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M2U - Magnolia (feat. Guriri)

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Sulfur
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Sulfur
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 11 июля 2017 г. at 1:24:07

Artist: M2U
Title: Magnolia (feat. Guriri)
Source: Deemo
Tags: wav.av. rayark sammish finshie pandahero diversity dubstep electronic
BPM: 160
Filesize: 3398kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Collab Expert (4,88 stars, 435 notes)
  2. Easy (1,52 stars, 138 notes)
  3. Finshie's Insane (4,16 stars, 402 notes)
  4. Hard (3,13 stars, 286 notes)
  5. Normal (1,93 stars, 211 notes)
  6. PandaHero's Advanced (2,35 stars, 205 notes)
Download: M2U - Magnolia (feat. Guriri)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Click here to download Light Insane by Lince Cosmico

Easy and Normal by me
PandaHero's Advanced by PandaHero
Hard by me
Finshie's Insane by Finshie
Collab Extra by me and sammish
Hitsounds from kevincela's set
Banner by VezAgera
Thanks to KittyAdventure for help with metadata and tags

[box=collab parts]For Collab Extreme: sammish mapped kiai (from 01:21:637 - to 01:45:074 - ), I mapped everything else
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Last edited by Sulfur , edited 165 times in total.
Booze
220 posts
Joined July 2014
Booze
/savelog
19:05 isopaharuntikka: 00:07:574 (2,3,4) - this straightedness tilts me
19:05 isopaharuntikka: i guess its fine since you use it a lot,
19:05 Su1fu7: its my style >:\
19:05 isopaharuntikka: ya
19:06 Su1fu7: im gonna get memed for 5degree rotations
19:06 Su1fu7: butw/e
19:06 Su1fu7: in every single map that i made
19:06 isopaharuntikka: 00:20:887 (3) - i think this could be spaced further since 00:21:074 (1) - is spaced further from 00:20:512 (1) -
19:07 isopaharuntikka: 00:23:512 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - in this part i'd use spacing that would go from big to small
19:07 isopaharuntikka: kinda feels empty atm
19:08 isopaharuntikka: could be a nice transiton to the small spacing in next part too
19:08 Su1fu7: its upsidedown eiffel tower
19:08 Su1fu7: :o
19:08 isopaharuntikka: more like a ketchup bottle :o
19:08 Su1fu7: fuck
19:09 Su1fu7: i guess i change spacing here
19:09 Su1fu7: just need to figure how to make it looks good
19:09 isopaharuntikka: 00:41:887 (2) - i think it would feel better if you stacked this with 00:41:512 (1) -
19:09 isopaharuntikka: same with 00:47:887 (4) -
19:10 isopaharuntikka: and the other parts afterwards
19:10 isopaharuntikka: but i guess it's fine as it is
19:10 isopaharuntikka: since you use that concept consistently
19:10 Su1fu7: yea
19:10 isopaharuntikka: 00:52:012 (1) - id use a faster sv here
19:10 isopaharuntikka: transition doesnt have that aaaaaaaaaaah feel
19:11 isopaharuntikka: i guess it's more of a looooooooooooooh feel
19:11 isopaharuntikka: maybe you could do like
19:11 Su1fu7: i tried to
19:11 Su1fu7: but the i was like "what sv do i use in kiai?"
19:11 isopaharuntikka: alright
19:12 isopaharuntikka: this song is amazing
19:12 isopaharuntikka: luv it
19:12 Su1fu7: Thanks for help
19:12 Su1fu7: I agree
sammish
119 posts
Joined May 2014
sammish
its ya boiiiiiiii
Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie
yeahj
23:30 Su1fu7: heyo, are you up for testplay?
23:31 Finshie: yea 
23:31 Finshie: magnolia?
23:31 Su1fu7: yeahj
23:31 *Su1fu7 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1299913 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia]
23:34 Finshie: p gud
23:34 Su1fu7: thanks
23:35 Su1fu7: anything that you would suggest to change?
23:35 Finshie: i still feel like 00:40:012 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - needs to be map more
23:36 Su1fu7: i tried
23:36 Su1fu7: but it feels forced af
23:36 Finshie: like if u follow the vocals
23:37 Finshie: like this 00:46:012 (1,2) - one
23:37 Finshie: you can do 4 1/2s here
23:38 Su1fu7: :thinking:
23:39 Su1fu7: god bless sammish for mapping kiai
23:39 Su1fu7: i wouldnt finish it myself
23:39 Finshie: 00:14:512 (1) - https://puu.sh/w1Ko0/bbee8c60ba.png
23:39 Finshie: yea the kiai is really fun
23:40 Finshie: also this overlap doesnt look good 00:21:637 (1,1) - lol
23:40 Finshie: imo
23:41 Su1fu7: its ar 9.4
23:41 Su1fu7: you can see it only in editor
23:44 Su1fu7: about 00:14:512 (5,6,7,8) - stuff
23:45 Finshie: yea?
23:45 Su1fu7: 00:15:637 (1) - do i replace it with for circles or with 2 circles and repeat
23:45 Su1fu7: what do you think?
23:46 Finshie: why would u wanna replace it too?
23:46 Finshie: i think that slider is fine
23:46 Su1fu7: actually no i leave it as it is
23:46 Su1fu7: yea im dumb
23:46 Finshie: it still bothering me that it ends on 00:16:199 - 
23:47 Su1fu7: its my style >:\
23:47 Su1fu7: jk changed it
23:48 Finshie: you can have something here 00:20:793 - 
23:48 Finshie: maybe triples or 1/4 slider or u can keep it as it is i guess
23:50 Su1fu7: i guess ill keep it as it is
23:50 Finshie: if u did change 00:15:637 (1) - might as well change 00:21:637 (1) - but its up to you
23:52 Su1fu7: yea i changed this one too
23:53 Su1fu7: btw you can post it on forum for free cooldosu
23:53 Finshie: sure
23:53 Su1fu7: thanks for help
23:53 Finshie: np
23:54 Finshie: are we done now lol i can still continue if u want
23:54 Su1fu7: lets go
23:55 Su1fu7: theres a bunch of stuff to polish lol
23:56 Finshie: i liked this slider you made on wicked fate btw https://puu.sh/w1L3r/7dd85aae0a.png
23:56 Finshie: maybe u can insert that somewhere lul
23:57 Su1fu7: lemme restart oss
23:57 Finshie: aight
23:58 Su1fu7: about those sliders
23:58 Su1fu7: idk where to put them lol
23:58 Finshie: 00:46:012 (1) - what i mentioned before
23:58 Finshie: u used 4 1/2s here 00:34:012 (1,2,3,4) - 
23:59 Su1fu7: shiet
23:59 Su1fu7: u write
23:59 Su1fu7: 4 1/2 here we go i guess
00:01 Finshie: 00:43:762 (2) - can do something here too
00:02 Finshie: 1/1 reverse is kinda weird on insane
00:03 Finshie: if you wanna keep it just change distance of these 3
00:04 Finshie: 00:42:262 (5,1,2) - since 5>1 is 1/1 and 1>2 is 1/2 but 5>1 is closer
00:04 Finshie: its kinda confusing
00:06 Su1fu7: fixed spacing on those
00:06 Su1fu7: still working with 1/2 things
00:07 Finshie: 00:46:012 (1,2,3) - ds
00:07 Finshie: oh nvm ur changing that to 1/2 anyway
00:07 Su1fu7: ds is a meme
00:08 Su1fu7: actually
00:08 Su1fu7: i dont reallu think i shoud change those
00:08 Finshie: the long slider?
00:08 Su1fu7: coz 00:35:512 (1,2,3,4) - theres a piano or whateverit is
00:09 Su1fu7: 00:46:012 (1,2,3) -
00:09 Su1fu7: those to 1/2
00:15 Finshie: 01:18:262 (1) - ctrl g maybe so 01:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - direction are all the same
00:16 Finshie: 01:18:824 (4) - why youd stop making the pattern like 01:18:262 (1,2,3) - ?
00:17 Su1fu7: coz 1and 2,3,4 is like different sounds
00:17 Su1fu7: kinda
00:17 Su1fu7: not really
00:17 Su1fu7: so its basically 2 groups
00:17 Finshie: yea not really its just gettng louder
00:18 Finshie: hm
00:19 Finshie: also before this get dq'd put a preview point
00:20 Su1fu7: i did already
00:20 Su1fu7: after uploading ofc coz im dumb
00:21 Su1fu7: also saying "b4 it got dq'd" like it will ever get to qualified lol
00:21 Finshie: lol pls
00:21 Su1fu7: its too bad
00:21 Su1fu7: yet
00:21 Su1fu7: also i randomly got message from a guy asking can he gd it
00:22 Su1fu7: i never even talked with this guy b3 what the
00:22 Su1fu7: weird
00:22 Finshie: lol
00:22 Finshie: i got that message sometime
00:22 Finshie: he probably saw ur wicked fate
00:23 Su1fu7: uhh
00:23 Su1fu7: i regret everything
00:24 Finshie: 01:06:074 (2,3,4) - 
00:25 Finshie: 02:12:074 (3,4) - 
00:25 Finshie: unstack 02:12:074 (3,4) - 
00:26 Finshie: if you wanna have slider at the end , start at 02:20:137 - or 02:20:230 - 
00:27 Su1fu7: w8
00:27 Su1fu7: 02:20:137 (4) -
00:27 Su1fu7: its already here
00:27 Finshie: remove it
00:27 Finshie: kinda weird to cut it with spinner
00:29 Finshie: end it at 02:22:137 - weird how it ends at 1/3
00:30 Finshie: the one you bookmarked doesnt have an indication that it should end there
00:30 Su1fu7: 02:22:105 - i think this one is better tho
00:30 Su1fu7: wich one i bookmarked, could you link it please
00:31 Su1fu7: coz i removed all bookmarks :/
00:31 Finshie: what
00:31 Finshie: 02:22:012 - 
00:31 Finshie: theres a bookmark
00:32 Finshie: if u end it at 02:22:105 - it sounds to early
00:32 Su1fu7: you're right
00:32 Su1fu7: 137 here we go
00:33 Finshie: https://puu.sh/w1MCa/d8572e1a3f.png
00:33 Finshie: for 1miss
00:34 Finshie: ok im done
00:34 Finshie: cant mod wubs cus i have no clue about it
00:34 Su1fu7: thats dickish
00:34 Su1fu7: that note
00:34 Su1fu7: same lol
PandaHero
662 posts
Joined November 2011
PandaHero
wubs part is cool owo
Gordon
531 posts
Joined January 2016
Gordon
Fun diff but the kiai spike feels a whole lot harder than the other top 2 diffs. So I'm going to ask for a nerf on the kiai part. Everything looks fine and dandy!
Finishie's Insane Mod
01:22:480 (3) - Remove
01:22:949 (6) - Remove
01:25:480 (4) - Remove
01:25:949 (1) - Remove
01:27:074 (1,1) - Don't really think it fits rhythmically here
01:28:480 (3) - Remove
01:28:949 (1) - Remove
01:31:480 (4) - Remove
01:34:293 (2) - Remove
01:39:074 (1,1) - Again
01:40:949 (1) - Remove
01:41:230 (3) - Remove

You can take this into consideration if you want or you can ignore your choice. Just think it would help the diff out a little :)

Soul~
Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie

Mistaken wrote:

Fun diff but the kiai spike feels a whole lot harder than the other top 2 diffs. So I'm going to ask for a nerf on the kiai part. Everything looks fine and dandy!
Finishie's Insane Mod
01:22:480 (3) - Remove
01:22:949 (6) - Remove
01:25:480 (4) - Remove
01:25:949 (1) - Remove
01:27:074 (1,1) - Don't really think it fits rhythmically here the buzz slider sounds right to me.
01:28:480 (3) - Remove
01:28:949 (1) - Remove
01:31:480 (4) - Remove
01:34:293 (2) - Remove this is fine.
01:39:074 (1,1) - Again same
01:40:949 (1) - Remove did this to make it identical to 01:41:230 (3,4) - wasnt that bad.
01:41:230 (3) - Remove it sounds right to me.

You can take this into consideration if you want or you can ignore your choice. Just think it would help the diff out a little :)

no reply=fixed

Soul~
yea abit overmap tbh but i really dont want to have my kiai have bunch of 3/4s but if it really needs to i might have to.
Bastionior
560 posts
Joined January 2013
Bastionior
Hi there, i gonna post some logchat about marianna's extra
IRClog
18:11 Marianna: tendo em vista que eu não mappeio musica assim e que eu não estou muito a vontade mappeando esses dias o que você acha?
18:11 Marianna: ;np
18:11 *Marianna is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1310000 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia [Marianna's Extra]]
18:12 Kalindraz: pera
18:12 Kalindraz: vo baixar
18:12 Kalindraz: ~
18:16 Kalindraz: 4.25 extra
18:16 Kalindraz: pensando*
18:17 Marianna: olha o mapa
18:18 Kalindraz: 00:30:262 (4,5,6,7) -  suspostamente um NC devido a mudança de ds
18:18 Marianna: okay
18:19 Kalindraz: 00:33:824 -  00:33:918 -  ignorou o piano  :(, mas pode deixar asssim tendo em vista que seguiu o vocal
18:20 Marianna: omg eu vou stakear aqui 00:34:012 (1) - 00:33:824 -
18:20 Marianna: pra ficar bonitinho
18:20 Marianna: pq n tem stack rs
18:20 Kalindraz: 00:37:012 (1) -  bem esse slider nao deveria terminar ai, se voce está seguindo o vocal conforme disse acima a duração dele só vai até aqui 00:37:387 -  e eu sugeria outro slider aqui 00:37:762 -  para reforçar sua ideia de vocal
18:21 Kalindraz: 00:39:637 (3) -  well voce poderia repensar a respeito acho que realmente aqui precisaria de um slider 1/6 e proximo dessa nota 00:40:012 (1) -  o som da harpa é mto lindo pra nao ser mapeado, que tal?
18:22 Marianna: Eu não estou seguindo o vocal de forma literal e como essa parte é mais calma não vejo problema em estender um pouco isso 00:37:012 (1) -
18:22 Kalindraz: ah sim, menos mal
18:23 Marianna: eu vou considerar a ideia da harpa, mas do jeito que eu mappeei completamente voltado ao vocal e ao piano ficaria um pouco estranho
18:24 Kalindraz: 00:42:449 -  bem eu sinto que deveria ter algo clicavel aqui por causa do violoncelo, mas pode deixar dessa forma que segue bem!
18:24 Marianna: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8246361 esse jump ficou mt grande? sjagdas
18:25 Kalindraz: sim lol é 1/6
18:26 Kalindraz: continuando
18:26 Marianna: ok dei um jeito aqui
18:26 Kalindraz: 00:56:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
18:27 Kalindraz: esse foi o unico combo que as notas estão stacadas se levar em consideração todos os outros dessa sessão, provavelmente alguem vai reparar isso, poderia retira-los?
18:27 Marianna: 00:59:512 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:27 Marianna: 01:02:512 (1,2,1) -
18:27 Marianna: é o primeiro, não o único
18:28 Kalindraz: bem mas esse segundo da ligação a um proximo com mudança de sv
18:28 Kalindraz: eu falei em relação aos outros
18:28 Kalindraz: principalmente anteriores
18:28 Kalindraz: 01:12:637 (8) -  yeah, nc pra representação das jump stream
18:29 Kalindraz: 01:15:637 (8) -  same my dear
18:29 Marianna: mas veja só, se eu tivesse feito igual aos outros, os seguintes estariam errados, foi por isso que a partir daí eu dei uma "quebrada" alternando entre eles
18:29 Marianna: ah, não sabia que precisava, vou pôr*-*
18:29 Marianna: 01:18:637 (8) - aqui tbm né?
18:29 Kalindraz: yeah
18:29 Marianna: 01:18:637 (8) - aqui tbm né?
18:30 Kalindraz: 01:20:887 (3) -  also isso fica bem interpretado se substituir por 2 1/4 pq aqui é outro beat drop 01:21:074 -  ooo
18:30 Kalindraz: 01:22:574 (1,1) -  nazi ncs lmao
18:31 Marianna: 01:22:012 - eu tenho medo é disso
18:31 Marianna: calma
18:31 Marianna: tipo
18:31 Kalindraz: well os drop ta muito bom!
18:31 Marianna: aqui 01:20:512 - 1,3x 01:20:887 - aqui 1,2x e aqui 01:21:449 - 1x?
18:32 Marianna: foi isso que vc quis dizer?
18:32 Kalindraz: nao
18:32 Kalindraz: kkkkk
18:32 Kalindraz: tipo
18:32 Kalindraz: 01:20:887 (3) - 
18:32 Kalindraz: isso
18:32 Kalindraz: substitue por 2 slider 1/4
18:32 Kalindraz: pra reforçar na sua interpretação
18:32 Kalindraz: pq aqui 01:21:074 - 
18:32 Kalindraz: é um drop
18:32 Kalindraz: e nao fica mto bem esse slider 1/2
18:33 Kalindraz: pelo menos ao meu ver
18:34 Marianna: ah sim
18:34 Marianna: pronto
18:34 Kalindraz: well isso 01:25:949 (2) -  está como jump stream para isso 01:26:043 (3) -  mas isso 01:35:699 (2,3) -  nao?? 
18:35 Marianna: são ocasiões totalmente diferentes
18:35 Kalindraz: bem, apenas citei xd
18:35 Kalindraz: continuando
18:35 Kalindraz: 01:46:387 (2,3,5) -  pode fixar o padrao de distancia oo só mover um pouquinho pra cima o 2
18:36 Marianna: 01:25:949 (2) - aqui é uma parte super forte pra se por em stack a outro 01:35:699 - mas aqui é uma parte, comparada com aquela, simples demais pra deixar um jump
18:36 Marianna: ]]okay fix
18:37 Kalindraz: well final bem feito 
18:37 Kalindraz: 2 ritmos distintos
18:37 Kalindraz: super bacana
18:37 Marianna: *-* omg
18:37 Kalindraz: well ultimo ponto
18:38 Kalindraz: 02:18:637 (1) -  bem, só buffa mais um pouco a distancia pra mostrar mais enfasê conforme voce fez 
18:38 Kalindraz: fora isso está mto bom
18:38 Marianna: okay :3
18:39 Marianna: obg mesmo
18:39 Marianna: tava precisando
18:39 Kalindraz: relaxa
18:39 Kalindraz: como disse
18:39 Kalindraz: voce mapeia mto bem
18:39 Kalindraz: eu nunca vou desgostar algo seu
18:39 Kalindraz: ahaha
18:41 Marianna: kkkk posta isso lá*-*
18:41 Kalindraz: okay
Marianna
1,392 posts
Joined July 2015
Marianna

Kalindraz wrote:

Hi there, i gonna post some logchat about marianna's extra
IRClog
18:11 Marianna: tendo em vista que eu não mappeio musica assim e que eu não estou muito a vontade mappeando esses dias o que você acha?
18:11 Marianna: ;np
18:11 *Marianna is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1310000 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia [Marianna's Extra]]
18:12 Kalindraz: pera
18:12 Kalindraz: vo baixar
18:12 Kalindraz: ~
18:16 Kalindraz: 4.25 extra
18:16 Kalindraz: pensando*
18:17 Marianna: olha o mapa
18:18 Kalindraz: 00:30:262 (4,5,6,7) -  suspostamente um NC devido a mudança de ds
18:18 Marianna: okay
18:19 Kalindraz: 00:33:824 -  00:33:918 -  ignorou o piano  :(, mas pode deixar asssim tendo em vista que seguiu o vocal
18:20 Marianna: omg eu vou stakear aqui 00:34:012 (1) - 00:33:824 -
18:20 Marianna: pra ficar bonitinho
18:20 Marianna: pq n tem stack rs
18:20 Kalindraz: 00:37:012 (1) -  bem esse slider nao deveria terminar ai, se voce está seguindo o vocal conforme disse acima a duração dele só vai até aqui 00:37:387 -  e eu sugeria outro slider aqui 00:37:762 -  para reforçar sua ideia de vocal
18:21 Kalindraz: 00:39:637 (3) -  well voce poderia repensar a respeito acho que realmente aqui precisaria de um slider 1/6 e proximo dessa nota 00:40:012 (1) -  o som da harpa é mto lindo pra nao ser mapeado, que tal?
18:22 Marianna: Eu não estou seguindo o vocal de forma literal e como essa parte é mais calma não vejo problema em estender um pouco isso 00:37:012 (1) -
18:22 Kalindraz: ah sim, menos mal
18:23 Marianna: eu vou considerar a ideia da harpa, mas do jeito que eu mappeei completamente voltado ao vocal e ao piano ficaria um pouco estranho
18:24 Kalindraz: 00:42:449 -  bem eu sinto que deveria ter algo clicavel aqui por causa do violoncelo, mas pode deixar dessa forma que segue bem!
18:24 Marianna: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8246361 esse jump ficou mt grande? sjagdas
18:25 Kalindraz: sim lol é 1/6
18:26 Kalindraz: continuando
18:26 Marianna: ok dei um jeito aqui
18:26 Kalindraz: 00:56:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - 
18:27 Kalindraz: esse foi o unico combo que as notas estão stacadas se levar em consideração todos os outros dessa sessão, provavelmente alguem vai reparar isso, poderia retira-los?
18:27 Marianna: 00:59:512 (1,2,3,4,5) -
18:27 Marianna: 01:02:512 (1,2,1) -
18:27 Marianna: é o primeiro, não o único
18:28 Kalindraz: bem mas esse segundo da ligação a um proximo com mudança de sv
18:28 Kalindraz: eu falei em relação aos outros
18:28 Kalindraz: principalmente anteriores
18:28 Kalindraz: 01:12:637 (8) -  yeah, nc pra representação das jump stream
18:29 Kalindraz: 01:15:637 (8) -  same my dear
18:29 Marianna: mas veja só, se eu tivesse feito igual aos outros, os seguintes estariam errados, foi por isso que a partir daí eu dei uma "quebrada" alternando entre eles
18:29 Marianna: ah, não sabia que precisava, vou pôr*-*
18:29 Marianna: 01:18:637 (8) - aqui tbm né?
18:29 Kalindraz: yeah
18:29 Marianna: 01:18:637 (8) - aqui tbm né?
18:30 Kalindraz: 01:20:887 (3) -  also isso fica bem interpretado se substituir por 2 1/4 pq aqui é outro beat drop 01:21:074 -  ooo
18:30 Kalindraz: 01:22:574 (1,1) -  nazi ncs lmao
18:31 Marianna: 01:22:012 - eu tenho medo é disso
18:31 Marianna: calma
18:31 Marianna: tipo
18:31 Kalindraz: well os drop ta muito bom!
18:31 Marianna: aqui 01:20:512 - 1,3x 01:20:887 - aqui 1,2x e aqui 01:21:449 - 1x?
18:32 Marianna: foi isso que vc quis dizer?
18:32 Kalindraz: nao
18:32 Kalindraz: kkkkk
18:32 Kalindraz: tipo
18:32 Kalindraz: 01:20:887 (3) - 
18:32 Kalindraz: isso
18:32 Kalindraz: substitue por 2 slider 1/4
18:32 Kalindraz: pra reforçar na sua interpretação
18:32 Kalindraz: pq aqui 01:21:074 - 
18:32 Kalindraz: é um drop
18:32 Kalindraz: e nao fica mto bem esse slider 1/2
18:33 Kalindraz: pelo menos ao meu ver
18:34 Marianna: ah sim
18:34 Marianna: pronto
18:34 Kalindraz: well isso 01:25:949 (2) -  está como jump stream para isso 01:26:043 (3) -  mas isso 01:35:699 (2,3) -  nao?? 
18:35 Marianna: são ocasiões totalmente diferentes
18:35 Kalindraz: bem, apenas citei xd
18:35 Kalindraz: continuando
18:35 Kalindraz: 01:46:387 (2,3,5) -  pode fixar o padrao de distancia oo só mover um pouquinho pra cima o 2
18:36 Marianna: 01:25:949 (2) - aqui é uma parte super forte pra se por em stack a outro 01:35:699 - mas aqui é uma parte, comparada com aquela, simples demais pra deixar um jump
18:36 Marianna: ]]okay fix
18:37 Kalindraz: well final bem feito 
18:37 Kalindraz: 2 ritmos distintos
18:37 Kalindraz: super bacana
18:37 Marianna: *-* omg
18:37 Kalindraz: well ultimo ponto
18:38 Kalindraz: 02:18:637 (1) -  bem, só buffa mais um pouco a distancia pra mostrar mais enfasê conforme voce fez 
18:38 Kalindraz: fora isso está mto bom
18:38 Marianna: okay :3
18:39 Marianna: obg mesmo
18:39 Marianna: tava precisando
18:39 Kalindraz: relaxa
18:39 Kalindraz: como disse
18:39 Kalindraz: voce mapeia mto bem
18:39 Kalindraz: eu nunca vou desgostar algo seu
18:39 Kalindraz: ahaha
18:41 Marianna: kkkk posta isso lá*-*
18:41 Kalindraz: okay
<3
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StanDaMan809
41 posts
Joined April 2016
StanDaMan809
Marianna's Extra
  1. 00:29:887 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - The expression here throws me off, as there is no emphatical difference between the notes in the song.
  2. 00:33:824 (5) - imo the map accentuates the song much better if this note weren't here- it also is more consistent with the rhythm you established.
  3. 00:35:137 (4) - This slider shape looks out of place, imo it should just be 00:34:762 (3) - rotated.
  4. 00:40:012 (1,2,3) - I personally find that the map plays so much more smoothly if you were to change the notes to look more like this: (also make sure 00:41:699 (2) - overlaps the slider end of 00:41:699 (2) - if you go through with this change).
  5. 00:43:012 (1,2,3,1,2) - Same concept here. This plays much smoother:
  6. 00:52:012 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - imo the spacing here should be higher, as this part is super dramatic.
  7. 01:19:012 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  8. 01:31:293 (2,3) - It's very hard to reach 3 from 2, you should change some angling.
    I wouldn't be much good at modding the wub parts, sorry!

I'll likely come back for another diff some day, good luck!
squirrelpascals
982 posts
Joined March 2015
squirrelpascals
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8266626 first try meme

heyo its an m4m

General
• Audio is 128 kbps, maybe find a 192 file if you can

• drum-hitclap has a transient (loudest part of the hitfile) that is pretty delayed here. Would be optimal if you were able to modify this so that the transient plays earlier

xtreme collap
• 00:14:137 (2,3,4) - If anything I think the larger spacing should be from 00:14:230 (3,4) - because of the stronger note here

• 00:21:074 (1) -

• 01:08:230 (1) - This is a pretty fast spinner, I feel like this overpaces the transition from said spinner to 01:09:449 (1,2,3,4) - it would be better to use a slider as an alternative or smth. Plus, I feel like more exaggeration than a spinner end can be placed at 01:09:262 -

• 01:09:824 (4,1) - Pretty small spacing for a strong note here

• 01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - Optional, but maybe you can do something here to signify the increasing volume of these notes? This would follow the music more closely

01:20:887 (4,5,6,7) - Why are these notes less spaced than 01:19:012 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - ? Again stronger notes

• 01:22:012 (2) - nc on thsi downbeat/kiai note

• 01:31:762 (1,2) - The bass on slider 2 sounds a lot more intense than the one on slider 1, can you do something here to show that?

• 01:33:074 (1,2) - Currently reads as a 1/2 jump due to 01:32:887 (2,1) -

• 01:41:793 (1,1) - Decrease the spacing here, spacing from a circle like this reads as a 1/2 jump because you usually do thing like 01:37:293 (2,1) - Plus, this current pacing during the pattern at 01:41:793 (1,1,1) - is confusing

• 01:57:262 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I see what you're going for here but these look prett cluttered together atm. You can try a ctrl+h or some other rotation on 01:57:262 (5,6,7,8) -

• 02:17:137 (3) - Dont think the way you mapped this reverse slider here is very applicable because of how it skips over the stronger beat at 02:17:887 - Try something like this or this (someting clickable on 4)

Marianna Extra
i heckin love ur sliders bro

• 00:19:293 (2,3,4,1) - stream shape here can be a little more defined imo

• 00:30:824 (4,1) - Why is there such exaggeration and spacing here but none at 00:33:824 (5,1) - ?

• 00:35:512 (1,2,1,2) - These jumps don't really look applicable here. While the vocal exaggeration is okay there seems to be no notes on 00:35:699 (2,2) -

• 00:50:512 (1) - Skips over a note you usually map at 00:50:887 -

• 01:05:512 - Why the sv change here... in the middle of a slider..? Same thing at 01:06:262 - and also 01:08:230 -

• 01:12:918 (4,1) - Durastic spacing difference from 01:15:918 (4,1) - and 01:18:918 (4,1) -

• 01:23:793 (1) - 01:30:637 (1) - 01:36:637 (1) - remove nc, since you nc every 2 beats

• 01:39:262 (5) - add one here

• 01:43:012 (1,2) - fix blanket with 2?

• 01:52:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - These streams sound heavily overmapped, even the notes afterward are debatable but expecially these, because its the white noise that's fading in here.

• 02:02:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - If your going for symmetry here, tilt 02:03:074 (3) - by like -3 degrees

gl!
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

squirrelpascals wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8266626 first try meme

heyo its an m4m

General
• Audio is 128 kbps, maybe find a 192 file if you can ill tr to think something about it

• drum-hitclap has a transient (loudest part of the hitfile) that is pretty delayed here. Would be optimal if you were able to modify this so that the transient plays earliercutted it a bit, should b better now

xtreme collap
• 00:14:137 (2,3,4) - If anything I think the larger spacing should be from 00:14:230 (3,4) - because of the stronger note here done

• 00:21:074 (1) -

• 01:08:230 (1) - This is a pretty fast spinner, I feel like this overpaces the transition from said spinner to 01:09:449 (1,2,3,4) - it would be better to use a slider as an alternative or smth. Plus, I feel like more exaggeration than a spinner end can be placed at 01:09:262 - idk about this, i tried using slider before, but such long slider just feels really out of place in this diff, i think spinner works a bit better here

• 01:09:824 (4,1) - Pretty small spacing for a strong note here slightly increase spacing from on those and changed shape of (4)

• 01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - 01:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - Optional, but maybe you can do something here to signify the increasing volume of these notes? This would follow the music more closely First and last one is fine imo, theres notable spacing changes on those volume rases, and in the second pattern volume changing more gradually and i dont think spacing changes are necessary here

01:20:887 (4,5,6,7) - Why are these notes less spaced than 01:19:012 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - ? Again stronger notes yea I agree on it, ill change it a bit later tho coz its like a transition to sammish part and he will need to readjust some sliders so its doesnt looks like crap

• 01:22:012 (2) - nc on thsi downbeat/kiai note whoops i probably messed up it sometime, fixed

• 01:57:262 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - I see what you're going for here but these look prett cluttered together atm. You can try a ctrl+h or some other rotation on 01:57:262 (5,6,7,8) - slightly changed angle of first 4 notes and changed position, should be a bit better now

• 02:17:137 (3) - Dont think the way you mapped this reverse slider here is very applicable because of how it skips over the stronger beat at 02:17:887 - Try something like this or this (someting clickable on 4)I wanted to focus more on vocal in this part plus note on this white tick feels kinda forced to me, ill keep it as it is for now

gl!
Thanks for mod c:

edit: fixed spacing issue at 01:19:012 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) -
Last edited by Sulfur , edited 1 time in total.
sammish
119 posts
Joined May 2014
sammish

squirrelpascals wrote:

xtreme collap
01:20:887 (4,5,6,7) - Why are these notes less spaced than 01:19:012 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - ? Again stronger notes
uh yea I can change whatever after ur done with it @sulfur

• 01:31:762 (1,2) - The bass on slider 2 sounds a lot more intense than the one on slider 1, can you do something here to show that?
made it a linear increase in sv and made 2 have a red anchor

• 01:33:074 (1,2) - Currently reads as a 1/2 jump due to 01:32:887 (2,1) -
I personally disagree; It doesn't come up as an issue when testing and I feel that the player wouldn't have too much problems reading it

• 01:41:793 (1,1) - Decrease the spacing here, spacing from a circle like this reads as a 1/2 jump because you usually do thing like 01:37:293 (2,1) - Plus, this current pacing during the pattern at 01:41:793 (1,1,1) - is confusing
changed to match previous patterns

thank u squirrel
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VINXIS
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VINXIS
http://puu.sh/wbQ43/ad544c37e6.txt Mod
hohol454
255 posts
Joined November 2012
hohol454
NM

Lince's Hard
00:02:512 (1,2,3) - This is really easy to missread as a 3/4 slider because of the high 1/4 spacing betwee 1,2,3 and the fact that 1x SV 3/4 is the exact same length as 0.75x 4/4 one. I really suggest lowering the 1/4 spacing a bit.
00:08:512 - why does the hitsounding get 20% quieter when the song is louder?
00:10:762 (6,1) - blanket isn't perfect
00:17:887 (2,3,1) - slightly lower spacing would remove the overlap at 00:17:887 (2,2) -
00:22:762 (1) - touches the health bar on default skin
00:46:012 (1,2,3) - i think the blankets can be very slightly improved
00:51:637 (2,1) - pretty bad blanket
00:57:824 (5,1) - super small blanket mistake
01:02:512 (1,2) - i would increase spacing slightly, looks like 1/1 but it's 3/2
01:12:824 (1) - silence the spinner
01:18:449 - could have a note like this here since the 1/4 has started already
01:21:449 (1,2) - something like this instead for to capture the wub sound http://puu.sh/wbKYp/321c3b59f0.PNG
kinda dissappointed that there aren't that many SV changes in kiai. I know that it's just hard diff but 01:22:762 (3) - doesn't feel great without speedup
01:30:449 (2,1) - fix blanket
02:14:137 (1) - making it 1/2 beat shorter is better imo for a hard
02:19:012 (1,1) - blanket could be slightly improved
Finshie's Insane
00:13:762 (1,2) - the spacing increase is really sudden and it's hard to read as 1/4 with the overlap
00:28:012 (1,2,3) - i see the stacking of 3 on 1 but the bad blanket it makes with 2 is really noticable. You could break DS slightly and move 2 so it works better or maybe just make a different pattern
00:39:824 (5,6) - 6 is overmapped, should be like this to follow the music
01:08:137 (1,1) - manually stack them for better readibility?
01:20:699 (4) - could be split into a kick slider and circle with same spacing as 01:20:137 (1,2,3) -
01:27:074 (1) - why is the SV 2.5x? it's unnecessary, random and confusing since the rest of kiai is without SV changes. You don't even do it here 01:39:074 (1) -
02:10:574 (2,3) - kinda random, you don't use this kind of overlap in the rest of the map. this would be more consistent with the rest

How is this only 4.1* lol
nice wubs
Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie

hohol454 wrote:

NM

Finshie's Insane
00:13:762 (1,2) - the spacing increase is really sudden and it's hard to read as 1/4 with the overlap i guess ur right. moved it to the sliderend.
00:28:012 (1,2,3) - i see the stacking of 3 on 1 but the bad blanket it makes with 2 is really noticable. You could break DS slightly and move 2 so it works better or maybe just make a different pattern easy fix. no need to change pattersn
00:39:824 (5,6) - 6 is overmapped, should be like this to follow the music applied
01:08:137 (1,1) - manually stack them for better readibility? i dont think its that hard to read? ill keep it for now.
01:20:699 (4) - could be split into a kick slider and circle with same spacing as 01:20:137 (1,2,3) - applied. was thinking what i could do for this one. i guess that works
01:27:074 (1) - why is the SV 2.5x? it's unnecessary, random and confusing since the rest of kiai is without SV changes. You don't even do it here 01:39:074 (1) -
i forgot to put one at 01:39:074 - and the reason why i made it 2.5sv is its too short
02:10:574 (2,3) - kinda random, you don't use this kind of overlap in the rest of the map. this would be more consistent with the rest did something else

How is this only 4.1* lol same thought. idk how.
nice wubs
thanks for mod!

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flake
713 posts
Joined December 2015
flake
Hello, normal mod from the queue.

Easy


[00:04:762 - and 00:07:762 - ] Consider mapping this part

00:34:762 (2,4) - seems to be touching by a small margin

00:40:012 - follows drums, [00:43:012 -, 00:46:012 - , and 00:49:012 - ] follows, vocals? Not really sure but, consider making it consistent all through out the verse.

00:58:012 (1,2,3,4) - seems confusing for new players. Consider giving 00:59:512 (4) - nc :D

Consider CTRL+G on 00:59:512 (4,5) - , since it's more distinguishable and playable

[01:10:012 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:13:012 (1,2,3,4) -] follows the Piano. Though for 01:17:512 (3,4) - , I'm not really sure why it's designed as the same one as awhilago. Is there a particular reason to it? Or maybe I'm just bad at listening to things

Marianna's Extra


00:39:637 (1) - I'm not sure what this one's following :?

[01:12:262 (4) -, 01:15:262 (4) - and 01:18:262 (4) -] New combo, since it's following a new instrument

01:21:449 (1) - unclear what it's following, If you're following the vocals then it should end somewhere 01:21:637 - , or if it follows the sound on 01:21:637 - , then, it's obvious you're going to put it there. Though, that's not what you did; It's either you want to emphasize both sounds on one slider, or there's another reason.

[01:22:012 - onwards] nice

01:46:387 (2,5) - seem to be touching each other, distance them a bit

Most of the other maps I didn't mod seem okay, there weren't really any problems regarding timing and consistency. Good luck! :D
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

Lince Cosmico wrote:

hohol454 wrote:

NM

Lince's Hard
00:02:512 (1,2,3) - This is really easy to missread as a 3/4 slider because of the high 1/4 spacing betwee 1,2,3 and the fact that 1x SV 3/4 is the exact same length as 0.75x 4/4 one. I really suggest lowering the 1/4 spacing a bit. kk
00:08:512 - why does the hitsounding get 20% quieter when the song is louder? lol i took sv lines from hardest diff, fixed, now the 70%
chaanged into 50% and the 50% chaanged into 60% (at the begining)
00:10:762 (6,1) - blanket isn't perfect hail our führer (fixed)
00:17:887 (2,3,1) - slightly lower spacing would remove the overlap at 00:17:887 (2,2) - no thanks
00:22:762 (1) - touches the health bar on default skin is that suposed to be a problem? its not even offscreen
00:46:012 (1,2,3) - i think the blankets can be very slightly improved too much slightly, but ok, it isnt even relevant ingame lol
00:51:637 (2,1) - pretty bad blanket fixed
00:57:824 (5,1) - super small blanket mistake ill just.. ignore this one
01:02:512 (1,2) - i would increase spacing slightly, looks like 1/1 but it's 3/2 i actually think its enough spacing
01:12:824 (1) - silence the spinner i didnt silence it in purpose, i like how it sounds when it taps before the circle
01:18:449 - could have a note like this here since the 1/4 has started already it would be really confusing to tap for the player, also take note that this is a hard diff so players are less experienced with that type of speed changes
01:21:449 (1,2) - something like this instead for to capture the wub sound http://puu.sh/wbKYp/321c3b59f0.PNG
kinda dissappointed that there aren't that many SV changes in kiai. I know that it's just hard diff but 01:22:762 (3) - doesn't feel great without speedup first of all, i prefer my rhythm on the first thing, for the kiaai thing, it has more sv chaanges but it was weird af trust me, also as you saiid,
its a hard, i even had to remove sv lines from the begining (these will dissapear in this next update)
01:30:449 (2,1) - fix blanket irrelevant, but i tried
02:14:137 (1) - making it 1/2 beat shorter is better imo for a hard difference between notes is predictable even for hard diff players immo
02:19:012 (1,1) - blanket could be slightly improved ill ignore this one since i already changed all of that pattern. wait for it on the next update.
nice wubs
ewewe thanks for mod c:
Update: http://puu.sh/wcSKw/69a2aa9545.osu

Flake wrote:

Hello, normal mod from the queue.

Easy


00:04:762 - and 00:07:762 - Consider mapping this part ill keep it as it is for now, i kinda wanted to make this intro a bit less dense,
and imo doig it through ignoring few of those sounds is not to bad of an idea. I guess ill ask for more opinions on those tho

00:34:762 (2,4) - seems to be touching by a small margin fixed

00:40:012 - follows drums, [00:43:012 -, 00:46:012 - , and 00:49:012 - ] follows, vocals? Not really sure but, consider making it consistent all through out the verse. changed stuff at 00:40:012 - to note into reverse like those onwards

00:58:012 (1,2,3,4) - seems confusing for new players. Consider giving 00:59:512 (4) - nc :D it would ruin structure of NCs in this diff (every two downbeats)
Consider CTRL+G on 00:59:512 (4,5) - , since it's more distinguishable and playable Good point, done

[01:10:012 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:13:012 (1,2,3,4) -] follows the Piano. Though for 01:17:512 (3,4) - , I'm not really sure why it's designed as the same one as awhilago. Is there a particular reason to it? Or maybe I'm just bad at listening to things 01:17:887 (4) - is a reverse coz theres this reverb sound starting at 01:18:262 -


Most of the other maps I didn't mod seem okay, there weren't really any problems regarding timing and consistency. Good luck! :D Thanks for mod c:
edit: formatting
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tokiko
215 posts
Joined June 2013
tokiko
irc mod for pandahero's diff
log
2017-06-04 22:28 tokiko: 00:33:637 (4) - повыше бы поднять. на 292 204 куда-нибудь
2017-06-04 22:28 tokiko: 00:41:137 (2,3,4) - а тут визуальный спейсинг красивым сделать можно!
2017-06-04 22:29 tokiko: 01:09:262 (1) - хвост слайдера на пару пикселей повыше, чтобы прямо в реверс входил
2017-06-04 22:30 tokiko: 01:10:012 (3) - а это ноту можно хоть в другой конец карты
2017-06-04 22:30 PandaHero: нельзя
2017-06-04 22:30 PandaHero: у меня адвансед, а не экстра
2017-06-04 22:30 tokiko: ну просто подальше поставить можно
2017-06-04 22:30 PandaHero: играется херовенько
2017-06-04 22:31 tokiko: ну что-то не так близко было! а то совсем уж
2017-06-04 22:31 PandaHero: 00:41:137 (2,3,4) - а чем тебе тут спейсинг не нравится?
2017-06-04 22:31 tokiko: 01:10:012 (3) - неровно между (2,3) лежит
2017-06-04 22:31 PandaHero: "войди в мой ревёрс"
2017-06-04 22:32 PandaHero: сделала ровнее
2017-06-04 22:32 tokiko: 01:59:137 (2,1) - бланкет ХА
2017-06-04 22:32 tokiko: =)
2017-06-04 22:32 tokiko: ладно, не надо
2017-06-04 22:33 tokiko: а так нормас, но лучше последний слайдер на пару градусов повернуть
2017-06-04 22:34 PandaHero: это который?
2017-06-04 22:34 tokiko: подкова последняя
2017-06-04 22:34 PandaHero: ой, я ж даже хсы не послушала
2017-06-04 22:34 PandaHero: а, самый последний
2017-06-04 22:35 PandaHero: клэпы плохие
2017-06-04 22:35 tokiko: не вслушивался особо
2017-06-04 22:36 PandaHero: там не такие звонкие надо
Marianna
1,392 posts
Joined July 2015
Marianna
Sorry @StanDaMan809 nothing was really useful

squirrelpascals wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8266626 first try meme

heyo its an m4m


Marianna Extra
i heckin love ur sliders bro

• 00:19:293 (2,3,4,1) - stream shape here can be a little more defined imo like what?

• 00:30:824 (4,1) - Why is there such exaggeration and spacing here but none at 00:33:824 (5,1) - ? fixed

• 00:35:512 (1,2,1,2) - These jumps don't really look applicable here. While the vocal exaggeration is okay there seems to be no notes on 00:35:699 (2,2) - for me its good

• 00:50:512 (1) - Skips over a note you usually map at 00:50:887 - 00:49:012 (1,1) - I'm following the vocal and the consistency

• 01:05:512 - Why the sv change here... in the middle of a slider..? Same thing at 01:06:262 - and also 01:08:230 - Does it really matter?
xD

• 01:12:918 (4,1) - Durastic spacing difference from 01:15:918 (4,1) - and 01:18:918 (4,1) - This is playable

• 01:23:793 (1) - 01:30:637 (1) - 01:36:637 (1) - remove nc, since you nc every 2 beats fixed

• 01:39:262 (5) - add one here i like this way

• 01:43:012 (1,2) - fix blanket with 2? fixed

• 01:52:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4) - These streams sound heavily overmapped, even the notes afterward are debatable but expecially these, because its the white noise that's fading in here. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/128645

• 02:02:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - If your going for symmetry here, tilt 02:03:074 (3) - by like -3 degrees fixed

gl!

Flake wrote:

Hello, normal mod from the queue.


Marianna's Extra


00:39:637 (1) - I'm not sure what this one's following :? The harp

[01:12:262 (4) -, 01:15:262 (4) - and 01:18:262 (4) -] New combo, since it's following a new instrument okay

01:21:449 (1) - unclear what it's following, If you're following the vocals then it should end somewhere 01:21:637 - , or if it follows the sound on 01:21:637 - , then, it's obvious you're going to put it there. Though, that's not what you did; It's either you want to emphasize both sounds on one slider, or there's another reason. fix ?

[01:22:012 - onwards] nice thanks!

01:46:387 (2,5) - seem to be touching each other, distance them a bit fixed

Most of the other maps I didn't mod seem okay, there weren't really any problems regarding timing and consistency. Good luck! :D
Hey
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Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
IRC regarding spread issues
logs
14:38 Su1fu7: Hello, do you have like 5 minutes of free time to take a quick look at 3 diffs of my map? Not really a mod req or anything like this, im just not sure about difficulty gaps between those diffs so im trying to get someone experienced to take a look at it
14:41 MrSergio: link
14:42 *Su1fu7 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1299913 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia]
14:42 Su1fu7: advanced, hard and insane diffs
14:43 MrSergio: just by star rating alone I can probably say the Hard is too hard
14:43 MrSergio: let me see...
14:48 MrSergio: this one ends too intensily
14:50 MrSergio: this one has the kiai time a bit too intense compared to the rest of the map instead
14:51 MrSergio: it a sort of diff spike, which the song calls for, but not this exaggerated
14:51 MrSergio: the overall feeling is the one of an Insane diff, but the kiai time is like Insane+
14:51 Su1fu7: i guess it can be fixed be reducing sv al little bit
14:52 MrSergio: this is not a Hard diff
14:52 MrSergio: it's a Light Insane
14:54 MrSergio: definitely not a Hard
14:54 Su1fu7: is itt because of overlaps in intro?
14:54 MrSergio: for many things:
14:54 MrSergio: really close to each other streams of 5 notes + triplets
14:55 MrSergio: clicking at 1/4 is not easy
14:55 MrSergio: even more when he adds jump combined with triplets or streams
14:55 MrSergio: he does that in the intro and in the outro
14:55 MrSergio: spacing was used too freely to be interpreted properly yet
14:56 MrSergio: too many jumps in the kiai time felt like totally an Insane for how varied they were
14:56 MrSergio: jumps are fine on Hard diffs, but not as a decoration to make things interesting
14:56 MrSergio: they should be used when stricly necessary to add extra emphasis
14:56 MrSergio: lastly, a combination of the two things above:
14:56 MrSergio: I saw some triplets after a slider
14:57 MrSergio: where the second and third beat were stacked after a jump from the slider
14:57 MrSergio: that is totally a technique used for Insane or even just Extra diffs
14:57 MrSergio: that is not readable or at least I don't consider it appropriate for a Hard
14:57 MrSergio: it requires control on tapping (since 1/4 are not easy to tap) + aim control (because there is a jump)
14:58 MrSergio: that's definitelt too much to ask from players of this range
14:59 Su1fu7: well, thats a lot of things to fix. hows the diff itself tho? maybe i can rename it to light insane and just add brand new hard diff/slightly buff advanced
14:59 MrSergio: this spacing variations, zzzz
14:59 MrSergio: they are kinda ugly to see, and some of them might also be misleading
15:00 MrSergio: Advanced diffs should have a high dominance of constant DS, which this diff rarely presents
15:01 MrSergio: this section, this is what I meant
15:01 MrSergio: I have to accelerate on the circle then wait for the next slider for no reason
15:01 Su1fu7: got it
15:02 MrSergio: the end has also some other varied spacings
15:03 MrSergio: on lower diffs try to keep the rhythm instead of switching between different rhythms
15:03 MrSergio: those 2 short sliders there are not in the rhythm you used at the start of the combo
15:03 MrSergio: basically, 6 should have been longer, to match the violin you used since the start of the combo
15:04 MrSergio: again, that short slider
15:04 MrSergio: comes in for no reason
15:05 MrSergio: this part could have been focused more on those high pitched sounds instead of keeping a boring 1/1 rhythm
15:06 Su1fu7: hmm
15:06 MrSergio: kiai part is pretty messy in the song and I understand your struggle to match the music, but the map in that part felt a bit too... outside of the song
15:07 MrSergio: more sliders and less circles might help you define a better rhythm there
15:07 MrSergio: as of now, it's just 1/1 clicking, which tells me nothing
15:08 MrSergio: those first 2 combos
15:08 MrSergio: the last slider could have been longer
15:08 MrSergio: because of the violin
15:08 Su1fu7: i was a bit scared about mapping kiai with a bunch of sliders coz few bns told be before something like "try to avoid a lot of sliders, they are much harder than single notes for beginners"
15:09 Su1fu7: maybe i can think something about it
15:09 Su1fu7: ill change those sliders in first to combos in easy diff
15:09 MrSergio: the slow part should have less clicks, so maybe add sliders instead of those 2 circles
15:10 Su1fu7: make sense, ill change those
15:10 MrSergio: well... sliders as a concept are harder for beginners, but at the same time they are more lenient
15:10 MrSergio: if used properly they can better give the impression of the "rhythm" you are following
15:10 MrSergio: just circles at 1/1 are surely not expressing much there right now
15:12 MrSergio: try to avoid where possible those movements where the slider goes back and forth and the next circle is again in the opposite direction
15:12 MrSergio: visually, that circle is really close to the slider, so it might be misleading
15:12 MrSergio: try to make sliders point towards the next object
15:12 Su1fu7: hmm alright, ill change those
15:13 MrSergio: those last circles could fit way better using sliders instead too
15:13 MrSergio: for the same reason I mentioned before
15:13 Su1fu7: got it
15:14 Su1fu7: Thanks for help, i guess i have a lot of things to fix now c:
15:14 MrSergio: overall the spread is fine, but Advanced and Hard are a no-go imo
15:14 MrSergio: I mean..
15:14 MrSergio: if the Hard was really a Hard, you wouldn't need that Advanced
15:14 MrSergio: what happened is that the Hard became too hard and consequently the Advanced tried to scale that down
15:14 Su1fu7: ill probably make hard diff myself at this point and maybe keep this one as light insane
15:15 MrSergio: but the fewer beats you have, the harder it becomes to map it appropriately
15:15 MrSergio: and that's what happened on the Advanced
15:15 MrSergio: since that diff too is a bit too hard in regards of reading and consistency
15:16 MrSergio: if spacing is made consistent and less varied everywhere you could keep that diff as a decent Advanced io
15:16 MrSergio: iomo*
15:16 MrSergio: imo* zzz
15:16 MrSergio: the upper diffs are quite nice
15:16 MrSergio: concept-wise
15:16 Su1fu7: :o
15:16 Su1fu7: Thank you
15:17 Su1fu7: And thanks for help once againg c:
15:17 MrSergio: keep it up, you're not too far away from a rank
15:17 Su1fu7: could you mapybe post log on forum
15:17 MrSergio: ah, sure
Vacuous
157 posts
Joined July 2016
Vacuous
Ticket
Marianna
00:25:105 (1) - pls make this end on a white tick
00:35:137 (4) - I don't get why this is sharp angled, the sound no different from the previous slider and it'll look better curved
01:21:637 (1) - I think this would play better if it was ctrl+g'd
01:26:512 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is pretty clustered and hard to read imo
01:29:043 (2) - I dislike the fact that the tail has a sound of equal importance yet in the rest of the map tails are mapped to sounds of lesser importance
01:29:512 (1) - I'd move the first notch up by 1 unit to make the curve replicate 01:29:043 (2) -
01:52:762 (9) - nc pls
01:54:262 (9) - ^
02:09:074 (1,1) - I think this 1/4 jump is a bit too much for 4.25*
02:10:574 (1,1) - ^ (but 02:10:012 (1) - should be fine since slider leniency)
02:13:012 (1,1,1) - ^
02:18:637 (1) - I think this nc is disorienting since it implies that there's a different rhythm (e.g it's 1/2 instead of 1/4 like the previous notes) but it's not
Collab
01:05:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - why is this mapped differently than 01:08:137 (3,1) - when it's basically the same thing
01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - is inconsistent with 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - since in 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - the tails face away from the next note, while in 01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - they don't per se
01:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - kinda the same thing
02:11:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - and 02:14:137 (3,1) - are the same as 01:05:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - and 01:08:137 (3,1) -
basically it, good luck!!!!!!!
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

kawaiikitsun wrote:

Ticket
Collab
01:05:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - why is this mapped differently than 01:08:137 (3,1) - when it's basically the same thing its mapped...
not to vocal?
01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - is inconsistent with 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - since in 01:15:262 (1,2,3,4) - the tails face away from the next note, while in 01:12:262 (1,2,3,4) - they don't per se those three are different and goes from most comfortable movement in the first set of 1/4s to the less comfortable movement in the last set to make a smooth transition to kiai section, in my opinion its work pretty well
01:18:262 (1,2,3,4) - kinda the same thing
02:11:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - and 02:14:137 (3,1) - are the same as 01:05:137 (3,1,2,3,4) - and 01:08:137 (3,1) - same as above
basically it, good luck!!!!!!! thanks for mod c:
NOIN
52 posts
Joined February 2015
NOIN
m4m thin, first proper mod so dont judge

[Fishie's Insane]
  1. 00:04:012 (1,2,3) - Make the sliders align better, seems a bit off imo.
  2. 02:20:137 (1) - I would remove the nc here, though I guess it's there because the slider is 2 times slower than the others.
[Marianna's Extra]
  1. 00:03:262 (6,7) - I don't think the sv should change here, but it's not a big deal so don't change it if you don't want to.
  2. 00:06:262 (6,7) - ^
  3. 00:09:262 (6,7) - ^
  4. 00:10:762 (6,7) - ^
  5. 00:12:262 (6,7) - ^
  6. 00:04:762 (3) - This would look better if it was just a simple curved slider.
  7. 00:11:512 (1) - The second red anchor should be a white one, also move it a bit to the right.
  8. 00:15:074 (3,1) - Stack these or increase the spacing.
  9. 00:19:012 (1,2,3,4) - Try to make the stream cleaner.
  10. 00:19:574 (1,3) - The sliders are't aligned perfectly.
  11. 00:21:637 (5,1,2,3,4) - This rhythm would be better > https://puu.sh/whnyW/86f729f632.jpg
  12. 00:22:762 (1) - The first curve could be cleaner.
  13. 00:30:824 (4,1) - Make the spacing smaller.
  14. 00:35:137 (4) - I think a curved slider would fit better.
  15. 00:40:012 (1,2) - blanket
  16. 01:04:012 (1,1,1) - The idea here is cool but the execution could be better.
  17. 01:12:918 (4,1) - Unnecessarily big 1/4 gap, make it smaller.
  18. 01:13:574 (3,5) - Fix overlap
  19. 01:25:949 (2,3) - I think the spacing is too big here.
  20. 01:52:012 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The sound you are following here is almost nonexistent, try remapping the part without streams.
  21. 02:10:012 (1) - Forgot a 5% volume change here.
[Collab Extreme]
  1. 00:31:012 (1,2) - Change the rhythm to this unless you are not following the vocals > https://puu.sh/whopj/d27d6c4e6b.jpg
  2. 00:37:012 (1,2) - ^
  3. 00:32:512 (1) - I don't see a reason for this to be an extended slider.
  4. 00:54:637 (3) - Maybe make this curve a bit less, looks a bit weird imo.
  5. 01:09:449 (1,2,3,4) - Try remapping this, it looks really clustered.
  6. 01:20:137 (3,4,5,6,1) - This should be a simple stream because it sounds a lot different from 01:20:699 (2,3,4)
  7. 01:35:043 (5,1) - This spacing seems a bit too high.
  8. 01:41:793 (1) - I don't think this nc is necessary.
Good luck.
Last edited by NOIN , edited 1 time in total.
Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie

non-one wrote:

m4m thin, first proper mod so dont judge

[Fishie's Insane]
  1. 00:04:012 (1,2,3) - Make the sliders align better, seems a bit off imo. should be fixed now. Also changed the anchor slider to straight one.
  2. 02:20:137 (1) - I would remove the nc here, though I guess it's there because the slider is 2 times slower than the others. exactly. Also extended the slider to where it exactly fades.
Good luck.
Thanks for mod!

Update
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Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

non-one wrote:

m4m thin, first proper mod so dont judge
[Collab Extreme]
  1. 00:31:012 (1,2) - Change the rhythm to this unless you are not following the vocals > https://puu.sh/whopj/d27d6c4e6b.jpg
  2. 00:37:012 (1,2) - ^ those two is fine, its mapped not to vocal
  3. 00:32:512 (1) - I don't see a reason for this to be an extended slider. u write, changed to 1/2
  4. 00:54:637 (3) - Maybe make this curve a bit less, looks a bit weird imo. sure
  5. 01:09:449 (1,2,3,4) - Try remapping this, it looks really clustered. stacked 2 notes with next 1/4 , shud b bettr now
  6. 01:20:137 (3,4,5,6,1) - This should be a simple stream because it sounds a lot different from 01:20:699 (2,3,4) yea
Good luck. thanks for mod
Shmiklak
Elite Storyboarder
3,218 posts
Joined January 2015
Shmiklak
Myosotis is better tbh
-Sylvari
402 posts
Joined October 2013
-Sylvari
Hello, It's mod from my queue.

Finshie's Insane
00:38:512 (3) - Make a wave from this slider. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335171
00:58:574 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335186
01:35:324 (3) - Blank this circle to end of slider
01:36:074 (3) - ^ Same
01:46:762 (2) - Much better flow. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335205

Marianna's Extra
00:25:105 (1) - Spinner to end of the beat.
Great Diff
Nothing More To Mod

Collab Extreme
00:04:575 (2,3) - Closer to next slider
00:25:387 - Maybe insert Break here?
01:33:637 (1) - Ctrl+G here.
01:58:574 (2) - Much better flow: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335298

Good Luck!
sammish
119 posts
Joined May 2014
sammish

non-one wrote:

[Collab Extreme]
  1. 01:35:043 (5,1) - This spacing seems a bit too high. tweaked slightly but it plays fine in tests so I think I'll keep it relatively the same
  2. 01:41:793 (1) - I don't think this nc is necessary. I agree! fixed other nc inconsistencies accordingly

Manteith wrote:

01:33:637 (1) - Ctrl+G here. plays alot more jarringly, and goes against what I was trying to do with this

tq for mods~
code
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Artist:M2U feat. Guriri
ArtistUnicode:M2U feat. Guriri
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Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

Manteith wrote:

Hello, It's mod from my queue.

Collab Extreme
00:04:575 (2,3) - Closer to next slider spacing is higher here to give more emphasis on 00:04:762 (1) -
00:25:387 - Maybe insert Break here? it feels really awkard, and hp is low enough to not fail here even with hr, id rather avoid it
01:58:574 (2) - Much better flow: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335298 this way 01:59:137 (3) - have way less emphasis, ill keep it as it is

Good Luck!
Thanks for mod c:

Shmiklak wrote:

Myosotis is better tbh
Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie

Manteith wrote:

Hello, It's mod from my queue.

Finshie's Insane
00:38:512 (3) - Make a wave from this slider. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335171 ok
00:58:574 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335186 nty
01:35:324 (3) - Blank this circle to end of slider
01:36:074 (3) - ^ Same you mean to stack properly? fixed both
01:46:762 (2) - Much better flow. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8335205 been using that flow so idk why ill change it there

Good Luck!
thanks for mod!
update
osu file format v14

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Mir
osu! Alumni
2,151 posts
Joined July 2016
Mir
hi m4m return here

[Collab Extreme]
- 00:32:512 (1,2) - Overlap doesn't taste so good since nothing else overlaps this minor :?
- 01:06:262 (3,4) - maybe circles here somewhere since this bass is quite noticeable but isn't really showed off
- 01:08:230 (1) - not a fan of this spinner ending on the start of a wub :(
- 01:18:262 (1) - why is this one different from the other 1/4 sliders (pointing in another direction), the other patterns also had them all pointing one direction so
- 01:19:574 (2) - feels underemphasized compared to 01:19:012 (1,2) -
- 01:23:793 (1,2) - maybe make 2 a slider cuz it's the same sound as 1
- 01:24:636 (3,4) - aa sweet grown but no change in slider shape or flow to emphasize :(
- 01:26:512 (1,1) - idk about this, seems like a reading hazard take care
- 01:38:512 (1,2) - flow change here would be nice to emphasize the different wubs coming in
- 01:39:074 (1) - this was a buzz slider before wasn't it
- 01:45:262 (1) - feels a bit underwhelming, maybe 1/8 instead of 1/4 due to bpm
- 01:52:012 (1,2,3,4) - 3 different shapes in the same combo :? maybe make 4 also sharp?
- 02:11:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - do consistency 01:05:512 (1,2,3,4) -
- 02:20:230 (1) - hmm slider maybe instead cuz vocal sounds very smooth and so much movement from spinning seems a bit unfitting imo maybe end spinner at 02:21:449 - since the vocal ends there if you don't do a slider

[Marianna's Extra]
- 00:03:637 (7,1) - 1/10 blanket TbH
- 00:14:324 (3) - 1/4 slider may work cuz it's a wub sound
- 00:35:699 (2,2) - i would make the second 2 closer since the sounds don't actually increase in intensity, maybe like: http://i.imgur.com/wOQtKis.png and fix the overlap with 00:35:512 (1,1,1) - to be a consistent distance
- 00:50:512 (1) - hear me out; maybe you can make the slider bend on the snare like http://i.imgur.com/c9yv24I.png so at least there's a little bit of movement instead of ignoring it entirely
- 01:13:574 (3,5) - ow
- 01:15:543 (4,1) - this might play a bit rough due to the awkward angle change for a calm-ish section, try something like http://i.imgur.com/5ju3wor.png maybe and save the harsher streamjumps for the kiai
- 01:45:262 (1) - i think this would be cooler extended to the red/blue tick since the slider ends way before the sound ends as it is and it may help in reading (but that's minor)
- 01:57:355 - 01:57:543 - skipping a stream possibility? after you did 01:55:387 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - that's a weird decision
- 02:18:449 (6,1) - has more noticeable notes so this imo should be the triple not 02:18:074 (3,4,5) -
- maybe end spinner at 02:21:449 - since the vocal ends there?

[Finshie's Insane]
- 00:38:512 (3) - NC? o.o seems like you suddenly changed your nc patterning as 00:31:012 (1,1,1) - are all on downbeats but then at 00:46:012 (1,1) - you go back to 1 downbeat per nc and then 00:49:012 (1,3) - you don't just.. check it xD
- 00:50:512 (3) - ow.. hmm check what i said about marianna's extra they also skipped the snare but in a way that can be fixed to not ignore it completely
- 01:23:793 (2,3) - same maybe sliders since they're the same sound
- 01:24:637 (3,4) - a this lack of emphasis is a bit jarring cuz they're the same sounds, different from the other sounds, but they don't stand out and both sounds have different objects assigned to them
- 01:25:574 (3,4) - pro stack
- 01:46:012 (1,2) - a little close visually? maybe move 2 a bit further away
- 02:05:512 (4,5) - this slider shape inconsistency due to the blanketing of 02:06:074 (5,6) - makes me hurt a bit
- 02:20:137 (1) - since this is a slider you could end it at 02:21:449 - for vocal

[Hard]
- 01:04:012 (2,3,4) - is a lot harder to play than 01:07:012 (1,2,3) - due to having to follow the sliders + flow from tail -> head so maybe make the latter sliders as well
- 01:23:793 (2) - the reverse should be on the red if anything since wub is there no?

I think I'll stop here I suppose. :)

Good luck~
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur

Mir wrote:

hi m4m return here

[Collab Extreme]
- 00:32:512 (1,2) - Overlap doesn't taste so good since nothing else overlaps this minor :?
- 01:06:262 (3,4) - maybe circles here somewhere since this bass is quite noticeable but isn't really showed off
- 01:08:230 (1) - not a fan of this spinner ending on the start of a wub :(
- 01:18:262 (1) - why is this one different from the other 1/4 sliders (pointing in another direction), the other patterns also had them all pointing one direction so
- 01:19:574 (2) - feels underemphasized compared to 01:19:012 (1,2) -
- 01:45:262 (1) - feels a bit underwhelming, maybe 1/8 instead of 1/4 due to bpm
- 01:52:012 (1,2,3,4) - 3 different shapes in the same combo :? maybe make 4 also sharp?
- 02:11:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - do consistency 01:05:512 (1,2,3,4) -
- 02:20:230 (1) - hmm slider maybe instead cuz vocal sounds very smooth and so much movement from spinning seems a bit unfitting imo maybe end spinner at 02:21:449 - since the vocal ends there if you don't do a slider

[Hard]
- 01:04:012 (2,3,4) - is a lot harder to play than 01:07:012 (1,2,3) - due to having to follow the sliders + flow from tail -> head so maybe make the latter sliders as well
- 01:23:793 (2) - the reverse should be on the red if anything since wub is there no?

I think I'll stop here I suppose. :)

Good luck~ Fixed all, thanks for mod c:
Electoz
1,886 posts
Joined May 2015
Electoz
We did an IRC mod, I basically modded all of the creator's diff zz
chatlog
22:01 Su1fu7: Hello, is there a way to get a mod from you?
22:03 Electoz: mm I'm kinda free atm
22:03 Electoz: I guess I can take a quick look rn if you want
22:04 Su1fu7: that would be pretty cool
22:04 *Su1fu7 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1299913 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia]
22:07 Electoz: prolly gonna take a while until I point things out
22:07 Electoz: so ye gimme a few mins
22:11 Su1fu7: alright, thank you. apparantely i have to go now to fix some irl stuff, brb 10-20mins
22:14 Electoz: poke me when you're back I guess
22:32 Su1fu7: back
22:32 Su1fu7: sorry that was sudden
22:33 Electoz: so
22:33 Electoz: which diff first
22:33 Electoz: only ones that you made ofc
22:33 Su1fu7: lest do highest one
22:33 Electoz: not gonna mod kiai cuz
22:33 Electoz: I can't play + not your part
22:33 Electoz: so mentioning here isn't help much
22:33 Electoz: *doesn't
22:34 Su1fu7: alright
22:35 Electoz: 00:07:761 (4) - should be a slider
22:35 Electoz: not sure if anyone pointed out this already
22:35 Electoz: cuz
22:35 Su1fu7: 1/2 or 1/4?
22:35 Electoz: you used slider and made them clickable on strong sounds
22:35 Electoz: up to you
22:35 Electoz: like
22:35 Electoz: I could suggest here and there
22:35 Electoz: but I prolly won't suggest like literal everything unless necessary
22:36 Electoz: so you can be more creative with what I suggested
22:36 Su1fu7: :o
22:36 Electoz: 00:07:949 (5,6) - is optional, you can map them or not, up to you
22:36 Electoz: like
22:36 Su1fu7: i guess i do 1/2 revers here
22:36 Electoz: yeah that might work
22:36 Electoz: you could map them if you want
22:36 Electoz: but
22:37 Electoz: don't make them more prominent than the thing on 00:07:761 -
22:37 Electoz: cuz the sound there is more prominent
22:37 Electoz: also
22:37 Electoz: 00:04:575 (2,3) - not a good gimmick
22:38 Electoz: cuz most streams or whatever 1/4 circles you did in this section
22:38 Electoz: are mapped in the way that
22:39 Electoz: is not really readable if spaced apart, since the rhythm in this section doesn't go drastically different at any point
22:39 Electoz: like
22:39 Electoz: you do gimmicks whenever the song does something weird
22:39 Electoz: or wicked
22:39 Electoz: if you pull out gimmicks randomly then it won't work to its full potential
22:39 Su1fu7: hmm
22:39 Electoz: are you following? cuz I might word it too complicated
22:39 Electoz: I can explain more elaborately if you want me to
22:40 Su1fu7: nah its not
22:40 Electoz: aite
22:40 Su1fu7: tbh i just did it to give that slider a bit more emphasis
22:40 Su1fu7: but i gues i can get away with something simpler
22:40 Electoz: you mean 00:04:762 (1) - ?
22:40 Su1fu7: yep
22:41 Electoz: 00:04:762 - 00:07:761 - these spots have a pretty much similar rhythm
22:41 Electoz: apart from the slightly higher pitch on the second one
22:41 Electoz: so the way you treat both of these
22:41 Electoz: shouldn't be too different
22:41 Su1fu7: make sense
22:42 Electoz: so
22:42 Electoz: 00:08:512 (1) - 
22:42 Electoz: this part
22:42 Su1fu7: tho theres some ticks on second one like quiet drum thing or something that i wanted to point out
22:42 Electoz: m
22:42 Electoz: then you can make it a bit different
22:42 Electoz: but not too much
22:42 Electoz: like I said, in the end it's up to you
22:42 Electoz: this world is basically
22:43 Electoz: modders pointing out suggestions
22:43 Electoz: and mappers implement what they think improves the map
22:43 Electoz: uh where was I again
22:43 Electoz: oh
22:43 Electoz: 00:08:512 (1) - 
22:43 Electoz: just gonna say that the rhythm on this part
22:43 Electoz: is literally repeating itself 3 times
22:44 Electoz: 00:08:512 (1) - 00:10:012 (1) - 00:11:512 (1) - 
22:44 Electoz: the pitch goes higher each time
22:44 Electoz: so would be nice if your mapping can reflect that
22:44 Electoz: in a more obvious way
22:45 Su1fu7: you mean like incease spacing of those 5note streams?
22:45 Electoz: up to you
22:45 Electoz: there are many ways
22:45 Electoz: to reflect the song
22:45 Electoz: increasing the spacings like you said
22:45 Electoz: could work
22:45 Electoz: some people could reflect that aesthetics
22:45 Electoz: making slider shapes more aggressive each time
22:45 Electoz: etc
22:45 Electoz: so on
22:45 Su1fu7: i tries do something with 00:12:262 (6,7) - so they are like becoming easier to play
22:45 Electoz: easier?
22:45 Su1fu7: ill think something about those
22:46 Su1fu7: i mean like 00:09:262 (6,7) - is pretty uncomfortable movement
22:47 Su1fu7: i guess i tidnt work too well coz last 2 is pretty much the same
22:47 Electoz: mm yeah didn't work too well
22:47 Electoz: 00:09:262 (6,7) - is uncomfortable yes
22:48 Electoz: but I don't see why 00:10:762 (6,7) - should be more comfortable when the pitch is going higher
22:48 Electoz: you can make movements more uncomfortable each time if you want to
22:48 Electoz: just giving out ideas
22:49 Su1fu7: hmm idk it just felt like it should be more comfortable each time idk really how to explain it
22:50 Electoz: then up to you
22:50 Electoz: like
22:50 Su1fu7: but i guess i rework those with spacing changes
22:50 Electoz: it doesn't matter
22:50 Electoz: if
22:50 Electoz: comfortable
22:50 Electoz: or uncomfortable
22:50 Electoz: is correct
22:50 Electoz: cuz there are no "correct" or "right" to these things
22:50 Electoz: totally subjective, depends on the mapper
22:50 Electoz: the point is that
22:50 Electoz: you should have your own way of reflecting the song
22:51 Electoz: as long as it's commonly understandable by people then it shouldn't be a problem
22:52 Electoz: 00:16:387 (1) - 00:22:387 (3) - inconsistent NCs?
22:52 Electoz: 00:13:762 (1,4,1) - also aesthetics looks really cramped cuz 00:14:324 (4) - 
22:52 Electoz: not sure if it's intentional but could move 00:14:137 (2,3,4) - up a bit for a better visual spacing
22:52 Su1fu7: i nced those for nc changes but idk those changes are not too big maybe i can remove them
22:53 Electoz: no I mean
22:53 Electoz: they're on the same rhythm aren't they?
22:53 Electoz: but you NC'd them differently
22:53 Su1fu7: oh
22:54 Su1fu7: removed nc from first one
22:54 Su1fu7: actually no other way around is probably better
22:55 Electoz: I would just swap NC 00:16:387 (1,2) - 
22:55 Electoz: but up to you I guess
22:56 Electoz: 00:19:012 (1) - reverse is prolly not a good idea
22:56 Electoz: like
22:56 Electoz: the sounds on 00:17:512 (1) - are a lot weaker than 00:19:012 (1) - 
22:56 Electoz: so you shouldn't map them in the same way
22:57 Su1fu7: hmm yea thats actually work better
22:57 Electoz: 00:22:387 (3,1) - emphasis is not
22:57 Electoz: really there
22:57 Electoz: would be a lot better if
22:57 Electoz: like
22:57 Electoz: 00:14:887 (2,3,3,1) - 
22:57 Electoz: wait
22:57 Electoz: wrong timestamp
22:57 Electoz: 00:14:887 (2,3) - 
22:58 Electoz: would be better if you can create the same movement with the timestamp above
22:58 Electoz: if you apply what I said then 00:16:387 (1,2) - can be taken care of too
22:58 Electoz: not really enough spacing for emphasis atm
23:01 Su1fu7: damn
23:01 Su1fu7: sorry
23:01 Su1fu7: internet randomly went off
23:01 Electoz: where were you left off?
23:01 Su1fu7: so 00:14:887 (2,3) -
23:02 Su1fu7: 00:14:887 (2,3) - after you linked those
23:02 Electoz: oh
23:03 Electoz: was gonna say that
23:03 Electoz: would be better if you can create the same movement with that timestamp
23:03 Electoz: for emphasis
23:03 Electoz: on 00:22:762 (1) -  
23:05 Su1fu7: did something similar: stacked 00:22:762 (1) - sliderend with 00:23:762 (1) -
23:06 Electoz: 00:30:262 (3,4,5) - not sure what are these following
23:06 Electoz: if you're following instruments, then Ctrl+G'ing rhythm on 00:30:262 (3,4,5) - 
23:06 Electoz: will result a 99% chance of getting a better rhythm
23:07 Su1fu7: yea that works better
23:07 Electoz: if it's for vocals then 00:30:637 - 00:30:824 - shouldn't be mapped in the first place
23:08 Electoz: like
23:08 Electoz: if you're asking my opinion
23:08 Electoz: I would say these 1/2 sliders
23:08 Electoz: in this section
23:08 Electoz: are overdone
23:08 Electoz: I mean, sure they're following vocal
23:08 Electoz: or whatever
23:08 Electoz: but their rhythms are too dense
23:08 Electoz: for a calm section
23:09 Electoz: should rethink on how to prioritize the rhythms
23:09 Electoz: try to refer on how you did it on other diffs
23:09 Electoz: and do it in the same way
23:09 Su1fu7: i kinda expected something like this tbh, especially about 00:35:512 (1,2,3,4) - . surpised that noone pointed those before
23:09 Su1fu7: yea ill think something about those
23:10 Electoz: 00:52:949 (3) - actually why this thing
23:10 Electoz: is a circle
23:10 Electoz: in the entire section
23:11 Electoz: you don't even do it at 01:58:012 (1,2) - 
23:11 Electoz: which literally has a same rhythm
23:12 Electoz: wait
23:12 Electoz: not only circle
23:12 Electoz: I just noticed 00:55:949 (3) - 
23:12 Electoz: zz
23:13 Su1fu7: i tried to make rhythm somewhat more intresting when song support it idk
23:14 Electoz: when the same rhythm is happening on two places
23:14 Electoz: you should treat them the same
23:14 Electoz: ok maybe not same
23:14 Electoz: but not too differently
23:14 Electoz: with that aside
23:14 Electoz: the attempt on sliders in this section
23:14 Electoz: is
23:14 Electoz: ok
23:14 Electoz: but it resulted in an underwhelming gameplay
23:15 Electoz: stuff like
23:15 Electoz: 01:04:012 (1,2,3) - 01:07:012 (1,2,3) - are not really intense enough
23:15 Electoz: for the highest diff
23:15 Electoz: so you have to do something, if you want to match the intensity while keeping your slider concept
23:16 Electoz: my ideas now would probably forcing some 1/4 or extended sliders
23:16 Electoz: by 1/4 sliders I mean using them instead of circles
23:16 Su1fu7: 01:06:074 (2,3,4) -  like here?
23:16 Electoz: not quite
23:16 Electoz: hmmm
23:16 Electoz: like
23:17 Electoz: okay so
23:17 Electoz: 01:02:512 (1) - 
23:17 Electoz: this thing
23:17 Electoz: is 1/1
23:17 Electoz: my suggestion would be, "for a better intensity, you should split this into a 3/4+1/4 slider"
23:17 Electoz: that kind of thing
23:17 Electoz: but ofc that will be a bit overmapped
23:18 Su1fu7: yea kinda
23:18 Electoz: so my point is that there should be some sort of way
23:18 Electoz: to increase the intensity, cuz currently it's not enough
23:19 Electoz: due to the idea you're trying to use
23:19 Electoz: what I suggested is probably like
23:19 Electoz: one of the few possible ideas, that could compensate the intensity
23:19 Electoz: which you might, or might not apply
23:20 Su1fu7: ill probably do not 1/4 sliders but just a note into slider on blue tick instead of sliders like 01:03:074 (2) -
23:21 Electoz: mm
23:21 Su1fu7: and i guess ill do it onl for downbeats
23:21 Electoz: actually you can look what mr.finshie did
23:21 Electoz: in his diff
23:21 Electoz: like
23:22 Electoz: 01:04:574 (2,3) - 01:07:574 (2,1) - etc
23:22 Electoz: by what he did I mean angles used + movement
23:22 Electoz: using sharper angles for a stronger emphasis
23:23 Su1fu7: also do i keep 1/2 sliderspam in first calm section if i buff more intense part or nah?
23:23 Su1fu7: what do you think?
23:24 Electoz: logically that would solve the problem, yes
23:24 Electoz: but that's the hard way to solve that problem
23:25 Electoz: cuz
23:25 Electoz: you prolly can't buff the song too much
23:25 Electoz: if the song doesn't really call for it
23:25 Su1fu7: yea i guess
23:25 Electoz: and the map will become bad if you ended up exaggerating what the song provides
23:25 Electoz: so you have to uh
23:25 Electoz: find a good balance
23:25 Electoz: if you want to do that
23:26 Electoz: 01:46:012 - can I ask on what rhythm you're trying to follow?
23:26 Electoz: on this part
23:27 Su1fu7: those kicks or whatever name of that sound is
23:27 Su1fu7: not vocal
23:28 Su1fu7: 01:47:887 (2,3) -  actually i messed up spacing on those
23:28 Su1fu7: 3 should be spaced a bit more
23:29 Su1fu7: rip hexagrid
23:30 Electoz: 01:53:137 - I assume the finish isn't intentional?
23:30 Electoz: since it sounds out of place
23:30 Su1fu7: whoops
23:30 Su1fu7: yea it shouldnt be here
23:31 Electoz: do you have
23:31 Electoz: any concept
23:31 Electoz: on the slider shapes
23:31 Electoz: with these 4 sliders thing
23:32 Su1fu7: 01:52:012 (1) - down beats with red node
23:32 Su1fu7: everything else curved or straight
23:33 Su1fu7: actually i messed upshape of 01:53:137 (4) - while applying mod today
23:33 Su1fu7: it should be just a straight 5degree slider
23:33 Electoz: did you have the same red node concept with 01:46:012 (1,2,3,4) - 01:47:512 (1,2,3,4) - ?
23:34 Su1fu7: nope but i guess i shoudve done it for consistency and stuff
23:34 Electoz: ye
23:36 Su1fu7: fixed those
23:36 Electoz: nothing else major I think?
23:36 Electoz: should be it for this diff
23:36 Electoz: my biggest concern would probably the rhythm thing
23:36 Electoz: in the calm part
23:36 Electoz: and the section that I pointed out that it's underwhelming
23:37 Electoz: I mean
23:37 Electoz: sections
23:37 Electoz: since it's happening one more time near the end
23:37 Su1fu7: yea i didnt touch that yet coz its probably would take too much time, i do it after we done with other diffs
23:37 Electoz: ok uhh so
23:37 Electoz: which one's next
23:38 Su1fu7: lets do hard i guess
23:38 Electoz: gonna ask for the sake of my convenience
23:38 Electoz: is the entire diff distance snapped?
23:38 Su1fu7: nope
23:38 Electoz: if yes then I don't have to bother figuring out the spacings
23:39 Electoz: oh
23:39 Electoz: alright then
23:39 Electoz: 00:14:512 (1,2) - too undermapped compared to 00:20:512 (1,2) - 
23:40 Electoz: this kind of rhythm 00:14:512 (1,2) - 
23:40 Electoz: is probably what I would expect
23:40 Electoz: in easy
23:40 Electoz: or normal at most
23:41 Su1fu7: i guess i change 00:14:512 (1) -  to 1/1 into circle
23:41 Su1fu7: same with 00:15:637 (2) -
23:41 Electoz: 00:23:512 (1) - you have some whatever green lines with volumes in other diffs
23:41 Electoz: but this one isn't
23:42 Electoz: pointing out for minor consistency sake in case you care
23:42 Su1fu7: oh ill change it
23:42 Su1fu7: yea i do dont want it to be like my first ranked map
23:46 Electoz: 01:17:887 (2,4) - 1 pixel overlap
23:46 Electoz: 01:20:137 (5,6,1) - some 1/4 rhythms would be nice
23:46 Electoz: current is somewhat ok due to the way stack is used
23:47 Su1fu7: i blame stacking rounding
23:47 Su1fu7: ill add note at 01:20:418 -
23:48 Electoz: 01:26:324 (5,1,2) - doesn't play really comfortable
23:48 Electoz: cuz you forced a linear flow
23:49 Electoz: 01:34:012 (1) - sv change in a middle of the slider
23:49 Electoz: for some reason
23:50 Electoz: 01:57:637 - so prominent that it shouldn't be ignored
23:50 Su1fu7: that one probably copied in by hitsound copier idk
23:50 Su1fu7: removed it
23:51 Su1fu7: two 1/2s maybe?
23:52 Electoz: might work
23:52 Electoz: 01:04:012 (2) - 02:10:012 (1) - inconsistent NCs
23:53 Su1fu7: fixed
23:53 Electoz: kinda bugged me a bit where this part 00:40:012 (1) - is not NC'd in the same way as others
23:53 Electoz: but I guess that's still ok
23:54 Electoz: hard is probably fine nothing much worth mentioning
23:54 Su1fu7: fixed everything but 01:26:512 (1,2) -
23:54 Su1fu7: idk what to do with those
23:55 Electoz: what do you mean
23:55 Electoz: with that timestamp
23:55 Electoz: oh
23:55 Electoz: I get it now
23:55 Electoz: you mean
23:55 Electoz: everything I mentioned
23:56 Su1fu7: yep
23:56 Su1fu7: only that thing with linear flow
23:56 Su1fu7: i guess i can stack them
23:56 Electoz: well you have to move things around a bit
23:56 Electoz: to fix that one
23:56 Su1fu7: that feels kinda weird too tho
23:56 Electoz: but prolly worth it
23:56 Electoz: like
23:56 Electoz: we normally
23:56 Electoz: don't use linear flows
23:56 Electoz: unless the song calls for it
23:57 Electoz: cuz generally the linear movement is uncomfortable to play
23:57 Electoz: so
23:57 Su1fu7: ill fix those later i guess
23:57 Electoz: what next
23:57 Electoz: normal?
23:57 Su1fu7: yea lets do normal
23:59 Electoz: 00:38:512 (3,1) - doesn't look aesthetically appealing
00:00 Su1fu7: i kinda surprised that theres not many thing in hard diff, i finished it only yesterday and it oretty much didnt got any feedback
00:00 Electoz: could ctrl+J 00:38:512 (3) - and move 00:39:637 (4,1) - up a bit
00:00 Electoz: like I said
00:00 Electoz: it's just a quick look
00:00 Electoz: so if I didn't find anything major
00:00 Electoz: then ye
00:00 Electoz: should be fine
00:01 Su1fu7: fixed those
00:01 Electoz: 00:46:012 (1,2) - might want to reconsider the placement
00:01 Electoz: s
00:01 Electoz: cuz atm it causes an uncomfortable movement between these sliders
00:01 Electoz: which pretty sure that's not your intention
00:01 Electoz: since that doesn't happen anywhere else, at least in this section
00:03 Su1fu7: yeap fixed those too
00:03 Electoz: 01:14:512 (1) - your NC fucked up
00:03 Electoz: all the way till the end
00:03 Electoz: you NC'd on a wrong measure
00:03 Electoz: I mean
00:03 Electoz: measures
00:04 Su1fu7: damn
00:04 Su1fu7: 01:13:012 (4) -  should be nc instead of 01:14:512 (1) -  right?
00:04 Electoz: ye
00:07 Su1fu7: fixed
00:08 Electoz: too lazy to figure out the spread
00:08 Electoz: but you should take a look at that too
00:08 Electoz: your normal has like really less 1/2 rhythms on how normal would generally has
00:08 Electoz: but you have adv diff so idk
00:08 Electoz: didn't check that diff out
00:09 Su1fu7: sergio said it should be fine after we nerf advanced
00:09 Su1fu7: and we did so its probably okay
00:09 *Electoz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1309254 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia [Easy]]
00:10 Electoz: 00:32:887 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - suddenly a denser rhythm than other stuff in the same section
00:11 Su1fu7: 00:34:762 (2,3) -  would it work if i change those to 1/1?
00:11 Electoz: no
00:11 Electoz: point is
00:11 Electoz: it should be less than 1/1
00:11 Electoz: you have to ignore some stuff there
00:11 Electoz: in order to be consistent with other stuff
00:11 Su1fu7: oh
00:12 Su1fu7: then 00:34:012 (1,2,3) - to 2/1 i guess
00:13 Electoz: 01:52:012 (1,2) - shouldn't be pulled off in easy
00:13 Electoz: like, techincally you can
00:13 Electoz: but this kind of stuff in easy would be considered as gimmicks
00:14 Su1fu7: oh you mean note in other direction than sliderhead?
00:15 Electoz: putting a circle
00:15 Electoz: behind the reverse arrow
00:15 *Electoz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1315612 M2U feat. Guriri - Magnolia [Hard]]
00:15 Electoz: 01:07:012 (6,7) - 02:13:012 (5,6) - the rhythms are inconsistent in case you care
Sulfur
278 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Sulfur
Fixed pretty much everything what Electoz pointed out. The only thing left is adding 1/4 at those relatively calm parts, and after some very precise thinking/testing how it gonna work and asking few other opinion i decided to keep it as it is, it just fits a bit better and follow the song more closely
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Finshie
829 posts
Joined October 2012
Finshie

Mir wrote:

hi m4m return here

[Finshie's Insane]
- 00:38:512 (3) - NC? o.o seems like you suddenly changed your nc patterning as 00:31:012 (1,1,1) - are all on downbeats but then at 00:46:012 (1,1) - you go back to 1 downbeat per nc and then 00:49:012 (1,3) - you don't just.. check it xD fixed all the NCs.
- 00:50:512 (3) - ow.. hmm check what i said about marianna's extra they also skipped the snare but in a way that can be fixed to not ignore it completely could work on her diff maybe. ill just cut the slider then add a note after it and it should still be fine.
- 01:23:793 (2,3) - same maybe sliders since they're the same sound yea but it a bit shorter so id rather stick with a note.
- 01:24:637 (3,4) - a this lack of emphasis is a bit jarring cuz they're the same sounds, different from the other sounds, but they don't stand out and both sounds have different objects assigned to them i kinda see 01:30:637 (3) - as the same as 01:30:262 (1,2) - so i made them equally and for 01:30:824 (4) - is when the sound kinda dies out so i made a small spacing.
- 01:25:574 (3,4) - pro stack
- 01:46:012 (1,2) - a little close visually? maybe move 2 a bit further away fixed
- 02:05:512 (4,5) - this slider shape inconsistency due to the blanketing of 02:06:074 (5,6) - makes me hurt a bit changed a bit.
- 02:20:137 (1) - since this is a slider you could end it at 02:21:449 - for vocal i think 02:21:637 - is better

Good luck~
thanks for mod!
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sammish
119 posts
Joined May 2014
sammish

Mir wrote:

hi m4m return here

[Collab Extreme]
- 01:23:793 (1,2) - maybe make 2 a slider cuz it's the same sound as 1 I prefer keeping this as a circle since it's quickly cut off by the next sound, so I feel like a short distance is nicer for emphasis
- 01:24:636 (3,4) - aa sweet grown but no change in slider shape or flow to emphasize :( woop I seem wym changed the last slider
- 01:26:512 (1,1) - idk about this, seems like a reading hazard take care ah maybe if issues come up in playtesting, haven't had any so far
- 01:38:512 (1,2) - flow change here would be nice to emphasize the different wubs coming in hmm yea but I want to show the "growing" noise more by keeping same shape with bigger spacing
- 01:39:074 (1) - this was a buzz slider before wasn't it ahh nice try but no actually, it was a kickslider into a star-shaped stream

Good luck~ Thank you for modding! I don't mind following up in irc or discord if you feel I was unjust.
code
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Einja
652 posts
Joined February 2015
Einja
hi you're from my queue

[general]
fishie's insane has widescreen support enabled.

[collab EX]

rip me

00:30:449 (4) - overmap, there's no sound being emphasized here and even if there was, it's such a small sound a slider end/body should just cover it instead.
you also are seemingly mapping to lyrics here, so i don't really see a point in that circle

00:36:262 (3,4) - same here, slider 3 should just cover up all of 4 or just delete slider 4 instead

00:56:512 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - it would be nice if you add some variety into these parts, playing this got a little boring. one example i did was replace a few (2) sliders with a few different patterns. for example, i turned this 01:01:574 (2) - into a circle and 1/2 slider since a violin is also in the background and it gets a tad more interesting to play.

01:19:199 (2,1,2,1,2) - ack i don't really like the nc usage here. if you're following the vocals, remove and add NCs on these notes 01:19:387 (1,2,1) - and rearrange the jumps to make them look nice. it would complement the vocals better imo

[easy]
check aimod, you have some ds issues going on

the first 6 seconds of the map have ds all over the place, please fix that and resnap everything properly. just because aimod doesn't detect it doesn't mean it isn't there.


[normal]
same thing with easy, ds is all over the place, please resnap everything ;w;




all from me, too lazy to mod the rest, sorry :c

good luck!
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