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Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2016-12-09T15:42:05+00:00

Karen wrote:
我是那么可爱

例子

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2016-12-23T17:56:01+00:00

Ayalis wrote:
hi

[another]

카운트다운 해제

OD가 좀 높지않나 하는 느낌 ㅎ;;

[hyper]

카운트다운 해제

난이도가 하드라기엔 슬라이더도 빠르고 좀 어려운 것 같은데, 어나더와의 갭은 괜찮고 노멀과 차이가 좀 큰 것 같다. 사이에 난이도를 하나 더 끼는게 괜찮을 수 있음. 근데 나는 븐이 아니라 자세히는 모르니 참고만 하길 바람.

01:09:183 - 녹색선 제거

01:09:453 - 여기에 노트가 있으면 더 좋을 것 같음.

다 고쳤고, 분포 관련해서는 BN 찾으면 천천히 얘기해보는 걸로 하겠음.

[Kamiya] wrote:
~~from message~~

for m4m #modreq ㅇㅈㅇ

[Another]

01:20:940 (1,3) - unblanket i actually didn't aim to blanket here.

01:13:372 (4,5,6) - I think this way maybe use drum..like01:26:345 (1,2) - this way have some noice in BGM, So maybe lack of some sounds?(drum? ~~but i use drum it's not good XD~~ i don't get it what you do mean...

이상!

제가 믾이 전문용어 못해서 영어로 써 드렸습니닼ㅋ.

~~영어또 너무 이상하지만ㅋㅋ~~

나의 모드를 너에게 도와줄 수 있기를 바랍니다!!
( 눈ㅈ눈)/

希望能帮助到你

thank you for modding

and here is metadata confirming of IamKwaN:

IamKwaN wrote:
Unicode Title: サヨナラ・ヘヴン
Romanised Title: Sayonara Heaven
Unicode Artist: 猫叉Master
Romanised Artist: Nekomata Master
Source: pop'n music 11

References:
http://www.konami.jp/bemani/popn/gs/11/ ... index.html
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/bm2dx/12hs/musiclist/
http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/nekomata_1st/index.html

Akiyama Mizuki

2,710 posts

Joined March 2009

Akiyama Mizuki 2017-01-04T14:06:56+00:00

~~placeholder~~

beginner
AR 좀만 높았으면 해요 처음에 슬라가 약간 터져나오는 느낌임
비기너인 만큼 뭐 딱히 잡을 건 없는데 00:33:372 ~ 01:07:967 - 여기는 하이햇 힛사 안 넣는게 더 어울린다고 생각함

normal
ar 4.3~4.5 od4? 좀 낮은 감이 있음
힛사 개맘에듬 세상에

hyper
01:58:777 (5) - 블랭킷 망가짐..

another
01:03:372 (5,6,1) - 외,,
01:07:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - nc spam하는 게 나을 듯함 1/2로 헷갈릴 수도 있고요

black another
01:07:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 어나더랑 같음
01:40:399 (1) - 슬라로 바꾸시는 게 어떤가요? 01:40:669 - 여기 리듬 빈 게 어색함
01:58:912 (2,3) - 그냥 스택하시는 게 안 헷갈릴 것 같음

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-01-06T17:22:19+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
hyper
01:58:777 (5) - 블랭킷 망가짐.. 내,,

another
01:03:372 (5,6,1) - 외,, 메뉴얼스택 싹 스택으로 바꿈
01:07:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - nc spam하는 게 나을 듯함 1/2로 헷갈릴 수도 있고요 내,,,

모딩 감사합니당

jieusieu

460 posts

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-02-01T17:16:22+00:00

bbj0920 wrote:
normal
ar 4.3~4.5 od4? 좀 낮은 감이 있음 ㄹㅇ
힛사 개맘에듬 세상에

흑 흑..감사합니다

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-02-07T16:17:16+00:00

Ayalis wrote:
hi

[Beomsan]

00:50:129 (7,8,9) - 일직선이 아닌데 좀 맞춰보길 tㅣ발 일단 시도는 했는데 이건 말이 안되는 난이도의 작업임 코드를 내놔라

00:54:994 (1) - 딴 곳은 슬라이더 두개로 쪼개어 놓은 파트를 여기만 반복슬라로 한 이유가 있음? 일관성이 안 맞고 좀 어색함 수정

01:05:940 (1) - 정박보다 1/4박 늦게 스피너가 시작하는 것이 좀 이상함. 앞 서클을 지우고 그리로 스피너를 옮기거나 앞 노트와 스피너 사이의 간격을 좀 줄이면 좋을 듯 1/12

01:10:129 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 과연 이 리듬이 맞는 걸까? 나는 리듬을 좀 수정하는 게 더 듣기 좋은 것 같음. 물론 그러면 뒷 리듬까지 다 수정해야 되니까 하고 싶은 대로 하셈 내가 듣기엔 저 제안한 리듬이 곡을 따라간다고 보기가 어려움

1

01:58:912 (2,3) - 2번 3번 안티점프를 넣은게 좀 별론데 그냥 띄어서 점프를 놓으면? 이건 진짜 말 그대로 "soul" 이다

[Kamiya] wrote:
~~from message~~

for m4m #modreq ㅇㅈㅇ

[Bemo's Black Another]

00:46:885 (3,4) - actually you should disassembly the slider 3 or delete note4 if you want it. just look like 00:38:237 (3,4) - That is definitely a good point. but Idk even though I don't think it's bad lol. There are many things in this map that can not be explained in words.

01:39:588 (3,4) - eh.maybe make some jump if you want(just my subjective opinion),because at here note4 was stress. I tried, but I could not get good results.

01:49:318 (3,4) - two sliders not collateral . tired

bbj0920 wrote:
~~placeholder~~

beginner
AR 좀만 높았으면 해요 처음에 슬라가 약간 터져나오는 느낌임 맵셋 보니깐 다 올려도 괜찮은 듯도 하고 올렸읍
비기너인 만큼 뭐 딱히 잡을 건 없는데 00:33:372 ~ 01:07:967 - 여기는 하이햇 힛사 안 넣는게 더 어울린다고 생각함 힛사 추가하면서 저렇게된거라 우리 킹갓Enon님이 알아서 수정해주실거임 아 빌리브

black another
01:07:967 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 어나더랑 같음 ㅐㅏ
01:40:399 (1) - 슬라로 바꾸시는 게 어떤가요? 01:40:669 - 여기 리듬 빈 게 어색함 저는 이 여백이 좋은거신데... 모딩 설마 그만 받을것도 아니겠고 좀 더 보겠습니다.
01:58:912 (2,3) - 그냥 스택하시는 게 안 헷갈릴 것 같음 이건 정말 앞으로도 설명할 일이 분명 있겠지만 헷갈리고 어렵고 그런 걸 떠나서 이게 제가 느낀 이 부분의 느낌을 노트로 찍었을 뿐이라 도오오오저히 수정을 할 생각이 안들어양

beginner

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Another

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Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-03-01T07:08:27+00:00

Storyboard has added!

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-03-01T18:13:32+00:00

Enon wrote:
Storyboard has added!

퀄리티가 뭐지 미쳐버린 것인가? 뭐지? 자기과시?

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-03-02T07:06:23+00:00

이지.
00:52:831 (3) - 01:01:480 (1) - 콤보 불일치

쥬슈.
00:27:156 (1,2) - 그래도 노말 티어인데, 점프를 없애보실 수 있으세요?
01:38:777 - 힛사 안들림

하이퍼.
od5는 너무 낮은게 아닐지,,?
스택 설정 때문에 00:46:345 (1,2,3) - 01:12:021 (6,1,2) - 01:42:021 (6,7,1) - 의 스택을 인게임으로 확인하시면 의도된 모양대로 나오지 않아 블랭킷이나 간격 등의 퀄리티에 영향을 미칩니다. 스택 리니언시 5로 낮춰주세요.
00:51:480 (3) - 뜬금없이 고곡률 슬라이더가 나와버렸는데, 다른 1/2 슬라이더들의 곡률이 전반적으로 낮게 설정된 것을 고려하면 일관성에서 크게 해가 되는 슬라이더입니다. 곡률 낮춰주세요.

어나더.
나치적이지만 맵을 전반적으로 확인해보시면서 follow point의 인게임 디스플레이를 고려하시면서 간격들을 미세조정해보시기 바랍니다. 대략 1.02x 이상으로는 팔로우포인트가 생기고, 그 이하로는 생기지 않아서 00:17:156 (4,5,6) - 같은 경우 (4,5)와 (5,6)이 시각적으로 다른 효과를 보이는 등 미세하게 오차들이 보입니다. 00:20:400 (1,2,3) - 도 마찬가지고.. 1/2 간격에서 팔로우포인트가 일관적으로 보이지 않게 수정한 번 해보시기 바라요.
01:10:940 (4,5) - 01:36:480 (2,3) - 01:37:561 (6,7) - 01:38:642 (2,3) - 01:40:804 (2,3) - 점프가 심각하게 과합니다. 맵 내의 급격한 난이도 변동은 권장되지 않으며, 그 외에도 음악의 전반적인 페이스를 고려했을 때 특정 지점에서 점프 개념을 쓰는 것은 좋지만 이러한 경우에는 그 도가 지나쳤다고 여겨집니다.
01:33:912 (1,2,3,4) - 조금만 더 신경써 보셔서 오버랩을 없애주세요. 옥에티 같네요.
01:58:237 (3) - S 슬라이더의 모양이 원형 베이스가 아닌데, 혹시 손보실 의향이 있으신지...

범산.
01:12:291 (1,3) - 01:20:940 (1,3) - 이런거에 스택이 생겨서 모양적으로 조금 아쉬운 느낌인데, 스택리니언시4를 써보는건 어떨까요?
01:58:912 (2,3) - 안티 점프의 용례가 상당히 애매한 느낌인데.. 음악에 큰 변화가 없어서 (4) 강조 목적일지라도 그냥 일반적인 간격을 사용하는게 더 자연스러워보이네요.

Last edited by Sonnyc 2017-03-02T07:30:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

jieusieu

460 posts

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-03-02T07:24:19+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
쥬슈.
00:27:156 (1,2) - 그래도 노말 티어인데, 점프를 없애보실 수 있으세요? 있어요
01:38:777 - 힛사 안들림 넹

ㅋㅋ

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Beomsan

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Beomsan 2017-03-02T08:12:57+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
이지.
00:52:831 (3) - 01:01:480 (1) - 콤보 불일치 - 메모장 복붙하는 수고가 더 들 것 같아서 크리에이터에게 맡겼습니다.

범산.
01:12:291 (1,3) - 01:20:940 (1,3) - 이런거에 스택이 생겨서 모양적으로 조금 아쉬운 느낌인데, 스택리니언시4를 써보는건 어떨까요? - 새로운..... 난이도..... 만들기.....
01:58:912 (2,3) - 안티 점프의 용례가 상당히 애매한 느낌인데.. 음악에 큰 변화가 없어서 (4) 강조 목적일지라도 그냥 일반적인 간격을 사용하는게 더 자연스러워보이네요. - 솔직히 이거를 설명할 때 마다 저도 말로는 어떻게 해야할지 참 난제긴 한데, 항상 하는 말은 01:59:183 (4) - 를 강조하는것도 물론 중요하지만 더불어서 01:59:318 (1) - 여기에 일반적인 간격을 사용했을 때 보다 훨씬 더 강한 에임으로 강렬한 느낌의 끝맺음을 하고싶다는 생각이고, 음악에 큰 변화가 없다 이 점에 대해서는 개인차다 정도밖에 드릴 말씀이 없네요. 그런 부분은 마치 히트사운드로 노래 장르를 바꿔버리는 그런 재해석적인 조미료같은거라고 봐주시면 정말 감사할 것 같고, 예상보다 많은 지적을 받아서 그냥 어거지로 넣고싶어서 떼쓰는 거 아니냐고 보는 사람도 있을 수 있는데 저는 이 패턴의 포맷 자체를 바꿔버리는 변화를 하면서 랭크를 할거라면 제 닉네임 빼고 크리에이터에게 완전히 양도하던지 이 상태로 맵셋에서 뺼 생각까지도 있습니다. 이때까지 모든 이 패턴에 대한 모딩을 거절하면서 그 정도 생각은 당연히 했고, 이 한 순간에 지나가는 4개의 노트들을 그 정도로 생각하고 있습니다. 마지막으로 그냥 완전히 개인적인 제 생각인데, 강조도 강조지만 저는 이 맵을 보는 모든 분들이 01:58:912 (2,3,4,1) - 이 패턴을 한 묶음으로 보면서 이해하는 걸 시도해주시면 저는 충분히 이해를 할 수 있다고 생각합니다.

*귀찮아서 미뤄뒀던 것들 수정함

00:39:318 (5,6,1,2) - 패턴변경
01:17:156 (3) - 01:25:804 (3) - 각도변경

어나더임

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Enon

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Enon 2017-03-02T19:03:03+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
하이퍼.
od5는 너무 낮은게 아닐지,,? 5.8으로 올려봤습니다
스택 설정 때문에 00:46:345 (1,2,3) - 01:12:021 (6,1,2) - 01:42:021 (6,7,1) - 의 스택을 인게임으로 확인하시면 의도된 모양대로 나오지 않아 블랭킷이나 간격 등의 퀄리티에 영향을 미칩니다. 스택 리니언시 5로 낮춰주세요. 고쳤습니다.
00:51:480 (3) - 뜬금없이 고곡률 슬라이더가 나와버렸는데, 다른 1/2 슬라이더들의 곡률이 전반적으로 낮게 설정된 것을 고려하면 일관성에서 크게 해가 되는 슬라이더입니다. 곡률 낮춰주세요. 00:51:075 (2) - 이 슬라이더를 그대로 줄여서 썼더니 압축된 모양이 된 것 같습니다.. 고쳐봤습니다.

어나더.
나치적이지만 맵을 전반적으로 확인해보시면서 follow point의 인게임 디스플레이를 고려하시면서 간격들을 미세조정해보시기 바랍니다. 대략 1.02x 이상으로는 팔로우포인트가 생기고, 그 이하로는 생기지 않아서 00:17:156 (4,5,6) - 같은 경우 (4,5)와 (5,6)이 시각적으로 다른 효과를 보이는 등 미세하게 오차들이 보입니다. 00:20:400 (1,2,3) - 도 마찬가지고.. 1/2 간격에서 팔로우포인트가 일관적으로 보이지 않게 수정한 번 해보시기 바라요. 맵 전반적으로 blanket 을 많이 사용했다보니 미세하게 조정하다보면 blanket 을 전부 새로 건드려야 하는 번거로움이 생기게 됩니다. 핑계 밖에 안되지만 저로서는 이걸 제대로 고칠만한 테크닉도, 지식도 부족하기 때문에 blanket 을 건드리지 않는 부분에서 고칠 수 있는 건 모두 고치도록 노력해봤습니다.
01:10:940 (4,5) - 01:36:480 (2,3) - 01:37:561 (6,7) - 01:38:642 (2,3) - 01:40:804 (2,3) - 점프가 심각하게 과합니다. 맵 내의 급격한 난이도 변동은 권장되지 않으며, 그 외에도 음악의 전반적인 페이스를 고려했을 때 특정 지점에서 점프 개념을 쓰는 것은 좋지만 이러한 경우에는 그 도가 지나쳤다고 여겨집니다. 확실히 좀 과하지 않았나 싶기도 하지만, 맵을 처음에 만들려고 했을 때부터 이 부분에는 곡의 하이라이트인만큼 점프를 신나게 넣어보고 싶다고 생각했고, 그걸 맵에 담았더니 이렇게 되어버렸습니다. 하지만, 전 지금의 상태가 제가 할 수 있었던 최선이고, 최고였다고 생각합니다. 가령 이 패턴들이 권장되지 않는다고 해도, 저는 이 패턴들을 한 번 밀고 가보고 싶다라고 말씀드리고 싶습니다.
01:33:912 (1,2,3,4) - 조금만 더 신경써 보셔서 오버랩을 없애주세요. 옥에티 같네요. 솔직히 의도적인 오버랩이였긴 한데, 안 하는 것도 나쁘지 않네요. 바꿨습니다.
01:58:237 (3) - S 슬라이더의 모양이 원형 베이스가 아닌데, 혹시 손보실 의향이 있으신지... 전부터 좀 신경쓰이긴 했습니다.. 고쳐봤는데 어떨지.

감사합니다.

Kawashiro

1,522 posts

Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2017-04-14T18:20:56+00:00

Another

01:18:642 (3) - 여기 소리없음

01:40:399 (1,2) - 1번 꼬리랑 2번 휘슬자리 바뀐거같음

Talked in IRC

귀신같이 튕겼다;;; 쿠도스 주자

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-04-14T19:31:12+00:00

2017-04-15 03:00 UnLock-: ㅇㅇ
2017-04-15 03:01 UnLock-: 01:26:345 (1) - 빨간 틱 부분의 소리를 슬라틱으로 대충 떄우는건 너무했다고 생각해
2017-04-15 03:01 UnLock-: 피리소리도 빨간 틱에서 끝나는데 고쳐보는건 어떻냐
2017-04-15 03:02 UnLock-: 나같았으면 파란틱에 서클을 넣어서 01:26:885 (3) - 여기에 들리는 "헤이" 소리를 강조하는 식으로 짰을거같다
2017-04-15 03:02 UnLock-: 근데 헤이 맞냐?
2017-04-15 03:03 Enon: 애가
2017-04-15 03:03 Enon: 하는 말이 달라지네
2017-04-15 03:03 UnLock-: ?
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 01:17:696 (1) - 01:26:345 (1) - 01:34:994 (1) - 
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 2017-04-11 01:37 UnLock-: 01:25:264 (1,2,3,4) - 내 귀에는 이 박자 뒤에 나오는 3/4 슬라만 어울리는거같다
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 네가 어울린다고 해서 그대로 둔건데
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 지금은 또 너무하다고 하네
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: ㅋㅋ
2017-04-15 03:05 UnLock-: 새벽 1시잖아 저거
2017-04-15 03:05 UnLock-: 분명 취했을걸
2017-04-15 03:05 Enon: 지금은 3시야
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 잠 다깼엉
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 그냥 저건 니 맘대로 해라
2017-04-15 03:06 UnLock-: 01:40:399 (1,2) - 2번에 들어간 휘슬 빼서 1번 꼬리에 넣고
2017-04-15 03:07 Enon: 저거 3/4 부분은
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 01:10:129 - 01:18:642 - //01:18:777 - 01:27:291 -  // 01:27:426 - 01:35:940 - 
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 이런 식으로 한 마디라고 본다고 했을 때
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 마디의 끝부분을
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 다음 마디가 시작하기 전에
2017-04-15 03:08 Enon: 좀 박자 사용을 자제해서 다음 마디의 시작을 펑 터트리고 싶다는 생각을 했었음
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 그럼
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7825154
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 이런 박자는 어떠냐
2017-04-15 03:10 UnLock-: 솔직히 나 01:35:940 - 여기 무슨 소리가 있는건지 모르겠거든
2017-04-15 03:11 UnLock-: 니가 그런 생각이 있다면 소리가 있더라도 비워두는게 좋을거라고 생각해
2017-04-15 03:11 Enon: 01:35:940 - 
2017-04-15 03:11 Enon: 여기는 없는 거 맞는 것 같다 지웠음

Reillia

1,162 posts

Joined August 2014

Reillia 2017-04-16T13:36:52+00:00

[Beom's Beginner]
00:54:453 (2,1) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다

[jieusieu's Standard]
00:26:074 (4,5) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다

[Hyper]
01:19:858 (4,5) - 패턴을 위한것임을 알지만 저는 오버랩이 굉장히 신경쓰였습니다
01:36:615 (3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6) - 전체적인 난이도에 비해 이곳만 너무 어려운거 같은데 1/4슬라로 표현하시는것도 생각해봐주세요

[Another]
하이퍼와의 갭차이가 조금 크다고 느껴지는데 난이도 하나 사이에 추가하는것도 고려해주세요

아 너무 짧네;
키아이 보는 내내 눈 나빠지는걸 느꼈네요 ㄹㅇ

jieusieu

460 posts

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-04-16T19:39:22+00:00

[C u r i] wrote:
[jieusieu's Standard]
00:26:074 (4,5) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다 ㅋㅋ

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Beomsan

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Beomsan 2017-04-17T01:24:24+00:00

어나더 키아이 관련 일단 맵 관련 얘기니까 스레드에다가 적음

01:13:372 (1,2) - 리맵 하기 전에는 뭔가 이런 이전의 패턴때문에 다소 어색해지는 요소가 없었다고 기억하는데 말 하기가 좀 어렵지만 굳이 어떤 느낌이냐고 말한다면 01:30:669 (1,2) - 이런 2점 슬라이더를 사용한 연계가 더 좋았을 것 같다는 이야기. 잃은 것 중 하나라고 생각됨.

01:15:534 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:24:183 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 이런 것들은 정말 실수가 맞는 것 같음 리맵 전 키아이에서 이 부분들은 맵에서 가장 중요한 패턴이라고도 할 수 있다고 생각했는데 그런 느낌이 많이 사라졌음.

01:33:912 (1,2,3,4) - 여기서 오버랩이 사라진건 보기가 좋고,

잃은 것도 많지만 얻은 것도 많다.... 뭐라 말하기가 애매했음.

[C u r i] wrote:
[Beom's Beginner]
00:54:453 (2,1) - 더 좋은 블랭킷을 만들어 볼수 있을거같습니다 - 워낙 마이너한 요소다 보니 일말의 필요성도 느끼지 못하겠네요 이해
하시리라 생각합니다

Enon

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Enon 2017-04-18T16:11:03+00:00

[C u r i] wrote:
[Hyper]
01:19:858 (4,5) - 패턴을 위한것임을 알지만 저는 오버랩이 굉장히 신경쓰였습니다 이런 오버랩 많이들 싫어하시던데 저는 개인적으로 좋아합니다.
01:36:615 (3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6,3,4,5,6) - 전체적인 난이도에 비해 이곳만 너무 어려운거 같은데 1/4슬라로 표현하시는것도 생각해봐주세요 이걸
너프해버리면 걱정하시는 갭 문제가 더 커질 거라고 생각하네요. 난이도 조절을 위한 패턴이였습니다.

[Another]
하이퍼와의 갭차이가 조금 크다고 느껴지는데 난이도 하나 사이에 추가하는것도 고려해주세요 ^

Beomsan wrote:
어나더 키아이 관련 일단 맵 관련 얘기니까 스레드에다가 적음

01:13:372 (1,2) - 리맵 하기 전에는 뭔가 이런 이전의 패턴때문에 다소 어색해지는 요소가 없었다고 기억하는데 말 하기가 좀 어렵지만 굳이 어떤 느낌이냐고 말한다면 01:30:669 (1,2) - 이런 2점 슬라이더를 사용한 연계가 더 좋았을 것 같다는 이야기. 잃은 것 중 하나라고 생각됨.

01:15:534 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:24:183 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 이런 것들은 정말 실수가 맞는 것 같음 리맵 전 키아이에서 이 부분들은 맵에서 가장 중요한 패턴이라고도 할 수 있다고 생각했는데 그런 느낌이 많이 사라졌음.

01:33:912 (1,2,3,4) - 여기서 오버랩이 사라진건 보기가 좋고,

잃은 것도 많지만 얻은 것도 많다.... 뭐라 말하기가 애매했음.

네가 말하는 것만 들어보면 잃은 것만 많은 느낌이다. 많은 사람들한테 의견을 들어봤는데 정말 리맵 전보다 패턴 표현이라던가, 리듬의 사용이라던가 아쉬웠다는 말을 하는 사람이 있는 반면, 취향 차이일 뿐이라고 말하는 사람도 있더라. 내가 보기에도 리맵 전이 맵 전체적으로 봤을 때랑 더 어울리는 것 같고, 마음에 안 드는 패턴 몇 개 때문에 맵을 갈아 엎은 게 잘한 짓인지 후회가 되긴 하는데, 그래도 이 상태가 나름 괜찮다고 느끼고 있고, 좋아해주는 사람이 아예 없는 것도 아닌 것 같아서 아쉽지만 이대로 한 번 가볼까 싶네.

모딩 감사합니다.

Beomsan

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Beomsan 2017-04-18T18:11:46+00:00

확실히 전개가 이상했으니 보충하자면

내가 얻었다고 말하는 부분은 자잘하게 나눠보면 완성도 면에서는 더 낫다고 생각하는데

말한거처럼 맵의 아이덴티티를 잃은게 아쉬웠음

Kawashiro

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Joined April 2012

Kawashiro 2017-04-18T19:27:51+00:00

잃었다기보단 변했다는 말이 맞지 않나?

Beomsan

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Beomsan 2017-04-18T19:29:23+00:00

UnLock- wrote:
잃었다기보단 변했다는 말이 맞지 않나?

내가 보기엔 잃었다고 표현해도 과언이 아님

scanter

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Joined July 2012

scanter 2017-04-21T15:53:20+00:00

뭔가 갑자기 무릉도원에 온 느낌이다

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-04-22T10:36:41+00:00

scanter wrote:
뭔가 갑자기 무릉도원에 온 느낌이다

설리하지 마시고 모딩해조요!!!

scanter

2,385 posts

Joined July 2012

scanter 2017-04-23T05:10:49+00:00

오라해서 왔음 나도 스레드 분위기 따라서 음슴체 쓸꺼임

Beom's Beginner

01:03:642 - S:C1 피니시
01:26:885 - S:C6 피니시

jieusieu's Standard

슬라 뒤에 1/2박으로 서클 겹쳐놓은게 좀 보이는데, 초보들은 잘 못치니까 그 부분은 좀 신경써줘야 할듯
00:33:102 (5) - 여기라던가
00:50:399 (5) - 여기
그리고 슬라 뒤끝에 클랩이나 피니시 많이 들어가있는데, 이거도 좀 신경쓰이긴 하지만 나는 쾃이 아니라 신경만 쓰겠음
01:59:317 (4) - 일부러 이런 것 같지만 심벌즈 소리가 더 어울려보임

Hyper

00:16:615 (3) - 정확한 등간격 좌표는 x:359, y:246
00:40:264 (2,3) - 스택때문에 거리가 x1.05로 설정되어있지만 크게 신경쓸 부분은 아니니 판단에 맡기겠음
01:12:696 (2) - 이거 오토로 돌려보시면 알겠지만 SB효과도 있어서 그런지 정말 안 보이는데, 스택보다는 왼쪽으로 미는게 더 낫지 않음?
SPOILER

01:20:399 (5) - 끝에 살짝 겹치는게 보기가 그런데, 이건 어떰?

SPOILER

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01:36:075 - 01:39:318 - 전반적으로 이 부분은 노트 겹침 키시고 거리 x1.1로 맞추시면 좋을듯 함
01:59:318 - 하드에선 정말 큰 속도 변화폭 같은데, 타이밍에서 x1.25정도로만 올려놔도 괜찮을듯

Another

00:52:831 (1) - 크게 신경쓰지 않아도 되지만 올바른 등간격 위치는 x:191, y:342. 만약 옮길거면 뒤에있는거도 거리 조절해주면 굿
01:07:967 (1,1,1) - 음 개인적으로는 1번에 걸치는 것보다 거리를 좀 더 찢고 왼쪽에 뒀으면 하는 바램임. 음이랑 치는 느낌이 좀 언밸런스함
SPOILER
01:36:480 (2,3,6,7) - 저번에도 말했다시피 디퀄 관련 포스팅이 올라오면 이 부분을 지적할 것 같음. 근데 저는 쾃이 아니라 님 판단에 맡기겠음

Beom's Black Another

00:50:467 (8,8) - 들리는 음이 없는데 너무 무리하게 집어넣으신거 같음. 뭐 스타일이라면 할 말은 없지만
00:59:115 (8) - 여기도
00:57:696 (3,5) - 각 머리에 그냥 소프트 클랩으로 처리하시는게 더 좋을거 같음
01:01:480 (1) - 담요?

굳럭

jieusieu

460 posts

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-04-23T14:59:09+00:00

scanter wrote:
jieusieu's Standard
슬라 뒤에 1/2박으로 서클 겹쳐놓은게 좀 보이는데, 초보들은 잘 못치니까 그 부분은 좀 신경써줘야 할듯 고쳐야겠다고 생각은 했었는데 이번에 고쳐봐야겠네요
00:33:102 (5) - 여기라던가
00:50:399 (5) - 여기
그리고 슬라 뒤끝에 클랩이나 피니시 많이 들어가있는데, 이거도 좀 신경쓰이긴 하지만 나는 쾃이 아니라 신경만 쓰겠음
01:59:317 (4) - 일부러 이런 것 같지만 심벌즈 소리가 더 어울려보임 절충해서 둘다넣었음

사실빨갛게쓴거고친거에요

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Beomsan

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Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-04-24T05:06:03+00:00

scanter wrote:
Beom's Black Another
00:50:467 (8,8) - 들리는 음이 없는데 너무 무리하게 집어넣으신거 같음. 뭐 스타일이라면 할 말은 없지만 - 저는 음이 들립니다
00:59:115 (8) - 여기도 - 솔직히 이건 잘 모르겠는데 위의 것이랑 어울려서 냅둬도 되지 않나 싶습니다
00:57:696 (3,5) - 각 머리에 그냥 소프트 클랩으로 처리하시는게 더 좋을거 같음 - (3)에는 소프트 클랩이 좋아서 넣었습니다만 (5)에선 드럼쪽으로 사용하고 싶네요
01:01:480 (1) - 담요? - 와우

모딩 감사합니다
비기너 힛사는 크리에이터가 알아서 할거에요 ^^

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Abelia

982 posts

Joined August 2012

Abelia 2017-04-25T10:50:57+00:00

충성충성충성 범산님 사랑합니다

이 맵, 역사가 높이 평가.

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-04-25T18:08:14+00:00

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Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-04-27T12:59:51+00:00

scanter wrote:
오라해서 왔음 나도 스레드 분위기 따라서 음슴체 쓸꺼임

Beom's Beginner
01:03:642 - S:C1 피니시
01:26:885 - S:C6 피니시 all fixed
Hyper
00:16:615 (3) - 정확한 등간격 좌표는 x:359, y:246 나이스 지적이십니다
00:40:264 (2,3) - 스택때문에 거리가 x1.05로 설정되어있지만 크게 신경쓸 부분은 아니니 판단에 맡기겠음 말씀하셨다시피 스택을 노린거라서 유지하고 싶네요.
01:12:696 (2) - 이거 오토로 돌려보시면 알겠지만 SB효과도 있어서 그런지 정말 안 보이는데, 스택보다는 왼쪽으로 미는게 더 낫지 않음? 고쳤습니다.
SPOILER
01:20:399 (5) - 끝에 살짝 겹치는게 보기가 그런데, 이건 어떰? 큐리님 모딩에서도 거절했는데, 이렇게 겹치는 거 개인적으로 괜찮다고
생각하고 있고, 지금 상태가 좀 더 aesthetic한 상태에 가까운 것 같네요.
SPOILER
244,184,79858,2,0,P|237:122|348:87,1,195,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
370,153,80399,2,0,L|362:224,1,65,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
349,287,80669,2,0,L|341:358,1,65,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
01:36:075 - 01:39:318 - 전반적으로 이 부분은 노트 겹침 키시고 거리 x1.1로 맞추시면 좋을듯 함 약간 빗나가 있는 디스턴스 고치라는
뜻으로 이해하고 고쳤습니다.
01:59:318 - 하드에선 정말 큰 속도 변화폭 같은데, 타이밍에서 x1.25정도로만 올려놔도 괜찮을듯 이건 하드 난이도라고 해도 양보하기
힘드네요..
Another
00:52:831 (1) - 크게 신경쓰지 않아도 되지만 올바른 등간격 위치는 x:191, y:342. 만약 옮길거면 뒤에있는거도 거리 조절해주면 굿 굿
01:07:967 (1,1,1) - 음 개인적으로는 1번에 걸치는 것보다 거리를 좀 더 찢고 왼쪽에 뒀으면 하는 바램임. 음이랑 치는 느낌이 좀 언밸런스함 저는 언밸런스하다는 생각에는 공감할 수 없네요.. 상당히 곡이랑 잘 맞아떨어진다고 생각하고 있거든요.
SPOILER
01:36:480 (2,3,6,7) - 저번에도 말했다시피 디퀄 관련 포스팅이 올라오면 이 부분을 지적할 것 같음. 근데 저는 쾃이 아니라 님 판단에 맡기겠음 손닉님 모딩에서도 그렇고 스캔터님께도 저번에 말씀드렸지만 맵에서 가장 마음에 드는 부분이고, 끝까지 유지해보고 싶은 부분입니다.
정말로 디퀄을 먹게 되지 않는 이상은 고치고 싶지 않습니다.
굳럭

소중한 시간 감사합니다.

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disgusting me

Sidetail

1,268 posts

Joined October 2012

Sidetail 2017-05-15T02:07:19+00:00

안녕하세요

[general]
drum-hitwhistle9.wav >5ms 딜래이가 있네요.
이걸로 바꿔주세요. https://puu.sh/vQjlh/505c0acc54.wav

[범]
필요없는 초록줄은 지워주세요

똑같은거 중에, 처음꺼는 나두시고, 지워주세요.

[another]
00:24:183 (3) - 일부러 슬라 사운드 나두신건가요
00:37:696 (1) - ^
01:50:669 (3) - ^
00:46:885 (2) - 피니시 / 클랩 없는게 더 나은거 같네요

[stardard]
아무리 듣어도 힛사중에 C9 Clap이 듣기에 쫌 큰거 같네요

[beginner]
아래 초록꺼 지워주세요

스토리보드 멋지네요!

쿠도스 필요없어요, 애논님 굿럭!

Enon

2,690 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Enon 2017-05-15T09:55:55+00:00

감사합니다 답변은 나중에 자취방가면 하겠습니다!

jieusieu

460 posts

Joined March 2011

jieusieu 2017-05-15T10:02:36+00:00

BetaStar wrote:
[stardard]
아무리 듣어도 힛사중에 C9 Clap이 듣기에 쫌 큰거 같네요

클랩은 기본힛사라 바꾸기가 애매하네요

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2017-05-15T10:22:42+00:00

크리에이터가 선 정리 알아서 해준다고 하네요 감사합니다 하하
일해라~

Enon

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Joined November 2012

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Enon 2017-05-15T18:58:30+00:00

BetaStar wrote:
안녕하세요

[general]
drum-hitwhistle9.wav >5ms 딜래이가 있네요.
이걸로 바꿔주세요. https://puu.sh/vQjlh/505c0acc54.wav

[범]
필요없는 초록줄은 지워주세요

똑같은거 중에, 처음꺼는 나두시고, 지워주세요.

[another]
00:24:183 (3) - 일부러 슬라 사운드 나두신건가요
00:37:696 (1) - ^
01:50:669 (3) - ^
00:46:885 (2) - 피니시 / 클랩 없는게 더 나은거 같네요

저 부분에 강조를 해주고 싶었습니다.

[beginner]
아래 초록꺼 지워주세요

all fixed except mentioned

스토리보드 멋지네요!

쿠도스 필요없어요, 애논님 굿럭!

이렇게 찾아와주셔서 감사합니다.