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Aurele
Bubbled mapset

Moved to Pending as it was in WIP
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Pata-Mon

Gabe wrote:

Bubbled mapset

Moved to Pending as it was in WIP
lol thanks
Sonnyc
xxdeathx's Yuri.
00:01:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:04:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:07:015 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:16:958 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:19:700 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:22:443 (1,2,3,4,5) - Take a look on these parts. Every sections are a similar "yuri blah" vocals, and you've maintained a consistent rhythm. But that was all, nothing more than that. Every patterns were showing a different mapping concept starting from curve - linear rotation to slider mirrors, or even parallels. Such diversity felt too much to create any variation, but rather felt like an inconsistency which wasn't forming a good structure along the consistent music line.
00:03:586 (1,2,3,4) - 00:06:329 (1,2,3,4) - 00:09:072 (1,2,3,4) - 01:19:015 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:758 (1,2,3,4) - 01:24:500 (1,2,3,4) - Same structure issue on these too if you understood my point on the first one. The overall flow feels like a zigzag, but the techniques weren't giving a consistent experience to create a structure on these parts. Square formation? Triangle? ctrl+G based zigzags? any consistent spacing concepts behind the placements? Couldn't really feel things being polished enough.
00:09:758 (1,2,1,2) - 01:25:186 (1,2,1,2) - You've mantained a consistent symmetric mapping concept at the consistent part of the music. This was a good structure.
00:31:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - At here, you've quite made a zigzag flow based on a pentagon. 00:37:186 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here (which is a similar music part), the flow concept itself is somewhat similar but I don't really see what formation this placements are based on. At least I can't tell it was a pentagon, or even a polygon. This wasn't a good structure.
00:48:500 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - You'll want to strongly reconsider about this strong jumps. The scale of the jump felt too exaggerated compared to the intensity of this part of the song. Another similar consecutive jump usage I could found in this map was at 00:26:215 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) which had a smaller scale. While that jump felt to be supported by the music, 00:48:500 (1,2,1,2,1,2) having an even bigger jump didn't felt right in terms of the internal structure of the map while using the concept of a jump itself was okay to create a pressure.
00:51:415 - Try checking the kiai section by yourself along the overall structure concept I've provided at the previous mod lines. Think about the slider shape selections or mapping concept selections comparing by each mapping sections. Ask yourself why 00:59:129 (1) was an anchored shape, how it had a relation of song with 01:05:986 (1) where you've used that shape again. Why was 01:08:729 (1,3,1) all a similar wave slider while 00:57:758 (1,3,1) is having a very different concept?

While individual objects looked like a map in technical terms, the structures didn't really correlated very much with the song which I didn't considered high quality. Popping over quality concerns.
xxdeathx
Thanks for bringing up your concerns; it's taken me a while to go through them.

Sonnyc wrote:

xxdeathx's Yuri.
00:01:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:04:272 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:07:015 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:16:958 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:19:700 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:22:443 (1,2,3,4,5) - Take a look on these parts. Every sections are a similar "yuri blah" vocals, and you've maintained a consistent rhythm. But that was all, nothing more than that. Every patterns were showing a different mapping concept starting from curve - linear rotation to slider mirrors, or even parallels. Such diversity felt too much to create any variation, but rather felt like an inconsistency which wasn't forming a good structure along the consistent music line.
00:03:586 (1,2,3,4) - 00:06:329 (1,2,3,4) - 00:09:072 (1,2,3,4) - 01:19:015 (1,2,3,4) - 01:21:758 (1,2,3,4) - 01:24:500 (1,2,3,4) - Same structure issue on these too if you understood my point on the first one. The overall flow feels like a zigzag, but the techniques weren't giving a consistent experience to create a structure on these parts. Square formation? Triangle? ctrl+G based zigzags? any consistent spacing concepts behind the placements? Couldn't really feel things being polished enough. "Such diversity felt too much to create any variation" - what does this mean? Is this not what variation means? In any case, it sounds like you don't like how the objects are placed differently at each corresponding part in the song. You haven't offered an alternative from which I can derive a sense of your ideal intentions, so I'll try my best to address what I think you are getting at. To begin with, I don't believe the current inconsistencies are as bad as you would have us believe. As you already noticed, the rhythm is already the same for each part. In addition, the only slider shapes used are straight or curved sliders. The sliders and circles are placed differently each time because I introduced enough variation such that the flow and cursor movement are somewhat different from pattern to pattern, but none are particularly distinct or more uncomfortable than any other so that the overall feeling of these parts doesn't change while avoiding the same patterns over and over. If you feel this is inconsistent, short of copying the same patterns every time to reuse, there's not much you can do here. Placing every group of 4 sliders and 5 circles in the same way in the name of consistency would frankly be quite boring and repetitive. Since this alone is unlikely to convince you any differently based on the nature of your criticism and that it relies on existing information, I'll try to explain my thought process for these parts. In general, for most of my jump patterns, the consistent spacing concept I am trying to enforce is larger spacing before a white tick than before a red tick when the emphasis is on the white ticks. The overall placement of the objects relative to each other matters less as long as the spacing adheres to this, but when I do the placement I try to follow as many of these concepts as possible when I map: stack with another object, evenly placed between two previously placed objects, form polygon with previously placed objects, acute angle between previous and next object, form symmetry with previously placed objects—and for pretty much every pattern I am able to explain my reasoning behind it using at least one of these. In following these concepts the final shape that any pattern takes does not have to be identical as long as it flows in a similar fashion (mainly acute angles). I have changed some jump patterns and slider placements to better reflect this, but again the shape formation is less important than the spacing.
00:09:758 (1,2,1,2) - 01:25:186 (1,2,1,2) - You've mantained a consistent symmetric mapping concept at the consistent part of the music. This was a good structure.
00:31:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - At here, you've quite made a zigzag flow based on a pentagon. 00:37:186 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here (which is a similar music part), the flow concept itself is somewhat similar but I don't really see what formation this placements are based on. At least I can't tell it was a pentagon, or even a polygon. This wasn't a good structure. Again, the focus is more on ensuring that the relative spacing of objects within a single pattern accurately reflects the emphasis of the song
00:48:500 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - You'll want to strongly reconsider about this strong jumps. The scale of the jump felt too exaggerated compared to the intensity of this part of the song. Another similar consecutive jump usage I could found in this map was at 00:26:215 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) which had a smaller scale. While that jump felt to be supported by the music, 00:48:500 (1,2,1,2,1,2) having an even bigger jump didn't felt right in terms of the internal structure of the map while using the concept of a jump itself was okay to create a pressure. I feel like the song using these 1/2 vocals to build pressure during this part as it goes into the chorus is trying to be pretty intense so that the increasing spacing after each circle is an adequate build up leading into the kiai time.
00:51:415 - Try checking the kiai section by yourself along the overall structure concept I've provided at the previous mod lines. Think about the slider shape selections or mapping concept selections comparing by each mapping sections. Ask yourself why 00:59:129 (1) was an anchored shape, how it had a relation of song with 01:05:986 (1) where you've used that shape again. Why was 01:08:729 (1,3,1) all a similar wave slider while 00:57:758 (1,3,1) is having a very different concept? The anchored shape I admit is inconsistent, but for 01:08:729 (1,3) - 00:57:758 (1,3) - I don't really consider wave sliders all that different from singular curved ones.

While individual objects looked like a map in technical terms, the structures didn't really correlated very much with the song which I didn't considered high quality. Popping over quality concerns.
I've made some changes where I described and welcomed the opportunity to discuss one of my difficulties in detail. It seems that your priorities and mine as far as structures go may lie in different areas, but let me know what you think.

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Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
Sonnyc has said “OK”:
https://puu.sh/vnaTP/bfb5e2ee12.png
Monstrata
Sorry for late. Repaired~
Kagetsu
[xxdeathx's Yuri]
  1. 00:28:443 (4,5) - i think it would be better to increase distance, so that it's consistent with 00:27:929 (2,3) - (which is representing the same i think)
  2. 00:49:529 (1,2) - i think you could've used more 1/2 beats instead of increasing the sv, it feels kinda weird that previous patterns were following vocals... then rhythm density is suddenly decreased :c
  3. 00:50:215 (1) - idk if you care, but this is super awkward to play, especially for players who can't spin 350+ , i personally can't get a 300 here with hr lol
  4. 01:16:272 (3) - feels extremely inconsistent, it ignores a lot of beats, also... the shape looks as if it was representing something especial in the music... but music hasn't really changed tbh
[Kencho's Insane]
  1. 01:02:558 (5,6) - 01:13:529 (5,6) - it doesn't make sense to reduce rhythm density on a diff like this, even the easier insanes are using active 1/4 so this is definitely not acceptable
[Doormat's Insane]
  1. its ok
[wkyik's Insane]
  1. 00:01:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i find this combo is a bit inconsistent compared to rest of the stuff going on there, not sure why... i would make it consistent but i don't really know the reasons behind those patterns so... whatever (same stuff happens at the ending tho 01:16:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - )
[Karen's Insane]
  1. 00:28:958 (1,2,3,4) - i don't really get why you're using two different time gaps in the same stack, it's confusing and also inconsistent compared to 00:34:443 (1,2,3,4) despite they representing the same stuff in the music
  2. i don't really agree with most of the stacks in the kiai stuff like 00:57:072 (3,4,5) - feels really out of place rhythmically and spacing-wise, those beats are really different and the way you're mapping them doesn't contrast between their intensities. idk... it looks that it was made to confuse people between 1/4 and 1/2 but it doesn't make much sense musically i'd say
[Insane]
  1. 00:43:358 (3,2) - not sure if this was supposed to be a stack lol
lower diffs are fine

stacks on karen's diff triggers me a lot >:( , not sure if he's willing to change them / provide a good reason to keep them so idk
Kencho

Kagetsu wrote:

[Kencho's Insane]
  1. 01:02:558 (5,6) - 01:13:529 (5,6) - it doesn't make sense to reduce rhythm density on a diff like this, even the easier insanes are using active 1/4 so this is definitely not acceptable
    tbh I just want no streams (circles more than 3) on my diff, and I focus on Aim more than Speed. Although easier insane diffs using circles, I don't think I need to use circles because my diff is difficult than the easy one. As you see Karen's and Pata-mon's has lot of stacks, but it doesn't mean I should using lot of stack too. Sorry for rejection.
Rizia
i agree!
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xxdeathx

Kagetsu wrote:

[xxdeathx's Yuri]
  1. 00:28:443 (4,5) - i think it would be better to increase distance, so that it's consistent with 00:27:929 (2,3) - (which is representing the same i think) i wouldn't say they're exactly the same since there is no clap on 00:28:443 (4) - . 00:28:100 (3,5) - are similar i guess. i tried to move it a little since there isn't much room to modify this part.
  2. 00:49:529 (1,2) - i think you could've used more 1/2 beats instead of increasing the sv, it feels kinda weird that previous patterns were following vocals... then rhythm density is suddenly decreased :c this part follows the song as it builds up pressure until where I interpret the section to end at 00:49:529 (1) - so it wouldn't make sense to continue the large jumps after that point
  3. 00:50:215 (1) - idk if you care, but this is super awkward to play, especially for players who can't spin 350+ , i personally can't get a 300 here with hr lol think it's doable. i tend to be more triggered by short gaps after spinners so i try to avoid those.
  4. 01:16:272 (3) - feels extremely inconsistent, it ignores a lot of beats, also... the shape looks as if it was representing something especial in the music... but music hasn't really changed tbh I wouldn't say it's inconsistent when there is no other part of the song similar to this. It is a unique, light part of the song that the slider shape can represent fairly and where I'd say it's okay to ignore some less significant notes.
stacks on karen's diff triggers me a lot >:( , not sure if he's willing to change them / provide a good reason to keep them so idk
Thanks Kagetsu!

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Karen
I agree that the stacks are quite confusing to read/play, but it's basically what i want to see with the stack concept in the whole map, the stacks in the kiai are following the drums, most people prefer jumps when it comes to strong beats but sometimes stacks are fun as well, well i know it's not a valid reason at all so i'll just give up on this diff, already asked the creator to delete it.
and i'm not satisfied with this diff too anyways
thanks for your check! :)
Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
fixed in Insane and all updated
Thanks for mod! :)

Edit: discuss with Karen and decide to readd his diff

https://puu.sh/vKhtZ/888e5b4224.png
Koiyuki
From my queue
过气歌还有人做啊
顺便求个摸啊靴靴 https://osu.ppy.sh/s/617120

kwannnnnnn
  1. 吐槽下干嘛不用1.0x非得用0.95x,凸显个性吗
zzzzzzzzzzzh
  1. 00:29:643 (2) - 00:31:015 (5) - 我觉得白线不下note下在两边的红线上各下一个note是不是更加fit the music啊
    kiai节奏下的太蠢了,差评
hard
  1. fine
@傻逼原来这么爽

  • 你tm SL开max?
  1. 00:05:472 (4,5,6) - ?? 打起来也不好看啊stack没顺着一条线
  2. 00:26:900 (5,6,7,8,1,1) - 看下堆叠效果,我感觉摆的不太好,manual stack搞一下吧
    light insane也太不走心了吧
insane
  1. 这图给我的感觉就是一路blanket和stack摆的,没啥问题,也没啥意思
rizia
  1. 00:17:643 (4,5,6,7) - 不该用whistle啊,这里就用note原来的声音就行了,whi有点喧宾夺主
  2. 00:21:929 (5) - nc?
  3. 00:28:443 (3) - nc?
  4. 00:39:929 (1,2,3) - 这段往左上移一点?另外这滑条有点难看
  5. 00:58:958 (4,6) - stack
  6. 01:01:186 (1) - remove nc
  7. 01:22:271 (10,1) - 摆个跳
    这图真的是你做的????难道是你十年前作品吗?
doormat
  1. nice diff
gugugu
  1. 00:12:158 (1,3) - swap nc?
  2. 01:26:558 (1,2,3,4) - 结尾放这个,你的良心呢?
xxdeathx
  1. 01:13:872 (5) - nc
IamKwaN
凸顯我八面玲瓏
Koiyuki

IamKwaN wrote:

凸顯我八面玲瓏
抱歉手滑点到kds上面去了
IamKwaN
你!吔屎去吧!

不過也好,姚明有錢
xxdeathx
newpage is mine~

for 01:13:872 (5) - i wouldn't want to NC it since 01:13:872 (5) - doesn't have NC either

thanks yuki (nice sisti avatar)
Rizia
00:28:443 (3,4) - 這個感覺nc不nc沒太大分別
01:22:271 (10,1) - 後面想對稱就算了
其他改了
另外這是我2013還是2014的圖 直接拉過來的
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Karen
差点又忘了
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Video,-50,"video.flv"
0,0,"BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Kencho

Koiyuki wrote:

gugugu
  1. 00:12:158 (1,3) - swap nc? gu!
  2. 01:26:558 (1,2,3,4) - 结尾放这个,你的良心呢?gugu, gugugugugu
gugugu's Insane
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Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
神tm 图坟了

normal改了 全部updated

谢谢yuki~
Koiyuki
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Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
谢谢~
Natsu
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xxdeathx

Pata-Mon wrote:

谢谢~
Natsu
btw I'll edit this today with a mod, took me a bit long, because of the qualify cap of 1 map per day, don't worry I didn't forgot about this

xxdeathx

  1. 00:11:300 (2,1,2) - they are grouped in the music, why they aren't grouped in the same combo in the map? like it makes no sense to have 00:10:958 (1,2) - in the same combo, since they aren't related to each other in the song.
  2. 00:25:872 (5) - shouldn't be this an extended slider as 00:24:500 (4) - since the music is similar at both place and having different rhythm at both similar situations is inconsistent
  3. 01:02:386 (4,1) - the NCs are wrongly placed, because of the wrong rhythm, the slider is ending at the start of the drums, also is super weird to play, since you are mapping the an active beat in the music as a pasive beat in the map.
Doormat's Insane

  1. 01:00:672 (2) - This is touching the HP bar, according to the RC you should avoid such things and tbh you have a lot of space in the grid to avoid this.
wkyik's Insane

  1. 00:14:900 (4) - the rhythm is wrong, if you notice it doesn't follow the main melody and it's inconsistent with your previous part and specially with 00:15:758 (3,4) - , I'd suggest doing something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8350527
  2. 00:17:986 (1) - no hitsound?, tbh I don't like your hitsounds, they start being too loud at the intro with all the normal-hitnormal, then after it you barely hear hitsounds other than some hit-whistles, I really hope you can copy them from other diff or reworks yours.
  3. 00:21:929 (1) - this slider is ending in a such strong beat, also it's a new measure and I don't think is right to have it as a pasive beat, you should rethink your rhythm here a bit more.
  4. 00:23:472 (1) - again no hitsound?, the weird think is that you're actually using one at the other same part in the music 00:24:843 (1) -
  5. 00:27:929 (1,2,3,4) - this is super weird to play, can you unstack them? or atleast NC 3?
  6. 00:29:472 (5) - again the rhythm sounds super weird, why did you decide to start a repeat slider in such weak beat, even if you are following the vocals there should be something click'able at the white tick, the easier solution is to make 00:29:300 (4,5) - 2 1/2 sliders
  7. 00:34:958 (5) - same as above
  8. 00:39:415 (6) - I find inconsistent how you're using a repeat slider here when at the same part of the song before you used circles 00:33:929 (6,7,8) -
  9. 00:53:643 (5) - missing NC, since you're using a NC every 1 stanza in the kiai
  10. 00:56:386 (4) - same
  11. 01:01:700 (6,1) - why the stronger beat has such low spacing, it doesn't makes sense with the song at all.
  12. 01:04:615 (4) - this also should be a NC
  13. Also your combo colors don't fit the BG
Hard

  1. mmmm you have like 5 insanes, that's why I don't understand why are you using a lot of complicated patterns in the hard diff?, stuff like 00:27:586 (1,1,2,1,2) - is really confused to plays for hard diff players (not the ones who double time them, the ones supposed to play them), 00:15:072 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - yeah probably would be a nice idea to don't use much triplets or huge jumps like 00:33:586 (2,3) - .
    IDK I just think that you could make something more simple, since you have a lot of insane diffs already.
Normal

  1. 00:29:643 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - train patterns aren't that comfortable to play, specially when they are really long, try to bring some 1/2 breaks between them.
  2. Also is super weird that all the first part in the map is super dense with 1/2s, but the kiai is a pure 1/1 spam
actually I'm not sure about this map, I'll check again after you guys are done checking this.
Doormat
fixed, thanks natsu~ https://drmt.s-ul.eu/FI43gji7
xxdeathx

Natsu wrote:

btw I'll edit this today with a mod, took me a bit long, because of the qualify cap of 1 map per day, don't worry I didn't forgot about this

xxdeathx

  1. 00:11:300 (2,1,2) - they are grouped in the music, why they aren't grouped in the same combo in the map? like it makes no sense to have 00:10:958 (1,2) - in the same combo, since they aren't related to each other in the song. removed some NC in this part
  2. 00:25:872 (5) - shouldn't be this an extended slider as 00:24:500 (4) - since the music is similar at both place and having different rhythm at both similar situations is inconsistent the vocals appear at slightly different parts there (blue tick and red tick) though it's a small thing
  3. 01:02:386 (4,1) - the NCs are wrongly placed, because of the wrong rhythm, the slider is ending at the start of the drums, also is super weird to play, since you are mapping the an active beat in the music as a pasive beat in the map. I'm strongly against using 1/2 sliders starting on red ticks except for following vocals. This area has a lot of conflicting sounds since the vocal starts on the red tick and the stream starts on white tick, but I'm following the vocals in the kiai section, and the NC is done to group vocals or every 2 beats together. the pattern is spaced such that the player knows the stream is immediately after the slider and can just keep alternating when playing.
actually I'm not sure about this map, I'll check again after you guys are done checking this.
thanks natsu!

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Rizia

Natsu wrote:

wkyik's Insane

  1. 00:14:900 (4) - the rhythm is wrong, if you notice it doesn't follow the main melody and it's inconsistent with your previous part and specially with 00:15:758 (3,4) - , I'd suggest doing something like: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8350527
  2. 00:17:986 (1) - no hitsound?, tbh I don't like your hitsounds, they start being too loud at the intro with all the normal-hitnormal, then after it you barely hear hitsounds other than some hit-whistles, I really hope you can copy them from other diff or reworks yours.
  3. 00:21:929 (1) - this slider is ending in a such strong beat, also it's a new measure and I don't think is right to have it as a pasive beat, you should rethink your rhythm here a bit more.
  4. 00:23:472 (1) - again no hitsound?, the weird think is that you're actually using one at the other same part in the music 00:24:843 (1) -
  5. 00:27:929 (1,2,3,4) - this is super weird to play, can you unstack them? or atleast NC 3?
  6. 00:29:472 (5) - again the rhythm sounds super weird, why did you decide to start a repeat slider in such weak beat, even if you are following the vocals there should be something click'able at the white tick, the easier solution is to make 00:29:300 (4,5) - 2 1/2 sliders
  7. 00:34:958 (5) - same as above
  8. 00:39:415 (6) - I find inconsistent how you're using a repeat slider here when at the same part of the song before you used circles 00:33:929 (6,7,8) -
  9. 00:53:643 (5) - missing NC, since you're using a NC every 1 stanza in the kiai
  10. 00:56:386 (4) - same
  11. 01:01:700 (6,1) - why the stronger beat has such low spacing, it doesn't makes sense with the song at all. but its nature imo
  12. 01:04:615 (4) - this also should be a NC
  13. Also your combo colors don't fit the BG
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others are fixed
thx

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TitleUnicode:ゆりゆららららゆるゆり大事件
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Topic Starter
Pata-Mon

Natsu wrote:

Hard

  1. mmmm you have like 5 insanes, that's why I don't understand why are you using a lot of complicated patterns in the hard diff?, stuff like 00:27:586 (1,1,2,1,2) - is really confused to plays for hard diff players (not the ones who double time them, the ones supposed to play them), 00:15:072 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - yeah probably would be a nice idea to don't use much triplets or huge jumps like 00:33:586 (2,3) - .
    IDK I just think that you could make something more simple, since you have a lot of insane diffs already. Agree. I fixed all except 00:15:072 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - , because there's 1.5 beats between these triplets, it's not so difficult. And the music at 00:15:158 - and 00:15:843 - are so obviously that player will feel more naturally when playing this.
Normal
(ZZH let me to rely)
  1. 00:29:643 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - train patterns aren't that comfortable to play, specially when they are really long, try to bring some 1/2 breaks between them. fixed
  2. Also is super weird that all the first part in the map is super dense with 1/2s, but the kiai is a pure 1/1 spam The creator thinks that the drum sound in kiai is more heavy so he want to emphasize them so I want to respect his idea.
actually I'm not sure about this map, I'll check again after you guys are done checking this.
Thanks for mod! And updated all the diffs
Natsu
reduce the OD in your insane to 7, the rest of the insanes also are using 7 and 2 of them are harder than yours.

send me a forum pm when ready~
Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
Done~
Natsu

Pata-Mon wrote:

Done~
finally I have my qualify slot free, but your BG dimensions are weird, I asked and they told me that you will need to change it, atm is: 1810x1280
Natsu
looks fine~
Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
Thanks!
Xinnoh
are you sure the title is spelled correctly
Topic Starter
Pata-Mon
Doormat
didn't even notice this map got qualified LOL. grats~
xxdeathx

Doormat wrote:

didn't even notice this map got qualified LOL. grats~
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