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Feint - Watch Me

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Nikakis
Chilling song and very solid made.Wish you the best!
vanucik
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Shmiklak
What does it mean?
vanucik
хорошая игра и мнения интересные, бтв теперь я считаю, что это pishinucik's sight
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Topic Starter
Shmiklak
In my opinion your diff still needs some work because some patterns are still questionable. That's what I think:
01:11:277 (2,3,4) - too far
01:22:312 (2,3,4) -perfect
01:33:346 (2,3,4) - far
01:38:863 (2,3,4) - ^
01:44:381 (2,3,4) -too far
01:49:898 (2,3,4) - far
I hope that you are gonna fix all of these things
vanucik
можешь добавить старую версию моего инсейна в описание (подписать vanucik's insane old version), я хочу, чтобы она висела вместе с испорченным куском говна (у меня нет выбора)
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Topic Starter
Shmiklak
Looks okayish for me now. I hope it will look so for pishifat too!
Hikomori
vanucik's sight: 01:32:312 (4) - this one breaks flow imo
Topic Starter
Shmiklak
nah it doesn't. vanucik says that it's okay
pishifat
changes to the 1/4stuff looks good for the most part

only one that sucks is 01:27:829 (2,3,4,5) - . the point of reducing the 1/4 spacing is so it's visually different from 1/2 spacing, but here you reduced spacing between 4 and 5 to the same low spacing as your 1/4 stuff :( should increase spacing between 4 and 5 somehow (which might require rearranging things)

shmik insane: 01:46:794 (1,2) - tail snapping
Topic Starter
Shmiklak
updated both diffs
pishifat
vanucik

pishifat wrote:

Raveille

vanucik wrote:

pishifat wrote:

Azinlen
hello
Strategas
[vanucik]
00:38:519 (3,5) - reverse hitsounds - clap should be on 5
[insane]

00:50:932 (3) - no idea why you don't do it same as 00:52:312 (3,4) - 00:53:691 (3,4) - you follow strong sounds in one place and don't in another

00:55:846 (1) - spinner feels random tbh, would suggest having a break here like other diffs

01:13:346 (1) - I get what you're doing with these, but they need a better distinction from other sliders than just an NC, it hurts playability a lot since you would expect non extended sliders here zzz. I would suggest making the spacing smaller between stuff like 01:13:346 (1,1) - or if you feel like it, could make the slider shape that follows that sound unique and then constantly use it on those sv changes. First option is better for playabilty, second for coolness so whatever you want. In case you weren't aware it applies to your whole kiai.

lower diffs look good
Topic Starter
Shmiklak
fixed everything
Strategas
h e a r t
riffy
Might need kwan to recheck metadata: https://soundcloud.com/feintdnb/watch-me

Edit: yt also confirms

edit2: 01:29:381 (3) - would vanucik explain why is this slider here? I am concerned about passive rhythm on 01:29:725 - as in other instances it is a clickable beat. 01:31:105 (5) - 01:26:967 (5) - and some other examples. Oh, and this is literally the only slider with a reverse in the whole part. Seemed somwhat weird to me.
vanucik

Bakari wrote:

edit2: 01:29:381 (3) - would vanucik explain why is this slider here? I am concerned about passive rhythm on 01:29:725 - as in other instances it is a clickable beat. 01:31:105 (5) - 01:26:967 (5) - and some other examples. Oh, and this is literally the only slider with a reverse in the whole part. Seemed somwhat weird to me.
Хм, я думаю, что один реверс можно вставить, чтобы дать немного отдыха для игрока после джампов (и первых двух киаи), то что он один, для меня ничего не значит, это не анранк какой-то. Упустить этот звук один раз из-за реверса не значит ничего плохого.
pishifat
shmiklak doesnt have a source for the (original mix) thing, so let's fix that
riffy
@vanucik why would you need a less dense pattern in a one minute long diff? especially when the music provides zero variety
vanucik

Bakari wrote:

@vanucik why would you need a less dense pattern in a one minute long diff? especially when the music provides zero variety
Я не обязан оправдываться за этот слайдер, это самый обычный игровой объект. То, что он единственный в моей сложности ничего не значит, захотел после джампов поставить его - поставил, я думаю это обычная придирка, не понимаю, что тут ужасного. Слайдер, он и в Африке слайдер. Зиро вариети - добавить реверс, вот и всё.
riffy
Суть в том, что ты противоречишь своему же ритму. Этот реверс там совсем необоснован, он бросается в глаза и игнорирует ударные

Более того, ты не можешь никак его обосновать.
Namki
well,
kinda solid but I don't see this issue that big as you've written it lol
having consistent rhythm is great but either clickable or not is fine as for me
also, 01:33:863 - and 01:39:381 - why haven't you mentioned these as well. they went sorta inconsistent according your post.
idk what are you complaining here tbh
gl
riffy
good point, guess we could consider changing these as well!
Namki
that's not what I meant!
riffy
thing is, the mapper changes the way they handle these rhythms in the middle of kiai with no usical reason for that.

Here, 01:28:174 (4) - we see the same instance of passive rhythm on the drum sample, compare this with 01:08:863 (3,4) - 01:11:536 (3,4,5) - 01:12:829 (3,4) - and then for some reason mapper occasionally gets back to the initial rhythm in instances like 01:31:105 (5,6) - the difference is quite reasonable as we shift from jumps to actual clickable objects to slidertails that require practically zero accuracy. If you really want to give some variety, then it is better to start alterating patterns right away in the very first kiai. Assuring consistency and balanced rhythm.

I believe that variety is a great thing, but then it should arranged in a way that would be somewhat more balanced, rather than starting mixing things up near the end of the map.

Good think Namki highlighted that, guess we can discuss the thing in detail.
vanucik
не вижу смысла обсуждать это
шмиклак, не забудь исправить хсы, я не помню, какие были на реверсе
у меня к тебе предложение насчёт 01:06:450 - сделать его кликабельным, а то нажать хочется а может быть я просто свою дифу чутка переиграл
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Topic Starter
Shmiklak
Да, исправил. Updated!
pishifat
metadata and vanucik's thing seem settled, so rebub
Strategas
back
Hikomori
gratz!!
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