2017-05-21 16:30 hi-mei: yo
2017-05-21 16:30 hi-mei: i can irc mod now
2017-05-21 16:31 hi-mei: wanna go?
2017-05-21 16:32 Itasha_S13: Suuure
2017-05-21 16:32 hi-mei: ok so
2017-05-21 16:32 hi-mei: few general things i saw
2017-05-21 16:33 hi-mei: when you mapping slider art, the best way to do that is to make sure that each slider is complementing the following
2017-05-21 16:33 hi-mei: sec ill find some examples
2017-05-21 16:33 hi-mei: 01:12:053 (3,1) -
2017-05-21 16:33 hi-mei: for example
2017-05-21 16:33 hi-mei: these two can be like
2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei:
http://puu.sh/vX0yz/b8444a5eb1.jpg2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei: at least like this
2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei: 02:12:221 (1) -
2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei: this shit
2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei: please nuke it
2017-05-21 16:34 hi-mei: it doesnt represent the song at all
2017-05-21 16:35 hi-mei: the wiggling sound is going among all the slider
2017-05-21 16:35 hi-mei: not only the first part of it
2017-05-21 16:35 hi-mei: its just bad
2017-05-21 16:35 hi-mei: and also, the slider itself is meh
2017-05-21 16:36 hi-mei: the thing is, that when you play it you dont really se how fucked the ball movement is
2017-05-21 16:36 hi-mei: its just w/e for player, if you making this for mappers, then its really wrong
2017-05-21 16:37 hi-mei: 02:23:008 (1,2) - also theres no correlation
2017-05-21 16:37 hi-mei: with these two
2017-05-21 16:37 Itasha_S13: Oke, I fixed the first 2 sliders, and..
2017-05-21 16:37 hi-mei: i think its enough of examples
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: yeah yeah but, still, they don't look bad
2017-05-21 16:38 hi-mei: yea im lazy to go thru the entire thing cuz ill be repeating the same shit. so the next thing is...
2017-05-21 16:38 hi-mei: yea i know
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: I don't really need to relate every slider "art"
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: If it plays well
2017-05-21 16:38 hi-mei: well
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: I won't change this one, or the wub one
2017-05-21 16:38 hi-mei: its only up to you
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: because the wub one plays well
2017-05-21 16:38 hi-mei: im too meticulous
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: the first part of the wub sound its like stucked and then fading
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: thats why it has that shape
2017-05-21 16:38 Itasha_S13: also, it plays well with the previous slider
2017-05-21 16:39 hi-mei: hm
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: No player had problems with it and I've already get lot of playtests
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: with
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: even
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: people with
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: like 3k pp or less
2017-05-21 16:39 Itasha_S13: and they didnt have any proiblem with it
2017-05-21 16:39 hi-mei: dude im not retarded trust me, im just bringing up things
2017-05-21 16:39 hi-mei: that u can improve
2017-05-21 16:39 hi-mei: im not saying that its unrankable
2017-05-21 16:39 hi-mei: or remap plz
2017-05-21 16:40 hi-mei: you can make these more pretty
2017-05-21 16:40 hi-mei: sooo
2017-05-21 16:40 Itasha_S13: Yeah but I like how they are atm ;_;
2017-05-21 16:40 Itasha_S13: at least
2017-05-21 16:40 Itasha_S13: that wub one
2017-05-21 16:40 Itasha_S13: Maybe Im gonna change this aswell
2017-05-21 16:40 Itasha_S13: 02:23:513 (2) -
2017-05-21 16:40 hi-mei: 01:41:462 (4,1) - i dont like this transition
2017-05-21 16:41 hi-mei: i mean, its really confusing during the gameplay
2017-05-21 16:41 Itasha_S13: why
2017-05-21 16:41 hi-mei: caause
2017-05-21 16:41 hi-mei: you never know, what is the gap between 01:41:462 (4,1) -
2017-05-21 16:41 hi-mei: is it 1/4 or 1/2
2017-05-21 16:42 hi-mei: well
2017-05-21 16:42 hi-mei: uh its not that bad
2017-05-21 16:42 hi-mei: actually
2017-05-21 16:42 hi-mei: just my presonal prefernce
2017-05-21 16:42 Itasha_S13: well I think im gonna pay more attention to that part when I see people playing it
2017-05-21 16:42 Itasha_S13: I havent notice if they have problems with it
2017-05-21 16:42 Itasha_S13: (because when I try it, I dont, but you know why so..)
2017-05-21 16:43 hi-mei: 02:06:491 (4,1,2) -
2017-05-21 16:43 hi-mei:
http://puu.sh/vX0Wd/e43e2b0bc1.jpg2017-05-21 16:43 hi-mei: make it like this please
2017-05-21 16:44 hi-mei: this gap 02:06:491 (4,1) - can be played like 1/2
2017-05-21 16:44 hi-mei: i would never know if that was 1/4
2017-05-21 16:45 hi-mei: you know, when you trying to rank map, its really hard to listen to someone cuz eventually ur map will be changed by others
2017-05-21 16:45 hi-mei: tho its necessary if u wanna rank
2017-05-21 16:45 hi-mei: bns gonna force u to change things
2017-05-21 16:45 hi-mei: i changed a lot in my map
2017-05-21 16:45 hi-mei: even when i was against it
2017-05-21 16:46 hi-mei: when you say "i like it as it is" then people will not try to argue with you
2017-05-21 16:46 hi-mei: and they will most likely abandon ur map and will not icon it
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: unless you provide some arguments on why it is good
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: or why its bad
2017-05-21 16:47 Itasha_S13: I told you why I wont change it
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: i know
2017-05-21 16:47 Itasha_S13: its because the first part of the wub sound sounds like "stucked" for me, and the rest its like fading and thats why I won't change it
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: yea yea
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: i know
2017-05-21 16:47 Itasha_S13: I've already changed the other things you mentioning
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: im telling u things that i learned
2017-05-21 16:47 Itasha_S13: you mentioned
2017-05-21 16:47 hi-mei: u dont have to argue with me cuz im not bn
2017-05-21 16:47 Itasha_S13: whatever, I've changed everything except that
2017-05-21 16:48 Itasha_S13: :thinking:
2017-05-21 16:48 hi-mei: 02:09:777 (4,1) - are u sure it plays good?
2017-05-21 16:49 hi-mei: spike from 0.3 to 1.9 is very noticable
2017-05-21 16:49 hi-mei: these sounds 02:13:570 - 02:13:738 - 02:13:907 -
2017-05-21 16:50 hi-mei: they are equal, why did u put a slider end on the 2nd one?
2017-05-21 16:50 Itasha_S13: yep it actually plays well, the only jumpstream that I've seen that has been difficult to hit its the last one
2017-05-21 16:50 Itasha_S13: weirdly, because I thought it was the easier one
2017-05-21 16:51 Itasha_S13: because the preivous stream
2017-05-21 16:51 Itasha_S13: it playes better this way than using kicksliders just from the end of the stream
2017-05-21 16:51 hi-mei: but u realize that its inconsistent
2017-05-21 16:51 hi-mei: right?
2017-05-21 16:52 Itasha_S13: It's inconsistent .. probably yes, but should I make it into a kickslider? because that will be..
2017-05-21 16:52 hi-mei: 02:14:918 (1,2,3) - same thing
2017-05-21 16:52 Itasha_S13: That will not play as well as it does now idk
2017-05-21 16:52 hi-mei: look at the next sound meassure
2017-05-21 16:52 hi-mei: u did 3 kicksliders
2017-05-21 16:52 hi-mei:
2017-05-21 16:52 Itasha_S13: yeah, because you're not coming from a high spaced stream
2017-05-21 16:52 Itasha_S13: and there's 3 sounds like that
2017-05-21 16:53 Itasha_S13: here
2017-05-21 16:53 Itasha_S13: 02:13:570 -
2017-05-21 16:53 Itasha_S13: there's just 2 of them
2017-05-21 16:53 Itasha_S13: I mean, it plays better this way s:
2017-05-21 16:53 hi-mei: well w/e
2017-05-21 16:54 hi-mei: 02:14:075 (1,2,3) - 02:14:918 (1,2,3) - 02:15:424 (1,2,3) - 02:15:929 (1,2) - and 02:18:963 (1,2,3) - 02:19:469 (1,2) -
2017-05-21 16:54 hi-mei: spacing
2017-05-21 16:55 hi-mei: the last two
2017-05-21 16:55 hi-mei: shud be spaced i thing
2017-05-21 16:55 hi-mei: think*
2017-05-21 16:55 hi-mei: 02:20:311 (1,2) - etc
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: Hmm gonna think about it, using that linear flow and low spacing fits better that wub wound imo, I did the same the 3 times this sound appears
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: and these
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: 02:20:311 (1,2) -
2017-05-21 16:56 hi-mei: 02:22:165 (2,3) - this blanket
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: doesnt have much spacing for the same reason
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: uh
2017-05-21 16:56 Itasha_S13: fixed
2017-05-21 16:58 hi-mei: yea its all about spacing in this section
2017-05-21 16:58 hi-mei: 02:47:951 - i mean, the section with many red lines
2017-05-21 16:58 hi-mei: green lines*
2017-05-21 16:58 hi-mei: it feels like the spacing between these kicksliders is always different
2017-05-21 16:59 Itasha_S13: well the sounds arent the same too :thinking:
2017-05-21 16:59 hi-mei: 02:24:188 (2) - 2x here 02:34:974 (2) - 1.8 02:45:761 (2) - 1.4
2017-05-21 16:59 hi-mei: these are the same
2017-05-21 17:00 Itasha_S13: fixed the spacing by doing ctrl+g on this02:47:952 (2) -
2017-05-21 17:00 hi-mei: i know u were using patterns to justify this inconsistency
2017-05-21 17:00 hi-mei: but i shud have bringed up this anyways
2017-05-21 17:01 Itasha_S13: yeah but what I can do
2017-05-21 17:01 hi-mei: hm
2017-05-21 17:01 Itasha_S13: s:
2017-05-21 17:01 hi-mei: well if the variety if around 0.2-0.3ds then its w/e
2017-05-21 17:01 Itasha_S13: I mean, do they really need to have the same spacing? If I change between 2 and 1.8 is there any problem? I think its pretty similar and the shapes goes well with the song
2017-05-21 17:01 hi-mei: but if its more than 0.5x then u shud be reconsider it
2017-05-21 17:01 Itasha_S13: Yeah I will remap that
2017-05-21 17:02 hi-mei: 02:54:356 (4) -
2017-05-21 17:02 hi-mei: are u sure its readable?
2017-05-21 17:02 Itasha_S13: It is xD
2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: maybe make it like this
http://puu.sh/vX1O9/82a4afd3bb.jpg2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: at least to avoid this stack
2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: with slider start
2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: 02:54:862 (3,1,2,3,4) -
2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: this thing
2017-05-21 17:03 hi-mei: i think that
2017-05-21 17:04 hi-mei: 02:54:862 - is a part of 02:55:030 - ?
2017-05-21 17:04 hi-mei: 02:54:946 - this sound isnt mapped for some reason
2017-05-21 17:04 Itasha_S13: Hmm youre right
2017-05-21 17:05 Itasha_S13: there should be a stream from 02:54:862 (3) -
2017-05-21 17:05 hi-mei: yes
2017-05-21 17:05 hi-mei: 03:14:244 (5) - nc
2017-05-21 17:06 hi-mei: 03:16:940 (1,1) - make it like this please
http://puu.sh/vX1Xi/5f975e647e.jpg2017-05-21 17:06 Itasha_S13:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/81440702017-05-21 17:06 Itasha_S13:
k_hand:
2017-05-21 17:07 hi-mei: 03:45:086 (1) -
2017-05-21 17:07 hi-mei: ok so...
2017-05-21 17:07 hi-mei: this
2017-05-21 17:07 hi-mei: zzzzzzzz
2017-05-21 17:07 Itasha_S13: whats wrong with it
2017-05-21 17:08 hi-mei: ok so the slider curve at the start of the slider is unrankable, i had the same shit and doyak was about to dq my map for that
2017-05-21 17:08 hi-mei: so i remapped it after dq
2017-05-21 17:08 hi-mei: cuz too many people complained about it
2017-05-21 17:08 hi-mei: welli think
2017-05-21 17:08 Itasha_S13: how the fuck is that even possible if there's a lot of map with curves like this wtf
2017-05-21 17:09 hi-mei: sec
2017-05-21 17:09 hi-mei:
http://puu.sh/vX27B/0e0102c920.jpgi think its better
2017-05-21 17:09 hi-mei: well they complained that
2017-05-21 17:10 hi-mei: the pplease doesnt know which way slider ball will go
2017-05-21 17:10 hi-mei: thru
2017-05-21 17:10 hi-mei: omg
2017-05-21 17:10 the player doesnt know which way slider ball will choose *
2017-05-21 17:10 hi-mei: i dont look at what im typing
2017-05-21 17:11 hi-mei: 03:44:581 (1,2,3,4,5) - also this curve can be precisely blanketing the next slider
2017-05-21 17:11 hi-mei: for now its 0/10
2017-05-21 17:11 Itasha_S13: thats kinda stooped if you ask me, the player is force to make a pause to hit the circle, from a low spacing jump, and the slider perfectlys represent the song imo
2017-05-21 17:12 Itasha_S13:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/81441432017-05-21 17:12 Itasha_S13: is it okay like this?
2017-05-21 17:12 hi-mei: like this
http://puu.sh/vX2gV/93e9519272.jpg2017-05-21 17:13 hi-mei: add a anchor for kick slider
2017-05-21 17:13 hi-mei: it shudnt be 2 anchor slider
2017-05-21 17:13 hi-mei: it shud be curved
2017-05-21 17:13 Itasha_S13: just look at the pic I just sended lmeo
2017-05-21 17:13 Itasha_S13: Yeah I did that
2017-05-21 17:13 hi-mei: yea ok
2017-05-21 17:14 hi-mei: 03:49:300 (5) - nc maybe
2017-05-21 17:14 Itasha_S13: yeah, I remapped that part last night and the last kiai
2017-05-21 17:14 Itasha_S13: and forgot bout some NC
2017-05-21 17:14 Itasha_S13: sorry
2017-05-21 17:14 hi-mei: 04:02:615 (1) - i cant understand this nc
2017-05-21 17:14 Itasha_S13: heh
2017-05-21 17:14 Itasha_S13: lmao
2017-05-21 17:15 Itasha_S13: fixed fixed
2017-05-21 17:16 hi-mei: 04:30:929 (6,1) - this space shud be bigger than04:30:761 (5,6) -
2017-05-21 17:16 hi-mei: 04:48:963 (3,4) - this shud be bigger than04:48:794 (2,3) -
2017-05-21 17:17 hi-mei: idk why its reversed right now
2017-05-21 17:17 hi-mei: 04:49:637 (7,8) - same thing
2017-05-21 17:17 hi-mei: 04:49:469 (6,7) - shud be smaller than04:49:637 (7,8) -
2017-05-21 17:21 Itasha_S13: gonna remap these jumps
2017-05-21 17:21 hi-mei: 05:55:367 (2,3) - ctrl+g?
2017-05-21 17:22 hi-mei: 05:55:704 (1,2,3) -
http://puu.sh/vX2Fx/455bf6d0fe.jpg looks better
2017-05-21 17:22 Itasha_S13: these were like that when I mapped it but then I changed
2017-05-21 17:22 Itasha_S13: it plays better how is it now
2017-05-21 17:23 Itasha_S13: prob not gonna change that last triplet since Im not changing these 05:55:367 (2,3) -
2017-05-21 17:23 Itasha_S13: it plays better this way
2017-05-21 17:24 hi-mei: well w/e
2017-05-21 17:24 hi-mei: alright thats it