1. Mid-Summer Marathon - 7Key (4,67 stars, 3903 notes)

Blocko wrote:

It's happening!!!

Julie wrote:

Blocko wrote:

It's happening!!!

Julie wrote:

Blocko wrote:

It's happening!!!

Todestrieb wrote:

So polished, here comes your Kudosu Star ma boi (sorry I can't mod it, It's already perfect at my eyes).

Edit: 03:31:070 (211070|3) - Ho wait isn't this wrong snapped? It sounds a little late in 25% when you start to listen at 03:31:029. Maybe It's just my imagination toh. Yeah, it's literally 10 ms earlier on the 1/16 tick (03:31:060 - ), see it's not perfect yet haha

Blocko wrote:

It's happening!!!

1. 00:13:029 - Add a note at col 4? You've placed "drumish" instrument on the left side, and gave triples to every bass rhythm, therefore adding a note there seems quite legit
2. 00:20:904 (20904|3,20904|4,20904|2) - Is this an intended triple? I'd suggest to remove this for the consistency with 00:20:404 (20404|2,20404|4,20654|2,20654|4) - these notes. Besides it would be more comfortable for the play (two-handed streams)
3. In fact, a note could be added 00:21:029 - here at col 4, would give more impact for the vocal entrance. Also you gave 5 notes to every bass line, such as 00:23:029 - 00:25:029 - 00:27:029 - , etc.
4. 01:06:404 (66404|2,66404|4,66529|2,66529|4) - Were these jacks intended? If not, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6710782 this could give more symmetrical impact
5. 01:20:779 - Another short LN for the end of the vocal sound? There's actually another vocal here
6. 01:28:029 - Add note at col 1?
7. 01:56:029 (116029|3,116029|1,116185|4,116185|5) - These 'wub wub' sounds could be represented as LNs, 01:57:529 (117529|4,117654|2) - Same for these and so on
8. 02:56:029 (176029|3) - This to col 6 to avoid pressure on thumb?
9. 04:30:404 (270404|6,270404|0) - These could be longer, maybe up to 04:30:591 - . I think they are same as 04:31:154 (271154|1,271154|2) - these, which are longer.
10. 04:43:779 - How about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6710859
11. 04:59:779 (299779|5) - Shift to left hand? That returning stairs are quite hard to hit (well at least it's hard for me xd)

Interlude- wrote:

Interlude's Requested Modding
1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / 7

[Mid-Summer Marathon]

1. 00:13:029 - Add a note at col 4? You've placed "drumish" instrument on the left side, and gave triples to every bass rhythm, therefore adding a note there seems quite legit The problem is that it will create a really uncomfortable transition, it's already hard to hit. I will do it if someone else points it out as well tho
2. 00:20:904 (20904|3,20904|4,20904|2) - Is this an intended triple? I'd suggest to remove this for the consistency with 00:20:404 (20404|2,20404|4,20654|2,20654|4) - these notes. Besides it would be more comfortable for the play (two-handed streams) Alright, removed middle note
3. In fact, a note could be added 00:21:029 - here at col 4, would give more impact for the vocal entrance. Also you gave 5 notes to every bass line, such as 00:23:029 - 00:25:029 - 00:27:029 - , etc.Sure
4. 01:06:404 (66404|2,66404|4,66529|2,66529|4) - Were these jacks intended? If not, https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6710782 this could give more symmetrical impact Done
5. 01:20:779 - Another short LN for the end of the vocal sound? There's actually another vocal here Awkward transition with SV, will pass on that
6. 01:28:029 - Add note at col 1? Sure
7. 01:56:029 (116029|3,116029|1,116185|4,116185|5) - These 'wub wub' sounds could be represented as LNs, 01:57:529 (117529|4,117654|2) - Same for these and so on Intended to be just doubles with SV because of the very unusual snaps
8. 02:56:029 (176029|3) - This to col 6 to avoid pressure on thumb? Good idea
9. 04:30:404 (270404|6,270404|0) - These could be longer, maybe up to 04:30:591 - . I think they are same as 04:31:154 (271154|1,271154|2) - these, which are longer. I can agree to that
10. 04:43:779 - How about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6710859 Intended trill
11. 04:59:779 (299779|5) - Shift to left hand? That returning stairs are quite hard to hit (well at least it's hard for me xd) It follows the short "coil" pattern around here (http://puu.sh/sGkzz/9a26be9300.jpg), but will consider if someone else points it out

Wow, nice hitsounding and mapping. Pretty much nothing to point out for me. Good luck!

Protastic101 wrote:

I procrastinate so much that the map is already ready for rank and I'm here like, "have a hitsound check"

oops

[General]

1. LR_Clap Kick Fast Low Beat is a pretty big file when it doesn't need to be. I've compressed it for you here http://puu.sh/t76y5.wav
2. LR_Hit Snare Soft has some silence at the end of it, but it's pretty short and doesn't matter than much. Fix here though if there's a hitsound nazi out there somewhere http://puu.sh/t76Jm.wav
3. LR_Kick Loud Bass Drop is unnecessarily large. Compressed http://puu.sh/t76Q4.wav
4. Silence at the end of LR_Kick Low Strong Beat. Fix here http://puu.sh/t76Vo.wav
5. Compressed LR3_FX LRGP for you (saves 200kb, great right?) http://puu.sh/t7738.wav
6. More compressed files! LR3_GrowlBassDFM
7. There's so many hitsounds and I'm hoping I haven't screwed up the naming in any of them like LR3_GrowlLRVD
8. compression intensifies for LR3_GrowlMBVX
9. LR3_GrowlMRFL might be the last one to compress?
10. LR3_GrowlWSL, also got compressed, so maybe not.
    All fixed!

[How does anyone shift through this nightmarish hell of sample names?]
Quick note and I'm sure you probably already know this, but just in case, know that you can view storyboarded samples by pressing tab while in the compose tab of the editor to get stuff like this



These are samples that will play even if the player fails to hit the note at the same place the sample is, and this gets disorienting for players who play with hitsounds cause idk, they just missed a note and stuff yet the sample plays. What's life? Tbh the way I see it here is that a lot of those samples compliment the song in such a way that you won't notice the SB'ed samples, BUT you will clearly notice them when playing the map, which is a pretty neat thing.

00:28:320 - Why not just add a grace note here and put 0:28:320 LR_Clap hollow echo.wav@44% on the note instead of leaving it storyboarded in? There's no sound supporting that note, removed the SB hitsound tho

00:33:279 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100%
00:33:779 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100%
00:34:279 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100% - Bring all these samples from the storyboard and assign them to two notes by splitting their volume (so 50% on each note to get 100%) 00:33:279 (33279|1,33279|5,33779|5,33779|0,34279|1,34279|5) - I like the hitnormals here, so I just made one note sampled with 100% and second left as hitnormal, fits better for me

00:34:654 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100%
00:34:654 LR_Snare Hat 2.wav@50%
00:34:779 LR_Snare Hat 2.wav@75%
00:34:779 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100%
00:34:904 LR_Snare Hat 2.wav@100%
00:34:904 LR_Kick Beat 2.wav@100% - Apply all these hitsounds to 00:34:654 (34654|5,34654|6,34779|1,34779|2,34904|2,34904|1) - . No need to split sample volume since it's already that way in the storyboard. Done all

00:50:654 - Could probably add a note here and move 0:50:654 LR3_AGG C6.wav@28% from the storyboard to a note. Protip: you can just doubletap the note while holding LCtrl key to move the storyboarded note onto the playfield
00:53:945 - Similar to the above, in order to move 0:53:945 LR3_AGG F5.wav@45% to a note. Also, grace notes and poly rhythms are 10/10 so idk. This would be REALLY awkward to play so I just deleted those samples

01:00:529 LR_Drum Barrel Finish.wav@22% - Move this from the storyboard onto 01:00:529 (60529|2) - Fixed

01:01:529 LR_Kick Drum Fast.wav@78%
01:01:529 LR_Drum Barrel Finish.wav@22%
01:01:779 LR_Clap hollow echo.wav@50%
01:01:779 LR_Snare Fast.wav@50% - 01:01:529 - 01:01:779 - Eh, dunno about playability, but if it's not too much trouble, it'd probably be best to add jumps at these places in order to put SBed samples onto an actual note. Deleted samples

01:09:529 - Add LR_Kick Drum Fast.wav@78% and LR_Drum Barrel Finish.wav@22% to the storyboard to be consistent with the above listed points.

01:15:029 - Pretty similar to what I've been mentioning earlier about adding notes and assigning the SBed sample to it. Again, removed both samples

02:00:029 (120029|5,120029|1) - If you removed the hitsounds from either of these LNs and just doubled the other's hitsounds, you could move one of the SBed samples onto a note.
02:03:529 (123529|0) - Similar to above, readd the same sample to this LN but at 75% volume and remove the SBed sample
02:39:279 (159279|5) - Readd the sample but at 36% and remove the SBed sample in the same place. 40%
02:40:279 (160279|5,160279|2) - Combine HS volume and move one of the SBed samples onto whichever note is now lacking a hitsound
02:48:279 (168279|2,168279|4) - Combine HS volume and move SBed samples to a note
05:05:529 (305529|2,305529|4) - Combine HS vol and all that jazz
05:20:404 (320404|1,320404|0) - Combine and bring 5:20:404 LR_Clap kick.wav@41% onto a note.
05:21:404 (321404|3,321404|4) - Combine and assign 5:21:404 LR_Clap kick.wav@41% to a note.
05:22:404 (322404|3,322404|0) - Combine and add 5:22:404 LR_Clap kick.wav@41% to a note. Fixed all above

05:23:154 LR_Clap Kick Fast Low Beat.wav@41% - Remove this from the storyboard and just add it to 05:23:154 (323154|5) - 's volume.Just deleted it, no need to make the clap louder

05:23:779 (323779|0,323779|2) - Combine the hitsound volumes together and move 5:23:779 LR_Clap Kick Fast Low Beat.wav@41% onto 05:23:779 (323779|1) - since they're the same sample. Deleted as well

Basically, if there's two samples of the same type on two different notes, you can just add their volumes together and apply it to one note only, which means you have another note that's unhitsounded, and from there you can move any storyboarded hitsounds onto said note. The opposite applies too, if you have unhitsounded notes, it's a good idea to assign as many SBed samples onto the notes. Anyways, some of the notes like 05:26:404 (326404|1) - had claps applied to them, but if I think the way it works is that if there's an imported sample already assigned to the note, the editor claps/whistles/finishes won't play. That's why I suggested you combine a lot of the samples onto one note in order to use SBed samples as little as possible.

I have no idea if what I wrote above makes sense cause im too lazy to proofread. Anyways, best of luck, and happy new years too!

Protastic101 wrote:

Hahahahaha, the biggest lie ever


Hey, better late then never! w

How to trigger Prota? "Who needs hitsounds lol?"

[General]

1. Btw, if you remove or add something, be sure to do whatever you need to do with the HS
2. Feel like OD 9 is pushing it a bit too much. There's about 4 notes for every LN, which isn't too large a number, so maybe OD 8.7 or so is better? Disagreed, OD 9 is nicely challenging, making the map harder to score well at, which also increases replayability in a not-too-dickish of a way. And the diffrence between OD 9 and OD 8,7 is pretty small anyway.

[Mid summer stuff]
Ok, so to note, I modded without the hitsounds on, and when checking them, I realized some of my suggestions don't make sense cause of how the samples were placed. So yeah, rip.

00:05:029 (5029|1,5404|0) - I think it'd be cool to stack these notes in 2 since they're the same sound.
00:05:779 (5779|1,6029|2) - Similar to the above with this, and so on.
00:07:029 (7029|5,7029|1,7029|2,7029|0) - 00:09:029 (9029|2,9029|1,9029|0,9029|5) - 00:11:029 (11029|2,11029|1,11029|0,11029|4) - I'd consider reducing these to hands only since you started off the section at 00:05:029 (5029|5,5029|3,5029|1) - using a hand, and similarly ended it with the same number of notes at 00:13:029 (13029|0,13029|5,13029|1) - Reorganized the entire section a bit to make it more representative of what type of hits are there (you can notice that one column goes for one specific instrument there)
00:12:529 (12529|0,12779|0) - I'd consider moving these to 2 for symmetry, and so the trill is a bit more equal on both hands Nah, I like the idea of trills being not symmetrical, makes the pattern more interesting + left hand has the 3 note stair right before that so it would be more awkward to play
00:17:279 (17279|2,17279|0,17279|4,17404|6) - I would probably flip the chords here so that the single comes in on 00:17:279 - , and the hand at 00:17:404 - since that's where the kick is I moved 00:17:779 (17779|0) - up by 1/4 so that both notes are jumps because the earlier one does have that pong sound thingy coming in and the kick is not hard enough to make a triple imo
00:19:404 - Similar to the above, I would add 2 more notes for the kick or whatever sound it is. Could make it 1 and 3 like 00:19:779 (19779|0,19779|2) - Here I added two notes because it's more separated from other chords, added on 12 tho to make it more varied
00:32:029 (32029|5,32029|3,32029|1,32154|2,32154|4,32279|0,32279|6,32404|2,32404|4) - Tbh, I don't really hear any additional sounds here, only at 00:32:529 - is where I notice a quiet tapping sound in the background. Either way, I'd probably just make 00:32:029 (32029|1,32029|3,32029|5,32529|5,32529|3,32529|1) - jumps if you don't wanna make them singles. I'd probably just remove 00:32:029 (32029|3,32529|3) - to keep the spaced out chords you have here The sounds do get more intense here, building up to the next section, and the triples are triples because of the 1/1 beat that has harder chords just before, fine as it is imo
00:35:029 - Aw, dunno why you don't map the moving strings part like at 00:35:279 - 00:35:654 - 00:36:529 - and etc. Actually, listening to it, the snaps are weird, nvm That and also it's a good transition that relieves you from the tension of the buildup
01:01:654 (61654|4,61654|1,61654|0,61654|5) - I get what you're mapping here, but it feels weird to just ignore the clap at 01:01:779 - when you've mapped it previously in this section and put more emphasis on it than the other notes like at 00:56:779 (56779|3,56779|2,56779|4) - with the hands. Maybe try this instead? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235490 This whole section is structured to fit in with the vocals of the song and the pauses are consistent with them as well. I don't wanna break that trend (Evening's part still too)
01:03:154 (63154|3,63154|1,63154|2) - Feel like the sound here comes in stronger on the 1/8 after at 01:03:216 - , so I might consider moving it up there instead. I'm strongly debating about this one, here's why: 1) The vocal mapping again, even tho sounds are on 1/8 later (apart from the vocal) it has been mapped timing off vocals and more importantly 2) Changing two notes of that chord to be 1/8 up (because vocal stays on the 1/4) makes the pattern look pretty bad compared to the rest of it. I am concerned about it being pretty bad to play, so I'm going towards keeping it as 1/4 to simplify that, but I do recognize that later there are really wonky snaps anyway so idk. Pattern in question http://puu.sh/tPA5j/8afb070847.png Keeping it for now, but I wanna hear your follow-up to that
01:03:654 (63654|1,63654|0) - Might remove a note here since there's no other sound than what sounds kind of like an echo from the drum
01:03:904 (63904|1,63904|2) - ^ Sure
01:04:904 (64904|2,65029|1,65154|2) - Would be cool to make this symmetrical, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235518 Leaving as it is, more interesting imo (yeah I know, some patterns are symmetrical, but it will be more interesting that way)
01:07:904 (67904|2,67904|1) - Similar to what I mentioned above, the main attack of the sound comes in on the 1/2 before, at 01:07:779 - instead, so I think it might make more sense to move this jump there.
01:09:779 - I recommend using a [147] triple here for the clap Vocal mapping theory mentioned earlier, really don't wanna break it
01:20:129 - Is the SV here unsnapped? I'm unable to find a snapping that let's me land on it perfectly. I think it should be snapped at 01:20:154 -
01:20:229 - Similarly, this SV also confuzzles me since Idk the snap
01:20:329 - ^ Fixed all
01:51:029 (111029|6,111029|3,111029|0) - I think this is supposed to come in on 01:51:091 - instead? If so, I would recommend removing the note in 4 to avoid a 1/8 jack. Even tho it's 120bpm, I still think that would be too fast Removed both notes from the spacebar because it was really awkward to play already and didn't really fit in. The other point accepted.
02:17:529 (137529|0,137685|0,137841|0) - I'd try and make these 1/8 long instead of 3/16 for better playability as the current length makes the release and hit kind of hard to time. Fair point, done
02:45:654 - Why not add a jump here for the claps? Like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235755 Right hand had an awkward shield so I did flip two notes there, but apart from that done
02:48:779 (168779|0,168779|2,169029|0,169154|1) - Meh, I feel like hitting short notes on the outer columns of LNs is a pain just cause your other fingers are kind of dependent on the index finger for strength. Maybe switching it so the LN is in 1 would be better, like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235788 That actually makes the LN harder to transition into and out of because there is a 4 note 2121 trill with last 1 being the LN and then you have an outward stair that ends in a shield:

So for me it's easier this way.
03:27:279 - 03:27:779 - Might consider mapping the echoes here using short notes, so like the first note in 3, the second note in 5 would be cool imo I don't really like this idea tbh, there's just vocal echos mapped here for transitioning and it's enough imo
03:43:154 - 03:43:216 - I think it'd be nice to map the twang kind of sound here as a trill, kind of like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235857 Keeping current setup for simplicity's sake, random 1/8 LN trill on outer columns in a calm part is almost a guaranteed miss/break
03:59:529 - 03:59:591 - Feels a bit awkward to not have a note here, at least on the downbeat for that lute kind of instrument sound thingy tfw instrument names are harder than me trying to play any 7k map Done
04:20:279 (260279|4,260279|2,260779|4,260779|2,261279|2,261279|4,261779|2,261779|4) - Imo, these feel pretty weird since they're not really snapped to any particular sound in the music. I think a rhythm more like this would work https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235911 Again those are snapped to the pong instrument thingy in the background to keep it simple for the buildup, however last two were early by 1/8 so moved them up
04:30:279 (270279|1,270279|5) - For these LNs, I think it'd be better to make them reverse shields with 04:30:404 (270404|0,270404|6) - since the sounds are similar pitched, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7235947 Made them 1/8 LNs o wo
04:31:779 - Just my opinion, but for these few SVs here, I think using a quick 1/2 speed up like 1.1x speed would be better since it'd be representing the beep's glissando here. Anyways, that's what I think would represent the continuous sound better That's a valid alternative, but I think that the current SV putting more emphasis on the vigorous and quite sudden return of the chorus suits it more.
05:08:029 (308029|2) - Might consider moving to 2 for hand balance I guess? Idk, this feels a little right hand heavy atm, to me at least.Sure
05:35:654 (335654|4,335654|6,335654|5,335779|2,335779|0,335779|1,335904|6,335904|5,335904|4) - I think this current placement is a little confusing since 05:35:154 (335154|4,335154|6,335154|5,335216|1,335216|2,335216|0,335279|5,335279|6,335279|4,335404|2,335404|0,335404|1,335466|4,335466|5,335466|6,335529|0,335529|1,335529|2) - makes the player think that patterns like this will be 1/8, only to be surprised by 1/4 instead. I'd consider jacking them in [345] like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7236014 The things you did not see in this suggestion are actually making this pattern horrible to play, I'll explain why:
1)This pattern has heavy SV stutters and the pattern you suggested has a 5 note ling 1/4 anchor on column 3 mixed in with the 1/8 trill

(captured the green lines intentionally)
2)The two handed jack right after two separate 1/8 handtrills, which play like jumptrills is really awkward to exectue on it's own
3)The pattern is already oriented in such a way that player will assume that it's a 1/4 handtrill all the way because of SVs and the 1/4 break between two 1/8 handtrills, so this will only make it weird to play. Handtrills nicely accent the ending imo

[Hitsounds]
01:0:529 LR_Drum Barrel Finish.wav@22% - Might just move this onto the playfield instead since none of the notes 01:00:529 (60529|6,60529|2,60529|4) - are hitsounded anyways. Fixed

Protastic101 wrote:

Ok, sorry about the delay, school is being more rip than usual for me lol

So regarding that 1/8 at 01:03:216 - that I mentioned, I like the pattern you have there. I was listening to the part a few times and you can easily hear that the clap comes in later than what the simple 1/4 chord stream suggests, but leaving the 3/8 space from 01:03:029 (63029|6,63029|5,63029|0) - would have made it awkward to play, so the pattern you suggested works well since it keeps the 1/4 base rhythm steady while also giving emphasis to the delayed clap on the 1/8. Okay, did that, a bit worried about it being awkward but yo fuck that lmao

00:47:404 - 00:47:529 - Similarly, there's a kick and snap here that you may consider adding notes for. You kind of did something close at 00:44:935 (44935|3,44997|4) - with the entrance of the clap since it was a little early in the music. Apart from the fact that first note should be 1/8 later and second 1/8 earlier I agree, done.

01:12:529 (72529|2) - I think you could end this at 01:12:654 - because the music pauses for 1/4 beat here, and having an LN go through that stillness feels unnatural imo. The vocal is also really short too which could be another reason? Agreed, done

00:59:904 (59904|2) - I might remove this note to be consistent with the previous vocal phrase since there was no note at the end of it at 00:57:904 - . Or, you could add a note there instead, but I like the 1/2 pause since it gives more emphasis to the vocals imo. There is a vocal note (Gumi finishes a word with n there), but it's not that significant so I did remove it

04:43:779 (283779|0,283841|2,283904|4,283966|2) - This is just my own opinion on comfort, but I think it'd be easier to hit without a single column gap between the notes. So basically, instead of going 1-3-5, it'd be more connected like 1-2-3, but as I said, that's just my own preference when playing. On top of that, most of the rolls like at 04:51:779 - 04:59:779 - or 04:35:779 - have been connected. This is actually a very old suggestion made by Agka iirc, tbh I do like that it's awkward, it should be, other hihat bursts are pretty awkward too, this is just a diffrent way to go about it. (at first it was all trills lol)


That should be the last of everything \o/

-Kamikaze- wrote:

Everyone is busy/closed/retired so I'll take any help tbh fam