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2017-07-22 18:23 Fursum: hello
2017-07-22 18:26 Celektus: hi
2017-07-22 18:26 Celektus: hitsounds?
2017-07-22 18:26 Fursum: i was going to ask for a quick check xd
2017-07-22 18:27 Celektus: oh ok
2017-07-22 18:27 Celektus: sure
2017-07-22 18:27 Fursum: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1355098 AK & Veela - Digital Angel]
2017-07-22 18:28 Celektus: you want forums or irc?
2017-07-22 18:29 Fursum: well, its just a quick check so
2017-07-22 18:29 Fursum: irc would be better
2017-07-22 18:31 Celektus: your blankets are intentionally not perfect right? just mentioning it anyway
2017-07-22 18:31 Fursum: hmm
2017-07-22 18:31 Fursum: not really
2017-07-22 18:32 Fursum: which blankets are you talking about
2017-07-22 18:32 Celektus: lemme send you a pic
2017-07-22 18:32 Fursum: slider to sliders?
2017-07-22 18:32 Celektus: yes
2017-07-22 18:33 Celektus: that's off at least by my metric https://puu.sh/wQgkL.png
2017-07-22 18:33 Celektus: well and some like this 00:29:775 (3,4) -
2017-07-22 18:34 Fursum: oh
2017-07-22 18:34 Fursum: i recently changed them so its probably my bad
2017-07-22 18:34 Celektus: I think that could be misread as 2/1 00:39:196 (5,1) -
2017-07-22 18:34 Celektus: maybe make it a slider or different visually
2017-07-22 18:35 Celektus: yea blankets 00:41:676 (3,4) -
2017-07-22 18:35 Celektus: let's just say I pointed out that some of them are conventionally of and move on
2017-07-22 18:35 Fursum: alright
2017-07-22 18:36 Celektus: I think it's a bit hard to have the first 1/2 gap in the map be here 00:42:668 (4,1) -
2017-07-22 18:36 Celektus: you could use them earlier maybe to make this less inexspected
2017-07-22 18:36 Fursum: hmm
2017-07-22 18:37 Fursum: i think it makes sense because of the first vocal note
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: same fist jump in the map 00:44:651 (3,4) -
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: it makes sense somewhat
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: but I would still say that you could introduce it earlier
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: the jump I guess gets justified
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: by 00:39:196 (5,1) -
2017-07-22 18:37 Celektus: tho you could make that more consistent early on
2017-07-22 18:38 Fursum: 00:35:725 (1) - theres the jump
2017-07-22 18:38 Fursum: 00:31:758 (1) - here too
2017-07-22 18:38 Celektus: yea ok that's fine then
2017-07-22 18:38 Celektus: why a jump into 4 tho? 00:44:899 (4) -
2017-07-22 18:39 Celektus: 3 is actually stronger with the piano note supporting it
2017-07-22 18:40 Fursum: good point
2017-07-22 18:40 Fursum: ill just put 3 in a triangle shape
2017-07-22 18:40 Fursum: of slider heads
2017-07-22 18:40 Celektus: also why are some vocals on slider ends? 00:46:882 (9) - like most sliders so far had strong sounds on only their head while the end was filler
2017-07-22 18:41 Fursum: i think it was an attempt to reduce density
2017-07-22 18:42 Celektus: it's a bit inconsistent with sliders like this tho 00:49:114 (6) -
2017-07-22 18:42 Celektus: it's kinda fine but more consistency in some way would be better I think
2017-07-22 18:43 Fursum: yeah you are right
2017-07-22 18:43 Celektus: also can you double the NC amount in this part?
2017-07-22 18:43 Celektus: like every big white tick
2017-07-22 18:44 Fursum: then the comboes would be too short idk
2017-07-22 18:44 Fursum: not sure about the combo lenghts on lower diffs
2017-07-22 18:44 Celektus: I just don't like 10s maybe
2017-07-22 18:44 Celektus: taste I guess
2017-07-22 18:45 Fursum: also the patterns wont support a nc imo
2017-07-22 18:45 Celektus: yea sure
2017-07-22 18:45 Celektus: why is this all symmetrical? 00:46:882 (9,10,1,2,3,4,5) - is there a reason for it?
2017-07-22 18:46 Fursum: o i already remapped 9-10
2017-07-22 18:46 Celektus: oh ok
2017-07-22 18:47 Celektus: It kinda confuses me that the repeat doesn't start on the Vocal even if it makes more sense in terms of tick structure 00:53:329 (6,7) -
2017-07-22 18:49 Fursum: its the same thing as the other slider
2017-07-22 18:49 Fursum: trying to reduce density :d
2017-07-22 18:49 Celektus: do you think tilting this by 5° would be good? 01:00:519 (3) -
2017-07-22 18:50 Fursum: but it would kinda break the concept
2017-07-22 18:50 Celektus: ok
2017-07-22 18:50 Celektus: are you still trying to undemap in that section btw?
2017-07-22 18:51 Celektus: oh now I'm seeing the concept
2017-07-22 18:51 Celektus: nice
2017-07-22 18:51 Fursum: :p
2017-07-22 18:52 Celektus: so still undermapping?
2017-07-22 18:53 Fursum: not really
2017-07-22 18:53 Celektus: cause I think you could map stuff like this Kick here 01:01:511 -
2017-07-22 18:53 Celektus: like clicked
2017-07-22 18:53 Fursum: ah yeah i thought about that
2017-07-22 18:53 Celektus: or this vocal 01:02:750 -
2017-07-22 18:53 Celektus: even if it breaks symmetry
2017-07-22 18:53 Fursum: but someone said slider rythm should have more variety like red tick sliders
2017-07-22 18:54 Celektus: well only if it actually follows the song lol
2017-07-22 18:54 Fursum: i focused more on kicks on the next section
2017-07-22 18:54 Celektus: like this prioritizes the vocal over the kick
2017-07-22 18:55 Fursum: well, actually there are no vocals in the next section xd
2017-07-22 18:55 Celektus: yea
2017-07-22 18:55 Celektus: Vocal on slider end while the head is weaker 01:03:246 -
2017-07-22 18:55 Fursum: hmm, now that i think about the last link you sent
2017-07-22 18:55 Fursum: i put them to emphasize the bass change
2017-07-22 18:57 Fursum: so its basically change the structure every bass sentence
2017-07-22 18:57 Fursum: but looks like i executed it a bit poorly
2017-07-22 18:57 Celektus: yea you can express that differently I think
2017-07-22 18:58 Celektus: I think a circle and 1/2 slider afterwards would emphasize the vocal here better 01:08:453 (3) -
2017-07-22 18:59 Celektus: since only the 1st and 2nd ticks are Vocals
2017-07-22 19:00 Fursum: its kinda cramped but i did something
2017-07-22 19:00 Celektus: so this stack... 01:13:907 (6,7) - it's the first 1/2 stack in the map and could easily be misread I think
2017-07-22 19:01 Celektus: you have no 1/1 stacks so it's not that big of a problem, but it kinda is inconsistent
2017-07-22 19:01 Fursum: 01:05:973 (7,8) - first one :p
2017-07-22 19:01 Celektus: oh
2017-07-22 19:01 Celektus: well still pretty late
2017-07-22 19:01 Fursum: i think thats the first red tick kick
2017-07-22 19:01 Celektus: but thx
2017-07-22 19:02 Celektus: 01:03:990 (2,3) -
2017-07-22 19:02 Fursum: yeah its the first red tick kick
2017-07-22 19:02 Celektus: 01:05:973 (7,8) -
2017-07-22 19:02 Celektus: oh red tick kick
2017-07-22 19:02 Celektus: well maybe don't stack them but just overlap 'em
2017-07-22 19:02 Celektus: not sure
2017-07-22 19:02 Fursum: id rather not
2017-07-22 19:02 Fursum: doesnt fit well with the rest of the map
2017-07-22 19:03 Celektus: well I think spacing it out would fit more than stacking it
2017-07-22 19:03 Celektus: like that doesn't really fit with the intro
2017-07-22 19:03 Celektus: could be 2 circles 01:19:362 (1) -
2017-07-22 19:04 Fursum: hmm
2017-07-22 19:04 Celektus: shouldn't this be straight? 01:26:304 (8) -
2017-07-22 19:04 Celektus: cause Snare
2017-07-22 19:04 Fursum: i havent used circles on first kicks
2017-07-22 19:05 Fursum: 01:24:320 (4) - i broke that here
2017-07-22 19:05 Celektus: it's supposed to be for Vocals
2017-07-22 19:05 Fursum: yeah
2017-07-22 19:05 Celektus: ok
2017-07-22 19:05 Celektus: mb
2017-07-22 19:05 Fursum: i wanted to highlight digital angel xd
2017-07-22 19:05 Celektus: you're just listing off
2017-07-22 19:05 Celektus: do with movement?
2017-07-22 19:06 Fursum: uh, sorry?
2017-07-22 19:06 Celektus: like make it stand out with movment in stead of rhythm
2017-07-22 19:06 Celektus: instead*
2017-07-22 19:07 Fursum: rythm or movement isnt much different though
2017-07-22 19:07 Fursum: only visuals
2017-07-22 19:07 Celektus: anyway
2017-07-22 19:07 Fursum: maybe that non stacked red tick
2017-07-22 19:08 Celektus: maybe
2017-07-22 19:08 Celektus: don't forget 01:26:304 (8) -
2017-07-22 19:08 Fursum: yeah i was talking about that
2017-07-22 19:08 Celektus: wait
2017-07-22 19:09 Celektus: ok I suggested to make it straight
2017-07-22 19:09 Celektus: what were you saying?
2017-07-22 19:10 Fursum: the movement and rythm isnt much different because its not a big highlight
2017-07-22 19:10 Fursum: but still i wanted to highlight it
2017-07-22 19:10 Fursum: so i broke the visual concept
2017-07-22 19:10 Celektus: well it doesn't really stand out
2017-07-22 19:10 Celektus: maybe red anchored?
2017-07-22 19:10 Fursum: hmm
2017-07-22 19:11 Celektus: I think straight is better
2017-07-22 19:11 Fursum: i guess thats better yeah
2017-07-22 19:11 Celektus: ok moving on... I think this jump istoo big for that sound 01:32:254 (3,4) -
2017-07-22 19:12 Celektus: maybe ctrl + H it
2017-07-22 19:12 Fursum: uh
2017-07-22 19:13 Fursum: theres another concept xd
2017-07-22 19:13 Celektus: which?
2017-07-22 19:14 Celektus: like why does 4 get so much emphasis?
2017-07-22 19:14 Fursum: that sliders are on the edges of the screen
2017-07-22 19:14 Fursum: while the rest of the notes are in the middle
2017-07-22 19:14 Fursum: mostly
2017-07-22 19:15 Celektus: well 4 is still pretty far away for just a hit
2017-07-22 19:15 Celektus: hat*
2017-07-22 19:15 Celektus: the spacing is nearly the same as 01:32:998 (4,1) -
2017-07-22 19:15 Celektus: which is arguably stronger
2017-07-22 19:15 Fursum: oh
2017-07-22 19:15 Fursum: theres the slider leniency
2017-07-22 19:16 Celektus: still a bit much+
2017-07-22 19:16 Celektus: maybe move 4 closer to 3 since 5 could be stronger anyway
2017-07-22 19:17 Celektus: that would change a lot tho
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: okay
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: ill adjust the notes
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: oh dam
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: i forgot something
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: 01:36:965 (4,1) - this
2017-07-22 19:17 Fursum: now i need to work around it
2017-07-22 19:17 Celektus: I have an idae
2017-07-22 19:17 Celektus: *idea
2017-07-22 19:18 Celektus: damn I can spell I swear
2017-07-22 19:18 Celektus: ehmmm
2017-07-22 19:18 Celektus: stop
2017-07-22 19:18 Celektus: my idea would've been https://puu.sh/wQhUC.png
2017-07-22 19:19 Celektus: I accidentally tilted it I think
2017-07-22 19:19 Celektus: maybe even ctrl + G on 1
2017-07-22 19:21 Celektus: I think that's all I have to say anyway I'll post this on your thread. If you want any additonal opinions/help ask me
nice. anyway gl man~