22:51 William K: yoo Electoz~
22:51 Electoz: hi
23:04 William K: Electoz
23:04 William K: uh are you open for
23:04 William K: testplay
23:04 Electoz: map
23:04 *William K is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255460 ITO KASHITARO - Izu no Odoriko [Magnificence]]
23:05 Electoz: fucking
23:05 Electoz: 6 minutes
23:05 Electoz: with video
23:05 William K: lol
23:06 William K: the video kept me motivated when I'm mapping
23:06 *Electoz is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255460 ITO KASHITARO - Izu no Odoriko]
23:12 Electoz: wew
23:12 William K: wew
23:13 Electoz: sorry to say this but
23:13 Electoz: I almost fell asleep
23:13 William K: lol
23:13 Electoz: cuz 6 mins
23:13 William K: really
23:13 William K: I thought I did many variations
23:13 William K: ;w;
23:13 Electoz: I didn't
23:14 Electoz: pay really
23:14 Electoz: attention
23:14 William K: should I put screen jumps so players stay awake :v
23:15 Electoz: 03:14:851 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - not a good variation
23:15 Electoz: tbh
23:16 William K: just repeating eh xd
23:16 Electoz: you just suddenly spammed 1/2 sliders which you didn't do it
23:16 Electoz: in any other places
23:16 Electoz: like
23:16 William K: 05:01:518 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - how about this
23:16 Electoz: 01:37:073 (1) -
23:16 Electoz: 01:48:925 (1) - etc
23:17 Electoz: that one you brought up
23:17 Electoz: idk
23:17 Electoz: imo it's justifiable
23:17 Electoz: if you want to say
23:17 Electoz: "this kiai is the most intense" thing
23:17 Electoz: or whatever
23:17 Electoz: as your argument
23:18 William K: 03:14:851 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - I'm really out of idea xD
23:18 Electoz: can't you just do what you did with other measures
23:18 Electoz: the variation here is not good cuz
23:18 Electoz: 1) it's inconsistent
23:18 Electoz: 2) it devalues 03:17:814 (1,2,3,4) -
23:19 William K: yes I agree hmm
23:19 William K: I'll change that
23:19 William K: 01:48:925 (1,2,3) - hmm how about this then
23:21 Electoz: seems fine
23:21 Electoz: but
23:21 William K: cuz it's not spamming...
23:21 Electoz: while those things seems to focus on vocals
23:21 Electoz: I also wonder why 01:37:073 (1,2,3,4,5) - is not
23:21 Electoz: prioritizing vocals
23:21 Electoz: 01:38:555 (4,5) - ok this might be okay
23:22 Electoz: 01:37:073 (1,2,3) - but idk with this
23:22 William K: it's also a variation
23:22 William K: cuz my idea was like
23:22 William K: a-b b-c b-c on kiais
23:22 Electoz: elaborate
23:22 Electoz: your science
23:22 William K: lol
23:23 William K: thanks, let me elaborate
23:23 William K: :v
23:24 William K: my idea was 01:37:073 (1,2) - to have the easiest part starting
23:24 William K: then I was like making some more complex ones at 01:48:925 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
23:25 William K: same applies to the 2nd kiai, but it first starts with the last rhythm from kiai 1
23:25 Electoz: oh
23:25 Electoz: now I get it
23:25 William K: then I made some other rhythm, which you said a spam
23:25 Electoz: that's why that thing was so spammy
23:25 William K: yes
23:25 William K: but when I wanted to make like 1/4s in the last kiai
23:26 William K: it was like "wth this is boring, it's spammy"
23:26 Electoz: but yeah looks like you didn't seem to take the same concept
23:26 Electoz: to the last kiai
23:26 William K: then I just do what I did with the 2nd kiai
23:26 Electoz: lo
23:26 William K: but yea it gets like
23:26 William K: more space for markings
23:26 William K: lol
23:26 Electoz: what about these
23:27 Electoz: 02:00:036 (7) - 03:25:962 (1,2,3) -
23:27 Electoz: the way you prioritized rhythms
23:27 Electoz: is literally polar opposite
23:27 William K: you mean
23:27 William K: the extended sliders?
23:27 Electoz: no
23:27 Electoz: I mean
23:27 Electoz: the first kiai
23:27 William K: ohhh
23:28 William K: i get it
23:28 Electoz: you focused on a thing
23:28 Electoz: the second
23:28 Electoz: you mapped a thing you skipped
23:28 William K: 03:25:962 (1,2) - the notes
23:28 Electoz: you also emphasized vocals with an extended slider in the second kiai
23:28 Electoz: but it's not even clickable in the first zz
23:29 William K: I did that
23:29 William K: subconsciously
23:29 William K: lmao
23:29 Electoz: 00:17:073 (1,2,3) - also pretty sure this is intentional? still curious why they're overlapped in a way that they're so stand out from the others
23:29 William K: yes
23:29 William K: it's for emphasizing
23:30 William K: I emphasized like that cuz if I space more it will look... pretty
23:30 William K: pretty bad
23:31 Electoz: nice try
23:31 Electoz: joke/10
23:31 William K: lmao
23:32 William K: 02:00:221 - btw there is some
23:32 William K: faint sound of kick
23:32 William K: eh xd
23:33 William K: 03:26:147 - is this more noticable
23:33 Electoz: hai hai
23:33 Electoz: 01:47:814 (7) - could start on vocals?
23:35 William K: let me consider
23:35 William K: it's strong vocals
23:35 William K: but consistency with 01:41:888 (7) - ah xd
23:36 William K: and from other kiais it's just the one that's inconsistent lol
23:36 Electoz: ye
23:37 Electoz: for some reason 03:44:481 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks a lot more organized/noticeable as a pattern
23:38 Electoz: compared to 03:41:518 (1,2,3,4,5) -
23:38 William K: right changed
23:38 Electoz: what changed
23:38 Electoz: that slider?
23:38 William K: yes that number 7
23:39 William K: 03:41:518 (1,2,3) - yes you're right
23:39 William K: fixed
23:39 Electoz: 03:48:555 (4) - isn't this supposed to be a clap
23:39 Electoz: or whatever that are on red ticks
23:41 William K: 03:48:555 (4) - hmm finish i think
23:41 William K: the kick is so low
23:42 William K: or clap
23:42 William K: hmm wait lol
23:42 William K: yes a clap xd
23:44 Electoz: 05:10:407 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - circular flow zz
23:45 Electoz: idk seems too stand out considering you didn't focus that much on flows in the first place
23:46 William K: I like that tho ;w;
23:46 William K: 05:05:592 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - it's like uh this pretty much?
23:47 Electoz: but the one I mentioned is literally one measure
23:47 Electoz: and the song isn't any much different from 05:07:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - zz
23:49 Electoz: apart from that I don't have anything else
23:49 William K: right :v
23:49 William K: changedt
23:50 William K: 05:21:394 (4) -
23:50 William K: is this better on 1/8 or just the current one?
23:51 William K: lol
23:52 Electoz: timing
23:52 Electoz: sounds off
23:52 William K: with 1/8?
23:52 Electoz: 05:24:296 (4) - like vocal didn't even land here
23:53 Electoz: not sure
23:53 Electoz: tbh
23:53 Electoz: but
23:53 William K: yes xd simplified
23:53 Electoz: if you ask me with the current timing
23:53 Electoz: 05:20:777 (3,4) - is not fine
23:53 Electoz: rhythm is not a problem
23:54 Electoz: you can either snap it to vocals or simplify it to make the gameplay intuitive
23:54 Electoz: up to you
23:54 William K: 05:19:851 (2) - should I make it the same here
23:54 Electoz: the problem is
23:54 William K: like here* i mean
23:54 Electoz: 05:20:777 (3,4) - the patterning is too similar with 05:19:296 (1,2) -
23:54 Electoz: and it's slightly misleading considering the gaps are different
23:54 William K: yea
23:55 William K: I'll simplify then
23:55 William K: simplifying never hurts xd
23:55 Electoz: alright