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JBHyperion
Requested in my Interesting Queue

General
  1. Personal preference, but I prefer the way Grapes positioned his spinner at 00:55:578 (1) - since there are a few drum/piano sounds there after the last vocal on 00:54:804 - . At least in the Platter and Rain, 00:55:578 - would be a really nice place to put a dash or even a hyper and give added intensity to the kiai buildup

Cup
  1. 00:00:997 (1,2,1) - 00:05:643 (1,2) - I don't hear any sound on those tails, so maybe you'd be better off ending each 1/2 earlier to follow the vocal
  2. 00:39:320 (1,2,3,4) - 00:41:643 (1,2,3,4) - Quite a lot of continuous 1/2 beats here makes this section quite dense, consider replacing these with some 1/1 repeat sliders to follow the vocal
I really like how you didn't oversimplify things though. The 1/2 spacings are used frequently to fit the melody, but in a way that avoids awkward spacing and still provides leniency due to heavy slider use. Good work!
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Grapes' Salad
  1. 00:03:127 (6,1) - Considering this is an introduction to dashing, I would avoid having the first one of the map be a strong, antiflowing 1/2 dash. Since the vocal is weak, you could remove 00:03:127 (6) - and keep a 3/2 dash here which is much more lenient
  2. 00:06:804 (4,5) - Sharp curvature on these sliders makes it quite easy to droplet miss. A smoother, less curved approach would work better here
  3. 00:08:352 (1,2,3) - Quite high for a non-dash spacing, suggest moving (2) a little closer
  4. 00:10:288 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Ambiguous spacings that confuse the player. Way too early and the music is too soft to start throwing in a bunch of 1/2 dashes, so make these more comfortable to walk please
  5. 00:28:675 (6,1) - Too soft for a 1/2 dash imo, walk would be more fitting
  6. 00:33:127 (3,1) - Could be larger to emphasize the increase in vocal intensity
  7. 00:42:417 (4,1) - This section is kinda light on dashes, one here for the vocal downbeat would be cool
  8. 00:49:385 (5,1) - ^
  9. 00:51:707 (6,1) - Could be larger to emphasize the increase in vocal intensity
  10. 00:57:901 (1,2,3) - Ambiguous spacing, looks walkable but easy to miss droplets. I'd make (2,3) - a clearer dash and (1,2) walkable based on intensity. Applies to 01:02:546 (1,2,3) - and later similar patterns also
  11. 01:06:804 (5,1) - Could be a little larger for more emphasis on the vocal and cymbal
  12. 01:12:610 (4,5,6,1) - Similar spacings, though the first three are much weaker and should be walkable, whereas (6,1) really deserves a dash
  13. 01:18:417 (5,1) - Another ambiguous spacing, try increasing this and reducing the previous spacing for better contrast
  14. 01:20:352 (4,5,1) - 01:22:675 (4,5,1) - ^
Needs some work on spacing emphasis as a lot of distances look very similar and a player won't know if they are meant to be dashes or walks, but the rhythm choices are solid.

Platter
  1. 00:02:159 (4,5,6) - Considering you're following the vocal for the rest of the intro section, it feels weird that you swapped to piano here on (5) and ignored the vocal sound at 00:02:739 - a good solution would be to use a repeat slider and 1/1 slider like you did at 00:06:804 (3,4) - so the vocal is still dominant and easiest to follow
  2. 00:20:739 (3,4) - Ambiguous spacing after 1/2 dash could lead to confusion. I'd increase this so the dash is more clear
  3. 00:23:062 (1,2) - Spacing being a bit too low here creates an uncomfortable flowbreak for me. Perhaps try moving 00:23:449 (2,3,4,5,6) - right a little and rotating to increase this distance
  4. 00:54:417 (1,2) - I'd increase this for better contrast with 00:54:030 (5,1) - and provide more of a buildup into the kiai
  5. 01:04:288 (4,1) - Regular dash feels better here for me since there's instrument only, provides a nice differentiation. Another alternative would be to create antiflow on that to highlight the sharper sound - ex. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8057864
Nothing else to really complain about, this is a nice diff and the 1/6 was used in an interesting way without feeling overdone.

Rain
  1. 00:10:675 (2,3) - Unfitting hyper when you compare the sound intensity to 00:11:256 (3,1) -, so a regular dash would fit better here as you used for 00:12:030 (2,3,1) -
  2. 00:21:901 (1,2,3) - Feel a bit too squashed to walk comfortably, try spacing these out just a little more. Applies to 00:24:223 (1,2,3) - also, something like 00:26:546 (1,2,3) - spacing is a bit nicer to play imo
  3. 00:59:062 (3,4) - For following the vocal phrase, a new object on 00:59:643 - sounds much better, so try a pair of 1/2 repeat sliders or repeat slider and 1/1 slider for the vocal hold (kinda) like you did at 01:08:352 (3,4,5) -
  4. 01:08:739 (4,5) - To be consistent with the above, this vocal here really deserves a stronger spacing
Same as in Platter, nothing really else worth mentioning, this diff flows great for the most part and is just missing a few emphasis balnces.
I'd he happy to recheck this once the Salad has gotten a few more mods. Hope this mod helps, and good luck! (:
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JBHyperion wrote:

Requested in my Interesting Queue

General
  1. Personal preference, but I prefer the way Grapes positioned his spinner at 00:55:578 (1) - since there are a few drum/piano sounds there after the last vocal on 00:54:804 - . At least in the Platter and Rain, 00:55:578 - would be a really nice place to put a dash or even a hyper and give added intensity to the kiai buildup ( Agree, I'll apply change )

Cup
  1. 00:00:997 (1,2,1) - 00:05:643 (1,2) - I don't hear any sound on those tails, so maybe you'd be better off ending each 1/2 earlier to follow the vocal ( K )
  2. 00:39:320 (1,2,3,4) - 00:41:643 (1,2,3,4) - Quite a lot of continuous 1/2 beats here makes this section quite dense, consider replacing these with some 1/1 repeat sliders to follow the vocal
I really like how you didn't oversimplify things though. The 1/2 spacings are used frequently to fit the melody, but in a way that avoids awkward spacing and still provides leniency due to heavy slider use. Good work! ( Thanks, changed two triplets into sliders )
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Grapes' Salad
Needs some work on spacing emphasis as a lot of distances look very similar and a player won't know if they are meant to be dashes or walks, but the rhythm choices are solid. ( firetruck, waiting on a another mod and distances should be fixed)

Platter
  1. 00:02:159 (4,5,6) - Considering you're following the vocal for the rest of the intro section, it feels weird that you swapped to piano here on (5) and ignored the vocal sound at 00:02:739 - a good solution would be to use a repeat slider and 1/1 slider like you did at 00:06:804 (3,4) - so the vocal is still dominant and easiest to follow ( let's see if this works )
  2. 00:20:739 (3,4) - Ambiguous spacing after 1/2 dash could lead to confusion. I'd increase this so the dash is more clear ( Increased )
  3. 00:23:062 (1,2) - Spacing being a bit too low here creates an uncomfortable flowbreak for me. Perhaps try moving 00:23:449 (2,3,4,5,6) - right a little and rotating to increase this distance ( DOne )
  4. 00:54:417 (1,2) - I'd increase this for better contrast with 00:54:030 (5,1) - and provide more of a buildup into the kiai ( Idk but lets see if this works )
  5. 01:04:288 (4,1) - Regular dash feels better here for me since there's instrument only, provides a nice differentiation. Another alternative would be to create antiflow on that to highlight the sharper sound - ex. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8057864 ( OKay )
Nothing else to really complain about, this is a nice diff and the 1/6 was used in an interesting way without feeling overdone. thank you

Rain
  1. 00:10:675 (2,3) - Unfitting hyper when you compare the sound intensity to 00:11:256 (3,1) -, so a regular dash would fit better here as you used for 00:12:030 (2,3,1) - Hopefully new pattern works
  2. 00:21:901 (1,2,3) - Feel a bit too squashed to walk comfortably, try spacing these out just a little more. Applies to 00:24:223 (1,2,3) - also, something like 00:26:546 (1,2,3) - spacing is a bit nicer to play imo ( increased a bit )
  3. 00:59:062 (3,4) - For following the vocal phrase, a new object on 00:59:643 - sounds much better, so try a pair of 1/2 repeat sliders or repeat slider and 1/1 slider for the vocal hold (kinda) like you did at 01:08:352 (3,4,5) - ( Hopefully that plays better)
  4. 01:08:739 (4,5) - To be consistent with the above, this vocal here really deserves a stronger spacing ( DOne )
Same as in Platter, nothing really else worth mentioning, this diff flows great for the most part and is just missing a few emphasis balnces.
I'd he happy to recheck this once the Salad has gotten a few more mods. Hope this mod helps, and good luck! (:
All i have left is for Sc4 to mod and have Grapes apply anf you're clear for recheck
wonjae

JBHyperion wrote:

Grapes' Salad
  1. 00:03:127 (6,1) - Considering this is an introduction to dashing, I would avoid having the first one of the map be a strong, antiflowing 1/2 dash. Since the vocal is weak, you could remove 00:03:127 (6) - and keep a 3/2 dash here which is much more lenient ok
  2. 00:06:804 (4,5) - Sharp curvature on these sliders makes it quite easy to droplet miss. A smoother, less curved approach would work better here curved 5 more.
  3. 00:08:352 (1,2,3) - Quite high for a non-dash spacing, suggest moving (2) a little closer ok
  4. 00:10:288 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Ambiguous spacings that confuse the player. Way too early and the music is too soft to start throwing in a bunch of 1/2 dashes, so make these more comfortable to walk please made the spacing more consistant but i gave up some emphasis on rhythm to do it
  5. 00:28:675 (6,1) - Too soft for a 1/2 dash imo, walk would be more fitting ok
  6. 00:33:127 (3,1) - Could be larger to emphasize the increase in vocal intensity ok
  7. 00:42:417 (4,1) - This section is kinda light on dashes, one here for the vocal downbeat would be cool
  8. 00:49:385 (5,1) - ^
  9. 00:51:707 (6,1) - Could be larger to emphasize the increase in vocal intensity
  10. 00:57:901 (1,2,3) - Ambiguous spacing, looks walkable but easy to miss droplets. I'd make (2,3) - a clearer dash and (1,2) walkable based on intensity. Applies to 01:02:546 (1,2,3) - and later similar patterns also
  11. 01:06:804 (5,1) - Could be a little larger for more emphasis on the vocal and cymbal
  12. 01:12:610 (4,5,6,1) - Similar spacings, though the first three are much weaker and should be walkable, whereas (6,1) really deserves a dash
  13. 01:18:417 (5,1) - Another ambiguous spacing, try increasing this and reducing the previous spacing for better contrast
  14. 01:20:352 (4,5,1) - 01:22:675 (4,5,1) - ^
Needs some work on spacing emphasis as a lot of distances look very similar and a player won't know if they are meant to be dashes or walks, but the rhythm choices are solid.messed with some spacing but idk.
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Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
applied
Xinnoh
since jbh pointed out that salad needed a bit of fixing, i'll go over stuff

salad
Decrease spacing, these are kinda edgy for walking, but are easy with tap dash.
00:24:223 (1,2) - 00:28:868 (1,2) - 00:32:352 (2,3) - 00:48:030 (2,3) - 00:48:610 (4,5) - 00:49:965 (2,3) - 00:52:675 (2,3) - 01:20:352 (4) -
00:35:836 (1,2) - normally fine, but there's a slightly tricky pattern after, so reduce
00:39:320 (4,5) - tiny bit
01:06:030 (3,4) - unsure if dash or walk
01:13:385 (6,1) - ^

Increase spacing, it's not clear it's a dash or when walking, the catcher can go too far
00:18:417 (4,5) -

00:07:385 (5,6) - Unsure if it's meant to be dash or walk. If you move whole pattern of 00:07:965 (6,1,2,3,4) - right you could potentially add a dash at 00:09:901 (4,1) -
00:27:707 (5) - If you want, you could redo this stream with slider to stream + 1.3x slider velocity C shaped slider. Makes a perfect curve, here's what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/dzoc6OM.jpg (optional)

00:57:901 (1) - to fix weird slider droplets, use a high SV and make it shaped like half of a square

no kudosu
wonjae
I want to die.
Sc4v4ng3r
Sorry for late mod ;-;

[General]
  1. Is it just me or the hitnormals are too quiet to hear? I would increase the volume of the hitnormal file because I feel that it is getting overpowered by other sounds in the song.
Skipping salad for now cause I don't see a reply on sinnoh's mod

[Cup]
  1. 00:05:643 (1,2) - Like what JBH said in his mod, I can't hear any clear beat landing on the tails currently. Would end these sliders 1/2 beats earlier to follow the vocals.
  2. 00:59:062 (3) - To be honest the repeat of this slider doesn't follow anything in particular; there are no strong sounds that are noticeable that lands on this tick, so following it feels quite weird. I would rather use a 3/2 slider like 01:00:223 (1) - so that the vocal on 00:59:643 - can be emphasized instead. In fact it looks like you are focusing more on the vocals so this should work better for consistency. Same goes for 01:03:707 (3) - and 01:08:352 (3) - .
  3. Other than that though, nice and clean Cup.
[Platter]
  1. 00:52:675 (2,3,4) - Is this an intended double dash? (3) on its own doesn't really feel like a strong vocal compared to (4), as (4) is a downbeat with more 'stress' into it. So I would just place a dash on (4) and remove the dash on (3).
  2. Pretty much what I wanted to say was sniped by JBH so everything looks cool here.
[Rain]
  1. 00:11:449 (1,2) - Kinda puts me off that when 00:10:675 (2) - the piano landing on the repeat of this slider wasn't a hyper, but this(with the same pitch of piano) has a hyper. For fixing I suggest you to separate 00:10:675 (2) - this into circle+1/2 slider, then making a dash between them(remove dash at 00:11:256 (3) - because its piano pitch is basically the same as the other ones), then making a dash instead of hyper between 00:11:449 (1,2) - .
  2. 00:14:933 (1,2) - and 00:16:094 (1,2) - The vocal at 00:17:256 (1,2) - which have basically the same pitch and intensity had a dash on it, so not having it on both of them here doesn't really make sense and it goes off consistency. Would add dashes between the mentioned notes.
  3. 00:54:804 (2,1) - Pretty sure JBH mentioned this too but like what you did in Platter, it would be better if (2) was made to be a slider then extended to somewhere like 00:55:578 - , or if extra objects were added until 00:55:578 - , as there are still drums and piano present after its current position. It just feels off that this is the only difficulty that doesn't have a similar effect like the others.
  4. 01:03:707 (1,2,3) - I don't really see this double dash justified as comparing the sound's intensity of (2) and (3) aren't the same((3) is more stronger with a vocal and snare landing on it), so I rather would just make a dash towards (3) only, removing the dash to (2).
  5. 01:07:191 (1,2) - It looks like you've been adding dashes to similar vocals like this one at 00:57:901 (1,2) - and 01:02:546 (1,2) - so some consistency here would be welcome - add a dash.
  6. But nice rain nontheless, difficulty flows out really smoothly :)
Call me back, seriously a nice set lol
wonjae

Sinnoh wrote:

since jbh pointed out that salad needed a bit of fixing, i'll go over stuff

salad
Decrease spacing, these are kinda edgy for walking, but are easy with tap dash.
00:24:223 (1,2) - 00:28:868 (1,2) - 00:32:352 (2,3) - 00:48:030 (2,3) - 00:48:610 (4,5) - 00:49:965 (2,3) - 00:52:675 (2,3) - 01:20:352 (4) -
00:35:836 (1,2) - normally fine, but there's a slightly tricky pattern after, so reduce
00:39:320 (4,5) - tiny bit
01:06:030 (3,4) - unsure if dash or walk
01:13:385 (6,1) - ^

Increase spacing, it's not clear it's a dash or when walking, the catcher can go too far
00:18:417 (4,5) -

00:07:385 (5,6) - Unsure if it's meant to be dash or walk. If you move whole pattern of 00:07:965 (6,1,2,3,4) - right you could potentially add a dash at 00:09:901 (4,1) -
00:27:707 (5) - If you want, you could redo this stream with slider to stream + 1.3x slider velocity C shaped slider. Makes a perfect curve, here's what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/dzoc6OM.jpg (optional)

00:57:901 (1) - to fix weird slider droplets, use a high SV and make it shaped like half of a square

no kudosu
applied all but optional cuz im lazy
osu file format v14

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Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
General
Is it just me or the hitnormals are too quiet to hear? I would increase the volume of the hitnormal file because I feel that it is getting overpowered by other sounds in the song. ( I think it's you because they're loud to me, they just match the background really well )

Skipping salad for now cause I don't see a reply on sinnoh's mod ( Grapes is lazy )


Cup
00:05:643 (1,2)- Like what JBH said in his mod, I can't hear any clear beat landing on the tails currently. Would end these sliders 1/2 beats earlier to follow the vocals. ( Firetruck, I forgot those ones, fixed )
00:59:062 (3)- To be honest the repeat of this slider doesn't follow anything in particular; there are no strong sounds that are noticeable that lands on this tick, so following it feels quite weird. I would rather use a 3/2 slider like 01:00:223 (1)- so that the vocal on 00:59:643- can be emphasized instead. In fact it looks like you are focusing more on the vocals so this should work better for consistency. Same goes for 01:03:707 (3)- and 01:08:352 (3)- . ( Fine, makes no difference to me )
Other than that though, nice and clean Cup.


Platter
00:52:675 (2,3,4)- Is this an intended double dash? (3) on its own doesn't really feel like a strong vocal compared to (4), as (4) is a downbeat with more 'stress' into it. So I would just place a dash on (4) and remove the dash on (3). ( Done )
Pretty much what I wanted to say was sniped by JBH so everything looks cool here.


Rain
00:11:449 (1,2)- Kinda puts me off that when 00:10:675 (2)- the piano landing on the repeat of this slider wasn't a hyper, but this(with the same pitch of piano) has a hyper. For fixing I suggest you to separate 00:10:675 (2)- this into circle+1/2 slider, then making a dash between them(remove dash at 00:11:256 (3)- because its piano pitch is basically the same as the other ones), then making a dash instead of hyper between 00:11:449 (1,2)- ( Fixed my own way because I hate how much your suggestion nerfs my map )
00:14:933 (1,2)- and 00:16:094 (1,2)- The vocal at 00:17:256 (1,2)- which have basically the same pitch and intensity had a dash on it, so not having it on both of them here doesn't really make sense and it goes off consistency. Would add dashes between the mentioned notes. ( Hopefully this works better )
00:54:804 (2,1)- Pretty sure JBH mentioned this too but like what you did in Platter, it would be better if (2) was made to be a slider then extended to somewhere like 00:55:578- , or if extra objects were added until 00:55:578- , as there are still drums and piano present after its current position. It just feels off that this is the only difficulty that doesn't have a similar effect like the others. ( Forgot to apply to this diff whoops )
01:03:707 (1,2,3)- I don't really see this double dash justified as comparing the sound's intensity of (2) and (3) aren't the same((3) is more stronger with a vocal and snare landing on it), so I rather would just make a dash towards (3) only, removing the dash to (2). ( Gross, but whatever. I don't like it )
01:07:191 (1,2)- It looks like you've been adding dashes to similar vocals like this one at 00:57:901 (1,2)- and 01:02:546 (1,2)- so some consistency here would be welcome - add a dash. ( Maybe notes will work for dash )
But nice rain nontheless, difficulty flows out really smoothly ( I feel like my Rain got worse tbh )
Applied Grapes changes from Sinnoh Mod and Sc4 mod
Sc4v4ng3r
I'm back and I'm late again aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Grapes' Salad]
  1. Difficulty became a lot more better than the first time I looked at it, this won't be too long bear with me
  2. 00:03:320 (1,2) - Distance here feels slightly too big considering the previous dash was the first in the difficulty, which players might not be fully prepared yet. Would try to reduce it a lil bit so that it plays a lot more linearly.
  3. 00:08:352 (1,2) - Vocal representation is off here imo as the word 'himitsu' has a separate 'feel' between the syllabus 'hi' and 'mi-tsu', so the tail landing on 'mi' doesn't really feel right tbh. I would rather go for circle+repeat slider or circle+slider+circle instead.
  4. 00:13:384 (3) - There's nothing landing on this tick, and even if the hi hat is, your main focus on this section of the song is the piano instead of the hi-hat, so I believe this note should be removed.
  5. 00:19:191 (6) - Would be nice if this was a 1/2 slider to emphasize the toms at 00:19:385 - .
  6. 00:52:675 (2,3) - This distance compared to the other walking distances feel a little bit more further apart than usual, which makes this significantly easier to dash to rather than struggling to read this note to decide whether its a walk or not. Would reduce it.
Call me back once this is applied.
wonjae

Sc4v4ng3r wrote:

I'm back and I'm late again aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Grapes' Salad]
  1. Difficulty became a lot more better than the first time I looked at it, this won't be too long bear with me
  2. 00:03:320 (1,2) - Distance here feels slightly too big considering the previous dash was the first in the difficulty, which players might not be fully prepared yet. Would try to reduce it a lil bit so that it plays a lot more linearly. nerfd
  3. 00:08:352 (1,2) - Vocal representation is off here imo as the word 'himitsu' has a separate 'feel' between the syllabus 'hi' and 'mi-tsu', so the tail landing on 'mi' doesn't really feel right tbh. I would rather go for circle+repeat slider or circle+slider+circle instead.i did repeat + circle as it covers the whole word but ill change it if you dont like it this time also.
  4. 00:13:384 (3) - There's nothing landing on this tick, and even if the hi hat is, your main focus on this section of the song is the piano instead of the hi-hat, so I believe this note should be removed. fair point
  5. 00:19:191 (6) - Would be nice if this was a 1/2 slider to emphasize the toms at 00:19:385 - .ok
  6. 00:52:675 (2,3) - This distance compared to the other walking distances feel a little bit more further apart than usual, which makes this significantly easier to dash to rather than struggling to read this note to decide whether its a walk or not. Would reduce it.reduced a little.
Call me back once this is applied.
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Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
Applied everything
JBHyperion
Hello again! So soon? Oh yes, it's a recheck.

Salad:
  1. 00:09:901 (4,1) - Kinda confusing spacing, walkable with good timing. Perhaps make 00:09:127 (3) - less curved and move (4) to the right, for a clearer ~ 2.0x DS spacing
  2. 00:11:449 (1,2) - 1/2 jump is unexpectedly large here, (2) at x-200 or x-208 feels more comfortable
  3. 00:22:675 (2,3) - Could be made a little bigger for clearer jump
  4. 00:28:868 (1,2) - Missing jump here? Would be consistent with 00:31:191 (1,2) -
  5. 00:35:062 (3,1) - Ambiguous spacing, try making (3) less horizontal to reach a clearer 2.0x DS spacing
  6. 00:42:417 (4,1) - 00:43:965 (4,1) - 00:47:062 (5,1) - etc. ^ Same as above
  7. 01:08:933 (4,5) - Is this an intended 1/2 jump? If so, please increase the distance, it's very possible to walk and could confuse players
  8. 01:24:922 - ^ As above
Make sure your intended dashes are all recognisable as such. As I mentioned, 2.0x DS is a reasonable compromise

Platter:
  1. 01:01:385 (4,1) - Feels a bit small considering the vocal intensity, I tend to overdash this a lot. Try something like a reverse L-shaped slider instead so that you can add more spacing here
Should be all, yo.
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840

JBHyperion wrote:

Hello again! So soon? Oh yes, it's a recheck.

Platter:
  1. 01:01:385 (4,1) - Feels a bit small considering the vocal intensity, I tend to overdash this a lot. Try something like a reverse L-shaped slider instead so that you can add more spacing here Increased distance and lengthened cuvrve
Should be all, yo.
wonjae

JBHyperion wrote:

Hello again! So soon? Oh yes, it's a recheck.

Salad:
  1. 00:09:901 (4,1) - Kinda confusing spacing, walkable with good timing. Perhaps make 00:09:127 (3) - less curved and move (4) to the right, for a clearer ~ 2.0x DS spacing
  2. 00:11:449 (1,2) - 1/2 jump is unexpectedly large here, (2) at x-200 or x-208 feels more comfortable
  3. 00:22:675 (2,3) - Could be made a little bigger for clearer jump
  4. 00:28:868 (1,2) - Missing jump here? Would be consistent with 00:31:191 (1,2) - actually, i intended this not be be a jump as the next time the pattern shows up theres more emphasis on the last note then here. if it really bugs other people/bns then ill make it a dah but for now i want to keep it like this.
  5. 00:35:062 (3,1) - Ambiguous spacing, try making (3) less horizontal to reach a clearer 2.0x DS spacing
  6. 00:42:417 (4,1) - 00:43:965 (4,1) - 00:47:062 (5,1) - etc. ^ Same as above
  7. 01:08:933 (4,5) - Is this an intended 1/2 jump? If so, please increase the distance, it's very possible to walk and could confuse players
  8. 01:24:922 - ^ As above
Make sure your intended dashes are all recognisable as such. As I mentioned, 2.0x DS is a reasonable compromise
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Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
Applied
JBHyperion
Alright, Salad's looking much nicer now so let's get things rolling

Bubbled~
wonjae
OwO
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
When will Sc4 return from the war?
Sc4v4ng3r
I'm always late kms

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  1. Looks cool
[Grapes' Salad]
  1. 00:10:288 (1,2,3,4,1) - The visual representation of these notes makes it feel like there needs to be a small pause after (1) > (2) because of how (2,3,4) looks vertically in comparison to the overall pattern. Would've made them all have the constant distance instead so that the movement is shown to be more lenient.
  2. 00:18:417 (4) - I believe NC goes here?
  3. 00:26:546 (4,1) - Would swap the NC between these notes to follow 00:35:836 (1,2) - (or do the other way around).
[Platter]
  1. 00:59:449 (4) - Clap on the repeat to emphasize on the snares of the song.
  2. 01:09:901 (2,3) - I don't think a dash is required here because all other snares(to give an example, 01:00:804 (2) - ) had no dashes, or was just ignored(for an example, 01:05:256 (2) - ).
[Rain]
  1. 01:12:610 (4) - Remove clap here as there are no snares landing on this tick and since you didn't do it for your other difficulties.
Set should be ready after these fixes, call me back.
wonjae
@sc4

made the spacing on the first point more consistant and fixed nc issues

oboi
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Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
Updated
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840

Sc4v4ng3r wrote:

I'm always late kms You returned!

[General]
  1. Looks cool
[Grapes' Salad]
  1. 00:10:288 (1,2,3,4,1) - The visual representation of these notes makes it feel like there needs to be a small pause after (1) > (2) because of how (2,3,4) looks vertically in comparison to the overall pattern. Would've made them all have the constant distance instead so that the movement is shown to be more lenient.
  2. 00:18:417 (4) - I believe NC goes here?
  3. 00:26:546 (4,1) - Would swap the NC between these notes to follow 00:35:836 (1,2) - (or do the other way around).
[Platter]
  1. 00:59:449 (4) - Clap on the repeat to emphasize on the snares of the song. Done
  2. 01:09:901 (2,3) - I don't think a dash is required here because all other snares(to give an example, 01:00:804 (2) - ) had no dashes, or was just ignored(for an example, 01:05:256 (2) - ). removed Dash
[Rain]
  1. 01:12:610 (4) - Remove clap here as there are no snares landing on this tick and since you didn't do it for your other difficulties. Done
Set should be ready after these fixes, call me back.
Updated with response
Sc4v4ng3r
@Grapes - None of those NC issues are fixed for me in the latest update .-. Check over them again.
wonjae
uhh i did, maybe i put the code in wrong.
osu file format v14

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if it dosent work then i can roseus can just apply them for me
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
it should be applied now, if not i'll apply myself
Sc4v4ng3r
Alrighty everything looks cool here so let's give it a go.

Qualified~
wonjae
Hell yea.

Lets stall out 7 days now
Xinnoh
hi can you dq for the following reasons:
it gya
wonjae

Sinnoh wrote:

hi can you dq for the following reasons:
it gya
Applied, roseus update the map
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840

Paranoid Grapes wrote:

Sinnoh wrote:

hi can you dq for the following reasons:
it gya
Applied, roseus update the map
No change, my style is gay
Trynna
map is pretty good in every aspects over all diffs, great job! but i'd like to drop some feedback here about grapes' diff. Not talking as a pro catch modder, since i'm more like std nowadays

grapes
  1. Actually, it looked like on the first section you were following the vocal, but in a simplified way, which can be clearly recognized by patterns as 00:02:159 (4,5) - or 00:04:481 (3,4) -. Though, at the end of the section you put a reverse that sounds out of place (for the idea used on the section initially, of course). 00:08:352 (1) - this slider follow the vocal accurately, when the others didn't, and it's pretty weird to receive this kind of feedback randomly.
  2. secondly, i'd like to understand why this jump on 00:11:449 (1,2) - is so rough when on the whole section it is pretty simple overall. It looks pretty different when you compare to 00:10:288 (1,2) -, i mean, not that changing spacing is bad, but that much is kinda unexpected for this level and frustrating :(
  3. 00:49:772 (1,2) - these are really unaccurate when it comes to the vocal, it doesn't have some sound on the red tick for sure, and it's pretty eeh to hear when playing. Other diffs used sliders/something else to fit the instrumental instead, but since your diff uses a bit of simplification, i'd recommend a slider till 00:50:159 - and it should be fine. Otherwise, you'd need to put it on a better timing, but isn't really necessary imo.
  4. About the NCs on the kiai, I understand that you've tried to keep emphasis on the vocal, so your choice was to put something close to the downbeats but not exactly on them. But I still think you should do something about it 01:11:836 (3) -. You usually used 2 downbeats per NC section on kiais, though this one uses 3 01:07:191 -. 01:08:933 (4,5) - this section has a vocal pause, such things that you used as basis to your NCing, but still nothing was done here. The places you put the finish should receive more emphasis, so something should be done close to this one 01:11:836 (3) - aswell, but since you used 3 downbeats on the last, here you needed to use 3 again, and having it done wronly is akward imo.
  5. 01:18:417 (5,1) - I don't really think this jump should be a thing. Like, it's even larger than the kiai ones. After the kiai you usually don't expect such a jump like this, and the note itself doesn't have such a sound to receive that emphasis. Though I understand the large spacing was to show people that these two section are splitted and have no relation to each other, but I am still not happy with this. 01:23:062 (5,1) - doesn't look so massive though, and it's pretty the same thing as the kiai anyways.
good luck on ranking! beautiful song tho
wonjae
o shit bois
wonjae

Trynna wrote:

map is pretty good in every aspects over all diffs, great job! but i'd like to drop some feedback here about grapes' diff. Not talking as a pro catch modder, since i'm more like std nowadays

grapes
  1. Actually, it looked like on the first section you were following the vocal, but in a simplified way, which can be clearly recognized by patterns as 00:02:159 (4,5) - or 00:04:481 (3,4) -. Though, at the end of the section you put a reverse that sounds out of place (for the idea used on the section initially, of course). 00:08:352 (1) - this slider follow the vocal accurately, when the others didn't, and it's pretty weird to receive this kind of feedback randomly. i see your point but i think its fine here as the vocalist is starting to say something new and i decided to emphasize it as i think its the most dominant part of the song. also you can def hear vocals during the repeat
  2. secondly, i'd like to understand why this jump on 00:11:449 (1,2) - is so rough when on the whole section it is pretty simple overall. It looks pretty different when you compare to 00:10:288 (1,2) -, i mean, not that changing spacing is bad, but that much is kinda unexpected for this level and frustrating :( i dont think the jump here is bad, as it follows the music which is much louder on this note.
  3. 00:49:772 (1,2) - these are really unaccurate when it comes to the vocal, it doesn't have some sound on the red tick for sure, and it's pretty eeh to hear when playing. Other diffs used sliders/something else to fit the instrumental instead, but since your diff uses a bit of simplification, i'd recommend a slider till 00:50:159 - and it should be fine. Otherwise, you'd need to put it on a better timing, but isn't really necessary imo. you right
  4. About the NCs on the kiai, I understand that you've tried to keep emphasis on the vocal, so your choice was to put something close to the downbeats but not exactly on them. But I still think you should do something about it 01:11:836 (3) -. You usually used 2 downbeats per NC section on kiais, though this one uses 3 01:07:191 -. 01:08:933 (4,5) - this section has a vocal pause, such things that you used as basis to your NCing, but still nothing was done here. The places you put the finish should receive more emphasis, so something should be done close to this one 01:11:836 (3) - aswell, but since you used 3 downbeats on the last, here you needed to use 3 again, and having it done wronly is akward imo.uhh i guess ill put a nc at 01:11:836 , i dont really know what you want me to do.
  5. 01:18:417 (5,1) - I don't really think this jump should be a thing. Like, it's even larger than the kiai ones. After the kiai you usually don't expect such a jump like this, and the note itself doesn't have such a sound to receive that emphasis. Though I understand the large spacing was to show people that these two section are splitted and have no relation to each other, but I am still not happy with this. 01:23:062 (5,1) - doesn't look so massive though, and it's pretty the same thing as the kiai anyways.reduced
good luck on ranking! beautiful song tho

you should mod catch more

dq bois
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JBHyperion
DQ on GDer request to improve Salad
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840
I applied changes from Grapes, now hopefully we can get this ball rolling again
Trynna
yay! i'd still swap the NC on 01:08:933 (4,1) - or 01:09:514 (5,1) - to make it looking like the previous pattern intended but i'm happy with the changes and your explaining.
wonjae
i think the ncs are fine there as the vocals are extreemly similar from what i can tell and i dont like creating small combo values less than 3 in low diffs as it can be a bit distracting to have.
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_6709840

Paranoid Grapes wrote:

i think the ncs are fine there as the vocals are extreemly similar from what i can tell and i dont like creating small combo values less than 3 in low diffs as it can be a bit distracting to have.
I agree with Grapes, so no change on last suggestion
Sc4v4ng3r
Add claps into 01:18:030 (4,5) - in salad as there are snares there, then I'll go ahead and rebub it.
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