16:11 Skylish: Hey Kin, I saw you took my map in MrSergio's post. Can I bother you few minutes from your Aspire mapping?
16:11 Kin: ye ofc
16:12 Skylish: thanks
16:12 Skylish: can we have an IRC mod instead of a forum post, so we can save time
16:12 Kin: sure
16:13 Skylish: good, I have an amendment want to do in Oni
16:13 *Skylish is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1242057 gi(a)rlish number - Ima wa Mijikashi Yume Miyo Otome [Oni]]
16:13 Skylish: 01:06:208 (25,26,27,28,29,30,31) -
16:14 Skylish: I would like to change them to K k d K k d K, to show the relationship with 00:48:208 (39,40,41,42,43,44,45) -
16:14 Skylish: how do you think about it ^ ?
16:15 Kin: I'd say it's okay
16:15 Kin: as long we can see the vocal is ascending to the high pich
16:15 Skylish: aight, what do you spot out in all difficulties?
16:16 Kin: I'd say, those note are sure strong to be finisher 00:11:008 (29,30) -
16:16 Kin: but this one 00:12:208 (32) - kinda feel empty
16:16 Kin: maybe, change it into a D ?
16:17 Kin: It's still different from other finisher, while emphasis the strong note
16:17 Skylish: nice, adopted in all difficulties if applicable
16:18 Kin: if you do so, you might also wanna be consistent about other one like this one ? 00:17:008 (15) -
16:18 Kin: tho, i can understand to not finish note like those according to pattern
16:18 Skylish: wanna emphasize the start (00:14:608 - ) rather than the last note
16:19 Skylish: so nope for 00:17:008 - / 00:21:808 -
16:19 Skylish: etc.
16:20 Kin: 00:41:758 (5) - I know why this one is 1/2, but the voice being inaccurate, maybe it should be better to just go with the flow and change it into 1/3 ?
16:20 Kin: when I say the voice is kinda inaccurate, we can as exemple hear the "ko" from the vocal around here : 00:41:558 -
16:22 Skylish: 00:41:508 (3,4,5,6,7) - is different from 00:43:908 (17,18,19,20) -
16:22 Skylish: and about the inaccurate vocal
16:22 Skylish: 00:41:558 - this is the right place of the voca
16:22 Skylish: *vocal
16:23 Skylish: but it sounds very strange ....
16:23 Skylish: I mean, very off
16:23 Kin: ye, that's why I said the vocal is inaccurate
16:24 Kin: (I was thinking about something like this http://puu.sh/vMH13/6a285e2388.jpg )
16:24 Skylish: 00:41:608 - there's a guitar plug here
16:24 Skylish: it should be fine to keep the current pattern (wait lemme check your screenshot
16:24 Skylish: 00:41:758 - it is correct
16:24 Kin: it is
16:24 Skylish: --> 00:41:508 (3,4,5,6,7) - is different from 00:43:908 (17,18,19,20) -
16:25 Kin: but the voice is kinda inaccurate
16:25 Skylish: you can see the song has two variations in 1 section
16:25 Skylish: They have different rhythms lol
16:27 Kin: Well, I was just asking you if you prefer the overall flow or follow the vocal >_>
16:27 Kin: I guess you prefer vocal
16:27 Skylish: Those inaccurate vocals are not really noticable in my current patterns, as I try to follow both instruments and vocal
16:27 Kin: well
16:27 Skylish: the overall pattern flow also match the song's flow
16:27 Kin: that's something I can clearly hear
16:27 Kin: dunno about others
16:28 Skylish: clarify a bit: 00:41:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - no change at all now
16:31 Kin: this inaccurate voice gives me headaches =w=
16:31 Skylish: Nwolf said that as well lol (when we were undergoing the mentorship prog.)
16:31 Kin: other example, the big kat is well 00:59:233 (13) - ; but the voice isn't on it xD
16:31 Skylish: he asked the singers to eat dirt lmao
16:32 Kin: I know that feeling xD
16:32 Skylish: wait big KAT?
16:32 Skylish: at 00:59:233 - ?
16:32 Kin: oh
16:32 Kin: sorry
16:32 Kin: I mean
16:32 Kin: big don
16:32 Skylish: wew
16:32 Kin: I just finished my whiskey, don't mind
16:32 Skylish: but the vocal is meant to hitting on that timing
16:32 Skylish: lol
16:32 Kin: it is
16:33 Kin: the vocal is just more or less inaccurate
16:33 Skylish: somehow, yes
16:34 Kin: I'd say that's all about oni
16:34 Skylish: okay
16:36 Kin: damn
16:37 Kin: I've copy paste to wrong chat xD
16:37 Kin: so
16:37 Kin: I said :
16:37 Kin: on muzukashii :
16:37 Skylish: LMAO
16:37 Kin: 00:21:508 (10,11) - Maybe make one of those as don ?
16:38 Kin: kinda feel like this one 00:21:808 (11) - should be different from this one 00:21:508 (10) -
16:38 Kin: 00:16:608 (9,10,11) - tho, this one is fine, with the flow dk k
16:38 Skylish: this second repeated phrase 00:19:408 - has kat as the main theme in all difficulties
16:38 Skylish: so I will keep 00:21:408 (9,10) - as k k
16:39 Skylish: 00:21:808 - same as this one
16:39 Skylish: * 00:21:808 - is a consistent kat by the way
16:40 Kin: ye, it is consistent with this one : 00:17:008 (11) -
16:40 Kin: but the flow feel really different
16:40 Skylish: you can that progression of using kat in Oni and Futsuu as well
16:41 Skylish: more kats are used in the second repetition
16:42 Skylish: *you can 'see' that
16:42 Skylish: but if you insist on enhancing the overall flow there
16:42 Skylish: 00:21:508 - can be a d
16:42 Skylish: like what if you can accept k kk k usage at 00:21:208 -
16:43 Kin: well, depending on which on you prefer to change as d
16:43 Skylish: what if 00:21:508 - then?
16:43 Skylish: I feel like it would be the best option to polish the flow
16:43 Kin: I'd say if flow better than k spam
16:44 Skylish: alright, 00:21:508 - is a don now
16:45 Kin: almost same case goes here 00:26:008 (8,9,10,11,12) - ; tho, I can understand why you prefer to keep it like this
16:45 Skylish: ^ yes, so kept
16:46 Kin: 00:36:208 (17) - you used a big note on Oni here
16:46 Skylish: not really fond of using any Finishers in the middle part of the vocal solo
16:46 Kin: tho, easier diff doesn't have it
16:46 Skylish: oh
16:47 Skylish: I unite 00:36:208 - as a D now
16:47 Skylish: in all difficulties
16:47 Kin: okay
16:47 Skylish: it seperates the vocal solo part into two parts well
16:47 Skylish: thanks for notice
16:48 Kin: I'm kinda confuse
16:48 Kin: 00:41:808 (4) - you used 1/2 on the oni diff
16:48 Kin: but this one is 1/3
16:49 Kin: tho, full 1/2 on this pattern is quite weird
16:49 Kin: but it's currently inconsistent according to other diff
16:50 Skylish: looks like I mis-snapped lmao
16:50 Skylish: shift it back to 00:41:758 -
16:50 Skylish: 00:41:608 - d d k d in 1/2 now
16:50 Kin: the 1/2 snap as muzu really feels weird to me >_>
16:50 Kin: but well
16:51 Skylish: same explanation about that inaccurate vocal again :>
16:51 Skylish: yay
16:51 Kin: 00:51:208 (1) - change it into big note ?
16:51 Kin: since it's a big note on oni
16:53 Skylish: as there is no accompaniments by the small notes stream from 00:50:608 - to 00:51:058 -
16:53 Skylish: a single k at 00:51:058 - is fine
16:54 Kin: I'd say that's all for Muzu
16:55 Skylish: alright
16:55 Kin: those whistle spamming on the background tho >_>
16:56 Skylish: Nwolf hated that as well lmao
17:00 Kin: 00:25:608 (5,6) - not quite sure about using 1/3 here. It does fit, but even the kiai doesn't have those kind
17:00 Skylish: it's the only progression and the most symbolic rhythm of these repeated sections
17:01 Skylish: I am not going to remove them
17:05 Kin: except the weird snap from vocal, kiai on kantan & futsuu are pretty similar
17:10 Kin: tho, I'd say, it's fine according to what you're following
17:11 Skylish: yay
17:11 Kin: I guess that's pretty much all from the mapset ôwô
17:11 Skylish: WOW :D
17:11 Skylish: lemme update first
17:12 Skylish: updated
17:12 Skylish: please recheck the mapset to make sure nothing goes wrong :>
17:13 Kin: ofc
17:22 Kin: Okay everything is fine
