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Seijiro

osu! Alumni

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-11-06T18:26:33+00:00

Passing by to mention that I quickly checked Hard and Normal and the difference is a bit noticeable in fact of not density and patterns (there are some big jumps for a hard and some 1/2 back'n'forth movements that would kill even Insane players probably, on Hard) so yeah, a filler diff would be cool

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-09T01:08:56+00:00

Silverboxer's Normal added. Will add his name to tags as soon as I have all diffs ready

Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-11-09T04:53:54+00:00

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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Leader

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1,849 posts

Joined January 2011

Leader 2016-11-12T14:04:19+00:00

I'm really busy right now, and I have no time to fix my diff

Can you do that for me, please?

Anxient

1,568 posts

Joined June 2014

Anxient 2016-11-17T16:18:43+00:00

BNs please rank this?

Doyak's Normal

00:41:328 (2) - might be just me, but the slider is facing a position which is completely out of place. maybe somethin' like this? http://puu.sh/slnTQ/35dd1f520a.jpg

00:55:779 (1) - wanna turn this to a straight slider? i mean, for this section [ 00:53:266 - 01:00:648 - (for similar sounding parts) ] youve been using straight sliders. maybe for consistency?

01:10:857 - methinks its a bad idea to keep this strong beat as a sliderend. make it clickable?

02:17:297 - maybe you can add a note? :'D youve been emphasizing every noticeable beat without fail so far, so why not? http://puu.sh/slo6O/bf39f76cec.jpg

02:41:328 - did this part dissapear or is this intentional? maybe you can do something like this? http://puu.sh/slock/c690d915c1.jpg

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-11-17T16:24:10+00:00

Anxient wrote:
BNs please rank this?

patience

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-11-17T16:31:22+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Hard
I have a big issue about spread here as the jump from Normal to this diff is way too big new normal added
Do me a favor and check your hitsounding again, there are quite a few Claps either missing or at least once misplaced by one 1/4, I don't wanna list all of them done
Also enable View / Stacking in the editor and manually adjust stacks below slidertails by 3x3 pixels, since all other 1/1-sacks are autostacked too but slidertails behave differently for some reason (example: 01:03:317 (1,2) -) done i guess
01:22:244 (1,1) - This is not enough recovery-time for a Hard, and the swoosh-sound ends at 01:23:108 anyways so I strongly recommend shortening the spinner done
00:35:359 (5,6) - Beware of autostacking making this spacing way smaller than all others, also causing the followpoints to not appear on default-skin
also at 00:54:835 (2,3) - done
00:55:778 (1,3,5,7) - (1) is not properly stack with the rest (also, in case there won't be an Advanced added, this seems way too hard to read and play, but let's wait and see) fixed
00:57:978 (4,1) - aesthetics yey, but this being less spaced than all the previous objects feels really inappropriate since (1) is a major downbeat that you even supported with a Finish, so I highly recommend emphasizing it more by placement too fixed
00:58:919 (4) - Why don't you use the same rhythm as at 01:00:176 (3,4) here? Feels randomly undermapped / 'empty' done
01:12:113 (1,2,3) - (again in case of no Advanced, I'd recommend spacing the heads at least so much apart that the combo-number is slightly visible, might be very confusing otherwise)
01:13:369 (1,2,3,4) - iirc you didn't use fully clickable triplets anywhere else, and the previous object is a circle too which makes this harder to click than the rest by quite a lot; also it's overmapped anyways whereas you generally undermapped a lot in this section so I don't see much sense in that removed
01:21:223 (2,3,4,5) - 1. differentiaion between (2) and (3) is ded and 2. making (5) an offbeat-slider but then hitsounding its tail is basically contradicting itself, so I'm just suggesting this done
01:47:924 (3,4) - Why do you put the jump to (4)? I don't see how that's special in any way and would understand a jump to (3) much more bc of natural beat priority and bc it's the highest note, so basically I'm suggesting smth like this done
01:56:092 - Why jump from x0,5 to x1,0 here all of a sudden? The notes are barely getting any more intense, it's just a continuous increase of intensity from here until the spinner, so increasing SV smoothly until there would make much more sense my guess is that Leader wanted this to be a more simplified version of a crescendo, idk, just make it another 1.0x section instead of several sections. i'm not changing this for now unless he allows me to
02:21:851 (3,4) - Here I'd actually recommend replacing it with a 1/1-slider since the tail of (3) is overmapped and it doesn't represent the intensity of the song at all like this i believe the background sounds can easily represent this rhythm
02:22:479 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2) - I'd recommend removing all of the few Claps here since there are less of them mapped than ignored, feels really weird when suddenly there are suddenly three Claps in a row after they have been left out for just as long and then they are being left out again yeah these were just copied from the higher diff, fixed
02:52:008 (3,4,1) - autostack makes (3,4) not be vertical xd Also, why isn't it spaced more like the previous three objects?
02:51:380 (1,2,3,4,1) - I feel like (1,2) don't fit the rest of the map aesthetically at all tbh, additionally with the sudden symmetry it seems like the last combo is from an entirely different map than the rest fixed both

Kuron-kun

Kuron-kun 2016-11-17T17:39:00+00:00

oie

bold = highly recommended
red = unrankable

General

A linha vermelha na diff do grumd, do Leader e do NiNo estão posicionadas de forma errada, comparada com o resto.
As tags na diff do Leader estão entrando em conflito com o resto.

Silver's Normal
00:33:161 (1,2) - I've seen that you really like consistency and this difficulty is really consistent itself, but these two sliders don't really follow the same rhythm as the rest on this section. The pattern should start with a circle then a 2/1 slider on the red tick. Something like this (or anything that follows the same rhythm) would help to keep the section more consistent. Plus, would also help to emphasize the strong sound, since the sliders are ending on that sound, making it less emphasized.

01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - Really unsure about this. This is a Normal diff, you've done a lot simply by changind the slider velocity, which isn't really recommended for low diffs, and you changed the spacing here as well, which is even less recommended than changing the SV. I know that you tried to emphasize it, since the song is really strong in this section but it might be really confusing. Why don't you try this instead? It will keep emphasizing the strong sound and wouldn't be hard, since the circles are all closer to each other. If you agreed with this, don't forget to rearrange the DS.

01:20:595 (4,1) - Again something I'm really unsure about. This section of the song is pretty continuous and doesn't indicate a break at all, nor you indicated one with your previous pattern, so adding one here is really confusing and would pretty much cause a miss, specially if you note that 01:20:910 -still has a sound. You can either add a note on the empty white tick or you can increase the DS between (4) and (1). I wouldn't recommend at all keeping the way it is now.

02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - Same about the low-ds patterns I mentioned before, but these aren't really a bad thing because they're closer to the sliders and aren't really confusing. But if you want to keep consistency you should do the same here. This is just an opinion, though!

02:06:145 (1) - The way this spinner is ending could be some trouble, specially due to the low AR. When the AR is low you can't really see when the spinner is going to end and even before it ends the notes are showing on screen, so that might confuse new players and make them missclick the circles. You can end the spinner on 02:09:601 - and put a big slider starting on the next white tick to emphasize the sound.

02:12:428 (1,2) - Same as first item for consistency reasons. If you agreed with them, of course! Here as well 02:17:454 (1,2) - .

02:46:355 (1,2,3,4,5) - You already know what I'm going to mention here, just for consistency. And if you applied there, of course you have to apply here, since they're the same patterns but... upside down?

desu

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-11-18T12:10:32+00:00

Anxient wrote:
BNs please rank this?

Doyak's Normal

00:41:328 (2) - might be just me, but the slider is facing a position which is completely out of place. maybe somethin' like this? http://puu.sh/slnTQ/35dd1f520a.jpg imo it flows very well. Rather your suggestion feels weird because 00:41:328 (2,3) - becomes too linear.

00:55:779 (1) - wanna turn this to a straight slider? i mean, for this section [ 00:53:266 - 01:00:648 - (for similar sounding parts) ] youve been using straight sliders. maybe for consistency? I consider it as a beginning of a new 'section', so I came out from those 'straight' slider patterns.

01:10:857 - methinks its a bad idea to keep this strong beat as a sliderend. make it clickable? It's because there's no melody sound, so I feel it less important.

02:17:297 - maybe you can add a note? :'D youve been emphasizing every noticeable beat without fail so far, so why not? http://puu.sh/slo6O/bf39f76cec.jpg That'll create too long train, also it's better to not have a note there when I want to emphasize 00:41:328 (2,3) - better.

02:41:328 - did this part dissapear or is this intentional? maybe you can do something like this? http://puu.sh/slock/c690d915c1.jpg It's because the melody goes really disappearing, so I made it empty so that players can feel it.

Thanks for the mod, but should disagree with all.

@Blue Dragon: My diff's latest version is on p/5593767 but seems you haven't updated yet. Could you upload it?

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-11-19T03:03:59+00:00

~~working on this tomorrow lo.~~ fuck school i got the week now at least

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-11-25T17:49:14+00:00

*gets excited to see that the last post was seven days ago*
*remembers that I already got kds for this set*
;_;
maybe the fact that Silver's diff is new and that fiery's diff which I'll mod ofc will be new too could be reason for another kds?
probably not tho lol why am I so desperate for kds actually

General

Not really general but it concerns all three Extras (and fiery but remap so whatever): 01:56:092 - The first sliderheads are not providing any feedback at all / are basically inaudible or indistuingishable, which is breaking RC. Just raise the volume for the heads, it doesn't make sense to use different rhythms (in Kyshiro's and BD's) based on what is going on in the song but not make those rhythms be emphasized by sound anyways
Also, to be a bit nazi in grumd's and BD's, the increase in volume is very imbalanced: The initial change from 5% to 15% is tripling the volume, while the next one from 15% to 25% is not even doubling it, and for some reason there's no change at 01:59:862 at all.. Could be balanced much better
Both also applies to 02:06:145 in some more diffs too (ofc applies to a spinner just as much as to a slider)

re-check for Tarrasky's Light Insane:

00:33:475 (4,7) - The issue here is that because those notes are autostacking, (4) is being moved 4x4 pixels to the left and up, which makes (2,3,4) slightly curved instead of straight
02:06:145 (1) - You didn't change this, I recommend removing the last reverse from this slider so it ends at 02:09:876 because that's where the sound ends ^^

Silver's Normal

I'd rename this to Advanced, not only to avoid repetition of diffnames and make the diffnames progress logically, but also bc having five clickable 1/2s in a row and all those spacing-changes / antijumps aren't really suited for a Normal anyways ^^
00:33:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - Since I already knew the song it was quite surprising that there's a 1/1-slider at (4) since in the song it's just a repetition of the musical pattern at (1,2), so I suggest making a 1/1-slider at (1,2) too in order to make it feel more 'logical' - If you wanna do rhythmic variety, I'd do that later in the section, but not right at the beginning of the section when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established
00:41:957 (1,2,3) - autostacking makes the DS a bit bigger here, especially here I'd avoid that since the music is getting calmer for a moment ^^
01:02:689 (3,4) - I'm missing differentiation to the other patterns like this because this one doesn't have those strong melody-notes on (4) and the tail of (3) anymore.. How about letting (3) reverse twice?
01:13:056 (1) - imo this would have a much nicer effect if you continued with the placement of 01:12:114 (1,2,3) -, and it would also make it more easy to notice that this is an overmapped-3/4-slider which hasn't been introduced yet
01:14:627 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You're using so many NCs here that they completely lose their meaning, it's hard to still recognize patterns here instead of just perceiving it as chaotic NC-spam.. I'd recommend removing the NC at 01:15:255 (1) since those pairs of sliders aren't really that paired in the map itself like 01:17:140 (1,2,1,2) for example, and also removing the at 01:16:826 (1)
01:20:595 (4,1) - I mean it's not 'bad', but I just wanna point out that this is the most cruel place for an antijump imaginable since everybody will click the downbeat on first play and hate you lol - How would you feel about adding a reverse to (4)?
01:23:501 (1) - recommending to silence the spinnerend since it doesn't end on any distinct beat, even the pitch-change of the background-synth sounds more like it would be one red tick later but it's not distinct either way
02:06:145 (1,1) - This isn't enough recovery time for a Normal (and not for an Advanced either at this BPM), we generally stick to this as guideline, and I think removing 02:11:485 (1,2,3) would still have a very nice effect here
Also I'd like to suggest silencing this spinnerend too so that the following measure really is silent instead of still hearing the soft-hitnormal fade out 1/1 into the measure
02:49:182 (1) - This NC seems like an accident lol
02:52:323 (1,1) - imo this feels really forced / overdone for this difficulty-level, and ending on an offbeat-slider always feel so nice imo

Nino's Insane

00:28:292 (2,4,5) - beware of weird autostacking-behaviour making it look like this, dunno if that's what you want ^^
01:04:574 (1,2,3) - 02:43:841 (1,2,3) - I'm missing differentiation here, at all other combos like this you always use 1/1-sliders but only here you don't which makes these 1/2-slider-chains seems bland and not really related to the song anymore, I strongly recommend using 1/1-sliders here too
02:06:145 (1) - Recommending to shorten this by one reverse bc the sound in the song ends 1/8 earlier ^^
Not a big fan of the overall aesthetics, but that's just taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

grumd's Extra

Are you sure about not using any KiaiTime?
00:43:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - Seems weird to me that you use pure 1/2-rhythm for so long here when you're using a lot of 3/4- and 1/4-rhythms right after that in this section, I'd introduce them earlier to make it more balanced and logical
00:55:778 (7) - 01:02:061 (9) - missing NCs?
02:06:144 (1) - The sound you wanna end this spinner on is actually 1/8 earlier
02:33:160 (5,6) - 02:34:417 (5,6) - Those are easy to read with transparent skins, but maps are being judged with the default skin, which makes this stupidly hard to read, especially since the sliderball covers it for quite some time too, please change this to something easier to read with the default skin

Kyshiro's Extra

02:35:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This felt like quite the diffspike to me, and even just decreasing the spacing of 02:36:302 (1,2,3) a bit to match the rest makes SR drop quite a bit, seems imbalanced to me
I heavily dislike your overmapping, like 01:05:360 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:09:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - etc.. Arguing that there might be some minor 1/4s somewhere in the background doesn't work for me when those are sounds that exist through basically the entire song and are never mapped anywhere else, they don't fit your choice of rhythm throughout the rest of your map and make it seem like you needed them to force variation that you were unable to provide elsewise
00:43:213 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as with grumd, you only use 1/2-rhythms here but after those notes you use 1/4s all the time, would make more sense to introduce one of the 1/4-rhtyhms earlier into this section
Also it seems a bit weird to me to make 00:44:313 (5) an offbeat-slider but emphasize the tail with a hitsound, makes me suggest to either change the beat placement or the hitsounding
02:06:145 (1) - The sound this is mapped to actually ends 1/8 earlier
02:16:669 (4,5,6) - I lack differentiation here, you're generally closely following the more prominent layer of melody-notes, which doesn't have any note at (5)

Blue Dragon's Blue Dragon

please use that name :^D^D^D
Tbh I really dislike how your second half is much harder than the first one when the song is exactly the same, the first one only being 6,21* and the second one being 6,95*.. gets ready to be called a hypocrite after nominating this bc I regularly flamed on other maps that do this
00:22:480 (2) - I get that you're not using the whistles for certain consistent notes throughout the map, but in the intro, when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established yet and there's nothing but three equally strong notes, using different hitsounding for those three notes feems really weird to me :/
00:54:129 - 00:59:156 - hitsound-inconsistency aa
01:50:438 (4,5) - uuh is this not-straight on purpose? looks accidental, and you have plenty of space to move all following stuff to the left
also I didn't notice that Leader ended 02:06:144 (1) on the blue tick in the Hard even tho it should be on the 1/8~

whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-11-27T22:52:38+00:00

bonsai mod

Bonsai wrote:
Silver's Normal
I'd rename this to Advanced, not only to avoid repetition of diffnames and make the diffnames progress logically, but also bc having five clickable 1/2s in a row and all those spacing-changes / antijumps aren't really suited for a Normal anyways ^^ I let BD rename it so I dont ruin anything
00:33:161 (1,2,3,4,1) - Since I already knew the song it was quite surprising that there's a 1/1-slider at (4) since in the song it's just a repetition of the musical pattern at (1,2), so I suggest making a 1/1-slider at (1,2) too in order to make it feel more 'logical' - If you wanna do rhythmic variety, I'd do that later in the section, but not right at the beginning of the section when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established changed (1,2) to what you said
00:41:957 (1,2,3) - autostacking makes the DS a bit bigger here, especially here I'd avoid that since the music is getting calmer for a moment ^^ I don't understand? making them not stacked increase ds even more? :thinkin:
01:02:689 (3,4) - I'm missing differentiation to the other patterns like this because this one doesn't have those strong melody-notes on (4) and the tail of (3) anymore.. How about letting (3) reverse twice? I like it, done
01:13:056 (1) - imo this would have a much nicer effect if you continued with the placement of 01:12:114 (1,2,3) -, and it would also make it more easy to notice that this is an overmapped-3/4-slider which hasn't been introduced yet good idea, done
01:14:627 (1,2,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You're using so many NCs here that they completely lose their meaning, it's hard to still recognize patterns here instead of just perceiving it as chaotic NC-spam.. I'd recommend removing the NC at 01:15:255 (1) since those pairs of sliders aren't really that paired in the map itself like 01:17:140 (1,2,1,2) for example, and also removing the at 01:16:826 (1) I have fixed this before but I guess this diff was never updated? fixed combos the way it was last time I updated this.
01:20:595 (4,1) - I mean it's not 'bad', but I just wanna point out that this is the most cruel place for an antijump imaginable since everybody will click the downbeat on first play and hate you lol - How would you feel about adding a reverse to (4)? sure
01:23:501 (1) - recommending to silence the spinnerend since it doesn't end on any distinct beat, even the pitch-change of the background-synth sounds more like it would be one red tick later but it's not distinct either way done
02:06:145 (1,1) - This isn't enough recovery time for a Normal (and not for an Advanced either at this BPM), we generally stick to this as guideline, and I think removing 02:11:485 (1,2,3) would still have a very nice effect here
Also I'd like to suggest silencing this spinnerend too so that the following measure really is silent instead of still hearing the soft-hitnormal fade out 1/1 into the measure shortened the spinner instead, the section of no notes gives a better effect of the music than removing those three strong notes
02:49:182 (1) - This NC seems like an accident lol you are correct lol
02:52:323 (1,1) - imo this feels really forced / overdone for this difficulty-level, and ending on an offbeat-slider always feel so nice imo I extended the last slider 1 tick and got rid of the circle

http://puu.sh/swA3M/52843cc5dc.osu

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-11-29T20:51:04+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

BOY I GOT SCHOOL AND OWC TO WORRY ABOUT BUT NOW THAT CORY IS QUALID I CAN ACTUALLY DEDICATE SOME TIME TO THIS FINALLY OK WOO LETS GO

Tarrasky

1,203 posts

Joined March 2014

Tarrasky 2016-12-02T01:43:54+00:00

bonsai recheck

osu file format v14

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0034192

6 posts

Joined September 2015

0034192 2016-12-05T02:33:10+00:00

on BD diff
00:50:105 (6,7,8,9)
shouldnt this pattern be replaced with a pattern like this?
https://puu.sh/sExzi/f562f87a6a.jpg

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-14T01:23:02+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
*gets excited to see that the last post was seven days ago*
*remembers that I already got kds for this set*
;_;
maybe the fact that Silver's diff is new and that fiery's diff which I'll mod ofc will be new too could be reason for another kds?
probably not tho lol why am I so desperate for kds actually

General
Not really general but it concerns all three Extras (and fiery but remap so whatever): 01:56:092 - The first sliderheads are not providing any feedback at all / are basically inaudible or indistuingishable, which is breaking RC. Just raise the volume for the heads, it doesn't make sense to use different rhythms (in Kyshiro's and BD's) based on what is going on in the song but not make those rhythms be emphasized by sound anyways i personally don't agree with this - the sliderheads are providing feedback based on the drums, and the synths in the song are giving the "rhythm feedback" and keeping the song going lol
Also, to be a bit nazi in grumd's and BD's, the increase in volume is very imbalanced: The initial change from 5% to 15% is tripling the volume, while the next one from 15% to 25% is not even doubling it, and for some reason there's no change at 01:59:862 at all.. Could be balanced much better idk, i feel like 5 - 15 - 25 being a +10 consistent change and keeping it as 25 for a while since the volume change isn't huge is fine for me.
Both also applies to 02:06:145 in some more diffs too (ofc applies to a spinner just as much as to a slider) idk about this

Blue Dragon's Blue Dragon
please use that name :^D^D^D na
Tbh I really dislike how your second half is much harder than the first one when the song is exactly the same, the first one only being 6,21* and the second one being 6,95*.. gets ready to be called a hypocrite after nominating this bc I regularly flamed on other maps that do this eh lol i feel like there's a bigger buildup & stuff
00:22:480 (2) - I get that you're not using the whistles for certain consistent notes throughout the map, but in the intro, when the regular rhythm hasn't even been established yet and there's nothing but three equally strong notes, using different hitsounding for those three notes feems really weird to me :/ fixed i guess? last one is stronger
00:54:129 - 00:59:156 - hitsound-inconsistency aa fixed
01:50:438 (4,5) - uuh is this not-straight on purpose? looks accidental, and you have plenty of space to move all following stuff to the left there's a triangle betwen 3,4,5
also I didn't notice that Leader ended 02:06:144 (1) on the blue tick in the Hard even tho it should be on the 1/8~
whoo I think that's it for now *looks at fieryrage*

ok uhm i need the other GDs to actually do something now lol
also gonna start answering for kyshiro since he hasn't responded me for like 3 months

Bonsai wrote:
Kyshiro's Extra
02:35:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This felt like quite the diffspike to me, and even just decreasing the spacing of 02:36:302 (1,2,3) a bit to match the rest makes SR drop quite a bit, seems imbalanced to me done
I heavily dislike your overmapping, like 01:05:360 (5,6,7,8,9) - 01:09:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - etc.. Arguing that there might be some minor 1/4s somewhere in the background doesn't work for me when those are sounds that exist through basically the entire song and are never mapped anywhere else, they don't fit your choice of rhythm throughout the rest of your map and make it seem like you needed them to force variation that you were unable to provide elsewise cant really sort that out for him sadly
00:43:213 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - same as with grumd, you only use 1/2-rhythms here but after those notes you use 1/4s all the time, would make more sense to introduce one of the 1/4-rhtyhms earlier into this section done
Also it seems a bit weird to me to make 00:44:313 (5) an offbeat-slider but emphasize the tail with a hitsound, makes me suggest to either change the beat placement or the hitsounding fixed i guess
02:06:145 (1) - The sound this is mapped to actually ends 1/8 earlier done
02:16:669 (4,5,6) - I lack differentiation here, you're generally closely following the more prominent layer of melody-notes, which doesn't have any note at (5) fixed

Last edited by Mismagius 2016-12-14T01:31:10+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-12-14T01:30:11+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Fiery:
- 00:25:622 (1,2,1,2) - why so many NCs here and not 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - here? (less NCs are better). There are similar patterns onwards so check them out too removed nc's from 00:26:250 (3) - and 00:31:276 (3) - and applied to other patterns like that
- 00:56:407 (1,1) - no need for so many NCs, the pattern is already readable enough done
- 01:00:805 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - structure here is a bit lacking, or maybe the whole map is like this... idk touched up this part
- 01:23:108 (1) - NC not needed keeping this one though -- there's a different emphasis on the note here and i'd like to emphasize that with the spacing and nc
- 01:52:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again, structure is a bit lacking pattern changed here
- what I said above applies to also the copy-pasted kiai times fixed the ones that i changed above so no worries about that
- again, for this diff too structure is a bit too relaxed and in "TV-size/anime" style. Try to give more meaning to patterns overall please this would basically require an entire remap as it is, i feel like the song sort of calls for that though since it's essentially the same melody repeated twice in a row and it's oddly relaxing in most parts (kiai being the only one it isn't)

relooked at most parts of the map a while ago and revamped as necessary (mainly kiai and some blanket/slider changes), ty for modding!
and no ty to myself for taking 5 years to do this god dammit fuck

shit

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SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-12-14T11:12:54+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
Nino's Insane
00:28:292 (2,4,5) - beware of weird autostacking-behaviour making it look like this, dunno if that's what you want ^^
01:04:574 (1,2,3) - 02:43:841 (1,2,3) - I'm missing differentiation here, at all other combos like this you always use 1/1-sliders but only here you don't which makes these 1/2-slider-chains seems bland and not really related to the song anymore, I strongly recommend using 1/1-sliders here too
02:06:145 (1) - Recommending to shorten this by one reverse bc the sound in the song ends 1/8 earlier ^^
Not a big fan of the overall aesthetics, but that's just taste ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

thx for mod
no mention = fixed

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: BLUE DRAGON.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 32218
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 23108,33161,43213,53266,63318,73370,83423,104784,132428,142480,152533,157245,162585,172637
DistanceSpacing: 1.6
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:BLUE DRAGON
TitleUnicode:BLUE DRAGON
Artist:Seiryu
ArtistUnicode:Seiryu
Creator:Blue Dragon
Version:NiNo's Insane
Source:
Tags:ryu jubeat plus android reflec beat ポップンリズミン grumd kyshiro doyak tarrasky mkguh leader fieryrage snownino_
BeatmapID:996357
BeatmapSetID:326920

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"wallpaper-1881159.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,83623,103527
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-15T00:00:38+00:00

GDers: please update your difficulties to the latest version and check if everything is fine

grumd

1,790 posts

Joined October 2010

grumd 2016-12-18T16:31:17+00:00

Fixed everything except of these:

02:06:144 (1) - The sound you wanna end this spinner on is actually 1/8 earlier
I dont agree, it sounds best at white tick for me
02:33:160 (5,6) - 02:34:417 (5,6) - Those are easy to read with transparent skins, but maps are being judged with the default skin, which makes this stupidly hard to read, especially since the sliderball covers it for quite some time too, please change this to something easier to read with the default skin[/list]
Default skin is transparent too and the next slider is totally visible even with it. Secondly, this is an Extra, not a Normal or a Hard. I never understood why Extras can have hard streams, hard jumps, but never could have patterns that are harder than average in terms of reading. This pattern is not unreadable, it just requires some skill and reaction to be played, which was my intent. Not fixing this

Diff:
http://pastebin.com/raw/0TiMq1p6

Mismagius

9,237 posts

Joined July 2008

Topic Starter

Mismagius 2016-12-18T17:21:16+00:00

ok updated

Bonsai

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Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-12-22T21:24:20+00:00

talked with a QAT about the issue I had with Kyshiro's diff, QAT said it's fine so here's a star for now~~

and here's a quick pseudo-mod for Fiery's Insane

00:23:108 (1,3,4) - 01:46:983 (5,2) - I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about the aesthetics of this diff in general but I think these overlaps could really easily be avoided to make it look somewhat cleaner xd
00:37:873 (2,3,1) - Also not gonna care about spacings too much but the beat at (1) is clearly far stronger than the one at (3) so this spacing here is just ??
00:52:794 (3,4) - 02:32:061 (3,4) - I find those jumps very unreasonable bc there's nothing on these notes that justifies them having so significantly more spacing than anything around them, like the (1) prior to it for example, which would have much more backing it up
02:42:585 (1) - 02:47:611 (1) - I'd suggest to at least slightly raise the SV for those sliders bc rn they just create a weird moment of nothing happening at all bc the SV in general is very low compared to the spacings, so having such a long slider in a very intense section doesn't really fit imo

~~~

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-12-22T21:59:57+00:00

Bonsai wrote:
talked with a QAT about the issue I had with Kyshiro's diff, QAT said it's fine so here's a star for now~~

and here's a quick pseudo-mod for Fiery's Insane
00:23:108 (1,3,4) - 01:46:983 (5,2) - I'm gonna keep my mouth shut about the aesthetics of this diff in general but I think these overlaps could really easily be avoided to make it look somewhat cleaner xd y the fuck did i do this 5 months ago holy shit im stupid
00:37:873 (2,3,1) - Also not gonna care about spacings too much but the beat at (1) is clearly far stronger than the one at (3) so this spacing here is just ?? fixe
00:52:794 (3,4) - 02:32:061 (3,4) - I find those jumps very unreasonable bc there's nothing on these notes that justifies them having so significantly more spacing than anything around them, like the (1) prior to it for example, which would have much more backing it up i just stacked them yea
02:42:585 (1) - 02:47:611 (1) - I'd suggest to at least slightly raise the SV for those sliders bc rn they just create a weird moment of nothing happening at all bc the SV in general is very low compared to the spacings, so having such a long slider in a very intense section doesn't really fit imo eh, comparatively speaking to the section before it it's relatively calm, the synth here is a lot more potent than the claps/drums/what have you in this section anyway; the only real huge spacing increase is 02:42:585 (1,2) - and i did this with the fact that most people don't fully follow sliders to their end, so it plays just fine imho
~~~

5 month old diffs are great (read: time to die)

All denied, thanks for modding!

osu file format v14

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Bonsai

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Tarrasky wrote:
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Mismagius

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Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-12-24T03:44:19+00:00

recheck

Bluedragon:
- 00:54:993 (4) - maybe unstack this. The stack creates a strange stop in the flow, which doesn't happen on similar stuff like 01:00:019 (4) - for example
- 02:26:878 (4,5,6,7) - not so sure about using this shape when 02:27:192 (6,7) - have clearly stronger emphasis in the song

Kyshiro:
- 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ignoring the high pitched sound brings down a bit the overall song expression but oh well... I guess it's late to change this now. It just doesn't make sense when you followed that sound with every nearby pattern tho. (00:41:957 (1,2,1,1) - reference)
- 00:57:035 (1,2,3,4) - probably just personal, but I was expecting more movement seeing how the song evolves. Dumb example
- 01:04:889 (3) - ctrl + g? It looks like a better flow to me
- 01:51:538 (1) - I wonder what's the difference between this and 01:49:025 (4) - 01:46:512 (4) - 01:54:051 (4) -

- 02:18:711 (1,2) - probably not so noticeable, but this part feels less "jumpy" than 02:19:339 (4,5,6,7) - for example, even if they are the same. Suggestion

grumd:
- 02:33:161 (5,6) - I still wonder why making this. I even testplayed it and it doesn't play well at all lol. Look
Making it similar to 00:53:894 (4,5) - works just fine and it changes nothing if not some pixels, yet you still want to throw away reading in that point. Why? .-.

Nino:
- 00:37:245 (3,4) - this jump should have been way bigger than 00:36:930 (1,2) - , yet you have that cramped part

)just check how 00:41:957 (1,2,3) - flows way better)
- 01:45:098 - 01:56:093 - there's barely any difference from the rest of the map, while this part is the calmer of the song. Expression of the song is kinda poor here
- 01:56:093 - 02:06:145 - isn't this a build-up? It's the same problem as above ^ Ah, since you might obviously say I'm just making up things I'll let you check stuff like 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - which is in the kiai time. As you can see jumps are pretty much identical, yet the song plays way differnetly
- 02:40:700 (1,2) - why not placing 1 at the top and 2 at the bottom as you did with any other similar pattern like this?
0 generally speaking, this map is "still". The spacing is not representing the song as I would expect. Maybe you don't like small details, but I ddidn't point out those small details at all. Take the 2 points I made above and compare your map with Blue Dragon's or Kyshiro's or grumd's. Maybe those diffs don't have small spacing details, but at least they emphasize each part with proper spacing (for kiai time it's really noticeable too, as well as the last part)

Fiery:
- 00:49:967 (3,4) - wow, such small and contorted jump. Suggestion
- 00:53:108 (5) - what do you think about deleting this beat? You followed quite well the song's rhythm till now and this overmap is a bit an eyesore tbh
- 01:00:334 (4) - I'll point this out just here and once, but every similar pattern nearby seems to suffer from this: the angle formed between 01:00:177 (3,4,5) - literally creates no proper emphasis on any of the beats I highlighted here. Try something like this and you'll notice the difference
- 01:04:103 (2) - stack under 1 instead of 3? The strong beats happen on white ticks here, but you put the jump (emphasis) on a red tick.... duh
- 01:16:826 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe it is better if I don't argue with aesthetics right now...
- 01:23:108 (1) - these 1,2 combos are not even used as the original meaning they earned in the past year ROFL. This sort of pattern (I'm referring to 1,2 combos) it is usually used for vocal build-ups in pre-kiai times, or either the end of the kiai itself, not the introduction to a break time LOL. I'd rather have that NC removed
- 02:15:726 (6,7) - feels strange to not have the whole 5 notes of the stream mapped tho :/ On stuff like 02:20:124 (2,3,4) - it doesn't matter since you're still holding down a button so it feels like you're still tapping on the stream
- 02:20:752 (6,7) - same ^ but I have also a [url-http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6882372]suggestion[/url]
- 02:32:375 (5) - same as before, deleting it would make the map more clean
- 02:35:360 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - take all of them, make pairs (2+3, 4+5, 6+7) and Ctrl + g all of them: that's probably what you were aiming at when creating this whole section, right? Ah, 02:36:302 (1,2,3) - if you do that this part might need to be fixed flow-wise
- 02:38:344 (6,7) - as mentioned earlier, somewhere above, using less spacing between them makes up for a better expression of the song
- 02:39:601 (1) - why NC? .-. Also, the flow is a bit meh too, since the angle is too wide (explained above)
- 02:45:098 (1,2) - how come this same rhythm is different than 02:42:585 (1) - ? In general, that long slider breaks up all the movement. We're not even in a calm part, it's the outro of the kiai lol. There are a lot of beats in the middle to be used. (if you reply me with "style" I have to point out how this style doesn't really work considered the rhythm of the song)
- 02:46:198 (6,2) - well, not really big deal, but this sort of stuff was a bit everywhere and I guess I can tell you: it doesn't look so great to have them touch like that. If you care about aesthetics, that is

Tarrasky:
- 00:22:480 (2,3) - what do you think about a ctrl + g here to create a nice drop on 00:23:108 (1) - ?
- 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - umg... well... I won't go too deep in this, but it kinda feels "just because". Just an example of what you could make with a little more structure in it
- 00:27:506 (3,4) - this is a Light Insane... right? I was expecting a bit more of tolerance towards intense rhythms, above all in the calm parts like this. Example of a rhythm more Light Insane-ish
- 00:35:360 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - duh, this flow is so cramped and forced. I have an example but that whole section is just too hard to fix right now since you even ignored the strong beat at 00:36:302 - and there's some other flow stuff going on, like 00:35:360 (4,1) - and 00:36:459 (6,7,8) - making the flow too rigid
- 00:37:402 - rip strong beat. As I said, we're playing a Light Insane, I'm expecting to at least hit the most easy to hear notes in the music (which in this case is the high pitched sound). A more Light Insane-ish example
- 00:41:957 (1,2,3,4) - again, you keep kicking in with intense rhythms on calm parts. This is not an Extra, this is not Blue Dragon's diff, this is a Light Insane...
Example of something that won't traumatize players so much (it's simply an example, the longer slider creates an ugly overlap with the next object son don't copy that)
- 00:55:150 (3,4) - first time seeing a 3/4 slider + <insert object> pattern where the second object is perfectly stacked on the tail
- 00:55:779 (1,2,3,4) - aesthetically, 1 makes no sense in that combo, so why is it like that? .-.
- 01:04:260 (4) - ctrl + g for better flow?
- 01:11:800 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - if I follow what you wanted to do here... I should be expecting 5 to be upwards... right ?
- 01:10:857 (1,2,3) - I'm missing the reasoning behind this pattern too now that I look again... Why are they angled like that?
- 01:13:056 (6) - either a circle or a 1/1 slider, because there is a longer sound than just 1/2 there
- 01:21:224 (3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6882549 Violet is your current pattern, while the light blue objects are the duplicated and rotated version of 01:21:224 (3,4) - . Maybe it is nothing for you, but these small details really do make a difference if you pile them up across the all diff, so please...
- 01:46:669 (2) - again small details, but this looks 5 times less random than a straight + curved slider pair\
- 02:15:412 (5) - the strong beat is on the tail =w="
- basically this kiai time will most likely have all the same issues I already pointed out so let's leave it at that
- 02:21:538 (2) - strong beat is on the tail
- 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - go look for what I suggested for 00:37:402 -
- 02:33:318 (4) - instead of this note, which is not in the song, why not using a 3/4 slider for 02:33:161 (3) - and create a less stressing rhythm? ._.
- 02:50:124 (1,2) - just one big slider works way better

Leader:
- 00:56:093 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - is there a way to make this part easier? It feels like a bomb right now
- 01:17:297 - a stacked beat would work well to keep the rhythm. That break is a bit hard to handle imo, above all after the huge jump on 01:16:512 (3,4) -
- 01:19:967 (2,3) - something similar to what you did for 01:19:025 (4,1) - would work better imo
- 01:22:166 (1,1) - because making the spinner end play that finish was too meta :^)
- 01:52:166 - stacked beat again may help with rhythm, since there's a new part starting from there. Go check 01:58:606 (1,2,3,4) - lol
- 02:21:852 (3,4) - umh... it feels a bit too heavy for this diff to map like that on a calm part. Just one big slider is not good? :/
- 02:36:302 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - again with this intense part lol. Maybe you can make it a bit easier here too

Silver:
- 00:30:019 (1) - I wonder where's the need for such NC...
- 00:31:276 (1) - same ^ This is an Advanced, you should be using longer rhythms and combos, why all this spam? D:
- 00:31:433 (2,1,1) - what. Really? Did you ask for a testplay on this? I don't think anti-jumps are a good choice for this difficulty at all.
- 00:40:072 (1) - again with the NC mania
- 01:02:689 (3) - this is confusing, as 98% of the sliders having even numbers of repeats on them. Solution ?
- 01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - how many 1/2 clicks in a row at max have you used till now? And, why are you using 5 of them out of the blue?
- 01:12:114 (1,2,3,1,1) - between those overlaps and that 3/4 rhythm on the slider, this pattern feels way too complex for this diff. Easiest solution is to convert 01:13:056 (1) - into a circle
- 01:15:255 (1) - NC not needed
- 01:17:768 (1) - same ^
- 02:01:747 (1) - same ^
- 02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - surely not a suitable rhythm for a slow and calm part of the song
- 02:19:339 (1) - NC not needed
- 02:21:224 (1,2,3,4) - and again you kick in with the anti-jumps @.@ I strongly believe that's not a good choice for this difficulty
- 02:41:956 (3) - same as before
- 02:46:355 (1,2,3,4,5) - and same as before again

Doyak:
- 00:31:276 (2,3) - 1/2 repeat slider + circle would have fit better rhythm-wise imo
- 01:55:150 (4) - idk.. there is a strong beat on the slider tail here, plus it doesn't seem like the same rhythm in the song used for 01:53:580 (1,2) - , so I'd use something else, like circles or a longer slider (circles are better)

Mk:
- missing kiai times? .-. Well, they aren't a must, but it feels strange, since there are parts that deserve it lol

Alright... I guess that sums up all I had to say.
The upper diffs are pretty fine. Someone might complain about jumps being too big or whatever, but they still flow well and there's a solid structure so I don't really mind.
As for the rest, I highlighted in blue the diffs presenting some lack of planning. What I mean is that the map is either ignoring the song or the analysis (and therefore interpretation) of it doesn't make sense.

As I talked with Blue Dragon in PM already, I'm not gonna pop the bubble since the "objective quality standards" have been here with all diffs. I just do not really agree with it on a personal level since the mapset can be way better imo. I hope you can understand my choice here.

Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-12-24T04:48:53+00:00

MrSergio mod

MrSergio wrote:
Silver:
- 00:30:019 (1) - I wonder where's the need for such NC... originally was to make patterns look "neater" but I will remove all of these extra nc since it still looks fine without them
- 00:31:276 (1) - same ^ This is an Advanced, you should be using longer rhythms and combos, why all this spam? D: ^
- 00:31:433 (2,1,1) - what. Really? Did you ask for a testplay on this? I don't think anti-jumps are a good choice for this difficulty at all. this "anti-jump" is consistent in my difficulty when there is a large gap between notes. also this is an advanced, it is played either like a difficult Normal or a slightly easier Hard. one or two anti-jumps is not hard when the next difficulty up is using lots of overlap. I think it is a good transition as well, this difficulty can't be too easy or else there is no gap between Doyak diff and mine, and then too much difference between this diff and Leader diff.
- 00:40:072 (1) - again with the NC mania fixed
- 01:02:689 (3) - this is confusing, as 98% of the sliders having even numbers of repeats on them. Solution ? I don't think making it two circles makes more sense here. it makes bad overlap, and if anything, it should be slider repeating once and then only 1 circle for this pattern. if someone else tells me to change, or you still think my reason is bad then I will change it. But to me it fits the music and having a 2-repeat slider in an advanced seems fine to me as well.
- 01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - how many 1/2 clicks in a row at max have you used till now? And, why are you using 5 of them out of the blue? listen to how strong the notes are! I think it's justified to use circles here. also does it matter how many in a row it is? 5 is not so much when every other pattern in the map is 2 or 3 clicks in a row. again, I'll say this is fine for an ADVANCED difficulty. good transition between normal and hard in my opinion
- 01:12:114 (1,2,3,1,1) - between those overlaps and that 3/4 rhythm on the slider, this pattern feels way too complex for this diff. Easiest solution is to convert 01:13:056 (1) - into a circle turning last slider into a circle leaves it just as complicated. a player can see that the last slider is longer, so it should be held longer. and if they don't then they let go slightly too early and still hit the notes. same as before, I think this pattern fits but if you or someone else also says its not good then I can change it somehow
- 01:15:255 (1) - NC not needed
- 01:17:768 (1) - same ^
- 02:01:747 (1) - same ^
- 02:02:376 (1,2,3,4) - surely not a suitable rhythm for a slow and calm part of the song i made it harder than the previous pattern for this part of the song because it is the build up section, and it is the strong notes again. I think 4 circles is ok
- 02:19:339 (1) - NC not needed
- 02:21:224 (1,2,3,4) - and again you kick in with the anti-jumps @.@ I strongly believe that's not a good choice for this difficulty I think it is fine. the player will not think it is a stream or anything, because this is an advanced diff.
- 02:41:956 (3) - same as before also same as before
- 02:46:355 (1,2,3,4,5) - and same as before again also same as before

I also fixed an anti-jump that wasn't consistent and fixed a few more inconsistent ncs that we both missed before

I rejected some of the points because I believe that this difficulty has good "hard" parts for an advanced. If I fix all of these points then it is just another Normal diff, and look at how big the gap between Advanced and Hard would be without some "hard" patterns. I don't believe any of my patterns are confusing, but if it is confusing then it is only for the very first play. A Normal difficulty player trying this SHOULD have a bit of trouble because this is not a Normal, it is a bit harder intentionally because of the spread. Also, I am only saying this much about it because I think other people mentioned that this map is too hard. Thanks for the mod.

fieryrage

osu! Champion / Elite Nominator II

1,402 posts

Joined November 2013

fieryrage 2016-12-24T05:34:10+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Fiery:
- 00:49:967 (3,4) - wow, such small and contorted jump. Suggestion spaced out more for emphasis, applied to other kiai
- 00:53:108 (5) - what do you think about deleting this beat? You followed quite well the song's rhythm till now and this overmap is a bit an eyesore tbh there's a beat here tho on the synth which i'd like to keep here
- 01:00:334 (4) - I'll point this out just here and once, but every similar pattern nearby seems to suffer from this: the angle formed between 01:00:177 (3,4,5) - literally creates no proper emphasis on any of the beats I highlighted here. Try something like this and you'll notice the difference honestly i think the pattern currently is fine but applied
- 01:04:103 (2) - stack under 1 instead of 3? The strong beats happen on white ticks here, but you put the jump (emphasis) on a red tick.... duh this 1 i feel is good as it is though, having a note underneath a long slider is kind of weird playability-wise
- 01:16:826 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe it is better if I don't argue with aesthetics right now... trust me my aesthetics five months ago dont make sense to me either, tried making this prettier
- 01:23:108 (1) - these 1,2 combos are not even used as the original meaning they earned in the past year ROFL. This sort of pattern (I'm referring to 1,2 combos) it is usually used for vocal build-ups in pre-kiai times, or either the end of the kiai itself, not the introduction to a break time LOL. I'd rather have that NC removed was for the spacing increase which i thought warranted it but sure
- 02:15:726 (6,7) - feels strange to not have the whole 5 notes of the stream mapped tho :/ On stuff like 02:20:124 (2,3,4) - it doesn't matter since you're still holding down a button so it feels like you're still tapping on the stream honestly i don't really feel like this is a 5 note stream lol idk why the top diffs do it, the synth is more noticeable as a triplet
- 02:20:752 (6,7) - same ^ but I have also a suggestion see above
- 02:32:375 (5) - same as before, deleting it would make the map more clean see above response to same thing d
- 02:35:360 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - take all of them, make pairs (2+3, 4+5, 6+7) and Ctrl + g all of them: that's probably what you were aiming at when creating this whole section, right? Ah, 02:36:302 (1,2,3) - if you do that this part might need to be fixed flow-wise honestly wasn't that hard of a fix i just stacked the more intense notes, easier for playability + aesthetically clean so
- 02:38:344 (6,7) - as mentioned earlier, somewhere above, using less spacing between them makes up for a better expression of the song fixed both of these
- 02:39:601 (1) - why NC? .-. Also, the flow is a bit meh too, since the angle is too wide (explained above) fixed along with the other one also i blame bd for this lo
- 02:45:098 (1,2) - how come this same rhythm is different than 02:42:585 (1) - ? In general, that long slider breaks up all the movement. We're not even in a calm part, it's the outro of the kiai lol. There are a lot of beats in the middle to be used. (if you reply me with "style" I have to point out how this style doesn't really work considered the rhythm of the song) nah, it's not style, i followed the synth during that portion of the end kiai because the synth is a lot more potent there compared to the drums; the section after has the drums over the synth. while i agree there's beats in the middle, for an insane i don't think it's necessary to map them since the synth is so strong here
- 02:46:198 (6,2) - well, not really big deal, but this sort of stuff was a bit everywhere and I guess I can tell you: it doesn't look so great to have them touch like that. If you care about aesthetics, that is this would basically require an entire remap from the ground up if i were to fix all of these, and this one is pretty minor so yea

hope most of my denial reasons made sense, thanks for mod!

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Doyak

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Doyak 2016-12-24T06:14:24+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
recheck

Doyak:
- 00:31:276 (2,3) - 1/2 repeat slider + circle would have fit better rhythm-wise imo I guess you consider the last beat pretty strong, and it actually is, but it rather creates a bit awkward polarity issue, and lose emphasis on 00:32:218 (1,2,3) - these three clicks. The first part is relatively much calmer so I'd prefer keeping simple rhythms to not give players too much of rhythm-wise intensity.
- 01:55:150 (4) - idk.. there is a strong beat on the slider tail here, plus it doesn't seem like the same rhythm in the song used for 01:53:580 (1,2) - , so I'd use something else, like circles or a longer slider (circles are better) Even though I put a whistle every 2 beats constantly, I don't think that sound is particularly strong or anything. It doesn't even have a pitch transition, so idk what made you think it's stronger than others. For the alternatives you suggested: longer slider? if you mean using a 1/1 slider on 01:55:150 - , I don't see how it can emphasize the slider tail sound better. Circles? There's no reason for this part to have such an intense click actions, and it lacks differentiation between 01:54:836 (3,4) - this 1/2 part and 01:55:779 (5) - this 1/1 part.

Thanks for the mod!

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-12-24T07:17:47+00:00

@Silverboxer

01:02:689 (3) - I second this with MrSergio. A multiple reverse is pretty much not expected since you've never introduced this before, and 00:55:779 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 01:00:805 (1,2,3,4) - all these have repeated same consecutive 1/2 sliders so it's very hard to expect something like this. Furthermore, more than half of the reverse arrow is hidden behind (2) so players will just struggle to read that one stuff.

02:02:376 (1,2,3,4,5) - Considering what you've said about 01:07:088 (1,2,3,4,5) - , I don't think this is strong enough to be clicked all individually. "does it matter how many in a row it is?" Yes it is, because consecutive clicks stress players out quickly. Consecutive clicks mean that they require more action and therefore it should be considered to be more intense. Also, you said "I think 4 circles is ok" but more importantly, it's 5 clicks.

I would also suggest increasing the AR to 7, and that'll make the confusing overlaps easier to read. As you did say, the difficult things are for transition from my Normal to that 'hard' Hard, and with this high bpm, AR7 would suit better I think.

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,106 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 2016-12-24T08:33:47+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Nino:
- 00:37:245 (3,4) - this jump should have been way bigger than 00:36:930 (1,2) - , yet you have that cramped part )just check how 00:41:957 (1,2,3) - flows way better)
- 01:45:098 - 01:56:093 - there's barely any difference from the rest of the map, while this part is the calmer of the song. Expression of the song is kinda poor here
- 01:56:093 - 02:06:145 - isn't this a build-up? It's the same problem as above ^ Ah, since you might obviously say I'm just making up things I'll let you check stuff like 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - which is in the kiai time. As you can see jumps are pretty much identical, yet the song plays way differnetly
- 02:40:700 (1,2) - why not placing 1 at the top and 2 at the bottom as you did with any other similar pattern like this? mainly for symmetry structure here
0 generally speaking, this map is "still". The spacing is not representing the song as I would expect. Maybe you don't like small details, but I ddidn't point out those small details at all. Take the 2 points I made above and compare your map with Blue Dragon's or Kyshiro's or grumd's. Maybe those diffs don't have small spacing details, but at least they emphasize each part with proper spacing (for kiai time it's really noticeable too, as well as the last part)

@MrSergio : remapped 01:46:040 - and same 00:23:108 - , might want to take a look again xd, i know i did pretty bad at that part b4 lol
thx for mod

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Tarrasky

1,203 posts

Joined March 2014

Tarrasky 2016-12-24T12:28:23+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Tarrasky:
- 00:22:480 (2,3) - what do you think about a ctrl + g here to create a nice drop on 00:23:108 (1) - ? fix
- 00:23:108 (1,2,3,4,5) - umg... well... I won't go too deep in this, but it kinda feels "just because". Just an example of what you could make with a little more structure in it fix
- 00:27:506 (3,4) - this is a Light Insane... right? I was expecting a bit more of tolerance towards intense rhythms, above all in the calm parts like this. Example of a rhythm more Light Insane-ish i'll ignore some songs if i do that, like 00:27:663 -
- 00:35:360 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - duh, this flow is so cramped and forced. I have an example but that whole section is just too hard to fix right now since you even ignored the strong beat at 00:36:302 - and there's some other flow stuff going on, like 00:35:360 (4,1) - and 00:36:459 (6,7,8) - making the flow too rigid fix (not exactly you have done on example but i think the flow looks good now)
- 00:37:402 - rip strong beat. As I said, we're playing a Light Insane, I'm expecting to at least hit the most easy to hear notes in the music (which in this case is the high pitched sound). A more Light Insane-ish example fix
- 00:41:957 (1,2,3,4) - again, you keep kicking in with intense rhythms on calm parts. This is not an Extra, this is not Blue Dragon's diff, this is a Light Insane...
Example of something that won't traumatize players so much (it's simply an example, the longer slider creates an ugly overlap with the next object son don't copy that) fix, i done emphasis in the strong beat but i dont remove 00:42:585 (3,4) - , dont think is necessary, and this isn't intensity in any way the song, look the spacing, look the flow, this is obviously much softer than the intense pattern, like the kiai, respecting the intensity of the song in this moment
- 00:55:150 (3,4) - first time seeing a 3/4 slider + <insert object> pattern where the second object is perfectly stacked on the tail fix, but have a lot if you see all the map :/
- 00:55:779 (1,2,3,4) - aesthetically, 1 makes no sense in that combo, so why is it like that? .-. because, like in all map, i respect the 4/1 NC sequence, and i'll not break all the consistency just because one slider, i think looks good like this
- 01:04:260 (4) - ctrl + g for better flow? fix
- 01:11:800 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - if I follow what you wanted to do here... I should be expecting 5 to be upwards... right ? fix
- 01:10:857 (1,2,3) - I'm missing the reasoning behind this pattern too now that I look again... Why are they angled like that?
- 01:13:056 (6) - either a circle or a 1/1 slider, because there is a longer sound than just 1/2 there I can clearly hear a song here 01:13:213 -
- 01:21:224 (3,4,5) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6882549 Violet is your current pattern, while the light blue objects are the duplicated and rotated version of 01:21:224 (3,4) - . Maybe it is nothing for you, but these small details really do make a difference if you pile them up across the all diff, so please... fix
- 01:46:669 (2) - again small details, but this looks 5 times less random than a straight + curved slider pair\ fix
- 02:15:412 (5) - the strong beat is on the tail =w=" fix
- basically this kiai time will most likely have all the same issues I already pointed out so let's leave it at that
- 02:21:538 (2) - strong beat is on the tail fix
- 02:16:198 (1,2,3,4) - go look for what I suggested for 00:37:402 - fix
- 02:33:318 (4) - instead of this note, which is not in the song, why not using a 3/4 slider for 02:33:161 (3) - and create a less stressing rhythm? ._. fix
- 02:50:124 (1,2) - just one big slider works way better why? you can't hear the violoncelle?

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Kyshiro

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Kyshiro 2016-12-24T13:59:57+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Kyshiro:
- 00:37:559 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ignoring the high pitched sound brings down a bit the overall song expression but oh well... I guess it's late to change this now. It just doesn't make sense when you followed that sound with every nearby pattern tho. (00:41:957 (1,2,1,1) - reference) A stream here feels most fitting here imo
- 00:57:035 (1,2,3,4) - probably just personal, but I was expecting more movement seeing how the song evolves. Dumb example Did something similar
- 01:04:889 (3) - ctrl + g? It looks like a better flow to me Sure
- 01:51:538 (1) - I wonder what's the difference between this and 01:49:025 (4) - 01:46:512 (4) - 01:54:051 (4) - I don't get it lol
- 02:18:711 (1,2) - probably not so noticeable, but this part feels less "jumpy" than 02:19:339 (4,5,6,7) - for example, even if they are the same. Suggestion Fixed

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Mismagius

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Mismagius 2016-12-24T14:46:47+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Bluedragon:
- 00:54:993 (4) - maybe unstack this. The stack creates a strange stop in the flow, which doesn't happen on similar stuff like 01:00:019 (4) - for example done
- 02:26:878 (4,5,6,7) - not so sure about using this shape when 02:27:192 (6,7) - have clearly stronger emphasis in the song fixed

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