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01:18:642 (3) - 여기 소리없음
01:40:399 (1,2) - 1번 꼬리랑 2번 휘슬자리 바뀐거같음
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귀신같이 튕겼다;;; 쿠도스 주자
01:18:642 (3) - 여기 소리없음
01:40:399 (1,2) - 1번 꼬리랑 2번 휘슬자리 바뀐거같음
Talked in IRC
귀신같이 튕겼다;;; 쿠도스 주자
2017-04-15 03:00 UnLock-: ㅇㅇ
2017-04-15 03:01 UnLock-: 01:26:345 (1) - 빨간 틱 부분의 소리를 슬라틱으로 대충 떄우는건 너무했다고 생각해
2017-04-15 03:01 UnLock-: 피리소리도 빨간 틱에서 끝나는데 고쳐보는건 어떻냐
2017-04-15 03:02 UnLock-: 나같았으면 파란틱에 서클을 넣어서 01:26:885 (3) - 여기에 들리는 "헤이" 소리를 강조하는 식으로 짰을거같다
2017-04-15 03:02 UnLock-: 근데 헤이 맞냐?
2017-04-15 03:03 Enon: 애가
2017-04-15 03:03 Enon: 하는 말이 달라지네
2017-04-15 03:03 UnLock-: ?
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 01:17:696 (1) - 01:26:345 (1) - 01:34:994 (1) -
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 2017-04-11 01:37 UnLock-: 01:25:264 (1,2,3,4) - 내 귀에는 이 박자 뒤에 나오는 3/4 슬라만 어울리는거같다
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 네가 어울린다고 해서 그대로 둔건데
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 지금은 또 너무하다고 하네
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: ㅋㅋ
2017-04-15 03:05 UnLock-: 새벽 1시잖아 저거
2017-04-15 03:05 UnLock-: 분명 취했을걸
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 지금은 3시야
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 잠 다깼엉
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 그냥 저건 니 맘대로 해라
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 01:40:399 (1,2) - 2번에 들어간 휘슬 빼서 1번 꼬리에 넣고
2017-04-15 03:07 Enon: 저거 3/4 부분은
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 01:10:129 - 01:18:642 - //01:18:777 - 01:27:291 - // 01:27:426 - 01:35:940 -
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 이런 식으로 한 마디라고 본다고 했을 때
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 마디의 끝부분을
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 다음 마디가 시작하기 전에
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 좀 박자 사용을 자제해서 다음 마디의 시작을 펑 터트리고 싶다는 생각을 했었음
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 그럼
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7825154
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 이런 박자는 어떠냐
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 솔직히 나 01:35:940 - 여기 무슨 소리가 있는건지 모르겠거든
2017-04-15 03:11 UnLock-: 니가 그런 생각이 있다면 소리가 있더라도 비워두는게 좋을거라고 생각해
2017-04-15 03:11 Enon: 01:35:940 -
2017-04-15 03:11 Enon: 여기는 없는 거 맞는 것 같다 지웠음
[C u r i] wrote:
[jieusieu's Standard]
00:26:074 (4,5) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다 ㅋㅋ
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[C u r i] wrote:
[Beom's Beginner]
00:54:453 (2,1) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다 - 워낙 마이너한 요소다 보니 일말의 필요성도 느끼지 못하겠네요 이해
하시리라 생각합니다
[C u r i] wrote:
[Hyper]
01:19:858 (4,5) - 패턴을 위한것임을 알지만 저는 오버랩이 굉장히 신경쓰였습니다 이런 오버랩 많이들 싫어하시던데 저는 개인적으로 좋아합니다.
01:36:615 (3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6) - 전체적인 난이도에 비해 이곳만 너무 어려운거 같은데 1/4슬라로 표현하시는것도 생각해봐주세요 이걸
너프해버리면 걱정하시는 갭 문제가 더 커질 거라고 생각하네요. 난이도 조절을 위한 패턴이였습니다.
[Another]
하이퍼와의 갭차이가 조금 크다고 느껴지는데 난이도 하나 사이에 추가하는것도 고려해주세요 ^
모딩 감사합니다.Beomsan wrote:
어나더 키아이 관련 일단 맵 관련 얘기니까 스레드에다가 적음
01:13:372 (1,2) - 리맵 하기 전에는 뭔가 이런 이전의 패턴때문에 다소 어색해지는 요소가 없었다고 기억하는데 말 하기가 좀 어렵지만 굳이 어떤 느낌이냐고 말한다면 01:30:669 (1,2) - 이런 2점 슬라이더를 사용한 연계가 더 좋았을 것 같다는 이야기. 잃은 것 중 하나라고 생각됨.
01:15:534 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:24:183 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 이런 것들은 정말 실수가 맞는 것 같음 리맵 전 키아이에서 이 부분들은 맵에서 가장 중요한 패턴이라고도 할 수 있다고 생각했는데 그런 느낌이 많이 사라졌음.
01:33:912 (1,2,3,4) - 여기서 오버랩이 사라진건 보기가 좋고,
잃은 것도 많지만 얻은 것도 많다.... 뭐라 말하기가 애매했음.
네가 말하는 것만 들어보면 잃은 것만 많은 느낌이다. 많은 사람들한테 의견을 들어봤는데 정말 리맵 전보다 패턴 표현이라던가, 리듬의 사용이라던가 아쉬웠다는 말을 하는 사람이 있는 반면, 취향 차이일 뿐이라고 말하는 사람도 있더라. 내가 보기에도 리맵 전이 맵 전체적으로 봤을 때랑 더 어울리는 것 같고, 마음에 안 드는 패턴 몇 개 때문에 맵을 갈아 엎은 게 잘한 짓인지 후회가 되긴 하는데, 그래도 이 상태가 나름 괜찮다고 느끼고 있고, 좋아해주는 사람이 아예 없는 것도 아닌 것 같아서 아쉽지만 이대로 한 번 가볼까 싶네.
내가 보기엔 잃었다고 표현해도 과언이 아님UnLock- wrote:
잃었다기보단 변했다는 말이 맞지 않나?
설리하지 마시고 모딩해조요!!!scanter wrote:
뭔가 갑자기 무릉도원에 온 느낌이다
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사실빨갛게쓴거고친거에요scanter wrote:
- jieusieu's Standard
- 슬라 뒤에 1/2박으로 서클 겹쳐놓은게 좀 보이는데, 초보들은 잘 못치니까 그 부분은 좀 신경써줘야 할듯 고쳐야겠다고 생각은 했었는데 이번에 고쳐봐야겠네요
00:33:102 (5) - 여기라던가
00:50:399 (5) - 여기- 그리고 슬라 뒤끝에 클랩이나 피니시 많이 들어가있는데, 이거도 좀 신경쓰이긴 하지만 나는 쾃이 아니라 신경만 쓰겠음
- 01:59:317 (4) - 일부러 이런 것 같지만 심벌즈 소리가 더 어울려보임 절충해서 둘다넣었음
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모딩 감사합니다scanter wrote:
- Beom's Black Another
- 00:50:467 (8,8) - 들리는 음이 없는데 너무 무리하게 집어넣으신거 같음. 뭐 스타일이라면 할 말은 없지만 - 저는 음이 들립니다
- 00:59:115 (8) - 여기도 - 솔직히 이건 잘 모르겠는데 위의 것이랑 어울려서 냅둬도 되지 않나 싶습니다
- 00:57:696 (3,5) - 각 머리에 그냥 소프트 클랩으로 처리하시는게 더 좋을거 같음 - (3)에는 소프트 클랩이 좋아서 넣었습니다만 (5)에선 드럼쪽으로 사용하고 싶네요
- 01:01:480 (1) - 담요? - 와우
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464,192,112291,6,0,P|467:152|454:120,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
350,31,112561,2,0,L|331:105,1,71.9999978027344,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,177,112831,2,0,P|154:189|116:131,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
331,201,113372,6,0,B|358:268|324:279|353:342,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,291,113777,1,0,0:0:0:0:
273,251,113912,2,0,P|267:289|271:322,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,291,114183,2,0,P|412:255|407:219,1,71.9999978027344,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
403,208,114385,1,0,0:0:0:0:
397,197,114453,5,8,0:0:0:0:
487,242,114588,1,0,0:0:0:0:
365,135,114723,2,0,P|396:115|413:81,1,71.9999978027344,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
271,53,114994,2,0,L|250:195,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
159,214,115399,1,0,0:0:0:0:
143,204,115467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
127,195,115534,5,8,0:0:0:0:
179,140,115669,1,0,0:0:0:0:
222,267,115804,2,0,L|168:314,1,71.9999978027344,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
249,195,116075,2,0,P|316:177|366:224,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
299,246,116480,1,0,0:0:0:0:
247,111,116615,6,0,B|301:101|301:101|336:109|336:109|389:98,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,36,117021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
275,33,117156,2,0,L|205:50,1,71.9999978027344,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,36,117426,1,2,0:0:0:0:
429,160,117561,1,0,0:0:0:0:
446,154,117629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
463,149,117696,5,8,0:0:0:0:
388,98,117831,1,0,0:0:0:0:
383,218,117967,2,0,L|404:290,1,71.9999978027344,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
345,345,118237,2,0,L|306:204,1,143.999995605469,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
239,242,118642,6,0,L|201:251,2,35.9999989013672,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,170,118912,1,0,0:0:0:0:
245,153,119048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,315,119183,1,4,3:0:0:0:
119,169,119318,6,0,P|104:121|132:79,1,103.999995239258,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
소중한 시간 감사합니다.scanter wrote:
오라해서 왔음 나도 스레드 분위기 따라서 음슴체 쓸꺼임
- Beom's Beginner
- 01:03:642 - S:C1 피니시
- 01:26:885 - S:C6 피니시 all fixed
- Hyper
- 00:16:615 (3) - 정확한 등간격 좌표는 x:359, y:246 나이스 지적이십니다
- 00:40:264 (2,3) - 스택때문에 거리가 x1.05로 설정되어있지만 크게 신경쓸 부분은 아니니 판단에 맡기겠음 말씀하셨다시피 스택을 노린거라서 유지하고 싶네요.
- 01:12:696 (2) - 이거 오토로 돌려보시면 알겠지만 SB효과도 있어서 그런지 정말 안 보이는데, 스택보다는 왼쪽으로 미는게 더 낫지 않음? 고쳤습니다.
- 01:20:399 (5) - 끝에 살짝 겹치는게 보기가 그런데, 이건 어떰? 큐리님 모딩에서도 거절했는데, 이렇게 겹치는 거 개인적으로 괜찮다고
생각하고 있고, 지금 상태가 좀 더 aesthetic한 상태에 가까운 것 같네요.SPOILER244,184,79858,2,0,P|237:122|348:87,1,195,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,153,80399,2,0,L|362:224,1,65,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
349,287,80669,2,0,L|341:358,1,65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:- 01:36:075 - 01:39:318 - 전반적으로 이 부분은 노트 겹침 키시고 거리 x1.1로 맞추시면 좋을듯 함 약간 빗나가 있는 디스턴스 고치라는
뜻으로 이해하고 고쳤습니다.- 01:59:318 - 하드에선 정말 큰 속도 변화폭 같은데, 타이밍에서 x1.25정도로만 올려놔도 괜찮을듯 이건 하드 난이도라고 해도 양보하기
힘드네요..굳럭
- Another
- 00:52:831 (1) - 크게 신경쓰지 않아도 되지만 올바른 등간격 위치는 x:191, y:342. 만약 옮길거면 뒤에있는거도 거리 조절해주면 굿 굿
- 01:07:967 (1,1,1) - 음 개인적으로는 1번에 걸치는 것보다 거리를 좀 더 찢고 왼쪽에 뒀으면 하는 바램임. 음이랑 치는 느낌이 좀 언밸런스함 저는 언밸런스하다는 생각에는 공감할 수 없네요.. 상당히 곡이랑 잘 맞아떨어진다고 생각하고 있거든요.
- 01:36:480 (2,3,6,7) - 저번에도 말했다시피 디퀄 관련 포스팅이 올라오면 이 부분을 지적할 것 같음. 근데 저는 쾃이 아니라 님 판단에 맡기겠음 손닉님 모딩에서도 그렇고 스캔터님께도 저번에 말씀드렸지만 맵에서 가장 마음에 드는 부분이고, 끝까지 유지해보고 싶은 부분입니다.
정말로 디퀄을 먹게 되지 않는 이상은 고치고 싶지 않습니다.
클랩은 기본힛사라 바꾸기가 애매하네요BetaStar wrote:
[stardard]
아무리 듣어도 힛사중에 C9 Clap이 듣기에 쫌 큰거 같네요
이렇게 찾아와주셔서 감사합니다.BetaStar wrote:
안녕하세요
[general]
drum-hitwhistle9.wav >5ms 딜래이가 있네요.
이걸로 바꿔주세요. https://puu.sh/vQjlh/505c0acc54.wav
[범]
필요없는 초록줄은 지워주세요
똑같은거 중에, 처음꺼는 나두시고, 지워주세요.
[another]
00:24:183 (3) - 일부러 슬라 사운드 나두신건가요
00:37:696 (1) - ^
01:50:669 (3) - ^
00:46:885 (2) - 피니시 / 클랩 없는게 더 나은거 같네요
저 부분에 강조를 해주고 싶었습니다.
[beginner]
아래 초록꺼 지워주세요
all fixed except mentioned
스토리보드 멋지네요!
쿠도스 필요없어요, 애논님 굿럭!
thanks! i am really glad to see a BN like this set!My Angel Azusa wrote:
Nice song and nice map!!
LOLEnon wrote:
ddddd
ddddd
I have read the rules in Kibbleru's queue
Kibbleru wrote:
u need a diff between beginner and standard tbh >>
01:15
01:16 *Enon is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1305668 Nekomata Master - Sayonara Heaven [Normal]]
01:18 scanter: 00:51:750 (3) -
01:18 scanter: 이런거 좀 많이 보이는데
01:18 scanter: 슬라 뒤끝에 심벌즈같은거 넣는거 비추
01:18 scanter: 치는 맛이 안나여
01:19 Enon: 모든 난이도 거의
01:19 Enon: 공통으로 들어가는 힛사라 일단 냅두긴 했는데
01:19 Enon: 많이 별루인가용?
01:19 scanter: 하위 난이도에서는 좀
01:19 scanter: 그래여
01:19 scanter: 하드 이상부터는 워낙에 템포 빠르게 진행되다보니
01:19 scanter: 그럴 틈이 거의 없긴한데
01:19 scanter: 노말에서는 그래도 빈 구간이 많이 있어서
01:20 scanter: 어색하긴 하네요
01:20 scanter: 근데 이거
01:20 scanter: 개인적인 느낌일 수도 있음
01:20 scanter: 그 외에는 ㄱㅊ
2017-05-30 18:27 Enon: hey bro!
2017-05-30 18:27 Natsu: yo bro
2017-05-30 18:27 Enon: do you have time to have look a diff!?
2017-05-30 18:28 Enon: it is "Normal" diff
2017-05-30 18:28 Enon: i made it for diffs spread
2017-05-30 18:28 Natsu: sure
2017-05-30 18:28 Enon: so need to get some mod for it
2017-05-30 18:28 Enon: thanks!
2017-05-30 18:28 Enon: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1305668 Nekomata Master - Sayonara Heaven [Normal]]
2017-05-30 18:29 Enon: which mapset is this!
2017-05-30 18:30 Natsu: just the normal diff??
2017-05-30 18:34 Enon: yes!
2017-05-30 18:34 Enon: i made it fot the spread between beginner and standard
2017-05-30 18:36 Enon: please tell me if you find something looks bad
2017-05-30 18:39 Natsu: 00:42:021 (1,3) - less curved would looks better
2017-05-30 18:40 Enon: aww ;w; that aesthetic
2017-05-30 18:40 Natsu: yeah
2017-05-30 18:40 Natsu: btw
2017-05-30 18:40 Natsu: also you forgot a circle with clap here 00:50:399 (3) -
2017-05-30 18:40 Natsu: since you have one at the similar part in 00:33:102 (4) -
2017-05-30 18:43 Natsu: 01:26:345 (3,4) -
2017-05-30 18:43 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8219197
2017-05-30 18:43 Natsu: this rhythm is a lot better
2017-05-30 18:45 Natsu: 01:30:669 (4,5) - here also, maybe change to this rhythm https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8219212
2017-05-30 18:45 Natsu: fit better the music
2017-05-30 18:46 Natsu: 01:40:129 (5,1,2,3,1) - all your map is really clean, without this pattern looks really messy
2017-05-30 18:47 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8219236 maybe
2017-05-30 18:48 Natsu: the rest looks really n nice ç;
2017-05-30 18:50 Enon: thanks!
2017-05-30 18:50 Enon: i will try to apply the things you suggested!
2017-05-30 18:52 Natsu: naisu
2017-05-31 01:29 Enon: 안녕하세요 도약님
2017-05-31 01:29 Enon: 난이도 하나만 봐주실 시간 되시나요?
2017-05-31 01:29 Doyak: 네
2017-05-31 01:30 Enon: 난이도 분포 문제로 난이도를 하나 만들었는데
2017-05-31 01:30 Enon: 모딩 몇 개 정돈 받고 가야겠다 싶어서 ㅋㅅㅋ
2017-05-31 01:30 Enon: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1305668 Nekomata Master - Sayonara Heaven]
2017-05-31 01:30 Enon: 일단 맵은 이거에요
2017-05-31 01:31 Doyak: 사요나라 헤븐
2017-05-31 01:31 Doyak: 팔아요나라 헤븐
2017-05-31 01:31 Doyak: 어느 난이도요?
2017-05-31 01:33 Enon: 노말이요
2017-05-31 01:34 Enon: 키블레루가 비기너랑 스탠다드 사이 분포가 좀 위험해보인다고 해서 난이도 하나 만들라길레
2017-05-31 01:34 Enon: 금방 만들어서 좀 퀄리티가..
2017-05-31 01:37 Enon: 어느 난이도류
2017-05-31 01:38 Enon: 01:26:885 - 비기너 난이도에서 난이도 새로 만들기해서 그런지 이런 것도 따라왔는데
2017-05-31 01:38 Enon: 지우는 게 좋겠죠?
2017-05-31 01:39 Doyak: 피니시요?
2017-05-31 01:40 Enon: 피니시도 그렇고 샘플셋도 그렇고
2017-05-31 01:40 Enon: 저기 혼자만 들어간 것 같네요 지금 보니..
2017-05-31 01:41 Doyak: 그래도 저기는 충분히 피니시가 들어갈 이유가 있네요
2017-05-31 01:41 Enon: 아하
2017-05-31 01:42 Enon: 00:50:399 -
2017-05-31 01:42 Enon: 나츠가 여기를 비운걸 지적을 하던데
2017-05-31 01:42 Enon: 00:33:102 -
2017-05-31 01:42 Enon: 여기랑 비교를 하면서요
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: 그건 일리 있는 지적이네요
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: 제가 보기엔, 거기 이외에도
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: 좀 더 브레이크를 여기저기 넣어줘도
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: 괜찮지 않을까 싶어요
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: 지금 맵이 전혀 쉼이 없어요
2017-05-31 01:43 Doyak: bpm이 좀 느리기는 해도, 비기너와 어드밴스 사이의 난이도를 만들기 위해서 넣은 거라면
2017-05-31 01:44 Doyak: 실질적인 1/1 브레이크들이 좀 있는 게 좋을 거 같아요
2017-05-31 01:44 Enon: 뭐랄까
2017-05-31 01:44 Enon: 사이를 채운다고 만들긴 했는데
2017-05-31 01:45 Enon: 되게 박자가 단순하게 찍혀서 스탠다드와의 갭을 줄이기엔 역부족이지 않나 싶었는데
2017-05-31 01:45 Enon: 그건 또 아닌가 보네요
2017-05-31 01:45 Doyak: 사실 좋은 스프레드가 되려면
2017-05-31 01:46 Doyak: 어느 한두 부문에서 확 쉽고 어렵고로 결정할 게 아니라
2017-05-31 01:46 Doyak: 전체적으로 골고루 난이도의 변화가 있는 것이 좋은데
2017-05-31 01:46 Doyak: 예를 들면 노말에 3/4 왕복 슬라이더 같은 건 좀 더 써도 좋아요
2017-05-31 01:46 Doyak: 박자가 단순한 게 문제라면요
2017-05-31 01:47 Doyak: 그런데 노트 밀도상으로 보면 노말과 스탠다드와의 차이가 거의 없어요
2017-05-31 01:47 Doyak: 반면에 비기너랑 비교하면, 비기너는 거의 전체가 1/1 도배인지라 많이 공허하죠
2017-05-31 01:48 Doyak: 이건 좀 다른 이야기인데
2017-05-31 01:48 Doyak: 비기너에 대해서 살짝 지적하고 싶은 게 있는데
2017-05-31 01:48 Enon: 네네
2017-05-31 01:48 Doyak: 01:10:129 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 이 26초에 달하는 구간동안
2017-05-31 01:49 Doyak: 박자에 변화가 없이 전부 1/1로 메워져 있어요
2017-05-31 01:49 Doyak: 이건 제가 볼 땐, 노트가 곡의 변화를 좀 반영하지 못하고 너무 기본박에만 충실한 게 아닌가 싶네요
2017-05-31 01:50 Doyak: 곡이 느리니까, 약간 1/2을 활용해도 괜찮을 거 같은데 말이죠
2017-05-31 01:50 Doyak: 어차피 뒤에는 1/2 전이를 연속으로 쓰고 있기까지 하고요
2017-05-31 01:51 Doyak: 뭐 이 부분에 대해서는 동의하시면 범산님께 전달해보세요
2017-05-31 01:52 Doyak: 노말에 대해서 몇 가지 말씀드리자면
2017-05-31 01:52 Doyak: 키아이에 들어가기 전까지 리듬 패턴이 계속해서 비슷하게 반복적으로 나타나는 경향이 있어요
2017-05-31 01:53 Doyak: 가령 00:33:372 - 를 기점으로 해서 이전과 이후는
2017-05-31 01:53 Doyak: 음악적으로 굉장히 다른 부분인데
2017-05-31 01:53 Doyak: 비슷한 모양에, 똑같은 형식의 박자를 구분 없이 이어서 쓰고 있어요
2017-05-31 01:54 Enon: 나름 차별화를 줘보려고 00:48:507 (1) -
2017-05-31 01:54 Enon: 이런 슬라이더들을 넣어보긴 했는데요
2017-05-31 01:54 Doyak: 네 그건 저도 눈치를 챘어요
2017-05-31 01:54 Doyak: 그런데 그게 너무 가끔 나와서
2017-05-31 01:54 Doyak: 오히려 저것들이 이 부분의 전체적인 리듬에서 벗어난 느낌을 받았어요
2017-05-31 01:55 Doyak: 차라리 저 소리들을 파트 전체적으로 좀 더 적극적으로 따라가게끔
2017-05-31 01:55 Doyak: 리듬에 변화를 확실하게 주어보면 어떨까 싶기도 하고
2017-05-31 01:55 Doyak: 00:37:426 - 같은 소리는, 이 부분이 전체적으로 앞에 비해서 분위기가 좀 가라앉았다는 점을 고려해서
2017-05-31 01:55 Doyak: 비워줄 수도 있는 부분이기도 하고요
2017-05-31 01:56 Enon: 00:38:777 (3) -
2017-05-31 01:57 Enon: 이런걸 파란틱에서 리버스하는 슬라이더로 바꿔줄 수도 있을 것 같네요
2017-05-31 01:57 Doyak: 네 그런 것들요
2017-05-31 01:57 Doyak: 00:33:372 (1) - 도 가능하고
2017-05-31 01:57 Doyak: 00:42:021 (1) - 00:47:426 (3) -
2017-05-31 01:58 Doyak: 그 이후로도 00:50:669 (1) - 등등 계속 있긴 한데 어떻게 할지는 제가 더 간섭은 안 하는 게 좋겠고
2017-05-31 01:59 Enon: 50초 이후부터는
2017-05-31 01:59 Enon: 어제 새벽에
2017-05-31 01:59 Enon: 리맵을 한 3시간동안 했던 부분이긴 한데
2017-05-31 02:00 Doyak: 뭐 지금 상태로도 무난하다고 봐요
2017-05-31 02:00 Doyak: 저 같아도 안 고칠 듯 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
2017-05-31 02:00 Enon: 00:33:372 -
2017-05-31 02:00 Enon: 이 부분부터는
2017-05-31 02:00 Doyak: 저는 그냥 제가 생각하는 좋은 방향을 말씀드린 거니
2017-05-31 02:00 Enon: 한 번 손을 봐볼게요
2017-05-31 02:01 Doyak: 01:05:804 (1,2,3,4) - 요런 리듬 말인데요
2017-05-31 02:01 Doyak: (2) 같은 경우는 filler beat의 느낌이 강해서
2017-05-31 02:01 Enon: spsp
2017-05-31 02:02 Doyak: 실제로 음악에서 그다지 중요한 역할을 하는 비트가 아닌데도
2017-05-31 02:02 Doyak: 노트 구성상 이쪽에 강조가 많이 되잖아요
2017-05-31 02:02 Doyak: 과감하게 비워보는 것도 생각해볼 수 있을 것 같아요
2017-05-31 02:02 Doyak: 실제로 01:07:696 - 에 비해서 상대적으로 많이 약하기도 하고요
2017-05-31 02:04 Enon: 2는 비우고 4는 두고?
2017-05-31 02:04 Doyak: 네
2017-05-31 02:05 Doyak: 생각해 보면 지금 이렇게 생긴 노트 박자를
2017-05-31 02:05 Doyak: 00:42:021 (1,2,3,4) - 와 같이 2, 4에 뚜렷하게 멜로디가 뒷받침해주는 것들이랑
2017-05-31 02:06 Doyak: 구분 없이 똑같이 쓰고 있어서
2017-05-31 02:06 Doyak: 그 부분에서 약간 단조롭다는 느낌도 어느 정도 있었어요
2017-05-31 02:06 Doyak: 00:20:399 (1,2,3,4) - 같은 경우는 박수 소리가 뒷받침해주는 게 있고
2017-05-31 02:08 Doyak: 노래 특성상, 노트로 구분을 해줄 만한 곳이 생기면 가능한 차이점을 두어 주는 게 반복적인 리듬 패턴을 피할 수 있지 않을까 싶네요