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riffy
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 25 июня 2017 г. at 23:39:57

Artist: Mars Argo
Title: Using You
Tags: Corey Mixter Brittany Sheets Liuth Linden Place EP alternative rock dream pop grocerybag indie titanic sinclair
BPM: 107
Filesize: 26125kb
Play Time: 03:31
Difficulties Available:
  1. Average (1,9 stars, 229 notes)
  2. Delusion (2,97 stars, 409 notes)
  3. Liuth's Simple (1,38 stars, 154 notes)
Download: Mars Argo - Using You
Download: Mars Argo - Using You (no video)
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Gordon123
hello owo
[Liuth's Simple]

  • I think u can add slidertickrate : 2 ! it'll give more sounds in ur diff how : 01:29:935 (1) - here 01:39:468 (2) - etc.
    02:10:870 (2,2) - idk really about this overlap...it is not prohibited?
    02:19:281 (1,2) - could you flip them for better flow
    03:01:898 (1,2) - Could you place the (1) away from the (2) - couse for new players will be little unclear how to play this place!
[Average]

  • 00:51:804 (5) - переделай этот слайдер в круг,а за ним мини слайдер,т.к. ты упускаешь вариацию звуков! > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6981705
    00:54:888 - тут удар,круг бы сюда)
    01:52:926 (2) - ctrl+j
    02:14:234 (9) - 9 комбо не перебор?
    03:27:692 (6,7) - сократи до слайдера? - лучше звучит.
[Hard]

  • тебе бы переименовать Hard во что нибудь другое,т.к. 2е первые диффы модняво названы,так и эту назови :D
    а давай кс уменьшим до 4.6-4.8 ,а та мелочь какая то!
    02:40:870 - мне кажется или нет,но тут брейк,зачем он там,если в других диффах его не было!
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You're the Only one~

Красивая песня ;3
Good Luck ;)
Liuth

Gordon123 wrote:

[Liuth's Simple]

  • I think u can add slidertickrate : 2 ! it'll give more sounds in ur diff how : 01:29:935 (1) - here 01:39:468 (2) - etc. Meh, I'll leave it as it is, since it sounds more clear. But thanks for suggestion!
    02:10:870 (2,2) - idk really about this overlap...it is not prohibited? As long as it is readable - and in my opinion it is, since second slider appears when ball is nearly at the end of first slider - I can keep it.
    02:19:281 (1,2) - could you flip them for better flow I don't see any flow issues here.
    03:01:898 (1,2) - Could you place the (1) away from the (2) - couse for new players will be little unclear how to play this place! Moved this circle a bit more up.
Thanks for mod and suggestions!
Topic Starter
riffy
Пофиксил брейк в харде, но цс и диффнейм пока оставил. Там меньше 5 не играется, а по жиффнеймам пока ничего в голову не идет. По нормалу потом отпишу.

Cпасибо!

edit:

Gordon123 wrote:

hello owo

[Average]

  • 00:51:804 (5) - переделай этот слайдер в круг,а за ним мини слайдер,т.к. ты упускаешь вариацию звуков! > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6981705 а не перебор для нормала будет?
    00:54:888 - тут удар,круг бы сюда) а вокалов нет!
    01:52:926 (2) - ctrl+j не-не, тут нужен такой флоу
    02:14:234 (9) - 9 комбо не перебор? ну, многовато, но не 10 же. + вокалы вытягивают на что-то тяжелое
    03:27:692 (6,7) - сократи до слайдера? - лучше звучит. но там так ударные покатились :c
Good Luck ;)
Andrea
Hello there! Mod as requested.

~General~
  1. There's an unsnapped green line at 01:43:395 in every difficulty, it's not really mandatory to fix but I highly suggest to do so, especially because you have a slider starting there in two difficulties out of three.
~Liuth's Simple~
  1. 01:38:907 (1,2) - This circle and this slider could be blanketed better together if you make the slider a bit more curved.
  2. 02:10:870 (2) - I would suggest to avoid using so many slider repeats on an Easy difficulty since it might be tricky for new players, you can split this in two sliders instead if you really don't wanna add any circle there.
  3. 02:15:356 (2) - Same as above.
  4. 03:01:898 (1,2) - This is probably the only overlap in this difficulty and I kinda dislike it, I suggest you to revert the slider by 180° and fix the spacing accordingly, this way you won't have any overlap, and it will actually flow better.
  5. 03:06:945 (2,3) - Another weird overlap, here the suggestion I said above doesn't work though, so you could simply respace this pattern as you wish, if you ever want to fix, even though I saw you used this kind of overlap afterwards as well, so I won't mention the rest, you got the idea, though!
~Average~
  1. 00:55:169 (2) - Making this slider straight instead of slightly curved would give a better look on this pattern imo.
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - If you listen to the end of this slider properly, it sounds kinda off, try ending it at 01:44:421, seems to be more accuracted if you listen to the singer's voice with 25% playback rate (1/6 snapping).
  3. 03:27:692 (6,7,8,9,1) - Kinda too many circles in a row for a Normal, if you ask me, I'd try adding a slider here at least.
~Hard~
  1. This difficulty is missing the Widescreen Support, make sure to enable it.
  2. AR7 seems to be more than enough imo, you should try it.
  1. 01:04:702 (5,6,1) - Slight spacing inconsistency, would be better if you can use the same spacing on this pattern, looks a bit strange right now.
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - Same comment of Average difficulty.
  3. 02:24:748 (4,5,6) - This rhythm is quite hard to tell at first sight, you could try to replace it with a slider and make it like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7061290 It plays way better imo, hope you will try it out.
  4. 03:19:842 (1) - I don't think this soft-sliderwhistle here is intended, you should remove it if it's a mistake.
Not much to say, great mapset as always, keep it up!
Topic Starter
riffy

Andrea wrote:

Hello there! Mod as requested.

~General~
  1. There's an unsnapped green line at 01:43:395 in every difficulty, it's not really mandatory to fix but I highly suggest to do so, especially because you have a slider starting there in two difficulties out of three. It was designed to make the sliderslide sound softer, so I unsnapped it further to make it work on Hard and removed it from E/N.
~Average~
  1. 00:55:169 (2) - Making this slider straight instead of slightly curved would give a better look on this pattern imo. the idea of the curve here is to make the transition from (1) softer, I would feel uncomfortable with having three straight sliders in a row
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - If you listen to the end of this slider properly, it sounds kinda off, try ending it at 01:44:421, seems to be more accuracted if you listen to the singer's voice with 25% playback rate (1/6 snapping). Artist needs to explain that, good point!
  3. 03:27:692 (6,7,8,9,1) - Kinda too many circles in a row for a Normal, if you ask me, I'd try adding a slider here at least. Good point, but I feel like it works as a nice finishing touch. I'll try to get more opinions!
~Hard~
  1. This difficulty is missing the Widescreen Support, make sure to enable it. Disabled it in Normal instead, it's a storyboard-only feature :)
  2. AR7 seems to be more than enough imo, you should try it. True that, originally made it with AR7 in mind but then changed for whatever reason. happy we've brought it back to 7.

  1. 01:04:702 (5,6,1) - Slight spacing inconsistency, would be better if you can use the same spacing on this pattern, looks a bit strange right now.
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - Same comment of Average difficulty.
  3. 02:24:748 (4,5,6) - This rhythm is quite hard to tell at first sight, you could try to replace it with a slider and make it like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7061290 It plays way better imo, hope you will try it out. I'd really prefer to stick to the pattern I have here, it is linear and it makes it stand out in a way, just like the music suddenly shits to drums. I did, however, unstack (6,7) for better readability. It should feel better with AR7 as well.
  4. 03:19:842 (1) - I don't think this soft-sliderwhistle here is intended, you should remove it if it's a mistake. Should've been a normal one instead
Not much to say, great mapset as always, keep it up!
Thanks a lot! Simple is ip to Liuth, I'll let them know soon \w/
Liuth

Andrea wrote:

~Liuth's Simple~
  1. 01:38:907 (1,2) - This circle and this slider could be blanketed better together if you make the slider a bit more curved. Good suggestion, fixed.
  2. 02:10:870 (2) - I would suggest to avoid using so many slider repeats on an Easy difficulty since it might be tricky for new players, you can split this in two sliders instead if you really don't wanna add any circle there. 2/1*3 sliders are long (and slow) enough on easy difficulty to be readable as for me, so I'll keep them as they are unless it would be really necessary to change them.
  3. 02:15:356 (2) - Same as above.
  4. 03:01:898 (1,2) - This is probably the only overlap in this difficulty and I kinda dislike it, I suggest you to revert the slider by 180° and fix the spacing accordingly, this way you won't have any overlap, and it will actually flow better. The idea of overlaps was just because of the most intense part of the song, if more people would point that out I'll change that.
  5. 03:06:945 (2,3) - Another weird overlap, here the suggestion I said above doesn't work though, so you could simply respace this pattern as you wish, if you ever want to fix, even though I saw you used this kind of overlap afterwards as well, so I won't mention the rest, you got the idea, though! same as above.
ZekeyHache
reminder post~
Well well well, what do we have here.. hmm.. a pretty girl with short hair in the video? I could expect nothing less from Bakari!
Let's hope no one complains about the video being an mp4 cuz it plays just fine here and I guess it does too with you since u put it, idk why some people can't play them~

[Liuth's Simple]
  1. 02:22:085 (4,5) - blanket can be improved
[Average]
  1. 00:45:075 (1,2) - The transition from (1) to (2) feels awkward, I can't really explain it, but I just don't like how it feels, perhaps you can notice this too~
  2. 00:55:169 (2) - the pattern would look cleaner if this was straight like this (I have nothing against gay sliders tho)~
  3. 01:13:954 (3,4) - blanket can be improved
  4. 01:18:159 (2,3) - plssss Mr. Bakarino, y'know this one is too off :v
  5. 03:04:141 (4,5) - I'm not a fan of this transition just as my first point
[Hard]
  1. Feels better with AR7.5 imo
  2. 01:53:487 (3,4,5,6,1) - EmPhAsIs sir~ The spacing from (4) to (5) is bigger than the one from (6) to (1), which is noticeably more important~
  3. 01:56:010 (5) - since is the sound between two similar sets of sounds, wouldn't it be reasonable to have equal spacing between previous and next object?
  4. 01:56:851 (1) - I feel this deserves a larger spacing for emphasis
  5. 01:25:449 (1) - ^ note: in case you wanna put that the spacing is smaller because the song is more calm here, remember u did jump at 01:29:935 (1) -
  6. 02:01:057 (5) - there's more spacing from the previous note when the next one is more important
  7. 02:07:786 (7) - same, and this one is super obvious sir
  8. 02:51:804 (4) - Previous and next object should be spaced equally imo cuz the strenght of the vocals is the same, plus there's also a drum in (5), so it shouldn't have any lower spacing than (3).
  9. 03:04:141 (1,2) - You shouldn't repeat this concept here because you used it for a different situation at 01:35:543 (4,5,1) -
  10. 03:28:814 (1) - come on, it's the last beat and it's pretty strong, use at least 2x spacing~
I guess it just needs a bit more polishing in the highest diff, good luck for now~ Feel free to call me back when you think it's ready~
Topic Starter
riffy
Applied everything but changing patterns like 00:45:075 (1,2) -those are classy zigzags, should be fairly easy and playable. @Normal Oh, and Simple is up to Liuth!

Thanks a lot!

Edit: renamed the video file to be safe. Mars argo is still the best girl ♥

Edit2: Ar is back to 7, it just feels a bit slower this way, and that's what I want it to be as to match the vocals
TheMefisto
Hello

[Liuth's Simple]
  1. 00:31:617 (1) - I guess, you can improve this sliderwave, because now it looks not really good imo
    Well, you can apply this suggestion to every sliderwave, if you'd agree
  2. 01:42:272 (3,1) - DS here a bit messed, it's 1.1x instead of 1.0x. Not a big deal, but better reduce this to 1.0x to avoid any problems
  3. 01:45:636 (1,2) - This sounds a bit confusing, because here 01:46:477 - 01:47:599 - is same sound as on red ticks on repeat sliders. You can try to place 1/1 sliders instead to avoid missreading (and same here 02:41:711 (1,2) - )
  4. 02:10:870 (2,2) - Long sliders with more than 1 repeat plays realy boring even to easy diff. It would be better, if you change these sliders to something like this (or something else, this is just example)
  5. 02:52:926 (1,2) - Same DS error as before
[Average]
  1. 00:35:543 (6) - 1/2 слайдер тут передаст вокал получше немного (То же самое относится и к следующему такому моменту 00:53:487 (7) - , так что если надумаешь - то посмотри все такие "пробелы")
  2. 01:05:262 (1) - Возможно странное предложение, но попробуй нарисовать здесь какой-нибудь слайдер вот до сюда 01:06:945 - , хорошо подойдет ведь
  3. 02:05:823 - - 02:06:103 - Зачем киаи-то включать тут? ( ._.)
    Почти нечего и сказать-то тут, все хорошо (Разве что немного ритм можно изменить, как я выше написал)
[Hard]
  1. 00:33:860 (1) - Не очень понимаю, зачем ты сюда на начало слайдера поставил вистл, если потом его на таких же моментах вообще не используешь (00:38:346 (1) - , 00:42:832 (1) - , 00:47:318 (1) - и т.д.)
  2. 01:06:384 (2) - Как-то не очень хорошо звучит (наверное, из-за попадания драма на конец слайдера), я бы предложил попробовать 2 круга вместо слайдера, либо как-то так
  3. 01:12:832 (3,4) - Совсем близко стоят, может, стоит немного раздвинуть? (вот в этом моменте как-то лучше это дело обстоит 01:21:804 (2,3) - )
  4. 01:26:010 - Вистл на конце потерял? На остальных есть
  5. 01:48:440 (2,3) - У тебя же кастомные стаки были. Может, вынести (3) наверх немного?
  6. 01:56:290 (6,7,8) - Да, все нормально, под инструменты подходит, но обычный слайдер тут как-то приятнее звучит. Ну и под вокал хорошо идет (как в первом киае, например)
  7. 03:27:692 (4,5,6,7) - Ну не подходит ведь звук для стаков ;w; Попробуй джампы попробовать (С небольшим спейсингом, как тут, например 03:18:720 (5,6,7,8) -, или даже поменьше)
  8. 03:29:094 - На других диффах спиннер крутится на 10% громкости, а тут на 100%. Сомневаюсь, что это такая задумка

Не забудь во всех диффах хитсаунды посмотреть (Особенно на изике, туда не совсем хорошо скопировалось, как мне кажется)
Удачи!
Topic Starter
riffy
I will reply the moment I get enough motivation to move the set forward, I appreciate the help a lot.

На харде оставил 01:56:290 (6,7,8) т.к. триплет там ну очень нравится. И стаки на 03:27:692 (4,5,6,7) - тоже оставил, мне нравится, как они идут даблами. Как раз для конца карты.

На нормале пока оставлю как есть ритм, очень не хочу грузить игроков, кажется он работает с вокалами очень круто. А слайдер не хочу рисовать из-за того, что там вокалы рваные. На счет киая не знаю, пока оставлю, там же очень круто потом меняется музыка, хочется выделить.

Спасибо!

Update: I also checked Lith's stuff, kept the simple sliderwaves because I find them quite neat in a way and 02:10:870 (2,2) - these are left unchanged because I absolutely adore the way they emphasise vocals.

thanks again!
Ashton
can you map a that poppy song next?
Topic Starter
riffy
I don't really want to, that Poppy is a completely different artist and I don't enjoy her/her and Titanic's music as much.

I wouldn't mind making a GD if you decide to map something from her, though.
Wafu
Planning to mod this by the end of this week, just a reminder for myself.
Ashton

Bakari wrote:

I don't really want to, that Poppy is a completely different artist and I don't enjoy her/her and Titanic's music as much.

I wouldn't mind making a GD if you decide to map something from her, though.

I'm mapping "Altar" right now... so maybe you can make the hard?? idk.. I'll show you the map if you'd like when i upload it
Aurele
yo Bakari, revive this
Topic Starter
riffy
I kinda want to rank it at the same day with Beauty Is Empty, gotta finish both of them first
Pachiru
[Hard]
  1. 00:32:739 (4) - In my opinion, that would be better to have it a bit spaced here, 'cause the lyric is pretty strong here, somehow like you make this here: 00:34:702 (3) -
  2. 00:36:384 - Since you're focused on the lyrics till the begining, that would be good to map this beat, because it feels quite strange to play this beat 00:36:664 (2) - after a 1/1 break in this case.
  3. 00:40:029 (4) - It might be better to reduce the spacing here, and make it constant, in x1.1 like you did before, also I think that those beats 00:39:468 (3,4) - lacks of flow a bit, it could be improved.
  4. 00:48:440 (4,5) - Why not making those two beats as a 1/2 slider? Since they are in the same word as this slider 00:49:001 (6) - that would be cool to have those beats: 00:48:440 (4,5) - making the "ha" vocal and this one 00:49:001 (6) - "ppy" that would have a better sense in my point of view (I hope you got it owo)
  5. 00:53:487 (5,6) - It feel pretty strange to have those two notes stacked, since they are not making at least one same beat that could imply those notes being stacked, but I think that this point is more a personnal opinion!
  6. 01:43:393 (1) - Making this beat ending on an unusual sound is quite strange, you could try to make this end on a 1/1 beat;
  7. 02:06:945 (4,6) - The spacing here looks quite strange, the distance between those beats: 02:07:225 (5,6) - 02:06:945 (4,5) - are different, that's logic, but why the distance here 02:06:945 (4,5) - is higher than here 02:07:225 (5,6) - but the note "5" is on a downbeat, and there is no reason to make this high spaced. Making the spacing higher here 02:07:225 (5,6) - would make more sense !
  8. 02:25:309 (6,7) - In a gameplay view, I think that it should be better to convert this into a slider, because this part use unusual rhythm, and it can be quite "misread" by the players if they are playing the map for the first time I guess, apart from that, the rhythm use is pretty good :)
  9. 02:45:356 (5,6) - Same as I said before, that would make more sense to have a higher spacing here: 02:45:356 (5,6) - instead of here 02:45:075 (4,5) -
  10. 03:26:290 (5,2,3) - The overlap here can be quite misread so the player think that it might be it's an 1/4 pattern, try to separate a little bit those double not so the player could not be fool
  11. Maybe call this diff "Challenging" to fit with the diff name pattern?
[Normal]
  1. 00:33:860 (4) - That would be a good idea to making this a reverse slider instead, to make this quite harder, and to fit with this slider: 00:32:739 (3) - since it has the same kind of vocal rhythm, and the player would not be disoriented owo!
  2. 00:46:758 (4,5,6,7,8) - I tried a rhythm here, that would be interesting to me. First, you could try to make this 00:46:758 (4,5,6) - a 1/1 reverse slider, and then making those two beats 00:48:440 (7,8) - a circle on both 1/1 ticks. Indeed you'll avoid the 1/2 beat where the slider where, but I think that would make more sense, since you're following the vocal on this part.
  3. 00:58:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - This part feels strange to hear in way of rhythm use, especially for those sliders: 00:58:533 (1,3) - I think that you could try something like this https://puu.sh/vDmlR/cec0973510.png that would make more sense to use 1/1 here, because the 1/1 vocals part start here: 00:59:094 - so that would make more sense to keep this one: 00:58:533 (1) - in 1/2
  4. 01:19:561 (4,5,6,1) - Try to make this beat less linear so the flow would be better in that case
  5. 01:25:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (and go on) I think you should try to use more 1/1 beats especially here because this part is pretty calm here.
  6. I feel that strange to have some strong beats that are not even mapped, even not on a slider, but I think it's your choice anyway :)
[Liuth' Simple]
  1. 00:36:664 (2) - Why not shorten this slider, and adding a note here: 00:37:786 - to add some diversities
  2. 01:08:627 (2,3,4,5) - Try to rework this pattern as much as you can, I mean, the flow here is not pretty good, you could do much better since you're using circles here!
  3. 01:45:916 (1,2) - I think that you should rework the pattern use here, because making those two beats clickable as a 1/2 might be pretty hard, especially for this beat: 01:47:038 (2) - because the player will don't have idea when to click on this slider: 01:47:879 (1) - because there is a different rhythm pause gap between here: 01:45:916 (1,2) - and here: 01:47:038 (2,1) - also, you're missing a beat here: 01:47:599 - that you mapped here: 01:45:916 (1) - so it could add more issues to it in my opinion obviously.
  4. I'm not sure about it, but points like this 02:10:870 (2,2) - are not good to use in Easy because of the high amount of repeats.
  5. 02:41:991 (1,2) - Same as I said previously, this get pretty strange to play
  6. 03:01:898 (1,2) - This overlap is pretty meh, try arrange it in a way that could be avoided!
Good luck with the set :)
Topic Starter
riffy

Pachiru wrote:

[Hard]
  1. 00:32:739 (4) - In my opinion, that would be better to have it a bit spaced here, 'cause the lyric is pretty strong here, somehow like you make this here: 00:34:702 (3) - spaced!
  2. 00:36:384 - Since you're focused on the lyrics till the begining, that would be good to map this beat, because it feels quite strange to play this beat 00:36:664 (2) - after a 1/1 break in this case. The goal was to give 00:36:664 (2) - some extra emphasis as well as add a nice touch to the (1) which would also stand out. I didn't change it, I instead changed the next pattern to make it more consistent
  3. 00:40:029 (4) - It might be better to reduce the spacing here, and make it constant, in x1.1 like you did before, also I think that those beats 00:39:468 (3,4) - lacks of flow a bit, it could be improved. It generally fluctuates here and there, but I think it's fine spacing-wise. As for the flow, they use the same more or less linear flow I use throughout the map.
  4. 00:48:440 (4,5) - Why not making those two beats as a 1/2 slider? Since they are in the same word as this slider 00:49:001 (6) - that would be cool to have those beats: 00:48:440 (4,5) - making the "ha" vocal and this one 00:49:001 (6) - "ppy" that would have a better sense in my point of view (I hope you got it owo) Yet that'd leave the drums out, and again, I follow the mix of both drums and the vocals, proritizing vocals, but mapping drums as well whever possible.
  5. 00:53:487 (5,6) - It feel pretty strange to have those two notes stacked, since they are not making at least one same beat that could imply those notes being stacked, but I think that this point is more a personnal opinion! That represents the way drums fade and the lyrics, which have just some "a" which is pretty weak. So, the stack stops flow because there isn't much dynamic in the song
  6. 01:43:393 (1) - Making this beat ending on an unusual sound is quite strange, you could try to make this end on a 1/1 beat; that's where the vocals peak, though
  7. 02:06:945 (4,6) - The spacing here looks quite strange, the distance between those beats: 02:07:225 (5,6) - 02:06:945 (4,5) - are different, that's logic, but why the distance here 02:06:945 (4,5) - is higher than here 02:07:225 (5,6) - but the note "5" is on a downbeat, and there is no reason to make this high spaced. Making the spacing higher here 02:07:225 (5,6) - would make more sense ! Good point!
  8. 02:25:309 (6,7) - In a gameplay view, I think that it should be better to convert this into a slider, because this part use unusual rhythm, and it can be quite "misread" by the players if they are playing the map for the first time I guess, apart from that, the rhythm use is pretty good :) 02:23:767 (1,2,3) - these are meant to warn players, so it shuld be pretty easy to read. Besides, it is consistent in terms of spacing and the drums are pretty repetitive, I'm sure it is really easy to get it right
  9. 02:45:356 (5,6) - Same as I said before, that would make more sense to have a higher spacing here: 02:45:356 (5,6) - instead of here 02:45:075 (4,5) - (5) has a very sistinct drum sound, though, it kinda feels more important to me
  10. 03:26:290 (5,2,3) - The overlap here can be quite misread so the player think that it might be it's an 1/4 pattern, try to separate a little bit those double not so the player could not be fool that's a manual stack, though. it is just like a reguklar one, except neater
  11. Maybe call this diff "Challenging" to fit with the diff name pattern? Great idea! Though I'd prefer a custom difficulty name :p
[Normal]
  1. 00:33:860 (4) - That would be a good idea to making this a reverse slider instead, to make this quite harder, and to fit with this slider: 00:32:739 (3) - since it has the same kind of vocal rhythm, and the player would not be disoriented owo! since 00:34:702 (5) - uses pretty non-standard snapping I am kind of easing players into it. Besides, I feel like the slider does pretty much the same thing as 00:32:739 (3) - in terms of stressing beats. I'll keep it, I suppose.
  2. 00:46:758 (4,5,6,7,8) - I tried a rhythm here, that would be interesting to me. First, you could try to make this 00:46:758 (4,5,6) - a 1/1 reverse slider, and then making those two beats 00:48:440 (7,8) - a circle on both 1/1 ticks. Indeed you'll avoid the 1/2 beat where the slider where, but I think that would make more sense, since you're following the vocal on this part. that was meant to be a clever mix of vocals and drums. notice how the 1/2s fit wit hthe increasing intensit yof the vocals and drums. besides, a 1/1 slider with a reverse would take the emphasis off the vocals as they would become unclickable.
  3. 00:58:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - This part feels strange to hear in way of rhythm use, especially for those sliders: 00:58:533 (1,3) - I think that you could try something like this https://puu.sh/vDmlR/cec0973510.png that would make more sense to use 1/1 here, because the 1/1 vocals part start here: 00:59:094 - so that would make more sense to keep this one: 00:58:533 (1) - in 1/2 sounds like a cool idea, sure!
  4. 01:19:561 (4,5,6,1) - Try to make this beat less linear so the flow would be better in that case but that kind of linear flow sort of works with my style, I guess avodiing linear patterns here would require reworking a lot of things. flow is a very contextual thing, you know
  5. 01:25:449 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - (and go on) I think you should try to use more 1/1 beats especially here because this part is pretty calm here. Reduced the difficulty slightly to match the rhythm and the spread better
  6. I feel that strange to have some strong beats that are not even mapped, even not on a slider, but I think it's your choice anyway :) I guess it has something to do with the filtering I do with the rhythm. MArs is a very unique artist, so I tried something fancy here

Good luck with the set :)
Thanks a lot, I'll get Liuth to check it later!
Topic Starter
riffy
late updoot for Liuth, 01:08:627 (2,3,4,5) - I kept this as it seemed mo match his style of patterning, I also kept 01:45:916 (1,2) - as the BPM is really low and it seems to match the music, also 02:10:870 (2,2) - is the gem both me and Liuth love as this matches the vocals really well and is still easy to read

I also kept overlaps as Liuth intended them to be as a difficulty progression thing for the last kiai.

Thanks a lot!
ZekeyHache

Wafu wrote:

Planning to mod this by the end of this week, just a reminder for myself.
oh boi, how long are Wafu's weeks? lul
and why do I get Poppy suggestions on youtube when I watch this? ._.

Moving to the set, has Liuth's diff been updated with every mod so far? Seems like the only thing I suggested to improve on that diff is still there and there's no reply~

[General]
  1. Check with modding assistant for unsnapped stuff
  2. Your video's ratio is wider than the common 16:9, which makes the game to zoom the video to fit the screen, and that hides part of the video + the zoom itself makes it look with less quality. Here I fixed it for you with black bars.
[Average]
  1. 00:55:169 (2,3) - Not parallel
  2. 01:18:159 (2,3) - Off blanket
  3. 01:19:561 (4) - You could curve it a bit more for a better blanket and the pattern looks neater
  4. 01:31:337 (2) - The spacing is notably off here
  5. 03:04:982 (5) - Spacing is notably off here as well, but also here the flow is a bit awkward, I would suggest putting the circle at x:467 y:290
  6. 03:16:197 (2) - spacing
[Delusion]
  1. 01:13:674 (5) - Check the spacing of the previous and next objects. You will notice that the previous object has a higher spacing than the previous one, but the next one is stronger. So yeah, you should reduce the spacing from (4) to (5) and increase it from (5) to (1) so you show emphasis where it should be, in the stronger notes.
  2. 01:15:916 (6) - Basically the same as above~
The rest of the map looks fine imo, I just didn't notice these when I first checked, plus I feel this better since last time as well~
Topic Starter
riffy
I kept the flow for 03:04:141 (4,5,6) - on Average as it pretty much the same thing as 03:02:459 (2,3,4) - should be pretty natural. the unsnapped line on Adv/Hard are there to mute the slidertail, I also moved it a little to prevent any ossibly DT/NC related issues.

Fixed things for Liuth as well, so yeah!

Wafu's weeks are approximately 5 Kudryavka's long, so yeah.

edit: i can't remember a single time when ezek didn't meme with the video file names
ZekeyHache
don't u feel ashamed of using me for bubbles?
Natsu
General

  1. Metadata?
Delusion

  1. 01:43:393 (1) - there are two green lines, tbh I don't understand what you want to do with them lol
  2. 00:34:702 (3,4,5) - use the same spacing here?, 4 and 5 aren't different in intensity at all
  3. 01:27:692 (1,2,3) - same, at any case 2 is stronger than 3, also you used a similar space in other parts such as 01:29:935 (1,2,3) -
  4. 01:43:393 (1) - eh, I don't think this should end at 1/6, tbh it sounds more like 1/4 (this apply to other diffs with the same snapping)
  5. OD 6 would feels more balanced with the other diffs
Average

  1. 01:43:393 (1) - same as the hardest diff
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - also same with the green lines, just snap the second one to 1/8 or something xD
  3. I'd also reduce the rhythms somehow, because the simple diff is basically 1/1s and this one has a lot of 1/2 circle patterns
Simple

  1. 01:24:328 (4) - eh and 1/2 Repeat slider would fit the drums better, don't forget to add the hitsounds if you do.
  2. 02:10:870 (2,2) - this feels super out of place, it's a slow bpm map doing stuff like this throw away the rhythm, I'd remove both sliders and make the rhythms a bit more dense o.o
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Topic Starter
riffy

Natsu wrote:

General

  1. Metadata?
https://marsargo.bandcamp.com/album/linden-place-ep

Delusion

  1. 01:43:393 (1) - there are two green lines, tbh I don't understand what you want to do with them lol one hitsounds the head, the other mutes the tail
  2. 00:34:702 (3,4,5) - use the same spacing here?, 4 and 5 aren't different in intensity at all
  3. 01:27:692 (1,2,3) - same, at any case 2 is stronger than 3, also you used a similar space in other parts such as 01:29:935 (1,2,3) -
  4. 01:43:393 (1) - eh, I don't think this should end at 1/6, tbh it sounds more like 1/4 (this apply to other diffs with the same snapping) I am sure this is 1/6, though. we've already discussed that somewhere previously
  5. OD 6 would feels more balanced with the other diffs od and jumps are sort of balancing the spread, though
Average

  1. 01:43:393 (1) - same as the hardest diff
  2. 01:43:393 (1) - also same with the green lines, just snap the second one to 1/8 or something xD nah, it's unsnapped just enough to mute the stuff
  3. I'd also reduce the rhythms somehow, because the simple diff is basically 1/1s and this one has a lot of 1/2 circle patterns i think it works, the whole hard is built around jumps and fun stuff, so Normal is dense enough to connect e and h
Simple

  1. 01:24:328 (4) - eh and 1/2 Repeat slider would fit the drums better, don't forget to add the hitsounds if you do.
  2. 02:10:870 (2,2) - this feels super out of place, it's a slow bpm map doing stuff like this throw away the rhythm, I'd remove both sliders and make the rhythms a bit more dense o.o but the intention was to highligt the vocals with a non-standard, yet readable patterns. Mars Argo is such an artist that sort of requires something different and interesting, so both I and Liuth would really prefer to keep the thing
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anything that hasn't been answered is applied

gracias, man!
Ancelysia
should Corey Mixter and Brittney Sheets be in the tags? (since that's both their irl names)
Topic Starter
riffy
I doubt people actually use that to find the song/artist, but it won't hurt. I'll do it next morning!
Natsu

Bakari wrote:

I doubt people actually use that to find the song/artist, but it won't hurt. I'll do it next morning!
do it now, u lazy
Topic Starter
riffy
Updooted the tags, also made sure the 1/6s are fine.
Natsu
bakari is super weird and gordo
Pulse
k00l
Aurele
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alacat
Nice song :3! Gratz~
Namki
Have no idea why haven't you put drum whistles on 00:32:459 - / 00:34:702 - / 00:43:674 - / 00:45:916 - according to 00:39:188 - and 00:48:159 - sorta inconsistencies.
01:35:262 - what about this one? Probably should be drum sampleset instead of addition.
The same goes to 01:37:505 - / 01:39:748 - .
Also, shouldn't there be a whistle 01:43:113 - ?
A clap 01:57:412 - ?
wanna hear some more opinions on this
Topic Starter
riffy
true, man, I went ahead and fixed the stuff, so I just need to update it.

though I'll probably need your help to see if there're more inconsistencies and stuff
Pachiru
Did Liuth answered my mod, or you applied it for him?
Topic Starter
riffy
I applied stuff for him, pretty sure I've editied one of my posts with an answer.
Pachiru
Yes my bad, you answered it, I just didn't noticed your reply with all those yellow in the answer, sorry for bothering, and congratz for rank <3
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