod!! <3 did a few changes on my own since this is a bit dated in terms of how i map

upd

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Ultima Fox

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Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-06-23T01:42:40+00:00

updated plaudible's diff, added most of the sb and added advanced diff

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-12T15:48:01+00:00

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[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav?
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs.
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times.

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement?

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain.
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead.
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow.
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap?
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this?

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3?
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though.
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent?
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better?
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2.
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones.
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point.

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-12T19:01:13+00:00

Mir wrote:
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sam e

[General]
- Possible unrankable delay on soft-hitfinish.wav? Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound
- Lots of unused sb files but it says WIP so idk what to think O it is done, so yeahj deleted wip sb.osb, ink7.png, and Lights.png
- 00:00:350 - Sampleset conflict on timing lines for all diffs. I dont really see what you mean, all of them are uninherited on top of inherited which is rankable?
- For the sb, curious as to why there isn't a third drop in the pond at 00:49:665 - 01:02:815 - since the drop sound plays three times. Personally, I don't hear a third drop on the downbeat but ill probably ask people for their opinion on it

[Normal]
- 00:36:514 (1,2) - Flow is suddenly quite harsh, I can't hear anything that would warrant this change in flow so maybe consider making it less harsh? Maybe something with this kind of movement? I fixed the flow, but instead of using angles i used straight sliders

Fine.

[Advanced]
- 00:18:432 (1) - So close to offscreen you might as well move it up a bit so MA doesn't complain. Fixed
- 00:25:007 (1) - Spinner recovery time is too short. Aim for at least two beats of recovery on a Normal-esque difficulty. Since it might be hard to accomplish that, I recommend a slider instead. Fixed
- 00:30:760 (2) - Flipping this might make for more intuitive visual flow. Fixed
- 00:41:034 (3,1) - Could center this overlap? Fixed
- 00:53:774 (2,3) - Blanket on 2's tail is off. Try to make it look like this? Fixed

Rest looks okay, but get some more mods on this since you recently added it.

[Serenity]
- 00:06:308 - This has quite a noticeable sound that could be mapped. Pretty minor though. Yeah I think it would be better mapped as is
- 01:14:219 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Isn't following the same NC patterning as 00:18:329 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - perhaps you should make it consistent? Fixed
- 01:18:637 (3) - I don't actually think there's 1/6 here... maybe replacing it with something else would fit the music better? Replaced with a 1/4 slider
- 01:18:021 (3) - Clearly offscreen. Also blanket better with 2. Moved onscreen and fixed blanket
- 01:21:925 (2) - I don't really get why this very strong 1/6 quad is mapped with a reverse when weaker ones before like 00:32:610 (2,3,4,5) - were mapped with circles. In fact it might make more sense to make the weaker ones 1/6 sliders and the stronger ones circles just to differentiate their strength with harsher tapping. So things you'd make reverses are the one I mentioned and 00:50:281 (1,2,3,4) - (which isn't consistent with 00:43:706 (3) - might I add) and stuff you'd make circles is stuff like 01:21:925 (2). This is just what I think, since a lot of your quads seem a bit out of place in such calm sections and some of the reverses you use cover a lot of stronger quads that don't get as much emphasis as the weaker ones. I agree, so I made the weaker 1/6 sections into repeated sliders, as well as making the 1/6 section in the kiai into circles to fix the emphasis and make it more consistent
- 01:29:014 (1,2) - I feel like this doesn't have enough emphasis compared to 01:28:603 (1,2) - even though 01:28:603 (1,2) - is a lot weaker than 01:29:014 (1,2) - . It might also do well to change the NC patterning a bit so you get the NC on the downbeat but that's a minor point. i see what you mean, i made minor changes to make the emphasis make a little more sense, but I feel like the linear angle from 2-1-2 for the last part also adds its own emphasis, but thats just imo

I'd like to see a bit more consistency in the topdiff and some more mods on Advanced. Call me back when you gather 2-3 mods on Advanced and reply to the bolded concerns.

Thanks a ton!~ Ill get a couple more mods on advanced, and call you back when all mods are responded to

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-07-12T19:03:46+00:00

Ultima Fox wrote:
Looking at the wav file in audacity, it looks like the .5 second ish delay comes from a slightly quieter section before https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png , whether or not this is correct I dont know, but there is no silence before the actual hitsound.

It's probably fine then, as long as it isn't silence. The hitsound just peaks slightly later then.

aigoh

398 posts

Joined February 2014

aigoh 2017-07-13T04:57:48+00:00

Hi Fox! Surprise mod!!

Advanced

00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments.
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know.
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141?
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough.

good luck c:

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-07-18T01:14:03+00:00

aigoh wrote:
Hi Fox! Surprise mod!! aa!

Advanced
00:24:596 (3,1) –with all combos all reset, Aimod shows DS is off. I think you should get rid of this SV change tbh, like you did in 01:34:048 – and on the same section on Serenity diff. Compared to 01:07:747 – too, the music is more lively due to more instruments. I think the sv change fits, and the only reason i didnt change it at 01:34:048 – is because the intensity of the drums in the song
00:42:678 (1) – DS is 1.5x to the next slider. I’m annoying, I know. fixed
00:46:377 (1,2,1) – these don’t look that equal distance, so move 00:47:610 (2) – to somewhere like 18,141? fixed
00:54:391 (3,1) –stack? And blanket 00:53:774 (2,3) - try it with slider head reversed fixed
01:01:171 (1) –touches HP bar. Everything else is fine with default skin and 800x600 screen fixed
00:32:404 (2,1) - 01:05:281 (2,1) - 01:36:925 (2,1) - blankets are a little off fixed (except the last one wasnt really meant to blanket)
01:34:048 (1,2,3) – hitsound doesn’t seem effective enough. Not much I can do to fix this because of the limits of the difficulty

good luck c:

thanks a ton!~

Plaudible

1,028 posts

Joined September 2015

Plaudible 2017-07-18T01:35:50+00:00

Mir wrote:
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[Plaudibubble's Hard]
- 01:21:925 (3,4) - Tbh I feel like 4 is stronger than 3 since it has a snare on it and is on a white tick. Maybe emphasize 4 more instead of 3? realized i undermapped a triple so it's a triple now if that's an ok fix
- 01:34:870 (3,4,5,6,1) - A lot of 1/4 here. I don't know if this is a good idea, but you can probably nerf it to a triple + 1/4 slider and space 01:35:486 (2) - less far away. I don't think it's.. that big a deal, but it just seems like a lot of 1/4 xD nerf

hurr durr do dogs wurr punts

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Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Foxy Grandpa 2017-08-07T22:46:48+00:00

aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[advancd]

00:34:870 (1) - This could be kinda confusing since the flow is going the other way the slider body is going
00:38:980 (2) - I feel like instead of the repeating 1/2 slider you could have 2 of them here to emphasize the strings in the background going
00:42:678 (1) - Remove the nc to put more emphasis on the seciton change on 00:43:089 - ?
00:55:829 (1) - Same as above
01:29:117 (1,1) - overlap?

ok ur good 2 go

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-08T03:58:05+00:00

FoxyGrandpa wrote:
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[advancd]
00:34:870 (1) - This could be kinda confusing since the flow is going the other way the slider body is going Fixed
00:38:980 (2) - I feel like instead of the repeating 1/2 slider you could have 2 of them here to emphasize the strings in the background going Fixed
00:42:678 (1) - Remove the nc to put more emphasis on the seciton change on 00:43:089 - ? Fixed
00:55:829 (1) - Same as above Fixed
01:29:117 (1,1) - overlap? but ds aa
ok ur good 2 go

thanks!!1!

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-08-15T05:22:21+00:00

chose to fix the second point, thanks for the mod

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0,0,"Pixiv.Id.4041406.full.1005536.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Ultima Fox

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Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T14:58:05+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:

chose to fix the second point, thanks for the mod

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osu file format v14

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updated and calling mir back

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-15T19:21:09+00:00

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[General]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
sb\wip sb.osb
sb\ink7.png
sb\Lights.png

Other sb stuff:
wallhaven-213468.png can be converted to jpg to save lots of filespace atm it's 3.4 megs wew

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav

Possibly off-screen objects:
00:18:432 (1) - Advanced diff

Green lines:
00:00:350 - (volume level) (custom set number) all diffs

Other hitsound stuff:
Why does soft-hitwhistle go on for SO long, can't you cut it down to like 2.5 seconds or something

Difficulty settings:
Normal HP is a bit high and Advanced to Hard is a bit too close, try 3>4>5 might work nicer.
Bring down the OD on Advanced cuz it's the same as the Hard and thats kinda ??
Increase the topdiff OD cuz it's the same as the Insane lol

[Serendipity]
- 01:04:459 (1,2,3,4) - Can you align this better?
- 01:28:603 (1,2,1,2) - This emphasis is still bleh because 01:29:014 (1,2) - is way stronger but is dwarfed when compared to the emphasis put on 01:28:603 (1,2) - :/
[Hobbes' Insane]
- 00:14:733 (5,6) - 00:15:452 (2,3) - Can you not have your 1/2 and 1/4 spaced exactly the same. :/

Call me after all the stuff is fixed.

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T20:19:44+00:00

Mir wrote:
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[General]
Duplicated (unused) storyboard file(s):
sb\wip sb.osb
sb\ink7.png
sb\Lights.png On my end, those are deleted and ive updated a few times since i deleted them so im not sure what the issue is.

Other sb stuff:
wallhaven-213468.png can be converted to jpg to save lots of filespace atm it's 3.4 megs wew converted to jpg

Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
soft-hitfinish.wav we talked about it with the later peak ( https://puu.sh/wHShA/e811dd87b0.png )

Possibly off-screen objects:
00:18:432 (1) - Advanced diff Moved more on screen

Green lines:
00:00:350 - (volume level) (custom set number) all diffs fixed

Other hitsound stuff:
Why does soft-hitwhistle go on for SO long, can't you cut it down to like 2.5 seconds or something considering how spaced out the hitwhistles are, I feel like thats not a problem because they do not overlap

Difficulty settings:
Normal HP is a bit high and Advanced to Hard is a bit too close, try 3>4>5 might work nicer.
Bring down the OD on Advanced cuz it's the same as the Hard and thats kinda ??
Increase the topdiff OD cuz it's the same as the Insane lol fixed all

[Serendipity]
- 01:04:459 (1,2,3,4) - Can you align this better? changed it to something i like a little better
- 01:28:603 (1,2,1,2) - This emphasis is still bleh because 01:29:014 (1,2) - is way stronger but is dwarfed when compared to the emphasis put on 01:28:603 (1,2) - :/ fixed
[Hobbes' Insane]
- 00:14:733 (5,6) - 00:15:452 (2,3) - Can you not have your 1/2 and 1/4 spaced exactly the same. :/

Call me after all the stuff is fixed.

aasdf

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-08-15T20:37:14+00:00

wat, they're not spaced the same lol, its a pretty obvious difference

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,151 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 2017-08-15T20:55:11+00:00

ok hobbes gosh don't be so r00d

Metadata: http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/psp/musiclist/

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22:43 Mir: 00:00:350 - fix timing line settings
22:43 Mir: all diffs

22:43 Mir: also metadata where
22:44 Ultima Fox: i thot i made them all consistent
22:44 Ultima Fox: did i miss one
22:44 Mir: still isn't fixed o.o
22:45 Ultima Fox: `all of them should be sc2 39%
22:45 Ultima Fox: your talking about the green line right?
22:46 Mir: the problem is http://i.imgur.com/YyCh9VB.png
22:46 Mir: the red and green lines are different settings
22:46 Mir: you have to make them the same cuz they're in the same place
22:47 Ultima Fox: i see
22:47 Ultima Fox: okay
22:47 Ultima Fox: also metadata
22:47 Ultima Fox: http://popnmusic.wikia.com/wiki/Greening
22:47 Mir: do you have anything more official
22:48 Ultima Fox: i can try to find something more official
22:49 Ultima Fox: but thats what ive used
22:51 Ultima Fox: http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/psp/musiclist/
22:51 Mir: well done
22:51 Mir: this'll do
22:51 Ultima Fox: okay cool
22:51 Ultima Fox: im just changing the timing points atm
22:51 Ultima Fox: then i think im good to go
22:53 Mir: ok

Looks good! Bubbled.

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2017-08-15T20:59:59+00:00

thanks murr

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-15T21:01:30+00:00

thanks!!1!1

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Nao Tomori 2017-08-15T21:07:23+00:00

toxibbes2 smh

Plaudible

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Plaudible 2017-08-15T21:14:54+00:00

hobbes flames me every day hes toxic

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-08-16T22:48:10+00:00

you need someone to qual?

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-16T23:58:30+00:00

i posted in natsu's queue today, but if you want to qualify than yeah it'd make it a lot easier

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Natsu 2017-08-17T00:08:46+00:00

o:, yeah u can qualify it!~

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Seijiro 2017-08-17T21:27:09+00:00

serenity:
- 01:32:610 (2,2) - it would make a better impression if you use just circles here, that way 01:34:048 (1,2,1,2) - this part makes more sense to be in sliders
- speaking of which, 01:35:076 (3,4,5) - this would have been cool as 1/6 again, but heh... I guess it was a personal choice. It just feels off that you did it elsewhere and not here

Hobbes:
- 00:04:254 (4) - I believe you can make that emphasis better by making the white tick clickable instead. I did check the whole map and this seems to be the only instance of such a rhythm choice
- 00:47:815 (5,1) - ~~also pretty sure this ugly pattern appears just once too in the whole map. x233 y217?~~ ok, no 01:00:966 (5,1) - , but still ugly.
- 01:33:432 (4,5,6) - pretty sure the rhythm increase should happen after this pattern, not from this pattern. At least the song does it that way on drums, so the 1/2 clicks should be kept here too

Plaudible:
- unused and unsilenced slider tails tilt me a bit in general: 00:13:089 (4) - 00:55:829 (2) -
- 01:20:897 (1) - what happened with comboing here, lol
- 01:28:706 (1) - this NC too can be avoided imo, otherwise you should have added way more in the whole map for sure, using that reasoning
- 01:35:281 (1) - why not moving NC on the previous slider instead, would make a bit more sense to me, instead of funky comboing
- 01:47:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - these could have used a slower SV at least, to match the song's pace in the outro

Considering some flashes in the SB, it would be better to enable epilepsy warning just in case

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-18T22:32:21+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
serenity:
- 01:32:610 (2,2) - it would make a better impression if you use just circles here, that way 01:34:048 (1,2,1,2) - this part makes more sense to be in sliders Fixed
- speaking of which, 01:35:076 (3,4,5) - this would have been cool as 1/6 again, but heh... I guess it was a personal choice. It just feels off that you did it elsewhere and not here Yeah, but I think it's fine as it as though

Considering some flashes in the SB, it would be better to enable epilepsy warning just in case Done

thanks!

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Plaudible 2017-08-19T08:07:30+00:00

fixed all but last, im comparing the intensity of the intro/ending, and how i mapped both. 1.00x sv on the intro ---> 1.00x sv on ending fits

also i suck at nc's wew
ty serg <3

http://puu.sh/xdWzh/cb77bf34bc.osu

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Izzywing 2017-08-19T20:37:11+00:00

- 00:04:254 (4) - I believe you can make that emphasis better by making the white tick clickable instead. I did check the whole map and this seems to be the only instance of such a rhythm choice Disagree, I think following the piano here is better.
- 00:47:815 (5,1) - also pretty sure this ugly pattern appears just once too in the whole map. x233 y217? ok, no 01:00:966 (5,1) - , but still ugly. its not ugly
- 01:33:432 (4,5,6) - pretty sure the rhythm increase should happen after this pattern, not from this pattern. At least the song does it that way on drums, so the 1/2 clicks should be kept here too There aren't a lot of streams in this map so I thought mapping the 1/4 here with kicksliders would kinda prepare the player for the stream incoming. i can change this if its really a problem, but how would you suggest I do so? keep doing 1/2?

edit - re: the piano thing i do similar here 01:40:623 (1,2,3) -

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-19T22:23:45+00:00

updated

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Seijiro 2017-08-20T15:50:06+00:00

good job Plaudible, feel responsible for delaying this :^)

Hobbes, not sure how following a barely audible instrument over a more powerful one makes sense but alright... 01:40:623 - this is a bit different, since the song is calm and we can hear the piano better, unlike the first one.
Just to make my point clear: the fact you used 00:03:637 (1,2,3) - and 00:04:665 (5,6,7) - around that objects makes it look like that... what are those? Bongo? are the main instrument. The next and previous combos are proof of this 00:05:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
And yes, 1/2 for that last point, as the top diff did

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-20T15:53:10+00:00

fixed the metadata on plaudibles diff lmao

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Naxess 2017-08-20T17:32:07+00:00

so the transparency around the sb elements
is not ok according to the ranking criteria

Ranking Criteria - Storyboarding wrote:
There must not be any unnecessary transparency around storyboarded images, so crop and resize them as much as possible. If there are particular reasons for apparently useless transparency, then please explain them.

Basically cut your elements to where there isn't any unnecessary transparency around them. At the moment there's some around the letter sprites as well as basically all other transparent sprites, for example. If you're going to be rotating sprites with transparency, consider leaving a 1 px border of transparency around them, as anti-aliasing won't apply otherwise and the edges will look aliased. So this would apply to your leaf sprite, for instance.

Unrelated to that, you can also convert some of your non-transparent images to .jpg to take up less space, for example xgbflare.png or even black.png and white.png.

idk if the bubble still applies so popping just to be safe, as this will need a rebubble due to the unrankable thing
pretty cool sb tho, been a while since I've seen those branch effects and brush strokes

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-08-20T18:49:17+00:00

where is Hobbes' reply too? :<

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Mir 2017-08-20T18:50:18+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
where is Hobbes' reply too? :<

In 10 hours. :3c

Fix the sb stuff then call me back.

Ultima Fox

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Ultima Fox 2017-08-20T19:13:25+00:00

double bubble pop lmao

fixed all transparent sb elements (letters, hanging leaves, ink, and silhouettes) to remove unneeded transparency and adjusted sb to accomodate
also converted xgbflare to a jpg to save more space

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