SirOxorsid wrote:
Nothing against people who enjoy playing to gain PP but they should be aware that they can't keep it up forever, eventually you will have to actually git gud.
Yet the idea that someone might actually get good by virtue of playing all the time, or even just playing more than they would without "farming", somehow eludes you. There is always a farm map because as you get better, other maps get easier, and therefore "farmable".
Nattsun wrote:
Philosofikal wrote:
This is exactly the dumb kind of shit that is an inevitable result of this community's unhealthy obsession with how you should and should not play the game if you want to be "respected" by a select group of ignorant losers with a sense of unwarranted self importance. Great job spreading poor playing mentalities, guys!
I'm a completely unashamed "farmer". I buy into the PP system completely. You know why? Sure, it has its flaws in map weighting, but I consider the system to be a huge net positive in terms of motivating me to play the game - you know, playing more, the only thing that actually matters and the fundamental message of almost every response to lazy inquiries for advice? The PP system helps set realistic, achievable goals, rewards players for mastering maps and mods they otherwise wouldn't take a second glance at, and helps you track your progress and growth as a player and compare yourself to other players in a fairly accurately objective manner. These are all great positives to the system, it's a huge shame that everyone's elitism due to insecurity overshadows the benefits that using the system to your advantage can bring.
Do you know why I don't respect farmers? They didn't try to accomplish their personal goal, they were all chasing for pp.
Is a higher rank really what you want? Don't you want to FC that certain techmap badly? Don't you want to "git guud" and farm whenever you please?
To each his own I guess.
But, see, that's not really why you don't respect pp farmers.
You don't respect pp farmers because they don't try to accomplish YOUR personal goals, and that's ignorant.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/ar ... 2006-03-20People play games for all different kinds of reasons. Some people play to be part of a community and compete among a group of friends. Some people want to prove that a weird playstyle has viability, or that they can do some oddball thing that nobody else can. Some people want to be ranked as high as possible so they can be seen as better and stronger than their peers. There are all kinds of different reasons to play this game and instead of shaming people for not fitting into neat little boxes of whatever a legitimate player is, we should be fostering a rich, diverse community and encouraging people to find their motivation, whatever that motivation might be, and keep coming back so that this game grows and stays relevant forever.
We lose nothing from having players that like to grind maps that give you an "overweighted" amount of imaginary internet points. But, the only thing we gain from shaming players for doing it is that somebody gets to jerk their little ding dong off about their narrow minded ideology of what a player should be and should do and how cool and smart they are for thinking that way at the expense of having a diverse, welcoming, tolerant community. Who needs that?
The only thing that really matters is that people
find a reason to play more. It doesn't matter
what that reason is, or
how they go about accomplishing that goal. The end, mic drop, th-th-th-that's all folks!