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Seijiro

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Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-11-25T16:03:27+00:00

~~working...~~

5 mod project (which was actually only 3 when you applied lol)

Neptune:
- 00:13:092 (1,2,3) - this is a bit unbalanced. Imo tre bigger spacing should be between 2,3 and not viceversa. Take 00:07:903 (1,2,3) - as example
- 00:37:579 (3) - not a fan of this sort of thing I'm about to suggest, but since you kept a 1,2 combo-ing till now, why not a NC here too I wonder. Just take a look 00:47:633 (1,2,1,2) - : it's the same rhythm
- 01:09:363 (3,1) - how about switching NCs here instead? Refer to 01:25:903 (1,2) - for example
- 01:47:309 (1,2,3,4) - if you keep everything into a single combo, please give a meaning, not just random jumps. Using your usual 1,2 combo is way better altho I hate it <.<

Syph:
- 00:16:497 (5,1) - maybe switch NC here. They're part of the same rhythm imo
- 00:22:011 (3) - make up your mind: either go all the way with the 1,2 combos or give your patterns a structure that fits the combo. As it is now in my eyes, they are all random jumps, hence why you used short combos for 00:20:390 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - , but then it doesn't make sense to not do it for 00:21:687 (1,2,3,4) - too, even if they are the same
- 00:26:227 (1,2,3,4) - just to give an example of what structured patterns look like. Yeah, it's just a square and it's a geometric figure, but you can come up with different figures if you want. That's why I made the above suggestion, because those ^ circles have no solid structure like these
- 00:50:552 (5,6,1) - a bit edgy and not so intuitive considering the direction you create with just 6,1. Option
- 01:11:633 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part feels too spaced considered the song calms down (notice how many instruments go quiet here and vocals are softer overall)
- 01:15:200 (6,1) - first time seeing this sort of pattern and it doesn't look that great, mostly because there are no similar patterns to refer at so it feels like a lightning in a sunny day. Why not moving 01:15:200 (6) - on 01:15:849 (3) - 's tail instead?
- 01:19:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't quite understand the need for such a 1/2 jump part, but ok... you're the mapper <.<"
Considering how you followed vocals till now it doesn't makes that much sense to me tho, because vocals are still strong enough to overcome the base rhythm you're mapping on.
- 01:32:227 (9,2) - stack 9 on 2? Just to keep the movement and spacing equal

Extra:
- 00:02:876 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - if you were going to use a triangle shape for the first 3, why is the last one excluded =w= Why not just copying both placement and verse of 00:02:876 (1,2,3) - for 00:04:336 (1,2,3) - . Literally, do a Ctrl + C/V and nothing else
- 00:16:011 (1) - what's with this NC... this pattern is not even close to stuff like 00:06:119 (1,2,1,2) - so there's not need to confuse players
- 00:16:660 (1) - same, there is no need for NC here imo
- 00:22:984 (3) - missing NC due to SV increase. If you wanted to give importance to pattern/structure then you shouldn't have used a SV change to begin with =3=
- 00:45:606 - that stack is a bit awkward to play, so why don't you place a circle here, with whistle maybe
- 01:35:633 (4) - just to make sure, is this a misclick or is intended? Ctrl + G works better in any case tho

Kalibe:
- 00:16:173 (2) - remove a repeat? It would better emphasize that rhythm break you have after it imo
- among the diffs I checked till now, it's the best in terms of consistency and structure. At least you don't abuse NCs as those two above <.<

Akitoshi:
- 01:26:876 (6) - considering how soft this beat in the music is, I'd rather remove it

Rocket:
- the colored slider body triggers me, but oh well..
- 00:41:471 (3) - even your hitsounding says so: there is a strong beat on the tail. Please use it
- 01:11:957 (2) - such cruel overmap for such a diff. Do you really need to keep this 1/2 rhythm so constant? It feels exhausting after a while (the fact you have a lot of close to each other objects and relatively low DS it makes it even more suffocating)
- 01:36:282 (1) - I'd rather avoid this stuff on such diff. 1/4 beats should be introduced in Hard diffs imo, not here
- 01:37:579 (5) - this """"might"""" work, but I'd rather avoid it too
- 01:47:795 (1) - guitar ends at 01:48:119 - tho... so half of the slider is overmapped

Normal:
- 01:19:417 (1,2,1,2) - this part ignores vocals a bit too much imo. You follow less intuitive sounds here, so try adding something else on 01:19:903 - and similar instead. Just as reference, there are plenty of parts where there are no vocals, so at least when you have them, follow them more (since they take the player's attention for sure)

General:
- it would have been cool to add at least a spinner on Advanced and Hard, but nvm
- Kwan checked meta already, so we're good to go on that~

Heh... call me back

PS: I strongly disagree with the NC usage on the top diffs, but that's just style and my project ensures the icon anyway. Just please don't call me again to icon such maps: as a BN I have the duty to push forward what I consider as "good" (or rather, build the community's game base) and that NC usage isn't imo, it makes every map less structured and just for "pp" (due to jumps everywhere).
I'm not gonna debate on what structure is or what you can do to improve now, since it means removing half of your NCs and re-building your patterns from scratch, so let's leave it there.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-12-01T01:27:32+00:00

Back to modding soon, tell me if you still need a mod for this!

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2016-12-09T03:15:56+00:00

I'll reply in 1-2 days ^^

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-12-09T19:14:24+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Rocket:
- the colored slider body triggers me, but oh well.. Violet powah! °A°
- 00:41:471 (3) - even your hitsounding says so: there is a strong beat on the tail. Please use it. FUUUUUUUUUUU! had to move lots of things to get this fixed! (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
- 01:11:957 (2) - such cruel overmap for such a diff. Do you really need to keep this 1/2 rhythm so constant? It feels exhausting after a while (the fact you have a lot of close to each other objects and relatively low DS it makes it even more suffocating) QaQ)7 Now the SR reduced so grisly xdxd
- 01:36:282 (1) - I'd rather avoid this stuff on such diff. 1/4 beats should be introduced in Hard diffs imo, not here. Not sure here, since the previous patterns had kick sliders as 00:06:119 (3) - and it wasn't a trouble.
- 01:37:579 (5) - this """"might"""" work, but I'd rather avoid it too. ^
- 01:47:795 (1) - guitar ends at 01:48:119 - tho... so half of the slider is overmapped. OVERMAPPING IS MAI HUSBANDO BUT MAPPING MY PASSION

Thank you very much for modding! >w<)/

Spork Lover likes forks in secret. >///<

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Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-12-12T09:14:22+00:00

Removed note from MrSergio's Mod, thank you!

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Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2016-12-12T11:35:22+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
~~working...~~

5 mod project (which was actually only 3 when you applied lol)

Syph:
- 00:16:497 (5,1) - maybe switch NC here. They're part of the same rhythm imo I nc'd here for the slider velocity change, and since there's such a strong sound on it which isn't on 5
- 00:22:011 (3) - make up your mind: either go all the way with the 1,2 combos or give your patterns a structure that fits the combo. As it is now in my eyes, they are all random jumps, hence why you used short combos for 00:20:390 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - , but then it doesn't make sense to not do it for 00:21:687 (1,2,3,4) - too, even if they are the same The nc's here are on pitch changes o: the 1,2 combo's aren't for the typical haha jump pattern lol since I never do that anyway
- 00:26:227 (1,2,3,4) - just to give an example of what structured patterns look like. Yeah, it's just a square and it's a geometric figure, but you can come up with different figures if you want. That's why I made the above suggestion, because those ^ circles have no solid structure like these "structured patterns" aren't really my thing
- 00:50:552 (5,6,1) - a bit edgy and not so intuitive considering the direction you create with just 6,1. Option I think it makes more sense like this tho? to keep up circular flow in that part and change the flow because of downbeat after 6
- 01:11:633 (1,2,3,1,2) - this part feels too spaced considered the song calms down (notice how many instruments go quiet here and vocals are softer overall) actually think the song gets stronger here, vocals are really strong and the constant cymbal crashes but I can reduce if you really want me to
- 01:15:200 (6,1) - first time seeing this sort of pattern and it doesn't look that great, mostly because there are no similar patterns to refer at so it feels like a lightning in a sunny day. Why not moving 01:15:200 (6) - on 01:15:849 (3) - 's tail instead? done!
- 01:19:741 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't quite understand the need for such a 1/2 jump part, but ok... you're the mapper <.<"
Considering how you followed vocals till now it doesn't makes that much sense to me tho, because vocals are still strong enough to overcome the base rhythm you're mapping on. because I feel like this is the strongest part in the song and there's constant 1/2 sounds
- 01:32:227 (9,2) - stack 9 on 2? Just to keep the movement and spacing equal don't really like the way that looks, plus I think it's fine ;-;

thanks for modding~

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Spork Lover 2016-12-12T14:52:49+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
~~working...~~

5 mod project (which was actually only 3 when you applied lol)

Neptune:
- 00:13:092 (1,2,3) - this is a bit unbalanced. Imo tre bigger spacing should be between 2,3 and not viceversa. Take 00:07:903 (1,2,3) - as example Did some changes to the pattern here so the spacing is similar to the last one
- 00:37:579 (3) - not a fan of this sort of thing I'm about to suggest, but since you kept a 1,2 combo-ing till now, why not a NC here too I wonder. Just take a look 00:47:633 (1,2,1,2) - : it's the same rhythm Sure xd
- 01:09:363 (3,1) - how about switching NCs here instead? Refer to 01:25:903 (1,2) - for example I did something different, due to the 2nd pattern having a different rhythm than the first one
- 01:47:309 (1,2,3,4) - if you keep everything into a single combo, please give a meaning, not just random jumps. Using your usual 1,2 combo is way better altho I hate it <.< Mistake, fixed

Extra:
- 00:02:876 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - if you were going to use a triangle shape for the first 3, why is the last one excluded =w= Why not just copying both placement and verse of 00:02:876 (1,2,3) - for 00:04:336 (1,2,3) - . Literally, do a Ctrl + C/V and nothing else I'll figure out something here before I call you back - Considering a small intro rework for this pattern :p
- 00:16:011 (1) - what's with this NC... this pattern is not even close to stuff like 00:06:119 (1,2,1,2) - so there's not need to confuse players Fixed
- 00:16:660 (1) - same, there is no need for NC here imo This one isn't an issue, since there's a 1/1 distance like with every other combo - I removed the NC on the slider instead though.
- 00:22:984 (3) - missing NC due to SV increase. If you wanted to give importance to pattern/structure then you shouldn't have used a SV change to begin with =3= Mistake, fixed ^^
- 00:45:606 - that stack is a bit awkward to play, so why don't you place a circle here, with whistle maybe I don't really mind this part tbh, and a triple feels too forced, since it's not
- 01:35:633 (4) - just to make sure, is this a misclick or is intended? Ctrl + G works better in any case tho Reworked the pattern, 'cause if I did it like your suggestion, the starting points would be too close

On top of what you suggested, I reworked 01:42:768 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - since it looked really bad and had fairly iffy flow xd

Normal:
- 01:19:417 (1,2,1,2) - this part ignores vocals a bit too much imo. You follow less intuitive sounds here, so try adding something else on 01:19:903 - and similar instead. Just as reference, there are plenty of parts where there are no vocals, so at least when you have them, follow them more (since they take the player's attention for sure) Added a note on 01:20:552 - to compensate for the vocals, and rotated the top sliders a little bit

General:
- it would have been cool to add at least a spinner on Advanced and Hard, but nvm Agreed for the intro, but that's totally up to them xd
- Kwan checked meta already, so we're good to go on that~ Wee xd

Heh... call me back Will do when I figured out how to change the intro for the extra and have updated all diffs ^^

PS: I strongly disagree with the NC usage on the top diffs, but that's just style and my project ensures the icon anyway. Just please don't call me again to icon such maps: as a BN I have the duty to push forward what I consider as "good" (or rather, build the community's game base) and that NC usage isn't imo, it makes every map less structured and just for "pp" (due to jumps everywhere).
I'm not gonna debate on what structure is or what you can do to improve now, since it means removing half of your NCs and re-building your patterns from scratch, so let's leave it there. Even if I did rework it, I don't think I would change my NC'ing habit too much, since I like pattern based NC's more than "every 2nd downbeat"-NC's xd

Thank you very much Sergio!

Edit: Updated all diffs except Kaleebae :3

Kalibe

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Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-12-12T22:03:42+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Kalibe:
- 00:16:173 (2) - remove a repeat? It would better emphasize that rhythm break you have after it imo but there's still a sound, also i make it again 01:36:606 (2) - added clap on (2) last repeat cuz i hear clap sound there at least

thx sergio!!

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Seijiro

osu! Alumni

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Seijiro 2016-12-13T16:01:10+00:00

Last time I approve of such NC usage <.<"

Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2016-12-14T13:43:31+00:00

yay

Spork Lover

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Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2016-12-14T14:49:12+00:00

hypehypehype

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-Zeraora 2016-12-14T15:06:47+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
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Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2017-02-01T20:01:06+00:00

Greetings!

I spoke with Spork regarding the mapset and we basically came to the conclusion that this last difficulty needs revision before this is pushed forward.

[Neptune]

00:07:417 (1) - NCing is inconsistent with 00:10:011 (3) - 00:12:606 (3) - etc.
00:17:146 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I understand you want to follow the background sounds here, but I do not really see the point of ignoring the vocals that would otherwise make the rhythm more interesting. There's currently a lot of consecutive 1/2 sliders, which do not really reflect what the song is doing here in terms of rhythm. For 00:23:633 (1,2) - you could turn this into a 1/1 and circle as accentuation of the vocal difference in comparison to 00:24:281 (3,4) - .
00:22:336 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Breaking flow this often usually doesn't end well in regards to gameplay, especially not in a calm section.
00:27:525 - You are following vocals at 00:32:714 - but not here, which I find rather odd.
00:58:984 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Would be much better if you started with something less spaced and then built your way up. That way you'd make the increase in spacing stand out more, and in turn reflect the song better. At the moment the jumps also do not seem to hold much of a structure, they're more just randomly placed across the screen, unlike 00:35:633 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - .
01:07:741 (1,2) - These sounds are not even remotely similar to 01:08:390 (1,2) - except for the drums, so making them symmetrical and with the same rhythm will kind of give the wrong impression. Remember, actually reflecting the song is more important than making patterns.
01:13:660 - btw this stream should probably continue here. Mixing up the map with some streams where possible instead of having jumps all over wouldn't hurt, right? Same goes for 01:36:849 - . The way the combos are used for these in light of this may want to be reconsidered.
01:13:741 (2,3) - Placing large jumps for parts of lesser prominence should probably be avoided. It's not like it provides any good transition into 01:13:903 (3,1) - either atm.
01:14:876 - Overall it looks like vocals are completely ignored at some sections while they're followed really closely for others, which makes things a bit inconsistent. To be honest the map may need to revise it's rhythm choices, and focus more on the rhythm of the song rather than the patterns in the map. While some patterns work, they're not always very elaborate. Star patterns like 01:15:687 (2,3,4,5,6) - could have followed vocals much closer by emphasizing certain notes instead of building a monotonous pattern. If 01:15:849 (3) - were a 1/2 slider instead of two consecutive circles, for example, it would be comparably different from the notes preceding and following it, 01:15:687 (2,4) - , making both it and 01:16:173 (5) - stand out more.
01:19:417 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This may be structured, but it's not supported by the song. This is honestly just another part of the kiai and I see no reason to why it would stand out this much in comparison to other parts.
Overall there's just a lot of missed opportunities and misplaced emphasis. Look at 01:23:795 - , for example. 01:23:309 (1,2,3) - This whole thing may make an interesting pattern, but when comparing it to the song it just does not align with which beats the song is placing prominence on.
01:42:606 (2,1,2) - Initiating a new group with the same types of notes generally will not work well. Instead you could try starting this with a slider.
01:45:038 (2) - There's a lot of minor stuff as well like aesthetics etc, but fine tuning is not really the stage the map is at yet. Firstly the more major issues like spacing consistencies, jump structures and rhythm accentuation should be taken care of.

Overall it would probably benefit the map if it underwent some major reworking and perhaps even remapping. As it is, there are a lot of patterns and rhythms that just don't match the song well, and reflecting the song is something I would say is rather important for a beatmap. I skipped over the majority of minor issues, since there are more important concerns at hand. There seems to be a few other things for the other difficulties in the set that could use some work, so perhaps getting some mods both for the revised version of this last diff, as well as the other ones, would be a good idea, before pushing it forward again.

Either way, until these issues are resolved, I'll have to veto the mapset since I disagree with how this is currently mapped. Feel free to ask me for further guidance or questions. Good luck!

Spork Lover

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Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-01T21:11:21+00:00

Naxess wrote:
Greetings!

I spoke with Spork regarding the mapset and we basically came to the conclusion that this last difficulty needs revision before this is pushed forward. Yup, I initiated this lol

[Neptune]
00:07:417 (1) - NCing is inconsistent with 00:10:011 (3) - 00:12:606 (3) - etc. Whoops, that was a dumb mistake lol
00:17:146 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I understand you want to follow the background sounds here, but I do not really see the point of ignoring the vocals that would otherwise make the rhythm more interesting. There's currently a lot of consecutive 1/2 sliders, which do not really reflect what the song is doing here in terms of rhythm. For 00:23:633 (1,2) - you could turn this into a 1/1 and circle as accentuation of the vocal difference in comparison to 00:24:281 (3,4) - . gonna rework most rhythm, so this'll be fixed eventually anyway :3
00:22:336 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Breaking flow this often usually doesn't end well in regards to gameplay, especially not in a calm section. Fixing all of this around for sure, it doesn't even look good lol
00:27:525 - You are following vocals at 00:32:714 - but not here, which I find rather odd.
00:58:984 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Would be much better if you started with something less spaced and then built your way up. That way you'd make the increase in spacing stand out more, and in turn reflect the song better. At the moment the jumps also do not seem to hold much of a structure, they're more just randomly placed across the screen, unlike 00:35:633 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - .
01:07:741 (1,2) - These sounds are not even remotely similar to 01:08:390 (1,2) - except for the drums, so making them symmetrical and with the same rhythm will kind of give the wrong impression. Remember, actually reflecting the song is more important than making patterns.
01:13:660 - btw this stream should probably continue here. Mixing up the map with some streams where possible instead of having jumps all over wouldn't hurt, right? Same goes for 01:36:849 - . The way the combos are used for these in light of this may want to be reconsidered. Added a kickslider on top of the quint, and will add more triples and streams in other sections
01:13:741 (2,3) - Placing large jumps for parts of lesser prominence should probably be avoided. It's not like it provides any good transition into 01:13:903 (3,1) - either atm.
01:14:876 - Overall it looks like vocals are completely ignored at some sections while they're followed really closely for others, which makes things a bit inconsistent. To be honest the map may need to revise it's rhythm choices, and focus more on the rhythm of the song rather than the patterns in the map. While some patterns work, they're not always very elaborate. Star patterns like 01:15:687 (2,3,4,5,6) - could have followed vocals much closer by emphasizing certain notes instead of building a monotonous pattern. If 01:15:849 (3) - were a 1/2 slider instead of two consecutive circles, for example, it would be comparably different from the notes preceding and following it, 01:15:687 (2,4) - , making both it and 01:16:173 (5) - stand out more. Like Trump would say; it's all Wrong. I'll rework these parts entirely.
01:19:417 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This may be structured, but it's not supported by the song. This is honestly just another part of the kiai and I see no reason to why it would stand out this much in comparison to other parts. This section is definitely more intense though than the other parts of the kiais, but I'm going to get some of the vocals emphasized with sliders so it's a lot more intuitive. Also, as a sidenote.. I honestly don't even think it was structured well enough (at least not with my current mindset) xD.
Overall there's just a lot of missed opportunities and misplaced emphasis. Look at 01:23:795 - , for example. 01:23:309 (1,2,3) - This whole thing may make an interesting pattern, but when comparing it to the song it just does not align with which beats the song is placing prominence on. Reworking all rhythm appropriately xd
01:42:606 (2,1,2) - Initiating a new group with the same types of notes generally will not work well. Instead you could try starting this with a slider.
01:45:038 (2) - There's a lot of minor stuff as well like aesthetics etc, but fine tuning is not really the stage the map is at yet. Firstly the more major issues like spacing consistencies, jump structures and rhythm accentuation should be taken care of. As soon as that's done, the aesthetics will automatically find their place anyway, but yeah agreed xdd
I'll mostly answer the same to all the suggestions which is "yup, i need to get all the rhythm sorted out and create better emphasis", 'cause yeah, it's pretty bland as it is now. Considering the product you modded is technically my mapping skills 6 months ago (not good), there's definitely a lot of issues lel - I'll rework the whole map and hopefully it'll turn out a LOT better than before. It'll probably take 1-2 days before it's completed, but yeah

Overall it would probably benefit the map if it underwent some major reworking and perhaps even remapping. As it is, there are a lot of patterns and rhythms that just don't match the song well, and reflecting the song is something I would say is rather important for a beatmap. I skipped over the majority of minor issues, since there are more important concerns at hand. There seems to be a few other things for the other difficulties in the set that could use some work, so perhaps getting some mods both for the revised version of this last diff, as well as the other ones, would be a good idea, before pushing it forward again.

Either way, until these issues are resolved, I'll have to veto the mapset since I disagree with how this is currently mapped. Feel free to ask me for further guidance or questions. Good luck! You already know I would buddy x] Thanks for doing this, since I should've honestly reworked it from the start lol

Spork Lover

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Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-02T00:23:46+00:00

Map reworked, I need to tweak some hitsounds and 2-3 patterns which I'll do tomorrow.

Spork Lover

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Spork Lover 2017-02-02T09:04:47+00:00

Map completely reworked now and re-hitsounded.

@NanoRIPE
@DavidEd

When modding, focus on normal, advanced, syph's diff, extra and neptune mainly, feel free to mod kali's and aki's diff too

Dilectus

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Dilectus 2017-02-03T14:22:17+00:00

M4M

Neptune

00:04:823 (1,2,3,4) - All beats have the same intensity, so using the same spacing should represent the music perfectly.
It works so good at 01:37:498 (2,3,1,2,3) - because the music has this sort of "pause" at 01:37:660 (1,2,3) - so lowering
ds was so damn good.

00:35:633 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing here sounds like it should be consistent because I'm not hearing any special beats deservant of an spacing increase.

00:36:525 - Missing beat
00:57:525 - ^

01:05:957 (5,1) - You can make these look much better if they had the same angle

01:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - These are 1/3 if you listen to the song.

01:14:714 (1) - I'd suggest replacing with a note and a 1/2 slider for better rhythm. Also the blanket is off here 01:14:065 (1,2) -

01:48:768 (1,2,1) - Move the notes around to form a equilateral triangle?

Syph's Extra

Its good enough

Extra

00:04:822 (1,2,3,4) - Same as Neptune

00:13:092 (1) - Try and make this slider symmetrical. Doesn't look too healthy atm.

00:16:173 (1) - Very intense flow break here. I cant hear anything that suggests it either, so I suggest you do ctrl+h

00:17:146 - I expected vocals to be prioritized in this part. Every other diff has mapped vocals except for this one.

01:14:876 (4) - Missed clap

Advanced

01:12:281 (3,1) - You could probably try and blanket (3) sliderend with (1). It just looks better imo.

01:16:173 (3) - Missing clap

Normal

00:02:876 (1) - Why didn't you map this part?

00:52:822 (4,1) - Blanketing these looks really good

00:58:498 (1,1) - Too small recovery gap between spinner end and next beat. I suggest deleting 01:00:606 (1) - as it is not an important beat anyways.

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couldnt find anything on kalibes and that other dudes diff

Spork Lover

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Spork Lover 2017-02-03T23:45:10+00:00

~~Responding tomorrow~~

DavidEd wrote:
M4M

Neptune

00:04:823 (1,2,3,4) - All beats have the same intensity, so using the same spacing should represent the music perfectly. The main thing here is that the note that plays in the music goes down in tone, and it's substantial enough to make for such a spacing decrease. I did however curve the pattern instead.
It works so good at 01:37:498 (2,3,1,2,3) - because the music has this sort of "pause" at 01:37:660 (1,2,3) - so lowering
ds was so damn good.

00:35:633 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing here sounds like it should be consistent because I'm not hearing any special beats deservant of an spacing increase. Melody's pitch increase - same thing as the beginning

00:36:525 - Missing beat Too unpredictable when I didn't use triples untill then
00:57:525 - ^ Only thing I hear clearly is the vocals, and that's not enough imo, 'cause it's not as prominent as 00:56:065 (1,2,3) -
01:05:957 (5,1) - You can make these look much better if they had the same angle

01:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - These are 1/3 if you listen to the song. Yeah I did that on the extra because it's more complex - I reworked this part with passive 1/3's and a few single taps.

01:14:714 (1) - I'd suggest replacing with a note and a 1/2 slider for better rhythm. Also the blanket is off here 01:14:065 (1,2) - Fixed blanket when I made the rhythm change, thanks :3

01:48:768 (1,2,1) - Move the notes around to form a equilateral triangle? It was supposed to be, fixed :3

Syph's Extra

Its good enough

Extra

00:04:822 (1,2,3,4) - Same as Neptune It already is though xd If you mean compared to the previous notes, I don't think it's an issue in this case.

00:13:092 (1) - Try and make this slider symmetrical. Doesn't look too healthy atm. Didn't make it symmetrical, but made it blanket 00:12:606 (3) -

00:16:173 (1) - Very intense flow break here. I cant hear anything that suggests it either, so I suggest you do ctrl+h It's an aesthetic, and it's a kickslider, so you won't notice that "flow break" when you play through the map.

00:17:146 - I expected vocals to be prioritized in this part. Every other diff has mapped vocals except for this one. Valid concern - I don't think it's problematic though due to the already overmapped streams in the beginning etc. I'm trying to make it as unrelated to the Neptune diff as possible.

01:14:876 (4) - Missed clap Nice catch :3

Advanced

01:12:281 (3,1) - You could probably try and blanket (3) sliderend with (1). It just looks better imo.

01:16:173 (3) - Missing clap

Normal

00:02:876 (1) - Why didn't you map this part? was lazy, fixed

00:52:822 (4,1) - Blanketing these looks really good gave 4 a curve

00:58:498 (1,1) - Too small recovery gap between spinner end and next beat. I suggest deleting 01:00:606 (1) - as it is not an important beat anyways. Good point

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couldnt find anything on kalibes and that other dudes diff

Will respond to @NanoRIPE when his mod is complete :3

Thanks !!~ <3

Last edited by Spork Lover 2017-02-04T08:31:16+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2017-02-04T06:30:32+00:00

m4m return

Normal
00:29:795 (3) - move to 278,112 for good flow between (2,3,1)
00:36:606 (3,4,1) - the overlap looks clearly.im prefer you stack (1) somewhere like on 00:37:417 (6) - sliderhead instead?
00:40:498 (1,2) - the long slider doesnt fit with the vocal imo (the vocal looks strong for me so i think this slider must follow vocal) suggestion : make the pattern same as you did at 00:50:876 (1,2,3)
00:52:822 (4,1) - the flow looks odd for me cause the sliders doesnt connect each other.suggestion : http://prnt.sc/e4an7a
00:58:498 (1) - ok the end of spinner doesnt fit with the vocal.suggestion : just make the spinner ended at 01:00:930 - instead ~
01:05:957 (4,1) - im never see this kind of pattern before.if i were you i will move the slider (1) to 217,216 for make a good flow instead
01:20:065 (2,1,3) - ^ but for this one i think its fine cause its not overlap,but still confusing cause the pattern looks tightly.im prefer you change it with another pattern?
01:25:903 (2) - del this nc? for consistency
01:47:309 (4) - make the slider like this http://prnt.sc/e4apjj ? for better pattern i think

Advanced
00:06:768 (1) - the guitar sounds start here and looks strong so why you skip it?
00:16:173 (2,3) - del this and change it with 1/1 slider instead? for decrease the density
00:16:660 (5) - just ended it on red tick cause its too dense for advanced diff imo
00:21:038 (1,2,3,4) - player will be confused when they see this pattern (and the skin also make harder to see it more)
00:23:309 - i think you must add circle here cause the vocal for support this circle 00:23:471 (2) more
00:27:444 (1) - same as 00:16:660 (5)
00:33:687 - same as 00:23:309
00:50:390 (3) - move to 89,254 for better blanket
00:53:471 (1) - add finish here cause looks odd for me xd
01:12:768 (1) - move to 189,62 for better blanket with the previous object
01:13:579 (3) - i think if you convert this slider into 2 circles it would better imo
01:16:173 (3) - im prefer clap here than whistle
01:24:606 (1,2) - looks blank here imo,maybe make the slider to 3/2 reverse slider instead?
01:27:200 (1) - same as 00:06:768 (1) -
01:36:281 (1,3) - its not paralel
01:40:822 (4,2) - overlap a bit
01:49:092 (3) - i think long slider would emphatize more than a circle

hard
00:36:930 (2,3) - i think it would be great if you make slider (2) is reverse slider then a circle the next one for emphatize the vocal more
00:47:309 (2,3) - ^
00:53:471 (1) - same as advance
00:55:254 (2) - whistle here for vocal
01:49:092 (3) - same as advanced or maybe a spinner here instead?

fort you,this diff lit af

kalibe's insane
00:14:552 (1,2) - im prefer you make a 1/1 slider here and then a circle cause if its just a circle i think the guitar less of emphatize
00:21:849 (5,6) - unnecessary finish cause theres no finish i hear
00:30:606 (2) - unstack? cause you never make stack pattern before like this
00:40:984 (2) - ctrl j for emphatize more?
00:56:486 (1) - just stack like this instead? for make the pattern neat and also avoid the overlap
01:07:417 (3) - convert this slider into 2 circles? for make the pattern dense a bit (cause this is insane diff lol)
01:13:254 (1,2) - this slider looks weird (really doesnt fit with the song) for me xd why not make stream instead?
01:19:417 (1,2,3) - the rhythm fit the rhythm but i think it would be great if you make like this http://prnt.sc/e4awr0
01:41:309 (8) - 281,216 for blanket (i think blanket would be great)
01:45:281 (7,1) - imperfect stack
01:49:092 (2) - same as hard and advanced

extra
00:10:173 (4) - ctrl h for better flow between (2,3,4,5)
00:12:768 (4) - i think curve slider would be great here like this http://prnt.sc/e4bnsk
00:17:065 (2,1,2) - the overlap quite annoying for me xd
00:31:903 (3,4) - unnecessary jumpr,theres no vocal/instrument that support to put a jump here
00:32:714 (1) - i think ctrl j would be great here
00:44:065 (4) - ctrl h for better pattern i think
00:55:741 - i think you should add circle here cause the vocal looks strong here
01:13:254 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - i think stream would be better than a random circles like this.im feel odd about this pattern (especially the hitsound,doesnt fit with the song)
01:14:876 (4) - clap here
01:16:984 (1) - unnecessary clap

this diff looks random for me but ok i think its fine since this is extra diff xd

Syph's expert
00:11:957 (1,2) - del this and change it with 1/2 slider here?
00:18:930 (2,3) - ctrl g? cause it doesnt fit with the vocal
00:29:957 (1,2) - ^
00:43:092 (1) - i think it would make sense if you make a 1/2 slider here than a circle cause 1/2 slider emphatize the guitar sound well here
01:13:254 (1,1,1,1,1) - same as extra (im not understand why you guys make the rhythm like this?)
01:19:417 (1) - finish would be better than whistle here cause the beat looks strong

nice diff

NepNepNep
cs 6? .-.

00:04:823 (1,2,3,4) - why not make a zig zag/jump pattern here? cause the beat looks strong here or at least stacked it
00:10:498 (1) - the slider seems random imo,why not make the slider like this? http://prnt.sc/e4btiz
00:18:281 (5,6,7,8) - looks boring if you just make the pattern like that,maybe make varation rhythm iinstead? since this is the top diff so why not? (i can't give you suggestion cause im never make diff >hard)
00:33:525 (3) - unnecessary clap
00:38:876 (2) - i think a circle would be better here for emphatize the vocal more
00:54:768 (1,1) - i think if you put finish on these slider that would be good
00:57:525 - circle here for vocal
01:13:254 (1,2,1,2,1) - same as syph expert and extra
01:15:363 (1) - clap here?

ok thats it from me
GL!
sorry for my bad english .-.

Spork Lover

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Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-04T09:23:07+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
m4m return

Normal
00:29:795 (3) - move to 278,112 for good flow between (2,3,1) Moved it, but not to that exact location.
00:36:606 (3,4,1) - the overlap looks clearly.im prefer you stack (1) somewhere like on 00:37:417 (6) - sliderhead instead? changed, moved it to the right side instead, overlap is too much I think
00:40:498 (1,2) - the long slider doesnt fit with the vocal imo (the vocal looks strong for me so i think this slider must follow vocal) suggestion : make the pattern same as you did at 00:50:876 (1,2,3) Done, reworked a fair bit because of it lol xd
00:52:822 (4,1) - the flow looks odd for me cause the sliders doesnt connect each other.suggestion : http://prnt.sc/e4an7a Simplified the shapes and made it easier
00:58:498 (1) - ok the end of spinner doesnt fit with the vocal.suggestion : just make the spinner ended at 01:00:930 - instead ~ When there's not enough recovery time
01:05:957 (4,1) - im never see this kind of pattern before.if i were you i will move the slider (1) to 217,216 for make a good flow instead I fixed shapes, but didn't change pattern
01:20:065 (2,1,3) - ^ but for this one i think its fine cause its not overlap,but still confusing cause the pattern looks tightly.im prefer you change it with another pattern?
01:25:903 (2) - del this nc? for consistency Fixed
01:47:309 (4) - make the slider like this http://prnt.sc/e4apjj ? for better pattern i think Rotated 20 degrees, did not make linear

extra
00:10:173 (4) - ctrl h for better flow between (2,3,4,5) done
00:12:768 (4) - i think curve slider would be great here like this http://prnt.sc/e4bnsk fixed
00:17:065 (2,1,2) - the overlap quite annoying for me xd fix <3
00:31:903 (3,4) - unnecessary jump, theres no vocal/instrument that support to put a jump here did something
00:32:714 (1) - i think ctrl j would be great here fixed something more
00:44:065 (4) - ctrl h for better pattern i think I think it is fine
00:55:741 - i think you should add circle here cause the vocal looks strong here Nah that's not my focus in this area
01:13:254 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - i think stream would be better than a random circles like this.im feel odd about this pattern (especially the hitsound,doesnt fit with the song) 1/3 is totally acceptable here, it's kinda the same reply as the neptune diff.
01:14:876 (4) - clap here
01:16:984 (1) - unnecessary clap fixed both

this diff looks random for me but ok i think its fine since this is extra diff xd Yeah, it has some gimmicks xd

NepNepNep
cs 6? .-. it was in the beginning when I originally made the map, but it was overkill because it wasn't a precision based diff haha

00:04:823 (1,2,3,4) - why not make a zig zag/jump pattern here? cause the beat looks strong here or at least stacked it pitch, it's kinda the same response as I mentioned to david. I however increased the spacing overall, but with same decrease.
00:10:498 (1) - the slider seems random imo,why not make the slider like this? http://prnt.sc/e4btiz Fixed
00:18:281 (5,6,7,8) - looks boring if you just make the pattern like that,maybe make varation rhythm iinstead? since this is the top diff so why not? (i can't give you suggestion cause im never make diff >hard) I like the symmetry style here
00:33:525 (3) - unnecessary clap fixed, mistake lol
00:38:876 (2) - i think a circle would be better here for emphatize the vocal more Nice idea, added 3 though so I could make a neat pattern, emphasizes well.
00:54:768 (1,1) - i think if you put finish on these slider that would be good added on the first of those.
00:57:525 - circle here for vocal aight done
01:13:254 (1,2,1,2,1) - same as syph expert and extra There's 1/3 rhythm in the song, and there's even a passive 1/3 in the beginning so people aren't surprised by it.
01:15:363 (1) - clap here? sure

ok thats it from me
GL!
sorry for my bad english .-. Haha, if it's understandable it works >;D Thank you very much, was super helpful

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Syph

Beatmap Nominator

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Syph 2017-02-04T09:26:09+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
m4m return

Syph's expert
00:11:957 (1,2) - del this and change it with 1/2 slider here? but why?
00:18:930 (2,3) - ctrl g? cause it doesnt fit with the vocal im not following vocal here
00:29:957 (1,2) - ^ ?
00:43:092 (1) - i think it would make sense if you make a 1/2 slider here than a circle cause 1/2 slider emphatize the guitar sound well here i dont think so s:
01:13:254 (1,1,1,1,1) - same as extra (im not understand why you guys make the rhythm like this?) ..because it's 1/3?
01:19:417 (1) - finish would be better than whistle here cause the beat looks strong yup

nice diff

thanks!

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Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-02-04T11:57:19+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
hard
00:36:930 (2,3) - i think it would be great if you make slider (2) is reverse slider then a circle the next one for emphatize the vocal more current one delivers emphasis on drums more + smooth transitions
00:47:309 (2,3) - ^ ^
00:53:471 (1) - same as advance ok
00:55:254 (2) - whistle here for vocal ok
01:49:092 (3) - same as advanced or maybe a spinner here instead? no thanks, not a fan of short spinner ewe

thank you!

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Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2017-02-04T14:47:20+00:00

generally i remapped some parts from my diff, also accept some suggestions from nano mod too!

thanks!!

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HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2017-02-04T17:07:19+00:00

Fixed everything from mods! Thank you very much!

osu file format v14

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Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-04T20:31:18+00:00

All updated

Yahuri

1,406 posts

Joined July 2014

Yahuri 2017-02-06T01:46:29+00:00

m4m pm~
welcome to nazi stacking & blankets pls enjoy ur stay
everything off by less than 2 pixels have been ignored

Normal
00:02:876 (1,2,3,4) - the intro is quite loud, so it feels underwhelming to me not to have hitsounds here. (you have hitsounding here on the other diffs btw)
00:09:363 (1,2) - fix DS
00:26:552 - uhhh did you mean to change the sampleset here? i think it should be auto :O
00:37:254 (5) - ^
00:40:498 (1,3) - the first part of slider 3 doesnt line up exactly with the second part of 1, so you can stack head3 on tail1 -> line up -> move back
00:41:633 (3,4) - kind of looks like it should be a blanket, considering how close the tail of 4 is to 3
00:43:741 (2,3) - blanket looks weird cuz the sliderbody of 3 is closer to 2 than the head of 3 and the red anchor
00:47:309 - add clap?
00:54:119 (2,3) - rip DS
01:20:065 (2,3,1) - ive never seen anything like this in a Normal, it might be confusing cuz of the stack
01:24:606 (1,2) - i dont really like how the flow looks here, i think it would be better if you curve the tail of 1 towards 2 rather than away from it. (also if you were trying to blanket 01:23:795 (5) its not perfect)
01:35:633 - remove clap

Extra
00:04:822 (1,2,3,4) - its fine but i think it would look better as a parallelogram
00:09:200 (6) - i dont think this note is strong enough to get this big of a jump
00:11:633 (1,3) - stack?
00:21:362 (2,2) - 2px stack lel
00:36:281 (4) - 00:36:930 (2) - ^ (move 4 otherwise ull have to move everything behind 2)
00:38:714 (1,1) - blanket is off, sliderbody too close
00:49:092 (1,1) - blanket, both heads are too close to the slidertails
00:57:363 (1,1) - blanket Dx
00:59:309 (3) - move up 3 and right 2 -> perfect overlap with 00:58:498 (1). move 00:59:795 (5) - as well if you apply this change

00:59:633 (4,2) - moar 2px stack
01:46:984 (1,2) - ^
01:14:876 (4) - pls fix sampleset or addition idk what it is
01:20:552 (6) - move down 1px for perfect overlap with 01:19:903 (4). move 01:21:038 (2) - if you apply this

Neptune
-i agree with Azusa, 5.5 seems a bit much. Kalibe's diff has CS4, Extra jumps back down to CS3, Syph's diff goes back up to CS4, then wew huge jump to CS5.5 so the CS spread seems weird imo. I would use CS5 at maximum.
00:17:633 (3,5) - stack
00:18:930 (7,8) - ^
00:38:227 (1,1) - ^
00:44:876 (3,1) - ^
01:03:687 (1,3) - ^
01:06:444 (1,3) - ^ youll need to fix this too 01:06:930 (3,5)
01:26:714 (1,1) - ^
01:14:552 (2) - the Normal default sounds awk cuz it only happens once in kiai
01:15:687 (2) - add clap?

Good luck!

Last edited by Yahuri 2017-02-06T03:51:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

sahuang

2,294 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-02-06T01:47:19+00:00

[Normal]

00:02:876 (1,3) - guess you could avoid overlap here
00:41:633 (3,4) - blanket feels off
00:54:119 (2,3) - ds
01:06:444 (1,2,3) - the overlaps really feel messy in normal imo
01:20:065 (2,3,1) - very confusing for new players.also can just 01:20:552 (3,1) - stack them as you did before
01:48:768 (2) - ds

[Advanced]

00:18:930 (3,4,5) - ds should be consistent. also i think for this part ds is so small that objects almost overlapped
00:20:714 (2,4) - circle placement is bad cuz overlaps
00:21:849 - 00:22:173 - also i think you shouldnt ignore them, so 2 sliders instead of 2 circles here
00:59:957 (1,2,3,4) - ..why suddenly so big ds?
Very technical advanced with a lot of challenging stacks, sometimes they are too difficult for advanced, tho.

[Hard]

01:20:714 (1) - break to slider+circle?
nice

[Insane]

00:14:714 - note?
00:16:498 - note here is better
00:19:579 (1,2) - swap nc? also 00:20:065 (1) - cancel nc
00:24:768 (1,2,1) - same as above
01:01:254 (1) - break it apart, 01:01:417 - should map this,so probably slider+circle
ctrl+A

[Extra]

00:21:687 (1,2) - 4 circles?
00:56:065 (1,2,3) - i think it's too simplified here..

[Expert]

00:06:120 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think you can reduce ds gradually rather than this, it will be easily misread as 1/2+1/4

For top diff: I think the style is totally fine for cs4.5 or even cs4, but you used 5.5. higher cs imo cannot reflect any particular ideas in this map, so i dont really agree with the usage of cs5.5.

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-06T06:35:25+00:00

will respond later (1-2 days probs) - education xd

About the CS on top diff though - I need to think heavily about what I do, 'cause it'll nerf it super hard (like 0,4-0,5*), which will make it on the lines of my Extra, but less dense. But yeah :3 I'll figure something out
Thanks in advance! o/

Asfand

241 posts

Joined November 2013

Asfand 2017-02-06T15:14:12+00:00

pp maps...

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-06T15:14:31+00:00

regN wrote:
pp maps...

memester lel

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-11T19:38:47+00:00

Yahuri wrote:
m4m pm~
welcome to nazi stacking & blankets pls enjoy ur stay
everything off by less than 2 pixels have been ignored

Normal
00:02:876 (1,2,3,4) - the intro is quite loud, so it feels underwhelming to me not to have hitsounds here. (you have hitsounding here on the other diffs btw) mistake lol fixed xd
00:09:363 (1,2) - fix DS not really noticeable but fixed
00:26:552 - uhhh did you mean to change the sampleset here? i think it should be auto :O Did some small fixes
00:37:254 (5) - ^ fixed
00:40:498 (1,3) - the first part of slider 3 doesnt line up exactly with the second part of 1, so you can stack head3 on tail1 -> line up -> move back done xd
00:41:633 (3,4) - kind of looks like it should be a blanket, considering how close the tail of 4 is to 3 Did the opposite
00:43:741 (2,3) - blanket looks weird cuz the sliderbody of 3 is closer to 2 than the head of 3 and the red anchor
00:47:309 - add clap? yoyoyo
00:54:119 (2,3) - rip DS making mistakes is my middle name
01:20:065 (2,3,1) - ive never seen anything like this in a Normal, it might be confusing cuz of the stack I disagree, other patterns are more confusing than this one
01:24:606 (1,2) - i dont really like how the flow looks here, i think it would be better if you curve the tail of 1 towards 2 rather than away from it. (also if you were trying to blanket 01:23:795 (5) its not perfect) did something
01:35:633 - remove clap I like the extra feedback there.

Extra
00:04:822 (1,2,3,4) - its fine but i think it would look better as a parallelogram I don't want linear flow
00:09:200 (6) - i dont think this note is strong enough to get this big of a jump reworked that section a bit
00:11:633 (1,3) - stack? ? xd it's already a stack
00:21:362 (2,2) - 2px stack lel :3
00:36:281 (4) - 00:36:930 (2) - ^ (move 4 otherwise ull have to move everything behind 2) zzz
00:38:714 (1,1) - blanket is off, sliderbody too close
00:49:092 (1,1) - blanket, both heads are too close to the slidertails
00:57:363 (1,1) - blanket Dx
00:59:309 (3) - move up 3 and right 2 -> perfect overlap with 00:58:498 (1). move 00:59:795 (5) - as well if you apply this change
00:59:633 (4,2) - moar 2px stack
01:46:984 (1,2) - ^
01:14:876 (4) - pls fix sampleset or addition idk what it is
01:20:552 (6) - move down 1px for perfect overlap with 01:19:903 (4). move 01:21:038 (2) - if you apply this
Fixed everything after this
Neptune
-i agree with Azusa, 5.5 seems a bit much. Kalibe's diff has CS4, Extra jumps back down to CS3, Syph's diff goes back up to CS4, then wew huge jump to CS5.5 so the CS spread seems weird imo. I would use CS5 at maximum. Stuff has been done, but not for the CS spread reason, 'cause that isn't a rankability thing and doesn't really matter for Extras too much. With that mindset CS7 would be obsolete xd
00:17:633 (3,5) - stack
00:18:930 (7,8) - ^
00:38:227 (1,1) - ^
00:44:876 (3,1) - ^
01:03:687 (1,3) - ^
01:06:444 (1,3) - ^ youll need to fix this too 01:06:930 (3,5)
01:26:714 (1,1) - ^
^ all fixed
01:14:552 (2) - the Normal default sounds awk cuz it only happens once in kiai done
01:15:687 (2) - add clap? done

Good luck! Thanks! :3

Spork Lover

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Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-11T20:11:28+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Normal]
00:02:876 (1,3) - guess you could avoid overlap here Intro is reworked :3
00:41:633 (3,4) - blanket feels off done
00:54:119 (2,3) - ds Fixed
01:06:444 (1,2,3) - the overlaps really feel messy in normal imo fixed
01:20:065 (2,3,1) - very confusing for new players.also can just 01:20:552 (3,1) - stack them as you did before reworked section (around 3-4 seconds)
01:48:768 (2) - ds fixed

[Extra]
00:21:687 (1,2) - 4 circles? ruins the pattern that I'm trying to do here imo
00:56:065 (1,2,3) - i think it's too simplified here.. I donno what else I would do, and I did the same on Neptune xd

[Expert]
00:06:120 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think you can reduce ds gradually rather than this, it will be easily misread as 1/2+1/4

For top diff: I think the style is totally fine for cs4.5 or even cs4, but you used 5.5. higher cs imo cannot reflect any particular ideas in this map, so i dont really agree with the usage of cs5.5. Nerfed outro and changed it to CS4.8.

Thanks guys

Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2017-02-11T21:39:30+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Expert]
00:06:120 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think you can reduce ds gradually rather than this, it will be easily misread as 1/2+1/4 haven't seen anyone misread it on testplays ;w; i don't think it's that hard considering its ar9,4 as well..

thanks owo

HappyRocket88

4,322 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2017-02-12T01:49:43+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Advanced]
00:18:930 (3,4,5) - ds should be consistent. also i think for this part ds is so small that objects almost overlapped. You're right but as well as it was done here 00:24:768 (7,1) - I highly believe the DS should vary slightly in order to emphasize these beats properly.
00:20:714 (2,4) - circle placement is bad cuz overlaps. I disagree. The stack of 00:21:363 (2) - disappears before players get to see the combo burst while clicking 00:22:011 (4) - Hence, it shouldn't be a big problem. o:
00:21:849 - 00:22:173 - also i think you shouldnt ignore them, so 2 sliders instead of 2 circles here. I partially agree but seeing how this segment was mapped I'd rather avoid adding more hitobjects here in order to keep balance the section here.
00:59:957 (1,2,3,4) - ..why suddenly so big ds? I N T E N S I T Y >w<
Very technical advanced with a lot of challenging stacks, sometimes they are too difficult for advanced, tho. Yeee /w\ Will nerf things if necessary. Thank you very much for the mod! >u<

Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-02-12T08:39:34+00:00

@My Angel Azusa fixed to slider + circle, thank you!

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Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2017-02-12T14:54:07+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
[Insane]
00:14:714 - note? want to be consistent with 00:43:092 (1,2,3,4) - 01:34:984 (1,2,3,4) - and etc.
00:16:498 - note here is better ok also fixed in later pattern
00:19:579 (1,2) - swap nc? also 00:20:065 (1) - cancel nc i did this specially to emphasis dum dum stack and then next combo to end sequence
00:24:768 (1,2,1) - same as above same
01:01:254 (1) - break it apart, 01:01:417 - should map this,so probably slider+circle alright
ctrl+A yea i know, but this is my old mapping style, I would have to remap the whole diff orz

thx!

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Source:新次元ゲイム ネプテューヌＶⅡ
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Spork Lover

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Spork Lover 2017-02-12T15:02:32+00:00

all updated!

Haruto

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Joined December 2013

Haruto 2017-02-21T10:25:06+00:00

Placeholder, sorry for waiting xd ~~i'll mod tonight~~ rip i got some home assignments to do from my mom lol so cant mod much for this night, plus i had exam tmrw so yea xd sorry xd i'll mod tmrw after school instead

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-02-21T20:01:34+00:00

Haruto wrote:
Placeholder, sorry for waiting xd ~~i'll mod tonight~~ rip i got some home assignments to do from my mom lol so cant mod much for this night, plus i had exam tmrw so yea xd sorry xd i'll mod tmrw after school instead

No worries take your time x]

Syph

Beatmap Nominator

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Syph 2017-03-06T14:41:56+00:00

when? ? ? ? / /? ? ? /

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

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Spork Lover 2017-03-06T20:49:04+00:00

no worries boi, I'm a lil' all over the place xd

Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

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Spork Lover 2017-03-07T22:47:49+00:00

I will put my Extra difficulty (The high CS one) into the description in 1-2 days, and then try pushing it forward again (had a discussion with a few people)

KappaPraise

316 posts

Joined November 2015

KappaPraise 2017-03-20T08:05:27+00:00

hi, here is my little mod

Syph's Dimension

00:04:336 (1) - since you used sharp jump for every nc, I suggest you do here same, imo pattern like this and next this could feels better imo
00:10:822 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - feels pretty uncomfortable when you use such huge jumps 00:10:822 (2,3,4) - next slows with triple and force player with another jump, I could suggest you move 00:10:984 (3) - at least somewhere here x:235 y:110 and may be you should add NC here 00:11:471 (7) - ?
00:12:119 (2,3,4) - copy 00:12:606 (5,6,7) - paste and rotate for 60 degree? xd
00:26:714 (4,1,2,1) - absolutely unreadable imo, this 00:26:714 (4,1) - 1/1, but this 00:27:444 (2,1) - 1/4 + 00:27:038 (1,2) - and 00:27:444 (2,1) - 1/4 feels really confusing
00:37:903 (11) - could be better use NC here instead of here 00:38:227 (1) - to warning player about 1/1 or may be on both circles
00:39:525 (2,3) - 1/2 and 00:40:173 (5,1) - 1/4 looks almost similar
00:57:525 - imo this vocal not such important to make it clickable, I could remove 00:57:525 (2,2) - this circles or at least make sliders 00:57:363 (1,1) - instead, also I think you should swap NCs between them 00:57:363 (1,2) - and remove NC here 00:57:687 (1) - since 00:57:525 - feels like new part with vocal
01:11:309 (7) - add NC here please
01:19:092 (7) - ^ and etc

Expert

00:32:714 (1) - ctrl+g and move little higher feels better after reverse imo
00:34:984 (2) - move somewhere to x:250 y:100 this jumps feels better with sharper angle
00:47:795 (1) - if you rotate it for ~15 degree its could fits more with this 00:47:309 (2) - slider imo
00:51:687 (6,7) - I could suggest you make here little overmap with same triple like here 00:51:038 - this jumps not feels good imo, but repeating works well here imo
00:53:957 - I hear like here should be triple with slider
01:13:092 (3,1) - sharper angle please xd also I could suggest you make something like stream in and slider out with this 01:13:254 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - for example one two

Syph

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Syph 2017-03-26T17:14:22+00:00

WISPG_G wrote:
hi, here is my little mod

Syph's Dimension
00:04:336 (1) - since you used sharp jump for every nc, I suggest you do here same, imo pattern like this and next this could feels better imo how is this not a sharp jump though
00:10:822 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - feels pretty uncomfortable when you use such huge jumps 00:10:822 (2,3,4) - next slows with triple and force player with another jump, I could suggest you move 00:10:984 (3) - at least somewhere here x:235 y:110 and may be you should add NC here 00:11:471 (7) - ? don't see how this is uncomfortable at all, it's just normal movement found in any maps lol
00:12:119 (2,3,4) - copy 00:12:606 (5,6,7) - paste and rotate for 60 degree? xd why?
00:26:714 (4,1,2,1) - absolutely unreadable imo, this 00:26:714 (4,1) - 1/1, but this 00:27:444 (2,1) - 1/4 + 00:27:038 (1,2) - and 00:27:444 (2,1) - 1/4 feels really confusing it's fine
00:37:903 (11) - could be better use NC here instead of here 00:38:227 (1) - to warning player about 1/1 or may be on both circles rather keep it like this to indicate 1 is actually a new section
00:39:525 (2,3) - 1/2 and 00:40:173 (5,1) - 1/4 looks almost similar which is fine? emphasis is a thing
00:57:525 - imo this vocal not such important to make it clickable, I could remove 00:57:525 (2,2) - this circles or at least make sliders 00:57:363 (1,1) - instead, also I think you should swap NCs between them 00:57:363 (1,2) - and remove NC here 00:57:687 (1) - since 00:57:525 - feels like new part with vocal i want to map this vocal though ):
01:11:309 (7) - add NC here please for what reason
01:19:092 (7) - ^ and etc

no changes, sorry

Spork Lover

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Spork Lover 2017-05-04T12:03:30+00:00

Mir is probably throwing a mod on this soon since I'm doing M4M with him - I'm sorry for delaying the set for so long, i'm probably reworking/re-polishing my expert and normal later

Mir

osu! Alumni

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Mir 2017-05-07T16:08:21+00:00

Hi there! I'm super fucking late, I'm so sorry.

This song is apparently blues.

SPOILER

[

General]

Unused BG file "Neps diff BG"
Sliderborder override and slider track override aren't consistent, but not a big deal I think.

[]

[

Fucking Lower Diff]

01:06:930 - Gap at the end is very awkward imo. Maybe try filling it with a circle on the white? It might help solidify the 4/4 rhythm a bit more too.
01:49:092 (1) - Really subjective point but I would probably make this a circle to give the ending more impact. A slider here doesn't really have as much impact for me. xD

Not much to say here actually, I'm not too sure about a lot of your triangle patterns like 01:10:173 (1,2,3,1,2) - cuz they can feel awkward and snappy for a newer player on top of being difficult to read.

[

Rocket's Advanced]

Hi lol it's me again.

I don't know what to say about this diff really, it's kind of out of my comfort zone in terms of concept, and if I'm honest feels a bit overdone in said concepts. The overlapping/stacking could be difficult to read especially since you use low stack leniency and some of your rhythm kinda irks me like 00:06:119 (3,1,2) - where the end of one sounds totally clickable and isn't + NC should probably be on 2. 00:07:092 (3,4,1) - Could be hard to read because of the flow you make the player perform and stuff like 00:18:930 (3,4,5,1) - could also be hard to read due to DS inconsistency for the jump and the perfect stacking + overlap.

I got a friend of mine that can play around this level and he said it felt kind of unnatural and too dense, so maybe get other people's opinions on that.

[

Akitoshi's Hard]

00:57:525 (1,2,3,4) - I feel like the slider is covering the strong sounds here. Circles there would work better, and if you want maybe change the 1,2,3 to be a slider somewhere for contrast.
01:23:633 (2) - Not sure if you share the same sentiment but I think 01:23:795 - deserves to be clickable since it's quite a powerful beat in the song. Though I don't really know how to suggest a way to make this change fit your rhythm so far.
01:30:930 (1,2,3,4,5) - Looks like it should be a star? http://i.imgur.com/TxPKCoj.png

[

Kaleeb's Insane]

00:11:957 (1,1) - The two sliders here look kind of out of place next to each other. Maybe make them the same?
00:30:606 (2,3,1) - Visual distance could be improved.
00:46:498 (2) - Could definitely be two circles for click emphasis, and there's the opportunity to make a jump into 00:46:822 (1) - which sounds deserving of it imo.
00:38:227 (1) - 00:48:606 (1) - could be circles because the vocals are quite distinct. Also feels weird having this as a slider where 00:38:714 (3) - is a slider too and the vocal isn't distinct enough on the tail.
01:07:579 (4,1) - Blanket this? Would improve visual distance between 01:06:930 (2,3,4) and look a little nicer imo.

[

Expert]

00:38:227 (1) - Same reason as Insane, distinct vocals could be mapped with circles and spaced to create a jump to 00:38:714 (1).
00:53:471 (1) - Would center these like http://i.imgur.com/VTVAUni.png personally, looks better.

Actually not much wrong with this other than the aesthetic is really lacking. I like it.

[

Syph's Dimension]

00:09:038 (6,3) - Looks a little too close for comfort, maybe space 3 a bit. // 01:29:470 (6,3) -
00:58:498 (1) - Personally I'd make this an extended slider, since making 00:58:822 - clickable would put more stress on 00:58:984 (2) - which I think it deserves.
01:25:903 (1,2) - Um this emphasis looks really really lacking for such strong sounds when you have spacing like 01:23:471 (2,3,4) - for much weaker ones. Consider buffing by.. a lot?
01:42:687 (10,1) - Introducing a streamjump this late is a bit unfair, maybe remove this since you never used one before for similar sounds in the intro. 01:45:605 (4,1) - As well is introduced way too late, should be nerfed unless you plan to use it earlier.

Good luck!

Syph

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Syph 2017-05-07T17:05:05+00:00

Mir wrote:
Hi there! I'm super fucking late, I'm so sorry.

[ Syph's Dimension]
00:09:038 (6,3) - Looks a little too close for comfort, maybe space 3 a bit. // 01:29:470 (6,3) - whattt I like how this looks and it doesn't even affect gameplay ;_;

00:58:498 (1) - Personally I'd make this an extended slider, since making 00:58:822 - clickable would put more stress on 00:58:984 (2) - which I think it deserves. I don't think the sound on red tick is strong enough to make it clickable personally

01:25:903 (1,2) - Um this emphasis looks really really lacking for such strong sounds when you have spacing like 01:23:471 (2,3,4) - for much weaker ones. Consider buffing by.. a lot? you're right, fixed~

01:42:687 (10,1) - Introducing a streamjump this late is a bit unfair, maybe remove this since you never used one before for similar sounds in the intro. 01:45:605 (4,1) - As well is introduced way too late, should be nerfed unless you plan to use it earlier. while it'd make sense when it'd be a longer song, this is just a TV size so I don't really get the chance to introduce this much earlier lol, besides because of this I've kept the jumps really small on purpose. I think these parts kinda deserve them though so I'm keeping it like this~

Good luck!

thanks for the mod~
changed some stuff myself too so ya

bad map

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Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

Spork Lover 2017-05-07T18:02:31+00:00

Mir wrote:
Hi there! I'm super fucking late, I'm so sorry. You shouldn't be, you had other stuff to do ^^

This song is apparently blues. We ALL know that nep likes those swing rhythms :^)
SPOILER

[ General]
Unused BG file "Neps diff BG" Oh yeah I deleted the diff, fixed.

Sliderborder override and slider track override aren't consistent, but not a big deal I think. I remember that HR88 wanted to use a sliderborder and body colors, so I'm totally fine with him doing that, doesn't have to be all the way

[ Fucking Lower Diff]
01:06:930 - Gap at the end is very awkward imo. Maybe try filling it with a circle on the white? It might help solidify the 4/4 rhythm a bit more too. Made the slider a reverse, since that makes it a lot easier to follow.

01:49:092 (1) - Really subjective point but I would probably make this a circle to give the ending more impact. A slider here doesn't really have as much impact for me. xD I guess it can do both ways, but I feel like a cool slider would be nicer on a normal
Not much to say here actually, I'm not too sure about a lot of your triangle patterns like 01:10:173 (1,2,3,1,2) - cuz they can feel awkward and snappy for a newer player on top of being difficult to read. I actually re-tweaked all the ambiguous shapes to something more simple, because they sometimes overlap the sliderborder and/or body a bit, which in turn should make the triangle stuff a little more simple to grasp for newer players.

[ Expert]
00:38:227 (1) - Same reason as Insane, distinct vocals could be mapped with circles and spaced to create a jump to 00:38:714 (1). Considering that I'm actually doing an ascending SV thing here, I'm kinda mixed, since I found that to be more suitable than "just" jumps, since I use bursts w/ kicksliders a lot more in this xd idk, I might change it at a later time.

00:53:471 (1) - Would center these like http://i.imgur.com/VTVAUni.png personally, looks better. In this case I find it better to have it on the slider start/end for playability's sake.
Actually not much wrong with this other than the aesthetic is really lacking. I like it. I can agree with you that the aesthetics are lacking considering this map is like 3 months old, so I'll rework aesthetics in some parts to make it better to look at in some parts Happy that you like the diff overall tho!
(I also ended up changing flow a bit in some spots xddd)

Good luck! Thanks!!

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2017-05-21T01:01:05+00:00

Hello~ m4m here

[Syph's Dimension]

00:12:606 (5,6) - these shouldn't have claps imo. missclick?
00:20:390 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - idk but for me this feels a lot like a nc spam for a very quiet part. I think it's fine having such pattern, but why NC?
00:33:363 - 00:34:660 - why these claps? I don't really think there should go them...
00:30:444 (2,3) - Don't really like how you use such low spacing here, and then 00:30:768 (4,5,6,7) - here you use big jumps for same section. Personally I'd go for a 1/2 slider 00:30:606 - here.
00:33:849 (5,1) - Here you follow drums, while 00:29:957 (1) - here you don't + you skip 00:30:119 - this strong beat which I think deserves to be mapped. At least try to be consistent with this.
00:53:471 (1) - I do believe you can improve the structure of this slider with some symmetry.
01:01:417 (2,2,1) - maybe you can make them have same DS between each other? And also make a linear shape
01:13:903 (1) - stack it on 01:12:768 (1) - tail?

[Expert]
00:10:984 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - as far as I can hear, the only triplet here should be 00:11:146 - 00:11:227 - 00:11:309 - . The rest is overmapped D: Same for latest part.
00:14:552 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Same for these.
00:19:579 - 00:24:768 - Imo you should make something else to emphasize this kind of drum. Making everything slider makes it feel... boring and simple.
00:27:363 - triple?
00:34:660 - Why skipping this beat? It's very strong to not map it.
00:36:525 - triple?
00:35:146 - aaa I'm very confused on why you use such high SV here (1.7x) and then use 1.5x for the kiai x.x You should consider it i guess. Having such long slider on this intro section doesn't really suit imo.
00:45:687 (1) - Similar with Syph's, don't really get why you don't map to the vocals here, while you do this 00:41:633 (1) - before D:
00:55:984 - maybe add a note here?
01:03:200 - 01:03:363 - I think those beats deserve to be clickabe. For that you could maybe make 01:02:390 - this a long slider? Some kind of slider-art?~
01:23:227 - triple?
01:26:957 (3) - imo this note should be mapped, there's nothing there if you compare with 01:27:119 -
01:41:795 - Since you mapped this on previous section, feels weird to have nothing in here D:
01:49:092 (1) - nc here isn't necessary imo since they all have same DS.

You told me that this diff of yours is a bit old so yeah. Imo you should check a few rhythms you mixed. For example 01:03:687 (1,3) - 01:06:444 (1,2) - etc, you follow vocals, but then sometimes you follow instruments (01:14:714 (3,4,5,6) - 01:17:146 (2,3) - etc) and it's kinda noticeable. Consider making it consistent

[Kalibe's Insane]
00:14:714 - Since you mapped the rest of the red ticks, I think you should do the same with this. Really feels like it's empty + it has similar sound as other sliders so yeah.
00:50:714 (5,1) - maybe blanket?
01:11:795 (2,1) - I don't think that having 2 nc for these is a good idea. Maybe you can make 01:11:633 (1,2,1,2) - all these have the same nc?
01:34:984 (1) - same as before. I really feel like it should be mapped with a slider or something

[Akitoshi's Hard]
fine

[Rocket's Advanced]
00:24:768 (7,1) - Having such DS for this "quiet" part feels a bit overdone imo. Mainly because you use similar DS for all this section, even for 00:25:903 (3,1) - which is clearly stronger. Rearranging the pattern a bit could make it.
01:41:795 (2,4) - maybe avoid this kind of overlap? This is the only overlap like this i believe. you mostly do 01:30:282 (2,1) - 01:33:039 (3,1) - these instead

[Normal]
fine

Okay that's all from me. GL!!

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