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sakuraburst - FOLKLORE

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Shiirn
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 8:40:23 AM

Artist: sakuraburst
Title: FOLKLORE
Tags: mir mun plaudible anxient electronic mechanical ambient sakuraburst sample pack 5
BPM: 150
Filesize: 3784kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. anxient's normal (1.62 stars, 68 notes)
  2. conceptualize madness (4.95 stars, 218 notes)
  3. mir's insane (4.27 stars, 195 notes)
  4. mun's hard (3.1 stars, 160 notes)
  5. plaudible's advanced (2.46 stars, 139 notes)
Download: sakuraburst - FOLKLORE
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A legend, a tale, a story to tell,
Of dragons, a princess, of evil to fell,
An age old answer to an age old question,
"Hey, uh, don't you think these sliders are a bit too fast?"


NO.
Ancelysia
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beaw
I'm triggered because there's no long ass spinner at the end for point farming :c
[anxient's normal]
~ Is there a specific reason you switch between sliders on offbeats and then on downbeats...?
01:23:200 (1,4) - Stack my dude
01:30:400 (1,2) - I don't think this is too important, but these are the only two sliders with an overlap in this section. Again, not too important, but just fyi.
01:42:400 (3,1) - Loosen (3) to blanket (1) better.
01:56:400 - Your NC's are super inconsistent from here on out. 02:08:000 - Use the NCing from here and redo the first part.

[mun's hard]
mun's hard... mun is hard...? SHIIRN WHAT ARE YOU DOING PUT YOUR SHIRT BACK ON
This is by far the hardest-to-read "Hard" difficulty I've ever seen
01:19:600 (1,2) - Stack.
01:23:600 - NC this for consistency. All of the other times, you do an NC on the growl. Do the same here.
01:25:200 (2,1) - Loosen (2)'s bottom curve to more exactly match (1)'s curve.
01:29:600 (1,1) - Stack.
01:31:200 (2) - Stack etc.
lmao rip all your patterning ^. Gotta select them all and move 'em.
01:59:200 (2) - Rotate by -45 to complement 01:59:600 (1) - . It's also very covered up how it is now.
02:09:000 (3,1) - So is this a Hard difficulty or what because I have never in my entire life seen a 1/6 spacing between sliders like this...
02:15:800 (1,2) - Snap these to the grid and make them parallel. http://puu.sh/wac7t/9b28389938.jpg.
02:18:400 (3) - CTRL+H and replace. Again, it's really dense in this section and there's a heck-ton of overlaps. You can clear it up a bit.

[mir's insane]
mir's insane... mir is in- okno
01:36:000 (1) - this slider cute af
01:39:200 (1,2) - Stack.
01:43:200 (1,1) - Fix the bottom of this blanket a bit, my guy.
01:47:100 (2,2) - Stack.
01:48:400 (1) - This too ^.
01:57:600 (1,1) - Stack.
02:14:400 (1,2) - Stack?
02:19:600 (1,2) - Stack?

[conceptualize madness]
01:17:200 (1) - Stack this with the rest of the slider. Literally just drag it and let it snap.
01:26:800 (1,2,1) - I really think you should move (1 (the long slider)) down a little to match the visual spacing given by (1 (the short slider)) and (2). 'm assuming you were going for 01:29:000 (1,2,1) - This type of look. If not, ignore this.
01:29:600 (1) - This isn't a change or anything, but please explain why this is on the blue tick? I'm really only curious. Also, this slider reminds me of a staple.
inb4 Shiirn from Staples meme
01:38:800 (1,1) - I believe you should move (1 (shorter one)) closer to the first one. The reason I say this is because during this section of the map, you've been spacing them equally. 01:32:400 (1,1) - 01:35:600 (1,1) - etc. This one seems a bit weird. If you want to fix it, a very simple change would be to CTRL+, and CTRL+J, and replace.
01:39:200 (1) - Oh hey also this isn't snapped to 1/4. Is this deliberate?
01:45:200 (3) - Make the FIRST/MIDDLE curve a bit looser to match the other side. Afterwards, move the LAST/TOP curve to blanket 01:45:800 (2) - better.
01:45:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - While (1,3,5,7) are all snapped and stacked, (2,4,6) aren't the same way. I'm assuming you moved (4) down for visibility/readability, so I think it would be best to unsnap (6) from (2) and move it downward, following the motion as (2,4).
01:45:600 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The spacing in the section is a bit anti-climactic (especially 01:47:200 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ). I think the first set of 9 is okay because you do the same type of patterning 01:48:800 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - here, but with increased spacing. I think you should find a way to increase spacing. If you don't care, you don't have to open up that box.
How *I* would fix it
This is assuming you took 01:45:600 - 's mod!
I would firstly move 01:47:200 (1) - down to around x:310|y:310 for emphasis from 01:46:800 (7,8,9) - this triple.
01:47:600 (3,4,5) -Then, I would snap (5) to 01:46:600 (6) - .
01:48:000 (6,7,8) - I would lastly snap (8) to 01:47:200 (1) - .
01:49:800 (6) - Move this out from so far under the sliders for visibility. I suggest putting it and the end of 01:49:400 (4) - this slider, much like you did with 01:49:000 (2) - . This doesn't mean to remove the overlap though, just to move it out a bit more.
02:07:900 (4) - I really think you should snap this to 02:08:800 (1) - so as not to break the rotating flow.
02:12:000 (2,1) - This spacing is inconsistent with the rest of this part. For this specific sound, you haven't been changing the spacing much. 01:56:200 (2,1) - , 01:59:200 (2,1) - , 02:05:600 (2,1) - , etc. These are all relatively equally distance. However, you have 02:12:000 (2,1) - almost stacked. Again, if you don't care, don't click the box.
How *I* fixed it
02:12:000 (2,1) - Move (1) into the centre of (2) and give it a blanket. I then move 02:13:000 (1) - up, like this.
02:13:600 (1) - Move this to the right a little bit to even out the space between both slider borders. http://puu.sh/waeEg/0984cc69a5.jpg.

[In General...]
The 1/4 spacing/jumps in the lower diffs are really inconsistent. I understand the style of this mapset is quite different than most you'll see, but I still think that the spacing should be a lot cleaner.
MikasaSerket
Sergey_Maslov
In normal you have 150-600 BPM, in other only 150, fix it.
-[ Prxzm ]-


Alright, here we go..

conceptualize madness

01:26:600 (2,1,1) - the pattern itself is good, but it's not lined up accurately. https://puu.sh/woFuS/54a45afc77.png vs https://puu.sh/woG6U/2031c1a2dc.png
01:27:200 (2,1) - fix blanket (you'll probably have to change the grid size to blanket it properly)
01:28:900 (2) - this circle is slightly misaligned from the rest of the group in an inconsistent way.
01:35:200 (4) - move to x:236 y:152 for aesthetic purposes
01:45:800 (2,4,6) - pattern itself is fine, but the direction is inconsistent. move 6 down instead of up.
01:47:600 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this overlap is kind of bothersome, but I'll let you use your best judgment here.
01:57:400 (2,1) - fix blanket
01:57:400 (2,2) - after blanketing, stack these for a e s t h e t i c purposes.
02:07:600 (1,2,3,4,1) - isn't too big of a problem, it's fun to play, but it feels a bit uncomfortable to play. you've set up this curvy motion through the previous section and it suddenly gets multi-directional and snappy. even moving the 4 south-east of its current location just a bit would help the flow.


mir's insane

01:28:500 (3) - nc this.
01:32:800 (1,2,3) - don't start these anti-jumps in the same place the slider ended as it's inconsistent with the last set of anti-jumps. move the circle so it's an anti-jump as well.
01:36:000 (1,2,3) - same here.
01:39:200 (1,2,3) - and here.
01:38:800 (1,1,2,3,4,1) - https://puu.sh/woHct/de95c11643.png this is really cluttered and ugly. change the direction of the anti-jumps.
01:42:700 (2,1) - fix blanket
01:42:700 (2,1) - overlap 2's start with 1's end
01:44:000 (2) - move to x:336 y:148 for blanket aesthetic purposes
01:43:000 (3) - if you follow through with the above, move to x:406 y:276 for aesthetic purposes
01:51:200 (3,1) - beautiful blanket I'm so proud of you :')
01:56:400 (1,2,1) - don't stack circle/slider like this if you've blanketed the circle; overlap the slider with the circle or change the slider's location.
02:12:600 (1,2,3,1,2,1) - flow is a tad off. 02:13:600 (1) - lower this slider so its start is where its end currently is. then fix blanket accordingly.
02:15:800 (1,2,3) - lower 3 so it's not overlapping 1 or stack 3's start with 1's end.

mun's hard
01:19:200 (2) - Although it shouldn't be a problem, I would consider ncing this just for a very slight quality of life adjustment. Wouldn't effect beatmap rankability though.
01:22:400 (2) - nc this.
01:22:800 (1) - dont make this a nc.
01:28:800 (4,5,6,7,8) - probably shouldn't have a stream like this in a hard difficulty, and it interferes with consistency. two sliders and a circle should be fine.
01:28:800 (4) - nc.
01:48:000 (3,4,5) - adjust the spacing of these triplets. it's inconsistent with every other triplet in the map.
01:54:000 (1,2) - change these into a slider.

mika's advanced
01:26:400 (1,2) - fix blanket, it's a few pixels off. might require a lower grid size.
01:28:000 (1,2) - fix blanket (move right a bit)
01:29:600 (1,2) - either nc the two or adjust the first slider to match the upcoming sliders, otherwise it causes a consistency issue.
01:32:800 (1,2) - since you repeat it here i'd just nc the twos. same with the whole section.
01:44:000 (3,4) - holy mother of blanketing fix
01:47:200 (4,5) - blanket (just move the sliderend of four slightly to the right)
02:18:000 (3) - nc.
02:18:800 (1) - delete nc.
02:20:000 (2) - i'd make this a 1/2 slider instead of a 1/1 slider. if you apply the above ncs, nc this.
02:20:800 (1) - if you apply the above change, place this under the sliderend of 2 but don't overlap it for a e s t h e t i c purposes.

Anxient's Normal
01:18:000 (3,4,1) - blanket 3 and 1 with 4
01:18:000 (3,1) - stack these
01:44:800 (3,4,1) - I get what you were trying to do here but it's ugly. just go with the blanketed alternative.

All in all gud map and a pretty balanced spread but blankets need improvement. Good luck with ranking!


xoxo.
-[ Prxzm ]-
mika actually finished a gd? what a shock! (^:
Einja
where's your poem
Izzywing
irc'd top diff, i like it

gonna talk with mir about his and mod the rest later

https://pastebin.com/dc5pZ3pF
^tl;dr, fixed a hanzer stream into a not a hanzer stream, and did something else i forgot

https://pastebin.com/w4WQ56Ct
^irc with mir, tl;dr spaced 1/4 is fine but very overspaced, wub section was also overspaced a bit, and helped daddy wub stand out more
Izzywing
New post because new content

anxient -

01:38:800 (2) - should be 1.3 DS
01:42:400 (3) - 3/2 slider would represent this sound better right? also makes it stand out from the following 1/1 section
02:01:600 (2,1) - could make the movement here a bit more obvious, kinda rough for this kinda diff
02:05:200 (1) - DS randomly got bigger here. same with 02:08:000 (1) -
02:09:200 (2) - DS randomly got smaller here
02:15:800 (2) - this also got randomly big. As a note, this might not be too bad because of the larger timeline gap but I would DS it appropriately regardless.
02:20:200 (2,1) - eh...only stack like this so especially since its at the end of the map i can see this frustrating new players, I'd space it normally

Good diff

mikasa -

couple general things here,

when you increase the SV, the same DS ends up being a lot longer, I recommend shortening the DS for the faster sliders (like 01:22:800 (1) - ) so that it matches the base DS of the map. (easy way to do this is to lower SV back to normal, DS it, then increase SV again)
the problem is compare things like 01:21:200 (3,1) - and 01:27:600 (4,1) - the difference is huge but the timeline gap is the same. make it more clear to help the player read!

01:28:000 (1,2) - blanket, if its intended to be one. i dont point these out unless they're really bad, which this is lol
01:29:600 (1) - this parts pretty calm, you could lower the SV + spacing? optional
01:52:000 (1) - everything after this spinner goes counterclockwise. Please change this so there's some variety in the movement.

Mun -

01:17:200 (1,2,3,1,2) - i dont really get this, why is 01:18:400 (1) - randomly a 1/1 slider when the rest are 1/2? theres no difference here to justify it. Similar issue with 01:24:800 (1,2). The 1/1 itself isn't inherently too bad, but at least be consistent between these two measures.
01:17:200 (1,2,3) - This spacing seems much too excessive. Compare it to 01:23:600 (2,3,4) - for example.
01:35:200 (3,1,1) - I would do something visually to distinguish the stacked 1/2 and stacked 1/4. You could space them different for example, while still making them touch. Maybe stick with using 01:28:000 (1,2) - this spacing for all the 1/4 gaps instead of stacking them.
01:51:600 (1,1) - why do these not touch?
01:57:200 (4) - Feels too short. I can see a player confusing this for a 1/4 slider.

Not entirely sure about the ending there, in terms of difficulty. Testplays by hard players (if you can manage to do that) might be nice.

Get more mods (especially for mikasa's diff once she changes the counterclockwise thing, but be sure every diff gets a couple mods) and then call me back for a recheck. I know you said you didn't think the set needed more mods, but I think it would be for the best moving forward.
Ongaku
hi,

[conceptualize memes]
  1. 01:36:800 (2,3,4) - just looks awkward compared to 01:29:600 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:29:600 (1,2,3,4) - . You should probably stick with the same slider consistency as those two patterns.
  2. 01:57:400 (2,1) - I can't say i'm not triggered by this. Try positioning it between 01:57:600 (1) - 's sliderstart and sliderendreeeee
  3. 01:57:600 (1,2) - aesthetically concerning, mostly 01:58:000 (2) - 's positioning. If you can, try thinking of a better way to make this look better. reeeee
  4. 01:58:400 (1) - Wouldn't this be 1/8 repeat? Listening closely, it can land on the 1/8 parts.
  5. 02:04:800 (1) - Maybe just move it to x:457 y:199?
  6. 02:19:600 (2) - Just to make this less triggering, move it to x:364 y:142. :v
[mir's insane]
  1. 01:26:000 (1) - you were fine up until this point, please remake slider lol
  2. 01:27:600 (1) - can you move this lower, just to keep the consistency of the pattern moving downward?
[mun's hard]
  1. 01:25:200 (2) - shouldnt this be on 01:24:800 - , if we're following the consistency of the last two similar pattern?
k, I've done as much as i could without being triggered by shiirn's overlaps
Mir

Ongaku wrote:

[mir's insane]
  1. 01:26:000 (1) - you were fine up until this point, please remake slider lol - its my style
  2. 01:27:600 (1) - can you move this lower, just to keep the consistency of the pattern moving downward? - shiirn onegai :?
asdf
Ongaku
:eyes:
Topic Starter
Shiirn
to "i don't like circles anywhere on top of sliders except where they bend": denied, my aesthetic choice
to the other stuff: ok
Mun

Hobbes2 wrote:

Mun -

01:17:200 (1,2,3,1,2) - i dont really get this, why is 01:18:400 (1) - randomly a 1/1 slider when the rest are 1/2? theres no difference here to justify it. Similar issue with 01:24:800 (1,2). The 1/1 itself isn't inherently too bad, but at least be consistent between these two measures. The 1/1 slider is not "random," it lowers the rhythm density as the sound it is following fades out. This element is there every time this rhythm is represented, just in different ways to accommodate different sounds like 01:16:800 (1) - and 01:22:400 (2,3) -
01:17:200 (1,2,3) - This spacing seems much too excessive. Compare it to 01:23:600 (2,3,4) - for example. Changed spacing.
01:35:200 (3,1,1) - I would do something visually to distinguish the stacked 1/2 and stacked 1/4. You could space them different for example, while still making them touch. Maybe stick with using 01:28:000 (1,2) - this spacing for all the 1/4 gaps instead of stacking them. No need. The 01:35:600 (1,1) - rhythm pattern has been constantly repeated throughout the song until this point, the player expects that they have to tap basically right as the first fast slider ends.
01:51:600 (1,1) - why do these not touch? why do they need to?
01:57:200 (4) - Feels too short. I can see a player confusing this for a 1/4 slider. Spacing between this and 01:57:600 (5) - is too wide for it to be mistaken for a 1/4 slider. Besides, I think 01:56:400 (3) - gives even the most mentally handicapped of players enough time to process that sliders here are slow.

Not entirely sure about the ending there, in terms of difficulty. Testplays by hard players (if you can manage to do that) might be nice. i'll drop it in a 3 star multi or send it to a rando 200k or sth - mashing through makes it fairly feasible, there is very little movement and the speed makes it very forgiving

Ongaku wrote:

hi,

[mun's hard]
  1. 01:25:200 (2) - shouldnt this be on 01:24:800 - , if we're following the consistency of the last two similar pattern? Fair enough. Changed.
Thanks for modding!

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Hollow Delta
From #modhelp requesting I mod this.

General

Fix Plaudible's tags.

Personally I think your color choice doesn't fit with the background. Just pink and purple alone is too feminine. You could throw in a light-red and maybe it'd work.


Madness

01:36:800 (2,3,4) - While this is still playable, design wise it seems random because of how you mapped it the past 2 times. Here I suggest mapping a variation of 01:33:600 (2,3,4) -

01:39:200 (1,2) - I think this part would look better if the body was parallel to 2.

01:48:800 - Here you should increase the hitsound volume because at the song builds up they get drowned out.

02:01:600 (1,2,1,2) - It'd sound less obnoxious if you muted the slider ends.

02:10:800 (2) - I think this would be better as a perfect blanket.

02:12:000 (2) - The way this is off center doesn't make much sense. Not a blanket, but I think it'd look better aligned properly.


Mir's Insane

01:20:400 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - I think the idea your going for here would be more obvious if you shrink the sv with each color.

01:24:800 (1,2,3) - The only way for your coloring to work is to change up the pattern a bit so it's supported. The pattern seems like a variant of the first part I mentioned, so the coloring at least should be identical.

01:28:900 (5,7) - The 1/4 is very subtle, so I'd bring it out with some hitsounds.

Mun's Hard

01:21:600 (1) - To better show the player this is variation you could place hitsounds on the end and the start. It'll tell them to listen to the beats on 01:22:400 (2,3) -

01:28:800 (4,5,7) - Maybe soft whistle on these to bring them out better.

01:29:600 (1) - While this works, there's a more intuitive way to map it. You could do a more compact shape that way even if the player doesn't know to move with it, they at least know to look out for the speed in the upcoming parts.


plaudible's advanced

01:38:800 (1) - Unsnapped thing

01:28:000 (1) - The slider shape in general is off. At least make the red node perfectly lined up as it looks like that's what you were trying to do.


gl
Mun

Bubblun wrote:

From #modhelp requesting I mod this.

Mun's Hard

01:21:600 (1) - To better show the player this is variation you could place hitsounds on the end and the start. It'll tell them to listen to the beats on 01:22:400 (2,3) - No idea how that works, all it does is make a hitsounding inconsistency. It's perfectly readable as is.

01:28:800 (4,5,7) - Maybe soft whistle on these to bring them out better. Why? There's no reason to bring those out.

01:29:600 (1) - While this works, there's a more intuitive way to map it. You could do a more compact shape that way even if the player doesn't know to move with it, they at least know to look out for the speed in the upcoming parts. Fixed.
Thanks for modding!

code
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beaw
is anyone going to reply to my mod or
Mir

Stingy wrote:

is anyone going to reply to my mod or
Stack x 6012341234 = did something
Blanket = didn't notice problem
Cute slider = thansksfa

replied
beaw

Mir wrote:

Stingy wrote:

is anyone going to reply to my mod or
Stack x 6012341234 = did something
Blanket = didn't notice problem
Cute slider = thansksfa

replied
thanks :3
Halfslashed
[anxient's normal]
01:40:000 (1) - This slider overlaps itself in a way that makes it hard to read the path due to covering its own slider border, especially for the lowest difficulty of the mapset. I know you wanted some variation here, but I think a shape like 01:33:600 (1) - is more appropriate.
01:59:600 (2) - 02:06:000 (2) - Same issue as the above but you'd want to use a different shape.
02:20:200 (2,1) - Slider end stacks are not appropriate for this difficulty level due to the reading difficulty they add. I suggest sticking to your normal distance snap here.

[plaudible's advanced]
01:40:000 (2) - 01:41:600 (2) - Since advanced difficulties fall into the category of Normals, I'm not sure about the readability of these slider shapes. You may want to get more opinions on the rankability of these.
01:43:200 - Overall density of this section unbalances the spread due to lack of 1/1 gaps between objects and continuous chains of sliders. You'll likely need to rework the section to accommodate this, but a good place to start would be perhaps using circles on the upbeats like 01:43:600 (2) - 01:44:400 (2) - exceptions being stuff like 01:45:200 (1) - .
01:52:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - One 1/4 gap is already stressful enough for players at this level, 4 just seems overkill. I recommend doing a slower progression in terms of density here. Try a rhythm like this.
01:56:000 (2,3,4) - I don't changing between stack and DS was properly set up, since you didn't introduce 1/2 stacks in this difficulty. I recommend stacking all of these onto 4's position.
01:57:600 (2) - You're skipping quite a strong sound here to land on nothing. The held sound even ends at 01:58:000 - so I recommend ending this slider here.
02:02:400 (1) - I think a circle fits the snare better than a slider here - this also breaks up this long chain of 1/2.

This is both the coolest and scariest low diff I've ever modded. I recommend you get some play tests just to prove that some of your ideas actually work for this difficulty level, since slider velocity changes like this are really rare. It'd be cool to see a difficulty like this in the ranked section though, so please prove to the world that these ideas work!

[mun's hard]
01:54:800 (1) - This is so weak for an SV decrease despite this being such a prominent hold. I suggest dropping the SV here to create more contrast between this and the previous sliders.
01:58:000 (1) - An SV increase would work better here since there's a lack of contrast between this and the previous slider as is.

[mir's insane]
01:16:800 (1) - I suggest having a higher SV + circular shape to contrast with the upcoming motions at 01:17:200 (1,2) - and prepare the player for the high SV in places like 01:19:600 (1) -
01:38:800 (1) - Since when did you use elbow sliders.
01:44:400 (3,4,5,6,1) - These jumps seem fairly overkill for what you do at later parts like 01:49:200 (3,4,5,6,1) -. I recommend decreasing spacing here since these parts are similar in intensity.
01:57:600 (1) - Cute.
02:11:200 (1,2) - I think arranging sliders like this with higher SV would fit the kicks/wubs better than what you have, and also provide a nice contrast with 02:11:600 (1) -. You can handle the visuals, btw.
02:13:400 (3) - You could ctrl+g this and use it to make a triangle with 02:12:400 (1,2) -. This would result in a zigzag sort of motion rather than a curve so that the player has to go out of their way to hit this rather than along a smooth line, which fits what the wubs are doing better.

[conceptualize madness]
01:38:800 (1) - Compared to the previous sliders 01:32:400 (1) - 01:35:600 (1) - this seems like a movement difficulty spike, since the previous sliders you can play by moving in a straight line, but this one suggests that you should move in a zigzag motion. I think it would fit this section better if you use a shape that didn't deviate as much as this does from being a straight line.
01:58:000 (2) - It'd be cool if you used a straight slider or something with an otherwise shallow curve here to contrast this sound from 01:57:600 (1) -.

Nothing else to say here really. Good luck!
Mir

Halfslashed wrote:

[mir's insane]
01:16:800 (1) - I suggest having a higher SV + circular shape to contrast with the upcoming motions at 01:17:200 (1,2) - and prepare the player for the high SV in places like 01:19:600 (1) -
01:38:800 (1) - Since when did you use elbow sliders. - apparently now xD
01:44:400 (3,4,5,6,1) - These jumps seem fairly overkill for what you do at later parts like 01:49:200 (3,4,5,6,1) -. I recommend decreasing spacing here since these parts are similar in intensity.
01:57:600 (1) - Cute.
02:11:200 (1,2) - I think arranging sliders like this with higher SV would fit the kicks/wubs better than what you have, and also provide a nice contrast with 02:11:600 (1) -. You can handle the visuals, btw. - mm i quite like how it is now :x
02:13:400 (3) - You could ctrl+g this and use it to make a triangle with 02:12:400 (1,2) -. This would result in a zigzag sort of motion rather than a curve so that the player has to go out of their way to hit this rather than along a smooth line, which fits what the wubs are doing better.
Thanks!!!

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reche

[The spread]

okay so this is actually pretty interesting. While there is a gap between the normal and the advanced, I think this gap is required since the jump from the advanced to the the hard is also quite high in difficulty.

I don't think this song can realistically support much more than what is in this spread without being very forced, so I am fine with the spread as is.

[Plaudible]

This diff is a doozy, but I think it's really cool and fits what the song has to offer. I do suggest you nerf a few patterns though.

02:00:800 (1,2,1) - I think this may be too complex to land for this level of difficulty.
02:11:200 (1,2) - because of the spacing i think this is hard to read
02:13:600 (1,2,1)
02:16:800 (1,1,2) - definitely nerf this.

Basically if theres a 1/4 reverse slider in the middle of two sliders, I think that's too much for this level.

Other than that Half's mod addresses most of the issues I also had with it.

Do be sure to get at least a testplay or two from someone at the respective difficulty level, just so we can make sure some of these patterns are okay and fix ones that may be too difficult.

[Mun]

Nothing else, just my difficulty concerns are gone because the advanced is more challenging now.

Rest is fine, call me back when everything is addressed.
Topic Starter
Shiirn
also fixed minor shit related to unrankability issues like unused hitsounds and weird tag conflict that should not have existed (thanks obama) and verifying that, yes, the 1/6 sliders are snapped, and yes, my 1/16 snap slider is not actually unsnapped
Plaudible
@ bub fixed both

Halfslashed wrote:

[plaudible's advanced]
01:40:000 (2) - 01:41:600 (2) - Since advanced difficulties fall into the category of Normals, I'm not sure about the readability of these slider shapes. You may want to get more opinions on the rankability of these. made path more clear
01:43:200 - Overall density of this section unbalances the spread due to lack of 1/1 gaps between objects and continuous chains of sliders. You'll likely need to rework the section to accommodate this, but a good place to start would be perhaps using circles on the upbeats like 01:43:600 (2) - 01:44:400 (2) - exceptions being stuff like 01:45:200 (1) - . dont feel like this is necessary. the later more intense wub-y bits use a lot more 1/4 snapping and slow sv to make the gameplay a little more intense in that sense, i don't feel like this is that difficult in contrast, if anything, easier.
01:52:000 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - One 1/4 gap is already stressful enough for players at this level, 4 just seems overkill. I recommend doing a slower progression in terms of density here. Try a rhythm like this. changed
01:56:000 (2,3,4) - I don't changing between stack and DS was properly set up, since you didn't introduce 1/2 stacks in this difficulty. I recommend stacking all of these onto 4's position. just unstacked lul
01:57:600 (2) - You're skipping quite a strong sound here to land on nothing. The held sound even ends at 01:58:000 - so I recommend ending this slider here. honestly i dont feel like the change in the wub really needs to be clickable, i'd rather have it end where it is and then have the low slow wub have more emphasis since it's the next clickable object in this little section
02:02:400 (1) - I think a circle fits the snare better than a slider here - this also breaks up this long chain of 1/2. there's some 1/1 gaps already closeby, doesn't feel too necessary

This is both the coolest and scariest low diff I've ever modded. I recommend you get some play tests just to prove that some of your ideas actually work for this difficulty level, since slider velocity changes like this are really rare. It'd be cool to see a difficulty like this in the ranked section though, so please prove to the world that these ideas work! i nerfed a few to make it a little more feasible so hopefully it isn't as radically difficult as before :)

Hobbes2 wrote:

[Plaudible]

This diff is a doozy, but I think it's really cool and fits what the song has to offer. I do suggest you nerf a few patterns though.

02:00:800 (1,2,1) - I think this may be too complex to land for this level of difficulty. kk
02:11:200 (1,2) - because of the spacing i think this is hard to read changed
02:13:600 (1,2,1) kk
02:16:800 (1,1,2) - definitely nerf this. kk

Basically if theres a 1/4 reverse slider in the middle of two sliders, I think that's too much for this level.

Other than that Half's mod addresses most of the issues I also had with it.

Do be sure to get at least a testplay or two from someone at the respective difficulty level, just so we can make sure some of these patterns are okay and fix ones that may be too difficult. deskadiddly done and they didnt have any particular troubles reading it, since it follows pretty consistent spacing representation, just playing on some sv gimmicks
ty gois <3
upd
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260,106,122800,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,68,123000,2,0,P|173:117|199:168,1,106.25,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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387,106,125200,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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216,156,126000,2,0,P|161:176|110:160,1,106.25,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Izzywing
https://pastebin.com/6Ai2mxLT

^log of our small converstaion, tl;dr plaudible is incompetent
Plaudible
stop being bully ur incompetenter smh
Izzywing
A legend, a tale, a story to tell,
of Shiirn, his maps, of evil to fell,
An age old answer to an age old question,
"Can Shiirn get any of his maps ranked?"
Topic Starter
Shiirn
yes
Einja
bset poem
Chewin
why did you add sakuraburst also in the tags?
Topic Starter
Shiirn
"sakuraburst sample pack 5" is technically the album name.
Izzywing

Shiirn wrote:

"sakuraburst sample pack 5" is technically the album name.
whoops, missed this. its redundant because if you search sakuraburst it'll show up anyway because its in the title. fix before qualy i guess
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