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Nao Tomori

Mir wrote:

[General]
talked
- 00:52:033 - is this supposed to have a snare cuz there's none in the song

[Easy]

ds is pretty aaaaaaaaaaaaaa can you raise it to 1.0x so they don't touch barely at least like look at this lol

rest is actually good

[Normal]

- 00:24:479 (2,3,4,1) - can do like this so it looks cleaner? http://i.imgur.com/66rikBX.jpg
- 01:39:805 (1) - would be cool if the DUN DUN were both clickable and not just one

good job corinn!!! corinn best girl

[Hard]
- 01:07:522 (3,4) - probably better to avoid changing reverse count in the middle of combo, so maybe remove one reverse from 4
- 01:17:305 (1,2,3) - stopping is actually harder here imo so i think stacking the DUN DUN would be cooler than spacing it, personal minor thing.

[Insane]
- 00:16:489 (5,6,7,8) - 00:06:055 (5,6) - consistency
- 00:31:000 (4) - looks kinda out of place can you maybe mirror 00:31:326 (5) - or something instead?
- 00:35:892 (3,4,5,6,7) - can you polish this star some more? http://i.imgur.com/DWR6AoW.png
- 00:39:152 (4,5) - stronger sounds than 00:40:131 (3,4) - 00:41:272 (2,3) - but very similar spacing, i think 00:39:152 (4,5) - can be spaced more
- 01:02:957 (1,2,3) - visual spacing is off between 1 and 3 compared to 2 and 3
- 01:19:750 (5,6) - flows especially uncomfortable and isn't done elsewhere // 01:28:066 (3) - if you do it you have to do it consistently and not just once in a while
- 01:23:011 (3,4) - worth a slider cuz jumps here don't fit imo, there's no strong 1/2 in the song here
THANK YOU ELITE MODDER MIR ^^
[Flame Haze]
end me already
- 00:04:017 (7) - snap this no
- 00:17:957 (2,3,4,5,6) - why is there never a pattern with a concept like this ever in the intro other than here, it seems arbitrary and inconsistent yes
- 00:38:174 (1,2) - lack of emphasis on snare when it was pretty regularly emphasized beforehand 00:36:544 (5) - made bigger jump?
- 00:49:587 (5,6) - worth a slider imo, the jumps are starting to not really follow anything and it would be cool to avoid that since you've been doing so quite well so far -00:25:783 (3,4,5,6) - 00:54:479 (3,4,5,6) - 00:31:000 (3,4,5,6) - etc etc basically i make 1/2 jumps on those vocals to represent them with cursor movement
- 00:52:196 (5,1) - not obviously 1/4 try ctrl+h 5
- 00:54:316 (2,4,6,2) - kind ew overlapping going on here, can't you do something like http://i.imgur.com/ZVIcTFl.png (better view: http://i.imgur.com/r1pl8W1.png)
- 01:32:305 (1,3,2) - overlap consistency pls // 01:35:076 (2,1,2,1) -
- 01:40:212 (1,2,3) - no. yes.
yea discussed ingame
-Sh1n1-

Mir wrote:

[Easy]

ds is pretty aaaaaaaaaaaaaa can you raise it to 1.0x so they don't touch barely at least like look at this lol haha okie :3 also increased CS to keep the easy Icon :'( because I like owo xd

rest is actually good yaay!
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@Nao: add me on tags :(
Yahuri

Mir wrote:

[General]
[Hard]
- 01:07:522 (3,4) - probably better to avoid changing reverse count in the middle of combo, so maybe remove one reverse from 4 ok
- 01:17:305 (1,2,3) - stopping is actually harder here imo so i think stacking the DUN DUN would be cooler than spacing it, personal minor thing. sure!
thanks~

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Akitoshi

Mir wrote:

[Normal]

- 00:24:479 (2,3,4,1) - can do like this so it looks cleaner? http://i.imgur.com/66rikBX.jpg tried
- 01:39:805 (1) - would be cool if the DUN DUN were both clickable and not just one i buffed the normal so now this is mapped different than before, i hope this gonna b alright w

good job corinn!!! corinn is my wife
thanks!
also i buffed some other parts to make it 2* too

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Mir
I don't trust metadata.

Metadata: http://www.shakugan.com/contents/hp0022 ... 60000.html

Catlogs (lost some of it before cuz I accidentally closed tab):
SPOILER
12:38 Naotoshi: prove it's wrong
12:38 Naotoshi: but i guarantee it isnt
12:38 Naotoshi: cuz gaia got it for me
12:46 Mir: http://www.shakugan.com/contents/hp0022 ... 60000.html
12:46 Mir: next time ask for the source
12:46 Mir: makes it easier for me to confirm it so you don't get a kwan dq
12:46 Naotoshi: ?
12:46 Naotoshi: i wasnt going to
12:46 Naotoshi: its correct
12:46 Naotoshi: i told you already
12:46 Mir: ok but now i know it's correct
12:46 Naotoshi: ..
12:46 Naotoshi: do you not trust me
12:46 Naotoshi: :c
12:47 Mir: i don't trust metadata
12:47 Naotoshi: o
12:47 Naotoshi: also i had the source lol
12:47 Naotoshi: i just didnt write it odwn
12:47 Naotoshi: cuz i was right
12:48 Naotoshi: gaia just confirmed it
12:48 Naotoshi: -_
12:48 Mir: ok

This anime is so bad lmao

Bubbled.
vekt0r
m4m
literally went from wip to bubbled before i could mod pls

Flame Haze:
00:05:239 - unlike the last phrase, there’s actually a strong guitar here that also coincides with a vocal
00:07:522 (2,3) - doesn’t visually fit in with map imo, also overlap doesn’t align with 00:08:663 (6) -
01:06:951 (2) - since there’s a kick drum on 01:07:033 -, you can make this a 1/4 slider, which also helps with readability and still preserves emphasis on the snare
01:35:892 (1,2,3) - maybe increase spacing on these sliders to keep intensity

Naokai’s Insane:
00:05:239 -/01:06:951 (2) - same as top diff
00:06:218 - 00:16:652 (6) - i think these should be clickable, it’s a stronger guitar than others
00:25:131 (6,1,2) - nc on the 6 for consistency with 00:30:348 (1,2,3) -
00:51:055 (5) - this is the only time in this section that you don’t make the downbeat clickable because of the vocal
00:57:576 (1,2,3) - you usually nc on the last note of triples tho
01:32:631 (3,3) - off by a bit

Yahuri’s Hard:
01:07:848 (4,5,6) - the triple is in the second half of the beat, not here
01:09:316 (1,2) - since you’re following the vocal pattern over the percussion the next two times, you should here too
01:16:000 (6) - i think this downbeat should be mapped, especially since 01:15:511 (4,5) - is already following percussion (also misreads)
maybe you could increase note density in second half of kiai by replacing 01:34:913 (3) -/01:37:522 (3) - with two circles, especially since the player already had 01:17:142 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) -

Akitoshi’s Normal:
00:13:555 (3) - i know guitar is stronger on white tick but the vocal extends to the red tick, plus the 1/1 gap to next note is easier to read that way
00:42:739 (2,3,4) - minor; these aren’t quite linear
01:16:652 (2) - you might want a denser rhythm on this for song change; same rhythm as 01:19:261 (2,3,4) - would work (not saying that the song is the same there xd)

Sh1n1’s Easy:
01:17:305 (3) - imo better with two 1/1 sliders for increasing intensity
01:22:522 (3) - maybe use a 3/2 repeat so you can make the downbeat clickable?
01:39:805 (1,2) - would consider replacing this with a 2/1 slider; having two notes plays slightly awkward imo

good luck!
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

vekt0r wrote:

m4m
literally went from wip to bubbled before i could mod pls it was pending in between :^)

Flame Haze:
00:05:239 - unlike the last phrase, there’s actually a strong guitar here that also coincides with a vocal ok but im not mapping the vocals at all
00:07:522 (2,3) - doesn’t visually fit in with map imo, also overlap doesn’t align with 00:08:663 (6) -
01:06:951 (2) - since there’s a kick drum on 01:07:033 -, you can make this a 1/4 slider, which also helps with readability and still preserves emphasis on the snare i dont want to simplify the rhythm to a bunch of 1/2 gaps thats boring
01:35:892 (1,2,3) - maybe increase spacing on these sliders to keep intensity no space lo

Naokai’s Insane:
00:05:239 -/01:06:951 (2) - same as top diff
00:06:218 - 00:16:652 (6) - i think these should be clickable, it’s a stronger guitar than others yea but i dont want the density 2 b really high in the intro
00:25:131 (6,1,2) - nc on the 6 for consistency with 00:30:348 (1,2,3) -
00:51:055 (5) - this is the only time in this section that you don’t make the downbeat clickable because of the vocal 00:41:924 (5) - as well. also, i was trying to preserve kyuukai's rhythm as much as possible, but in some places i thought that a hold on the vocal was too important not to do
00:57:576 (1,2,3) - you usually nc on the last note of triples tho
01:32:631 (3,3) - off by a bit intended :oops:

Yahuri’s Hard:
01:07:848 (4,5,6) - the triple is in the second half of the beat, not here
01:09:316 (1,2) - since you’re following the vocal pattern over the percussion the next two times, you should here too
01:16:000 (6) - i think this downbeat should be mapped, especially since 01:15:511 (4,5) - is already following percussion (also misreads)
maybe you could increase note density in second half of kiai by replacing 01:34:913 (3) -/01:37:522 (3) - with two circles, especially since the player already had 01:17:142 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) -

Akitoshi’s Normal:
00:13:555 (3) - i know guitar is stronger on white tick but the vocal extends to the red tick, plus the 1/1 gap to next note is easier to read that way
00:42:739 (2,3,4) - minor; these aren’t quite linear
01:16:652 (2) - you might want a denser rhythm on this for song change; same rhythm as 01:19:261 (2,3,4) - would work (not saying that the song is the same there xd)

Sh1n1’s Easy:
01:17:305 (3) - imo better with two 1/1 sliders for increasing intensity
01:22:522 (3) - maybe use a 3/2 repeat so you can make the downbeat clickable?
01:39:805 (1,2) - would consider replacing this with a 2/1 slider; having two notes plays slightly awkward imo

good luck!
-_- will see if mir is fine with changes or if he has to rebub
Yahuri

vekt0r wrote:

Yahuri’s Hard:
01:07:848 (4,5,6) - the triple is in the second half of the beat, not here its in both halves. added a triple here for difficulty bump, not burst because thats too hard
01:09:316 (1,2) - since you’re following the vocal pattern over the percussion the next two times, you should here too i have no clue what youre asking me to do, if its why this 01:09:316 (1) is 1/1 thats for difficulty reduction since this isnt that strong of a section
01:16:000 (6) - i think this downbeat should be mapped, especially since 01:15:511 (4,5) - is already following percussion (also misreads) there is already a long stream of notes so the short break here helps give the player a rest. 01:15:674 (5) - this is following vocals btw
maybe you could increase note density in second half of kiai by replacing 01:34:913 (3) -/01:37:522 (3) - with two circles, especially since the player already had 01:17:142 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - dont need to increase density, snares are more important than kicks. the entire second half of the kiai has only 1/2 spacing anyways, so it should be hard enough.
thanks, but no changes
Akitoshi

vekt0r wrote:

Akitoshi’s Normal:
00:13:555 (3) - i know guitar is stronger on white tick but the vocal extends to the red tick, plus the 1/1 gap to next note is easier to read that way extending slider here will play really awkward than to having 3/2 gap
00:42:739 (2,3,4) - minor; these aren’t quite linear is it even noticeable in play lol, welp i'll let nao to fix that when t2 bn came here
01:16:652 (2) - you might want a denser rhythm on this for song change; same rhythm as 01:19:261 (2,3,4) - would work (not saying that the song is the same there xd) not even the kiai/chorus yet
thanks for looking
-Sh1n1-

vekt0r wrote:

Sh1n1’s Easy:
01:17:305 (3) - imo better with two 1/1 sliders for increasing intensity Break here works better as a prelude of kiai, also because there isn't enough.
01:22:522 (3) - maybe use a 3/2 repeat so you can make the downbeat clickable? I know what you want to follow but, the current slider is better in terms of simplification of an easy difficulty.
01:39:805 (1,2) - would consider replacing this with a 2/1 slider; having two notes plays slightly awkward imo both sounds are clickable and deserve a note like some parts of intro.

good luck!
Thanks for your mod.
Mir
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

SPOILER
23:06 Naotoshi: can u rebub
23:06 Mir: what map
23:06 Mir: link it
23:06 Mir: flame haze?
23:06 *Naotoshi is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1354196 Mami Kawada - u/n [Flame Haze]]
23:06 Mir: aa
23:06 Naotoshi: basically
23:07 Naotoshi: the 1/1 intro things
23:07 Naotoshi: i made them skystar patterns
23:07 Mir: what diff
23:07 Mir: .
23:07 Naotoshi: the top diff
23:08 Mir: i won't ask why but next time can you make up your mind before
23:08 Mir: they look fine so i'll rebub
23:08 Naotoshi: huh
23:08 Naotoshi: cuz gaia said they were unreadable
23:08 Naotoshi: and i got like 2 testplays
23:08 Naotoshi: that misread it
23:08 Mir: i forgot what it was
23:08 Mir: oh well
23:08 Naotoshi: .....
23:09 Mir: ok i'll rebub
23:09 Mir: well
23:09 Mir: did you change anything else
23:09 Naotoshi: ncs and stuff
23:09 Naotoshi: its just safer to rebub by now
23:10 Mir: k

Pattern changes, NC, stuff.

Rebubbled.
Gaia
actually b4 this gets qualified can u do sth about 01:40:253 (2) - like a 1/8 triple outta nowhere is whh

just delete the middle circle or change to repeat slider plz ty
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
no. its in the song and everything, even if people play it like a 1/4th triple they'll still fc >:(
Giralda
Lol.
P A N

Giralda wrote:

Lol.
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

P A N wrote:

Giralda wrote:

Lol.
Natsu
General

  1. check if soft-hitwhistle.wav has a delay, since the automod thing is pointing it out.
Flame Haze

  1. 00:33:935 (2) - I think is better to NC 00:33:935 (2) - instead of 00:33:772 (1) - , looks kinda random atm. same in 01:18:120 (1,2) -
  2. 00:39:479 (6,1) - according to your other patterns the NC should be at 6 in the stanza, like 00:34:261 (1) - 00:42:087 (1) - etc
  3. 00:44:696 (1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4) - not a fan of this pattern at all, it does feels weird when playing, in my opinion you should try to get a way to make the pattern more intuitive to play, specially talking about the antijumps and your NCs also don't help tbh.
  4. 00:57:739 (4,1) - again the NCs aren't consistent, for example 00:34:261 (1,2) -
  5. 01:06:951 (2,3,4) - when testing this also feels weird, 2 and 3 should have more spacing than 3 and 4, not only because 3 is stronger than 4, but also the gap between 2 and 3 in the timeline is bigger
  6. 01:32:305 (1) - any reason for this NC?
  7. 01:40:212 (1,2,3) - I really don't agree with this, is the only time you use a 1/8 triplet and it's hard to play, it kills combos or acc, just use a repeat slider :(
Hard

  1. 00:44:370 (5,6) - the 2 beats are strong ones (5 more than 6) why only 6 has different spacing? 01:02:631 (4,5) - same, 01:05:239 (5,6) - this has similar sound, but they don't have any spacing difference, either do mini jumps for every similar beat or for none, because it feels random.
  2. I'd use AR 7,5
Sh1n1's Easy

  1. 00:49:914 (1,2) - Esto si lo debes de cambiar, se mira realmente feo y con el mapa viéndose tan limpio es inconsistente, hace que los dos deslizadores no se toquen, ademas de que tu deslizador 2 queda demasiado arriba del campo de juego y es el único overlap en todo el mapa, si lo debes de cambiar.
  2. HP2 estaría mejor balanceada con los demás ajustes.
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

Natsu wrote:

General

  1. check if soft-hitwhistle.wav has a delay, since the automod thing is pointing it out.
Flame Haze

  1. 00:33:935 (2) - I think is better to NC 00:33:935 (2) - instead of 00:33:772 (1) - , looks kinda random atm. same in 01:18:120 (1,2) -
  2. 00:39:479 (6,1) - according to your other patterns the NC should be at 6 in the stanza, like 00:34:261 (1) - 00:42:087 (1) - etc
  3. 00:44:696 (1,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2,3,4) - not a fan of this pattern at all, it does feels weird when playing, in my opinion you should try to get a way to make the pattern more intuitive to play, specially talking about the antijumps and your NCs also don't help tbh. i changed the ncs a bit.
    i think it's fine to have mixed 1/2 spacing with 1/1, the spacing shouldn't be too high cuz the song gets very calm. players can also play this just fine, i got a lot of test plays.
  4. 00:57:739 (4,1) - again the NCs aren't consistent, for example 00:34:261 (1,2) -
  5. 01:06:951 (2,3,4) - when testing this also feels weird, 2 and 3 should have more spacing than 3 and 4, not only because 3 is stronger than 4, but also the gap between 2 and 3 in the timeline is bigger adjusted a bit, people read doubles like triples imo so it isnt that big of a deal. if it was a distance snapped map i'd agree but it isnt.
  6. 01:32:305 (1) - any reason for this NC?
  7. 01:40:212 (1,2,3) - I really don't agree with this, is the only time you use a 1/8 triplet and it's hard to play, it kills combos or acc, just use a repeat slider :( =( changed to double..
fixed all the nc
Hard

  1. 00:44:370 (5,6) - the 2 beats are strong ones (5 more than 6) why only 6 has different spacing? 01:02:631 (4,5) - same, 01:05:239 (5,6) - this has similar sound, but they don't have any spacing difference, either do mini jumps for every similar beat or for none, because it feels random.
  2. I'd use AR 7,5
Sh1n1's Easy

  1. 00:49:914 (1,2) - Esto si lo debes de cambiar, se mira realmente feo y con el mapa viéndose tan limpio es inconsistente, hace que los dos deslizadores no se toquen, ademas de que tu deslizador 2 queda demasiado arriba del campo de juego y es el único overlap en todo el mapa, si lo debes de cambiar.
  2. HP2 estaría mejor balanceada con los demás ajustes.
-Sh1n1-
All fixed, Muchas gracias Natsu senpai

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Yahuri

Natsu wrote:

Hard

  1. 00:44:370 (5,6) - the 2 beats are strong ones (5 more than 6) why only 6 has different spacing? 01:02:631 (4,5) - same, the second note you pointed out in both places have a finish hitsound on them. the first notes have clap hitsounds. I use higher spacing for the finishes.
    01:05:239 (5,6) - this has similar sound, but they don't have any spacing difference, either do mini jumps for every similar beat or for none, because it feels random. why should i increase the spacing for same-intensity notes? that doesnt make sense imo
  2. I'd use AR 7,5
sure
thanks!

doot
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Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
updated, ready for quali~
Natsu
shana :)
-Sh1n1-
Gratz nao :3
Pachiru
OMG EL DEUS DE LA FELICIDAD, QUIEN ES??? ES EL MANIFICO NAOTOSHIROSO EL PATRON
Surono
naotomori guud bandd
Shunao
too much Naotoshi ><



Grats~
Lasse
soft-hitwhistle.wav is way louder on the left channel than the right one which makes it a bit annoying in gameplay :/
at least it tilted me to a point where it made me open it in audition after playing the map




http://puu.sh/wQ2wz/c82948027f.wav
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori
yup will dq and re-q when i see a qat online

edit: fixed, thanks
Doyak
As per request
Doyak
k I can't find any reference that contains short ver or anything.

Strange though, u/n is included in a single with Serment, and they actually include Serment <TV Size> in http://media.vgm.io/albums/57/33975/339 ... 441905.jpg this album, however no u/n <TV Size> anywhere in the whole soundtracks.

So yeah, I guess it's fine.

References:
http://www.mami-kawada.jp/disco_single_13.php
http://www.shakugan.com/contents/hp0022 ... 60000.html
http://media.vgm.io/albums/70/31207/312 ... 962628.jpg
http://www.shakugan.com/contents/hp0008 ... 00000.html (for the source name)

(anime metadata is hard)
Gaia
u/n is not an official ending that's why

and for the record the tv size for serment should be in brackets too js



yes i have thoroughly stalked this site for the past 3 years if anyone needs shana help i am here
Pachiru
why you changed the wallpaper? ;w;

if its explained, don't answer to this :(
EDIT: im so retarded that i thought u/n was the same map as duet -_-'
Doyak
Gaia
where is that picture from though

from what i know, if it's not published by an official source (website, cd etc) it's invalid
and I'd like to think I've seen every published shana cd in existence lol


whoops convo getting offtopic so meh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Doyak
It's the exact same CD that's on the website, if vgmdb isn't fake lol http://vgmdb.net/album/33975

It's on booklet p. 01~02 http://vgmdb.net/db/covers.php?do=view&cover=151940
Okoratu
[flame haze]
did you forget hitsounds on 00:18:609 (4,5,6) - and 00:27:087 (5) - 00:27:576 (1) - why do these have whistles on their bodies

i assume the entire map looking unpolished and a bit unorganized is your kind of thing so i won't comment on that aspect unless you want to improve it

01:29:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs 01:34:261 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - might just be me but the parts with vocals and drums have more things going on than the parts where it's just drums and vocals are long and held so why are the sections with less going on the harder patterns and hitsounded additively, it would make more sense to me the other way around

00:49:750 (6,1,2) - feels like a pretty odd way to connect two patterns yousually go for back forth movement but this is one of the very few instances where you go for linear movement and i think you should of have stuck to back forths

also your whistle sample is mildly annoying since it doesnt really fit any instrument in particular in the song + there's two on 00:15:348 (3,4) - and i dont understand what's happening or why
Topic Starter
Nao Tomori

Okorin wrote:

[flame haze]
did you forget hitsounds on 00:18:609 (4,5,6) - and 00:27:087 (5) - 00:27:576 (1) - why do these have whistles on their bodies uhh whoops.messed up here when i edit this part after hitsounding.

i assume the entire map looking unpolished and a bit unorganized is your kind of thing so i won't comment on that aspect unless you want to improve it
not quite sure what you mean here, if you mean the fact that everything overlaps and the visual spacing isnt all identical that's on purpose.
if you meant something else please elaborate.


01:29:044 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - vs 01:34:261 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - might just be me but the parts with vocals and drums have more things going on than the parts where it's just drums and vocals are long and held so why are the sections with less going on the harder patterns and hitsounded additively, it would make more sense to me the other way around
this part is interesting to talk about. i dont want to sound like i'm totally bs-ing stuff but basically i don't think back and forth jumps are actually that difficult, like yea the spacing is high but everyone knows that they're significantly easier than most other types of jumps. taking that into consideration, we can also see that the note density is significantly lower in this part (it's all 1/2 spam, but the vocal part has triples, different slider stuff,
etc.) aside from that, the 1-2 jumps are on a guitar thing that stood out a lot to me while mapping, and to me it seems like the vocals are at their climax;
the fact that the note is held out means more exciting stuff should happen imo, rather than something like a 8/1 slider (obviously an exaggeration). hopefully this explanation makes sense, but i'm willing to nerf it if it's still too much of a "diff spike".


00:49:750 (6,1,2) - feels like a pretty odd way to connect two patterns yousually go for back forth movement but this is one of the very few instances where you go for linear movement and i think you should of have stuck to back forths hmm. i disagree, i use fairly similar movements in otheer places too. for example, 00:26:272 (6,1,2) - , which is actually on the exact same phrase in the chorus, or 00:54:805 (5,6,1) - which is somewhat right-angle-esque. aside from that, the spacing is quite low for most of these any way - the uncomfortable (i guess) movement created by a linear angle isn't as pronounced.

also your whistle sample is mildly annoying since it doesnt really fit any instrument in particular in the song idk the point was to be additive,
i think it sounds fine...
+ there's two on 00:15:348 (3,4) - admittedly the one on 00:15:348 (3) - is a mistake, but generally the whistles are supposed to follow the main guitar line that i was mapping to. and i dont understand what's happening or why
well, it's pretty obvious that this entire map was kind of rushed so i'll take it down and work on some more stuff, hopefully you can help me out since i'm not really sure about some of your points. thanks for modding!
Okoratu
as you requested

i know that the back forth jumps are easy as hell to hit doesnt mean that i think they make sense logically as i explained, your explanation seems reasonable enough though so whatever

but incomparison 00:25:783 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - is doing up down movement for the whole pattern even though the last bit of it is more linear and in

whereas in 00:49:261 (3,4,5,6,1,2) - the main movement of the pattern is left->right and suddenly down mostly so i'd argue you're doing different things in both of these and spacing between 1,2 is super small given that most of your patterns are approximately equidistant

as you want to work a bit more on this, the part about the map that kinda feels like a letdown is 01:08:174 - until chorus because you go to the same density as the beginning and the beginning is calm piano section while this section has a higher base intensity so playing it just feels kind of meh if you take the whole map into consideration.

the sv slowdown is fine, the density drop just makes the part kinda :zzz: to me
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Nao Tomori
ok so basically change list:

made first half of 2nd kiai a bit more spaced

changed the linear esque pattern

changed the low sv part to be more dense and spaced a bit more, hope it gives a bit more contrast now.
Mir
ok.

Confirmed changes and made more placement adjustments cuz second kiai transition was super awkward.

Rebubbled.
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