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Myrath - Endure The Silence

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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 13 August 2017 at 16:47:24

Artist: Myrath
Title: Endure The Silence
Tags: Mir BOUYAAA tunisian middle eastern folk progressive metal Xtazy legacy ميراث
BPM: 96
Filesize: 7562kb
Play Time: 04:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another (4.4 stars, 891 notes)
  2. BOUYAAA's Extra (5.36 stars, 1076 notes)
  3. Easy (1.43 stars, 281 notes)
  4. Insane (4.09 stars, 785 notes)
  5. Mir's Hard (3.12 stars, 696 notes)
  6. Normal (1.95 stars, 418 notes)
  7. Silent Lonely Nights (5.78 stars, 1049 notes)
Download: Myrath - Endure The Silence
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is where you're meant to be.


Hard by Mir

Extra by BOUYAAA (sexy sliders diff)

Another is an Extra diff that is not part of the spread.

Re-download 26/05/2017 : Updated with Guest Difficulties and new Normal

Re-download 16/05/2017: Updated with Easy

Re-download 17/05/2017: New mp3 (thanks Wishkey!)

Renamed top diff to Ecstasy in Silence, please re-download!

(thanks Yamicchi for the pic lmao)
Hikan
co len anh ei
00:17 Hikan: anh định rank set này à? :v
00:18 LMT: ừa :v
00:18 Hikan: ồ
00:18 Hikan: good luck
00:18 LMT: à có muốn gd ko =))
00:18 LMT: anh còn slot advanced
00:18 Hikan: à chắc không cân nổi
00:18 LMT: uh thôi k sao
00:18 Hikan: đang nhiều gd quá, với lại nhạc nghe vui chứ e không biết map sao
00:19 LMT: ừa đừng lo =))
00:19 LMT: tại đang lười k muốn map advanced =))
00:19 Hikan: irc mod không lấy kds :3 :3
00:19 LMT: mấy bữa nữa chắc rảnh 1 hôm làm luôn
00:19 LMT: ok :3
00:21 Hikan: mà cũng được quá chả biết mod gì =)))
00:22 LMT: xd
00:22 LMT: mod hộ anh spacing
00:22 LMT: có chỗ nào ko ổn ko
00:23 Hikan: 04:00:385 (4) - cái này anh đem hẳn (2,3) quay 60, rồi đè cái cũ lên ấy, nhìn cho đẹp
00:24 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359051
00:24 Hikan: 00:18:823 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - rip eye
00:24 LMT: xd
00:25 LMT: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359077 vầy đc k ?
00:25 Hikan: ừ đẹp hơn rồi
00:26 Hikan: 01:12:573 (3,4) - đổi sang circle để emphasis?, tại nghe 1/2 nhiều
00:27 LMT: hơi overkill chỗ này
00:27 LMT: đoạn này rhythm thưa thôi
00:28 Hikan: 01:48:198 (1) - cái này chắc stack với 3 ok hơn
00:29 LMT: ừa flow tốt hơn
00:29 Hikan: 02:21:948 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - đoạn này nghe sida quá
00:30 Hikan: kiểu khó thích ứng =)))
00:30 LMT: sao?
00:30 LMT: nhìn hay nghe sida
00:30 Hikan: nghe dẫn tới nhìn
00:31 Hikan: 02:22:104 (2,3) - anh thử làm thành reverse slider cái này xem, để cho dễ read chút
00:32 LMT: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359149 vầy cho cái 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 sao
00:32 LMT: nvm ok
00:32 Hikan: ừa ok :3
00:33 Hikan: 02:32:416 (3,4) - tại anh lộn mèo cái này, nên flow chỗ này cũng
00:33 Hikan: ừm, hơi khó
00:33 Hikan: em nghĩ nên làm bt thôi
00:33 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359178
00:34 LMT: ok
00:34 LMT: cho ngược lại rồi
00:36 Hikan: 03:48:198 (1) - hơi xa
00:36 Hikan: hype cũng tốt mà cả đoạn có mỗi chỗ đó xa
00:36 LMT: ok đã giảm chút
00:37 LMT: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359206
00:37 Hikan: 04:16:323 (3) - ctrl g?
00:38 LMT: có chủ ý :v
00:38 LMT: tại
00:38 LMT: violin pitch xuống thấp đột ngột
00:38 LMT: 04:13:823 (2,3) - cũng có structure mà :v
00:39 Hikan: 04:15:385 (4,3) - 2 cái này cùng hướng nếu nhìn qua thấy hơi khó, ừ thôi cứ để vậy đi xd
00:40 LMT: uh anh cũng k hiểu vấn đề lắm xd
00:41 Hikan: 00:20:698 (1) - cái này để cao chút, cho nó lead vô cái 2 ý, để vậy flow từ 4 qua 5 qua 1 cũng bớt khúc hơn
00:41 Hikan: 270;45
00:41 LMT: uhmm ok
00:42 Hikan: 00:30:385 (1) - nc thừa
00:43 LMT: nah mất chỗ khác anh cũng để vậy
00:43 LMT: mấy*
00:43 LMT: với cả cơ bản là cái slider trước 1.5
00:43 LMT: cái này 1
00:43 LMT: SV ấy
00:44 Hikan: như vậy cái 1 đằng trước nó bị nhạt
00:44 LMT: ý là sao
00:45 Hikan: tại nó nc một mình, mà không nổi bật lắm
00:45 LMT: SV tăng 1.5 cũng đâu nhạt lắm :\
00:45 Hikan: chỗ đấy anh undermap mà, nên nc để nhấn mạnh undermap thì
00:46 Hikan: =)))
00:46 LMT: mặc dù biết base SV thấp mà 1.5 lên cũng vậy
00:46 LMT: xd
00:46 LMT: anh theo sát tiếng kéo guitar
00:46 Hikan: 00:56:323 (3,1) - spacing hơi gấp, đem cục 3 qua phải cho có quán tính chút
00:48 LMT: fix 2 chỗ 1 chút
00:48 Hikan: 01:12:573 (3,4) - cái này, 3 stack đầu 1, mà 4 stack đuôi 2
00:49 LMT: fi xed
00:51 Hikan: 01:28:198 (1,2,3,4) - idea thôi, anh thử xem được khong https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359351
00:52 Hikan: à chắc không tại liên quan tới mấy part khác
00:52 LMT: uh
00:52 Hikan: 01:37:885 (5,6,1) - linear flow ew
00:52 LMT: anh cũng nghĩ anh thích cái hiện h hơn =))
00:54 LMT: hết chỗ r =))
00:54 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359398
00:54 LMT: chẳng lễ ctrl+g 01:38:198 (1) -
00:55 LMT: nhưng mà muốn mấy cái stack kia :c
00:55 Hikan: stack cái 5 hả
00:55 Hikan: ử vậy thôi hết cách rồi :v
00:55 LMT: :c
00:56 Hikan: 01:46:635 (4,1) - 2 cái này nhìn không xuôi, ctrl g cái 1 cho đẹp?
00:58 LMT: là sao @@
00:58 Hikan: à há, disable countdown
00:58 LMT: ctrl+g cái 1
00:58 Hikan: ủa lộn
00:58 Hikan: ctrl j
00:58 LMT: thì thà dịch 4 ra chỗ ngược lại tốt hơn
00:59 Hikan: ừ cũng ok
00:59 Hikan: mà đem 3 ra chỗ khác, tại như vậy xa quá
00:59 Hikan: gap vậy chưa đủ
01:00 Hikan: tắt widescreen support luôn
01:00 Hikan: à gap đủ mà nếu nhích 4 lên thì không đủ
01:00 LMT: ok
01:00 LMT: fixed rồi k sao
01:01 Hikan: 02:44:135 (5) - ctrl g
01:01 Hikan: flow vui hơn nè :3
01:02 LMT: ok fixed 2 chỗ
01:02 Hikan: 03:17:416 (2,4) - unstack đi tại để vậy hơn thốn
01:02 LMT: đừng lo read ok =))
01:03 Hikan: 03:23:510 (1,2,3) - quay 120 độ cho perfect
01:03 LMT: perfect với cái gì?
01:04 LMT: ah
01:04 Hikan: triangle
01:04 LMT: có chủ ý
01:04 LMT: ko muốn triangle =))
01:04 LMT: 2 cái đầu là ngược nhau
01:04 LMT: cái sau ở giữa
01:05 Hikan: ok qua diff cuối
01:05 Hikan: disable countdown đã
01:05 LMT: ok :v
01:06 Hikan: 00:05:385 (5) - thấy cái này đem xuống có vẻ thuận hơn? :v
01:06 Hikan: stack hoặc gần stack với cái 2 đằng sau
01:07 LMT: ok đã stack
01:08 Hikan: 00:25:698 (1,5) - overlap
01:08 Hikan: 00:33:510 (2,3) - chỗ này, hơi dễ bị nhầm gap 1/2
01:09 LMT: nhìn slider cũng đủ biết mà :v
01:10 LMT: fixed overlap
01:10 Hikan: nhìn spacing thì không biết được
01:10 LMT: t ko nghĩ là có vấn đề :\
01:10 LMT: tại slider 1/4
01:10 LMT: nhìn cũng biết
01:10 Hikan: vs lại nhìn chả có vẻ gì là nó hướng vô cái triplet =)))
01:11 LMT: uh nhưng mà tại vì cái sliderend chỗ này ko quan trọng mà
01:12 Hikan: 00:59:135 (5,7) - 2 cái này tốt nhất không nên stack, nên để 4567 thành kiểu jump nào í
01:12 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359575
01:13 Hikan: mà nhìn cũng ngáo ngáo, anh thích thì giữ lại cũng dc
01:14 Hikan: 01:09:760 (2) - cái này hình như đáng nc hơn :d
01:14 LMT: nah
01:14 LMT: cái stack kia fixed
01:15 LMT: cái sau thì ko đáng
01:15 LMT: để bỏ cái cấu trúc
01:15 Hikan: 2 cái đang symmetric nc ở giữa cũng vô duyên
01:16 LMT: cũng ko nhất thiết
01:17 LMT: vẫn muốn giữ NC theo downbeat hơn
01:17 LMT: tại kiểu
01:17 LMT: những chỗ như
01:17 LMT: nó nổi bật hơn
01:17 LMT: 02:30:854 (1) -
01:17 LMT: thế này
01:19 Hikan: 01:32:885 (4,5) - a thử kiểu jump này xem xd https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359611
01:20 LMT: ok
01:22 Hikan: 01:48:198 (1,2,3,4) - mấy cái này thấy nó vang vang, anh thử làm 3/2 slider ở đây bao giờ chưa
01:22 LMT: a ko thích
01:22 Hikan: tại extra nên cũng nên lạ lạ
01:22 LMT: với overmap slider end
01:22 LMT: ew
01:22 LMT: chủ yếu ở extra thì
01:22 LMT: 01:50:698 (1) -
01:22 LMT: con hàng này cho vài thằng đấm màn hình chơi
01:23 Hikan: =)))
01:24 Hikan: 02:25:385 (5,6,1) - để 5 ra giữa?
01:25 Hikan: 02:39:760 (1,1) - overlap
01:25 LMT: nhưng mà spacing thế bé quá :c
01:25 Hikan: 02:41:323 (1,1) - sema
01:25 Hikan: vậy mấy cái khác giống vậy thì không bé hả lol =))))
01:25 LMT: fixed overlap
01:26 LMT: à à ok đã fix
01:26 Hikan: 02:57:260 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hype
01:27 Hikan: mấy cái này anh canh ds tăng dần từng cục ấy hả? :d
01:27 LMT: y eeaa ah h h
01:27 LMT: ko
01:27 LMT: anh đặt tay
01:27 Hikan: tròn thế
01:27 LMT: để 1 cái slider to
01:27 Hikan: à
01:27 LMT: xong đặt theo cái đấy tăng dần
01:27 LMT: ko convert
01:29 Hikan: 03:29:448 (1) - mấy cái này nhìn dị bm =)))))
01:29 LMT: dị quá k :v
01:29 Hikan: biết là a cố tình mà vẫn dị quá
01:30 LMT: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359735 thế này thì sao
01:30 Hikan: gấp nhiều vô thay cho lượn í
01:30 LMT: cái tiếng đó gấp vô k hợp :c
01:31 Hikan: thì nó cũng dị
01:31 Hikan: nhìn như lươn
01:31 LMT: hay ý chú là kiểu này
01:31 LMT: 03:24:448 (1) -
01:31 LMT: =)))
01:32 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359761
01:32 Hikan: thế là không quá gấp rồi
01:32 LMT: eww
01:33 Hikan: cái đấy cũng dị =)))
01:33 LMT: cám ơn =))
01:33 LMT: nhưng thôi
01:33 Hikan: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7359776
01:33 Hikan: thôi cái đấy bàn sau =)))
01:34 LMT: vẫn kinh
01:34 LMT: =))
01:35 Hikan: ừ thôi vậy chắc đủ rồi
01:35 Hikan: 1h35 cmnr
01:35 LMT: uh ok thanks chú nhiều =))
yaspo
Hi there! Fourth mod ever, so still a bit noob at this. Take everything with a grain of salt.

[Insane]
00:19:135 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Nothing in the map quite matches this amount of overlap. It think it might be a bit unfitting?
01:23:041 (9,1) - This seems unnecessarily difficult to hit, due to the slight outwards change in flow.
Especially when 00:40:385 (6,1) changes flow inwards instead (and so does 02:53:041 (9,1) ) . It would probably be better if you stayed consistent with that.
02:46:323 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Wouldn't it be better to have the slider on 5 parallel with the pattern ?
03:20:619 (5,1) - 03:23:119 (6,1) - I'm not sure if introducing those patterns this late in the map is a good idea, as you only use a slider this short only once right before it ( 03:18:198 (1) ). That might make them difficult to recognize, which is not very cool this far in.

[Silent Lonely Nights]
02:33:823 (3,4,5,6) - 02:36:323 (3,4,5,6) - These looks a bit messy in the editor? They would look better when perfectly parallel, I think.
03:14:291 (1) - 03:54:291 (1) - Purely subjective, but I am not a fan of this particular slider shape.
03:23:119 (6,1) - This feels out of place, it's the only time you mapped a sound like in this way. Maybe you could use a sliderend like you did on 03:20:385 (5) ?
04:20:073 (4,5,6,7,1) - I'm not very fond of this at the very end of the map. Even though it probably is technically correct, it just seems like an unnecessary 1xmiss generator, as there is no similar pattern before it. It kinda comes out of nowhere.
The sounds you're emphasizing also start earlier than the jumps actually occur. I suggest you either transition from the vocals into the start of the sounds, or leave a 2 beat gap to stick with just the vocals.

Outside of that, I really, really like these maps! I hope this is rankable as it is now, because I think you did a great job.
Topic Starter
LMT

yasporuben wrote:

Hi there! Fourth mod ever, so still a bit noob at this. Take everything with a grain of salt.

[Insane]
00:19:135 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Nothing in the map quite matches this amount of overlap. It think it might be a bit unfitting? nerfed
01:23:041 (9,1) - This seems unnecessarily difficult to hit, due to the slight outwards change in flow. i know but changed nonetheless
Especially when 00:40:385 (6,1) changes flow inwards instead (and so does 02:53:041 (9,1) ) . It would probably be better if you stayed consistent with that.
02:46:323 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Wouldn't it be better to have the slider on 5 parallel with the pattern ? fixed
03:20:619 (5,1) - 03:23:119 (6,1) - I'm not sure if introducing those patterns this late in the map is a good idea, as you only use a slider this short only once right before it ( 03:18:198 (1) ). That might make them difficult to recognize, which is not very cool this far in. it's not that hard xd because the 1/1 gap allows the player to get what's going on.

[Silent Lonely Nights]
02:33:823 (3,4,5,6) - 02:36:323 (3,4,5,6) - These looks a bit messy in the editor? They would look better when perfectly parallel, I think. not my intention to be parallel but tweaked it a bit.
03:14:291 (1) - 03:54:291 (1) - Purely subjective, but I am not a fan of this particular slider shape. nah I think it's cool, it's not that wild either.
03:23:119 (6,1) - This feels out of place, it's the only time you mapped a sound like in this way. Maybe you could use a sliderend like you did on 03:20:385 (5) ? no because the violin here is slightly different.
04:20:073 (4,5,6,7,1) - I'm not very fond of this at the very end of the map. Even though it probably is technically correct, it just seems like an unnecessary 1xmiss generator, as there is no similar pattern before it. It kinda comes out of nowhere. don't worry people won't sightread fc this xd. If they've got to this point and didn't expect something like this i'll be very disappointed as they retry before finishing the map xd.
The sounds you're emphasizing also start earlier than the jumps actually occur. I suggest you either transition from the vocals into the start of the sounds, or leave a 2 beat gap to stick with just the vocals. also no because the violin takes over the prominence of the track at that tick.

Outside of that, I really, really like these maps! I hope this is rankable as it is now, because I think you did a great job. thanks, pretty good mod
Fenza
Hi! From the M4M request :)

Another
General
I would up the AR of this to atleast 9
I feel like you overlap too much and focus a bit too much on reading as this is a low SR insane difficulty.

Hitsounds
Just as you are doing in the extra (read the extra mod for details) is that you are ignoring multiple great opportunities to hitwhistle for the entire intro
00:23:823 (3) - missing finish because of cymbal
00:22:573 (3) - same
00:21:166 (2) - and the slider tail of this, so i would make that clickable
00:28:198 (1) - missing hitfinish cause cymbal
00:28:823 (2) - same
00:55:698 (1) - this should not be hitfinished, atleast not with a cymbal as there is no cymbal there.
It could have been justifiable if your song didn't have any drums, but since it does and your hitsounds are all drumbased it's not that good
01:00:698 (1) - doesnt deserve a cymbal finish
01:01:948 (1) - same
01:05:698 (1) - same
01:10:698 (1) - same




Rhythms
00:20:541 (5) - missing some drumbeats here? This is Insane level after all
00:53:198 (1) - i think you should map the drums in this entire section because it feels like the map is stopping but music keeps on going, so rhythms like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656119
00:58:979 (1,2,3) - i think this is a bit much for such a low SR map, i would just do circles here since the drums are so dominant



Plancements
I would say you need to work on aesthetic structure in this difficulty (i have broader explanations in the Extra difficulties and i will leave it up to you to use them)
00:22:416 (2,3,4,5) - this is very hard to read
00:26:166 (2,3,4,5) - this seems very out of place and flows weird, maybe do something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656092
00:38:510 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - i really don't like these kinds of patterns in low SR insanes, especially not at this high of a bpm
01:28:198 (1,2,3,4,1) - overlaps like these don't work in a 4.5 star 192 bpm map
01:47:182 (2,3) - this looks very out of place, maybe stack onto 01:46:791 (1) - ?


Conclusion
I would say this map shares many of the problems found in the Extra difficulty, especially in the hitsounding department.

Another big problem with this is the frequent overlapping and very challenging to read patterns at a low AR and a relatively high BPM.
Things like these are better reserved for Extra difficulties and can be resolved by either using a higher stack leniency, moving notes a bit further from eachother (basicly manual stack leniency) or remapping entire patterns.

Distance snap is also a very useful tool when mapping Insane and lower, just don't use it religiously like you would in Normal and below.

Try to use less complicated rhythms than in your Extra difficulty to make a better spread, an Insane isn't just an Extra with lower spacing, there are also significant rhythm differences.

Silent Lonely Nights
Hitsounds
00:00:698 (1,3) - i think soft hitwhistles fit perfectly with the white ticks here
00:03:823 (2) - same here
00:04:448 (3,4,1) - and here, just this entire section
00:05:698 (1,1) - i don't really like the hitfinishes here, i would just have soft hitwhistles at a considerably higher volume than the rest of the notes
00:08:823 (3,3,3) - these 3 are missing soft whistles
00:10:698 (1,4) - more whistles
00:11:948 (1,1) - same here
I think you get the drill with whistles, they really do make a huge difference
00:15:682 (1,1) - these are
00:33:822 (5) - this should be hitfinished because of the cymbal
00:26:323 (4) - same
00:27:573 (4) - same
00:28:823 (1) - same
00:35:073 (1) - same
you get the drill, hitfinished go on cymbals
01:15:698 (1) - this shouldnt be hitfinished

Rhythms
00:11:010 (2,3) - this is actually 1/4
00:33:510 (2,3,4,5) - i dont feel like this should be different from 00:27:416 (2,3,4,5) -
00:36:791 (6) - i feel like this fits better as a circle since this is a strong drumbeat instead of whatever instrument is dominant here 00:36:635 (5) -
00:39:526 (2) - this is overmapped or atleast doesn't warrant a circle
00:54:291 (6) - this slider is covering up a strong beat on the slider tail
01:05:854 (2) - this probably fits better as a 1/2 reverse slider as it covers a pretty clear drum beat
02:02:729 (1,2) - just following the drums is better here i think



Placements
00:28:744 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this might be a bit overkill, i think the concept is good but maybe tone down the spacing a bit
00:31:479 (3,3) - this kind of overlapping looks pretty disorganized so i would keep an equal spacing inbetween all the notes so it looks well structured, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655680
00:39:916 (4,5,6,7,8) - i think this is a bit boring, perfect for 1-2-1-2 jumps though
01:04:135 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - overlaps like these https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655737 look super disorganized and random, i'd suggest using some geometrical shape to structure this up or to do something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655748
01:05:698 (1,2) - i misread for a triple
01:14:760 (2,3,4) - i think this flows awkardly because you break flow twice in succession, here 01:14:760 (2,3) - and in this slider 01:15:073 (4) -
it would play a lot better if the slider was pointed something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655791
01:28:198 (1) - this entire kiai is pretty damn swell
02:01:244 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - same as the start, this is a bit too hard
02:28:198 (1) - again with the weird overlaps, putting this 02:29:135 (2) - at an equal spacing like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655829 would be nice
02:39:135 (2,1) - maybe fix this blanket?
02:50:229 (4,5) - fix overlap again
02:58:198 (1) - dude nice, maybe clean up some of the overlaps in ways that i presented earlier? It plays well it just looks rather disorganized
03:29:448 (1) - i don't really like this slider, maybe do something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655864
03:36:791 (1) - maybe NC this so it looks a bit cleaner

Conclusion
I think this diff is very interesting but needs some work in hitsounding and in aesthetic structure

Here are some tips on aesthetic structure to make your map look cleaner!

Consistent Spacing

so you don't end up with things like this
A solution like this is much better
The spacing between 1 and 3 is the same as the spacing between 2 and 4.
These kind of things look really neat

Geometrical Shapes

perfect for cleaning up patterns like these
Using geometrical shapes like triangles will make your maps look a lot cleaner.
Like this

Blankets

I know you are aware of how to blanket but you were missing a bunch of blankets especially when you were using longer sliders
Using multiple nodes like this makes blanketing with longer sliders a lot easier
Topic Starter
LMT

Fenza wrote:

Hi! From the M4M request :)

Another
General
I would up the AR of this to atleast 9 nah the AR is the gimmick :p
I feel like you overlap too much and focus a bit too much on reading as this is a low SR insane difficulty. That's why it's an "Another", not an Insane, it's a special diff. It's like a reading extra lol. I have an actual Insane so the spread is actually well-designed. There's another Extra diff at about 5.3* coming.

Hitsounds
Just as you are doing in the extra (read the extra mod for details) is that you are ignoring multiple great opportunities to hitwhistle for the entire intro as explained in top diff
00:23:823 (3) - missing finish because of cymbal there's snare in the song, more structural and less spammy to use it this way.
00:22:573 (3) - same
00:21:166 (2) - and the slider tail of this, so i would make that clickable it has a snare hitsound, and i'm following the violin
00:28:198 (1) - missing hitfinish cause cymbal yes indeed
00:28:823 (2) - same snare'd instead
00:55:698 (1) - this should not be hitfinished, atleast not with a cymbal as there is no cymbal there. nice catch, fixed all for this section; not after when the guitar riffs come in because there are cymbals there
It could have been justifiable if your song didn't have any drums, but since it does and your hitsounds are all drumbased it's not that good
01:00:698 (1) - doesnt deserve a cymbal finish
01:01:948 (1) - same
01:05:698 (1) - same
01:10:698 (1) - same




Rhythms
00:20:541 (5) - missing some drumbeats here? This is Insane level after all yeah but this is more pattern based. I don't need to utilise all available beats tho.
00:53:198 (1) - i think you should map the drums in this entire section because it feels like the map is stopping but music keeps on going, so rhythms like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656119 No since that would make this section too similar to the section after this, when the guitar comes in. Also undermapping it like this makes certain sounds like this 00:56:479 (1,2,3,4) - more prominent
00:58:979 (1,2,3) - i think this is a bit much for such a low SR map, i would just do circles here since the drums are so dominant yeah this is not an insane so...Also I think the violin is more prominent.



Plancements
I would say you need to work on aesthetic structure in this difficulty (i have broader explanations in the Extra difficulties and i will leave it up to you to use them)
00:22:416 (2,3,4,5) - this is very hard to read yes but it's consistently executed to emphasise certain parts of the music.
00:26:166 (2,3,4,5) - this seems very out of place and flows weird, maybe do something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7656092 it plays as back and forth, and the 1/4 sliders are there because they emphasise the violin. It's not out of place because I use this pattern repeatedly for the whole section
00:38:510 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - i really don't like these kinds of patterns in low SR insanes, especially not at this high of a bpm explained
01:28:198 (1,2,3,4,1) - overlaps like these don't work in a 4.5 star 192 bpm map that's the whole point of this AR. It's a pattern reading based diff; while clicking density and movement is easy, the player has to be able to interpret the patterns.
01:47:182 (2,3) - this looks very out of place, maybe stack onto 01:46:791 (1) - ? nice, stacked


Conclusion
I would say this map shares many of the problems found in the Extra difficulty, especially in the hitsounding department.

Another big problem with this is the frequent overlapping and very challenging to read patterns at a low AR and a relatively high BPM.
Things like these are better reserved for Extra difficulties and can be resolved by either using a higher stack leniency, moving notes a bit further from eachother (basicly manual stack leniency) or remapping entire patterns.

Distance snap is also a very useful tool when mapping Insane and lower, just don't use it religiously like you would in Normal and below.

Try to use less complicated rhythms than in your Extra difficulty to make a better spread, an Insane isn't just an Extra with lower spacing, there are also significant rhythm differences.

Silent Lonely Nights
Hitsounds
00:00:698 (1,3) - i think soft hitwhistles fit perfectly with the white ticks here
00:03:823 (2) - same here
00:04:448 (3,4,1) - and here, just this entire section
00:05:698 (1,1) - i don't really like the hitfinishes here, i would just have soft hitwhistles at a considerably higher volume than the rest of the notes the whole hitsouding idea here is to be quiet so the finishes stand out and since the music is very quiet here, I don't want to make other additions. I like how they sound atm. Might make some tweaks if there are more complaints.
00:08:823 (3,3,3) - these 3 are missing soft whistles
00:10:698 (1,4) - more whistles
00:11:948 (1,1) - same here
I think you get the drill with whistles, they really do make a huge difference
00:15:682 (1,1) - these are ?
00:33:822 (5) - this should be hitfinished because of the cymbal not necessarily when it's cymbal I have to add finishes. Also finish spam feels overdone so I'm leaving it as that.
00:26:323 (4) - same
00:27:573 (4) - same
00:28:823 (1) - same
00:35:073 (1) - same
you get the drill, hitfinished go on cymbals
01:15:698 (1) - this shouldnt be hitfinished did sth

Rhythms
00:11:010 (2,3) - this is actually 1/4 um no definitely 1/12 for the piano.
00:33:510 (2,3,4,5) - i dont feel like this should be different from 00:27:416 (2,3,4,5) - Um they are different though, this 00:27:416 (2,3,4,5,6) - is just before a transistion whereas 00:33:510 (2,3,4,5) - this is more identical to this 00:23:666 (2,3,4) - though the second occurance has a note on the red tick so I made a small change to the rhythm (but not drastic)
00:36:791 (6) - i feel like this fits better as a circle since this is a strong drumbeat instead of whatever instrument is dominant here 00:36:635 (5) - that would undermine the violin i'm trying to emphasise.
00:39:526 (2) - this is overmapped or atleast doesn't warrant a circle I can definitely hear a tom sound, that's why i map the circles a bit differently: first two for the toms and the next ones for the snares.
00:54:291 (6) - this slider is covering up a strong beat on the slider tail not necessarily, the guitar has the dominance here. I do give the proper spacing for the next object for the player to realise it's a 1/1 gap.
01:05:854 (2) - this probably fits better as a 1/2 reverse slider as it covers a pretty clear drum beat Vocals is the most prominent line in this whole section so I'm trying to follow it as close as possible.
02:02:729 (1,2) - just following the drums is better here i think you've got a point, though I still like following the piano :p Let's see how others have to say about this.



Placements
00:28:744 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - this might be a bit overkill, i think the concept is good but maybe tone down the spacing a bit fixed for the straight streams, still leaving a jump (but nerfed) for the downbeat :p
00:31:479 (3,3) - this kind of overlapping looks pretty disorganized so i would keep an equal spacing inbetween all the notes so it looks well structured, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655680 agreed
00:39:916 (4,5,6,7,8) - i think this is a bit boring, perfect for 1-2-1-2 jumps though nah this is actually pretty hard to hit properly and it's more fitting for the violin imo.
01:04:135 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - overlaps like these https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655737 look super disorganized and random, i'd suggest using some geometrical shape to structure this up or to do something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655748 fixed how i see fit
01:05:698 (1,2) - i misread for a triple not sure why, but I don't think I've seen anyone misreading this yet
01:14:760 (2,3,4) - i think this flows awkardly because you break flow twice in succession, here 01:14:760 (2,3) - and in this slider 01:15:073 (4) -
it would play a lot better if the slider was pointed something like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655791 good idea
01:28:198 (1) - this entire kiai is pretty damn swell :d
02:01:244 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - same as the start, this is a bit too hard yea nerfed
02:28:198 (1) - again with the weird overlaps, putting this 02:29:135 (2) - at an equal spacing like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655829 would be nice sure
02:39:135 (2,1) - maybe fix this blanket? cleaned up things
02:50:229 (4,5) - fix overlap again sure
02:58:198 (1) - dude nice, maybe clean up some of the overlaps in ways that i presented earlier? It plays well it just looks rather disorganized sure
03:29:448 (1) - i don't really like this slider, maybe do something like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7655864 I prefer mine :p It's just a decaying sine wave
03:36:791 (1) - maybe NC this so it looks a bit cleaner NC'd the downbeat

Conclusion
I think this diff is very interesting but needs some work in hitsounding and in aesthetic structure

Here are some tips on aesthetic structure to make your map look cleaner!

Consistent Spacing

so you don't end up with things like this
A solution like this is much better
The spacing between 1 and 3 is the same as the spacing between 2 and 4.
These kind of things look really neat

Geometrical Shapes

perfect for cleaning up patterns like these
Using geometrical shapes like triangles will make your maps look a lot cleaner.
Like this

Blankets

I know you are aware of how to blanket but you were missing a bunch of blankets especially when you were using longer sliders
Using multiple nodes like this makes blanketing with longer sliders a lot easier
Thanks!!
Hikan
no kudo, I regret my old mod

sln
00:20:698 (1) - thay vì cong lên thì cho nó cong xuống xem? 00:30:698 (1,2) - tựa vậy
00:31:948 (1) - nhạc nó đâu có như vậy lol , đổi shape nào đơn giản chút, thử bỏ cái red anchor đầu
00:33:510 (2) - ctrl g for flow?
00:43:198 - anh add thử một cái circle ở đây rồi hẳn break? :d
00:49:135 - ở đây thấy không có gì đáng để extend hết, bắt đầu cái spinner luôn cũng đâu có ảnh hưởng gì lắm, also em nghe cái spinner bắt đầu từ đây cơ 00:51:010 -
00:53:510 (1,2,3) - tđn cái này thẳng mà 1,4,5 thì không
00:57:729 (4) - cái này tự nhiên bắt vocal hơi dở tại vì 3 cái đằng trước thì không, thử 1/2 circle ở 00:57:260 - để cho nó có chút nhận biết?
hoặc không thì có vấn đề này, 00:56:791 (3,4,1,2) - flow ở đây rất khó vì sau 1 cái gap 1/1 mà hướng thì vẫn không đổi, sau đó lại bẻ hẳn lên (3), ở đây nếu anh muốn thì thử ctrl g (2,3) rồi sắp xếp lại cái (4) xem.
00:59:760 (1,2,3) - spacing hơi mâu thuẫn, thử stack (2) với (3), không thì slider tail (1)
01:09:448 (1,2) - uhm theo cảm nhận em thì chỗ này không đáng nc downbeat, nghe cái (2) rõ ràng là nổi bật hơn, với lại cái (1) anh đang follow pattern đằng trước nên cũng follow tiếp chứ nc lên thì nó không hay
01:15:698 (1,2) - cho nó cách nhau xíu, hẹp quá nhìn xấu ạ
01:22:573 (4) - nc?
01:56:948 (1) - ở đây slider thẳng có vẻ hợp hơn, anh thử cho nó trùng với cái followpoint từ (7) tới (1)
02:02:885 (1,2,1) - nát flow =))) , break vậy lúc chơi hơi thốn, anh thử thế này https://puu.sh/w2q5n/67fdb6f0e5.png
02:10:073 (3,4,5) - nice pattern
02:20:698 (1) - emphasis?
02:32:573 (3) - thấy có vẻ đang ăn theo pattern nên thử nc cục này luôn
02:37:104 (2,3) - huu, thấy đằng trước đằng sau cũng vẻ anh đang follow vocal mà 2 cái này nó bể rhythm, ctrl g for vocal?
02:43:666 (2,3,4) - this kind of spacing hauhaasuhdfla
02:47:104 (2,3) - tương tự rhythm luôn này, thấy hơi bị underatted đoạn vocal khúc đấy, với lại rõ là tick đỏ cũng yếu hơn tick trắng
02:50:385 (5) - anh snap cái này với 02:49:291 (3) - cho pattern nó không có linear thử xem, flow để vậy cũng kì lol
02:55:385 - ở đây nghe cái beat của spinner hơi overmap, hoặc mute hoặc extend đi
03:13:198 (1,3) - https://puu.sh/w2B9A/a596449d33.png overlap
03:17:182 - overmap slider tail ): , mute?
03:19:760 (2,3) - cái additional rhythm này nghe rất hay, nhưng mà từ trước stream nó chỉ lặp lại 0 lần nên cũng dẫn tới inconsistent rhythm, anh thử add cục này thêm chỗ nào đằng sau được không? 03:22:338 - đây chẳng hạn
03:26:323 (1,2,3) - có thể clean hơn được không ạ, like
03:53:198 (1,3) - overlap slider head như đoạn trên, xích ra chút là ok
BOUYAAA's
00:16:635 (2) - as you did here 00:14:760 (3,4) - , try this position 177;241 for a better gameplay
00:18:198 (5) - This starts another rhythm as well as downbeat, it is enough reason to be nc-ed
00:39:291 (8,2) - this overlap is really cool but give me a reasoon why you did overlap those slider head :x https://puu.sh/w2Crm/300da6b5d7.png
02:25:541 (6,1) - this is kinda odd because the spacing got nearer suddenly, I think 02:25:698 (1) - Ctrl G this would be very nice to emphasis the downbeat there, also 02:25:698 (1,2) - improve blanket, it triggered me a bit
02:27:416 - I hear a beat here, did you forget it
02:38:823 (3) - Ctrl G would be nicer imo, for flow
04:07:573 (1) - not a big problem, but try putting it somewhere around 355;145 for a better sight
04:22:885 - because there is an object here, I think it could be recognized better if you change 04:21:635 - and 04:22:260 - into circles instead of reverse, it will also follow the vocal better than the current rhythm I think.
sorry I cant clearly mod your map because it is really good seriously, well done.
Ins
00:48:510 -
00:53:823 - add circle ở đây luôn? Thấy bỏ bass như vậy hơi uổng, tap 1 lần 3 cái cho nó challenge xd
02:32:885 (5,6) - Ctrl G cái này thử, để nó có chút similar với diff cuối, đồng thời cũng emphasis cái downbeat hơn
03:12:260 (2,3) - cái (3) thử cho nó symmetric với (2) để pattern nó cổ điển chút, còn như vậy thì cái (2) thấy không lead đi đâu cả
03:54:916 (3) - overlap reverse coi chừng unrankable https://puu.sh/w2DNJ/fa1bba3dd9.png
04:03:198 (1) - chưa emphasis được nhiều, nên kéo nó xa ra, càng xa càng tốt
04:08:119 - cái reverse này nên bỏ đi để player nó predictable, tại nó nằm riêng ra mà còn phải giữ thì không kịp để bấm object đằng sau ạ (giới hạn trong Insane diff nên cũng không nên quá lố :v )
04:20:698 (1) - thứ chỗ này 480;0 ?
04:23:198 (1) - cục này nên nằm ở giữa thì hơn, stack làm nó cảm giác nó giống 2 objects kia vậy
Mir's
00:32:885 (4,2) - blanket pls ):
00:51:323 (2) - this sounds too exotic to me. Like, you dont need to extend it imo, just a circle has already represented the song good enough here.
03:07:885 (4,1) - https://puu.sh/w2Em9/d0d4e0ff56.png this overlap
sorry but namirin started streaming and I dont want to skip it xdxd.

quality set, good luck!
Topic Starter
LMT

Hikan wrote:

no kudo, I regret my old mod

sln
00:20:698 (1) - thay vì cong lên thì cho nó cong xuống xem? 00:30:698 (1,2) - tựa vậy hướng jump vào hơi ngược quá, ko thích
00:31:948 (1) - nhạc nó đâu có như vậy lol , đổi shape nào đơn giản chút, thử bỏ cái red anchor đầu violin
00:33:510 (2) - ctrl g for flow? cố ý, để ý mấy cái jump ngay sau cùng hướng với slider
00:43:198 - anh add thử một cái circle ở đây rồi hẳn break? :d k thích =))
00:49:135 - ở đây thấy không có gì đáng để extend hết, bắt đầu cái spinner luôn cũng đâu có ảnh hưởng gì lắm, also em nghe cái spinner bắt đầu từ đây cơ 00:51:010 - violin + hết câu của vocal
00:53:510 (1,2,3) - tđn cái này thẳng mà 1,4,5 thì không f
00:57:729 (4) - cái này tự nhiên bắt vocal hơi dở tại vì 3 cái đằng trước thì không, thử 1/2 circle ở 00:57:260 - để cho nó có chút nhận biết? vocal có đây nhấn tick đỏ thôi
hoặc không thì có vấn đề này, 00:56:791 (3,4,1,2) - flow ở đây rất khó vì sau 1 cái gap 1/1 mà hướng thì vẫn không đổi, sau đó lại bẻ hẳn lên (3), ở đây nếu anh muốn thì thử ctrl g (2,3) rồi sắp xếp lại cái (4) xem. có sửa
00:59:760 (1,2,3) - spacing hơi mâu thuẫn, thử stack (2) với (3), không thì slider tail (1) f nhưng k stack
01:09:448 (1,2) - uhm theo cảm nhận em thì chỗ này không đáng nc downbeat, nghe cái (2) rõ ràng là nổi bật hơn, với lại cái (1) anh đang follow pattern đằng trước nên cũng follow tiếp chứ nc lên thì nó không hay ok
01:15:698 (1,2) - cho nó cách nhau xíu, hẹp quá nhìn xấu ạ ok
01:22:573 (4) - nc? ok
01:56:948 (1) - ở đây slider thẳng có vẻ hợp hơn, anh thử cho nó trùng với cái followpoint từ (7) tới (1) ok
02:02:885 (1,2,1) - nát flow =))) , break vậy lúc chơi hơi thốn, anh thử thế này https://puu.sh/w2q5n/67fdb6f0e5.png anh ctrl+g 1
02:10:073 (3,4,5) - nice pattern :3
02:20:698 (1) - emphasis? muốn theo cái tom đang đi xuống
02:32:573 (3) - thấy có vẻ đang ăn theo pattern nên thử nc cục này luôn oki
02:37:104 (2,3) - huu, thấy đằng trước đằng sau cũng vẻ anh đang follow vocal mà 2 cái này nó bể rhythm, ctrl g for vocal? theo bass guitar, ở đây nổi bật
02:43:666 (2,3,4) - this kind of spacing hauhaasuhdfla f
02:47:104 (2,3) - tương tự rhythm luôn này, thấy hơi bị underatted đoạn vocal khúc đấy, với lại rõ là tick đỏ cũng yếu hơn tick trắng same, bass guitar
02:50:385 (5) - anh snap cái này với 02:49:291 (3) - cho pattern nó không có linear thử xem, flow để vậy cũng kì lol thấy bt mà
02:55:385 - ở đây nghe cái beat của spinner hơi overmap, hoặc mute hoặc extend đi ok
03:13:198 (1,3) - https://puu.sh/w2B9A/a596449d33.png overlap yy
03:17:182 - overmap slider tail ): , mute? kk
03:19:760 (2,3) - cái additional rhythm này nghe rất hay, nhưng mà từ trước stream nó chỉ lặp lại 0 lần nên cũng dẫn tới inconsistent rhythm, anh thử add cục này thêm chỗ nào đằng sau được không? 03:22:338 - đây chẳng hạn vì cái nhạc cụ chỗ đó có mỗi ở đó :(
03:26:323 (1,2,3) - có thể clean hơn được không ạ, like uh
03:53:198 (1,3) - overlap slider head như đoạn trên, xích ra chút là ok aah ok

Ins
00:48:510 - ?
00:53:823 - add circle ở đây luôn? Thấy bỏ bass như vậy hơi uổng, tap 1 lần 3 cái cho nó challenge xd chìm rhythm guitar
02:32:885 (5,6) - Ctrl G cái này thử, để nó có chút similar với diff cuối, đồng thời cũng emphasis cái downbeat hơn y
03:12:260 (2,3) - cái (3) thử cho nó symmetric với (2) để pattern nó cổ điển chút, còn như vậy thì cái (2) thấy không lead đi đâu cả 03:11:323 (3) - cái 3 kia symmetric với cái này, cái 2 cũng k hẳn k đi tới đâu, chỉ rời đuôi slider sớm hơn tí thôi
03:54:916 (3) - overlap reverse coi chừng unrankable https://puu.sh/w2DNJ/fa1bba3dd9.png yy
04:03:198 (1) - chưa emphasis được nhiều, nên kéo nó xa ra, càng xa càng tốt okok
04:08:119 - cái reverse này nên bỏ đi để player nó predictable, tại nó nằm riêng ra mà còn phải giữ thì không kịp để bấm object đằng sau ạ (giới hạn trong Insane diff nên cũng không nên quá lố :v ) reverse slider để xa có cấu trúc mà
04:20:698 (1) - thứ chỗ này 480;0 ? y
04:23:198 (1) - cục này nên nằm ở giữa thì hơn, stack làm nó cảm giác nó giống 2 objects kia vậy overlap :(


quality set, good luck! ui chời ui iu hikan nắm nắm nun
Mir

Hikan wrote:

[Mir's]00:32:885 (4,2) - blanket pls ):
00:51:323 (2) - this sounds too exotic to me. Like, you dont need to extend it imo, just a circle has already represented the song good enough here.
03:07:885 (4,1) - https://puu.sh/w2Em9/d0d4e0ff56.png this overlap
sorry but namirin started streaming and I dont want to skip it xdxd.

quality set, good luck!
did a lot of remapping and stuff my diff is so old aaaaa i will probably do more later but for now here

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Rohit6
Okoratu
[hello anything in here applies for the custom diffname and similar places like things mentioned in here are to be treated similarly]
00:11:010 (2,3) - volume on heads is lol
00:20:229 (3,4,5,6) - jump would make more sense from 4-5 instead of 3-4 because that's how you do spacing everywhere else
00:56:948 (4,1) - custom stack is odd since you don't stack anything else custom in the section
01:10:698 (1,1,1) - i think you should have a different slider pattenr from 01:08:198 (1,1,1) - and 01:18:198 (1,1,1) - because the voice isn't vibrating the same way as it does in these two patterns here so having a distinctly different pattern from that would help making that clearer
i think overall the kiais could be more balanced between left and right moving sliders, as you base the parts around it and the first has like 3 1/1 sliders going towards the right and like 8 going to the leftwhich seems likyou mapped with an idea in mind which could be more balanced overall
01:37:260 (1,1) - tbh hitsounding suggests that this should be way more intense than what you mapped it as, that you use the same pattern within the kiai previously multiple times makes this stand out very little in comparison to how it's combo'd and hitsounded
01:45:385 (2,1) - 03:13:198 (1,3) - 2nd one looks so much nicer aesthetically
02:11:010 (2,3,2,3) - seem a lot harder to read for no reason compared to their equivalent section in the beginning
02:18:823 (4,1) - contrary to other part special stacking would be cool to highlight special rhythm
02:23:823 (4,1) - active 3/4 gap isn't obvious and idk how you could make it obvious because current thing just gets read as 1/2 and then :neutral_face:
02:56:088 (4) - 02:56:322 (1,2,3,4) - first you ignore this kind of thing and put everything into a long stream and then you map it like 3 times on blueticks i think the blue tick esp the lul double within a stream plays super awkward
03:29:448 (1) - melody is doing cool thing and you put nothing it on active things to highlight that they're different which is kinda lame

will do the rest later once i get my nominerds to be interested in it
BOUYAAA

Okorin wrote:

nominerds
only read this and it's true
Bonsai
get ready to be nerdinated 8-)
Topic Starter
LMT

Okorin wrote:

[hello anything in here applies for the custom diffname and similar places like things mentioned in here are to be treated similarly]
00:11:010 (2,3) - volume on heads is lol fixed lol
00:20:229 (3,4,5,6) - jump would make more sense from 4-5 instead of 3-4 because that's how you do spacing everywhere else did sth about that
00:56:948 (4,1) - custom stack is odd since you don't stack anything else custom in the section fixed
01:10:698 (1,1,1) - i think you should have a different slider pattenr from 01:08:198 (1,1,1) - and 01:18:198 (1,1,1) - because the voice isn't vibrating the same way as it does in these two patterns here so having a distinctly different pattern from that would help making that clearer fixed 2 places where this occurs
i think overall the kiais could be more balanced between left and right moving sliders, as you base the parts around it and the first has like 3 1/1 sliders going towards the right and like 8 going to the leftwhich seems likyou mapped with an idea in mind which could be more balanced overall didn't really think about that while mapping the kiais, but I did try to balance it but just not 50 left - 50 right
01:37:260 (1,1) - tbh hitsounding suggests that this should be way more intense than what you mapped it as, that you use the same pattern within the kiai previously multiple times makes this stand out very little in comparison to how it's combo'd and hitsounded its movement is different from the rest though, I added some spacing between them just to make them a bit clearer than the violin stuff in the kiai
01:45:385 (2,1) - 03:13:198 (1,3) - 2nd one looks so much nicer aesthetically fixed
02:11:010 (2,3,2,3) - seem a lot harder to read for no reason compared to their equivalent section in the beginning made offsets so they're easier to read
02:18:823 (4,1) - contrary to other part special stacking would be cool to highlight special rhythm yes
02:23:823 (4,1) - active 3/4 gap isn't obvious and idk how you could make it obvious because current thing just gets read as 1/2 and then :neutral_face: stacking + NC was what I did, not sure if it's enough tho
02:56:088 (4) - 02:56:322 (1,2,3,4) - first you ignore this kind of thing and put everything into a long stream and then you map it like 3 times on blueticks i think the blue tick esp the lul double within a stream plays super awkward simplified the dumb doubles
03:29:448 (1) - melody is doing cool thing and you put nothing it on active things to highlight that they're different which is kinda lame kinda want to emphasise that violin with this chord which is kinda unique. Also the percussions are just kinda doing 1/2s so it's not really that outstanding to me

will do the rest later once i get my nominerds to be interested in it
Thanks a lot!!
BOUYAAA

Bonsai wrote:

get ready to be nerdinated 8-)
I think LMT is busy responding to REAL mods why don't you take a look at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/545156 meanwhile???

Edit : mod my map
Topic Starter
LMT
ok I don't even know what's going on
BOUYAAA
We're waiting for the nominerds
riffy

BOUYAAA wrote:

I think LMT is busy responding to REAL mods why don't you take a look at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/545156 meanwhile???
sorry, we're only interested in good maps 8-)

alm i the only one thinking that kiais in normal are too have for the easiest difficuly?
BOUYAAA

Bakari wrote:

sorry, we're only interested in good maps 8-)
I'm sorry can we stop going offtopic here??????

Hikan wrote:

no kudo, I regret my old mod

BOUYAAA's
00:16:635 (2) - as you did here 00:14:760 (3,4) - , try this position 177;241 for a better gameplay i think i prefer it right now. Back and forth is an easy movement to follow and spacing is slightly higher as i have it right now which offers better emphasis on the next note
00:18:198 (5) - This starts another rhythm as well as downbeat, it is enough reason to be nc-ed agreed
00:39:291 (8,2) - this overlap is really cool but give me a reasoon why you did overlap those slider head :x https://puu.sh/w2Crm/300da6b5d7.png i cannot find what your screenshot refers to, are you sure you liked the right thing?
02:25:541 (6,1) - this is kinda odd because the spacing got nearer suddenly, I think 02:25:698 (1) - Ctrl G this would be very nice to emphasis the downbeat didn't do quite what you said but changed it to be correct now there, also 02:25:698 (1,2) - improve blanket, it triggered me a bit i tried
02:27:416 - I hear a beat here, did you forget it indeed lol
02:38:823 (3) - Ctrl G would be nicer imo, for flow they all have this rather borken movement so i'd rather keep that as is. I don't think ctrlging that would be more comfortable to play either
04:07:573 (1) - not a big problem, but try putting it somewhere around 355;145 for a better sight i'd rather keep that too as the broken stream gives some differentiation to the next sliders
04:22:885 - because there is an object here, I think it could be recognized better if you change 04:21:635 - and 04:22:260 - into circles instead of reverse, it will also follow the vocal better than the current rhythm I think. yea nice
sorry I cant clearly mod your map because it is really good seriously, well done.
Thanks you!

:)
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Topic Starter
LMT

Bakari wrote:

alm i the only one thinking that kiais in normal are too have for the easiest difficuly?
I'm going to ask around a bit, I am not sure about that myself.

updated BOUYAAA's diff
Okoratu

BOUYAAA wrote:

Bonsai wrote:

get ready to be nerdinated 8-)
I think LMT is busy responding to REAL mods why don't you take a look at https://osu.ppy.sh/s/545156 meanwhile???

Edit : mod my map
ok

[bouyaaa]
00:32:416 (4,5) - linear movement kinda plays lol compared to all the angled movements you have
00:58:666 (3) - gj offscreen
00:33:823 (4,5,6) - patterns like these kinda just use that sliderends are lenient to a level i just can't get to appreciate, mainly because the rest of the map except for these few patterns doesn't use sliders in this way they stand out so much comparatively to the rest of the section
01:16:948 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - vs 02:46:948 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - o.O why so much fewer circles in the beginning
02:52:573 (1,2,3,4) - the way you spaced this the first iteration around is better imo
01:52:885 (5,6,1) - emphasis is on big white in song
in map it's blue by a huge margin
01:54:448 (1,2,3,4) - 02:04:448 (1,2,3,4) - not doing the 1/4 seemed nicer in the beginning
02:58:823 (2,3,1) - kinda feels odd because 1 doesn't clearly contrast movement like the other slider in first kiai did
03:20:698 (1) - 03:23:198 (1) - fit better as circles than extends because the soudn on their heads ends abrupt as opposed to the other sounds in the sections
04:21:635 (3,5) - would delete in accordance to 01:51:323 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

now i technically modded your map
which is great i love being technically correct

[another]
i like silent lonely nights as a concept better but whatever
00:19:135 (2,1) - can hide a bunch of the repeat arrow based on what skin you're using for a bit
00:58:979 (1,2,3) - copy paste pattern is not very representative of what song is doing
01:17:104 (2,4) - overlap way more than the rest of your patterns because you ran out of space
02:06:244 (3,4) - i think this is one of the only patterns in the map that do this with 02:12:182 (2,3) - you usually don't do this to 1/2 sliders so why start now
02:56:010 (4,1,2,3,4) - same thing i mentioned in silent lonely nights just a bit easier
03:34:448 (1) - is different from other melody instruments so mapping it the same way doesn't fit as nicely

[insane]
00:30:073 (4,5,1) - antijump doesn't play too nicely
02:55:854 (2,3,4,5,6) - triple into double kinda plays lol
03:19:448 (1,2) - 03:29:448 (1,2) - ignoring melody here hurts my soul
03:57:260 (2,3,4,1) - 04:07:885 (6,1) - etc suddenly sliderleniency abuse in comparison
04:18:198 (1,1,1,1) - last pattern of kiai clearly ends in the wrong place
comparatively to others

[mir]
nothing against mapping the thing every other diff has break
just hitsound it jesus
03:31:791 (5,1) - this is just so damn counter intuitive
03:35:698 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - i fear that this is needlessly cluttered for a hard
03:52:260 (2,3) - just looks like you ran out of space lol

normal kiais are too complex in terms of overlapping and rhythmic diversity to stand alone as lowest diff yes

lower half of the spread need smore work than the upper half so if i were you i would focus on that
along with hitsounding which can be pretty bland at times
also an easy would be cool

o/
Mir
fixed all but LMT can you hitsound what oko is talking about cuz idk :? https://puu.sh/wiVLA/909f8ce250.osu
Topic Starter
LMT

Okorin wrote:

[another]
i like silent lonely nights as a concept better but whatever
00:19:135 (2,1) - can hide a bunch of the repeat arrow based on what skin you're using for a bit fixed
00:58:979 (1,2,3) - copy paste pattern is not very representative of what song is doing made it a bit more unique
01:17:104 (2,4) - overlap way more than the rest of your patterns because you ran out of space fixed
02:06:244 (3,4) - i think this is one of the only patterns in the map that do this with 02:12:182 (2,3) - you usually don't do this to 1/2 sliders so why start now change 00:33:198 (1,2,3) - to similar with 02:06:244 (3,4) -
02:56:010 (4,1,2,3,4) - same thing i mentioned in silent lonely nights just a bit easier I changed it in top diff since it plays terribly, not quite the same case with this imo.
03:34:448 (1) - is different from other melody instruments so mapping it the same way doesn't fit as nicely not really, it's the crash cymbal which is also present here

[insane]
00:30:073 (4,5,1) - antijump doesn't play too nicely spaced them a bit more
02:55:854 (2,3,4,5,6) - triple into double kinda plays lol I don't think so, there's the buffer time from the repeat for the player to read it.
03:19:448 (1,2) - 03:29:448 (1,2) - ignoring melody here hurts my soul added a 1/4 note for both
03:57:260 (2,3,4,1) - 04:07:885 (6,1) - etc suddenly sliderleniency abuse in comparison 02:51:948 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 03:37:260 (3,4,5) - these things kinda qualify for slider leniency abuse too? It's getting near the end so I think I could afford to make things a bit harder
04:18:198 (1,1,1,1) - last pattern of kiai clearly ends in the wrong place
comparatively to others 04:20:698 (1) - it ends here though? Unless I didn't get what you mean.


normal kiais are too complex in terms of overlapping and rhythmic diversity to stand alone as lowest diff yes

lower half of the spread need smore work than the upper half so if i were you i would focus on that
along with hitsounding which can be pretty bland at times
also an easy would be cool

o/
Thanks a lot! Would appreciate it if you pointed out what's not so interesting in lower diffs tho :(
Wishkey
Yow
Dunno if you got the album version aswell but its maybe a bit better on the instrument side then the current audio so just in case https://puu.sh/wlX51/6d4bb09974.mp3

gl mate!

edit: remove kd mate
Topic Starter
LMT

Wishkey wrote:

Yow
Dunno if you got the album version aswell but its maybe a bit better on the instrument side then the current audio so just in case https://puu.sh/wlX51/6d4bb09974.mp3

gl mate!
Oh actually the percussions sound cleaner in this version, thanks!
Halfslashed
[Easy]
00:25:616 (1) - I hate to say it, but sliders like this are probably too hard to read for Easy level players, due to how obscured the slider border is, which makes it hard to follow the path. You'll probably need to use a more straightforward curve for these, sadly- but you can use an "off" looking arc in place of them, something like this.
00:26:866 (1) - I think NCs like this are unnecessary and inconsistent with your normal NC patterning.
00:57:491 (4) - Can't really see why this is a 1/1 slider when 00:54:991 (2) - is a circle. I suggest making it a circle to stay consistent, since there isn't much of a change here.
01:13:116 (1,3) - Mir would have your head for these slider shapes, you know. I don't really care though, just kinda found them funny.
01:06:866 (3,4) - This rhythm is also inconsistent with 01:04:366 (3) - without much changing in the song. I suggest using a 1/1 repeat here instead.
02:05:616 (1) - 02:08:116 (1) - More examples of unintuitive slider shapes for this level of play.

You should've called THIS the cool slider diff, lol. Good luck!
Mir

Halfslashed wrote:

[Easy]
01:13:116 (1,3) - Mir would have your head for these slider shapes, you know. I don't really care though, just kinda found them funny.
yo those look fine what are you implying >:
Topic Starter
LMT

Halfslashed wrote:

[Easy]
00:25:616 (1) - I hate to say it, but sliders like this are probably too hard to read for Easy level players, due to how obscured the slider border is, which makes it hard to follow the path. You'll probably need to use a more straightforward curve for these, sadly- but you can use an "off" looking arc in place of them, something like this. yo if i knew those sliders weren't rankable i wouldn't map them, let's see how it goes. lol rip cool schleiders
00:26:866 (1) - I think NCs like this are unnecessary and inconsistent with your normal NC patterning. fixed
00:57:491 (4) - Can't really see why this is a 1/1 slider when 00:54:991 (2) - is a circle. I suggest making it a circle to stay consistent, since there isn't much of a change here. fixed slider -> circle
01:13:116 (1,3) - Mir would have your head for these slider shapes, you know. I don't really care though, just kinda found them funny. xD
01:06:866 (3,4) - This rhythm is also inconsistent with 01:04:366 (3) - without much changing in the song. I suggest using a 1/1 repeat here instead. rhythm would be too dense otherwise, also the song is a bit different too
02:05:616 (1) - 02:08:116 (1) - More examples of unintuitive slider shapes for this level of play. SV is low enough though

You should've called THIS the cool slider diff, lol. Good luck! :D
Thanks for the mod!
BOUYAAA
mp3 got changed now this mod is a puzzle

Okorin wrote:

[bouyaaa]
00:32:416 (4,5) - linear movement kinda plays lol compared to all the angled movements you have spacing is so low it barely even matters
00:58:666 (3) - gj offscreen used to be my style
00:33:823 (4,5,6) - patterns like these kinda just use that sliderends are lenient to a level i just can't get to appreciate, mainly because the rest of the map except for these few patterns doesn't use sliders in this way they stand out so much comparatively to the rest of the section abusing liniency but still ez to play
01:16:948 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - vs 02:46:948 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - o.O why so much fewer circles in the beginningme too
02:52:573 (1,2,3,4) - the way you spaced this the first iteration around is better imo^
01:52:885 (5,6,1) - emphasis is on big white in song
in map it's blue by a huge margin ^
01:54:448 (1,2,3,4) - 02:04:448 (1,2,3,4) - not doing the 1/4 seemed nicer in the beginning this one really confusing
02:58:823 (2,3,1) - kinda feels odd because 1 doesn't clearly contrast movement like the other slider in first kiai did nicht verstanden
03:20:698 (1) - 03:23:198 (1) - fit better as circles than extends because the soudn on their heads ends abrupt as opposed to the other sounds in the sections they follow the guitar chord
04:21:635 (3,5) - would delete in accordance to 01:51:323 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

now i technically modded your map
which is great i love being technically correct technically this is part of LMT's set which makes it lmt's map so to be sure i'd still mod the map i linked you never know
technically not my map
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Topic Starter
LMT

BOUYAAA wrote:

technically not my map
OI
0109-
m4m back
không biết mod mấy diff đầu lắm nên nói qua về cái cuối ạ...
ihgin ylenol tenelis
  1. 00:17:803 (2) – sao không cho stack luôn hay là tách ra hẳn đi chứ để kiểu này làm gì
  2. 00:25:616 (1) – không hiểu lắm nhưng map dùng khá nhiều kiểu slider phức tạp mà không cần thiết trong khi tiếng nó không thay đổi dập dềnh đến mức đó nên thường bị kêu là overmapped, khác với một số kiểu như 00:31:866 (1) – thì tiếng nó còn hơi rung rung
  3. 00:35:616 (1) – sao tự nhiên cảm thấy cái slider thẳng ở đây trông không phù hợp lắm :| , nếu để cong lên trong đẹp mắt hơn và flow ổn hơn, với cả xung quanh cũng chả thấy slider thẳng nào cũng thấy kì lắm
  4. 00:36:553 (5,6) – tiếng rít đằng sau không to đến mức mà để spacing to đến mức này, trong khi cái này 00:37:491 (4,5) – thì bé hơn
  5. 00:40:303 (7,8) – để 2 cái này tách hẳn ra ngoài thì kết thúc đẹp hơn, tiếng cái 00:40:459 (8) – cũng đi lên, tội gì stack hết vào thế này.
  6. Ầy đoạn vocal mix rhythm loạn quá @@, không chắc về cách theo rhythm kiểu này nhưng chắc ổn…
  7. 01:27:178 (1,1,1) - ầy thay sv ở đây cảm thấy thừa quá, lại còn nhanh dần kiểu này ngược lại so với pitch của vocal, nếu chỗ này làm build up để lên kiai thì ít nhất không nên để cái sv của 01:27:803 (1) – cao hơn khi giọng hạ xuống, với cả lại còn cao hơn hẳn kiai thì lại càng không phù hợp @@
  8. 01:37:178 (1,1) – slider ở đây phí quá sao không làm jump. Mà NC ở đây cũng không cần thiết lắm, nên bỏ cả 2 cái NC đi hoặc bỏ cái 01:37:491 (1) – nếu quyết định giữ pattern, chỉ cần một cái NC trước để báo hiệu map theo violin là ổn rồi
  9. 01:50:616 (1) – Spacing ở đây to quá rồi so với ar, để nhỏ lại chút đi cũng không ảnh hưởng gì mà, thậm chí kiểu này cũng đủ để emphasise cái vocal có pitch đi xuống
  10. 02:21:866 (1,2,3,4,1) – việc cố reflect nhạc này hoàn toàn không phù hợp với cả những chỗ dịu dịu (so với cả bài) thế này bởi rhythm đang quá loãng, nên để chung ds và có thể để cái 02:22:178 (1) – thành kickslider emphasis đoạn trống to sau thì ổn hơn.
  11. 03:14:209 (1) – Lại về việc slider shape dị không phù hợp ạ :( , cả 03:14:834 (1) – cũng thế. Tiện xem đến đoạn này mới thấy cái này không consistent với 01:44:834 (1) – nhưng với 03:54:834 (1) – thì lại có :|.
  12. 03:24:366 (1) – awgekuusdhfksfagd.;lcmmaoei
Cảm thấy bất an về cái diff quá, nhìn placement không ưng mắt lắm, không hay mod về placement nhiều nên cũng không biết nên sửa thế nào :(

aayuoB
  1. 00:06:866 (3) – the pitch of the piano completely went down which would worth some spacing here as you did at 00:16:866 (3) –
  2. 01:30:616 (1) – I’m not sure that placing weird sliders at places like straight voice is a good idea since it usually counted as overmapped

doog kcul
Topic Starter
LMT

0109- wrote:

m4m back
không biết mod mấy diff đầu lắm nên nói qua về cái cuối ạ...
ihgin ylenol tenelis
  1. 00:17:803 (2) – sao không cho stack luôn hay là tách ra hẳn đi chứ để kiểu này làm gì đhs bị lệch luôn
  2. 00:25:616 (1) – không hiểu lắm nhưng map dùng khá nhiều kiểu slider phức tạp mà không cần thiết trong khi tiếng nó không thay đổi dập dềnh đến mức đó nên thường bị kêu là overmapped, khác với một số kiểu như 00:31:866 (1) – thì tiếng nó còn hơi rung rung violin rõ là căng mà có gì đâu overmap?
  3. 00:35:616 (1) – sao tự nhiên cảm thấy cái slider thẳng ở đây trông không phù hợp lắm :| , nếu để cong lên trong đẹp mắt hơn và flow ổn hơn, với cả xung quanh cũng chả thấy slider thẳng nào cũng thấy kì lắm f
  4. 00:36:553 (5,6) – tiếng rít đằng sau không to đến mức mà để spacing to đến mức này, trong khi cái này 00:37:491 (4,5) – thì bé hơn f
  5. 00:40:303 (7,8) – để 2 cái này tách hẳn ra ngoài thì kết thúc đẹp hơn, tiếng cái 00:40:459 (8) – cũng đi lên, tội gì stack hết vào thế này. ok
  6. Ầy đoạn vocal mix rhythm loạn quá @@, không chắc về cách theo rhythm kiểu này nhưng chắc ổn… lol k sao đâu
  7. 01:27:178 (1,1,1) - ầy thay sv ở đây cảm thấy thừa quá, lại còn nhanh dần kiểu này ngược lại so với pitch của vocal, nếu chỗ này làm build up để lên kiai thì ít nhất không nên để cái sv của 01:27:803 (1) – cao hơn khi giọng hạ xuống, với cả lại còn cao hơn hẳn kiai thì lại càng không phù hợp @@ ko theo pitch nhưng theo intensity chung, ở đâu nó build up vào kiai mà?
  8. 01:37:178 (1,1) – slider ở đây phí quá sao không làm jump. Mà NC ở đây cũng không cần thiết lắm, nên bỏ cả 2 cái NC đi hoặc bỏ cái 01:37:491 (1) – nếu quyết định giữ pattern, chỉ cần một cái NC trước để báo hiệu map theo violin là ổn rồi theo cái violin, circle hết thì ko theo tốt đc.
  9. 01:50:616 (1) – Spacing ở đây to quá rồi so với ar, để nhỏ lại chút đi cũng không ảnh hưởng gì mà, thậm chí kiểu này cũng đủ để emphasise cái vocal có pitch đi xuống thế này hợp hơn
  10. 02:21:866 (1,2,3,4,1) – việc cố reflect nhạc này hoàn toàn không phù hợp với cả những chỗ dịu dịu (so với cả bài) thế này bởi rhythm đang quá loãng, nên để chung ds và có thể để cái 02:22:178 (1) – thành kickslider emphasis đoạn trống to sau thì ổn hơn. đoạn transition này để giới thiệu concept + mà rhythm mấy chỗ dồn này thì phải tăng chứ?
  11. 03:14:209 (1) – Lại về việc slider shape dị không phù hợp ạ :( , cả 03:14:834 (1) – cũng thế. Tiện xem đến đoạn này mới thấy cái này không consistent với 01:44:834 (1) – nhưng với 03:54:834 (1) – thì lại có :|. cả kiai được câu này unique thì lại ko emphasise thì làm gì =_= 01:44:834 (1) - ban đầu là định để thế này với cái loop thì đẹp nhưng mà đổi chút cho consistent
  12. 03:24:366 (1) – awgekuusdhfksfagd.;lcmmaoei ???
Cảm thấy bất an về cái diff quá, nhìn placement không ưng mắt lắm, không hay mod về placement nhiều nên cũng không biết nên sửa thế nào :(
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thanks for the mod!!
-Mo-
Yo

General
- A tag on Mir's is broken.
- BOUYAAA's using different combo colours for some reason.
- Widescreen storyboard is inconsistent across difficulties, you can turn them all on or all off.
- drum_hitnormal2.wav should use a hyphen, not an underscore.
- 00:43:116 - The break buffer should be here, it seems to be unsnapped on most diffs.
- I feel like the hitsound volumes on the kiais could be a little bit louder.

Easy
- 00:25:616 (1,2) - 00:35:616 (1,2) - These seem to be missing hitsounds.
- 00:29:366 (3) - I think you can improve this slider shape, it doesn't really look smooth all the way through. Try to keep the white nodes in the middle of other nodes. - 00:57:491 (4) - Missing clap.
- 01:46:553 (2) - 02:50:616 (1) - 03:16:553 (2) - 03:19:366 (3) - Similar thing about the slider shape with these, part of the curve looks pretty unbalanced. There's probably more of these when you copy-pasted them that you could fix.
- 01:59:366 (1) - I don't think an NC is needed here.
- 02:28:116 (5) - NC should be here, the current combo is too long.

Normal
- 00:08:741 (2,4) - These don't need offsetting since they're far enough apart in time for it to not matter.
- 00:56:866 - I'm not sure about missing this downbeat especially with this amound of a gap in the music since it makes following the rhythm a little more ambiguous. At least a circle to cover it should be fine.
- 00:59:991 - I would try to map this snare if possible. Maybe shorten this slider and add a 1/2 slider after it?
- 02:03:116 (1,2,3,4) - Kind of a weird flow here, try make it so there path through 2-3-4 is a smooth one following the curve similar to 02:05:616 (1,2,3,4)?
- 02:16:866 -02:26:866 - Downbeat thing.
- 02:45:928 (6) - NC should be here I think.
- 03:25:616 (1) - Minor thing, this should be at about (264, 127) to make the triangle perfect.
- 04:23:116 (1) - This seems easier than easy huh.

I don't think it would hurt trying to increase the difficulty of this diff slightly so that the spread between Normal-Hard is a little better. The difference in note density is pretty vast I think.

Mir's Hard
- 00:24:522 - 01:57:022 - I hear a violin note on the red tick do it might be worth shortening these sliders to land on them.
- 01:51:241 (2,3,4) - I think these should be extended to the next blue tick since I hear a notes going onto them.
- 02:16:241 (1,2) - All other 1/4 sliders used in this map so far point back into the next object, where as these don't and have an extra reverse on them, so it could be confusing to read how long they reverse for.
- 03:54:991 (4,5,1) - Spacing is uneven here.
- 04:21:241 (2,3,4) - Reverse slider thing again.

Insane
- 00:35:616 (1) - Minor thing, I would probably nudge this to the right slider so there's an even gap between 00:34:991 (3,4,1). You could probably do a similar thing with 00:36:866 (1).
- 01:05:616 - I don't think it's a good idea to miss the downbeat here. Even if you're emphasising the vocals here, you previously mapped to the guitar, which this goes against and feels very out of place.
- 01:47:959 (6) - The stack is off if that's intentional or not.
- 02:57:178 (3) - Maybe NC here? I think it would fit since the vocals get reintroduced and you've stopped using more complex rhythms.
- 03:57:803 (4,1) - I don't think this sort of flow is really a good idea. There's a lot of extra strain on the player since they have to quickly snap from the repeating slider to the next slider head, then start moving back the way they came from. It seems like a pretty big spike in what you've given the player so far and I don't think it's really necessary. Making it so slider 1 starts moving in some sort of direction upwards would fix this.
- 04:04:209 - Maybe convert this slider into two circles so that this cymbal sound is mapped to an active beat.
- 04:11:553 (4,1) - Minor thing, this stack is off if you care about that.

Another
- 00:35:303 (5,1) - Minor stack thing.

This diff is cool.

BOUYAAA's Extra is cool too.

Silent Lonely Nights
- 00:23:428 - 01:55:928 - You've mapped violin notes to active beats, and I feel like this one could also be active too if you shortened the slider.
- 00:59:991 - Seems to be missing a clap.
- 01:10:616 - Is the NC spam necessary in this section? I feel like it isn't really needed. At the vert least these first ones could be removed since I can sort of see why you would use them for the build up before 01:13:116.
- 01:18:116 - NC stuff again if you do change it.
- 01:36:553 (4,1) - Minor stack thing.
- 02:09:053 (4,5) - Minor thing, these could be the same shape since they're slightly off right now.
- 02:18:741 (4) - This seems to be wrongly snapped. I think it's supposed to end on the white tick.
- 02:35:303 - 02:45:303 - It doesn't seem like a good idea to extend this slider to miss this beat here to me.
- 03:19:834 (3,4) - I'd maybe increase this spacing a little more to emphasise the increasing pitch better, and so it's more on par with 03:18:428 (2,3,4).

Top diffs seem pretty cool, just some polishing needed on the lower diffs I feel, and the N-H spread could be a little better.
Topic Starter
LMT

-Mo- wrote:

Yo

General
- A tag on Mir's is broken. took me 5 mins to fix it, blame Arabic lmao
- BOUYAAA's using different combo colours for some reason. I'll leave BOUYAAA to respond to this but don't think it is necessary to be consistent with all other diffs
- Widescreen storyboard is inconsistent across difficulties, you can turn them all on or all off. fixed
- drum_hitnormal2.wav should use a hyphen, not an underscore. fixed, also idk how i didn't notice this.
- 00:43:116 - The break buffer should be here, it seems to be unsnapped on most diffs. fixed
- I feel like the hitsound volumes on the kiais could be a little bit louder. I tried that but didn't like it, could possibly ask for more opinions on this.

Easy
- 00:25:616 (1,2) - 00:35:616 (1,2) - These seem to be missing hitsounds. yup, i replaced some sliders previously and forgot to add hitsounds back.
- 00:29:366 (3) - I think you can improve this slider shape, it doesn't really look smooth all the way through. Try to keep the white nodes in the middle of other nodes. fixed- 00:57:491 (4) - Missing clap. yes
- 01:46:553 (2) - 02:50:616 (1) - 03:16:553 (2) - 03:19:366 (3) - Similar thing about the slider shape with these, part of the curve looks pretty unbalanced. There's probably more of these when you copy-pasted them that you could fix. tried to improve those overall, they were replacements for previously unrankable slider concepts.
- 01:59:366 (1) - I don't think an NC is needed here. blame copypaste
- 02:28:116 (5) - NC should be here, the current combo is too long. yup

Normal
- 00:08:741 (2,4) - These don't need offsetting since they're far enough apart in time for it to not matter. sure
- 00:56:866 - I'm not sure about missing this downbeat especially with this amound of a gap in the music since it makes following the rhythm a little more ambiguous. At least a circle to cover it should be fine. but that would make the vocal less unique, also that large gap is part of making newer players more aware of the approach circle.
- 00:59:991 - I would try to map this snare if possible. Maybe shorten this slider and add a 1/2 slider after it? that would make the rhythm too dense in this section, also clicking on offbeat 1/2 slider without a proper concept here plays poorly for newer players.
- 02:03:116 (1,2,3,4) - Kind of a weird flow here, try make it so there path through 2-3-4 is a smooth one following the curve similar to 02:05:616 (1,2,3,4)? did something about it
- 02:16:866 -02:26:866 - Downbeat thing. as explained
- 02:45:928 (6) - NC should be here I think. yea
- 03:25:616 (1) - Minor thing, this should be at about (264, 127) to make the triangle perfect. yes
- 04:23:116 (1) - This seems easier than easy huh. fixed it to be as hard as Easy.

I don't think it would hurt trying to increase the difficulty of this diff slightly so that the spread between Normal-Hard is a little better. The difference in note density is pretty vast I think. I will try to do something about it, although the kiais on Normal is rhythmically complex enough to make the gap between N-H.



Insane
- 00:35:616 (1) - Minor thing, I would probably nudge this to the right slider so there's an even gap between 00:34:991 (3,4,1). You could probably do a similar thing with 00:36:866 (1). nice
- 01:05:616 - I don't think it's a good idea to miss the downbeat here. Even if you're emphasising the vocals here, you previously mapped to the guitar, which this goes against and feels very out of place. the downbeat is not really strong here and I want to emphasise the vocals a bit more, also (2,3) was intended to be in the same pattern but not (1) because of the vocals.
- 01:47:959 (6) - The stack is off if that's intentional or not. fixed
- 02:57:178 (3) - Maybe NC here? I think it would fit since the vocals get reintroduced and you've stopped using more complex rhythms. yes
- 03:57:803 (4,1) - I don't think this sort of flow is really a good idea. There's a lot of extra strain on the player since they have to quickly snap from the repeating slider to the next slider head, then start moving back the way they came from. It seems like a pretty big spike in what you've given the player so far and I don't think it's really necessary. Making it so slider 1 starts moving in some sort of direction upwards would fix this. ctrl+g'd the 1/1 slider and adjusted
- 04:04:209 - Maybe convert this slider into two circles so that this cymbal sound is mapped to an active beat. that kinda kills the emphasis on the extended vocals I was trying to follow.
- 04:11:553 (4,1) - Minor thing, this stack is off if you care about that. not sure what happened to my stacks tbh.

Another
- 00:35:303 (5,1) - Minor stack thing. yes

This diff is cool.

Silent Lonely Nights
- 00:23:428 - 01:55:928 - You've mapped violin notes to active beats, and I feel like this one could also be active too if you shortened the slider. fixed both
- 00:59:991 - Seems to be missing a clap. yes
- 01:10:616 - Is the NC spam necessary in this section? I feel like it isn't really needed. At the vert least these first ones could be removed since I can sort of see why you would use them for the build up before 01:13:116. thought was just to make it stands out a bit more, but since the map already has quite a bit of NC spamming I removed them and restructured how NC works in those sections.
- 01:18:116 - NC stuff again if you do change it. ^
- 01:36:553 (4,1) - Minor stack thing. yes
- 02:09:053 (4,5) - Minor thing, these could be the same shape since they're slightly off right now. not sure what happened lol
- 02:18:741 (4) - This seems to be wrongly snapped. I think it's supposed to end on the white tick. it's the vocals, which is what I want to focus quite a bit in this section
- 02:35:303 - 02:45:303 - It doesn't seem like a good idea to extend this slider to miss this beat here to me. it's the vocals again.
- 03:19:834 (3,4) - I'd maybe increase this spacing a little more to emphasise the increasing pitch better, and so it's more on par with 03:18:428 (2,3,4). yea

Top diffs seem pretty cool, just some polishing needed on the lower diffs I feel, and the N-H spread could be a little better.
Thank you for the mod, really appreciate it!
BOUYAAA
aayuoB
  1. 00:06:866 (3) – the pitch of the piano completely went down which would worth some spacing here as you did at 00:16:866 (3) – e
  2. 01:30:616 (1) – I’m not sure that placing weird sliders at places like straight voice is a good idea since it usually counted as overmapped so much nonsense in one sentence
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also i prefer my combo colors so i'll keep if possible

Thanks for the -Mods-!!!!!
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Yamicchi
was thinking of opening the mod with fancy words, ended up saying hi
geez

[Easy]
• 00:03:428 (4,5) - Quèo, có thể né overlap, mà nếu muốn giữ overlap thì sao không cho 00:02:491 (3,4,5) - thẳng hàng nhau nhỉ :v
• 00:08:116 - thêm hitfin nghe cũng không tới nổi tệ
• 00:11:241 (2,3,4) - Sao không copypasta 1 cái, rotate 60* để cho nó ra cái hình tam giác đẹp đẹp nhỉ? Nếu là để 2 cái slider đầu giống nhau vì âm giống thì yami nghĩ làm cả 3 giống nhau cũng kh tệ đâu
• 01:50:616 (1) - Ơ sao off grid thế này :v
• 03:46:553 (2) - Shape lệch dữ, mấy cái slider làm đẹp lắm mà
• Mấy cái slider kiểu như 03:59:053 (2,2) - từ đầu bài tới cuối bài, nếu được thì LMT polish nó lại tí, nhìn thô lắm á. Cong cũng không hoàn toàn cong, S shape thì nhiều khi méo nữa :C
[Normal]
• Trông cái gap E N H nó không được đều lắm nhỉ
• 00:03:428 (1) - Hơi méo lên trên tí nè :v
• 00:05:616 (1,1) - 00:18:116 (1) - Cái đầu tiên cũng hơi bị méo á, lmt check lại nhe
• 00:39:991 (4) - cũng nên cho nó cong theo, nhìn nó thẳng vầy hơi kì
• 02:09:366 (1) - unnecessary NC
• 03:32:491 (4) - Đoạn này lmt kh map giống 03:29:991 (4,5) - à?
• 04:07:803 (3) - Cái này hình như không song song với 04:07:491 (2) - phải không, nhìn nguyên hàng méo cái nhận ra ngay :C
• 04:17:803 (6) - Cuối bài thì cho chút intensity vào cũng được vậy :v làm cho 04:18:116 - clickable thử
[Mir <3]
• 00:24:366 (1) - you're not making this spacing bigger as you did for 00:21:866 (1,1) - ?
• 00:40:459 (1) - If you're intending to stack with (4) sliderend, it's 1 grid off tho
• 01:48:116 (1,2,3,4) - After a long chain of 1/2, even with lower SV, some would still misread this as 1/2 too so, just adding a bit more of spacing would do the trick
• 02:16:241 (1,2,3) - simplifying stuffs is good, but any way to warn people that these are multiple reverse slider? It's kinda surprised tho
• 02:53:116 (1) - Increasing spacing for this a bit would work too imo
• 03:02:491 (3,4,5) - this works better I think http://puu.sh/wAtE2/d93c976b5c.jpg. I mean why did you map 03:02:647 - ?
• 03:42:959 (5) - was this clap intentional? It sounds weird, you didn't use clap here in the previous kiais also
[Insane]
• 00:18:116 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Cái đoạn này sao không cho SV hoặc volume tăng dần lên nhỉ? Đang chậm mà 00:20:616 (1) - xuất hiện nhanh bất ngờ quá
• 00:25:303 (4,5,1) - Linear flow với consistent spacing, kiểu như lmt không hề có ý emphasize 00:25:616 (1) - hả?
• 00:33:662 - so với 00:23:584 (2) - thì sao chỗ này lmt không map 1/4 :d ?
• 00:39:991 (4,5,1) - cục này làm thành 4 cái circles flow vuông thì đẹp owo, slider có vẻ yếu
• 01:50:616 (1) - intensity của circle này cũng đâu có quá mạnh, spacing vầy có hơi bất ngờ á. nói nhỏ chứ Yami cực kì không thích cái spacing quá đà kiểu này ;v;
• 03:17:178 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - ý tưởng hay nhưng cần phải polish lại tí :v http://puu.sh/wAu3i/0b9e74a50c.jpg

Please polish the set, bye :knife:
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