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AiRI - Kimi to Tsukuru Mou Hitotsu no Mirai

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sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
sahuang
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年8月15日 at 1:17:43

Artist: AiRI
Title: Kimi to Tsukuru Mou Hitotsu no Mirai
Source: ここから夏のイノセンス！
Tags: my angel azusa narcissu joker- mei KaedekaShizuru Clochette Kokokara Natsu no Innocence op galgame eroge
BPM: 134
Filesize: 6118kb
Play Time: 01:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Future (4.16 stars, 507 notes)
  2. joker's Easy (1.4 stars, 130 notes)
  3. Kaedeka's Insane (3.78 stars, 420 notes)
  4. Mei's Normal (2.09 stars, 217 notes)
  5. Narcissu's Hard (3.12 stars, 346 notes)
Download: AiRI - Kimi to Tsukuru Mou Hitotsu no Mirai
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by sahuang , edited 18 times in total.
kunka
1,566 posts
Joined July 2012
kunka
Hi~
From your Q
Future

  1. 00:15:678 (5) - Because it is strong sound, different hitsound is desirable for this sound. Add a whistle or remove samplset and clap and add a finish?
  2. 00:30:006 (3) - stack to 00:29:111 (5) - ? 266:230
  3. 00:44:334 (5) - I recommend 1/2slider. Please look the next notes 00:44:559 (6,7,1) - . Strong sound starts from 00:44:671 (7) - . The 00:44:559 (6) - has the sound, but thinks that it is the sound that it can make up for enough in slider-end. https://puu.sh/wXO23.jpg
  4. 01:19:820 - Sound thinks that it is good to add a circle to make rhythm here because there is it.
  5. 01:30:566 - ^
  6. 01:49:484 (2) - I don't understand an intention of kick. You must change the also 01:50:156 (6) - same if it's vocal follow.
  7. 01:55:081 (1) - I hear cymbals sound. add a finish pls~
Kaedeka's Insane

  1. 00:15:230 (4) - Because the 00:15:678 - is strong sound, clickable is desirable. I recommend addition of 3/4slider https://puu.sh/wXPjg.jpg
  2. 00:24:186 (6) - I recommend a copy of the 00:24:633 (7) - for symmetry.
  3. 00:26:424 (6) - ^ copy of 00:25:977 (5) -
  4. 00:28:663 (1,2,3,4) - I feel rhythm to be like hard diff. Because there are many sounds, I recommend the change that is suitable for insane diff. For example https://puu.sh/wXPNi.jpg
  5. 01:27:432 (2,3,4,1) - tbh, I can watch almost none of the slider :o Because the recognition of the slider is not easy, I recommend a change of the placement.
  6. 01:46:350 (4,5) - why stack? stack is not used in remaining notes.
Narcissu's Hard

  1. 01:12:992 (7) - Would you pick up a sound of the 01:13:327 - ? I think that it is not necessary to remove it. https://puu.sh/wXQLL.jpg
  2. 01:34:484 (4,5,6) - I feel sense of incongruity in rhythm. I think that a sound of 01:34:820 - is stronger than 01:34:596 (5) -
Mei's Normal

  1. 00:42:096 (3) - I think that a flow to 00:42:768 (4) - is improved by ctrl+H.
  2. 01:22:842 (2) - I felt sense of incongruity a little. Because it's pretty vocal follow, I suggest it as follows https://puu.sh/wXRpJ.jpg
  3. 01:26:424 (2) - The 01:26:648 - is the last of a series of lyrics. Therefore, I feel sense of incongruity for a reverse point. try this https://puu.sh/wXRFI.jpg
joker's Easy

  1. 01:21:947 (3) - It's reverse placement for a flow. Would you change a direction? For example https://puu.sh/wXSah.jpg
  2. 01:32:245 (2,3) - fmm,,I worry about 1/2 rhythm. I suggest a different plan. However, I recommend that I change it after hearing an opinion of other modder https://puu.sh/wXSBX.jpg
That’s all. I like the high voice of AiRI :) gl
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
咋回事啊 这就12sp了
M4M：https://osu.ppy.sh/s/641285

[General]
  1. EN的spread会比较危险．normal的大ds本身倒还不是问题，但同时加上很多连续1/2的需要移动的clickable物件以及一些过于复杂的节奏就比较难了．
[Easy]
  1. 00:28:439 - add some hitsound would give player more feed back
[Normal]
  1. 见General
  2. ar5 spread会更好，并且这是比较难的normal，4稍微低了
  3. hitsound过少．这个难度很多地方可以根据跟的音轨来加一些音效，强调所跟的内容，给玩家更强的反馈．比如00:02:917 - 00:03:365 - 00:04:708 - ……这类滑条头没有音效会欠缺一点．
  4. 00:28:439 (1,2,3,4) - 这种地方缺得就更加明显．
  5. 从00:30:454 - 到00:42:992 - 这一段则是finish鼓点过于喧宾夺主，这段音乐比前后两段都轻很多，却用的一样音量，实在有点违和．顺便00:43:663 - 这种地方又是很需要音效但是没有的．
  6. 建议再check下整个难度，多考虑一下hitsound，后面音效问题不再说了基本都是类似的
  7. 00:54:409 (2) - 不是很有必要跟（至少不需要用clickable的东西跟）的音，过于加大了复杂度
  8. 00:58:215 (3) - 换成一个1/1折返或许比较好
  9. 01:17:021 (1,2) - 过于弯曲有点不好看
  10. 01:33:812 (3) - 这形状在整个难度里看似乎有点突兀
  11. 01:41:424 (3,4,5) - 这样的就实在过难了，尤其是easy非常非常简单的情况下，这个东西可以说完全是hard的级别了
[Hard]
  1. 00:15:678 (6) - hard里不是很有必要放的东西．虽说是打头就可以和1/2区别不大，但实际上会给这难度的玩家带来读图上的疑惑．而且我不觉得这个音真的有必要放这种特殊梗
  2. 00:16:798 (2,3,4) - 00:20:380 (2,3) - 00:23:962 (2,3,4) - 00:27:544 (2,3) - 虽说是三二三二有规律的顺序，但还是建议统一节奏，因为本来00:20:603 - 等地的音其实就比较响，如果不跟的话也应该统一否则会很奇怪．最好还是全都放上三连，一定要用二连的话也应该在00:20:492 - 等地加上音效，以强调你所跟的轨给玩家以反馈
  3. 00:58:215 (3,1) - 这自动堆叠导致的overlap很难看
  4. 01:00:230 (6) - 01:03:813 (6) - 01:07:395 (6) - 前面提过，并且这个音我觉得听得很清楚他时值是半拍，蓝线的时候明显还没结束，哪怕不说难度的问题，我也不觉得1/4合适
[Insane]
  1. 开头音效太小了几乎听不到，稍微调大到能听到的程度吧
  2. 00:28:439 (8,1,2) - 一个滑条后1/4跳之后是一个3次折返滑条，结尾落在重音上，而00:29:335 - 这里又很轻，这读起来打起来都不太舒服，感觉还是把00:29:111 - 这里拆出来个单点好，毕竟前面你都用了滑条跳
  3. 00:41:200 (1,2) - sv很慢，3/4长度本身就不太明显，ds又用跟1/2差不多得，这就比较难读出3/4容易放早，建议近点
  4. 00:58:663 (6,1) - 反向感觉这样稍微远了一点（跟后面几个比）
  5. 01:42:096 (5) - 感觉还是nc下比较好，毕竟类似地方01:27:768 (1) - 也nc（虽然这里肯定得nc）
[Future]
  1. 00:15:230 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - wokao这里音乐有点unsnap啊……如果修不了的话建议换个音效，因为这个鼓会让unsnap听得更清楚……或者干脆还是删掉00:15:790 (6,7,8) - 这overmap
  2. 哇ar8分离串还真是一点良心都没 不过我喜欢
  3. 01:45:678 (3) - 加个nc？毕竟你白线前三连都在白线上加了，这里nc能方便读出开始时的节奏
GL
Underdogs
820 posts
Joined July 2014
Underdogs
map is already solid as is so I'm going to be a bit subjective if you don't mind

joker's easy
  1. 00:14:335 (3,4) - make slider end clickable? Piano starts there so it sounded like a click is needed
  2. 00:23:290 (1) - I don't know if the red anchor is needed. A straight slider is better here, or make it curved like 00:16:126 (1) - since both sounded the same.
  3. 00:28:439 (2) - Probably NC. The fact that you use an offbeat out of nowhere might confuse the players. But spamming NC on Easy is not recommended, so your call
  4. 00:44:783 (1,2) - Does not look intuitive(maybe the body that made it look like bad flow so i don't know)
  5. 01:12:544 (4,5) - Probably zig-zag since the song is at the peak before kiai? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8727735

Mei's Normal
  1. 00:15:230 (3) - I am not sure making slider ending on strong beat is a good idea
  2. 01:16:126 (3,1) - This transition looks weird. Is like the body on 01:17:021 (1) - emphasizes a weak sound, while 01:16:126 (3) - sounded the same but the body looked a bit straight.
  3. 01:35:827 (3,1) - make this parallel?

Narcissu Hard
  1. Not a fan of these inconsistent spacing. But with the low BPM, I guess this can be tolerated
  2. 00:04:484 (3) - Decrease spacing. The vocals pitch is lower there so increasing the spacing sounded absurd
  3. 00:11:648 (3) - ^
  4. 00:15:678 (6) - I don't know if the blue tick deserves to be a passive beat. A circle fits better here
  5. 00:20:380 (2,3) - A bit unexpected when you suddenly use two notes instead of three like you always did before

didn't notice something wrong with the other diffs that deserves a change.

map for m4m https://osu.ppy.sh/s/623515
sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
sahuang
@kunka
super thanks for your mod!!! almost all fixed except adding the two circles because i feel the jumps are fine.
@patamon fixed
@MashaSG it will be too hard lol
Last edited by sahuang , edited 1 time in total.
Kilabarus
999 posts
Joined May 2015
Kilabarus
#1 nazi mod

General:


  1. Choose different combo colours for every diff
joker's Easy:

  1. 00:28:439 (2) - This feels kinda strange, since you wasn't following other sounds than drums in previous section of music at all, I recommend you to place 1/1 reverse slider on 00:28:215 - here
  2. 00:55:529 (1) -Better to be consistent here and place red anchor on 00:55:977 - here, because there is a drum + vocal
  3. 01:21:947 (3,4,5) - Rhythm is broken here because you placed slider tail on the down beat, fix plz
Everything else is fine I think

Mei's Normal:

  1. 00:06:947 (1,2) - Fix blanket plz, it's really weird atm
  2. 00:21:051 (4,1) - Why is this stacked, when no other circles stacked in same situations?
  3. 00:40:753 (4) - 2 circles is better here since there are 2 strong extra vocal sounds here, not like on previous sliders
  4. 01:22:171 (1,2,3) - If you follow strong vocals like you do on first slider, then you should place 3rd slider on 01:23:066 - here and make 01:22:842 (2) - just one circle ( Same here 01:36:499 (1,2,3) - )
  5. 01:33:812 (3) - Through the whole KIAI you didn't use sliders like, so be consistent here and make sonething smooth here, like your all previous sliders
Narcissu's Hard:

  1. 00:05:156 (4,1) - 00:12:320 (5,1) - Too small spacing in compare with your other spacing to the same slider on down beats
  2. 00:20:380 (2,3) - ehh something goes wrong here, I think you forgot to add one circle lul ok this is not an error, but this is really strange and awkward to play, especially in Hard difficulty, I think you should just make triple here and follow actual beats or drums whatever
  3. 01:20:156 (5,6) - Too small spacing here, seems too close to each other and clumsy at all
Some of your spacing choices seem not good for me, like it's pretty random I would say: somewhere you do jumps on certain sliders, somewhere not, somewhere you do jumps on non-extra circles etc, but in general seems fine so good job!!

Kaedeka's Insane:

Pretty clean and save mapping, gj!

Future:

  1. 01:26:648 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Why no jump stream like all previous?
Everything else is fine too!



Now you see why I choosed 2 maps at once xd

GL!
Eir_DELETED
Eir_DELETED
@kunka
im keeping the stuff about 1/2 rhythm pattern now since i dont have any good ideas than present one.

@Pota-Mon
applied it

@Winter Story
fixed only first mention, as i think dont need to fix them since they are not my preference

@MashaSG
fixed only first one. but im not sure about 01:21:947 (3,4,5) - . probably like this rhythm pattern isnt permitted on easy diff?

thanks all!!!

change log
- chose combo colors on my diff
- raised DS from x0.95 to x1.00 for adjustment of diff spread

*1.41
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 73327
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 16126,30454,59111,73439,87768,102096
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.9

[Metadata]
Title:Kimi to Tsukuru mou Hitotsu no Mirai
TitleUnicode:君とつくるもうひとつの未来
Artist:AiRI
ArtistUnicode:AiRI
Creator:My Angel Azusa
Version:joker's Easy
Source:ここから夏のイノセンス！
Tags:sahuang narcissu joker- mei KaedekaShizuru Clochette Kokokara Natsu no Innocence op galgame eroge
BeatmapID:1366198
BeatmapSetID:643715

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:2
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:2
ApproachRate:3
SliderMultiplier:0.95
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg4.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,255,111
Combo2 : 255,121,188
Combo3 : 66,255,66
Combo4 : 43,255,255

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Narcissu
1,744 posts
Joined August 2012
Narcissu
@kunka：i want to use jump, so i skip 1/4

Pata-Mon wrote:

[Hard]
  1. 00:15:678 (6) - hard里不是很有必要放的东西．虽说是打头就可以和1/2区别不大，但实际上会给这难度的玩家带来读图上的疑惑．而且我不觉得这个音真的有必要放这种特殊梗…… 這很普通 。。
  2. 00:16:798 (2,3,4) - 00:20:380 (2,3) - 00:23:962 (2,3,4) - 00:27:544 (2,3) - 虽说是三二三二有规律的顺序，但还是建议统一节奏，因为本来00:20:603 - 等地的音其实就比较响，如果不跟的话也应该统一否则会很奇怪．最好还是全都放上三连，一定要用二连的话也应该在00:20:492 - 等地加上音效，以强调你所跟的轨给玩家以反馈 …… 都一樣太單調
  3. 00:58:215 (3,1) - 这自动堆叠导致的overlap很难看……都隔兩秒了早看不見了
  4. 01:00:230 (6) - 01:03:813 (6) - 01:07:395 (6) - 前面提过，并且这个音我觉得听得很清楚他时值是半拍，蓝线的时候明显还没结束，哪怕不说难度的问题，我也不觉得1/4合适

Winter Story wrote:

Narcissu Hard
  1. Not a fan of these inconsistent spacing. But with the low BPM, I guess this can be tolerated
  2. 00:04:484 (3) - Decrease spacing. The vocals pitch is lower there so increasing the spacing sounded absurd……slider-slider is easy
  3. 00:11:648 (3) - ^
  4. 00:15:678 (6) - I don't know if the blue tick deserves to be a passive beat. A circle fits better here
  5. 00:20:380 (2,3) - A bit unexpected when you suddenly use two notes instead of three like you always did before …… fix

MashaSG wrote:

Narcissu's Hard:

  1. 00:05:156 (4,1) - 00:12:320 (5,1) - Too small spacing in compare with your other spacing to the same slider on down beats …… In the beginning, I think so
  2. 00:20:380 (2,3) - ehh something goes wrong here, I think you forgot to add one circle lul ok this is not an error, but this is really strange and awkward to play, especially in Hard difficulty, I think you should just make triple here and follow actual beats or drums whatever …… ok
  3. 01:20:156 (5,6) - Too small spacing here, seems too close to each other and clumsy at all …… fix
Some of your spacing choices seem not good for me, like it's pretty random I would say: somewhere you do jumps on certain sliders, somewhere not, somewhere you do jumps on non-extra circles etc, but in general seems fine so good job!!
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Mei
1,053 posts
Joined March 2012
Mei

kunka wrote:

Mei's Normal

  1. 00:42:096 (3) - I think that a flow to 00:42:768 (4) - is improved by ctrl+H.
  2. 01:22:842 (2) - I felt sense of incongruity a little. Because it's pretty vocal follow, I suggest it as follows https://puu.sh/wXRpJ.jpg
  3. 01:26:424 (2) - The 01:26:648 - is the last of a series of lyrics. Therefore, I feel sense of incongruity for a reverse point. try this https://puu.sh/wXRFI.jpg

Pata-Mon wrote:

[General]
  1. EN的spread会比较危险．normal的大ds本身倒还不是问题，但同时加上很多连续1/2的需要移动的clickable物件以及一些过于复杂的节奏就比较难了．


[Normal]
  1. 见General bpm这么低而且1.3也不大
  2. ar5 spread会更好，并且这是比较难的normal，4稍微低了
  3. hitsound过少．这个难度很多地方可以根据跟的音轨来加一些音效，强调所跟的内容，给玩家更强的反馈．比如00:02:917 - 00:03:365 - 00:04:708 - ……这类滑条头没有音效会欠缺一点．
  4. 00:28:439 (1,2,3,4) - 这种地方缺得就更加明显．
  5. 从00:30:454 - 到00:42:992 - 这一段则是finish鼓点过于喧宾夺主，这段音乐比前后两段都轻很多，却用的一样音量，实在有点违和．顺便00:43:663 - 这种地方又是很需要音效但是没有的．
  6. 建议再check下整个难度，多考虑一下hitsound，后面音效问题不再说了基本都是类似的
  7. 00:54:409 (2) - 不是很有必要跟（至少不需要用clickable的东西跟）的音，过于加大了复杂度
  8. 00:58:215 (3) - 换成一个1/1折返或许比较好长滑条好些
  9. 01:17:021 (1,2) - 过于弯曲有点不好看还行
  10. 01:33:812 (3) - 这形状在整个难度里看似乎有点突兀
  11. 01:41:424 (3,4,5) - 这样的就实在过难了，尤其是easy非常非常简单的情况下，这个东西可以说完全是hard的级别了考虑到后面hard的摆法，我觉得这里并不过分
others are fixed, thanks for modding!
sikao
osu file format v14

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Title:Kimi to Tsukuru mou Hitotsu no Mirai
TitleUnicode:君とつくるもうひとつの未来
Artist:AiRI
ArtistUnicode:AiRI
Creator:My Angel Azusa
Version:Mei's Normal
Source:ここから夏のイノセンス！
Tags:sahuang narcissu joker- mei KaedekaShizuru Clochette Kokokara Natsu no Innocence op galgame eroge
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KaedekaShizuru
625 posts
Joined January 2013
KaedekaShizuru
kunka
Kaedeka's Insane

  1. 00:15:230 (4) - Because the 00:15:678 - is strong sound, clickable is desirable. I recommend addition of 3/4slider https://puu.sh/wXPjg.jpg that's really a tempting proposal, but here is a demarcation point of prelude, I want a pause
  2. 00:24:186 (6) - I recommend a copy of the 00:24:633 (7) - for symmetry. sure
  3. 00:26:424 (6) - ^ copy of 00:25:977 (5) - no thank you
  4. 00:28:663 (1,2,3,4) - I feel rhythm to be like hard diff. Because there are many sounds, I recommend the change that is suitable for insane diff. For example https://puu.sh/wXPNi.jpg hmmm, in fact my diff is light insane so you see I can't map too hard, thank you
  5. 01:27:432 (2,3,4,1) - tbh, I can watch almost none of the slider :o Because the recognition of the slider is not easy, I recommend a change of the placement. I need more thought , maybe I'll move out for a bit (I can read here maybe because of I'm the creator? lol
  6. 01:46:350 (4,5) - why stack? stack is not used in remaining notes. the same with beginning

巴达萌
[Insane]
  1. 开头音效太小了几乎听不到，稍微调大到能听到的程度吧 我觉得完全OK啊233
  2. 00:28:439 (8,1,2) - 一个滑条后1/4跳之后是一个3次折返滑条，结尾落在重音上，而00:29:335 - 这里又很轻，这读起来打起来都不太舒服，感觉还是把00:29:111 - 这里拆出来个单点好，毕竟前面你都用了滑条跳 好
  3. 00:41:200 (1,2) - sv很慢，3/4长度本身就不太明显，ds又用跟1/2差不多得，这就比较难读出3/4容易放早，建议近点 改回1/2 本来也很犹豫到底放不放3/4
  4. 00:58:663 (6,1) - 反向感觉这样稍微远了一点（跟后面几个比） 当kick无所谓啦超简单的随便一甩就接上了
  5. 01:42:096 (5) - 感觉还是nc下比较好，毕竟类似地方01:27:768 (1) - 也nc（虽然这里肯定得nc）好

thank you for mod
*add combo colour
怎么只有俩
顺便video呢
Nozhomi
Global Moderator
4,568 posts
Joined May 2013
Nozhomi
Hmmmmmmm oh yes.
Hi

[joker's Easy :]
  1. 00:29:559 (4) - Clap should be on the end.
  2. 00:30:454 - I disagree a lot with the rhythm you choosed to use here. You missing a lot of stong beats like 00:32:245 - / 00:35:827 - / etc... who shouldn't be passive due to vocal and drum on them. Also I don't understand why 00:30:454 (1,2) - should have a different rhythm than 00:34:036 (1,2) - , that's inconsistent on it structure. I personnally prefer smth like https://puu.sh/x4gM3/4370c607f6.png who fit more the song overall.
  3. Also if you don't plan to change it for x reasons, at least swap stuff like 00:39:857 (3,4) - to get the vocal beat on 00:40:753 - clickable.
  4. 01:47:469 (3,3) - Why they're different ? They cover the same type of sound.
[Narcissu's Hard :]
  1. 00:15:678 (6) - Are you sure about that ? I would see more a 1/2 slider here. A 1/4 just cut the song in the middle of that 1/4 rhythm.
  2. 00:21:499 (1,2,3,4) - This should use the same spacing than 00:17:917 (1,2,3,4) - / 00:25:081 (1,2,3,4) - , they map the same musical section and should be consistent.
  3. 01:00:230 (6) - Same here about the 1/4, you end on nothing enough strong else than the end of the drum, and 01:00:454 - vocal is way more important to map than this. Also sounds a bit off when you play it. Same for 01:03:812 (6) - / 01:07:395 (6) - .
  4. Maybe some of your triplet could be changed for reverse slider, imo there's a lot of them, a bit too much.
[Kaedeka's Insane :]
  1. 00:01:126 (1) - That's super disturbing to map this who is really quiet and weak, and then skip all the sounds starting 00:01:350 - from here who are much more important. You don't expect that when you play the diff.
  2. The only major issue on this diff is how you handle spacing for your 1/4 jumps on kiai. They looks too much like some of your 1/2 spacing like 01:15:230 (1,2) - . Imo you should reduce a bit them in order to get a better reading about what is 1/4 and 1/2 (look at Future diff too see an example). Also they're super inconsistent (just look at 01:13:439 (1,2) - / 01:14:335 (4,5) - , there's 1.40x difference between them for no reason).
  3. 01:42:208 (1) - Could you end that spinner at 01:45:454 - to give some room before restart the next section ? 1/4 recover is a bit short here imo.
[Future :]
  1. 00:58:551 (4,1) - Could you avoid the small gap ? Imo that's not necessary, the rhythm don't call for it and it don't really fit that type of song.
  2. 01:03:141 (1) - End it on 01:03:365 - , the vocal beat is way more strong and intuitive to play here, and you did a 1/2 here 01:06:723 (1) - for the same sound.
  3. 01:12:320 (4,5) - Vocal stoped to have increasing intensity, so spacing should be the same than 01:12:096 (3,4) - (also feels a bit forced imo but meh).
  5. 01:55:864 (4,1) - Can I ask for a bit less spaced ? ;w;

The video seems a bit edgy at some points, maybe get confirmation it's fine ?
Mukyu~
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Nozhomi wrote:

[joker's Easy :]
  1. 00:29:559 (4) - Clap should be on the end. removed sumpleset:d then added clap
  2. 00:30:454 - I disagree a lot with the rhythm you choosed to use here. You missing a lot of stong beats like 00:32:245 - / 00:35:827 - / etc... who shouldn't be passive due to vocal and drum on them. Also I don't understand why 00:30:454 (1,2) - should have a different rhythm than 00:34:036 (1,2) - , that's inconsistent on it structure. I personnally prefer smth like https://puu.sh/x4gM3/4370c607f6.png who fit more the song overall. Hmm... i preferred current rhythm patterns although as you said, it's more suitable in term of readable by intuition. i changed that you suggested the rhythm on the whole(00:30:454 - 00:44:335 - ). And at the next section(00:44:783 - 00:58:663 - ), i used another rhythm that is placed alternately 1/2 reverse slider and 1/1 slider to avoid monotonousness
  3. Also if you don't plan to change it for x reasons, at least swap stuff like 00:39:857 (3,4) - to get the vocal beat on 00:40:753 - clickable. same as above
  4. 01:47:469 (3,3) - Why they're different ? They cover the same type of sound. since they are consistency with first section (00:07:171 (3,3) - )
thanks for checking Nozhomi~
done
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KaedekaShizuru
625 posts
Joined January 2013
KaedekaShizuru

Nozhomi wrote:

[Kaedeka's Insane :]
  1. 00:01:126 (1) - That's super disturbing to map this who is really quiet and weak, and then skip all the sounds starting 00:01:350 - from here who are much more important. You don't expect that when you play the diff. so here does anything matter?
  2. The only major issue on this diff is how you handle spacing for your 1/4 jumps on kiai. They looks too much like some of your 1/2 spacing like 01:15:230 (1,2) - . Imo you should reduce a bit them in order to get a better reading about what is 1/4 and 1/2 (look at Future diff too see an example). Also they're super inconsistent (just look at 01:13:439 (1,2) - / 01:14:335 (4,5) - , there's 1.40x difference between them for no reason). check the KIAI part and almost fixed, my bad
  3. 01:42:208 (1) - Could you end that spinner at 01:45:454 - to give some room before restart the next section ? 1/4 recover is a bit short here imo. I don't think here is any problem in insane diff
thank you
Narcissu
1,744 posts
Joined August 2012
Narcissu

Nozhomi wrote:

[Narcissu's Hard :]
  1. 00:15:678 (6) - Are you sure about that ? I would see more a 1/2 slider here. A 1/4 just cut the song in the middle of that 1/4 rhythm. …… no, i follow drum .. . ..
  2. 00:21:499 (1,2,3,4) - This should use the same spacing than 00:17:917 (1,2,3,4) - / 00:25:081 (1,2,3,4) - , they map the same musical section and should be consistent. …… i made them more like each other, i think “same” is unnecessary ...
  3. 01:00:230 (6) - Same here about the 1/4, you end on nothing enough strong else than the end of the drum, and 01:00:454 - vocal is way more important to map than this. Also sounds a bit off when you play it. Same for 01:03:812 (6) - / 01:07:395 (6) - .
  4. Maybe some of your triplet could be changed for reverse slider, imo there's a lot of them, a bit too much. …… i agree .. i replace some, but most triplet is 2note + slider, i want to keep dense rhythm :?
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sahuang
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sahuang
All fixed and updated. Also deleted video because it's NSFW....................it's so fking sad
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi

sahuang wrote:

All fixed and updated. Also deleted video because it's NSFW....................it's so fking sad
Sad indeed.

After a quick check, seems offset is a bit wrong. Apply -13 to it (was obvious later than some beats are not correctly snaped to the music like here 00:15:665 - ).

@Narcissu
  1. 00:15:665 (6) - That's not called following drums, that's called doing an extended slider on drum hit. There's no drumbeat on 00:15:777 - . The next evident strong beat is on 00:15:889 - that red tic, and this apply for all other (01:00:217 (6) - this is the most obvious one imo since the drum hit is on the red tic).
@Kaedeka
  1. 00:01:126 (1) - Yes it matters because it would be more obvious for the player to click stuff from 00:01:350 - , so it means move 00:01:126 (1) - to 00:01:350 - and adjust it to fit your map.
  2. 01:17:917 (4,5) - I think you miised to fix that 1/4 gap like others.
  3. 01:35:827 (5,1,2,3) - The stack is quite bad, look -> https://puu.sh/x5Ygy/61850215d7.png = bad / https://puu.sh/x5YhJ/0166db8743.png = good.

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Joined August 2012
Narcissu
i use 1/4 slider follow drum…… same as lfj's diff follow cymbals. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/832841 02:27:045 (1,2) - 02:48:028 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8806881

i will use note replace 1/4slider if you think Hard diff shouldn't be used this way, but 1/4slider better than note imo :?

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Edit：emm .. my dear Nozhomi, you need't not took so much effort to explain, it's only a small problem, i will not resistance.

but .. such as “Never use an other maps as examples. Context is always different.”, this statement is right, and mapper will not acceptable. lfj's mod let me sincerely convinced but you can't. try rank a map with high Fav/Rating/Plays before say “What is good”.

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Title:Kimi to Tsukuru mou Hitotsu no Mirai
TitleUnicode:君とつくるもうひとつの未来
Artist:AiRI
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Creator:sahuang
Version:Narcissu's Hard
Source:ここから夏のイノセンス！
Tags:my angel azusa narcissu joker- mei KaedekaShizuru Clochette Kokokara Natsu no Innocence op galgame eroge
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Nozhomi
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Nozhomi
1. Never use an other maps as examples. Context is always different.
2. There's nothing to emphasis with a small extended slider on drum hit at this point. You skipping a stronger beat than a drum reverb and that's not good! Avoid extended sliders which pass through important sounds. is a guideline close to your case than you shouldn't break here, especially for the hard diff. There's no purpose of doing that.
3. I don't ask to change it for a circle but a 1/2 slider to end on the red tic who is the strong beat.

And ofc for all of them like I said on my 1st mod.
KaedekaShizuru
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KaedekaShizuru

Nozhomi wrote:

@Kaedeka
  1. 00:01:126 (1) - Yes it matters because it would be more obvious for the player to click stuff from 00:01:350 - , so it means move 00:01:126 (1) - to 00:01:350 - and adjust it to fit your map. pls listen carefully. There are 4 tones 1/6 here. NOT ONLY AT 00:01:350 . I don't want to do more explanation
  2. 01:17:917 (4,5) - I think you miised to fix that 1/4 gap like others. ohh yes, sorry
  3. 01:35:827 (5,1,2,3) - The stack is quite bad, look -> https://puu.sh/x5Ygy/61850215d7.png = bad / https://puu.sh/x5YhJ/0166db8743.png = good. but why my here looks all fine ? just in case I move them out one by one and then move back

    OK I know your mean. Fxxking the stacking effect. fixed
thank you
Nozhomi
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Nozhomi
Oki seems fine now :3
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