LwL wrote:

chill map for chill song. Also great hitsounds. thanks!

from my q

1. Maybe lower AR to 9.3 or at least 9.4? It's only 190 bpm so 9.5 seems a bit high. it's not that high at all? it won't make that big of a difference either
   
2. 01:02:072 (3) - the sound on the sliderend here is way stronger than on it's start, you mapped it as two circles before which I think is much more fitting for that reason. the whole section where the guitar plays that melody is mapped the same way, the note in question is a slider before that part as well.
   keeping
   
3. 01:05:862 (3) - ^
   
4. 01:22:283 (1,2) - This pattern emphasizes 01:22:441 far more than 01:22:283, yet the former doesn't really stand out in any way, while the latter does. I think this would be a better fit fits better ye
   
5. 05:03:966 (1,2,3,4) - This is snapped wrong, actual notes occur like this if I'm hearing it correctly. Use 1/8 kicksliders I guess. The blue tick after the first two notes could also be considered to have a note since the sound rather distinctly ends on it, if you used that to make a 1/8 repeat slider the clicking rhythm would be consistent which would probably be nice. the way i mapped it plays really well here i think :/ the 1/8 option doesn't sound very good
   
6. 08:18:492 (1,1,1) - NC spam here is unnecessary imo. it's meant to make the slider length distinguishable, but idk, i need more opinions on this
   
7. 09:25:914 - Isn't there a vocal here? Sounds like the "all" starts here. no. the vocal should start on 09:25:756 according to the later parts so blame M. Shadows for singing a bit late hehe. also it sounds more like it's starting around blue tick, wouldn't play well at all
   
8. 09:36:019 - ^ etc.
   
9. 10:33:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is this so extremely high spaced? To me it sounds weaker than most of the sounds surrounding it, and especially weaker than for example 10:51:019 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - because this is the most intense drum fill in the song and i emphasize that a lot hey jus t look at me usernam

GL~ thank you!

8888 wrote:

hey, m4m from my queue

[Tragedy]

1. 01:00:493 (1) - maybe two 1/4 repeating sliders here instead? the guitar sounds are still quite distinct I actually never noticed the guitar sound there but it's really only because im a drummer and that snare slam is so sick. im keeping the emphasis on the snare
   
2. 01:56:704 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - maybe use some sort of repeating 1/4's here as well? the stream part is quite intense for not-kiai and also the pace of the song would suggest using some slower variations of streams. I wouldn't convert every stream into a slider though, just some of them in the middle of a stream f.e 4 note stream into a slider the same kinds of parts in the song are mapped like this, i don't feel like changing. also this same style appears later on in the song as well
   
3. 02:39:335 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) -
   04:02:704 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - i feel like this stream could represent the guitars/drums in a bit better way, like changing the direction when drum hits and use 1/4s? the first circle is 02:39:335 (1) -
   
   you woulda need to alternate between these 1/4 sliders and direction changes to follow the rythms in a song, obviously o no. this stream part is meant to kill your fingers like it kills the drummers legs
   
4. 03:09:335 (7) - id change this slider into a slighty curved to the left stream but leave the first three notes of it stacked i think it's great as it is,
   i also don't like to stack the first notes much when the stream continues
   
5. 03:20:072 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - maybe use 1/4 repeating sliders here to cover the guitar streams differently from drum streams? same deal as before
   
6. 03:56:546 (2,3) - why is this spaced differently than 03:55:599 (2,3) - ? try to make these spacings equal vocal emphasizes the earlier one
   
7. 05:04:282 (4) - maybe turn this circle into an extended slider with lower sv? not exactly the idea you had but i did put a slider here that maps the guitar sound at 05:04:440
   
8. 05:37:124 (2,1) - i dont like the large rythm gap between these, its not a mistake but it doesnt feel nice imo this is the best way to emphasize how awesome that place in the song is imo. the short pause is amazing and i want to highlight that
   
9. 07:57:098 - this gap is quite awkward as well awkward in what way exactly? there's nothing to map

Nice map! shooting a star, gl thank you!!

Flowziee wrote:

hihi m4m from my queue helo. i'll mod back on monday, working all weekend

First Look
Very nice mapping and streams are amazing. <3 Slider art reminds me of Kite's Uta map. Not a lot of huge errors. There are some questionable errors concerning flow but I'll let that slide. can u elaborate that flow thing..?

IMO, AR is a tiny bit too high while HP is very low. At least change HP to 7. nothing wrong with AR being 9.5. I agree that hp is a little too low but 7 is way too much. Increased to 5.5
For the streams in the entire map, try to add in 1/4 reversing sliders to the streams for variety in exchange for less difficulty. This is just to compensate stream aesthetics with slider aesthetics. no, i want to keep the streams mostly consistently without reversing sliders. i used some reversing sliders at times already anyway
01:59:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Honestly, this shouldn't be any different in spacing than 01:59:230 (7,8,9,10) since intensity of the song here is the same. ?? i don't think yu understand how intense this doublebass ride cymbal shit is that the drum plays. http://i.imgur.com/2uduaMY.gifv won't change
04:28:914 (5) - Works better with the flow if you flip it horizontally in the same position. true
08:48:808 (1) - Use better slider art here to compliment the next hitcircle. tried something
08:50:387 (1) - The sharp stream angle should be 08:50:071 (5) since there is a strong sound here. im pretty sure you meant 08:50:229 (7) instead because that seems more of a stronger sound, and yeah i did change that similar spot in the beginning of the song.

Other than that, I think it's a very well made map which uses simple concepts to its fullest potential. thanks!

ThePotatoAimer wrote:

hi there hello!

00:26:230 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - umm idk why you put a new combo here because on 00:21:967 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) there was no new combo the direction change/important guitar sound
00:41:546 (1,2,3,4) - same that shouldn't be there yes
00:43:756 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - there's new combo here too but not at 00:37:125 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) they are not the same. earlier one has sliders on blue tick, later one on white
02:41:230 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the new combo between streams aren't at an angle like the rest, doesn't give much feedback it is a small angle though. also spacing changes
05:25:756 (7,8,9,10) - didn't new combo this like 05:20:703 (1,2,3,4) but the earlier one had a sharp direction change, this one doesn't
07:07:440 (4) - this doesn't really match the circular flow hmmmmm it flows well though? i don't see a reason to change right now
07:12:177 (1) - i don't know why this is kiai time, it seems as mellow as the section before but it's beautiful, the drummer gets the ride bell involved in this section
07:19:756 (1) - same
07:42:177 (9) - maybe new combo sure
07:56:703 (10,11,12,1) - the spacing here seems pretty big for a 1/4 gap idk, it doesn't seem too big imo
09:09:334 (5) - maybe new combo this like the other streams in the map yeah i fixed some ncs around that section
10:00:493 (5) - make a 1/2 slider? the hitsounds also kind of threw me off (because of the longer length) there's no sound to end it on,
gonna keep it extended like this. also it makes it seem like it's holding the open hi-hat sound
10:01:125 (5) - same
10:33:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - spacing is kind of unexpected, maybe decrease a bit this is the most intense drum solo and culminates the song. i want to keep

this is definitely a really nice map, adding it to my favourites thank you <3

Garden wrote:

glad you request something like this to me <3

Tragedy

1. 00:13:441 (1,1) - minor one and even slider leniency would help avoid 100 but I still suggest you lower the spacing a bit so it doesn't look similar to previous 1/2 rhythm gaps lowered spacing.
2. 00:48:809 (5) - divide combo maybe? you did to other similar spacing changes in this section yes
3. 01:45:651 (5) - consider this rhythm pattern https://puu.sh/wDxvK/d7b927a6c8.png ? it made 01:45:651 - 01:45:809 - better emphasized while playing that's true, sure
4. 01:47:230 (1) - maybe ctrl-g? would make flow more natural imo nice. yes
5. 01:50:072 (1,2,3) - 1->2->3 movement is bit too sharp and requires a quick flow change at 01:50:546 (2,3) - , while the sound itself seems minor, so maybe you can try ctrl-g 3 so it breaks the flow at 01:51:020 (1) alright. i also rotated 01:51:020 (1) and ctrl g 01:51:493 (2) - to make it flow a little better after the change as well.
6. 01:59:546 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I somehow expect a stream with smaller spacing, why do you make it so hard here :\
   as a drummer this double bass + ride cymbal fill going on there is the most awsom shit ever and i want to emphasize that. lower spacing would kill the epicness of it
7. 02:09:493 (2) - minor, make it less curved so it looks similar to 02:09:967 (5,10) - in terms of visual, like 02:05:704 (2,5,10) sure
8. 02:15:178 (2) - whistle on body is intentional or a mistake? it seems the only one that has whistle in this part mistake. I have sliderwhistle disabled so i never noticed. checked the whole map and removed 2 more unintended sliderwhistles xd
9. 02:31:599 (6) - maybe move this note left so spacing from 6->1 can be larger and emphasize the vocal better sure
10. 02:43:441 - how you divide the drums suddenly changes here.. 02:39:335 - to 02:43:046 - is like o x x o x x o x x so 02:43:441 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this part should be redone imo ok i redid that part so it matches the previous one
11. 04:02:704 - ^ uh it seems more disordered here, maybe just me so I'd like to hear your thoughts about them lets be honest i suck at mapping it's unorganized. i remapped it to match the first one
12. 02:45:967 (1,2,3) - make it a flipping of previous combo like 04:08:388 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - so it flows differently? sure
13. 04:50:703 (1,3) - hey i don't usually like mentioning blanket stuff but since it's intended why not just make it perfect fixed
14. 05:18:177 (6,7,8) - shouldn't this be a spaced triplet instead? check your similar patterns o ye it should
15. 06:00:177 (1) - 06:02:703 (1) - if you focus on drums then these notes should be deleted like how 05:57:651 - is skipped i don't think so because 05:57:651 is skipped exactly like 05:47:545 is, focusing on the drum fills. rest of the section needs these guitar notes mapped to keep the section alive
16. 06:07:756 (1) - maybe it's personal preference, I recommend you move this down to around 500,300. since music is going lower pitch i'd like to see movement suggests it too o yes this is great
17. 06:30:177 (3) - the section is quite calm I suggest replacing the triplet with a 1/4 slider though this section is calm indeed, the ride cymbal gets a bit more intense there, also being supported by the guitar playing higher notes there, it could use a triple instead to intensify that
18. 06:36:177 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - similarly, I suggest using simple patterns instead similar response, ride cymbal is builds up and asks for a low spaced stream rather than sliders.
19. 06:45:177 (7) - move to somewhere around 80,340? 06:45:334 (8) - can be better emphasized yeh that's a better idea
20. 08:50:229 (1) - stream should suggest a turn at this note like 00:26:230 (1) - fixed
21. 09:11:545 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - since 09:09:650 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - is same, maybe they should be the same too? sure
22. 09:44:704 (3) - new combo for the slowdown? also cuz 09:44:230 (2) - is covering the slider tick so it's really hard to notice without actually playing but it's 9 mins now ppl would be mad if they break xD true but the velocity is not that high in the first place that it would make the player rush over the slider really quickly and miss the slider tick so i find it unnecessary. I'll leave it unchanged
23. 09:47:230 (3) - ^ make it consistent if you agree with me above
24. 10:00:493 (5) - hey i thought it's 1/2.. you can just make them closer it doesn't hurt visual imo moved
25. 10:33:651 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - great, but could use some more buildups, the stream spacing barely changes before this pattern so it came totally out of my expectation remapped the part, gets more intense now
26. 10:36:335 (5,6,7) - there can be a better alternative to simplify the rhythm, overmapping 1/6 burststream to the coming 1/3 drums is too sudden to me... it's not overmapped though, the drummer does play 1/6 there. also the whole section culminates the song, so for a final fill before outro using 1/6 would be pretty good? leaving it like that right now
27. 10:41:862 (1) - 10% = almost no feedback just increase volume a bit and you are good increased to 20
28. 10:45:966 (1) - delete nc like 10:49:756 (7) - yes

uh since map is super long, some points I raised can probably be applied to other spots too you can get it checked yourself.
And I'm interested in nominating, feel free to poke me for a recheck.

Xayler wrote:

I just had something what came to my eye right now, I hope that it wont be a problem. I just want to make it better.

1. Now by looking at this triplet and the circle, 05:03:966 (1,2,3,4) - it has some weird 1/8 gimmick and imo the 2, 3 and 4 should be a repeat slider just then.
   Just my idea to avoid the 1/8 confusing sounds at the background. (I mean that it has 1/8 sounds so with the repeatslider it wont be so confusing as with circles) wouldn't play nicely.
2. 06:49:440 (1,2,3) - What about equaling the spacing here between these notes? 1,3x for example, very minor. why not, really just some pixels only but whatever
3. 07:25:124 (6) - What about CTRL+G to this slider due to the vocal? You emphasis every slider at that combo so emphasizing it also would be logical. You can then move 07:25:440 (1) - this circle to where 07:24:966 (5) - is so it's basically the same spacing between these notes as it was previously. i don't find that necessary
4. 07:46:756 (2,3) - CTRL+G maybe these circles too? (swap positions) As 2 has actually a sound, but 3 has nothing. With this change the 2 and 3 have basically the same spacing, but this way it's more logical as 2 with a sound is emphasized too. wouldn't flow that well imo

And just a question that why 10:33:651 (1) - this stream here is so spaced? I don't hear anything so hyping in that calm place. i think you must be deaf if you think this is a calm place. this is the most intense drum fill in the entire song which also culminates the whole thing, how is this even remotely calm. reading other mods might be useful at times, i've explained this many times already