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Protastic101
kawaii seal desu~

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2017-07-13 12:45 Protastic101: :thinking: You free rn? Cause then we could just irc the seal map for bubble
2017-07-13 12:45 Tofu1222: of course we can owo
2017-07-13 12:45 Protastic101: yey
2017-07-13 12:45 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1353986 joeyclassic - seal the 3rd.mp4 [Cute Seal]]
2017-07-13 12:46 Protastic101: 00:01:262 (1262|1,1475|2) - I'd control H these notes so that the overlap occurs on two hands instead of just one which is a bit harder to time
2017-07-13 12:46 Protastic101: 00:04:667 (4667|2,4879|1) - same thing here
2017-07-13 12:46 Tofu1222: oh yep
2017-07-13 12:46 Tofu1222: fixed
2017-07-13 12:48 Protastic101: 00:06:936 (6936|2) - tbh, I think this note can just be moved down to 00:06:901 - because that's where the vocal sample actually begins. Its climax comes slightly later but for simplification purposes I think it's fine
2017-07-13 12:49 Tofu1222: oh i see what u mean
2017-07-13 12:49 Tofu1222: simplicity
2017-07-13 12:49 Tofu1222: fixed
2017-07-13 12:49 Protastic101: 00:08:638 (8638|3) - same thing would apply here
2017-07-13 12:50 Tofu1222: yep owo
2017-07-13 12:52 Protastic101: 00:19:294 (19294|1) - should be on the 1/6 00:19:277 -
2017-07-13 12:52 Protastic101: 00:19:720 (19720|0) - this too
2017-07-13 12:52 Protastic101: 00:18:869 (18869|3) - this is correct on the 1/8 though, so dont worry about that
2017-07-13 12:53 Tofu1222: will these three with different snaps make this hard for players?
2017-07-13 12:53 Protastic101: 00:25:092 (25092|1,25305|2) - control H to avoid overlapping Lns on the same hand. Normally that'd be fine for harder diffs but this is pretty basic so I dont think you should make it too complicated yet.
2017-07-13 12:54 Protastic101: Dont think so. Notes are close enough that they can just play it as one chord
2017-07-13 12:54 Protastic101: or a simple grace will still hit a 300g
2017-07-13 12:54 Tofu1222: lemme try once tho owo
2017-07-13 12:54 Protastic101: I had you simplify the other ones previously cause the sound is hard to discern, but in this case, the sound is obviously on the 1/6 or 1/8, and if you dont snap is as accurately as possible then, it's grounds for DQ
2017-07-13 12:55 Tofu1222: i see your point
2017-07-13 12:55 Tofu1222: yep this place isnt so hard for me tho XD
2017-07-13 12:55 Protastic101: rip lol
2017-07-13 12:55 Protastic101: et player
2017-07-13 12:56 Protastic101: 00:25:092 (25092|1,25305|2) - btw, did you get this or nah?
2017-07-13 12:56 Tofu1222: of course
2017-07-13 12:56 Protastic101: ok
2017-07-13 12:56 Tofu1222: the similar patterns are all fixed according to your opinion
2017-07-13 12:56 Protastic101: 00:28:496 (28496|2,28709|1) - and control H this too
2017-07-13 12:56 Protastic101: o yey
2017-07-13 12:57 Protastic101: feels a bit copy pasted at the end tho :c
2017-07-13 12:57 Tofu1222: lemme tryna rearrange?
2017-07-13 12:57 Tofu1222: or u have any ideas?
2017-07-13 12:58 Protastic101: I mean, it's so short that you don't really notice it so it's not a big issue, but if you wanna rearrange some of the notes, go ahead
2017-07-13 12:58 Tofu1222: ok
2017-07-13 12:59 Tofu1222: 00:24:454 (24454|0) - so here i make this to col 3 (1|2|3|4
2017-07-13 12:59 Tofu1222: and also here00:27:869 -
2017-07-13 13:00 Tofu1222: there to col 2
2017-07-13 13:00 Protastic101: Cool stuff
2017-07-13 13:00 Protastic101: Just poke me whenever you're ready to go onto the normal
2017-07-13 13:00 Protastic101: I've already checked hitsounds and they're all good
2017-07-13 13:00 Tofu1222: ok owo
2017-07-13 13:00 Protastic101: ready then?
2017-07-13 13:01 Tofu1222: yep
2017-07-13 13:01 Tofu1222: all done
2017-07-13 13:01 Protastic101: ok
2017-07-13 13:01 Protastic101: 00:07:433 - to 00:08:284 - If you wanna make this relevant to pitch, I'd suggest something like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8582473
2017-07-13 13:02 Tofu1222: yeah
2017-07-13 13:02 Tofu1222: fixed
2017-07-13 13:02 Protastic101: 00:13:390 (13390|1) - might also move this to col 4 (1->4) to avoid an unnecessary stack with 00:12:964 (12964|1,13390|1) -
2017-07-13 13:03 Protastic101: 00:30:624 - btw, I'd add a note here too so that all your difficulties end off at the same place
2017-07-13 13:03 Protastic101: and similar thing to what I mentioned in the cute seal diff, but it feels copy and pasted in the second half
2017-07-13 13:04 Tofu1222: the above things are all fixed owo
2017-07-13 13:04 Tofu1222: actually the copy paste stuff is suggested by a modder
2017-07-13 13:04 Tofu1222: which told me to keep the pitch relavancy
2017-07-13 13:05 Protastic101: but copy and paste is very D:<
2017-07-13 13:05 Tofu1222: so lemme rearrange too
2017-07-13 13:05 Protastic101: Obviously pitch is important but it shouldn't hinder your variation or playability. That's my take on it anyways
2017-07-13 13:05 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1353987 joeyclassic - seal the 3rd.mp4 [Easy]]
2017-07-13 13:05 Protastic101: only suggestion for this diff is to add a note at 00:30:624 - like the other two diffs
2017-07-13 13:05 Protastic101: ok, update when you've done that, and be sure to remove the hitsound difficulty from the folder because I cant bubble it with that in there
2017-07-13 13:06 Protastic101: Oh yeah, and one more thing, I'd increase the hitsound volume to 40% because 30% is hard to hear and get audio feedback for
2017-07-13 13:07 Tofu1222: ok i see your points
2017-07-13 13:08 Tofu1222: for metadata thing i copied from the std set. Should i note this in the introduction page of this map?
2017-07-13 13:08 Protastic101: does the standard set contain a metadata source?
2017-07-13 13:09 Tofu1222: i am not sure
2017-07-13 13:09 Tofu1222: but the std set said that it was copied from the taiko set
2017-07-13 13:09 Protastic101: seems like there isn't
2017-07-13 13:09 Tofu1222: X3
2017-07-13 13:09 Protastic101: I think it should be fine though because there's no real source for it as far as I can tell
2017-07-13 13:10 Tofu1222: yep XD
2017-07-13 13:10 Protastic101: a youtube video is all I can find but it's not even by the artist lol
2017-07-13 13:10 Protastic101: so yeah, leave metadata as is now
2017-07-13 13:10 Protastic101: poke me when you've updated everything
2017-07-13 13:10 Tofu1222: ok owo
2017-07-13 13:12 Tofu1222: done
2017-07-13 13:12 Tofu1222: hitsound volume is also changed for all
2017-07-13 13:12 Protastic101: yay
2017-07-13 13:15 Protastic101: Alright, so is there anything else you wanna change or am I cool to bubble?
2017-07-13 13:15 Tofu1222: ready to bub i think owo XDDDDD
2017-07-13 13:15 Protastic101: ok, cool stuff then, lemme post
2017-07-13 13:15 Tofu1222: XDD yep thanks
Virtue-
how?!?!??!?!??!
Surono
Intelli's meems
Syadow-
syet i'm late :'
Umo-
rank when
Rivals_7
1234
do you have any metadata sauce for this?

[E]

k regardless the SR, the gap is kinda questionable since easy only features 1/1 while Normal uses 1/4 3plet and sometimes 4plet in a form of minitrill.
while i have nothing to say about this diff, you might need to add some notes on 1/2 snap

ex: 00:01:901 - https://puu.sh/wKGrk/0a80631918.jpg

[N]

00:02:539 (2539|1,2752|2) - swap for PR

00:17:220 (17220|3) - can turn this into LN for trumpet

00:18:284 (18284|1,18496|3) - 4|1. PR too

00:23:177 (23177|1) - could into LN as well

00:26:369 (26369|1,26581|2) - looks familiar


[H]

00:09:560 (9560|3) - maybe on 1 looks more balance

00:07:433 (7433|3,7645|2,7858|0,8071|1,8284|2) - 00:11:050 (11050|2,11262|1,11475|2,11688|3) - rip PR tho
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

Rivals_7 wrote:

1234
do you have any metadata sauce for this?

[E]

k regardless the SR, the gap is kinda questionable since easy only features 1/1 while Normal uses 1/4 3plet and sometimes 4plet in a form of minitrill.
while i have nothing to say about this diff, you might need to add some notes on 1/2 snap

ex: 00:01:901 - https://puu.sh/wKGrk/0a80631918.jpg

I added notes on 1/2 for the beginning and ending part, as well as one part in the middle where there are lots of 1/4 notes in normal to decrease the gap between E and N.

[N]

00:02:539 (2539|1,2752|2) - swap for PR

00:17:220 (17220|3) - can turn this into LN for trumpet

00:18:284 (18284|1,18496|3) - 4|1. PR too

00:23:177 (23177|1) - could into LN as well

00:26:369 (26369|1,26581|2) - looks familiar


[H]

00:09:560 (9560|3) - maybe on 1 looks more balance

00:07:433 (7433|3,7645|2,7858|0,8071|1,8284|2) - 00:11:050 (11050|2,11262|1,11475|2,11688|3) - rip PR tho
For the rest of the mods, All fixed! Thanks!

Metadata is taken from Starrstyx's set. Anyway, the original video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gpIu9XDHYI
Otosaka-Yu
xian ti zao congratz
Let's welcome the new osu! Congratz Manager, a congratzer from China, -[Apple]- !
HXJ_Crafter
占地方

Let's welcome the new osu! Congratz Manager, a congratzer from China, -[Apple]- !

↓↓↓↓ congratz in advance ↓↓↓↓
Rivals_7
well then
Otosaka-Yu

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

congratz
Venix
nice choice of song xD
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

Suzuki_1112 wrote:

congratz
thanks ;)

Venix wrote:

nice choice of song xD
thanks ;)
dkingo
恭喜恭喜
_Zenith
congratz
Secre


rand paul 2016

nice unrankable tags
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

chickenbible wrote:



rand paul 2016

nice unrankable tags
Then u should check this map too lol

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/436250
Ascendance

Tofu1222 wrote:

chickenbible wrote:



rand paul 2016

nice unrankable tags
Then u should check this map too lol

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/436250
We don't use other mapsets as justification for the rankability of our own maps. The tags are irrelevant as they stand right now. :/
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

Ascendance wrote:

We don't use other mapsets as justification for the rankability of our own maps. The tags are irrelevant as they stand right now. :/
Anyway, lemme figure it out.

Yes, it seems to me exactly, really weird that these tags appear in Starrstyx's set and no one spotted that out. I guess it needs to be repaired. I will ask QAT to fix this problem.

Irreversible helped me to fix the tags. No worries now ;)
Akasha-
Hello there, I want to point out some problems still remaining in the map before push it to ranking process

[Easy]
00:01:262 - feeling it's missing something on here, the seal sounds also on here so suggesting to add a note on 3rd
00:04:667 - same on here but on 2nd
00:23:390 - got seal sound on here too, seems you are missing it, add one note on 1st
00:25:092 - 00:28:496 - remaining same problems
00:30:624 (30624|1) - I don't think it's necessary to add a note that's just an echo of the end of this song, not a seal or a clap sound so I'm suggesting to remove it

[Normal]
00:05:305 - how about making this pattern on here for pitch: http://puu.sh/wMEKS/1d4180a910.jpg
00:14:241 (14241|1,14879|1) - they are different pitch comparing to each other, I would suggest to move 00:14:879 (14879|1) - to 1st, it sounds deeper than 00:14:241 (14241|1) -
00:29:135 (29135|1,29241|2,29347|3,29454|2) - suggesting like the previous part
00:30:624 (30624|1) - same problem on easy

[Cute Seal]
00:00:199 (199|3) - it sounds much more longer than you express it should be, extend till 00:00:411 -
00:00:199 (199|2) - move to 1st for hand balance
00:03:603 (3603|1,3603|0) - same like 00:00:199 (199|2,199|3) - but that normal note now should be on 4th
00:06:901 (6901|2) - if you are following this seal sound, then on 1/4 is not correct, it should be on 1/12 (00:06:936 - )
00:07:007 (7007|0) - the length is not corrects too, it should ends on 00:07:220 -
00:08:709 (8709|1) - it should ends on 00:08:816 - as it should be
00:10:411 (10411|1) - ends on 00:10:624 -
00:10:624 (10624|2) - actually ends on 00:10:784 - (1/8) but I would suggest to make it till 00:10:837 - for playable
00:11:050 (11050|2,11262|3,11475|2) - all of them should ends on 1/2 http://puu.sh/wMF8i/f6d5ce0912.jpg
00:12:964 (12964|0) - ends on 00:13:177 -
00:17:220 (17220|1) - it actually should ends on 00:17:645 -
00:17:645 (17645|3) - is wrongly snapped, check carefully with 25% playback rate, it should be on 00:17:699 - (1/8) and ends on 00:17:858 -
00:18:071 (18071|1,18284|2) - the length should be longer, ends on 1/2 as it should be
00:19:277 (19277|1,19702|0) - hmm, I'm not sure on here but I think it's too early, 1/8 and on 00:19:294 - 00:19:720 - is much more corrects to me (You can ask other for confirmations)
00:24:028 (24028|3) - extend till 00:24:241 -
00:27:433 (27433|0) - extend till 00:27:645 -
00:30:624 (30624|1) - same problems with the other difficulties

Well only them I want to point out, most are just suggestions
Good luck.
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Hello there, I want to point out some problems still remaining in the map before push it to ranking process

[Easy]
00:01:262 - feeling it's missing something on here, the seal sounds also on here so suggesting to add a note on 3rd fixed
00:04:667 - same on here but on 2nd fixed
00:23:390 - got seal sound on here too, seems you are missing it, add one note on 1st Here I dont think the seal sounds change the pitch. For example, in the previous two cases, the sounds actaully change pitch as well as the background sounds. But here is only a keep for the previous seal sounds without new element coming in. I'd prefer keep it like that

00:25:092 - 00:28:496 - remaining same problems fixed
00:30:624 (30624|1) - I don't think it's necessary to add a note that's just an echo of the end of this song, not a seal or a clap sound so I'm suggesting to remove it fixed

[Normal]
00:05:305 - how about making this pattern on here for pitch: http://puu.sh/wMEKS/1d4180a910.jpg fixed
00:14:241 (14241|1,14879|1) - they are different pitch comparing to each other, I would suggest to move 00:14:879 (14879|1) - to 1st, it sounds deeper than 00:14:241 (14241|1) - For me they are the same #G sounds so i wanna keep

00:29:135 (29135|1,29241|2,29347|3,29454|2) - suggesting like the previous part fixed
00:30:624 (30624|1) - same problem on easy fixed

[Cute Seal]
00:00:199 (199|3) - it sounds much more longer than you express it should be, extend till 00:00:411 - fixed
00:00:199 (199|2) - move to 1st for hand balance fixed
00:03:603 (3603|1,3603|0) - same like 00:00:199 (199|2,199|3) - but that normal note now should be on 4th fixed
00:06:901 (6901|2) - if you are following this seal sound, then on 1/4 is not correct, it should be on 1/12 (00:06:936 - ) But this is for simplification, yes i know its correct snap arrangement but here it is more ambiguous cuz the sound actually starts at 00:06:901 - but only on the point u mentioned, it forms a complete seal sound. Both can be recognized as 'the start of the sounds'. Prots and I talked about this snap issue before and we finally think that getting the most playable one for this sound would be better, so we keep 1/4 on this.

00:07:007 (7007|0) - the length is not corrects too, it should ends on 00:07:220 - fixed
00:08:709 (8709|1) - it should ends on 00:08:816 - as it should be fixed
00:10:411 (10411|1) - ends on 00:10:624 - fixed
00:10:624 (10624|2) - actually ends on 00:10:784 - (1/8) but I would suggest to make it till 00:10:837 - for playable fixed
00:11:050 (11050|2,11262|3,11475|2) - all of them should ends on 1/2 http://puu.sh/wMF8i/f6d5ce0912.jpg fixed
00:12:964 (12964|0) - ends on 00:13:177 - fixed
00:17:220 (17220|1) - it actually should ends on 00:17:645 - fixed
00:17:645 (17645|3) - is wrongly snapped, check carefully with 25% playback rate, it should be on 00:17:699 - (1/8) and ends on 00:17:858 - for simplification, I would like to keep. If I put it out for a new sound, the previous one should also need a triple, but then the arrangement would be really not so playable.

00:18:071 (18071|1,18284|2) - the length should be longer, ends on 1/2 as it should be fixed
00:19:277 (19277|1,19702|0) - hmm, I'm not sure on here but I think it's too early, 1/8 and on 00:19:294 - 00:19:720 - is much more corrects to me (You can ask other for confirmations) Prots confirmed with me about this snap issue but yep, u raised up this problem too. I am also not that sure about this. Lemme ask Rivals or some other people about this.

00:24:028 (24028|3) - extend till 00:24:241 - fixed
00:27:433 (27433|0) - extend till 00:27:645 - fixed
00:30:624 (30624|1) - same problems with the other difficulties fixed

Well only them I want to point out, most are just suggestions
Good luck.
Thanks for check. Your points are really worhwhile for me. I will ask for a DQ and upload the map while discussing with the 2nd round BNs about the snap issue.
Doyak
Sealed in Pending again, as requested.
JanuszDestroyer
:) owo
Akasha-
You forgot to fix the tags remaining unnecessary
rand paul 2016
Topic Starter
Shima Rin

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

You forgot to fix the tags remaining unnecessary
rand paul 2016
Fixed. (Why it comes back after dq'ed ;w;)
Akasha-
joeyclassic - seal the 3rd.mp4 [OsuMania modding]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

Bubbled

Congratulations!
Protastic101
tfw went to take a nap and forgot this was something I needed to do
Topic Starter
Shima Rin
Thanks KK and Prots helping me! ;)
liaoxingyao
Should Mr.aipao congratz this map
_Stan
congratz :)
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