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RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou [OsuMania]

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2 февраля 2018 г. at 13:57:40

Artist: RADWIMPS
Title: Yume Tourou
Source: 君の名は。
Tags: j-pop your name kimi no na wa semyon422 shana lesus [Shana Lesus] theme song ost
BPM: 172
Filesize: 5179kb
Play Time: 02:05
Difficulties Available:
  1. 422's Normal - 8Key (1,94 stars, 581 notes)
  2. Atmosphere - 8Key (4,28 stars, 1309 notes)
  3. Beginning - 8Key (1,45 stars, 343 notes)
  4. Shana's Hard - 8Key (3,24 stars, 899 notes)
Download: RADWIMPS - Yume Tourou
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Normal by semyon422
Hard by [Shana Lesus]


Let's make a sign for when we say "nice to meet you" again
I'm on my way to you, chasing after your name
Meiju
Атмосфера
00:32:336 - звук, поставь ноту

00:39:836 - похоже что здесь нужен дабл, поскольку раньше на подобных местах ты их ставил

00:57:281 - не думаю, что здесь нужен дабл

00:59:641 - 00:59:725 - звуки здесь, хз где ты 1/3 нашел

01:02:506 - 01:02:843 - выдели эти звуки триплами, https://puu.sh/wwrjJ/f507fa2c7c.png - как то так

01:55:596 - здесь 1/4 же
Шанин хард
01:12:281 - раз уж начал ставить на каждой 1/1 ноту на 4, то продолжи до окончания парта (01:13:967)
Сори, мало чего найти могу, мапа почти идеальна :?
Topic Starter
eyes

Mage wrote:

Атмосфера
00:32:336 - звук, поставь ноту да

00:39:836 - похоже что здесь нужен дабл, поскольку раньше на подобных местах ты их ставил да

00:57:281 - не думаю, что здесь нужен дабл оставлю чтобы сохранить систему

00:59:641 - 00:59:725 - звуки здесь, хз где ты 1/3 нашел не понимаю о чем ты, я чётко слышу басс на 1/3

01:02:506 - 01:02:843 - выдели эти звуки триплами, https://puu.sh/wwrjJ/f507fa2c7c.png - как то так да, но немного пр

01:55:596 - здесь 1/4 же тут 1/6 но одна нота лишняя, удалил
Сори, мало чего найти могу, мапа почти идеальна :?
спасибо за мод
Ryzen_old_1

Another Lie wrote:

Req from queue. I apologize if my mod is monotone.
Atmosphere
00:41:755 - add note to 3? same dum
01:05:540 - missing double here?
01:06:214 - ^
01:08:236 - ^
01:08:910 - ^
01:10:933 - ^
01:24:247 - & 01:24:416 - maybe like this https://puu.sh/wEBAT.png
422's Normal
01:07:225 (67225|2,67562|2) - maybe too much 3 here? you should move to col 2 for consistency like you do before
I don't find much here.
Addition for Atmosphere
113573,-33.3333333333333,4,3,1,26,0,0
113742,-333.333333333333,4,3,1,11,0,0
114247,-133.333333333333,4,3,1,11,0,0
i think this map is already prepared for bubble :/
Great guys. Take my star
Topic Starter
eyes

Ryzen wrote:

Another Lie wrote:

Req from queue. I apologize if my mod is monotone.
Atmosphere
00:41:755 - add note to 3? same dum yes
01:05:540 - missing double here? intended for comfortable play
01:06:214 - ^
01:08:236 - ^
01:08:910 - ^
01:10:933 - ^
01:24:247 - & 01:24:416 - maybe like this https://puu.sh/wEBAT.png changed
i think this map is already prepared for bubble :/
Great guys. Take my star
thanks for mod and star! added SVs on Insane diff
Ayya Novak
особо некуда девать кудосу, так что держи парочку

классный мапсет!
Topic Starter
eyes

avalanche wrote:

особо некуда девать кудосу, так что держи парочку

классный мапсет!
спасибо
Salty Mermaid
Here's my mod from my queue

Using 0|1|2|3|4|5|6 to describe the columns.


Atmosphere
  1. 00:33:034 (33034|0) - This note, I can't hear anything that could justify it. And if there is a sound, you should delete it anyway, because I played it on 25% playback rate with the music very loud and I couldn't hear anything.
  2. 00:38:528 (38528|5) - If you put that note for the guitar, it should be at 00:38:557.
  3. 00:38:615 (38615|6) - Can't hear anything loud enough. Delete it.
  4. 00:40:360 (40360|2) - Wouldn't it be better to put it in col 1? Since it's the same sound as 00:40:185 (40185|5,40185|1) -
  5. 00:41:755 (41755|0) - If that Ln does follow the sound I think it follows, it should end at 00:42:104 (42104|6) -
  6. 00:41:232 (41232|6) - Feels weird in this column. Move it to col 0 or 1.
  7. 00:42:627 (42627|5,42627|2) - I think it should only be a single note, since there's only the guitar.
  8. 00:43:194 (43194|2) - I'm not sure what this note is for, but if my thoughts are right, it should be a Ln that goes from 00:43:150 to 00:43:325
  9. 00:43:499 (43499|4) - You should replace that note by a Ln.
  10. 00:48:775 (48775|4) - Same as 00:43:194 (43194|2) -
  11. 00:53:629 (53629|3,53686|2) - Delete those notes and add one at 00:53:658
  12. 00:57:787 This sound is much softer than the previous notes. You could make it a double or at least a triple.
  13. 01:00:483 (60483|2) - Move it to another column. This maybe?
  14. 01:06:214 Make a double here. I think it's ok to have doubles on the drum AND the voice.
  15. 01:06:382 (66382|3,66382|6,66719|3,66719|6,67056|3,67056|4) - I know you are putting doubles for the voice, but I'd suggest to make this 01:06:382 (66382|3,66382|6) - a single note.
  16. 01:08:910 (68910|4) - Double here too.
  17. 01:13:040 Missing a note here.
  18. 01:20:624 (80624|4) - Delete that note.
  19. 01:22:309 Missing a note.
  20. 01:22:478 ^
  21. 01:23:152 - Missing a note.
  22. 01:25:090 to 01:30:146 I guess you voluntarily left col 0 and 6 empty, but it feels weird to me. Like, it feels to tight (sorry I can't find another word). You could remap this section. With the col 0 and 6.
  23. 01:30:146 6 notes? I don't know about that. Maybe just put four or five notes. Just like that 01:35:540 (95540|0,95540|6,95540|2,95540|3,95540|5) -
  24. 01:30:652 (90652|2) - This note is for the voice, right? Well it shouldn't be there, if you want something there, you should instead replace one of those three notes 01:30:483 (90483|4,90483|6,90483|1) - by a Ln, but be consistent, you would have to do this after too, so I just recommand you to delete that note.
  25. 01:35:118 Missing a note here. This could be nice. (green bar is at 01:34:528)
  26. 01:39:922 to 01:40:764 I'm pretty sure (and by pretty sure, I mean sure at 99,99%) that this part is all in 1/4, but because of the sv, I guess you won't do that,uh?
  27. 01:40:933 (100933|6,100954|5,100975|4) - 01:42:281 (102281|4,102302|5,102323|6) - and 01:43:629 (103629|4,103651|5,103672|6) - I'm not saying it's bad like it is, but when I was testing it, I preferred when it was like this
  28. 01:54:500 (114500|5) - Delete that note.
  29. 01:56:270 Add a note for the guitar?
  30. 01:59:809 Same as the other pattern like this.
  31. 02:01:031 Missing a note or two for the same sound as 02:00:989 (120989|1,120989|4) -
  32. 02:01:242 Isn't the guitar sound's here? You should add a note here and delete 02:01:214 (121214|1,121270|2) -
  33. 02:01:663 Again a note for the guitar?
  34. You could end with Lns instead of just simple notes, but really is just a question of preferences.

So I guess that's it! Sorry if it's not much. I hope it'll help!
Topic Starter
eyes

_Stronger_ wrote:

Here's my mod from my queue

Using 0|1|2|3|4|5|6 to describe the columns.


Atmosphere
  1. 00:33:034 (33034|0) - This note, I can't hear anything that could justify it. And if there is a sound, you should delete it anyway, because I played it on 25% playback rate with the music very loud and I couldn't hear anything. fixed
  2. 00:38:528 (38528|5) - If you put that note for the guitar, it should be at 00:38:557. fixed
  3. 00:38:615 (38615|6) - Can't hear anything loud enough. Delete it. fixed
  4. 00:40:360 (40360|2) - Wouldn't it be better to put it in col 1? Since it's the same sound as 00:40:185 (40185|5,40185|1) - for comfortable
  5. 00:41:755 (41755|0) - If that Ln does follow the sound I think it follows, it should end at 00:42:104 (42104|6) - ok
  6. 00:41:232 (41232|6) - Feels weird in this column. Move it to col 0 or 1. ok
  7. 00:42:627 (42627|5,42627|2) - I think it should only be a single note, since there's only the guitar. 2 guitars here also strong sound
  8. 00:43:194 (43194|2) - I'm not sure what this note is for, but if my thoughts are right, it should be a Ln that goes from 00:43:150 to 00:43:325 I clearly hear sound of guitar here
  9. 00:43:499 (43499|4) - You should replace that note by a Ln. k
  10. 00:48:775 (48775|4) - Same as 00:43:194 (43194|2) -
  11. 00:53:629 (53629|3,53686|2) - Delete those notes and add one at 00:53:658 ok
  12. 00:57:787 This sound is much softer than the previous notes. You could make it a double or at least a triple. ok
  13. 01:00:483 (60483|2) - Move it to another column. This maybe? intended jack
  14. 01:06:214 Make a double here. I think it's ok to have doubles on the drum AND the voice. destroys the emphasizing
  15. 01:06:382 (66382|3,66382|6,66719|3,66719|6,67056|3,67056|4) - I know you are putting doubles for the voice, but I'd suggest to make this 01:06:382 (66382|3,66382|6) - a single note. what is the reason?
  16. 01:08:910 (68910|4) - Double here too.
  17. 01:13:040 Missing a note here. yes
  18. 01:20:624 (80624|4) - Delete that note. yes
  19. 01:22:309 Missing a note. I want to emphasize the bass and the voice here
  20. 01:22:478 ^
  21. 01:23:152 - Missing a note.
  22. 01:25:090 to 01:30:146 I guess you voluntarily left col 0 and 6 empty, but it feels weird to me. Like, it feels to tight (sorry I can't find another word). You could remap this section. With the col 0 and 6. yeah actually I use 5K style here for emphasizing guitar and I think it looks fine
  23. 01:30:146 6 notes? I don't know about that. Maybe just put four or five notes. Just like that 01:35:540 (95540|0,95540|6,95540|2,95540|3,95540|5) - deleted 1 note
  24. 01:30:652 (90652|2) - This note is for the voice, right? Well it shouldn't be there, if you want something there, you should instead replace one of those three notes 01:30:483 (90483|4,90483|6,90483|1) - by a Ln, but be consistent, you would have to do this after too, so I just recommand you to delete that note. yep, deleted
  25. 01:35:118 Missing a note here. This could be nice. (green bar is at 01:34:528) it is not audible while playing so I want to ignore this
  26. 01:39:922 to 01:40:764 I'm pretty sure (and by pretty sure, I mean sure at 99,99%) that this part is all in 1/4, but because of the sv, I guess you won't do that,uh? It was mapped before SVs, I want to ignore really not audible sounds
  27. 01:40:933 (100933|6,100954|5,100975|4) - 01:42:281 (102281|4,102302|5,102323|6) - and 01:43:629 (103629|4,103651|5,103672|6) - I'm not saying it's bad like it is, but when I was testing it, I preferred when it was like this subjective thing, I'll keep mine
  28. 01:54:500 (114500|5) - Delete that note. ok
  29. 01:56:270 Add a note for the guitar? ok
  30. 01:59:809 Same as the other pattern like this. ok
  31. 02:01:031 Missing a note or two for the same sound as 02:00:989 (120989|1,120989|4) - ok, will place single note for playability
  32. 02:01:242 Isn't the guitar sound's here? You should add a note here and delete 02:01:214 (121214|1,121270|2) - I'm sure about 1/6
  33. 02:01:663 Again a note for the guitar? ok
  34. You could end with Lns instead of just simple notes, but really is just a question of preferences.

So I guess that's it! Sorry if it's not much. I hope it'll help!
it's pretty much, thanks, very helpful!


Message for next modders:
I use 5K style in these moments 01:24:753 - 01:51:719 and 1+6K style almost over the chorus, so don't be surprised and don't tell me about this, all patterns (I really hope) are intended.
DustMoon
hello,i'm noob modder.
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
422's Normal
00:39:836 (39836|1) - this bass sound,hope you can move to 1
00:51:348 (51348|4,51522|2,51697|4) - FX vol down and down,maybe you can change (5,3,1)
00:52:046 (52046|3) - move to 6,to keeo balance
01:01:832 (61832|1) - why this LN not same 00:56:438 (56438|0) - 00:59:135 (59135|0) - ,i think these same pitch and02:01:158 (121158|1) - reason same
01:03:011 (63011|2) - move to 1
01:18:517 (78517|6,78686|4,78854|2,79023|0) - 01:23:405 (83405|0,83742|2,84079|4,84416|6) - interaction?
01:28:798 (88798|1,88967|5,89135|1,89304|5) - emmm,i suggest you change to (2,6,1,7)
01:44:978 (104978|4) - move to 7
01:46:326 (106326|3,106495|1) - move the whole to the left 1col and01:47:674 (107674|2,107843|0) - Ctrl+h
01:48:854 (108854|5) - move to 5
02:05:034 - add one to 6
Shana's Hard
so beautiful~
02:05:034 (125034|5) - move to 2
Atmosphere
00:28:674 (28674|6,28674|3,29022|5,29197|6,29371|5) - remap? not balance
00:40:185 (40185|1,40185|5,40360|5,40360|2) - Ctrl+h
00:47:511 (47511|3) - move to 2
00:54:585 (54585|5,54585|3,54585|1,54585|6,54585|0,54753|0,54753|3,54753|5,54753|6,54753|1) - 00:59:978 (59978|6,59978|5,59978|3,59978|1,59978|0,60146|3,60146|6,60146|0,60146|5,60146|1) - 01:56:607 (116607|0,116607|6,116607|3,116607|1,116607|5,116776|5,116776|6,116776|3,116776|1,116776|0) - 02:02:000 (122000|5,122000|1,122000|0,122000|6,122000|3,122169|3,122169|1,122169|0,122169|5,122169|6) - too many
01:03:180 (63180|4) - move to 7
01:27:450 - 01:30:146 - no notes appeared in the 1&7col 01:51:719 - 01:53:573 - same reason
your mapset tastes good
Good luck! :)
Topic Starter
eyes

DustMoon wrote:

hello,i'm noob modder.
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|
Atmosphere
00:28:674 (28674|6,28674|3,29022|5,29197|6,29371|5) - remap? not balance ok changed/b]
00:40:185 (40185|1,40185|5,40360|5,40360|2) - Ctrl+h [b]reason? it makes it more disbalance so no change

00:47:511 (47511|3) - move to 2 changed
00:54:585 (54585|5,54585|3,54585|1,54585|6,54585|0,54753|0,54753|3,54753|5,54753|6,54753|1) - 00:59:978 (59978|6,59978|5,59978|3,59978|1,59978|0,60146|3,60146|6,60146|0,60146|5,60146|1) - 01:56:607 (116607|0,116607|6,116607|3,116607|1,116607|5,116776|5,116776|6,116776|3,116776|1,116776|0) - 02:02:000 (122000|5,122000|1,122000|0,122000|6,122000|3,122169|3,122169|1,122169|0,122169|5,122169|6) - too many it plays fine, no change
01:03:180 (63180|4) - move to 7 ^reason?
01:27:450 - 01:30:146 - no notes appeared in the 1&7col 01:51:719 - 01:53:573 - same reason
your mapset tastes good
Good luck! :)
thanks for mod!
Maxus
M4M

[General]
I'm sure your BPM is wrong there, it is not 86 BPM but rather 172 BPM, try to follow BPM from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/597111 , since it's from ranked beatmap, it's trustable source.

[Atmosphere]
00:26:101 (26101|2) - Idk bout you, but personally having 1/16 just to follow vocal isn't exactly good idea imo as it's really redundant, moreover i'm quite sure it's actually quite late to be 1/16.. simplification already allowed in the current RC so you better snap to 1/4.
00:29:371 (29371|2) - This isn't really same pitch with 00:29:022 (29022|2) - So it isn't fit to be trill, better move to col 4.
00:31:508 (31508|0) - and other places i'm not sure why you really want to use all the grace note here and there for vocal.. It's only making thing unnecessary more complicated that way.. not follow vocal if it causes broken snap seem to be the better option as you don't actually have to use all those ambiguous snap.
00:39:487 (39487|0) - Move to col 7 as that column really lacks note.
00:43:499 - This is kinda confusing as you wanna catch vocal but don't map 00:43:325 - With LN..
00:46:987 - 00:47:511 - This too, if you decide to follow a certain instrument, make sure you actually do it consistently so that you express your idea more coherent and properly.
00:50:127 (50127|1,50301|4) - You decided to put these complicated LN when you don't use it before such as 00:41:057 - is really inconsistent and vague..
00:57:787 (57787|6) - this is really ambiguous as this is out of structure you use for bracket.. this supposed to be moved to col 6.
00:54:416 - Try weaken the SV so the effect actually fits more with the soft clap there.. 1,3 and 0,7x fit the deal
01:28:967 - While i know you want to make structure revolving not use note for col 1 and col 7, the one thing you should notice is the fact that the instrument already rising differently enough from previous part, still limiting them to only 5 column doesn't really make any sense as you want to make sure the sudden loud drum get emphasized more properly, try arrange them so the col 1 and col 7 being used.
01:34:697 (94697|2,94865|2,95034|2,95202|5,95371|5,95540|5) - idk why you use this kind of layering towards instrument that doesn't even hold emphasize regard to only single jack.. use http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8566640
01:39:922 - Same as above.
01:40:933 (100933|4,100954|5,100975|6) - And also the same grace notes, these are classified as dump, and i'm sure you won't get pass with this one as this doesn't have clear sound and instead an ambiguous one.

Good luck
DustMoon
BPM need ×2?i think keep also ok :D
Topic Starter
eyes

Maxus wrote:

M4M

[General]
I'm sure your BPM is wrong there, it is not 86 BPM but rather 172 BPM, try to follow BPM from https://osu.ppy.sh/s/597111 , since it's from ranked beatmap, it's trustable source. I don't care about ranked mapsets. BPM doesn't sound this fast, so I keep 86.

[Atmosphere]
00:26:101 (26101|2) - Idk bout you, but personally having 1/16 just to follow vocal isn't exactly good idea imo as it's really redundant, moreover i'm quite sure it's actually quite late to be 1/16.. simplification already allowed in the current RC so you better snap to 1/4. ok
00:29:371 (29371|2) - This isn't really same pitch with 00:29:022 (29022|2) - So it isn't fit to be trill, better move to col 4. is it necessary to have same pitch for making a trill? They sound very similar especially while playing so I keep a trill.
00:31:508 (31508|0) - and other places i'm not sure why you really want to use all the grace note here and there for vocal.. It's only making thing unnecessary more complicated that way.. not follow vocal if it causes broken snap seem to be the better option as you don't actually have to use all those ambiguous snap. it is for guitar, not for vocal.
00:39:487 (39487|0) - Move to col 7 as that column really lacks note. for emphasizing 00:38:790 (38790|0,39487|0)
00:43:499 - This is kinda confusing as you wanna catch vocal but don't map 00:43:325 - With LN.. changed
00:46:987 - 00:47:511 - This too, if you decide to follow a certain instrument, make sure you actually do it consistently so that you express your idea more coherent and properly.
00:50:127 (50127|1,50301|4) - You decided to put these complicated LN when you don't use it before such as 00:41:057 - is really inconsistent and vague.. changed
00:57:787 (57787|6) - this is really ambiguous as this is out of structure you use for bracket.. this supposed to be moved to col 6. for more comfortable playing, no change
00:54:416 - Try weaken the SV so the effect actually fits more with the soft clap there.. 1,3 and 0,7x fit the deal ok
01:28:967 - While i know you want to make structure revolving not use note for col 1 and col 7, the one thing you should notice is the fact that the instrument already rising differently enough from previous part, still limiting them to only 5 column doesn't really make any sense as you want to make sure the sudden loud drum get emphasized more properly, try arrange them so the col 1 and col 7 being used. still using 5k here for emphasizing 01:30:146 -
01:34:697 (94697|2,94865|2,95034|2,95202|5,95371|5,95540|5) - idk why you use this kind of layering towards instrument that doesn't even hold emphasize regard to only single jack.. use http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8566640 i don't like this
01:39:922 - Same as above.
01:40:933 (100933|4,100954|5,100975|6) - And also the same grace notes, these are classified as dump, and i'm sure you won't get pass with this one as this doesn't have clear sound and instead an ambiguous one.

Good luck
thanks
Maxus
Unfortunately Red timing is the matter of fact instead opinion, you cannot just throw away half of original BPM just because you feel the part is slow.

technically speaking that means people also allowed to do 43 BPM just because they want to? obviously not.

Just saying you won't get the map qualified if you blatantly change the BPM as you want, since it violates RC:

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Uninherited (red) Timing Sections should be used to accurately map the song's timing. They should synchronize to the beats of the song as accurately as possible and use the correct time signature whenever possible. If an incorrect time signature would last for more than 2 bars, add another timing section to fix it. Please see this thread for more information on downbeats.
It's not about you care or not, but using red timing based on your preferences alone is already wrong, there's already map that get DQ because of the issues: t/474455/start=75

So it's still the best if you follow ranked map for the timing.
ArcherLove
Actually, It's not a bad idea (and I also feel the BPM for the first part is 86).
Because the first part is just an intro that doesn't have a "strict" beat and not like the 2nd part when the guitar makes a bit faster rhythm. Technically it still all good.

Karena awalnya belum ada garis merah harusnya masih "boleh" untuk memakai bpm yang sesuai dengan rasa dari lagu tsb, sih..
Nggak harus ngikuti ranked map, sih. Tapi kalau buat referensi boleh. How about asking QAT? It's better than arguing like this. :D (sorry I can't make this in english good enough - although the synthesia says it's 170, because it contain piano with strong rhythms)

There is no trustable source since it's a matter of subjective feeling of the song. (nothing like remywiki ones / an explanation from the composser)

eyes' reply might a bit harsh but it's no mean to harm you, haha.
GL for both of you~
Maxus
I could tell you the same thing with t/429704/start=45 too though, the map uses 92 BPM in slow part but does ended up change BPM to 184 in the "slow part", Already told you just bcoz its calm doesn't mean you should half the BPM :P

And as i said before, BPM half or doubled already ever been an issued and be forced to DQ because of that, why try to using BPM that based on own opinion instead of following more trustable source?

Anyway, not my business anymore, I just told the mapper in advance to avoid any potential trouble in the future, and if mapper doesn't want to, it's their potential hurt, not me anyway :)

Good luck.
Topic Starter
eyes
Why do you think i've halved the bpm? why do you think that 172 is original bpm? ranked map doesn't make any sense, there's no any fact that 172 is original bpm. If we close eyes to all other part of song, and forget about ranked mapset, what bpm we choose?
172?
seriously?
If you want me to change 86 to 172, then please, give me the facts, not "if ranked one has 172, then you should have 172".

also, 178 =/= 172/2
so, i'm not doubling/halving the bpm, this is multi-bpm.
Maxus
Up to you anyway, I won't say anything again if you're just too dense and ignore the majority part of my argument :P

You can't give any fact alongside "this is my feeling, so it should be 86 BPM" , so i don't think you have any place to keep your BPM tbh.

You are halving BPM from 172 BPM to 86 BPM, it's halving.
Topic Starter
eyes
answer me one question: why do you think bpm is 172?
because monstrata choosed 172?
is monstrata a super mega bpm calculating machine?

seriously, is there any real fact that bpm is 172?
bpm = beats per minute
172 beats per minute
do you hear 172 beats per minute?
i don't
Maxus
00:41:232 - Hear this part, this has many 1/2 downbeat with snare sound present, it is the proof of actually relative fast beat from the intro itself and if you use 172 BPM it will knock the beat for hard snare.

If you only use 86 BPM, the beat won't catch the hard snare, when you supposed to catch the hard snare beat instead of ignoring it. (I will say you're the weird one here if you say that we should ignore hard instrument for main beat tempo.)

even at the beginning without snare, you hear so many 1/2 piano lingering around having the same tempo as the snare part, and yet somehow 86 BPM only cover like 1 out of 2 piano sound and you don't think it's weird?

if you use 172 BPM and listen to the beat of piano with that, it come around as obvious the main instrument being at 172 BPM. moreover the snare part and 40 seconds already prove my point.

If the music continues until 1 minute then you will hear 172, it's because the part only last for 30 seconds that it doesn't reach 172, don't think your argument makes sense here, you didn't give me any logical argument either from music perspective itself, and you always avoid to explain your point properly and instead being come across aggresive. maybe you should just calm down for a minute there lol.

After all, BPM stands for Beat per Minute, not "Feeling per Minute" :p
Topic Starter
eyes
finally, now i understand why this is 172, accepted. but still want ask qats about it
tatatat
Note: I use columns 0|1|2|3|4|5|6 when describing columns.

DB_B7.wav has a 3.3ms delay, not unrankable, just bad.
drum_cym.wav has a 0.5ms delay, do something about it if you want, not really super important.
soft-hitnormal.wav is less than 100ms in length, and has a 8.15ms delay, both of these things are unrankable. I would recommended adding silence to it to make it longer, but it seems like there is a noise over the hitsound, and it doesn't fully fade out before the end of the hitsound. I recommend just getting a different hitsound.
Increase the OD and HP of the normal difficulty by at least 0.5? 6.5HP/OD is too low for a normal difficulty, its not really even used much in easy difficulties. This amazing score is possible because of the low difficulty variables: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690066
Also umm, idk if you have the rights to use this audio file.

Do whatever you want about that. don't really care. Just letting you know.

With SVs throughout the map, don't forget that the change in bpm from 172bpm to 178bpm will be suddenly jarring even if you slowly progress the SV to 1.0X before the bpm change like If you want to make it be a smoother transition into the next bpm, multiply all your SVs before the bpm change by 1.035 (178/172=1.03488, round that up to 1.035). Remember, although osu! makes it seem like your SV changes are rounded, they really aren't. Decimal points are retained and hidden. Your new timing points for the normal difficulty would now be
[TimingPoints]
24488,348.837209302326,4,1,0,5,1,0
24488,-107.353730542136,4,2,1,6,0,0
41232,-102.785486689279,4,2,1,6,0,0
51348,-101.703534197813,4,1,0,5,0,0
51697,-100.644122383253,4,1,0,5,0,0
51871,-99.6065541112605,4,1,0,5,0,0
52046,-98.5901607019619,4,1,0,5,0,0
52220,-97.5943004928512,4,1,0,5,0,0
52394,337.078651685393,4,3,1,50,1,0
52394,-100,4,3,1,50,0,1
63180,-100,4,3,1,11,0,0
73967,-100,4,3,1,25,0,0
84753,-100,4,3,1,50,0,0
90146,-100,4,3,1,26,0,1
113573,-100,4,3,1,26,0,0
114416,-100,4,3,1,50,0,1
125202,-100,4,3,1,50,0,0
I'd say that doing this is only really necessary in the normal difficulty, where newer players might not be able to handle the sudden change in speed as well.
I also recommend increasing the hitsound volume before the BPM change, its very hard to hear over the vocals, and is barely audible even when the vocals aren't present. I didn't make changes to the hitsounds in the timing points linked above btw.
Normal:
00:34:778 - Move this note one collumn right, its a sharp.
00:45:941 - Same as above.
00:49:255 - Move one column left, same pitch as 00:49:953 - , lower pitch than 00:50:650 -
00:49:604 - Move to column 0. Lower pitch than 00:48:732 -
00:50:127 - Why is this in column 0? This should probably be in column 6

01:22:056 - Represent electric guitar hold with an LN until the next measure at 01:23:405 - ?
01:23:405 - same as above, represent electric guitar hold with an LN until the next measure at 01:24:753 - ?
A possible solution to the above two comments would be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690685 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690692

Sorry this took so long, I got distracted by something about shooting Scotsman in York with a bow and arrow. dunno.
semyon422

tatatat wrote:

Note: I use columns 0|1|2|3|4|5|6 when describing columns.

DB_B7.wav has a 3.3ms delay, not unrankable, just bad.
drum_cym.wav has a 0.5ms delay, do something about it if you want, not really super important.
soft-hitnormal.wav is less than 100ms in length, and has a 8.15ms delay, both of these things are unrankable. I would recommended adding silence to it to make it longer, but it seems like there is a noise over the hitsound, and it doesn't fully fade out before the end of the hitsound. I recommend just getting a different hitsound.
Increase the OD and HP of the normal difficulty by at least 0.5? 6.5HP/OD is too low for a normal difficulty, its not really even used much in easy difficulties. This amazing score is possible because of the low difficulty variables: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690066
Also umm, idk if you have the rights to use this audio file.

Do whatever you want about that. don't really care. Just letting you know.

With SVs throughout the map, don't forget that the change in bpm from 172bpm to 178bpm will be suddenly jarring even if you slowly progress the SV to 1.0X before the bpm change like If you want to make it be a smoother transition into the next bpm, multiply all your SVs before the bpm change by 1.035 (178/172=1.03488, round that up to 1.035). Remember, although osu! makes it seem like your SV changes are rounded, they really aren't. Decimal points are retained and hidden. Your new timing points for the normal difficulty would now be
[TimingPoints]
24488,348.837209302326,4,1,0,5,1,0
24488,-107.353730542136,4,2,1,6,0,0
41232,-102.785486689279,4,2,1,6,0,0
51348,-101.703534197813,4,1,0,5,0,0
51697,-100.644122383253,4,1,0,5,0,0
51871,-99.6065541112605,4,1,0,5,0,0
52046,-98.5901607019619,4,1,0,5,0,0
52220,-97.5943004928512,4,1,0,5,0,0
52394,337.078651685393,4,3,1,50,1,0
52394,-100,4,3,1,50,0,1
63180,-100,4,3,1,11,0,0
73967,-100,4,3,1,25,0,0
84753,-100,4,3,1,50,0,0
90146,-100,4,3,1,26,0,1
113573,-100,4,3,1,26,0,0
114416,-100,4,3,1,50,0,1
125202,-100,4,3,1,50,0,0
I'd say that doing this is only really necessary in the normal difficulty, where newer players might not be able to handle the sudden change in speed as well.
I also recommend increasing the hitsound volume before the BPM change, its very hard to hear over the vocals, and is barely audible even when the vocals aren't present. I didn't make changes to the hitsounds in the timing points linked above btw.
Normal:
00:34:778 - Move this note one collumn right, its a sharp.
00:45:941 - Same as above.
00:49:255 - Move one column left, same pitch as 00:49:953 - , lower pitch than 00:50:650 -
00:49:604 - Move to column 0. Lower pitch than 00:48:732 -
00:50:127 - Why is this in column 0? This should probably be in column 6

01:22:056 - Represent electric guitar hold with an LN until the next measure at 01:23:405 - ?
01:23:405 - same as above, represent electric guitar hold with an LN until the next measure at 01:24:753 - ?
A possible solution to the above two comments would be https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690685 or https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8690692

Sorry this took so long, I got distracted by something about shooting Scotsman in York with a bow and arrow. dunno.
Most of suggestions accepted for Normal diff, thanks!
lenpai
m4m that almost never came!

atmosphere
ugh those are some weird values why not just go for hp/od 8.5 the lns are rather simple

for starters these lns seems very arbitrary. You randomly drop lns for the guitar sounds and also randomly mix in vocals so it seems. Fairly inconsistent if you ask me

00:25:534 (25534|0,25534|3,25708|1,25883|0) - unnecessarily heavy on the left hand and the current pattern is awk for left thumb space users like me https://puu.sh/wW8Qh/e1763547ab.png should be a rather simple fix ignoring pr

00:26:929 (26929|4) - consider the what i said above, this can be a 1/2 ln
00:28:325 (28325|4) - ^ wont list more of these simple examples
00:29:720 (29720|5,30069|6) - move to the left once so that it doesnt feel as awkward to play
00:35:999 (35999|1,36043|0,36174|2,36174|3) - another overly heavy pattern 00:36:174 (36174|3) - move to 7
00:38:441 (38441|5,38557|6) - weird snap and weird placement. 00:38:441 (38441|5,38964|4) - swap
00:43:150 (43150|1,43194|2,43325|1) - unnecessary tech https://puu.sh/wW90R/4e1185e085.png
00:44:197 (44197|4) - some balancing weight on the left hand so move this to 4
00:45:592 (45592|0,45767|1,45941|2,46028|3) - awkward transitioning so 00:45:767 (45767|1) - to 5 or 6
00:48:732 (48732|5,48775|4,48906|5) - more unnecessary tech
00:52:046 (52046|6,52046|4,52162|5,52394|2,52394|0,52478|1) - awful. do [67]5 and [12]3 respectively
00:52:562 (52562|4,52731|5,52899|4,53068|5) - swap columns
00:52:731 (52731|2,52731|0,52899|1) - very awkward pattern 00:52:731 (52731|2,52899|1) - swap should do the trick
00:53:320 (53320|1,53320|3,53405|2,53405|0) - unnecessary bms stuff 00:53:236 - should be a double and 00:53:320 - should be a single
00:54:332 (54332|3,54332|1) - yeah you better avoid these transitions they're unnecessarily difficult to play
00:55:343 (55343|0,55343|2,55427|1,55427|3) - wont list more of these do take note that in situations like these, it is very likely that there is an actual drum sound in the 1/2 snap below it take 00:53:236 - as an example
00:57:450 - jesus christ it doesnt have to be this way ;w; https://puu.sh/wWahi/7133c98f09.png
01:00:736 (60736|5,60736|3,60820|4) - [67]5 pls
01:03:349 (63349|5) - for consistency with this, 01:03:686 (63686|4,64023|4,64360|4,64697|5,65034|5) - swap columns
01:03:180 - lasts 4/1 and 01:04:528 - lasts for 2/1 so why does 01:05:877 - last for 11/2
01:08:573 - if you keep this 11/2 it would be inconsistent with this too
01:11:607 (71607|3,71607|6,71776|6,71944|3,71944|5,72113|2,72281|5,72281|3) - too much anchorage on the middle column makes the right hand rather imbalanced especially for right thumb users
01:12:450 (72450|3,72534|1,72618|0,72618|3) - awkward combination
01:12:618 (72618|0,72618|3,72702|6,72787|4,72871|6,72955|4) - this transition doesnt make it any better here's a quickfix
01:21:551 (81551|6,81635|2,81719|3,81719|5,81804|0,81888|1,81888|6,81972|4) - quite hard to read considering there werent a lot of broken stairs beforehand
01:23:405 (83405|6,83405|4,83405|1,83742|4,83742|6,83742|0) - imbalanced. double should go in 01:23:742 (83742|0) -
01:25:090 - e d g y
01:45:483 - better off as https://puu.sh/wWbq8/95cb0e3e94.png

didnt nitpick but there could be issues in the last kiai that might need to be addressed as it is similar to the first kiai

Good luck!
Topic Starter
eyes

Lenfried- wrote:

m4m that almost never came!

atmosphere
ugh those are some weird values why not just go for hp/od 8.5 the lns are rather simple

for starters these lns seems very arbitrary. You randomly drop lns for the guitar sounds and also randomly mix in vocals so it seems. Fairly inconsistent if you ask me yep you're right, will remap this part later

00:25:534 (25534|0,25534|3,25708|1,25883|0) - unnecessarily heavy on the left hand and the current pattern is awk for left thumb space users like me https://puu.sh/wW8Qh/e1763547ab.png should be a rather simple fix ignoring pr changed

00:26:929 (26929|4) - consider the what i said above, this can be a 1/2 ln
00:28:325 (28325|4) - ^ wont list more of these simple examples
00:29:720 (29720|5,30069|6) - move to the left once so that it doesnt feel as awkward to play
00:35:999 (35999|1,36043|0,36174|2,36174|3) - another overly heavy pattern 00:36:174 (36174|3) - move to 7
00:38:441 (38441|5,38557|6) - weird snap and weird placement. 00:38:441 (38441|5,38964|4) - swap
00:43:150 (43150|1,43194|2,43325|1) - unnecessary tech https://puu.sh/wW90R/4e1185e085.png
00:44:197 (44197|4) - some balancing weight on the left hand so move this to 4
00:45:592 (45592|0,45767|1,45941|2,46028|3) - awkward transitioning so 00:45:767 (45767|1) - to 5 or 6
00:48:732 (48732|5,48775|4,48906|5) - more unnecessary tech
00:52:046 (52046|6,52046|4,52162|5,52394|2,52394|0,52478|1) - awful. do [67]5 and [12]3 respectively changed
00:52:562 (52562|4,52731|5,52899|4,53068|5) - swap columns hmm what for
00:52:731 (52731|2,52731|0,52899|1) - very awkward pattern 00:52:731 (52731|2,52899|1) - swap should do the trick changed
00:53:320 (53320|1,53320|3,53405|2,53405|0) - unnecessary bms stuff 00:53:236 - should be a double and 00:53:320 - should be a single lol no, single ln because there's only a guitar so I keep only singles for only guitar and double because I use doubles for bass kick
00:54:332 (54332|3,54332|1) - yeah you better avoid these transitions they're unnecessarily difficult to play I think it's fine
00:55:343 (55343|0,55343|2,55427|1,55427|3) - wont list more of these do take note that in situations like these, it is very likely that there is an actual drum sound in the 1/2 snap below it take 00:53:236 - as an example :thinking:
00:57:450 - jesus christ it doesnt have to be this way ;w; https://puu.sh/wWahi/7133c98f09.png lol why not
01:00:736 (60736|5,60736|3,60820|4) - [67]5 pls I like current pattern more
01:03:349 (63349|5) - for consistency with this, 01:03:686 (63686|4,64023|4,64360|4,64697|5,65034|5) - swap columns ok
01:03:180 - lasts 4/1 and 01:04:528 - lasts for 2/1 so why does 01:05:877 - last for 11/2
01:08:573 - if you keep this 11/2 it would be inconsistent with this too
01:11:607 (71607|3,71607|6,71776|6,71944|3,71944|5,72113|2,72281|5,72281|3) - too much anchorage on the middle column makes the right hand rather imbalanced especially for right thumb users changed
01:12:450 (72450|3,72534|1,72618|0,72618|3) - awkward combination changed
01:12:618 (72618|0,72618|3,72702|6,72787|4,72871|6,72955|4) - this transition doesnt make it any better here's a quickfix
01:21:551 (81551|6,81635|2,81719|3,81719|5,81804|0,81888|1,81888|6,81972|4) - quite hard to read considering there werent a lot of broken stairs beforehand changed
01:23:405 (83405|6,83405|4,83405|1,83742|4,83742|6,83742|0) - imbalanced. double should go in 01:23:742 (83742|0) - I don't think it's so bad, not even noticeable
01:25:090 - e d g y
01:45:483 - better off as https://puu.sh/wWbq8/95cb0e3e94.png changed

didnt nitpick but there could be issues in the last kiai that might need to be addressed as it is similar to the first kiai

Good luck!
thanks!
silentch
зачем ты так поступил
semyon422
12345678

easy
00:24:488 (24488|1) - move by 2 column right

00:31:988 (31988|1) - move by 1 column right

00:37:046 (37046|3) - move to 2 column

00:41:755 (41755|3) - move to 2 column

00:54:416 (54416|3) - move by 1 column right

01:40:933 - вот здесь лны на скретче думаю сложно играются, по крайней мере я миссал на них в рейте x4

01:41:607 (101607|5) - move to 2 column

постарался подвигать ноты и улучшить баланс

и ещё пустых строк добавил чтобы помасштабнее мод смотрелся
silentch
глото4ек мода

  • :D easy
    00:57:450 (57450|3,57618|4,57787|7) - неудобно
    Вообще советую сделать линейные паттерны аля 1 3 5 7 или 2 4 6
    И смотри еще такая фишка. Когда идет бит 1/2 - делай широкий спейсинг. Там где звук идет 1/4 - паттерны ближе.
    Например вот тут 00:57:450 (57450|3,57618|4,57787|7) - клоуз.
    00:59:135 (59135|5,59472|4) - вот тут пошире
    01:28:798 (88798|6,89304|2,89978|4) - отдали от лнов
    01:50:034 (110034|3,110202|4,110371|6) - тоже что и в 1
    Отличная диффа!

    :D Normal
    01:00:652 - Add chord
    01:41:944 (101944|2) - this ln ends here 01:42:281 (imho)
    01:49:528 - 01:51:551- so empty
    Amazing Diff.
Gl :)
Topic Starter
eyes

semyon422 wrote:

12345678

easy
00:24:488 (24488|1) - move by 2 column right is there a reason? also i want to emphasize the sample sound

00:31:988 (31988|1) - move by 1 column right yep

00:37:046 (37046|3) - move to 2 column nothing changes by this

00:41:755 (41755|3) - move to 2 column ^

00:54:416 (54416|3) - move by 1 column right yep

01:40:933 - вот здесь лны на скретче думаю сложно играются, по крайней мере я миссал на них в рейте x4 да, согласен

01:41:607 (101607|5) - move to 2 column moved to 3

постарался подвигать ноты и улучшить баланс

и ещё пустых строк добавил чтобы помасштабнее мод смотрелся
Спасибо!


silentch wrote:

глото4ек мода

  • :D easy
    00:57:450 (57450|3,57618|4,57787|7) - неудобно
    Вообще советую сделать линейные паттерны аля 1 3 5 7 или 2 4 6
    И смотри еще такая фишка. Когда идет бит 1/2 - делай широкий спейсинг. Там где звук идет 1/4 - паттерны ближе.
    Например вот тут 00:57:450 (57450|3,57618|4,57787|7) - клоуз.
    00:59:135 (59135|5,59472|4) - вот тут пошире отличная идея!
    01:28:798 (88798|6,89304|2,89978|4) - отдали от лнов ты про спейсинг? а зачем? я считаю что это и так сложный момент, поэтому оставил маленький спейсинг чтобы полегче было, а третья нота и так далеко (сори если неправильно понял).
    01:50:034 (110034|3,110202|4,110371|6) - тоже что и в 1 изменил
    Отличная диффа!

    .
Gl :)
Спасибо!

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