20:09 Bakari: do you have an hour or so to go through your diffs?
20:10 Natsu: yeah
20:10 Bakari: awesome!
20:10 Bakari: let me redl the set and quickly scan for general stuff
20:10 Natsu: yeah because new video and some awesome hitsounds
20:10 Natsu: !
20:13 Bakari: everything is okay wit hthe hitsounds
20:14 Bakari: btw, do you want to keep the current bg? last time we were checking it, you wanted to try something different, if i'm not mistaken
20:14 Natsu: I tried to find alternatives, but i failed to get a better one LOL
20:14 Natsu: but I changed the combo colors, there is no more bright white
20:15 Bakari: video and metadata are also fine
20:17 Bakari: well, as long as you're happy with the existing BG, I'm fine with it
20:17 Natsu: yeah, tbh I didn't find a better one
20:17 Natsu: the reason I wanted to change it, was because other map is using it
20:17 Bakari: meh, not our problem
20:18 Natsu: hahahahaa
20:18 Bakari: okay, general stuff is good to go!
20:19 Bakari: kinda irrelevant, but I'll ask anyway
20:19 Bakari: have you seen TWICE's Signal?
20:20 Natsu: Euny is searching for new BG for me, so maybe I'll change it
20:20 Natsu: I don't like it
20:20 Natsu: but because it's like mainstream k pop and i like different things hahha
20:20 Natsu: but it's a fine song
20:20 Bakari: practically none of my friends do
20:21 Natsu: it's that kind of song that you need to listen much for end loving it
20:21 Natsu: but at first isn't much nice
20:21 Bakari: yeah, exactly!
20:22 Bakari: 00:45:252 (2,3) - oh, they are not exactly parallel
20:22 Natsu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL7kIdoPep4
20:23 Natsu: what diff
20:23 Bakari: Sunrise
20:24 Natsu: done
20:25 Bakari: not a single girl with short hair, clearly they're not becoming my fav group
20:25 Bakari: 00:35:150 (2,3) - what if we ctrl+G these two
20:25 Bakari: and remove the circle
20:26 Bakari: basically, we'd be following the instruments and using more 2/1s to make this part less tense in comparison with kiais
20:26 Natsu: but the 2 vocals 00:35:456 (3) - qq
20:27 Bakari: well, depends on what we intend to do with the rhythm
20:27 Bakari: we either keep it more consistent
20:28 Bakari: or we try to vary it a little and make each part slightly different to give a better feel of the song
20:28 Bakari: subjectuvely better*
20:28 Natsu: also the normal is super dense ;o
20:29 Bakari: that we can change as well :p
20:29 Bakari: 01:39:130 (2,3) - i'm sure a player wouldn't notice this little imprefection
20:30 Natsu: btw 01:39:130 (2) - I'll make this a 2/1 slider
20:31 Natsu: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125591
20:32 Bakari: I'd rather try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125598
20:33 Natsu: 01:40:048 (3) - that kills the Oh oh together, tbh
20:33 Natsu: maybe 01:39:130 (2) - 2/1
20:33 Natsu: and two circles 01:40:048 (3) - ¿
20:33 Natsu: ?*
20:34 Bakari: 02:08:517 (3) - I would rather stick to the guitar here, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125615 it's kinda tricky, but it'd work as a bridge between the two parts. this would apply to Normal as well
20:35 Bakari: the 2/1 slider sorta kills the vocals on 01:39:588 -
20:35 Bakari: so, following the "oh oh" and ignoring the previous tihng is kind of illogical, i think
20:36 Natsu: maybe I just keep it like it's xD
20:36 Bakari: you can also try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125641
20:36 Bakari: but it feels artificial imo
20:37 Natsu: yeah, mmm the current way is less dense and fit the vocals better
20:37 Natsu: tbh thhis song is kinda hard to map for an easy LOL
20:38 Bakari: 02:26:884 (1) - i feel really confused about this slider
20:39 Bakari: shouldn't it end on 02:27:956 - ?
20:39 Bakari: or at least have a curve of some kind
20:40 Natsu: mm in a perfect rhythm it should end at the blue tick to keep all the voice and a click in the downbeat, but in the easy I really need to finish it there
20:40 Natsu: about the shape is not that nice LOL
20:40 Natsu: BUT GRID ennd QQ
20:41 Bakari: it ends on the red tick in the Daytime difficulty, though
20:41 Natsu: MAYBE https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125690 ?
20:41 Natsu: because I can use 1/2 transitions there
20:42 Natsu: but in easy would be super overkill to have a circle in the white tick
20:42 Bakari: we could just ignore the other part that starts on the white tick after
20:43 Bakari: and then have both of these vocal notes mapped in Morning
20:43 Natsu: my game crashed, sorry
20:43 Bakari: do you still have the changes we've made so far?
20:44 Natsu: yeah
20:44 Natsu: I ctrl s every change
20:45 Natsu: i made the slider shape like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8125730
20:45 Bakari: then I'd really want you to change the daytime diff as well
20:46 Bakari: essentially, we have 3 different ways to map the same vocals
20:47 Natsu: day time is hard tho :l, there isn't mch problem to have 1/2s, but in easy I can't, because I didn't used a single 1/2 transition
20:47 Natsu: in normal i can change it to 1/2 and circle
20:47 Bakari: yeah, let's change it in Normal then
20:47 Bakari: so, it'll be like some kind of rhythm progression
20:48 Natsu: yeah
20:49 Bakari: i swear, these easy/normal diffs are the hardest to map/mod
20:49 Bakari: but yeah, I'm happy with the rhythm we've got
20:49 Natsu: tbh u can't make good rhythms at easy, when vocalist and instruments aren't at the same beats
20:50 Bakari: It's still easier than making a Hard for me gustas tu
20:50 Natsu: i'll map that song, tbh I didn't because someone was about to rank it
20:51 Natsu: but seems that he gave up
20:51 Bakari: somebody actually thought that mixing 1/4s and 1/3s was a good idea @.@
20:51 Natsu: and adding spanish with korean lol
20:52 Bakari: "so ye, we mixing different snappings, why not mix Spanish as well"
20:52 Bakari: anyways
20:52 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1286105 Dreamcatcher - GOOD NIGHT [Morning]]
20:52 Natsu: tbh they notice that k-pop is becoming super popular in america
20:53 Natsu: maybe that's why
20:53 Bakari: 00:20:762 (4,5) - let's place 4-5 higher, so there is some kind of diagonal. it looks like you wanted to do it with 2-3 and then just gave up with 4 https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/tln5xDJx.jpg
20:53 Bakari: oh, perhaps, yeah, I've seen EXID coming to Canada, so it's quite clear that k-pop is growing bigger
20:54 Natsu: done
20:54 Natsu: yeah in my country there was some kind of k pop even too lol
20:55 Natsu: I was wonder, because it was bigger than japanese anime ones
20:55 Bakari: because anime sucks :^)
20:55 Natsu: i like old anime tho
20:55 Natsu: like samurai x, dbz, evangelion etc
20:55 Bakari: yeah, detective conan <3
20:56 Bakari: 00:51:986 (2,3,4) - similar diagonal concept here, btw
20:57 Natsu: done
20:57 Natsu: keep with it, gonna get water fast
20:57 Bakari: 00:48:925 (1,3) - I've already asked this, I think. but anyway, are you sure you don't want to blanket (1)? https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/lo6tDTki.jpg
21:00 Natsu: oh the zigzag flow plays better than a linear one
21:01 Natsu: i mean noobs follow all the slider body, so it's better to change the flow of sliders imo
21:02 Bakari: alrighty then
21:05 Bakari: 01:40:659 (1,2,3) - the rhythm is kind of incosistent with Sunrise, is it intentional
21:06 Natsu: just because I can make 1/2 transitions here
21:06 Natsu: so i can keep 1/1s
21:07 Natsu: same with 01:42:038 (3,1) -
21:08 Bakari: 02:09:742 - how about a ciecle here? you could finish the slider 1/2 earlier
21:10 Natsu: mmmm i had like that before, but some how I feels that the slider cover all the guitar sounds, the 1/4s there too
21:10 Bakari: alright then
21:10 Natsu: https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=24456725
21:10 Natsu: what do u think about that bg?
21:11 Bakari: let's check the Daytime diff, then I'll recheck the three difficulties we've changed
21:11 Bakari: and move on to the next ones
21:11 Bakari: so, it's easier to recheck
21:11 Bakari: eww, anime
21:11 Natsu: haha
21:11 Bakari: I like the nightmarish feel of the current BG
21:12 Bakari: random anime girl doesn't have that feel
21:14 Natsu: yeah
21:14 Bakari: so, daytime
21:18 Bakari: 00:23:517 (1) - kinda random, but what do you thing about Ctrl+G'ing this one
21:18 Bakari: (1) feels like some kind of a rewind sound
21:18 Bakari: and a reversed slider would stress that
21:20 Natsu: oh i wanted the player to stop the cursor movent at 00:23:517 (1) - and just release it with the tiny guitar sound at 00:23:517 (1) -
21:20 Natsu: the do a counter flow at 00:23:976 (2) -
21:21 Bakari: as long as it works for you, that's cool
21:23 Bakari: 01:13:262 (5,1) - shouldn't there be a jump for the instruments going really loud
21:23 Bakari: this would stress the end of kiai
21:23 Bakari: this would apply to all similar parts tho
21:25 Natsu: yeah, tbh I'm using the jumps at the really fast parts, if I add a jump there, then I'd need to add to all this parts 00:36:680 (1) -
21:26 Bakari: 01:14:639 (1,1) - are you sure about this one then?
21:29 Natsu: mmm yeah
21:29 Natsu: i'll make one at 02:50:150 (1,1) -
21:29 Natsu: for consistency if you want
21:29 Bakari: yeah, that'd make more sense
21:30 Natsu: kk done
21:30 Bakari: alright, update, I'll recheck
21:30 Bakari: we'll take a break for 5 or 10 minutes
21:31 Bakari: and do the other 3 diffs
21:31 Natsu: kk
21:31 Natsu: gonna keep searching bg
21:35 Bakari: updated? :v
21:36 Natsu: uploading
21:36 Natsu: what about https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=35913716
21:36 Natsu: btw
21:37 Bakari: idk, I'm generally kinda negative about those animu grills
21:37 Natsu: updated done

22:00 Bakari: okay, here we are
22:02 Natsu: kk
22:04 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1283463 Dreamcatcher - GOOD NIGHT [Afternoon]]
22:06 Natsu: owo
22:07 Bakari: 00:18:466 - I feel like this should've been clickable
22:09 Bakari: I feel like throwing 1/2s intensely is a bit of an overkill after relaxed 1/1 slider
22:09 Bakari: let's keep it easy? https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/TzMA6oNk.jpg
22:10 Natsu: nop the guitat starts at 00:18:313 (1) -
22:10 Natsu: drums are filler rhythm that's why they aren't click'abble
22:12 Natsu: also that 2 starts on a low guitar sound
22:12 Bakari: ohhh, that explains a lot
22:17 Bakari: 01:43:721 (4,1) - 00:49:844 (4,1) - nazi department called, they want equal spacing
22:19 Natsu: fixed
22:22 Bakari: nazi department called back
22:22 Bakari: they are satisfied with the difficulty
22:22 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1282279 Dreamcatcher - GOOD NIGHT [Evening]]
22:23 Natsu: they=
22:23 Natsu: ?
22:24 Bakari: yeah, I have a team of qualified nazi modders here
22:26 Natsu: what
22:26 Natsu: who xDDD
22:27 Bakari: a bunch of no name mappers, I keep them in the basement here
22:27 Bakari: anyway
22:28 Bakari: 00:12:497 (3,4) - isn't that a bit too much for the intro of the song?
22:29 Natsu: YEAH
22:29 Bakari: HELL YEAH
22:29 Bakari: I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS SO EXCITING
22:29 Bakari: BUT I LOVE SPACING CHANGES
22:29 Natsu: lol
22:30 Natsu: i reduce 1234
22:30 Bakari: sometimes modding gets emotional
22:31 Natsu: yeah xDDD
22:39 Bakari: I like the evening diff a lot
22:40 Bakari: to be fair, I like the idea of the difficulty progression and the way you implement the same ideas
22:40 Bakari: but the diff itself is also cool
22:40 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1275831 Dreamcatcher - GOOD NIGHT [Midnight]]
22:40 Natsu: yeah I always do that in my sets, so people who advanced in each diff notice the stuff is similar but harder
22:41 Natsu: just like guitar hero ahaha
22:44 Bakari: btw, can you help me a bit?
22:44 Bakari: I'm doing a BN survey #3
22:44 Bakari: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... 121331=Yes
22:44 Natsu: sure
22:45 Natsu: what
22:46 Bakari: important information
22:46 Natsu: lol
22:47 Bakari: 00:46:170 (1,2) - 00:47:548 (1,2) -
22:47 Bakari: might be just me, but I would lower the spacing on the second pattern
22:47 Bakari: so that the first one would stand out more
22:49 Natsu: they are sliders so should be fine, tbh the blankets 00:47:548 (1,1) - 00:47:854 (2,2) - QQ
22:55 Bakari: 02:14:027 (1,1) - do we rally need these two new combos?
22:55 Bakari: the same time interval, same spacing
22:56 Bakari: it should be quite easy, and HP Drain is low
22:56 Natsu: let me test with HR
22:56 Natsu: tbh I added because HR xD
22:57 Bakari: there's no way this can be HRable
22:58 Bakari: okay
22:58 Bakari: that's about it
22:58 Natsu: Yeah hp get really down with hr
22:58 Natsu: btw a person already fc it with hd hr
22:58 Natsu: LOL
22:58 Bakari: D:
22:59 Bakari: anyways
22:59 Bakari: what about the BG? do we keep this one?
22:59 Natsu: I changed it, euny really love that girl and she uses some korean dress and it's on the forest
23:00 Natsu: so I'll follow her with it ahha
23:00 Bakari: okay then
23:00 Bakari: hit me up when I can recheck
23:00 Natsu: did u check toybot
23:00 Natsu: stuff aat kiais?
23:01 Bakari: not yet
23:01 Bakari: I'll post it with the whole log
23:01 Bakari: just like I did the last tme

23:34 CXu: the struggle xd
23:34 Natsu: xD
00:09 CXu: more pp best pp
00:12 Natsu: haha tbh i really hope that chase me situation, don't happen with this too
00:12 *Natsu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1275831 Dreamcatcher - GOOD NIGHT [Midnight]]
00:13 CXu: 7/10 too much straight line 00:09:742 (1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - pls fix
00:13 CXu: xddd
00:14 CXu: btw 00:24:435 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these go like right->left jumps in pairs of 2, maybe do the same for 00:26:884 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and 00:29:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ? since now they're more standard circular pattern
00:15 CXu: 00:53:823 (1,2,3) - nice sliderart
00:16 Natsu: yeah maybe the first pattern is more comfortable than the squares
00:16 CXu: squares? xD
00:17 CXu: I just think the more flat arrangement fit better with the sound than the circular flow kind of thing xd
00:17 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8221918
00:17 Natsu: they are squares BD lvl x2
00:17 CXu: oh
00:17 CXu: didnt even notice LOL
00:18 Natsu: xDDD
00:18 CXu: since the order you play them in it just feels like triangles xD
00:19 Natsu: Yeah
00:19 CXu: 02:29:333 - this section needs soft-hitnormal like idk 19-25 or something
00:19 CXu: xD
00:20 Natsu: oh there are kseysounds xD, but they are too similar to the music, I'll make them louder
00:21 CXu: no
00:21 CXu: I mean I hear the keysounds
00:21 CXu: but because I have custom hitsounds in my skin, I get pingpong sounds in the background LOL
00:21 Natsu: oh lol
00:22 Natsu: ah yeah
00:22 Natsu: I forgot to add the soft-hinormal to thee piano sets
00:22 CXu: looks like a fun map though love the writing sliderart and that thing in the middle of kiai. and dreamcatcher is amazing
00:22 CXu: yupp
00:23 CXu: ok gonna go make some food I'm dying xD
00:23 CXu: gl with map ~~
00:23 Natsu: post for free kudo if u want
00:23 Natsu: kk
00:36 CXu: sure why not xD