1. Avarice (4.17 stars, 1657 notes)

Updates

Changed SV from 1.3999999 to 1.4
Some hitsound work and minor changes with help from Shinsekai-
Applied an IRC mod from zigizigiefe
Applied a mod from Alchyr
Applied a mod from Surono
Applied mods from Saturnalize and Axer
Made some changes with advice from Pheon
Some more changes with help from Surono
from Surono
from Nwolf
Made some changes according to Nwolf's mod
Got rid of some more 1/6 patterns that didn't feel right
Big nerf to 1/6 improvizations and reduced the long 1/4 stream before the second kiai time (suggested by Raiden)
A few very minor changes suggested by Jonawaga
Changed diff name from "Solitude" to "Painted In Tears"
from Jonawaga
from self
Changed diff name from "Painted In Tears" (apparently gay) to "Avarice" this is good enough i think
Minor changes and bg change
Re from Jonawaga
by Surono

Surono wrote:

soon(tm)

zigizigiefe wrote:

huh

Shinsekai- wrote:

chat idk why

Alchyr wrote:

mod because

00:00:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Whole opening section feels a bit weird to me, because the k's on every last note don't really have a corresponding sound. I get that it's to avoid being too monotonous, but I think it would be fine to have those as d, since the entire opening is only about 13 seconds long there is a slight pitch increase on the parts where i put k, and it keeps it from getting boring

00:20:220 (62,63,64,65,66) - it's a bit weird mapping the 1/8 sound here, when it's the only 1/8 in the entire song. Maybe just map as 1/4? (besides 01:48:061 (440,441,442) - , but that's only 2 notes and is therefore far easier to play changed it back to 1/6

00:52:266 (280,281,282,287,288,289) - maybe map these first two endings with kdk to emphasize higher volume of 00:54:084 (294,295,296) - with kkk i think ill keep it as is because the parts at the beginning of each "stream" doesn't contain a kkk pattern

04:06:357 (93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104) - rhythm is wrong here, should be
ok, this sounds way better
And as a side suggestion, maybe make 04:07:493 (103) - a k if that's not too tricky to play for this sr to show slight change between each of three times i think i will keep it more simple here

04:28:629 (42,43,44,45,46) - maybe delete dd, since there's no sound there ok

04:53:175 (91) - Feels a bit weird going k k d when the vocal pitch is rising i tended to emphasize more on the piano in most of the vocal sections, and i dont think its that big of a deal either way

05:47:038 (230,231) - maybe make this k d for background sound like 05:43:402 (215,216) - and 05:50:675 (244,245) - oh, that sounds better

plz be worse at mapping so I can actually find more things to comment on >.> ok will do that next time !!

CM Animex wrote:

GooD!!!

Surono wrote:

13sp by u is cursed nub badluckbrien. wheres sv ard frick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

00:32:379 - 00:36:016 - dlt u dem brek 5plet concept >:C , 00:37:266 - ~ 00:43:402 - ya that section grows more intense at the halfway mark at 36 seconds green line

00:44:084 - ~ 00:51:357 - pls neat concept, da flow is complex wat do u mean by this

00:51:357 - ~ 00:56:357 - yeah above but.. da flow isnt complex ^

00:54:993 (298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309) - nub, i tell da truth = 00:56:357 - ~ 00:57:720 - long cream, 00:57:379 - 00:57:493 - 00:57:607 - add d. and 00:58:175 - pls 5plet kkkkD c: was mapping 2 vocal!! but added the kkkkD

01:12:493 - at least d to gib stop sign about da flow the silence where there would be a note if the previous patterns continued on is enough to stop sign i thonk

01:20:448 - 01:34:993 - d D the K is more intense than the finish note at the beginning of this section, and changing it would make it inconsistent!!

01:43:175 - 01:43:629 - with 01:44:993 - 01:45:448 - , so 01:45:220 - dlt ok

01:53:288 - dlt, 01:53:402 - ~ 01:54:993 - nub flow = change to 01:53:402 - kkd ddk kdk from here cuz 01:49:766 - 01:51:584 - kkd before 01:50:448 - this drum - _- so keep ur flow kkd + ddk/kdk/donkadontoakdnawodn ok ok changed pattern

01:54:993 - kkk 1/2 pls, 01:55:334 - wat tis i think its finw..

02:03:743 - dkkd 1/4 511 to 512 is higher pitch, and kddk sounds better to me

02:18:857 - 02:19:311 - why redticks? ;-; u break 1/1 pattern consistency in da next ok deletttttted

02:36:357 - kdkkD but then 74 isnt rlly emphasised on...

02:39:766 - end here and 02:39:993 - d, 02:25:220 - 02:25:448 - oke

02:43:629 - nub flow, 02:44:084 - swap with 02:43:970 - cuz 02:44:084 - ~ 02:44:311 - dkd and 02:44:538 - ~ 02:44:766 - kdk intensifies ok

03:15:902 - ~ 03:16:357 - "da tu daa~" da sounds >:C k d k ok !!

04:21:584 - 04:21:811 - nope denied!! X D(accepted)

05:05:902 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8633627 xd oops forgot to change tht -_ -

05:29:766 - wat, check perviously kiais :"C ok deleted tht note

05:31:811 - idk and otherz about 1/6 u made by urself still cornCen . 05:58:402 - tis better clearly than 02:50:675 - or idk ye D :

idk, no sters. shit !!

Surono wrote:

u

Surono wrote:

stupud surono
find moddors more or I torture you to watch that epiKEK film again ,. - _- i hope wish u be taken (fallinlov) by squidworldtentacle yea


dat planet namex still spamming me ingame @strickluke @saturnalize
rip hanzer preview map

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Saturnalize wrote:

if surono breaks his promise I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL MAKE A MEME OUT OF HIM

2017-07-23 16:45 Saturnalize: ok fuck this internet
2017-07-23 16:46 strickluke: rip
2017-07-23 16:47 Saturnalize: 00:07:720 (17) - I don't think it's necessarily K if you want to follow the bassline, considering it won't really emphasize the cymbal that much
2017-07-23 16:47 Saturnalize: D is enough
2017-07-23 16:48 Saturnalize: "D" is enough :^)
2017-07-23 16:48 strickluke: >//////<
2017-07-23 16:48 strickluke: ye but its super differnt from this one 00:00:448 (1) -
2017-07-23 16:48 strickluke: plus its like a distorted finish instrument
2017-07-23 16:48 Saturnalize: Yeah I hear the pitch
2017-07-23 16:48 strickluke: instead of a big drum
2017-07-23 16:48 Saturnalize: but i think doesn't really matter that much
2017-07-23 16:48 Saturnalize: you do you , still
2017-07-23 16:50 Saturnalize: next, 00:57:720 (318) - 
2017-07-23 16:50 Saturnalize: I prefer this as d
2017-07-23 16:50 Saturnalize: since the note played at 00:58:175 (320) - is higher
2017-07-23 16:50 Saturnalize: assuming you are following that
2017-07-23 16:50 strickluke: ye that sound betr
2017-07-23 16:51 Saturnalize: 01:01:357 (325,326) - etc until the next part
2017-07-23 16:51 Saturnalize: are you really going to be d d all the way
2017-07-23 16:51 strickluke: yes
2017-07-23 16:51 Saturnalize: for that one k d sounds alright
2017-07-23 16:51 Saturnalize: oh okay
2017-07-23 16:51 strickluke: that one u linked doesnt really have any important sound the emphasise on
2017-07-23 16:52 Saturnalize: the chord
2017-07-23 16:52 strickluke: neither do the other patterns, and i also want to keep the rhythm very simple here
2017-07-23 16:52 Saturnalize: okay then
2017-07-23 16:52 Saturnalize: aaaand you're keeping 01:13:175 (331) - as K, doesn't it
2017-07-23 16:52 strickluke: ye
2017-07-23 16:53 Saturnalize: 01:20:448 (352) - is there any intention to put this as k because I think since the piano plays two notes only I'd rather let this d
2017-07-23 16:53 Saturnalize: since the reverb of the piano doesn't really audible
2017-07-23 16:54 Saturnalize: tell me when I can move on to the next object anw
2017-07-23 16:54 strickluke: maybe i should also make that kkd
2017-07-23 16:54 Saturnalize: also possible
2017-07-23 16:54 strickluke: ye ill do that
2017-07-23 16:54 strickluke: ok nex t
2017-07-23 16:55 Saturnalize: 01:22:038 (357,358,359,360,361,362,363) - since you're following vocal, I propose the pattern d kkd dkd
2017-07-23 16:55 Saturnalize: the d emphasize the pitch drop from the very previous note
2017-07-23 16:56 Saturnalize: and you get the idea of kkd dkd
2017-07-23 16:56 strickluke: ye that sound goo d
2017-07-23 16:56 strickluke: n ext
2017-07-23 16:57 Saturnalize: 01:42:266 (418) - I would like to hear this as D
2017-07-23 16:57 Saturnalize: I can hear the kick really pulsing here
2017-07-23 16:57 Saturnalize: what is the correct word anyway
2017-07-23 16:57 Saturnalize: like it's not a really high pitch finish but more to kick-ish
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: bassy may b
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: bass-y
2017-07-23 16:58 Saturnalize: uuum yeah that might be the word idk
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: it makes sense for that to be a D anyways
2017-07-23 16:58 Saturnalize: but that's all
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: because the last used finish was a K
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: and most of the calm sections are back and forth like that
2017-07-23 16:58 Saturnalize: lmao yeah tho
2017-07-23 16:58 strickluke: ok, ur mods don    e?
2017-07-23 16:58 Saturnalize: ok next 01:48:061 (439,440,441,442,443,444) - 
2017-07-23 16:59 strickluke: oh
2017-07-23 16:59 strickluke: oke koe
2017-07-23 16:59 Saturnalize: u wanna keep this simple like this or
2017-07-23 16:59 Saturnalize: u wanna try ddd d d d k
2017-07-23 16:59 Saturnalize: really emphasize the drum part in this one
2017-07-23 17:00 strickluke: i think i like how it is now
2017-07-23 17:00 Saturnalize: while you're at it, 01:49:311 (446) - should be mute
2017-07-23 17:00 Saturnalize: okay
2017-07-23 17:00 Saturnalize: uuuh 02:01:811 (503,504,505) - this can be dkk
2017-07-23 17:01 strickluke: i think tht note isgood for a transition on 1:49
2017-07-23 17:01 strickluke: idk i like pitch increase from 502 to 503
2017-07-23 17:01 Saturnalize: alright...
2017-07-23 17:01 Saturnalize: 02:05:220 (515,516,517,518,519,520,521) - 
2017-07-23 17:01 Saturnalize: kddkdkk
2017-07-23 17:02 Saturnalize: Trying to fit the pitch
2017-07-23 17:02 Saturnalize: than the pattern
2017-07-23 17:02 strickluke: tbh i should delet one of those notes
2017-07-23 17:02 strickluke: how does k dkdkk
2017-07-23 17:02 Saturnalize: then make it triplet
2017-07-23 17:02 strickluke: sound
2017-07-23 17:03 Saturnalize: wait let me try
2017-07-23 17:03 strickluke: 02:05:334 (516) -  there is no note here
2017-07-23 17:03 strickluke: didnt notice that before
2017-07-23 17:03 Saturnalize: k dddkk
2017-07-23 17:03 Saturnalize: the k between d is not really higher than the d nearby so turn it to d
2017-07-23 17:03 strickluke: 01:58:402 (490) -  dem there should be notes here too then
2017-07-23 17:03 Saturnalize: "turn it to d"
2017-07-23 17:03 strickluke: let me go through the piano section and fix rhythm
2017-07-23 17:04 Saturnalize: alright
2017-07-23 17:04 strickluke: then ill update and you continue mod
2017-07-23 17:04 strickluke: rlly quicc
2017-07-23 17:04 Saturnalize: ok bby
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: nvm
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: i just changed that first pattern to ddkdk
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: not that big a difference
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: 01:58:175 (490,491,492,493,494) -
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: ddkdk
2017-07-23 17:05 Saturnalize: wait so i update or not
2017-07-23 17:05 strickluke: nah
2017-07-23 17:05 Saturnalize: ok
2017-07-23 17:06 Saturnalize: ddkdk sounds nice at that place
2017-07-23 17:06 Saturnalize: 02:05:448 (518,519,520,521,522) - but (after adding two noted back there) I prefer this to be dddkk
2017-07-23 17:06 Saturnalize: the last two note should be k to emphasize the rising pitch
2017-07-23 17:06 Saturnalize: not three because it's too much
2017-07-23 17:07 strickluke: i hate dddkk and ddkkk
2017-07-23 17:07 strickluke: so i will make it ddkkd if thats ok
2017-07-23 17:07 Saturnalize: ddddk?
2017-07-23 17:07 strickluke: since the last two notes change in intensity
2017-07-23 17:07 strickluke: 02:05:448 (518,519,520,521) -  first two notes normal
2017-07-23 17:08 strickluke: second two notes intense
2017-07-23 17:08 strickluke: 02:05:902 (522) -  then the last note drops down again
2017-07-23 17:08 Saturnalize: yeah that's why I want to emphazie
2017-07-23 17:08 strickluke: i think i prefer to emphasise it this one
2017-07-23 17:08 Saturnalize: doesn't the piano plays the highest note between those five
2017-07-23 17:08 strickluke: focusing on whats different instead of the same
2017-07-23 17:08 Saturnalize: or dkkdk?
2017-07-23 17:08 strickluke: its low-low-high-higher-low
2017-07-23 17:09 Saturnalize: hmm okay
2017-07-23 17:09 Saturnalize: reasonable
2017-07-23 17:09 strickluke: ogm gr888
2017-07-23 17:09 strickluke: surono leave agian !
2017-07-23 17:09 Saturnalize: 02:16:357 (539,540,541,542,543) - not to be fixed but
2017-07-23 17:09 Saturnalize: k kkk k D :^)
2017-07-23 17:10 strickluke: nice try  !!!!!!!
2017-07-23 17:10 Saturnalize: pls don't sa y you're adding k 
2017-07-23 17:10 strickluke: im not letting satan in through the backdoor
2017-07-23 17:10 strickluke: its all focused on bass this section
2017-07-23 17:10 Saturnalize: it's not through the backdoor
2017-07-23 17:10 strickluke: last section was all focused on piano
2017-07-23 17:10 Saturnalize: It's knocking on your heart door ^_^
2017-07-23 17:10 strickluke: mayb
2017-07-23 17:11 strickluke: if it also means its breaking ym ribs
2017-07-23 17:11 Saturnalize: which is scary
2017-07-23 17:11 strickluke: therefore..
2017-07-23 17:11 strickluke: INTENSE !
2017-07-23 17:11 Saturnalize: YEAH
2017-07-23 17:11 strickluke: nd all players faovirte it
2017-07-23 17:13 Saturnalize: 02:44:084 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - I was expecting for the repeated synth to be emphasized way more here because it's the main line
2017-07-23 17:14 strickluke: it used to be like that
2017-07-23 17:14 strickluke: but it was kind of repetitive and weird to paly
2017-07-23 17:14 strickluke: this version focuses more on which sound is louder
2017-07-23 17:15 Saturnalize: alright
2017-07-23 17:16 Saturnalize: 03:16:357 (228,229) - 
2017-07-23 17:16 Saturnalize: I prefer kdddd to emphasize the snaredrumdrumdrumdrum
2017-07-23 17:16 Saturnalize: kick
2017-07-23 17:16 Saturnalize: I'm sorry
2017-07-23 17:16 Saturnalize: but either way it's ok
2017-07-23 17:17 strickluke: LOl
2017-07-23 17:17 strickluke: that pattern serves 2 purposes too
2017-07-23 17:17 Saturnalize: and that is
2017-07-23 17:17 strickluke: since each section in this song is devided up into two halves prety much
2017-07-23 17:17 strickluke: all of the bookmarked
2017-07-23 17:18 strickluke: that pattern shows how the same thing repeats with slight variations
2017-07-23 17:18 strickluke: and it also emphasises on the snare
2017-07-23 17:18 Saturnalize: I removed all of the bookmark to mark the point I'm going to mod lmao
2017-07-23 17:18 strickluke: xdd
2017-07-23 17:18 Saturnalize: then make (229) d then
2017-07-23 17:18 Saturnalize: ?
2017-07-23 17:19 strickluke: maybe
2017-07-23 17:19 strickluke: sure
2017-07-23 17:19 Saturnalize: 03:23:402 (280,281,282,283) - this is probably the last
2017-07-23 17:19 Saturnalize: why
2017-07-23 17:19 strickluke: tbh idk
2017-07-23 17:19 Saturnalize: the second half has been discussed during the testplay so I won't really bother about that
2017-07-23 17:20 Saturnalize: plays okay either
2017-07-23 17:20 Saturnalize: i mean, go with abrupt stop and change all to d
2017-07-23 17:20 strickluke: ill change that to not have 1/6 haha
2017-07-23 17:20 strickluke: just k d
2017-07-23 17:20 Saturnalize: 03:23:402 (280) - this is where the bass lands so it means the rest should be deleted
2017-07-23 17:21 strickluke: i like the 281 as a transition
2017-07-23 17:21 strickluke: since the rest of this section is mainly focused on drum, and that note mixes the two pretty well
2017-07-23 17:22 Saturnalize: 03:23:629 (281,282,283,284) - it feels like (assuming you did the k d) these are a pattern which I actually don't think so (should be a two different things)
2017-07-23 17:22 Saturnalize: but if you wanna keep it then it's alright
2017-07-23 17:22 strickluke: i could also change the pattern into 1/4
2017-07-23 17:22 strickluke: 03:23:402 (280,281) -
2017-07-23 17:23 Saturnalize: don't
2017-07-23 17:23 Saturnalize: sounds worse
2017-07-23 17:23 Saturnalize: keep it 1/2
2017-07-23 17:23 Saturnalize: lmao
2017-07-23 17:23 strickluke: keeping it then
2017-07-23 17:23 strickluke: : ^)
2017-07-23 17:23 Saturnalize: alright that's it i guess

edited sth that y'all should not read fuck you what do you want to know you CAN'T U CUNT

Saturnalize wrote:

Nwolf wrote:

Popping this for now to get more opinions (aka me asking BNs) on some parts of this map, namely:

Unjustified usage of 1/6 02:28:402 (15,16,17,18) - 02:32:493 (47,48,49,50) - and similar spots. I'm keeping these because they sound and play fine, and they also solve the problems listed two suggestions below vvvv

Also 03:12:720 (199,200,201,202) - 03:19:993 (252,253,254,255) - fixed these, seems better without them

03:53:175 - This stream, together with the previous sections starting 03:40:448 - here. Which are mapped with way more notes than kiai times or other equally/more intense sections of the song. I do not believe this is a problem, since the kiai times have 1/6 patterns along with fairly dense 1/4 patterns to keep pattern intensity fairly high. Especially the last kiai time, which introduces two more elements to the patterns it uses (dense finish notes and 1/6).

Last kiai 1/6. The last kiai time is blatantly different from the first two, so I decided to take a more interesting approach to it. The earlier ones were far less dense in finish notes and 1/6, whereas this one uses them a ton.


And one more thing I just wanna point out as mod at this point:

02:44:084 (24,25,26,27,28,29,30) - Is mapped nearly the same way as 02:29:538 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) - while the song is clearly not equally intense, having more instruments going in one part than the other while melody is the same. changed

04:25:902 (26,27,28,29,30,31,32) - Same ^ ^


Good luck~

Idealism wrote:

irc part where we were talking about 2 of the first notes in the map bc of pitch lmfao

2017-08-08 16:50 Idealism: .
2017-08-08 16:50 strickluke: ye
2017-08-08 16:51 Idealism: ok right off the bat
2017-08-08 16:51 Idealism: 00:00:902 - on places like these you could have a k
2017-08-08 16:51 Idealism: since it's an oni
2017-08-08 16:51 strickluke: in this map i focus on specific instruments in each section
2017-08-08 16:51 strickluke: for the msot part, at least
2017-08-08 16:51 strickluke: in that first one, its hte synth only
2017-08-08 16:51 Idealism: so in that case
2017-08-08 16:52 Idealism: 00:03:402 (8) - should be a d, no?
2017-08-08 16:52 Idealism: because there isn't any change
2017-08-08 16:52 Idealism: plus you're only following the synth
2017-08-08 16:52 strickluke: i made that a k so that it doesnt get boring af
2017-08-08 16:52 strickluke: plus, im talking about mostly rhythm
2017-08-08 16:52 strickluke: color choice is different
2017-08-08 16:53 Idealism: just adding a k for boredom stuff doesn't really make sense for me :p i generally follow the sound that's going and accordingly put a note
2017-08-08 16:54 strickluke: it also follows that background noise when the pitch increases
2017-08-08 16:54 strickluke: on every other red tick there is some wubby noise, and the pitch increases on the place where i put k
2017-08-08 16:55 Idealism: if im not going deaf there's literally no pitch change
2017-08-08 16:55 Idealism: even on .25x
2017-08-08 16:55 strickluke: there is
2017-08-08 16:55 Idealism: because the start of the song has a pretty repetitive rhythm
2017-08-08 16:55 strickluke: kinda hard to hear in editor at .25x, though :p
2017-08-08 16:55 Idealism: and it mantains the pitch through the whole thing
2017-08-08 16:56 Idealism: also yes, every red line is slight higher considering pitch
2017-08-08 16:56 strickluke: oh, right
2017-08-08 16:56 strickluke: volume, then
2017-08-08 16:56 strickluke: the note i singled out is more intense than the rest
2017-08-08 16:56 Idealism: but really, why would you use a random k for one of them
2017-08-08 16:56 strickluke: it sounds fine
2017-08-08 16:56 strickluke: it makes sense, structurally
2017-08-08 16:57 strickluke: i just thought it was pitch, instead of volume
2017-08-08 16:57 Idealism: so in that case, if you're gonna keep what you have, how about you make 00:00:448 (1) - a k?
2017-08-08 16:58 Idealism: it's literally the same thing as 00:07:720 (17) -
2017-08-08 16:58 strickluke: pitch actually increases there compared to the first note
2017-08-08 16:58 strickluke: so i made 17 a K
2017-08-08 16:58 strickluke: and the first ntoe a D
2017-08-08 16:59 Idealism: i just heard it in .25x and .50x, there's literally no difference between both of them, same instrument, same pitch, same everything
2017-08-08 16:59 Idealism: i don't see why 1 shouldn't be a k
2017-08-08 16:59 strickluke: the finish note in the background
2017-08-08 17:00 Idealism: it's present in both and it has the same intensity and pitch
2017-08-08 17:00 Idealism: the only difference that sound has is that it's different after
2017-08-08 17:00 Idealism: but not the moment it happens
2017-08-08 17:01 strickluke: 00:07:720 (17) - go here and press space
2017-08-08 17:01 strickluke: then press down arrow
2017-08-08 17:01 Idealism: the hit itself has no difference, only the sound that follows
2017-08-08 17:01 strickluke: there is a noticable difference
2017-08-08 17:02 Idealism: since you mapped 17 to the hit, you could also make 1 a k since it's also a hit
2017-08-08 17:02 strickluke: the D has a lower pitched, less intense or harsh noise
2017-08-08 17:02 strickluke: the K has a higher pitch, more intense noise
2017-08-08 17:02 strickluke: plus, the next finish note is a D
2017-08-08 17:02 strickluke: so structurally, it goes D --> K --> D
2017-08-08 17:03 Idealism: i get that, but if you listen closely, the pitch difference happens in 00:00:902 - for the first one and 00:08:175 - for the second one
2017-08-08 17:03 Idealism: that's where all of the variation for that happens
2017-08-08 17:03 Idealism: since the notes in question are before these timestamps they really aren't different
2017-08-08 17:04 strickluke: i dont really want to have to go into audacity or something to find out who is right
2017-08-08 17:04 Idealism: since i dont wanna just be stuck on these two notes i'll move on lmao
2017-08-08 17:04 strickluke: xd
2017-08-08 17:05 strickluke: you can send a bunch of suggestions, but i have to go for now
2017-08-08 17:05 Idealism: ok, i'll leave them in the thread
2017-08-08 17:05 Idealism: cya!
2017-08-08 17:05 strickluke: you can just savelog and post for kds after you are done looking through it
2017-08-08 17:05 Idealism: aight
2017-08-08 17:05 strickluke: thanks : p
2017-08-08 17:06 strickluke: wait im dumb
2017-08-08 17:06 strickluke: ok
2017-08-08 17:06 strickluke: send them xDD
2017-08-08 17:06 strickluke: ill just leave osu running
2017-08-08 17:06 Idealism: lmao ok

the actual mod while you were away

[Miss Yo(u)ni]
00:18:061 (52) - i think this could be deleted here in order to keep consistency with the previous identical pattern, or changed to k because it not only sounds and seems to flow better, there's also a very low finish hit there consistency wasn't necessarily the focus on the pattern, and i think it still sounds fine... although i will keep this pattern in mind, or something similar to it, at least

02:10:902 (532,533) - ctrl+g'ing this and moving the finish to the d agrees better with what you're following here (high piano sound for k, intense finish for d)
hmm, i like how this section is for now

02:12:493 (534,535) - move these two to 02:12:834 - and 02:12:948? or adding 2 ds to the latter 2 timestamps? honestly im leaning more towards the latter
because what you seem to be following here isn't 3 sounds but actually 5 seems fine to me

02:38:175 (80,81,82) - k d k plays better here, since the pitch is at its lowest on 02:38:402 (81) - and highest on the other two notes that breaks consistency in a weird way imo

04:19:993 (188,189,190) - ^ ^

05:19:993 (83) - k for the same reasons above a lot of things have changed in this last kiai time to emphasise on the changes between the other two kiai times, and this color choice is justified because it follows the rhythm of the bass/wub and the pitch changes of the piano

05:34:538 (170) - ^

Raiden wrote:

The current dense 1/6 patterning

This has been a change long coming. Removed a lot of the 1/6 patterns in the last kiai times and completely removed that one stream that alternated 1/4 and 1/6 and boosted the sr by like 0.5*.

Raiden wrote:

the long 1/4 stream at the spot he mentioned completely decimates the song.

Deleted a few notes here and there in the 1/4 stream to make the rhythm less dense and more interesting.

Raiden wrote:

Improvisation is fine in taiko when done in a moderate way.

The only remaining improvisations are now less frequent and "moderate".

Jonawaga wrote:

helo, here's an M4M return, just accept what seems good
sorry in advance if this mod contains more questions than answers

ok

1. You can name the difficulty whatever you want because it's a marathon. Changed to "Solitude"
   
2. I think the HP should be more like 6 There will be unnecessary backlash due to this, keeping it as 4
   
3. 00:32:379 (137) - this time it's a connected 1/2 but everywhere else until now it's broken? There is another example of this in the same section, at 00:35:448 (157,158,159,160,161,162,163) -
   
4. 00:37:266 - now all of them are connected ok... why is this happening? did something in the music change? Another instrument is added, so the patterns change to compensate for this
   
5. 01:19:993 (351,352,353) - consider kdd to variate from the previous pattern Denied, as it would deviate from the mapping direction of this section (pitch oriented)
   
6. 02:29:311 (23,24,25,26) - I recommend splitting this stream somewhere around here to emphasize 02:29:538 - this, same where this pattern repeats, for example like what you did 02:35:334 (67,68,69,70) - here is so cool owo eh, i think it's fine as is
   
7. 02:43:970 (23,24,25) - ^, 02:50:107 (63) - remove for that ^ reasoning accepted all but that last one, since it misses a pretty important sound

I realized the main concern is the 1/6, I'm not the best person to ask about that...
so this was probably little help ;w;

best of luck