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EPICA - Victims of Contingency

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Saileach
525 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
Saileach
Metadata Source: https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/the-q ... d853289806 for BN's

EDIT: Used the EPICA instead of Epica since it seems very inconsistent but the official website has it listed in full caps while stuff like itunes and wikipedia is different
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celerih
617 posts
Joined July 2014
celerih
[Mortality]

is the name because this map kills my hope in you making something good? (just kidding babe luv u)

  1. What's with the tick rate 2? I don't feel like it does anything

  2. 00:16:626 (1,1) - Line up the end of the slider with the stream better, it looks wonky and unpolished as is

  3. 00:21:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'll just mention it on one stream but I don't think having the one note sticking out look svery nice, it's kinda like how small nubs on sliders are really ugly

  4. 00:27:483 (1,2,3,4) - This map is almost 7*, you can space the buzzsliders more, plus it gives them the emphasis they lack since they are a one time clickable object (basically what I mean is since the sliders aren't as strong as streams, space them more to give them more emphasis, because right now that part feels weak comapred to the rest of the streams)

  5. 00:29:126 (8,1) - Here the direction change is made on the 8 but the strong sound is made on the 1. The change in direction should be reflected by being on a strong beat. Just like what you did here 00:29:698 (8,1) -

  6. 00:33:769 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - This whole part here is all over the place . 00:34:055 (6,7,1,2) - This part plays terribly, 00:34:341 (1,2,3,4) - this part looks bad

  7. 00:36:626 (1,2,3,4) - Once again these could be spaced more to have a better effet, because as is you don't really feel the hit of the drums

  8. 00:42:912 (5) - Unsnapped slider yum yum

  9. 00:44:055 (4,1) - no

  10. 00:43:876 (2,3,4) - Also what's up with this

  11. 00:48:055 (1,2,3,4) - Make these symmetrical, they are close enough to being symmetrical that you should make them so, but also off enough that you notice it a lot when playing. I call this the FoxyPuzzle Zone in reference to how it took me 4 mods to get Foxy to do symmetry correctly
  12. 00:50:341 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I'd make the 3 notes on these spaced more, and also make them not as cluttered, like the three notes are too close

  13. 00:53:483 (2,3,4,1) - Move away the lone circle there, the overlap really doesn't work

  14. 00:54:912 (1,2,3,4) - When making patterns with symmetry, use symmetrical sliders

  15. 00:57:198 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nothing to say here, I like this part except maybe have 00:58:912 (1) - be a mirror of 00:58:341 (1) -

  16. 01:04:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is the most intense part of the stream, reflect that by having a higher distance snap

  17. 01:06:912 (3,4) - Symmetrical patterns, symmetrical sliders pls it hurts to see

  18. 01:09:698 (8,1) - This looks pretty bad. Maybe rotate this 01:09:198 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - counter-clock wise so you're not stuck in the bottom and the same applies to here 01:18:841 (8,1) -
  19. 01:14:269 (4,1) - Here it's stuck again, but also I think it'd be best if it went to the left after the stream, for aesthetic and flow

  20. 01:20:626 (3,4) - Symmetrical patterns, _____________ (At this point I think you can fill the blank)

  21. 01:21:769 (3,4) - ^

  22. 01:24:626 - The sound here should be a clickable object and not a spinner head

  23. Why is the emphasis on this 01:26:483 (4) - note bigger then here 01:26:912 (1) -

  24. 01:38:483 (3,3,4) - The crossing here could be cleaner

  25. 01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Once again most intense part, should have higher DS

  26. 01:49:198 (3,4) - _________ patterns, __________ sliders (I WONDER WHAT WORD GOES IN THERE' JEEZ I DON'T KNOW)

  27. 01:52:055 (1) - Not a huge fan of this slider shape

  28. 01:52:912 (5,1) - Here I'd take the 5 slider pointing at the other one over them overlapping (or maybe you can make the two happen at the same time)

  29. 02:05:126 (8,1) - Not really sure why there's a cutoff here as this part sounds the same all the way

  30. 02:05:769 - Also here clickable object, not a slider head and also 02:05:769 (1) - end the spinner at the same place you ended last time for consistency

  31. 02:16:055 (1,4) - symmetrical ________. symmetrical ________wait nvM yOU GOT IT THIS TIME HOLY SHIT HE DID IT BOYZ

  32. 02:22:483 (1,2) - WILL HE GET IT AGAIN, NOOOOOOOO!!!
    02:25:198 (1,2) -
    02:29:769 (1,2) -
    02:31:483 (1,2) -
    02:46:341 (3,4) -
    02:47:483 (3,4) -
    and another one before I go 02:55:483 (3,4) -
  33. Not sure that the breaks here 02:33:983 - and here 02:38:341 - are really needed as they are really short

  34. 02:42:341 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream here looks wonky as hell

  35. 02:52:626 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Shape of the stream here is pretty wonky too, I'd have this 02:53:483 (1,2,3,4) - look like this but cleaner

    This is all I have the time for, sorry if I was a bit mean, you were warned
    But hopefully this mod helps you

Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
1,950 posts
Joined April 2014
Xinnoh
more discord. Please doubt the things I say about flow because I'm not high rank, but I'm usually right with things about aesthetics. I'll have to mention the annoying blankets because someone else will if I do

Mortality
  • Opening spinner maybe? Would be quite appropriate
  1. 00:10:483 (3,4,5) - The spacing around the 4 is odd because none of them have identical spacing. 00:10:626 (4,8) - is slightly farther than 00:10:483 (3,4) - too.

  2. 00:11:769 (5) - Make this two straight lines, since 5 is currently not in line with the second stream, yet 00:15:198 (5) - is.

  3. 00:14:483 (9,10,11) - This might be too close because the jump of 00:14:055 (5,6) - is initially flow jump, but the streams are counter flow. These combined needs a fast mouse movement. But 00:14:340 (8,9) - is with counter flow jump, and with flow stream, those combined need less movement. So move that triple just a bit further, or 00:14:198 (6,7,8) - down.

  4. 00:16:626 (1) - 00:23:483 (1) - Mute slider end

  5. 00:33:198 (1) - This isn't part of the triangle/hexagon pattern, move it slightly closer

  6. 00:33:769 (5) - If you move the slider head further you get a triangle + fix blanket

  7. 00:42:341 (1) - Does this spacing work?

  8. 00:53:483 (2,3) - I know this spacing is too close though

  9. 00:54:055 (2,3,4) - Slider end is not spaced evenly between the circles, ctrl-g it and use ar to fix.

  10. 01:04:055 (1) - Use higher distance here, try something like this
    image
  11. 01:06:341 (1,4) - blanket isn't perfect

  12. 01:09:769 (1) - I think it would have better circular flow with something like this, but it's obviously difficult to make it look aesthetically correct
    image
  13. 01:11:769 (5) - Fix blanket, head too close

  14. 01:14:626 (2) - Just move the slider point at y82 to y72, gives a better circle shape to the slider

  15. 01:16:055 (3) - Copy paste the slider from 01:15:198 (4) - . They have the same flow + currently the "blanket isn't right because the tail is closer to (4)'s head.

  16. 01:18:841 (8,1) - Same pattern as before but this slider is farther away

  17. 01:20:626 (3,4) - Would look better if copy pasted

  18. 01:23:483 (1) - Seems a bit close for a 1/1 gap

  19. 01:28:055 (1) - Move first red slider point over so that both horizontal parts are same distance

  20. 01:32:483 (6,1) - That's a big ass 1/4 jump, at the very minimum move it down so the slider blankets 01:32:198 (3) -

  21. 01:36:912 (2,1) - Stack distance is too far

  22. 01:45:769 (5) - For these patterns, I don't think the direction change shouldn't happen until 1 circle later for both. See my rain diff streams to see what I mean. The cursor is change direction before the violin changes.

  23. 01:53:198 (1) - Change this to reverse slider or add another circle 1/2 after. Should do reverse since that's what you do normally.

  24. 01:55:483 (1) - Slider isn't perfectly aligned with stream

  25. 01:57:769 (1) - Imperfect blanket, tail too far

  26. 02:18:198 (4,2) - Fix stack distances

  27. 02:26:055 (1,2,3,4) - Current positions imply they're all 1/2 jumps, angle more so it's clear they're 1/1 gaps. Others are fine because pattern is now established

  28. 02:37:769 (2) - why is it here, could stack
    silly answer that I would do would be to stack to slider head, and put 02:40:055 (1) - on the tail. (btw i've ranked nothing so take with grain of salt)

  29. 02:44:626 (1) - Move right to fix circle flow

  30. 02:49:198 (1) - Curve slider so that it can still be in correct position for stream end and inside the circle. But this creates flow issue xP

  31. 02:50:055 (4) - Fix blanket, tail too close

  32. 03:11:769 (1) - Keep the spacing equal to the last stream, doesn't feel right to go this low

  33. 03:16:341 (5) - Move this down, final stream doesn't curve right

  34. 03:18:912 (1) - Jump flow should put it around x145 y 220,

  35. 03:26:626 (3) - Circular would be better on the right side

Here's the rest of my rain because I mentioned it in the mod.
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Wow bbcode is cool and dumb
Saileach
525 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
Saileach

celerih wrote:

[Mortality]

is the name because this map kills my hope in you making something good? (just kidding babe luv u)

  1. What's with the tick rate 2? I don't feel like it does anything Because on some of the extended sliders which are mapped to vocals, it goes over a beat, can change

  2. 00:16:626 (1,1) - Line up the end of the slider with the stream better, it looks wonky and unpolished as is Fixed

  3. 00:21:769 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'll just mention it on one stream but I don't think having the one note sticking out look svery nice, it's kinda like how small nubs on sliders are really ugly Fixed :(

  4. 00:27:483 (1,2,3,4) - This map is almost 7*, you can space the buzzsliders more, plus it gives them the emphasis they lack since they are a one time clickable object (basically what I mean is since the sliders aren't as strong as streams, space them more to give them more emphasis, because right now that part feels weak comapred to the rest of the streams) Fixed

  5. 00:29:126 (8,1) - Here the direction change is made on the 8 but the strong sound is made on the 1. The change in direction should be reflected by being on a strong beat. Just like what you did here 00:29:698 (8,1) -

  6. 00:33:769 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - This whole part here is all over the place . 00:34:055 (6,7,1,2) - This part plays terribly, 00:34:341 (1,2,3,4) - this part looks bad Think i fixed

  7. 00:36:626 (1,2,3,4) - Once again these could be spaced more to have a better effet, because as is you don't really feel the hit of the drums k

  8. 00:42:912 (5) - Unsnapped slider yum yum Fuck AI mod for not picking this up

  9. 00:44:055 (4,1) - no yes

  10. 00:43:876 (2,3,4) - Also what's up with this There is a 1/3 drum/guitar thingy sound, For some reason the editor likes to resnap this to weird shit

  11. 00:48:055 (1,2,3,4) - Make these symmetrical, they are close enough to being symmetrical that you should make them so, but also off enough that you notice it a lot when playing. I call this the FoxyPuzzle Zone in reference to how it took me 4 mods to get Foxy to do symmetry correctly They all on a 10 or 20 degree angle difference
  12. 00:50:341 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I'd make the 3 notes on these spaced more, and also make them not as cluttered, like the three notes are too close

  13. 00:53:483 (2,3,4,1) - Move away the lone circle there, the overlap really doesn't work done

  14. 00:54:912 (1,2,3,4) - When making patterns with symmetry, use symmetrical slidersas i said before

  15. 00:57:198 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nothing to say here, I like this part except maybe have 00:58:912 (1) - be a mirror of 00:58:341 (1) - done

  16. 01:04:055 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is the most intense part of the stream, reflect that by having a higher distance snap k fam

  17. 01:06:912 (3,4) - Symmetrical patterns, symmetrical sliders pls it hurts to see I think its fine :/

  18. 01:09:698 (8,1) - This looks pretty bad. Maybe rotate this 01:09:198 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - counter-clock wise so you're not stuck in the bottom and the same applies to here 01:18:841 (8,1) - K done
  19. 01:14:269 (4,1) - Here it's stuck again, but also I think it'd be best if it went to the left after the stream, for aesthetic and flow k

  20. 01:20:626 (3,4) - Symmetrical patterns, _____________ (At this point I think you can fill the blank) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  21. 01:21:769 (3,4) - ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  22. 01:24:626 - The sound here should be a clickable object and not a spinner head k

  23. Why is the emphasis on this 01:26:483 (4) - note bigger then here 01:26:912 (1) - ???, Think i fixed anyway but stll

  24. 01:38:483 (3,3,4) - The crossing here could be cleaner I barely notice it and It took me like 30 minutes to try and find something that looks semi decent

  25. 01:42:912 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Once again most intense part, should have higher DS

  26. 01:49:198 (3,4) - _________ patterns, __________ sliders (I WONDER WHAT WORD GOES IN THERE' JEEZ I DON'T KNOW) MAYBE SYMMETRICAL BUT I COULD BE AUTISTIC, IDK, I THINK ITS FINE

  27. 01:52:055 (1) - Not a huge fan of this slider shape K ill just copy the other one from the other kiai

  28. 01:52:912 (5,1) - Here I'd take the 5 slider pointing at the other one over them overlapping (or maybe you can make the two happen at the same time)

  29. 02:05:126 (8,1) - Not really sure why there's a cutoff here as this part sounds the same all the way Variation coz 1 straight stream that is dense would be reallllllly boring, even tho the sound itself is REALLLLLY BORRING

  30. 02:05:769 - Also here clickable object, not a slider head and also 02:05:769 (1) - end the spinner at the same place you ended last time for consistency k

  31. 02:16:055 (1,4) - symmetrical ________. symmetrical ________wait nvM yOU GOT IT THIS TIME HOLY SHIT HE DID IT BOYZ

  32. 02:22:483 (1,2) - WILL HE GET IT AGAIN, NOOOOOOOO!!!
    02:25:198 (1,2) -
    02:29:769 (1,2) -
    02:31:483 (1,2) -
    02:46:341 (3,4) -
    02:47:483 (3,4) -
    and another one before I go 02:55:483 (3,4) - YOU ARE TELLING ME TO FIX BUT YOU ARE NOT TELLING ME HOW!!!!!!!!
  33. Not sure that the breaks here 02:33:983 - and here 02:38:341 - are really needed as they are really short removed

  34. 02:42:341 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Stream here looks wonky as hell It looks worse if i use a lower ds or even change the angle etc...

  35. 02:52:626 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Shape of the stream here is pretty wonky too, I'd have this 02:53:483 (1,2,3,4) - look like this but cleaner k

    This is all I have the time for, sorry if I was a bit mean, you were warned Don't worry I know, I responded as such :P
    But hopefully this mod helps you
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oishii
61 posts
Joined August 2015
oishii
You are a 1* mapper... end of story
Saileach
525 posts
Joined November 2014
Topic Starter
Saileach

Sinnoh wrote:

more discord. Please doubt the things I say about flow because I'm not high rank, but I'm usually right with things about aesthetics. I'll have to mention the annoying blankets because someone else will if I do

Mortality
  • Opening spinner maybe? Would be quite appropriate Sure
  1. 00:10:483 (3,4,5) - The spacing around the 4 is odd because none of them have identical spacing. 00:10:626 (4,8) - is slightly farther than 00:10:483 (3,4) - too. It fits in the middle of a triangle made by 00:10:483 (3,4,5,8) -

  2. 00:11:769 (5) - Make this two straight lines, since 5 is currently not in line with the second stream, yet 00:15:198 (5) - is. changed

  3. 00:14:483 (9,10,11) - This might be too close because the jump of 00:14:055 (5,6) - is initially flow jump, but the streams are counter flow. These combined needs a fast mouse movement. But 00:14:340 (8,9) - is with counter flow jump, and with flow stream, those combined need less movement. So move that triple just a bit further, or 00:14:198 (6,7,8) - down. Moved down

  4. 00:16:626 (1) - 00:23:483 (1) - Mute slider end They were muted but the editor fucked up and sent them back to 60%, they were muted in previous versions :/

  5. 00:33:198 (1) - This isn't part of the triangle/hexagon pattern, move it slightly closer Fixed i think

  6. 00:33:769 (5) - If you move the slider head further you get a triangle + fix blanket Fixed

  7. 00:42:341 (1) - Does this spacing work? Fixed

  8. 00:53:483 (2,3) - I know this spacing is too close though Fixed in the previous mod, havent updated

  9. 00:54:055 (2,3,4) - Slider end is not spaced evenly between the circles, ctrl-g it and use ar to fix.

  10. 01:04:055 (1) - Use higher distance here, try something like this Fixed in previous mod, havent updated
    image
  11. 01:06:341 (1,4) - blanket isn't perfect Done

  12. 01:09:769 (1) - I think it would have better circular flow with something like this, but it's obviously difficult to make it look aesthetically correct
    image
    Fixed on the previous mod, seems to be better
  13. 01:11:769 (5) - Fix blanket, head too close Done

  14. 01:14:626 (2) - Just move the slider point at y82 to y72, gives a better circle shape to the slider Fixed in a different way i think

  15. 01:16:055 (3) - Copy paste the slider from 01:15:198 (4) - . They have the same flow + currently the "blanket isn't right because the tail is closer to (4)'s head. didnt copy the slider but did fix i think

  16. 01:18:841 (8,1) - Same pattern as before but this slider is farther away Fixed in previous mod

  17. 01:20:626 (3,4) - Would look better if copy pasted They are copy pasted, they have been control j and h'd

  18. 01:23:483 (1) - Seems a bit close for a 1/1 gap The momentum slows down for this part so its fine i think

  19. 01:28:055 (1) - Move first red slider point over so that both horizontal parts are same distance done

  20. 01:32:483 (6,1) - That's a big ass 1/4 jump, at the very minimum move it down so the slider blankets 01:32:198 (3) - A thing called slider leniency should make it fine tho

  21. 01:36:912 (2,1) - Stack distance is too far

  22. 01:45:769 (5) - For these patterns, I don't think the direction change shouldn't happen until 1 circle later for both. See my rain diff streams to see what I mean. The cursor is change direction before the violin changes.

  23. 01:53:198 (1) - Change this to reverse slider or add another circle 1/2 after. Should do reverse since that's what you do normally. added the extra note

  24. 01:55:483 (1) - Slider isn't perfectly aligned with stream done

  25. 01:57:769 (1) - Imperfect blanket, tail too far done

  26. 02:18:198 (4,2) - Fix stack distances I don't want perfect stacks as i want them to be readable, they are fine the way they are

  27. 02:26:055 (1,2,3,4) - Current positions imply they're all 1/2 jumps, angle more so it's clear they're 1/1 gaps. Others are fine because pattern is now established Since this map is 6.77 stars, if they cant tell there is a 1/1 gap there by listening to the music then they don't deserve to his the notes

  28. 02:37:769 (2) - why is it here, could stack Was meant to be stacked
    silly answer that I would do would be to stack to slider head, and put 02:40:055 (1) - on the tail. (btw i've ranked nothing so take with grain of salt) Believe i did something similar if not the same as what you said

  29. 02:44:626 (1) - Move right to fix circle flow Done

  30. 02:49:198 (1) - Curve slider so that it can still be in correct position for stream end and inside the circle. But this creates flow issue xP Think i fixed

  31. 02:50:055 (4) - Fix blanket, tail too close

  32. 03:11:769 (1) - Keep the spacing equal to the last stream, doesn't feel right to go this low Fixed in previous mod

  33. 03:16:341 (5) - Move this down, final stream doesn't curve right decided to make it all a consistent space

  34. 03:18:912 (1) - Jump flow should put it around x145 y 220, yeah

  35. 03:26:626 (3) - Circular would be better on the right side Fixed

Here's the rest of my rain because I mentioned it in the mod.
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427,161,39615,1,2,0:0:0:0:
388,98,39687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
331,50,39758,1,2,0:0:0:0:
261,24,39830,1,2,0:0:0:0:
186,23,39901,1,2,0:0:0:0:
115,46,39973,1,2,0:0:0:0:
50,85,40045,5,2,0:0:0:0:
153,83,40188,1,2,0:0:0:0:
254,85,40331,1,2,0:0:0:0:
355,90,40473,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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194,184,40902,1,2,0:0:0:0:
284,185,41045,1,2,0:0:0:0:
5,186,41188,5,6,0:0:0:0:
102,190,41331,1,2,0:0:0:0:
200,189,41473,1,2,0:0:0:0:
134,252,41616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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416,120,42331,5,8,0:0:0:0:
432,48,42473,1,2,0:0:0:0:
304,112,42616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,40,42759,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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40,112,43188,1,2,0:0:0:0:
16,200,43331,1,2,0:0:0:0:
424,264,43473,5,4,0:0:0:0:
144,280,43854,1,2,0:0:0:0:
96,272,43950,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,264,44045,2,0,P|16:224|136:96,1,262.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
496,88,44616,5,4,0:0:0:0:
280,40,46045,6,0,B|56:184,2,225.000008583069,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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408,192,47188,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,192,47331,2,0,L|224:280,1,75,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,296,47616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,232,47759,2,0,L|440:320,1,75,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,56,48045,6,0,L|239:159,1,75,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,56,48331,2,0,L|64:127,1,75,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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416,40,48902,2,0,L|464:128,1,75,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,208,49188,6,0,P|136:192|136:96,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,136,49616,2,0,P|336:104|272:88,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,64,50045,2,8,L|40:64,1,75,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,288,50331,6,0,B|467:296|495:371|405:148,1,262.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,112,50902,6,0,B|280:104|224:136|216:160|216:160|272:216,1,262.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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224,304,52045,2,0,B|184:296|32:296|168:192,1,196.875007510186,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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32,104,53473,1,2,0:0:0:0:
32,152,53545,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,200,53616,1,2,0:0:0:0:
88,240,53687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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288,176,56473,1,2,0:0:0:0:
144,304,56616,5,2,0:0:0:0:
86,257,56687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
68,186,56758,1,2,0:0:0:0:
80,120,56830,1,2,0:0:0:0:
104,64,56901,1,10,0:0:0:0:
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192,80,57044,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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Wow bbcode is cool and dumb
headphonewearer
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headphonewearer
ill tell you when i finish the gd
Saileach
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Saileach
:O
HML
343 posts
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HML
plz no ming jokes
headphonewearer
788 posts
Joined October 2014
headphonewearer
Why have MinG when we can have HML?

edit: eh, idk if i want to finish the gd, song is repetitive and such. not really fun to map. sorry :(
ill shoot 3 stars tho, good luck
Nikakis
769 posts
Joined May 2014
Nikakis
I love you for making an Epica song,take my stars
Saileach
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Topic Starter
Saileach
Thanks!
Luna Flina
63 posts
Joined May 2015
Luna Flina
Normal
01:09:769 (1) - there's no need for this note for a normal diff
01:18:912 (2) - ^
02:00:055 (2) - ^
02:49:198 (1) - ^
02:58:341 (1) - ^

01:22:341 (1) - I think you can turn this to a 1-4-7 reverse slider

01:42:912 (4) - change the slider direction closer to the 1

01:08:626 (1) - don't new combo this slider
01:17:769 (1) - ^
01:58:912 (1) - ^
02:01:198 (1) - ^
02:57:198 (1) - ^

01:10:055 (2) - instead, new combo this
02:00:341 (3) - ^
02:58:626 (2) - ^

I just want to check this. I should leave the harder ones to others cause i don't want to screw them up >_>
Saileach
525 posts
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Topic Starter
Saileach

Luna Flina wrote:

Normal
01:09:769 (1) - there's no need for this note for a normal diff
01:18:912 (2) - ^
02:00:055 (2) - ^
02:49:198 (1) - ^
02:58:341 (1) - ^ They might not be needed but to me it feels empty without it

01:22:341 (1) - I think you can turn this to a 1-4-7 reverse slider Done

01:42:912 (4) - change the slider direction closer to the 1 Done

01:08:626 (1) - don't new combo this slider
01:17:769 (1) - ^
01:58:912 (1) - ^
02:01:198 (1) - ^
02:57:198 (1) - ^

01:10:055 (2) - instead, new combo this
02:00:341 (3) - ^
02:58:626 (2) - ^While i didn't use all of your suggestions for new combos, it made me go over them and made some changes

I just want to check this. I should leave the harder ones to others cause i don't want to screw them up >_>


Sorry for the late reply to the mod, thanks for modding!
Living Flower
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Living Flower
okay, it's my first modding try, pls don't be that harsh with me >.<

Fizz's Hard
At first, I want to know, why you choosed Digits for your difficulty Settings like "CS:3.6", or "4.8"? What was the Intention behind it?
I also recommend to use the following Settings for this Hard:
CS:5
AR:7
OD:7
HP:6

It makes the map a bit more challenging and would fit perfectly a Hard (on my opinion)
I would also recommend to take a look back to the breaks, since some of them Looks a bit weird spaced like this one:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7256880

Another Thing: Since there is a Holding time (I don't know how to call it right) between 02:33:197 (1,2) - and 02:37:769 (1,1) - I recommand to put some breaks there, too. It would Hype in my opinion the momentum there very high and there are actually no reason to me to let the HP bar drain (but maybe you've got some, if so, I would be interested to hear them. It shouldn't Sound like I want to offending you, I want just to understand >.< )

Besides all this, the diff Looks very good mapped. Well done! 8-)
Fizz
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Joined September 2013
Fizz

Living Flower wrote:

okay, it's my first modding try, pls don't be that harsh with me >.<

Fizz's Hard
At first, I want to know, why you choosed Digits for your difficulty Settings like "CS:3.6", or "4.8"? What was the Intention behind it? just for the difficulty spread; the insane is CS 3.8 and HP 5, so I made them a little lower to fit. However I don't think going all the way down to HP 4 or 4.5 would be appropriate.
I also recommend to use the following Settings for this Hard:
CS:5
AR:7
OD:7
HP:6

I'll assume you mean CS 4 here- Again the CS choice is in interest of keeping the difficulties in ascending order. AR 8 is very common for hards and, in my opinion, is even a little too slow for this song but I've decided to keep it at 8.OD 6 is the common OD for hards, OD 7 is very rare and would be overly difficult for a 210 BPM song.HP was explained above (and this one matters the least really, HP does not affect gameplay in a direct sense)

It makes the map a bit more challenging and would fit perfectly a Hard (on my opinion)
I would also recommend to take a look back to the breaks, since some of them Looks a bit weird spaced like this one:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7256880 This is intentional, it's a bit nicer to have the break fully start at the big white tick.

Another Thing: Since there is a Holding time (I don't know how to call it right) between 02:33:197 (1,2) - and 02:37:769 (1,1) - I recommand to put some breaks there, too. It would Hype in my opinion the momentum there very high and there are actually no reason to me to let the HP bar drain (but maybe you've got some, if so, I would be interested to hear them. It shouldn't Sound like I want to offending you, I want just to understand >.< ) I like this suggestion, however the gap between 02:35:197 (2) - and 02:36:626 (1) - is too small to have a break there. This would make it inconsistent and odd in my opinion. If the situation was different I probably would have accepted this suggestion, though

Besides all this, the diff Looks very good mapped. Well done! 8-) Thank you!
Sorry for not accepting any suggestions, but hopefully this info can help you.
idke
Former osu! Champion: 2019
107 posts
Joined July 2014
idke
reminds me of uta because of two streams in the end

also im a random person but may i map the extra xd
Moonlit
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Moonlit
who is idke
idke
Former osu! Champion: 2019
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idke

Moonlit wrote:

who is idke
unsure
fieryrage
osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II
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fieryrage
artist is titled Epica not EPICA; title is Victims of Contingency as per iTunes official metadata https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-q ... d853300223
(should probably add "the" in tags, as well)

idke asked for playtest, solid but pointed out two things mainly related to the slow section starting 02:16:054 (1) - here and how it's comparatively pretty undermapped considering the entire map (also fixed overlap 02:16:626 (2,1) - here); also told to increase ar to 9.5 to fit spread

insane at od 7.3 but ar 9.2 thinking emoji
Saileach
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Saileach

fieryrage wrote:

artist is titled Epica not EPICA; title is Victims of Contingency as per iTunes official metadata https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the-q ... d853300223
(should probably add "the" in tags, as well) From what ive been told, itunes isnt always a reliable source for metadata since their official website (http://www.epica.nl/) has EPICA in capitals, i think it may be interchangeable since it does not seem to be consistent at all. Also on nearly all of Nuclear Blast Records music videos on youtube (which is their label owner/manager thing) has EPICA capitalized, ill have to consult someone.

idke asked for playtest, solid but pointed out two things mainly related to the slow section starting 02:16:054 (1) - here and how it's comparatively pretty undermapped considering the entire map (also fixed overlap 02:16:626 (2,1) - here); also told to increase ar to 9.5 to fit spread done

insane at od 7.3 but ar 9.2 thinking emoji dropped to 9 and increased od
Pituophis
859 posts
Joined January 2015
Pituophis
Maybe bump the hp up a little on Mortality? Was a little too easy to pass for a 7 star map.
idke
Former osu! Champion: 2019
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idke
7 months later and heres ur hitsounded version of extra + fixes and extra diff spikes lol
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/ySDku/8304f87385.txt
Saileach
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Saileach
o shit whaddup
Xinnoh
Elite Mapper
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Xinnoh
o shit waddup
Akito
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Akito
milkbar furries
Saileach
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:tangery:
Smradupan
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Smradupan
Greetings, a random mod coming in :) good luck with ranking this.

Normal: OD 1 is too low for a normal diff. imo
Fizz´s Hard: 02:33:197 (1) messy overlap, fix please
03:02:483 (2,3,1) same problem
Insane: 01:40:197 (1) This slider feels better 2 ticks shorter
Saileach
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Saileach
normal: Increased OD and HP to 3

Insane: reduced the 2 ticks like suggested
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