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Suzuki Konomi - Blow out

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Topic Starter
Rizia
updated anxient, chloe, yogurtt
xxdeathx
@mtb I'm following the main melody and claps for both sections. That white tick sound is not part of the main melody and hardly noticeable so I'm mapping a 3/4 slider over it.

Thanks!
Monstrata
Nold's Xtra

00:00:932 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I think going the opposite direction (small to big) fits better and supports what you did with 00:03:432 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - .
00:10:463 (1,2,1,2) - It makes more sense to Ctrl+G 00:10:932 (1,2) - to fit the flow, since slider 1 to 2 creates a counterclockwise flow. snapping to 1>2 like that felt like a weird angle and didn't take advantage of the slider movement.
00:22:338 (1,2) - These two felt really overmapped for me. I can understand the 5 note stream, but 7 doens't make sense to me xP.
00:27:026 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The spacing here is just really big unnecessarily, compared to the rest of the jumps you use in the section. I really recommend scaling them down because yea, they stand out a lot but they don't map to anything in the music that stands out. Like 00:42:182 (1,2,1,2,1) - make a lot more sense.
00:57:182 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really not seeing the justification for these jumps xP. Or why they need to be kickslider pairs like this.
00:59:370 (1) - Ctr;+G would be nice. You still get the emphasis on 1 but the flow is more tolerable.
01:04:682 (1) - Actually didn't feel that strong compared to stuff you did earlier.

Yogurtt's Extra

00:11:557 (4,1) - Should be Ctrl+G'ed in terms of rhythm. Like 00:14:057 (4,1) - .
00:36:870 (1,2,3) - Make these bigger so you can set up the player for the next jump on 00:37:495 (1,2,3,4) - .
00:42:182 (3,4,5) - Emphasize 5 instead of 4.
01:15:307 (4,1) - Same as first point.

Extra


00:09:838 (3) - Kinda wish this slider was the same design as the other two for visual consistency.
01:22:807 (4,5) - I wouldn't stack cuz 5 is pretty strong with that crash imo.

Chloe's Extra

00:28:901 (5,1,2) - Not really sure what this is following. I don't recommend mapping vocal here tho because if you listen, vocal is actually quite off. Vocal is like around 00:29:284 - and 00:29:604 - yea xd. Blame the singer.
00:53:120 (3) - stacking this with 00:52:495 (1) - feels better imo. Creates a nicer angle i think, but up to you.

Karen's Expert

00:20:463 (1) - I get the idea, but it looks quite off symmetry. Try using tickrate 2 if you plan on making patterns like thism so you can use the slider-tick to help you make these sliders realy easily (you can always revert back to tickrate 1 later).

RLC's Insane

Good.

VINXIS' Insane

00:20:932 (1,1) - It looks better if you don't NC spam and use different colors imo.
00:52:182 (2,3,4,1) - Wow, using 1/2 sliders instead of pp jumps, edgy!
01:07:495 (3,4) - This just seemed a bit too close compared to other spacings you've used for circles after sliders.

xxdeathx's Insane

00:21:713 (4) - Could be NC'ed.

Hard

00:10:463 - I really think this should be clickable xP.
00:34:370 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - The spacing here just looks really small compared to 00:32:963 (1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:37:651 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - etc....

Lower diffs are fine.

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I'm glad a lot of Nold's diff has been cleaned up, I still have concerns about those cross screen jumps so I'd like to hear Nold's reasons for them or see some changes. Anyways, you can call me back~
xxdeathx
@monstrata that section and its corresponding one at the end of the song are in the calm category so I NC every 2 measures instead of 1

Thanks!
Chloe

Monstrata wrote:

Chloe's Extra

00:28:901 (5,1,2) - Not really sure what this is following. I don't recommend mapping vocal here tho because if you listen, vocal is actually quite off. Vocal is like around 00:29:284 - and 00:29:604 - yea xd. Blame the singer. follow the vocal here is the best way to me for now, the durm appears rarely...
00:53:120 (3) - stacking this with 00:52:495 (1) - feels better imo. Creates a nicer angle i think, but up to you.it makes a little sence here, also it won't affect anything in playing
thank you for mod.
Topic Starter
Rizia
fixed all on my diff
Karen
fixed
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Source:ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
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VINXIS
bro y u flam,min my 1/2 sliders in buildup Wtf




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Title:Blow out
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Version:VINXIS's Insane
Source:ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
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269,105,77963,6,0,P|334:141|390:190,1,148.50000453186,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
174,222,78276,2,0,P|172:148|187:76,1,148.50000453186,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
326,250,78588,2,0,P|263:288|192:312,1,148.50000453186,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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100,329,79213,6,0,L|130:116,1,207.000003948212,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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64,240,79995,2,0,P|115:246|167:248,1,103.500001974106,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,124,80307,1,8,0:0:0:0:
300,241,80463,6,0,P|351:235|402:229,1,103.500001974106,0|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,123,80776,2,0,P|460:116|409:111,1,103.500001974106,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,124,81088,2,0,P|177:139|227:153,1,103.500001974106,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,0,81401,2,0,P|345:14|295:29,1,103.500001974106,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,241,81713,6,0,P|393:238|506:222,1,207.000003948212,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
505,222,82182,2,0,P|493:277|485:338,1,103.500001974106,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
381,107,82495,2,0,P|456:85|494:76,2,103.500001974106,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,180,82963,6,0,L|195:308,1,103.500001974106,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,235,83276,1,0,0:0:0:0:
101,189,83432,1,8,0:0:0:0:
59,80,83588,1,0,0:0:0:0:
59,80,83666,1,0,0:0:0:0:
59,80,83745,5,8,0:0:0:0:
260,78,83901,1,8,0:0:0:0:
307,275,84057,1,8,0:0:0:0:
492,192,84213,1,4,1:0:0:0:
492,192,84526,5,0,0:0:0:0:
436,119,84682,2,0,P|444:69|452:30,1,72,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
458,269,84995,2,0,P|408:261|369:253,2,72,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,183,85463,6,0,P|289:201|259:222,1,72,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,98,85776,2,0,P|217:129|202:162,1,72,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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311,348,87182,2,0,P|385:349|411:347,1,72,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,267,87495,2,0,P|476:266|440:268,2,72,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,183,87963,6,0,P|222:201|252:222,1,72,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
277,98,88276,2,0,P|294:129|309:162,1,72,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
394,66,88588,2,0,P|393:101|390:137,1,72,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
512,96,88901,1,0,0:0:0:0:
459,278,89057,1,8,0:0:0:0:
309,162,89213,5,0,0:0:0:0:
Len
welldone
Ulysses
I apologise for the late response, I am in a very restrictive area where access to the Internet is highly limited and I do not have a computer with me. Please apply the mods on my behalf should the need arise. I can recall some, unfortunately not all, of the patterns in question, thus, corresponding responses can be given. Since the judgements are made upon mere memory, they may not therefore be aptly ascribed to accurate responses to Monstrata's mods. As such, I require Rezia's assistance in applying and rejecting mods, under such a circumstance, his applications and rejections of the mods may violate my will upon his judgements.

Monstrata wrote:

Nold's Xtra

00:00:932 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I think going the opposite direction (small to big) fits better and supports what you did with 00:03:432 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . :arrow: It would be counter intuitive to make the distance between the last two notes of the first group so big and then sudden shrink that of the first pattern of the second group. Moreover, I do wish more variations instead of repetitions can be made in the intro.

00:10:463 (1,2,1,2) - It makes more sense to Ctrl+G 00:10:932 (1,2) - to fit the flow, since slider 1 to 2 creates a counterclockwise flow. snapping to 1>2 like that felt like a weird angle and didn't take advantage of the slider movement.
00:22:338 (1,2) - These two felt really overmapped for me. I can understand the 5 note stream, but 7 doens't make sense to me xP.
00:27:026 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The spacing here is just really big unnecessarily, compared to the rest of the jumps you use in the section. I really recommend scaling them down because yea, they stand out a lot but they don't map to anything in the music that stands out. Like 00:42:182 (1,2,1,2,1) - make a lot more sense. :arrow: I am not sure which pattern you are talking about but if Rezia deems the change appropriate, I will go for it.
00:57:182 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really not seeing the justification for these jumps xP. Or why they need to be kickslider pairs like this. :arrow: Please Rezia help me shrink the spacing by a bit.
00:59:370 (1) - Ctr;+G would be nice. You still get the emphasis on 1 but the flow is more tolerable. :arrow: Is it the 1/4 jump? and is this the 1/4 slider? If so, I would keep it as ctrl+g-ing it would ruin the flow of the coming pattern and I feel the sound at this point is sudden so the breaking of the flow is justified.
01:04:682 (1) - Actually didn't feel that strong compared to stuff you did earlier.

Rezia please.
Thank you so much for the mods Monstrata.
Topic Starter
Rizia

nold_1702 wrote:

I apologise for the late response, I am in a very restrictive area where access to the Internet is highly limited and I do not have a computer with me. Please apply the mods on my behalf should the need arise. I can recall some, unfortunately not all, of the patterns in question, thus, corresponding responses can be given. Since the judgements are made upon mere memory, they may not therefore aptly ascribe to accurate responses to Monstrata's mods. As such, I require Rezia's assistance in applying and rejecting mods, under such a circumstance, his applications and rejections of the mods may violate my will upon his judgements.

Monstrata wrote:

Nold's Xtra

00:00:932 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I think going the opposite direction (small to big) fits better and supports what you did with 00:03:432 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . :arrow: It would be counter intuitive to make the distance between the last two notes of the first group so big and then sudden shrink that of the first pattern of the second group. Moreover, I do wish more variations instead of repetitions can be made in the intro.

00:10:463 (1,2,1,2) - It makes more sense to Ctrl+G 00:10:932 (1,2) - to fit the flow, since slider 1 to 2 creates a counterclockwise flow. snapping to 1>2 like that felt like a weird angle and didn't take advantage of the slider movement. flow would be fine imo
00:22:338 (1,2) - These two felt really overmapped for me. I can understand the 5 note stream, but 7 doens't make sense to me xP.
i can hear there have some appropriate to follow
00:27:026 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The spacing here is just really big unnecessarily, compared to the rest of the jumps you use in the section. I really recommend scaling them down because yea, they stand out a lot but they don't map to anything in the music that stands out. Like 00:42:182 (1,2,1,2,1) - make a lot more sense. :arrow: I am not sure which pattern you are talking about but if Rezia deems the change appropriate, I will go for it.
00:57:182 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Really not seeing the justification for these jumps xP. Or why they need to be kickslider pairs like this. :arrow: Please Rezia help me shrink the spacing by a bit.
00:59:370 (1) - Ctr;+G would be nice. You still get the emphasis on 1 but the flow is more tolerable. :arrow: Is it the 1/4 jump? and is this the 1/4 slider? If so, I would keep it as ctrl+g-ing it would ruin the flow of the coming pattern and I feel the sound at this point is sudden so the breaking of the flow is justified.
01:04:682 (1) - Actually didn't feel that strong compared to stuff you did earlier.

Rezia please.
Thank you so much for the mods Monstrata.
updated above
Monstrata
Chloe's Extra is missing video.

Unused hitsounds:

soft-sliderslide70.wav

Change these to .wav please:

normal-hitfinish65.mp3
soft-hitfinish70.mp3
soft-hitnormal70.mp3

normal-hitfinish70.wav needs to be cropped, it has too much of a delay at the beginning thats unnecessary.

Call me when they're fixed.
Topic Starter
Rizia
Monstrata
We fixed the hitsound cuz even tho it was not 0% volume at the beginning, it was still basically inaudible.

Bubbled!
Djulus
Hoyl
Yogurtt
ayyyy almost there boys
cedar
dude wat (probably no kds)
Nold's diff

SPOILER
00:22:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what is any of this even mapped to
00:28:276 (1,2) - you don't use any jumps this big in the chorus, but I mean, sure, yeah, just throw them in at some random point in the verse
00:30:776 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - there are at least audible drums for this part, but why 1/8 sliders, drums definitely don't have any implication of a held sound
00:33:745 (1,2,3) - random uncomfortable flow when nothing in the song implies discomfort
00:42:182 (1,2,1,2,1) - actual fullscreen jumps. y tho. also, why kicksliders?
00:52:182 (1,2,3,1,2) - again, why kicksliders? not to mention the fact that this pattern is really small. if you're using fullscreen jumps at random shit, shouldn't you be using fullscreen jumps for the buildup to the chorus?
00:54:370 (2,3,4) - mapped to???
00:55:151 (2,3,1) - ^
00:55:776 (1,2,3) - ^
00:56:245 (2,3,4) - ^
00:57:182 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - kicksliders? and I think I've sufficiently covered my issues with spacing by now
00:58:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not mapped to anything. not to mention the fact that you put the corner on a weak beat
00:59:526 (2,3,4) - more overmapping
no point in modding the rest, this covers every basic issue, but, I mean, why? you're a good mapper, you know all this shit already, why would you make a map that doesn't follow the music at all?
even with all the basic issues tho, still better than a lot of ranked maps. imo, ranking this as is would a step in the wrong direction for the ranked section, but I think that's too far gone anyway. ecks dee.

(edit: forgot to mention which diff)
Ulysses
Hello burntceder. Thank you for your mod. I am very sorry that I am now unable to change anything. However, I would like to address that my mapping style may not necessarily follow exact sounds in the song so mechanically, the way in which I map is nonetheless to use objects as means to create a vibe that fits the song.
cedar

nold_1702 wrote:

I would like to address that my mapping style may not necessarily follow exact sounds in the song so mechanically, the way in which I map is nonetheless to use objects as means to create a vibe that fits the song.
"It's my style"
that, and the fact that overmapping on this level is really not something that should be pushed towards rank, aside, that doesn't explain why you put larger jumps in a non intense section of a song than in the chorus...

anyway, I should apologize, I didn't know a single bubble made you incapable of updating. I hope what I said didn't come across as spiteful, you've made some of my favorite maps, and are a cool guy in general, so I hope we're still on good terms.
Ulysses
Hello burntceder, thank you for your response. It was not the bubble that made me unable to make changes in the diff, but the fact that I have no computer with me and the internet here is awful that it has taken me 15 mins to go onto this site alone. I would need Rezia's assistance, once again, to judge if changes should be made upon your mod. Thank you again for your mod and your support.
Ascendance
Nold replies are so cute
Topic Starter
Rizia
xixi
Elira
Yogurtt
:x
Topic Starter
Rizia
-Atri-
柚!
Left
make me nominator and i'll qf this
Yogurtt
make me nominator and i'll qf this
Topic Starter
Rizia
plz
Skystar
yuzu
_handholding

Left wrote:

make me nominator and i'll qf this
pavpab
Go ahead ;w;
-Atri-

Yogurtt wrote:

make me nominator and i'll qf this
Ulysses

Kisses wrote:

Left wrote:

make me nominator and i'll qf this
You are a BN.
nextplay
hi
Modding assistant shows that those 2 hitsounds have a delay
normal-hitfinish65.wav
normal-hitfinish70.wav

fix them
gl

(no kds)
Shiguma
Anyone have nold's old version?

k someone sent me
Cris-
Ranked when? zzz
Hollow Delta
Do you not have a qualifying bn? pm me if I may take a look
Hollow Delta
Apparently you don't so have a nm

red is reason for pop

General
  1. normal-hitclap75.wav if you look in audacity has a delay of about .003s. It's technically acceptable because it's not a delay of 0.005s but I think it'd still make the hitsound provide more accurate feedback.
  2. normal-hitfinish65.wav has a delay of about .03s which is actually unrankable, so you'll have to cut it down to at least 0.005s for it to be rankable.
  3. normal-hitfinish72.wav has a delay of about .003s which could be cut shorter while you deal with hitfinish65
  4. gap in AR from Normal to Hard is kind of large in comparison to Easy to Normal, Try ar6 for Normal?
Hard
  1. 00:16:870 (1,2,3,4) - I feel this rhythm might come as a shock because 00:16:713 - sounds similar to 00:15:463 (1) - which had a click, so having the emphasis on 00:16:870 (1) - when it was empty at the previous occurrence would be surprising. https://puu.sh/zJ9a6/2547082acd.png I feel this variation fits better
  2. 00:25:463 (4) - Interesting, I've never seen anything like this but it works xp
  3. 01:20:463 - Similar to above https://puu.sh/zJa2F/b451ed806b.png
Normal and Easy looked okay. I'm gonna need more time to look at the upper diffs but for now try to resolve this stuff xp
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