mimimemeMIMI - Harebare Fanfare · forum

Gero

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-02-21T05:23:54+00:00

Buen trabajo gorda.

Changes/Fixes

Fixed some patterns to increase the aesthetics.
Improved the flow in some parts.

22:49 Gero: okay ya estoy
22:49 Gero: estas? xD
22:50 Luna-: yep
22:50 Gero: okay dame np otra vez
22:51 *Luna- is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1059894 mimimemeMIMI - Harebare Fanfare]
22:53 Gero: descargando
22:54 Gero: =v=b
22:54 Luna-: uwu
22:54 Gero: ya terminate la tarea?
22:54 Gero: xd
22:54 Luna-: nah sigo en eso
22:54 Luna-: estoy en una llamada en skype lol
22:55 Luna-: pero puedo ignorarlos un rato
22:55 Gero: pues terminala, y te espero xD
22:55 Luna-: nah, no se cuanto tiempo se lleven
22:55 Luna-: por eso
22:56 Luna-: o mientras empieza con hazu- primero
22:56 Luna-: y su insane
22:56 Gero:  buh
22:56 Gero: esta on?
22:56 Luna-: si
22:58 Gero: bueno, hablare con el si es que encuentro algo malo
23:00 Luna-: lol
23:00 Luna-: la vida es un riesgo
23:01 Gero: sorprendentemente me gustó su dificultad
23:02 Gero: veamos las tuyas
23:02 Luna-: lol
23:08 Luna-: oh espera dame un sec
23:08 Gero: vale
23:09 Luna-: ya termine mi llamada en skype lel
23:09 Gero: lel
23:10 Gero: vale
23:10 Gero: listo? :3
23:10 Luna-: yep :3
23:11 Gero: que ya me tengo que ir a dormir! xD
23:11 Luna-: xd
23:11 Luna-: igual ya tengo sueño lel
23:12 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1158083 mimimemeMIMI - Harebare Fanfare [Hard]]
23:12 Gero: 00:02:280 (6,7,8) - El spacing entre estas dos notas es demasiado inconsistente, es decir, es bastante notable que no estas usando el correcto en esta parte, me gustaria sugerirte cambiar esto
23:14 Luna-: reducir el ds en esa parte?
23:14 Gero: aumentar 
23:15 Luna-: mas que nada por 6 y 7 verdad
23:15 Gero: 01:12:637 (3,4,5,6) - Son demasiados circulos apilados en un periodo practicamente corto, ¿Qué te parece hacer algo con estos circulos? probablemente haria un blanket con dos 1/2 hacia el siguiente slider
23:15 Gero: si, entre 6 a 7 el spacing es raro
23:18 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1136507 mimimemeMIMI - Harebare Fanfare [Normal]]
23:18 Luna-: lol
23:18 Gero: 00:37:280 (2) - No me convence del todo el hecho de haber ignorado el strong beat que esta en 00:37:637 - así que considera eliminar este slider por dos circulos
23:18 Luna-: pensaba que esos stacks eran chidos
23:19 Gero: son demasiados xD
23:19 Luna-: como si fuera un stream
23:20 Gero: es en si que se ve bastante confuso, es aceptable en un BPM más bajo pero 168 y en una Hard es un nope para mi
23:20 Luna-: si puedo cambiarlo por dos circulos
23:22 Gero: seria todo, las demás dificultades las veo bien
23:23 Luna-: okay

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-02-21T07:02:25+00:00

~ Qualified ~

Luna-

811 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Luna- 2017-02-21T07:02:58+00:00

Gracias gordas <3

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-02-21T07:03:39+00:00

congrats~

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-02-21T09:54:18+00:00

top diff
00:24:066 (3,2) - random overlap
00:24:066 (3) - i dont get why you use that curve in the middle
00:26:030 (6,1) - shouldnt stack cuz downbeat 00:26:209 - is very strong.
00:26:834 - overmapped? i dont really hear a 1/4 here
00:28:887 (7,3,4,5,8) - very messy overlap, aesthetics seems bad.
00:46:119 (8) - also overmapped imo
00:46:030 (7,5) - overlap here is messy.
00:53:352 (1,6) - why not stack?
01:01:566 (7,8) - idk why you choose to have such a big spacing at this place. It is obvious that 01:01:387 (6,7,8) - the spacing should be around the same, and while 01:01:923 (1) - has a strong downbeat you choose to ignore and use a much smaller ds. Doesnt really make much sense as far as im concerned
01:03:887 (4,6) - very poor blanket
01:04:780 (1,4,6) - overlap is messy
01:10:494 (1,2) - this is inconsistent with 00:59:066 (1,2) - ,i think you need to increase ds.
01:11:744 (5,1) - also need to remove stacking
00:29:691 (4) - 100% overmapped, if you intend to follow high pitch sounds you should map 00:29:155 - 00:29:869 - instead.
00:53:352 (1,2) - 01:04:780 (1,2) - imo their distance is way too small cuz you used them in kiai section. They are almost as small as 00:00:495 (1,2) - in terms of ds...

I have deep concern about the aesthetics on this diff. You use a lot of overlaps and most of them are random and inconsistent...which would no doubt make the diff messy.
00:13:709 (2,5,2) - etc
00:17:459 (6,1,2,3) - 00:21:923 (1,3,1) - etc

I hope you can consider my points above.

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-02-21T11:03:07+00:00

alot of the overlaps you pointed out aren`t visible in game, btw some triplets are `overmapped`for emphasize as most of mappers do nowadays, dark explained that to me in game

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-02-21T11:27:44+00:00

Try viewing with Hit-animation on. A lot of those overlaps aren't visible in game and don't actually contribute to cluttering the map. Some of the points on stacking/not stacking seem valid though, as well as spacing choice.

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2017-02-21T12:13:20+00:00

Yeah you are right, some overlaps aren't really visible.
About the overlap, I agree with some, but not all.
So here's the shortened mod

My Angel Azusa wrote:
top diff
00:24:066 (3) - i dont get why you use that curve in the middle
00:26:030 (6,1) - shouldnt stack cuz downbeat 00:26:209 - is very strong.
00:26:834 - overmapped? i dont really hear a 1/4 here. Natsu said it's for emphasise, but imo what you should emphasise is 00:26:923 (4) -
00:46:119 (8) - also overmapped imo
00:53:352 (1,6) - a bit nazi cuz invisible, but i still think better to stack
01:01:566 (7,8) - idk why you choose to have such a big spacing at this place. It is obvious that 01:01:387 (6,7,8) - the spacing should be around the same, and while 01:01:923 (1) - has a strong downbeat you choose to ignore and use a much smaller ds. Doesnt really make much sense as far as im concerned
01:03:887 (4,6) - very poor blanket
01:10:494 (1,2) - this is inconsistent with 00:59:066 (1,2) - ,i think you need to increase ds.
01:11:744 (5,1) - also need to remove stacking
00:29:691 (4) - 100% overmapped, if you intend to follow high pitch sounds you should map 00:29:155 - 00:29:869 - instead.
00:53:352 (1,2) - 01:04:780 (1,2) - imo their distance is way too small cuz you used them in kiai section. They are almost as small as 00:00:495 (1,2) - in terms of ds...

And i still dont like the aesthetics but anyways...might be fine, there are much worse maps in ranked section so guess its fine.

I also highly suggest that you should delete 00:12:994 (6) - in normal cuz the sound actually starts on blue tick as you did in hard insane and top diff. That will be too hard for Normal.

Luna-

811 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Luna- 2017-02-21T13:31:46+00:00

im at the university so will try to answer when im back
thanks for checking beforehand!

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2017-02-21T14:13:47+00:00

Kiss Kiss

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2017-02-21T14:20:43+00:00

00:50:852 (2) - why does this have a finish, sounds like you just copied an object with a hitsound and forgot about it

Luna-

811 posts

Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Luna- 2017-02-21T20:18:50+00:00

My Angel Azusa wrote:
top diff
00:24:066 (3) - i dont get why you use that curve in the middle i use different kind of sliders to represent the 1/2 vocals, like 00:02:816 (6) - ,00:05:673 (6) - ,00:33:352 (1) - , doing the same slider for everything would be boring
00:26:030 (6,1) - shouldnt stack cuz downbeat 00:26:209 - is very strong. (idk if what im going to say have any sense lol) i feel the stacks gives other kind of enphasis for the kicks, instead of doing everything a jump, like i do for example in the triplets, or here 00:49:780 (1,2,3,4) -
00:26:834 - overmapped? i dont really hear a 1/4 here. Natsu said it's for emphasise, but imo what you should emphasise is 00:26:923 (4) - 00:26:923 (4) - the slider here is for the vocals, and the triples is to keep consistency with the others(every triple start on a red tick). Same for 00:29:602 (3,4,5) -
00:46:119 (8) - also overmapped imo on purpose for emphasis
00:53:352 (1,6) - a bit nazi cuz invisible, but i still think better to stack upss yeah, this was my mistake
01:01:566 (7,8) - idk why you choose to have such a big spacing at this place. It is obvious that 01:01:387 (6,7,8) - the spacing should be around the same, and while 01:01:923 (1) - has a strong downbeat you choose to ignore and use a much smaller ds. Doesnt really make much sense as far as im concerned i dont see what's wrong with 01:01:566 (7,8) -, for most of the jumps i keep increasing the the ds as the pattern go forward. i felt a bit more intense this part so decided to increase a bit more here. About 01:01:923 (1) - yeah the ds could be increase a bit but kept a lower ds because using a similar ds like 01:01:566 (7,8) - seems wrong and too difficult since im starting a new pattern and 01:02:280 (2) - ds would has been wrong too
01:03:887 (4,6) - very poor blanket yeah could be improve...
01:10:494 (1,2) - this is inconsistent with 00:59:066 (1,2) - ,i think you need to increase ds. nice catch, yeah ds should be a bit bigger
01:11:744 (5,1) - also need to remove stacking followed the same logic i said before but since this is a finish maybe you're right
00:29:691 (4) - 100% overmapped, if you intend to follow high pitch sounds you should map 00:29:155 - 00:29:869 - instead. explained on 00:26:834 -
00:53:352 (1,2) - 01:04:780 (1,2) - imo their distance is way too small cuz you used them in kiai section. They are almost as small as 00:00:495 (1,2) - in terms of ds... I liked how they represented the vocal on this part so repeated this pattern for some consistency

I also highly suggest that you should delete 00:12:994 (6) - in normal cuz the sound actually starts on blue tick as you did in hard insane and top diff. That will be too hard for Normal. This sound is kinda weird, it actually sounds like if it starts on a yellow tick, but decided to go for the blue tick on highest diffs, for the normal i thought the slide could work ether way starting on the white stick or leave it in blank, decided to go for the slider.

And i still dont like the aesthetics but anyways...might be fine, there are much worse maps in ranked section so guess its fine.

Okorin wrote:
00:50:852 (2) - why does this have a finish, sounds like you just copied an object with a hitsound and forgot about it This is actually on purpose. if you compare 00:50:852 - with 00:53:709 -, the second sounds more empty for me. idk if it's the echo or the kick gives more emphasis, but i can hear something here.
For 01:02:280 - since it's lessss notorious decided to not go for the finish

Thanks for taking your time to check this.!
A map could always be improve. If any of this point is really necessary I'd be glad to ask for unqualifed to fix it.

Nyukai

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Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2017-02-21T21:10:26+00:00

Oh damn, I guess I'm late to clear this request, poke me if you need anything else lol

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

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Okoratu 2017-02-21T21:10:58+00:00

taking this down because you actually seem to want to do some of these

about the two finishes at the beginning of the kiai: they still sound really noisy especially the 2nd one, and 01:02:280 (2) - is basically repeating 00:50:852 (2) - if im not mistaken and doesn't have one so the first one looks out of place if you look at the whole map

Soar

284 posts

Joined March 2010

Soar 2017-02-21T21:38:55+00:00

my 1st are gone...
but I can wait

Luna-

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Joined June 2012

Topic Starter

Luna- 2017-02-21T22:07:12+00:00

Thanks Okorin! I did the following changes:

00:53:352 (1,6) - fixed stack
01:01:744 (8,1) - increased ds
01:03:887 (4,6) - improved blanket (i think lol)
01:10:494 (1,2) - fixed ds
01:11:744 (5,1) - removed stack
00:53:352 (1,2) - 01:04:780 (1,2) - increased ds a bit
00:50:852 - removed finish on every diff

I hope this works!
Updated~

Natsu

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Joined September 2012

Natsu 2017-02-22T12:04:42+00:00

llámame cuando estés listo

Hazu-

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Hazu- 2017-02-22T13:39:41+00:00

Puse algunos whistles mas.

kiss kiss

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