1. us - 4Key (3.91 stars, 2084 notes)

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Pressure

I've yet to play the chart, but I'll do it tomorrow prob. For now I'm gonna asses what I think could be changed/improved etc based on theoretical knowledge.

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I'll be giving more of general suggestions for certain spots and things similar if stated so, so look for other similar things in the rest of the map when mentioned

00:38:746 (38746|0,38746|3) - Are you sure about those being 3/16 instead of 1/4? mapped this map with a randomness aspect in mind (the 2nd half is full of SVs that completely rely on random values/SV placements while maintaining the sightreadability for example, so this is one of the first random parts)

Was a bit reluctant to use random LN lengths so i tested them to make sure that they are 300g-able so i kept round 1/8 - 1/4

01:35:216 (95216|2,95216|0,95216|3,95216|1) - Not sure about those 1/8 LNs, I personally think it's pretty cruel to put those after stutter SV since 1/8 is already really hard to time. I would suggest extending to 1/4 and maybe change the stutter a bit if you want to keep the visual effect of LNs being real short. Same suggestion applies to every other part like this (other example would be 03:05:569 (185569|2,185569|3,185569|0,185569|1) - not gonna list all of them tho) yeaaa tested all of these LNs to be 300g-able, it's just that it's really easy to mess up the start of the LN, if you release as fast as you can, you should get a judgement similar to the initial hit

03:09:452 - This is pretty much the hardest burst to time (it occurs twice unless I missed one) and I think that the stutter on it, while of course justified with the song, could be just toned down a little. So basically just lower the values so it's not a total pain in the ass to read, feels like a decent diff spike reading and timing wise while it doesn't really feel like it should be. Same for 05:30:628 - Toned it down, the second one is adjusted to be harder than the first one however

04:18:981 - The pretty much same part of the song at 01:57:805 - also started on right hand and since the drops utilize symmetry between sections I think that this section could be mirrored (as in the same thing but starting on left hand instead of on right) to give it symmetry and not have almost the same thing again. mirrored that

when you mod a nearly 6 min SV heavy map and only suggest 4 things xd
I wish I'd have so high levels of creativity man

-Kamikaze- wrote:

ok since nobody has modded this for 2 weeks since my first and only mod I assume that everyone is happy with it, so I'll just look at it again in icon context

I do hear (or rather barely hear xd) some pretty inaudible hitsounds in the calm not buildup parts, they are barely hearable and I would want you to raise the volume of those just to be safe. I'll point out some examples:
03:33:981 (213981|0,214158|1,214334|2,214511|0,214687|3) -
00:53:981 (53981|0) -
01:12:805 (72805|0,72981|1,73158|2,73334|0,73511|2) -

upped all of them, changed the section @ 03:36:628 (216628|2) - to be 20% volume as i think it's a bit too loud

01:54:981 - 02:14:746 - Actually imo this jumptrill could be longer, since the buildup jumptrill is 5 measures long this could be at least a measure long and then turn into the single trill so you actually notice the jumptrill instead of there being just 4 jumps and trill, that doesn't feel like a proper gradient there Elongated the JT and somewhat redid the section
The shift in the pattern is mapped to "yours and mine" (specifically ignoring "and")

03:33:805 - not sure why those lag SVs are there actually, imo the song doesn't hint at there being lag worthy parts Not sure which part but imma explain both anyways

Before the time stamp: It's mapped to the noise in the background with random SV placements
After the time stamp: It's mapped to the "shaking" in the white noise fading, the same sound can be heard @ 01:35:216 (95216|2) - & @ 03:05:569 (185569|2) - (This should be more obvious)

files in folder: my bad, forgot to check on these stuff lo l
74646__ifartinurgeneraldirection__birds-chirping-4 has about 35-50 ms delay (I know that it's a storyboard hitsound but still would cut for safety)
98388__the-baron__breath-02 has about 330 ms of blank space at the end
193811__geoneo0__four-voices-whispering-2 has 2,5s of blank space at the end and at least 130 ms of delay
269570__vonora__cuckoo-the-nightingale-duet has about 40 ms of delay
276469__djmangamez__you-don-t-know-what-you-have-done has about 300 ms of blank space at the end and 500 ms delay
LR_HiHat Normal - L has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_HiHat Normal - R has about 200 ms of blank space at the end
LR_Snare Wet Echoing Hollow has about 2,5s of blank space at the end
LR4_BassKickReverbXD has XD it's title and that's really offensive
normal-hitclap ????????????????????????????

lol fixed everything, cropped some a bit less since there are still a bit of volume left in the .wav, just to make sure that the track doesn't cut too weirdly, forgot which i cut less soz, so i can't list them

bg is cool
mp3 is sicknasty
good shit

gonna bubble after your reply prob so idk shoot some stars at it so it gets to 12
gon dump some stars then

Additional Note: 03:11:216 (191216|1) - added one more note here to accommodate the BassKick Reverb

-Kamikaze- wrote:

w h e n

G3nericUsername wrote:

I was going to (attempt to) mod this, until I realised, this map is perfect.

eyes wrote:

iiii pls rank it, osu mania needs more so cool extraordinary maps

Blocko wrote:

Sooooo when are you ranking this?

Blocko wrote:

Guess I'll give this one a try.

I'll most likely give a second bubble once you apply this mod. This screams 'ready' to me.

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00:35:922 (35922|0,35922|1) - I'm thinking this one should be a single note instead of a chord since there doesn't seem to be a piano chord present there.

yea, confused a background sfx for a piano note there, removed 1

00:58:334 (58334|1,58393|0,58452|1) - You sure about these being 1/6? They sound a lot, lot, lot closer to 1/8.

didn't notice that being 1/8 before, tried changing it to 1/8 patterns but I can't really find anything that plays as I wanted to though
1) I want to keep the 1/3 jacks here, 1/4 feels a bit too fast so I ruled out using anchors on 1/8 (I really wanted anchors here as it fits the sound effect here pretty nicely
2) 1/4 -> 1/8 transition is kinda rough, besides, it feels more like a smoother transition from 1/4 -> 1/5 -> 1/6 and so on towards 1/8 here, feel that 1/6 is suitable as a transition
3) I made the 1/6 pattern a trill instead such that it fits the slowly increasing intensity of the sound effect here




01:18:275 (78275|2,78275|0) - This should be a single note since the piano segment here is very similar to 03:39:452 - .

pretty sure it's a chord (1 melody 1 bass), i changed the later one to a chord instead

01:32:569 (92569|2) - Sounds later than usual. Snap it up to 01:32:599 - on 1/12?

Snapped that

02:53:393 (173393|3,173481|2) - Sounds a looooot closer to 1/6 than 1/4.

Sounds 1/4 to me though, think it's because the producer decided to reverse the sound so that the "climax" of the sound is slightly later, I kinda wanna keep 1/4 here since it's consistent throughout the whole section here

I don't really hear the 1/6 on 02:53:511 -

02:53:922 (173922|3,173922|0,173922|2,173922|1) - Thinking you could turn these into a 1/8 LN chord, similar to the one you have on 05:15:099 - .

Tried it out here, sounds cool, added

03:04:158 - Add one more note here for that kick.

edded

03:33:805 - What's up with the stutter SVs here? Not really sure why those are there when there isn't really anything on that part to warrant the stuttering effect.

it has a similar sound effect as 03:05:569 (185569|3) - , but much softer

04:07:687 - Wondering why you didn't have the clap hitsounds there when you have them present on 01:46:511 - .

there's a really distorted soft clap on 1:46 while 4:07 doesn't, hence the different structure

04:43:687 - This part made me wonder why I keep getting 200/100, but it turns out you have that set up to look like it plays on 1/2. Devilish.

xd

Good god i can barely find anything to suggest

sum good stuff right there

thanks!

Blocko wrote:

One more thing before I do the thing

03:43:216 (223216|1) - Sounds a little early on my end. Putting that on 03:43:246 - with the same length as 01:22:069 (82069|1) - would be a good way to go.

Raymond wrote:

count me in
I will do flame then

Blocko wrote:

One more thing

Evening wrote:

holy fuck is it my BIRTHDAY

thanks a lot guys, means a FUCK TON* to me

*a ton is around 900kg

Evening wrote:

a ton (a fuck ton) (emphasis: ton)

Blocko wrote:

Blocko wrote:

One more thing

Sorry, but I lied. I tend to recheck a lot and end up finding more things and asking about them when I'm very close to putting an icon on things '_>'

01:29:569 - Following what you said earlier about the melody and bass earlier, I'm thinking you could also turn this into a 2-note chord as well.

01:21:099 (81099|2) - Hope you don't mind that this isn't a chord, I couldn't find a way to make it elegant (no 1/2 jacks) and i wanted to emphasize the grace on the melody more

and I did what you suggested there

03:50:746 - Same here actually

and here

05:10:863 (310863|1,310863|0,310863|2) - You could turn this into a quad since there's no note in 1/2 snap coming after it. Also for consistency with the other quads.

oh yea good catch, added

Evening wrote:

03:30:253 (210253|0,210275|1) - This might be on 1/32, not sure, i used 1/16 for simplification

Yeah, sounds like 1/32. The editor can't handle that snap though, but simplifying it like this should be fine.

Evening wrote:

holy fuck is it my BIRTHDAY

thanks a lot guys, means a FUCK TON* to me

*a ton is around 900kg

Evening wrote:

a ton (a fuck ton) (emphasis: ton)

'_ '

Raymond wrote:

ok, i would like to irc more
I will catch you on weekend

Ascendance wrote:

I rarely play mania but Evening's maps are so fun to play :O

- Zayin - wrote:

Congrat c:

ajeemaniz wrote:

nothing much to say, i was expecting something more from this map, the whole concept feels great until everything was copy paste at 1st & 2nd chorus :/

Feerum wrote:

Ello and grats on qualify!

I would like to bring up some stuff (i think it will be mostly snapping) that i would like to discuss before this mapset gets moved forward into ranked.

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Um, could you explain me how this difficult name is related to the song? I saw "Kingdom Hearts II" in tag's and i am not familiar with the game. Is it somehow to the game related? Would be happy if you could explain me!

it's kind of simple in a way that I wanted it to be short and simple (like the song's structure) and it's all explained in the preview point lol

I saw you have several sounds which are actually 1/8 mapped as 1/6. Such as 02:24:099 - and 02:29:746 - and so on, basically all 1/6 here. Just want to know if this is intentionally. If it's for playability purpose i can agree with you that 1/6 feels way better than 1/8.

uh yea, someone said it was 1/8 too, but i simplified it to 1/6, because a bit too excessive to play trills on 1/8

00:58:290 - Also this one is pretty much 1/8 and not 1/6.

yes i know, it's too hard on 1/8

Since most of your stuff is very accurate snapped this one note here 03:10:099 (190099|1) - should de definitely on the next 1/16 line, what means on 03:10:113 - . It's pretty audible for me when i compare it with how the previous notes beginn.

uh no, i think it's snapped correctly here lol, would *not* changing this even be an issue, no one playing this would even spot this minuscule error if it even is. The sound here is of an incrementing volume, the point where it starts is very blurred, I think it's snapped correctly as long as it falls on a certain area.

03:11:216 - If you follow from here the high pitched Piano notes, 03:16:863 (196863|2) - this one is wrong snapped. The high pitched piano for this one is at the 1/12 beat line 03:16:893 - .

It's kinda early on 1/12 but much later on 1/16 so i snapped on 1/12 here instead

03:24:628 (204628|3) - This one is more accurate on the next 1/16 beat line.

Feel that it's better on 1/1, 1/16 sounds a bit too late here, i reckon it's 1/32 anyways

03:25:356 (205356|2) - For what is this note here? Here's only one piano note which is on 03:25:378 - .

It's a grace in the piano ( I selectively made some notes graces while others aren't, details below )

03:26:040 (206040|0) - This one is questionable. I can hear here a very low pitched an quiet piano. If you want to keep it i think it's okay but since the piano is really so quiet i would recommend to remove it.

I want to be as accurate as possible here for things that i think that are audible, I can clearly hear the pitch shift

03:27:452 (207452|1) - This one is pretty sure 1/32 (we doesn't have 1/32 yay) that's why i would recommend to move it to 03:27:474 - because it sounds for me way closer to the actually piano note.

same argument as why i would put on 1/1 lol, I'd rather put it on 1/1 mainly for simplicity

03:28:158 (208158|2) - Here we have again a note without sound. Here's only one piano sound which is on 03:28:180 - correctly mapped.

it's a grace in the piano

03:30:253 (210253|0) - For this note the same as above. Here's only one piano sound.

it's a grace in the piano

03:31:687 (211687|1) - Something on this LN is bugging me. On 100% and 75% playback rate it sounds for me way too late, but on 50% or 25% playback rate it sounds again correct for me. It's probably because the hit begins on 03:31:643 - already but the actually sound of the piano notes gets really audible at 03:31:687 - . I think it can stay where it is.

there are graces here too, I snapped them as it is for simplicity, on a 1/2 rhythm

03:56:393 - // This part sounds so incredibly familiar but i can't tell in which song i heard that before.. probably some camellia stuff

05:31:275 (331275|1) - For this note the same like already mentioned last time. On the next 1/16 line, means 05:31:290 - it sounds more accurate!

kind of like a personal preference to snap it here too then lol

I remember i did in Shiirn's map also a snapping check haha. However. The Map overall looks pretty fine for me but since you cared really a lot about snapping i think these notes should get fixed too to have most accurate play as possible!

Let me know what you think about my points i raised