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UVERworld - Itteki no Eikyou (short ver.)

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Yuii-
2,503 posts
Joined July 2013
Yuii-
To show how nothing has been fixed imma just post the same timestamp on Easy. 00:53:782 (1) - still unsnapped. Nothing has changed from the previous mod to this one.

I will also make a short summary of what needs to be fixed on each difficulty and then keep my pop because it seems that we are getting absolutely nothing out of these discussions.

Easy: non-existent rhythm is being mapped. kanor defended his point by saying "I am following not only the vocals, but the drums are well. I am following the music as a whole." but unfortunately this does not happen. Mapping Easies might not be as "easy" as kanor thinks, hence why the most promimenent drum-beats are being mapped as slidertails as shown in: 00:32:387 (2,3) - 00:38:703 (1,2) - etc. Also, this new combo 01:09:651 (1) - is unnecessary.

Normal: difficulty is fine, but 01:18:335 (5,6,7) - there is a huge difficulty spike there.

Hard: 00:51:335 - section there is relatively calm but it shows the same intensity as the rest of the map. 01:11:545 - kanor said "I am following the vocals" but this clearly is not true, would be nice if the next BN could take a look into this section. 01:28:361 (1) - really hard to achieve 300 on this difficulty.

Abhor: This difficulty needs more mods. I said it before and I will repeat it again. It lacks of the minimum requirements to reach the ranking criteria. It is inconsistent, it emphasizes the wrong notes and it lacks of a clear aesthetic aspect. Get more mods!

Insane: The beginning of this difficulty contains less objects at the beginning of the map compared to the Hard difficulty; yup, this is a huge problem. That aside, there is no proper emphasis on this difficulty, everything is spaced equally and sometimes emphasis is poorly done. Last but not least, map itself is way too repetitive, this is of course part of how kanor designed it but I find it to be extremely unnecessary as the song does not support it.

There are a lot of hitsounds missing all over the place across every difficulty, this needs to be double-checked as well.

Good luck with further processing!
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
kanor

Yuii- wrote:

To show how nothing has been fixed imma just post the same timestamp on Easy. 00:53:782 (1) - still unsnapped. Nothing has changed from the previous mod to this one.

I will also make a short summary of what needs to be fixed on each difficulty and then keep my pop because it seems that we are getting absolutely nothing out of these discussions.

Easy: non-existent rhythm is being mapped. kanor defended his point by saying "I am following not only the vocals, but the drums are well. I am following the music as a whole." but unfortunately this does not happen. Mapping Easies might not be as "easy" as kanor thinks, hence why the most promimenent drum-beats are being mapped as slidertails as shown in: 00:32:387 (2,3) - 00:38:703 (1,2) - etc. Also, this new combo 01:09:651 (1) - is unnecessary. fixed the NC, I would find more mods about the problem between these places to make sure if its ok
find some players to test it like -THgzz- ,SunaNeko,- Jelly - and so on, most of them told me that they can completely understand what the sliders follow. I try to use 00:33:651 (1) - to follow the kick in the music, because of the tail the that sliders , I used clap, so if I change to follow the vocal ,it would be empty at which clap should be .So I use 00:34:914 (2,3) - to follow the clap


Normal: difficulty is fine, but 01:18:335 (5,6,7) - there is a huge difficulty spike there. I would find more mods about the problem between these places to make sure if its okI still dont think its a huge difficulty spike cause its just a 1/1 rhythm at all, and the next it hard ,which has many 1/2 sliders spam, so between Easy and Hard, I dont think it would destory the spread by the pattern here

Hard: 00:51:335 - section there is relatively calm but it shows the same intensity as the rest of the map. 01:11:545 - kanor said "I am following the vocals" but this clearly is not true, would be nice if the next BN could take a look into this section. 01:28:361 (1) - really hard to achieve 300 on this difficulty. I would find more mods about the problem between these places to make sure if its okI used 00:51:966 (3) -00:55:124 (6) - to nerf the intensity at this section, although its the rest of the map, it would be huge difficulty spike if I mapped it like Normal. At 01:11:545 - emm I can promise that I follow all the vocal here.About the last spinner, I would feel sorry to those players who cant achieve good grades , but I would still keep it cuz I cant find a better way to follow the end of the music.Btw, players I mentioned above all can get 300, so I would believe there are more players who can get 300


Insane: The beginning of this difficulty contains less objects at the beginning of the map compared to the Hard difficulty; yup, this is a huge problem. That aside, there is no proper emphasis on this difficulty, everything is spaced equally and sometimes emphasis is poorly done. Last but not least, map itself is way too repetitive, this is of course part of how kanor designed it but I find it to be extremely unnecessary as the song does not support it. I would find more mods about the problem between these places to make sure if its ok

actually I still cant voting your idea about this diff. But for me, it is the orignal motivation that push me to finish it.Its is the first expression in my mind and I think it great. Of course I agree with you, and Im still interested about your idea about this diff. But if the whole idea was voted, maybe it would be good for me to push a 'good' map forward, but in fact it wasnt the map I want to push at all. It would be none-sense for me.
I always show my respect to all bns cuz you have made such a hard effort. Im willing to listen to your advice but there is a principle that you can help me to make my idea better but not tell me its bad so lets change another style.If you can give me more suggestions based on understanding the style I used, I would be appriate you a lot
There are a lot of hitsounds missing all over the place across every difficulty, this needs to be double-checked as well.
would check it aggain
with the help of smallboat, I fixed a lot missing hitsounds. thx for remind me of this :)
Good luck with further processing!
thx for modding
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smallboat
1,687 posts
Joined January 2010
smallboat
[Easy] (前段節奏跟得有點特別..不過看起來應該沒事)

00:53:782 (1) - 這都放到藍線是手滑點到了吧

[Normal]

00:36:493 (2) - 微小的間距偏移 (快差了0.10x)
01:24:019 (6) - 同上
01:16:440 (1) - 同上
01:28:282 (4) - 這10%好像快聽不到(Inaudible = Unrank)了，加個最低限度音量到20%較安全。

[Hard]

01:28:282 (6) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好)

[Abhor's Light Insane]

00:18:098 (2) - 這vocal開頭放錯位置了，是放到紅線才對
01:03:335 (4) - 用Ctrl+g好像比較順耶，可以考慮一下。
01:28:282 (1) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好)

[Yukirin]

(圖質量平平，大部分只是音效漏掉的問題，看你好像沒有音效複製程式，這裡給你提供一個加減用 (Hitsounds copier): https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/131540 )

00:21:651 (2) - 跟Hard比較了音效，這兒滑條頭忘了加whistle，難怪聽起來怎麼沒音。 (之後可以重複聽數遍，看看哪些音效空了。)
00:57:966 (3) - Whistle漏了呢
00:58:124 (4) - 這個音效也跟Hard不一樣 (不知道是不是故意的)
00:58:756 (4) - 同00:58:124 (4)
01:02:703 (1) - 這whistle跟其他難度不一樣
01:28:282 (5) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好)
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
kanor

smallboat wrote:

[Easy] (前段節奏跟得有點特別..不過看起來應該沒事)

00:53:782 (1) - 這都放到藍線是手滑點到了吧 确实是手滑了......改了

[Normal]

00:36:493 (2) - 微小的間距偏移 (快差了0.10x) 改了
01:24:019 (6) - 同上 改了
01:16:440 (1) - 同上 改了
01:28:282 (4) - 這10%好像快聽不到(Inaudible = Unrank)了，加個最低限度音量到20%較安全。 改了

[Hard]

01:28:282 (6) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好) 改成finish了



[Yukirin]

(圖質量平平，大部分只是音效漏掉的問題，看你好像沒有音效複製程式，這裡給你提供一個加減用 (Hitsounds copier): https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/131540 )

00:21:651 (2) - 跟Hard比較了音效，這兒滑條頭忘了加whistle，難怪聽起來怎麼沒音。 (之後可以重複聽數遍，看看哪些音效空了。)加上去了
00:57:966 (3) - Whistle漏了呢好，加了
00:58:124 (4) - 這個音效也跟Hard不一樣 (不知道是不是故意的)对比了一下可能是以前下的结果被clap盖掉声音一直没查到ORZ感谢指出！
00:58:756 (4) - 同00:58:124 (4)也改了
01:02:703 (1) - 這whistle跟其他難度不一樣 这一条我不太懂....我对比了一下ENH发现这里都加了whistle，不过N和I没加finish，所以这里是不是说的是finish呀，是的话我先改一下 :) Normal这里是因为滑条跟了vocal就漏了finish...其他的难度都加上啦
01:28:282 (5) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好)厚，改成finish了
等GDer回摸，感谢船业 :)
替GDer回摸：
[Abhor's Light Insane]

00:18:098 (2) - 這vocal開頭放錯位置了，是放到紅線才對改了
01:03:335 (4) - 用Ctrl+g好像比較順耶，可以考慮一下。改了
01:28:282 (1) - 跟Normal比較這音效加錯 (Finish較好)改了
smallboat
1,687 posts
Joined January 2010
smallboat
Bubbled
Mafumafu
Beatmap Nominator
3,367 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
Hmn I will try to check this map later again. Also I need time to read Yuii's concerns too since what he mentioned for sure needs attention too.
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
kanor
ok. waiting for check :)
Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
@Regraz
This map is currently under "your care" as you posted in the clean-up thread, but I shall remember you that you firstly bubbled this mapset and Yuii veto'd it. His veto still applies to you since I couldn't find anything that says "you can go ahead and re-bubble".
It, in fact, looks like Yuii still had some things that wanted to get fixed before pushing it forward (or allowing you to-rebub), therefore you can't re-bub nor qualify. Another BN has to step in here to get it done (or either PM Yuii and discuss this)
yiyoooou
8 posts
Joined February 2016
yiyoooou

[ Abhor ] wrote:

-Spica- wrote:

来看一下easy好啦~

Easy

  1. 00:12:809 (3) - NC？两根白线NC一次。。就这样
  2. 00:14:545 (1) - 滑条头似乎没对上节奏？人声对上了啊0 0
  3. 00:56:230 (3) - 这里偏向不用overlap这个我暂时先保留。。。我打算说BN觉得说删掉我再删掉。。我知道这个可能有点搞事，但是这个重音好强。。就是想对着
嗯以上~
话说这节奏真难抓QWQ是吧，贼几把难抓节奏，低难度简直杀人，Thanks for mod~~
[*] 00:12:809 (3) - 开1/16就抓住了。。。
Mafumafu
Beatmap Nominator
3,367 posts
Joined August 2013
Mafumafu
现在是这样的，你需要把Yuii说的那些改一下然后才能继续rank进程的下一步。然后Abhor再找几个mod
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
kanor
收到，yuii-的回在前面那个里面啦，我去给阿伯再找几个摸得 :)
Vert
424 posts
Joined October 2013
Vert
m4m

[Yukirin]
00:18:019 (5,6,1) - 个人感觉不好看，其实还不如把6和1叠一起
00:50:703 (1,2,3,4) - 1 4 3 2
01:04:914 (5,2) - 没叠好
01:20:387 (3,5) - 确定这个不挡箭头？

[Light insane]
00:16:124 (5,3) - 其实也没对齐
00:22:914 (3,4,5,6) - 3 5 6 4？
00:24:809 (1,2,3,4) - 这个东西在stack机制下会比较难看（我感觉，你可以一个比一个往下错一点，就像00:24:177 (2,1) - 这俩间距那样
00:49:598 (5) - 这里节奏很别扭，我建议这个换成圈+滑条

美丽，低难度没问题
gl
kanor
925 posts
Joined August 2013
Topic Starter
kanor

Vert wrote:

m4m

[Yukirin]
00:18:019 (5,6,1) - 个人感觉不好看，其实还不如把6和1叠一起 前面有人说叠在一起和后面的1/2单点叠不好区分，我就挪开点
00:50:703 (1,2,3,4) - 1 4 3 2 好，改了
01:04:914 (5,2) - 没叠好 好，改了
01:20:387 (3,5) - 确定这个不挡箭头？ 好，改了


美丽，低难度没问题
gl
thx for modding :)
Gyro Zeppeli
94 posts
Joined January 2014
Gyro Zeppeli
NM
[Abhor‘s Light Insane]
00:17:861 (1) - 这个贴这感觉不好读

00:59:703 (4) - 这个一个ctrl+J？看起来好看一些

没什么问题了wwww

祝飞
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Lobelia
@Vert @Gyro Zeppeli all fixed
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Lv9
108 posts
Joined October 2015
Lv9
Abhor's Light Insane
00:25:598 - 这个音不做吗。。感觉容易让玩家提前按后面的折返，错开重叠的地方在边上加个note应该会好读点
00:40:282 (3,4) - flow怪怪的
01:04:282 (2) - ctrl+g？因为前面01:01:756 (3,4) - 方向一样
kanor
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Level9 wrote:

Abhor's Light Insane
00:25:598 - 这个音不做吗。。感觉容易让玩家提前按后面的折返，错开重叠的地方在边上加个note应该会好读点 觉得现在这样更好
00:40:282 (3,4) - flow怪怪的 还好吧....
01:04:282 (2) - ctrl+g？因为前面01:01:756 (3,4) - 方向一样 好，改了
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all updated!
smallboat
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Mafumafu
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Mafumafu
No need to waste more time on this.
kanor
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thx for smallboat and Regraz!！！！！！！！ :)
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congratulation!!
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Gratzz! :3
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Congratz ;) Nice song
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