Sonnyc wrote:

Regarding the kiai of Qingyi diff being different each other, at least they are commonly fast in sv which creates a difficulty with non-kiai sections. The major difference I can see is the slider styles, and I think the map can work as the current design (although I'm not really a fan of this because basically the song is similar, and the expression was different but I respect your interpretation).

However the rhythm selection of 01:46:568 (1,2) - 01:48:068 (1,2) - 02:10:568 (1,2) - 02:12:068 (1,2) - vs 03:45:068 (1,2) - 03:46:568 (1,2) - 04:09:068 (1,2) - 04:10:568 (1,2) - was way beyond different while the song being similar themselves. Even two kiai sections were having a different concept, applying a completely different rhythm / slider shape / sv concept here felt too much. At least assuring some minor consistency between these ones would be one thing I'd like to see.

And maybe you can consider making the break section of both difficulties consistently.

1. 00:25:588 (1) - Why are you extending this to the blue tick even though there is already a very distinct drum-hit on the red tick at 00:27:629 -? That's extremely irritating to play imo, feels very unnatural to forcedfully keep holding the slider even though there's already a beat that I wanna interact with
2. 04:56:153 (1) - I also find it quite unnatural to start the slider with the vocals here because the previous slider is only following the piano and ignoring the vocal notes in-between, and I don't understand where it's ending either bc both the breath of the vocals as well as the very prominent piano-note are at 04:58:019 whereas I can't hear anything on the current slidertail.. Also, the sliderticks are just at random places bc of this right now, with my new timing the tick would be exactly at the most prominent piano-note at 04:57:180 if you start it at 04:56:341

Bonsai wrote:

Yo there, I took a look at this map too and noticed a lot of issues with the timing, here's a difficulty with correct timing ←really nice. since it turned out to be quite a lot of stuff to change, I initially made a list of the issues though so read the box if you're interested in what was off/wrong

Kibbleru wrote:

hey u need to add a red line on 01:28:568 - , because 01:27:818 - makes the timing signature off by 2 beats for the entire map lol

Bonsai wrote:

Also, two points concerning Qingyi Insane that I noticed during timing:

1. 00:25:588 (1) - Why are you extending this to the blue tick even though there is already a very distinct drum-hit on the red tick at 00:27:629 -? That's extremely irritating to play imo, feels very unnatural to forcedfully keep holding the slider even though there's already a beat that I wanna interact with yea if it's really strange to play it's sure i can change them
2. 04:56:153 (1) - I also find it quite unnatural to start the slider with the vocals here because the previous slider is only following the piano and ignoring the vocal notes in-between, and I don't understand where it's ending either bc both the breath of the vocals as well as the very prominent piano-note are at 04:58:019 whereas I can't hear anything on the current slidertail.. Also, the sliderticks are just at random places bc of this right now, with my new timing the tick would be exactly at the most prominent piano-note at 04:57:180 if you start it at 04:56:341 those messed-up sliderticks should surely be the reason to change

Other than that I personally find the difference between the Kiais mostly fine, I agree with Sonnyc on the thing they pointed out though, and I find it a rather weird that the first Kiai seems generally much more intense than the second one in terms of spacing / difficulty, but the I completely support the stylistic difference. The map looks very nice overall, gz on getting this qualified soon apparently

1. Apparently I messed something up with the timing at the very start, (gladly you already added the one section I accidentally deleted ), the section at 00:12:293 - should be 64,9bpm and the one at 00:12:755 - should be 70,5bpm; other than the everything is correct now!
2. 88886.png is higher than the allowed 1200 pixels, in case I interpret the RC correctly that must be downscaled o:

1. 02:16:566 (1) - slidertails are somewhat unsnapped lol
2. 02:22:543 (1) - This would be more accurate if it were snapped as 1/12 with the same amount of reverses
3. 02:50:691 (1) - This would be more accurate as 1/6 though ^^
4. 03:39:816 (1,1) - I think these would 'blanket' better if 03:39:816 (1) was rotated by +1° but not sure lol
5. 03:25:566 - The green line here is 2ms after the sliderhead which seems unintentional, though I don't really understand why you want to make that hitsound so quiet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1. 00:42:066 (1) -mmh what's this slider representing actually? Bc it made me think "oh okay this section isn't very dense" but it's then followed by four pretty dense sections so that didn't make sense to me, I see what 00:49:566 (1) is following but I don't see that at the first one
   same at 02:40:566 (4) -
2. 01:27:066 (1,1) - better leave a buffer between those by removing the last 1/12-reverse so there's no unnecessary combo-breaks, did it at 03:25:566 (1,1) - too
3. 02:09:816 (1,3,4,1) - This looks very clustered aesthetically because autostacking makes (3) be really close to (1), maybe move 02:10:191 (3,4,1) down and to the right a few pixels
4. There are a few slightly unsnapped slidertails: 01:27:066 (1) - 02:15:066 (3) -(at least according to my program O.o) - 02:16:566 (1) - and 03:25:566 (1) - (also only according to program lol idk)
5. 02:22:543 (1) - This would be more accurate if it were snapped as 1/12 with the same amount of reverses
6. Really minor aesthetic stuff, but due to autostacking there is more spacing in 02:27:066 (1,2,3) - and 02:29:316 (1,2,3) - causing a followpoint to appear while there is less space in 02:27:816 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -which makes it seem slightly messy imo, increasing the two smaller ones is probably the way to go as there are followpoints appearing between all following objects too ^^
7. 02:58:941 (6,1,2,3) - This feels a bit weird to play to me because the spacing between (6,1) is double as much as between (1,2,3) but they are one continous flow, forcing the player to slow down without changing movement.. Maybe make (1,2,3) in a different direction, or maybe use circles like at 01:00:066 (1,2,3,4,1) - again, I liked that a lot
8. 03:04:566 (1,2,3,4) - Are these supposed to be so short? Feels very odd, the vocals seem much longer than just 1/8 to me, and there are other disctinct notes on the 1/4s too, so I'd recommend extending them, I don't really understand why you're interrupting the continuous 1/4-rhythm here
   same at 03:07:566 (1,2,3,4) - ofc
9. 04:05:316 (1,2) - maybe move these down/right by a few pixels too bc of autostack, basically you only see this ingame
10. 04:14:316 (3,4,5,6,1) - the spacing-decrease seems a bit 'uneven' to me, I'd reduce the spacing between (3,4) to around x0.35, idk
11. 04:22:566 (3,4) - Ignoring the note at 04:22:847 - and overmapping the 1/4 instead seems rather out of place, would make it more interesting if you extended (3) to there imo
12. 04:43:191 (1,2) - This gap seems really awkward, kinda looks like you intended to let (1)reverse (if you didn't intend it then I recommend it now )
13. 05:01:778 (1) - This is completely a matter of taste of course, but to me it seems a bit random that there is nothing after that spinner / that it ends at that spot: the vocals kinda end more at 05:04:591 -, but if you wanna keep it that long then I'd recommend to map the following piano-hits (or at least only the next one) too like in the other Insane maybe, because the Piano is playing a (musically) major scale which would feel more 'finished' if it included the octave at 05:06:241 - instead of currently ending at the fifth 8^)

Bonsai wrote:

re-check for the timing, and actual check of the map itself as I've been asked to rebubble :3

General

1. Apparently I messed something up with the timing at the very start, (gladly you already added the one section I accidentally deleted ), the section at 00:12:293 - should be 64,9bpm and the one at 00:12:755 - should be 70,5bpm; other than the everything is correct now! fix
2. 88886.png is higher than the allowed 1200 pixels, in case I interpret the RC correctly that must be downscaled o: fix

Lingren Insane

1. 02:16:566 (1) - slidertails are somewhat unsnapped lol fix
2. 02:22:543 (1) - This would be more accurate if it were snapped as 1/12 with the same amount of reverses fix
3. 02:50:691 (1) - This would be more accurate as 1/6 though ^^ fix
4. 03:39:816 (1,1) - I think these would 'blanket' better if 03:39:816 (1) was rotated by +1° but not sure lol fix
5. 03:25:566 - The green line here is 2ms after the sliderhead which seems unintentional, though I don't really understand why you want to make that hitsound so quiet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ fix

Bonsai wrote:

re-check for the timing, and actual check of the map itself as I've been asked to rebubble :3

Qingyi Insane

1. 00:42:066 (1) -mmh what's this slider representing actually? Bc it made me think "oh okay this section isn't very dense" but it's then followed by four pretty dense sections so that didn't make sense to me, I see what 00:49:566 (1) is following but I don't see that at the first one
   same at 02:40:566 (4) - yea ofc, fixed
2. 01:27:066 (1,1) - better leave a buffer between those by removing the last 1/12-reverse so there's no unnecessary combo-breaks, did it at 03:25:566 (1,1) - too sounds cool
3. 02:09:816 (1,3,4,1) - This looks very clustered aesthetically because autostacking makes (3) be really close to (1), maybe move 02:10:191 (3,4,1) down and to the right a few pixels sure
4. There are a few slightly unsnapped slidertails: 01:27:066 (1) - 02:15:066 (3) -(at least according to my program O.o) - 02:16:566 (1) - and 03:25:566 (1) - (also only according to program lol idk) it looks perfectly snapped here lol, did some adjustments but idk whether it works
5. 02:22:543 (1) - This would be more accurate if it were snapped as 1/12 with the same amount of reverses sure
6. Really minor aesthetic stuff, but due to autostacking there is more spacing in 02:27:066 (1,2,3) - and 02:29:316 (1,2,3) - causing a followpoint to appear while there is less space in 02:27:816 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -which makes it seem slightly messy imo, increasing the two smaller ones is probably the way to go as there are followpoints appearing between all following objects too ^^ having "stacking" on in editor and it shows only 0.01x error which may not be notable imo, and slight changes might cause further inconsistency i guess
7. 02:58:941 (6,1,2,3) - This feels a bit weird to play to me because the spacing between (6,1) is double as much as between (1,2,3) but they are one continous flow, forcing the player to slow down without changing movement.. Maybe make (1,2,3) in a different direction, or maybe use circles like at 01:00:066 (1,2,3,4,1) - again, I liked that a lot changed the directions of those 2 sliders, hope its ok
8. 03:04:566 (1,2,3,4) - Are these supposed to be so short? Feels very odd, the vocals seem much longer than just 1/8 to me, and there are other disctinct notes on the 1/4s too, so I'd recommend extending them, I don't really understand why you're interrupting the continuous 1/4-rhythm here oops this is certainly a mistake when handling with timing points, fixed
   same at 03:07:566 (1,2,3,4) - ofc
9. 04:05:316 (1,2) - maybe move these down/right by a few pixels too bc of autostack, basically you only see this ingame fixed
10. 04:14:316 (3,4,5,6,1) - the spacing-decrease seems a bit 'uneven' to me, I'd reduce the spacing between (3,4) to around x0.35, idk x0.35 seems a bit low imo, however did some adjustments
11. 04:22:566 (3,4) - Ignoring the note at 04:22:847 - and overmapping the 1/4 instead seems rather out of place, would make it more interesting if you extended (3) to there imo i did not intend to follow that sound as i said in my previous posts, this 1/2 slider means to express the "flowing" sound of that flute (? idk). however if it matters please let me know, i will change it
12. 04:43:191 (1,2) - This gap seems really awkward, kinda looks like you intended to let (1)reverse (if you didn't intend it then I recommend it now ) okay
13. 05:01:778 (1) - This is completely a matter of taste of course, but to me it seems a bit random that there is nothing after that spinner / that it ends at that spot: the vocals kinda end more at 05:04:591 -, but if you wanna keep it that long then I'd recommend to map the following piano-hits (or at least only the next one) too like in the other Insane maybe, because the Piano is playing a (musically) major scale which would feel more 'finished' if it included the octave at 05:06:241 - instead of currently ending at the fifth 8^) i tried putting the finish at 05:04:591 - but it sounds no better than it is now, i think. want to keep it as it is and i guess this would not be a problem

Bonsai wrote:

In Lingren 02:22:543 (1) should only have three reverses like before but shorter because there aren't so many notes, like this

fix

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Bonsai wrote:

Everything looks fine now, here you go!

Kibbleru wrote:

approved!