JapanYoshiTheGamer wrote:

Hello from my mod queue!

Personally, it was hard for me to see any faults in the map. However, I do have one minor nitpick: There's no kiai time in this map, which may make this map unrankable. If I had to choose a spot, I'd put it from 00:37:500 to 00:45:000, just so we can have some kind of final stretch.

Shortthu wrote:

o/ #modreqs Hi i'm a random modder

General

1. 00:45:000 - You can make this note clickable in every diff. nah
2. Seems like i'm modding the flows lol
3. The difficulty spread between Easy and Normal is just... too far away...? The SV of Normal is just x2 of Easy and the whole map is like x2 of Easy too. its ok while Easy to Normal is 1* and Normal to Hard is 1.1* also SV is fine while its between Easy and HArd
4. Turn of DS to apply this mod xd (especially in hard)lolwat

Easy

1. The setting in this diff is pretty low make this map wayyyyy easier with low bpm and half rhythm. I would bump OD to 1.5 and OD to 2. HP2 OD2
2. 00:03:750 (1,2) - This will look better with circular flow. Just move it down for a bit https://puu.sh/vOEVf/0c47fb4971.png Breaks DS, do something else
3. 00:18:750 (1,2,3) - Move 00:20:625 (3) - up for a bit and you will have a perfect triangle :>
   If you decide to, move it together with 00:21:562 (4,1) - move change the slider tail of 00:22:500 (1) - down a bit to prevent overlap I dont want a triangle here :< seems too sharp
4. 00:21:562 (4,1) - The linear flow is a little bit... off? https://puu.sh/vOFbT/d003ab8fdb.png should be better now
5. 00:30:000 (1) - This look like an 2010 slider hoyl https://puu.sh/vOFeB/a17925a6e5.png. You can redraw this slider to make it look nicer. wat, my slider doesnt looks like that loool, fix your editor :p
6. 00:36:562 (4,1) - Move the slider head a bit to the right and good flow here we come https://puu.sh/vOFis/1273ee7bbd.png

Normal

1. 00:00:000 (1,2) - Linear flow https://puu.sh/vOFBo/acb3729323.png something else
2. 00:01:640 (4,1) - Circular flow https://puu.sh/vOFF6/52ddcc24a8.png
3. 00:02:578 (2) - You can make this slider go straight or adjust it to make the circular flow with 00:01:875 (1) - (it will look nicer if you apply the mod before) It's like something you did at 00:05:625 (1,2) -
4. 00:20:390 - Why you skip this beat keep mapping important beat
5. 00:27:187 (3,4) - Fix blanket x d
6. 00:27:890 (4,4) - Those are kinda overlap https://puu.sh/vOFSI/e2ad5a9a69.png they have long gap so not problem
7. 00:30:937 (3,4) - Circular flow. Select 00:31:640 (4,1) - and move them up, not only the flow at 00:30:937 (3,4) - look nicer, it can make the flow at 00:31:875 (1,2) - look nicer, too. Do something else
8. 00:38:203 (2,3,4) - F l o w. You can rotate 00:38:437 (3) -6 degree, move them like This so you can have a good flow + an extra blanket at 00:39:140 (4,1) - Do something to prevent DS being broke
9. 00:39:140 (4,3) - Look kinda overlap https://puu.sh/vOGb6/ce018a48c7.png saem as above
10. 00:42:890 - Why skip this beat lul ^

Hard

1. 00:00:468 (2,3,4) - I don't like how you make 00:00:468 (2,3) - go straight so imo just make them like this. triangletriangletriangletriangletriangle
2. 00:05:390 (4,2) - Make them overlap with 00:07:031 (4) - 's slider tail. (you can pick 00:05:390 (4,1,2) - and move them) breaks spacing
3. 00:12:890 (4,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Monstrata when (well they look just fine)
4. 00:31:406 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - ^
5. 00:36:093 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^ kek
6. 00:15:703 (3) - Like the beginning of this diff, move 00:15:703 (3) - up. break stack with 00:13:125 (1) -
7. 00:17:343 (3,4) - Isn't they look toooo far away in a Hard diff? slow bpm so okay also its slowly increase spacing
8. 00:19:687 (4,5) - To make them more readable move 00:20:156 (5) - down for a bit.
9. 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4) - Hoyl far jump (but keep them is fine imo) [b]same as above~[/b]
10. 00:43:125 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ^ ^
11. 00:28:828 (4,5) - Circular flow.
12. 00:36:562 (1,2,1) - Circular flow, rotate 00:37:500 (1) - around 20 degree
    You can move 00:38:203 (2) - to make the blanket with 00:37:500 (1) - if you rotated 00:37:500 (1) -
13. 00:42:656 (4) - Move to the right a bit to make it more readable. did you mean left?

Maybe that's all! Good luck!
Rip 169 post kek

Error- wrote:

Shortthu wrote:

Easy

1. 00:30:000 (1) - This look like an 2010 slider hoyl https://puu.sh/vOFeB/a17925a6e5.png. You can redraw this slider to make it look nicer. wat, my slider doesnt looks like that loool, fix your editor :p

Actually i was drag out the middle point to see what kind of slider is it lol

MasterHerobrine wrote:

M4M. Sorry, I forget about modding first. :p

[Easy]
00:00:937 (2) - I maybe made here circle and then a slider, for me it sounds better, than a slider, because circle is placed on a beat and slider starts on a background sax sounds. 1 keeping it simple
00:08:437 (3) - ^?
00:28:125 (3,4,1) - I think, there will better to make an slider reflection. I have made this reflection, imo it's will better. Something else
00:45:000 (1) - why do not end it on 00:47:812 ? end of the sound is 00:48:281
[Normal]
00:09:375 (1,2,3) - I think this slider and some movings will be better for Normal. 1 nah
00:33:281 (3) - move ending shape from X260 Y272 to X260 Y276 to make a parallel sliders. parallel with what kek
00:45:000 (1) - why not ending on 00:47:812 ?
[Hard]
00:18:281 (5,6,7) - oh, we returned into 2008? I think this triple needed a changes to a slider or needed to replace the circles smh. since when something like this is a 2008 ish, lol, anyway since its still reflect to the beat also the spacing still good for that triple, it should be fineee
00:45:000 (1) - why not ending on 00:47:812 ? I really understand it, because it'll be better and all will synced with a beat.
Also too much triangles for me in the Hard. monstrata
GL with the map. Really good work.

1. 00:10:078 (3) - It feels weird to play with vertical pattern. Make it horizontal ? Agreed with Nokashi's mod .
2. 00:48:281 (4) - I think it's not a big issue but I would put this to x=152 for consistency with 00:47:343 (2) - and also gives little movement IMO.

Weber wrote:

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Lone Pixel wrote:

I'm late with that mod, I know, but I don't play osu very often ....

Hard

This is a really good map, I don't have much to say.
00:19:687 (4,5) - Are you aware of that: The two notes that are played in quick succession come exactly here 00:20:156 and here 00:20:185, but you placed the end of the slider and the beginning of the new slider here 00:20:126 and here 00:20:156 so 1/16? If you are aware of it, you probably did it on purpose, so the second slider doesn't begin in the nowhere of 1/16 but on a white tick. You could also leave it like that, I just wanted you to know about it. just wanna say, use 25% speed
You could do something similar here 00:06:328 (3) and here 00:28:828 (4). Maybe with a circle just 1/16 before the slider but on the same position. I think that would fit very well. hmm, nah, no sound tho
Super small thing: 00:31:875 (1,2,3,4) - the spacing here between all the notes is perfect, but a bit smaller then before: 00:30:468 (1,2,3) - looked a bit strange when playing. nah

Sorry, after all this time you only get this small feedback, but I really can't find anything else.

MBomb's Platter

I have zero experience in modding CtB, so I'll just say that it's a nice feeling when playing this map. There are no such things as "mistakes" here.

Normal

00:13:125 (1,2) - Just recognized that you have very few reverse sliders in your maps, but despite that fact this doesn't feel right. I'd prefer something like that: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8173792 I prefer the original one
00:20:625 (1,2) - Same here, but I would use 3 circles for the 3 same notes in the music.
When the music repeats, these two things also repeat for sure.
If you want to use more reverse sliders, I'd put one here 00:41:250 (1,2,3) - from the end of (1) with the arrow at the (2) to the beginning of the (3). I prefer the original one

Easy

I can't find anything here. If you get in contact with a very new player let him play this map and find out where he/she struggles the most.

I hope this gets ranked, I like the original song and your map very much, don't you think you could think of some cool pun references from sans in the diff names? lol I'm not a PUNny guy xd Good luck!

Nokashi wrote:

Hello There!
Requested by MBomb

Platter

1. 00:02:812 (4,5) - Normal dash here for consistency with 00:01:875 (1,2) - . The sounds are rather similar. - Mainly kept it that way because of the pitch being lower on that one.
2. 00:10:078 (3) - A bit too vertical in my opinion. It could have offered some more movement if it was more horizontal. Will also make it more consistent movement wise with 00:05:625 (1,2,3,4) - which is more intense, yet the same rhythm as here - Changed a bit.
3. 00:13:359 (2) - Ctrl-H here would work here since the entrance to this object feels rather forced based on the sudden movement to the other direction the moment this object is reached. Moreover its pretty close to the edge so moving it a bit to the left could work nicely. Similar point here 00:43:125 (1,2) - - Feels nicer as a HDash with the song to me.
4. 00:21:562 (3,4,5,6) - You could try a 2 1/2 slider pattern here instead of 4 circles so as to place more emphasis on the stronger sounds on the white ticks - Disagree with this, because of this generally being pitch mapped, the 1/2 notes are actually where the dashes are to here, so having a 4 circle pattern makes more sense.
5. 00:25:312 (4,5) - Normal Dash here, pretty inconsistent with 00:24:375 (1,2) - . Even though they are the same sound, the one implies a walk and the other a dash - Different pitches again.

Nothing much to say. This diff is pretty ready

-Hex- wrote:

Hello.
How to mod (My second mods).

[MBomb's Platter]
Consider to change AR/OD to 7.5 ? . It fits well IMO. - I agree it's a little low, 7.2 works fine for me though.

1. 00:10:078 (3) - It feels weird to play with vertical pattern. Make it horizontal ? Agreed with Nokashi's mod . - Didn't go with horizontal but went with a bit of a different shape.
2. 00:48:281 (4) - I think it's not a big issue but I would put this to x=152 for consistency with 00:47:343 (2) - and also gives little movement IMO. - Prefer having a decreased distance to 4 as 3 is stronger than 4 here.

It's clean diff so I don't have much to say. No kds if not helpful.

osu file format v14

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- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Nokashi wrote:

Hello There!
Requested by MBomb

Platter

1. 00:02:812 (4,5) - Normal dash here for consistency with 00:01:875 (1,2) - . The sounds are rather similar. - Mainly kept it that way because of the pitch being lower on that one.
2. 00:10:078 (3) - A bit too vertical in my opinion. It could have offered some more movement if it was more horizontal. Will also make it more consistent movement wise with 00:05:625 (1,2,3,4) - which is more intense, yet the same rhythm as here - Changed a bit.
3. 00:13:359 (2) - Ctrl-H here would work here since the entrance to this object feels rather forced based on the sudden movement to the other direction the moment this object is reached. Moreover its pretty close to the edge so moving it a bit to the left could work nicely. Similar point here 00:43:125 (1,2) - - Feels nicer as a HDash with the song to me.
4. 00:21:562 (3,4,5,6) - You could try a 2 1/2 slider pattern here instead of 4 circles so as to place more emphasis on the stronger sounds on the white ticks - Disagree with this, because of this generally being pitch mapped, the 1/2 notes are actually where the dashes are to here, so having a 4 circle pattern makes more sense.
5. 00:25:312 (4,5) - Normal Dash here, pretty inconsistent with 00:24:375 (1,2) - . Even though they are the same sound, the one implies a walk and the other a dash - Different pitches again.

Nothing much to say. This diff is pretty ready

-Hex- wrote:

Hello.
How to mod (My second mods).

[MBomb's Platter]
Consider to change AR/OD to 7.5 ? . It fits well IMO. - I agree it's a little low, 7.2 works fine for me though.

1. 00:10:078 (3) - It feels weird to play with vertical pattern. Make it horizontal ? Agreed with Nokashi's mod . - Didn't go with horizontal but went with a bit of a different shape.
2. 00:48:281 (4) - I think it's not a big issue but I would put this to x=152 for consistency with 00:47:343 (2) - and also gives little movement IMO. - Prefer having a decreased distance to 4 as 3 is stronger than 4 here.

It's clean diff so I don't have much to say. No kds if not helpful.

Thanks for the mods!

Monstrata wrote:

Hard

00:16:640 (5,1,2,3,4) - Imo, this isn't a good structure. 2>3>4 gets way too big compared tot he rest of the map. Use a square structure like 00:08:906 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - instead. Don't use a parallelogram structure cuz it'll cause problems with spacing like what happened here.
00:15:937 (4,5,1,2) - Also when setting up the flow, something like this would work better. It's okay not to respect emphasis on the white tick sometimes if it contributes to better flow and structure. That's how I would have approached it anyways.

~

00:27:890 (5,1,2) - Integrate this into the structure too? 5>2 is a bit too close compared to 1>2 hmm I guess no, since 00:28:125 (1) - 's sound is higher than 00:27:890 (5) - so made the spacing way higher.
00:33:750 (1,2) - This spacing looks too much like your usual 1/2 jumps. Use a bigger spacing

like this

00:37:265 (2,1) - Jump here for emphasis instead? linear flow is kinda meh too xP

Normal

00:03:281 (3,1) - Blanket.
00:07:500 (1,3) - etc..

Looks like you can improve your blankets still xP. Please go over the map again, or ask someone to mod for blankets cuz there are a bunch and it shouldn't be my job to point them out.

Easy

00:30:000 (5) - Missing NC.

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I think you need a difficulty between Easy and Normal... your Normal diff is almost fully 1/2 rhythm while your Easy is fully 1/1 rhythm. You should add a diff that uses a combination of 50% 1/1 and 1/2 for a better spread imo...

The set is good though, so you can call me back when the set is ready again!

Error- wrote:

okaay so Ill explain things

1. even through it feels like 1/2 everywhere in normal, it does often have 1/1 thingy, since I really often use 1/1 here, thats why I dont really want a 1/1 gap, instead of it, I replace it with 1/1, So doesnt really quiet, and also not really hard.

2. Its mixed both from Easy and Hard, for example 00:01:640 (4,1,2) - , this is a mix from hard's 00:01:640 (5,1,2,3) - and Easy's 00:00:937 (2,3,4) - , since Hard is a 1/2 objects, instead of it, I replace it with 2 1/1 slider 00:01:875 (1,2) - here, and so on in the beatmap.

3. Even so I only use 1/1 gap twice in the diff, it doesn't really broke the spread, as i said before, so much 1/1 slider, so that'll be stable with the 1/2 and 1/2 sliders. Also I rarely do 1/2 sliders, only some of it.

4. Keeping it not really quiet, as I said in 1, since 1/1 is pretty much quiet in this 128BPM, I tried to not to use it, except with a 1/2 gap after it.

5. If im counting between 1/1 sliders and 1/2 circles + sliders, probaly it just only around 60-65% of it, but doesnt count the 1/2 gap, so I guess its ok for a Normal diff, also this still plays good on newer players, with some testplaying.

Not really that much, But I'll recall you when its ready.

1. Personally I think AR7.2 makes things look a bit cramped, so I'd go for a slightly higher AR. I think AR7.4 is a good compromise between decomprising things a bit and keeping the AR low due to the BPM.
2. 00:01:406 (4,1,2) - Personally I find it weird that (4,1) is considerably shorter than (1,2), but I know you'll say you're mapping to the pitch. That put aside, I think the pattern plays a bit uncomfortable due to the successive antiflow and that the dash felt a bit tight; to me the pattern plays much more comfortable if you put 00:01:875 (1) - on x:264.
3. 00:03:750 (1,2) - This distance is rather ambiguous after the HDash, as it looks walkable due to the 1/1 spacing but that requires a fairly decent timing. Considering this is you, make it clearer by increasing the distance a bit.
4. 00:05:859 (2,3,4) - Rather harsh considering the dash before the HDash is quite tight and antiflow. Since you can't really move (3) to the right because it will take out the HDash, I'd move (2) a bit to the left.
5. 00:06:328 (4,5) - This dash also feels a bit tight to me. I'd move 00:07:031 (5,1) - to x:200 to decrease the dash a bit while keeping the next HDash.
6. 00:08:906 (4,1,2) - This is inconsistent with your previous spacing, as you didn't have double dashes on similar sounds. I'd remove the (4,1) one if you want to stay loyal to your "pitch mapping" concept.
7. 00:10:078 (3,4) - This is way too tight a dash. I'd move 00:10:546 (4,1) - to x:168.
8. 00:11:250 (1,2) - Quite a tight distance to walk, I'd increase it a bit to make it clearer that a dash is more comfortable to reach it.
9. 00:12:656 (4,1,2) - This pattern not only goes against your concept of pitch mapping, but has a tight dash going to an HDash that lands on an antiflow movement, the latest part being currently unrankable - whatever our thoughts on that rule. So one option would be to move (1) to the right to make (4,1) a fully walkable distance and have (1,2) being a dash instead, as I can't really find ways to keep the HDash without remapping previous parts.
10. 00:13:359 (2,3) - Another dash that feels a bit too tight for me, I'd move (3) a couple gridspaces to the right.
11. 00:15:000 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that looks walkable due to the spacing, but it's actually uncomfortable to play, so I'd increase the distance to make a clearer dash.
12. 00:16:406 (4,1,2) - Again, the pattern feels a bit harsh due to a (a bit) tight dash landing into an HDash, all accompanied by direction changes. I found that moving 00:16:406 (4) -, in line with the previous suggestion, also solved this issue.
13. 00:17:109 (2,3) - I'd just put these a bit closer (like x:200 for (3)) just to add some leniency to the dash in case players overshoot the HDash a bit.
14. 00:20:156 (4,1,2) - Yet again, I think that the dash into HDash plays a bit harsh. Maybe you can move (4) to the right a bit, to make (1) into a walkable distance or, at least, a more lenient dash.
15. 00:20:859 (2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern demands quite some dash control to it, so I'd reduce the distance of the normal dashes a bit to add some leniency. I'd also reduce 00:21:796 (4,5) - a bit, since players that overshoot the dash might not be able to walk it.
16. 00:22:500 (1,2) - Again, this 1/1 distance is a bit ambiguous. I'd move 00:22:968 (2,3) - a couple gridspaces to the right.
17. 00:24:375 (1,2) - I'd reduce the distance between these a bit, by moving (2) to x:176 or x:168.
18. 00:26:250 (1,2) - I also found this distance to be rather ambiguous, so you know what to do.
19. 00:28:593 (3,4) - I'd move this to x:24, to add some leniency to the dash before the HDash and also to avoid clashing into the wall, should players overshoot the dash.
20. 00:30:000 (1,2) - Another distance that I consider ambiguous, so make it clearer by either reducing or increasing the distance.
21. 00:31:406 (4,1,2) - Having the double dash kinda contradicts your "pitch mapping" concept, so I'd go for a walkable distance for the first pair.
22. 00:32:578 (3,4) - I'd add some leniency to this dash by moving (4) to x:248.
23. 00:33:750 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that can be considered ambiguous.
24. 00:35:156 (4,1,2) - And another recurring issue, I'd reduce the distance of the dash a bit to add some leniency.
25. 00:37:500 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that can be considered ambiguous.
26. 00:38:906 (4,1,2) - And the same thing as mentioned for 00:35:156 (4,1,2) - and several others.
27. 00:41:250 (1,2) - More of this ambiguous 1/1 distance.
28. 00:42:656 (4,1,2) - And more of the demanding dash into HDash thing.
29. 00:44:062 (3,4,5,6,1) - The same thing mentioned for 00:20:859 (2,3,4,5,6) - applies here.

ZiRoX wrote:

MB requested a check on this.

1. Personally I think AR7.2 makes things look a bit cramped, so I'd go for a slightly higher AR. I think AR7.4 is a good compromise between decomprising things a bit and keeping the AR low due to the BPM. - Alright sure.
2. 00:01:406 (4,1,2) - Personally I find it weird that (4,1) is considerably shorter than (1,2), but I know you'll say you're mapping to the pitch. That put aside, I think the pattern plays a bit uncomfortable due to the successive antiflow and that the dash felt a bit tight; to me the pattern plays much more comfortable if you put 00:01:875 (1) - on x:264. - x:272 instead.
3. 00:03:750 (1,2) - This distance is rather ambiguous after the HDash, as it looks walkable due to the 1/1 spacing but that requires a fairly decent timing. Considering this is you, make it clearer by increasing the distance a bit. - I think I'd rather leave it how it is, it's intended to be a dash but to avoid being too difficult after the HDash, and I think at this level, dash control should be able to handle letting go early here.
4. 00:05:859 (2,3,4) - Rather harsh considering the dash before the HDash is quite tight and antiflow. Since you can't really move (3) to the right because it will take out the HDash, I'd move (2) a bit to the left. - Done.
5. 00:06:328 (4,5) - This dash also feels a bit tight to me. I'd move 00:07:031 (5,1) - to x:200 to decrease the dash a bit while keeping the next HDash. - Disagree here, just because this one is normal flow so the slightly higher distance is fine in my opinion.
6. 00:08:906 (4,1,2) - This is inconsistent with your previous spacing, as you didn't have double dashes on similar sounds. I'd remove the (4,1) one if you want to stay loyal to your "pitch mapping" concept. - This is different to the previous part, as 1 has that trumpet on it, which makes it stick out as stronger.
7. 00:10:078 (3,4) - This is way too tight a dash. I'd move 00:10:546 (4,1) - to x:168. - Not sure if I'd agree with "way too tight", but it was definitely tighter than other distances, so decreased to make it more consistent.
8. 00:11:250 (1,2) - Quite a tight distance to walk, I'd increase it a bit to make it clearer that a dash is more comfortable to reach it. - Again, I think a platter player would know to dash here, and I don't want to make it harsher, because I want to avoid it being too strong after the HDash.
9. 00:12:656 (4,1,2) - This pattern not only goes against your concept of pitch mapping, but has a tight dash going to an HDash that lands on an antiflow movement, the latest part being currently unrankable - whatever our thoughts on that rule. So one option would be to move (1) to the right to make (4,1) a fully walkable distance and have (1,2) being a dash instead, as I can't really find ways to keep the HDash without remapping previous parts. - Going for a dash to the trumpet here, and I would say the slider isn't antiflow after a HDash due to the starting vertical motion on the slider, so that doesn't break the RC.
10. 00:13:359 (2,3) - Another dash that feels a bit too tight for me, I'd move (3) a couple gridspaces to the right. - Again, would agree if there was antiflow, but I think this is fine with the normal flow.
11. 00:15:000 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that looks walkable due to the spacing, but it's actually uncomfortable to play, so I'd increase the distance to make a clearer dash. - Made this one slightly clearer.
12. 00:16:406 (4,1,2) - Again, the pattern feels a bit harsh due to a (a bit) tight dash landing into an HDash, all accompanied by direction changes. I found that moving 00:16:406 (4) -, in line with the previous suggestion, also solved this issue. - Fixed a different way.
13. 00:17:109 (2,3) - I'd just put these a bit closer (like x:200 for (3)) just to add some leniency to the dash in case players overshoot the HDash a bit. - Made them a bit closer.
14. 00:20:156 (4,1,2) - Yet again, I think that the dash into HDash plays a bit harsh. Maybe you can move (4) to the right a bit, to make (1) into a walkable distance or, at least, a more lenient dash. - Made it more lenient.
15. 00:20:859 (2,3,4,5,6) - This pattern demands quite some dash control to it, so I'd reduce the distance of the normal dashes a bit to add some leniency. I'd also reduce 00:21:796 (4,5) - a bit, since players that overshoot the dash might not be able to walk it. - Hmm, I think this level of dash control should be fine to a platter player. I did reduce 4,5 slightly though.
16. 00:22:500 (1,2) - Again, this 1/1 distance is a bit ambiguous. I'd move 00:22:968 (2,3) - a couple gridspaces to the right. - Assuming you meant left, done.
17. 00:24:375 (1,2) - I'd reduce the distance between these a bit, by moving (2) to x:176 or x:168. - x:160 feels fine to me, I don't think it needs to be reduced anymore.
18. 00:26:250 (1,2) - I also found this distance to be rather ambiguous, so you know what to do. - This one seems fine to me, want to avoid antiflow after the HDash being too strong.
19. 00:28:593 (3,4) - I'd move this to x:24, to add some leniency to the dash before the HDash and also to avoid clashing into the wall, should players overshoot the dash. - Did x:16, I think x:24 is too lenient.
20. 00:30:000 (1,2) - Another distance that I consider ambiguous, so make it clearer by either reducing or increasing the distance. - Increased slightly.
21. 00:31:406 (4,1,2) - Having the double dash kinda contradicts your "pitch mapping" concept, so I'd go for a walkable distance for the first pair. - I think the trumpet is strong enough to imply a dash here.
22. 00:32:578 (3,4) - I'd add some leniency to this dash by moving (4) to x:248. - Didn't reduce that much but reduced slightly.
23. 00:33:750 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that can be considered ambiguous. - Again, think this one's fine to give the player a bit of reaction time leniency.
24. 00:35:156 (4,1,2) - And another recurring issue, I'd reduce the distance of the dash a bit to add some leniency. - Done.
25. 00:37:500 (1,2) - Another 1/1 distance that can be considered ambiguous. - Increased this one slightly.
26. 00:38:906 (4,1,2) - And the same thing as mentioned for 00:35:156 (4,1,2) - and several others. - Reduced slightly.
27. 00:41:250 (1,2) - More of this ambiguous 1/1 distance. - I think this one's fine to give reaction time.
28. 00:42:656 (4,1,2) - And more of the demanding dash into HDash thing. - Done.
29. 00:44:062 (3,4,5,6,1) - The same thing mentioned for 00:20:859 (2,3,4,5,6) - applies here. - I still think this kind of dash control is fine to expect on the "most intense" part of a platter.

Mfw most of these are recurring issues could have been mentioned in a single point but I noticed when it was too late to turn back ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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1. 00:06:562 (4) - move up a little so it doesn't feel as cramped?
2. 00:11:250 (1) - maybe a slider shape like this? http://hnng.moe/f/Sbq
3. 00:16:875 (3,4) - why are these angled like they are? to be honest there's nothing to emphasize there so i just wanna know the reasoning behind it
4. 00:20:625 (3) - maybe move it to x360 y236 and then angle it down 5 degrees so it plays and looks better?
5. 00:25:312 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606050
6. 00:36:562 (4) - why not blanket (3)? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606050
7. 00:37:500 (1) - mentioned at 00:25:312 (4), i think these slidershapes woulld look better

1. 00:06:093 (2) - for readibility, I think (2) should just be stacked on the slider (3)
2. 00:07:968 (1,2,3) - why not make this a square-ish shape like you did at 00:08:906 (1,2,3,4) ?
3. 00:13:593 (1) - why is this nc'ed
4. 00:15:000 (1) - move to the sliderend of (4)?
5. 00:18:281 (5,6,7) - i'm tilted that 00:18:750 (1,2,3) - is a different angle than this stream, so maybe try tilting the stream 23 degrees counterclockwise? ( i know, it's really specific but it looks better imo)
6. 00:19:453 (3) - x130 y135
7. 00:20:625 (1,2,3,4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606172 so it matches the amount of distance between the objects in 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4) -
8. 00:27:890 (5,1,2) - make into a triangle?
9. 00:43:828 (4,5,1,2,3) - I'm not sure what the idea behind placement was here, but this is crazy spacing for sounds that have equal intensity.

[ Space ] wrote:

modreqs, quick mod on ez and hard since i feel like the a e s t h e t i c s could be improved
normal is actually very solid, and I really couldn't find any real issues

[ez]

1. 00:06:562 (4) - move up a little so it doesn't feel as cramped? nu, anyway it doesnt look cramped imo
2. 00:11:250 (1) - maybe a slider shape like this? http://hnng.moe/f/Sbq ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE francesco plz fix
3. 00:16:875 (3,4) - why are these angled like they are? to be honest there's nothing to emphasize there so i just wanna know the reasoning behind it placing 00:17:812 (4) - upper will result of every DS in every object after it will broke, also it will just broke the aesthetic, and putting it down breaks the flow
4. 00:20:625 (3) - maybe move it to x360 y236 and then angle it down 5 degrees so it plays and looks better? this alreadsy plays good imo, also it already made a straight line with 00:22:500 (1) -
5. 00:25:312 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606050 00:05:625 (3,4) - pattern
6. 00:36:562 (4) - why not blanket (3)? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606050 its going too down the playfield (and doesn't look good)
7. 00:37:500 (1) - mentioned at 00:25:312 (4), i think these slidershapes woulld look better looks fine

[hd]

1. 00:06:093 (2) - for readibility, I think (2) should just be stacked on the slider (3) breaks spacing so no, also its still readable easily
2. 00:07:968 (1,2,3) - why not make this a square-ish shape like you did at 00:08:906 (1,2,3,4) ? no main reason, but trying to keep spacing, and its only 3 notes, so that should fine.
3. 00:13:593 (1) - why is this nc'ed oops
4. 00:15:000 (1) - move to the sliderend of (4)? 00:12:890 (4,1,3,1) -
5. 00:18:281 (5,6,7) - i'm tilted that 00:18:750 (1,2,3) - is a different angle than this stream, so maybe try tilting the stream 23 degrees counterclockwise? ( i know, it's really specific but it looks better imo) breaks spacing, and I dun wanna break other parts.
6. 00:19:453 (3) - x130 y135 unnecesary also I dun want it
7. 00:20:625 (1,2,3,4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8606172 so it matches the amount of distance between the objects in 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4) - pitch mapping
8. 00:27:890 (5,1,2) - make into a triangle? breaks spacing
9. 00:43:828 (4,5,1,2,3) - I'm not sure what the idea behind placement was here, but this is crazy spacing for sounds that have equal intensity. pitch mapping

[A L P H A] wrote:

why is there a watch doggus logo on the bg

Error- wrote:

Edit 2: BNs PLZ NOTICE ME ;w;

ErunamoJAZZ wrote:

Error- wrote:

Edit 2: BNs PLZ NOTICE ME ;w;

lol, but it is not perfect in some stuffs... like blankets.
[Hard]
By example in 00:11:250 (1) - or 00:27:187 (4) - or 00:34:687 (4) -
Or how the shape in 00:21:562 (1,2,3,4) - feels a bit random, imho pitch mapping :3, its stronger than 00:20:859 (2,3,4) - and well,
the main reason behind the shape is im not going to overlap things like 00:20:156 (5,1) - also see 00:20:625 (1,1,2) -
Spacing between 00:27:890 (5,2) - is more close that others... since 00:28:125 (1) - is a NC, this makes player knows that they should press 00:28:125 (1) - instead of 00:28:359 (2) - so no more confusion about spacing, and missread chances.

Normal feels good, but Easy have some little (veeery little) spacing issues. You could disable grid snap to fix those. too nazi I'll probaly recheck for a serious spacing issues.

Not kudo.
Good luck!

josh1024 wrote:

From your queue lol:

Easy

Nothing in particular but no reverse sliders really?

Normal
Since it looks very neat not sure if you want random slider shapes.

00:00:937 (3) - for example for a clean sound like this use something like a straight line.
00:01:875 (1) - use a cornered slider on this.
00:02:578 (2) - keep the generic curve on this.
00:06:328 (2) - and draw something interesting to stress this.

Hard

00:02:578 (3) 00:06:328 (3) - different sound, same shape.
00:25:078 (4) 00:28:828 (4) - ^

Absolute Zero wrote:

[MBomb's Platter]
00:06:328 (4) - At 00:06:445, there's a pretty substantial note. You're following 00:18:281 (4), which is a weaker note on a 1/4 beat. Make this a repeat 1/8 slider on 00:06:328 and a 1/2 slider on 00:06:562. - I can't hear a note on the 1/4 or 1/8?
00:21:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - I think it's a bit weird that 00:21:796 (4,5) is smaller than 00:22:031 (5,6), even though they're the same musical interval. This makes kind of a confusing pattern for a platter player, even if it is an easy back-forth-back-forth. I would standardize the spacing to that of 00:22:031 (5,6). - The stronger pitch on 4 and 6 is why they have higher distancing than 5 which is a significantly less strong pitch.
00:28:828 (4) - Same comment as 00:06:328 (4). - Same as then.
00:28:828 (4,5) - Antiflow here is a little challenging, since the musical phrase seems like it's going to end, and a player is probably going to walk that, because it also looks walkable (but most of the time it won't be exactly walkable for a platter player). - Increased it a bit to make it more obvious as a dash.
00:35:156 (4,1,2) - Think you could lower the distance more, since dashing to the hyper is quite harsh. - Done.
00:44:062 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same comment as 00:21:562 (3,4,5,6,1). - Same as then.
00:46:875 (1) - Maybe place at x=72 for symmetry. - Symmetry with what though.

Hitsounding
00:02:578 (3) - Add a whistle here. - Sure.
00:18:515 - Add a whistle here. - Alright.
00:25:078 (3) - Add a whistle here. - Done.
00:35:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - This combo whistle pattern is inconsistent with 00:13:125 (1,2,3,4), even though they're the same music. - Fixed.

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1. Your custom soft hitwhistle fits the song; however, it sounds very low, so low I had to reduce the music volume to actually notice it was there.
2. You have an obvious spread issue here. There's a big gap between Easy and Normal. Easy is mostly 1/1 and larger sliders, while Normal has a lot of 1/2 usage and doesn't leave much time for players of the Normal level to rest. Normal is not a normal level diff, it's actually an advanced diff, so what you should do is rename "Normal" to "Advanced" and make a diff that fills the gap between your Easy and your Advanced difficulties.

1. 00:02:812 (4,1) - This blanket can be improved.

1. 00:41:250 (1,2,3) - The flow you create here feels a bit awkward compared to the rest of the diff, idk how to explain it, but I suggest to change the pattern to something else that you commonly used in the diff.

1. 00:02:578 (3) - Move the last point to the left until it reaches its limit before breaking the slider, then move both of the middle points that make the curvature by two grids to the right each one so the curvature is right in the middle. This is the result, a neat symmetrical slider.
2. 00:05:390 (4,1) - 00:10:781 (7,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - 00:31:875 (1,4) - 00:34:687 (4,5) - Blankets that can be improved.

1. Nice overall, but I would suggest to... wait... idk anything about ctb :v

ezek wrote:

Hello Error-kun 👀
I hope you know throwing a lot of kudos to your map doesn't help at all and you should save it for other people sets that you may love or to reach 12sp on other sets of yours 👀 yes I was dumb :'3

[General]

1. Your custom soft hitwhistle fits the song; however, it sounds very low, so low I had to reduce the music volume to actually notice it was there. should be fixed now.
2. You have an obvious spread issue here. There's a big gap between Easy and Normal. Easy is mostly 1/1 and larger sliders, while Normal has a lot of 1/2 usage and doesn't leave much time for players of the Normal level to rest. Normal is not a normal level diff, it's actually an advanced diff, so what you should do is rename "Normal" to "Advanced" and make a diff that fills the gap between your Easy and your Advanced difficulties. I hope its fine now :3

[Easy]

1. 00:02:812 (4,1) - This blanket can be improved.

I'm not very satisfied with this diff. The sv feels way too low, I would suggest using at least 0.80, and you should also use a higher spacing bc the one you have right now feels too low for the speed of the song. Then, you don't have any repeat sliders, which are a basic element used in low difficulties, so I gotta say your Easy is a bit boring; you really should find some good spots to add some repeats (and be sure to be consistent with their usage). Changing sv and spacing may require a lot of movements, so I understand you may not be willing to do such huge change; maybe a remap with the new settings and ideas on where to put some repeats is a better idea and could give better results. ok remap SV0.8

["Normal"]
renamed to Advanced :v

1. 00:41:250 (1,2,3) - The flow you create here feels a bit awkward compared to the rest of the diff, idk how to explain it, but I suggest to change the pattern to something else that you commonly used in the diff. ok fixed

[Hard]

1. 00:02:578 (3) - Move the last point to the left until it reaches its limit before breaking the slider, then move both of the middle points that make the curvature by two grids to the right each one so the curvature is right in the middle. This is the result, a neat symmetrical slider. nice tutorial, applied :3
2. 00:05:390 (4,1) - 00:10:781 (7,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - 00:31:875 (1,4) - 00:34:687 (4,5) - Blankets that can be improved. I tried my best ;w; applied

[MBomb's Platter]

1. Nice overall, but I would suggest to... wait... idk anything about ctb :v

I may take another look at it if I see you keep working on it, and hopefully nominate it. My main concerns are the spread and the Easy diff. For now, good luck!

Kyousukee wrote:

Hard
Ctrl+g this 00:05:625 (1) - would be nice imo ok
also make this 00:07:031 (4) - sliderend stacked on this circle 00:05:390 (4) - is good nah, I dun want it, broke the blanket
make this 00:43:593 (3) - stacked on sliderend 00:42:656 (4) - is nice broke 00:42:187 (3,4) -

Normal
00:17:812 (3) - U can make this slider become 1/1 gap of circle since it have a big loud sound at sliderend 00:17:812 (3) - than this 00:19:687 (3) - . following previous and next pattern.
unsuitable rhythm i think 00:28:828 (2) - , got clap sound on body of it , here too 00:06:328 (2) - its fine.

advance & easy is fine i think xD
glgl

1. 00:39:140 (4) - blanket is off, move it down a bit

1. 00:06:328 (3) - maybe use a half beat slider here and a circle on 00:06:796 - seems to fit a bit better because of the somewhat louder sound on the slider end(same with later ones)
2. 00:19:687 (4) - reduce the gab here, its on a 1/16th tick

Senery wrote:

NM from my queue

[Advanced]

1. 00:39:140 (4) - blanket is off, move it down a bit ok

[Hard]

1. 00:06:328 (3) - maybe use a half beat slider here and a circle on 00:06:796 - seems to fit a bit better because of the somewhat louder sound on the slider end(same with later ones) following stronger sound
2. 00:19:687 (4) - reduce the gab here, its on a 1/16th tick still readable as 1/16 tho

sorry for the short mod, everything looks fine

MrSergio wrote:

Easy has a kinda high DS compared to the SV. Consider reducing DS overall (x1.50 is big no matter what SV you use anyway)

Rest looks fine..

JBHyperion wrote:

Random peek at catch diff because I'm bored I guess

MBomb's Platter

1. Not sure if this diff is intended to have default hitsounds but the standard ones have customs so I guess maybe you want this diff to have them too - Sure, why not.
2. 00:15:000 (1,2) - Kinda of a pain to walk this after the previous hyper + direction change, but nor really big enough to indicate a dash. I feel a slightly larger spacing would be helpful here, since I assume you wanted to emphasise the pitch difference with the antiflow already anyway. If not, maybe make it similar to 00:11:250 (1,2) - in size - Sure, increased slightly.
3. 00:03:750 (1,2) - 00:07:500 (1,2) - In the same vein, I'd maybe reduce these a tiny bit further still so the player can become accustomed to the spacing early on in the map, and there's a feeling of progression later on as the distances become slightly bigger. Might help alleviate some of the monotony slightly - Sure, done.
4. 00:37:500 (1,2) - if you increased 00:15:000 (1,2) - maybe do the same thing here since the pattern repeats with (1) - being high pitch. Also get (1) away from the left border to avoid a potential flowstop thanks. 00:36:562 (3,4) - could maybe be separated a bit more to make room - Alright, done.

Good luck! (:

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Artist:toby fox
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Creator:Error-
Version:MBomb's Platter
Source:UNDERTALE
Tags:OST megalovania sans the skeleton frisk character magic bomb mbomb
BeatmapID:1287353
BeatmapSetID:584575

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:7.4
ApproachRate:7.4
SliderMultiplier:2
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"bg.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[TimingPoints]
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Combo2 : 255,255,255

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