Jeff Williams - When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams) [Ca · forum

Sorceress

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2015-10-17T00:16:24+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 16 January 2018 at 04:00:21

Artist: Jeff Williams
Title: When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
Source: RWBY
Tags: Withered Lotus JBHyperion - Magic Bomb - Volume Season 3 Opening cut ver
BPM: 105.3
Filesize: 3359kb
Play Time: 01:16
Difficulties Available:

Hyperion's Salad (2.03 stars, 155 notes)
Lotus' Rain (4.38 stars, 315 notes)
MBomb's Cup (1.67 stars, 127 notes)
Overdose (5.65 stars, 271 notes)
Platter (3.32 stars, 302 notes)
Rain (4.2 stars, 290 notes)

Download: Jeff Williams - When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
The map so nice we ranked it twice
We're back!
Bubbled by Hareimu
Qualified by Benny-

Previous Nominators

Bubbled by Nokashi
Qualified by Absolute Zero

Infamously unranked by Peppy for overlapping notes in the Platter

MBomb's Cup by MBomb

Hyperion's Salad by JBHyperion

Platter by Me

Rain by Me

Lotus' Rain by Withered Lotus

Overdose by Me

Timing and mp3 taken from Pho's mapset!

Last edited by Sorceress 2018-01-25T00:22:03+00:00, edited 98 times in total.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2015-10-18T09:59:02+00:00

Timing check requested in PM

A basic summary of what's changed and why:

00:07:112 - New timing point at 00:07:112 so that 00:07:113 (1,2,3) snap to white ticks - no functional change to the map, just done in the interest of "correctness"
00:10:003 - Timing point here BPM changed (+4, BPM 235), since this drumroll is actually a little faster than that of the main melody - these notes will need a minor resnap, but positioning shouldn't need changing
00:10:896 - The "biggest" change, although it leaves the map functionally no different - this has been moved forward 1/2 to 00:11:024 since this is the true downbeat following the drum rhythm. It's easy to make this mistake, since the guitar and vocals do start at 00:10:896 but if you listen with this arrangement, all the drum beats land on red ticks when they should be white. basically everything from here has just stayed the same, with the timeline moving "forward" 1/2 a beat
00:27:647 - 00:31:828 - That made these timing points unnecessary, since they were just metronome resets that have already been done at 00:11:024 now
00:40:139 - Timing point added here with BPM halved to 115.5 - I don't know if you intend to map this (since it's a spinner in both diffs so far) but I fixed it just in case
00:44:164 - Same 3/2 delay in the main drum rhythm here as before, so I moved this forward 1/2 to 00:44:294 and added a green line in it's place to start the kiai in the same way as before. Shouldn't be any functional changes to the patterns or snapping since I just moved everything by 1/2 again
01:07:152 - Added a timing point here to halve the BPM, again should be no changes

Other than that, there may be a few 1ms unsnaps due to rounding, but these will have almost no impact on the patterns/placement and AImod will pick them up pretty easily anyway so it won't take much to fix.

New Timing

Just copy and paste this into your .osu files over the TimingPoints Section.

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Any questions, let me know.

Good luck! (:

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2015-10-18T17:57:22+00:00

Huge help as always, thank you very much!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-10-24T11:29:24+00:00

Who could possibly have guessed I'd be back here a whole year later with a GD? hint: it's me

Why do you do this to me

osu file format v14

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WidescreenStoryboard: 1

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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.1

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TitleUnicode:When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
Artist:Jeff Williams
ArtistUnicode:Jeff Williams
Creator:Sorcerer
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Tags:
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Not hitsounded yet.

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-10-24T17:48:59+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:

Who could possibly have guessed I'd be back here a whole year later with a GD? hint: it's me

Why do you do this to me

osu file format v14

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Not hitsounded yet.

Thanks man. Hopefully this mapset will get somewhere in the next year this time. Remind me to never submit unfinished beatmaps again

MBomb

MBomb 2016-10-29T21:58:42+00:00

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-10-29T22:09:42+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

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Thanks my dude, uploaded it. Just waiting on Withered's Rain then the real suffering begins (:

BoberOfDarkness

1,059 posts

Joined October 2013

BoberOfDarkness 2016-11-26T08:53:56+00:00

Ho ho ho I am your Santa

General

00:43:989 - I think the 231 BPM point should be placed here, white ticks will be on the strongest beats and at the start of vocals. Generally it makes more sense to place there a red point.

Salad

Only one issue I can find here is spacing on 231 BPM 1/2 dashes, on all of them I would reduce the distance from around 2.40 to 2.20

00:14:510 (4,1) -
00:16:847 (6,1) -
00:18:666 (4,1) -
00:18:666 (4,1) -
00:27:367 (7,1) -
00:28:406 (4,5) - this a such difficulty spike, high ds + sharp direction change
00:35:549 (5,1) -
00:37:757 (7,1) -
00:53:469 (3,4) -
00:56:326 (5,1) -

Okay not only one, the spinner (01:15:287 (1) - ) end feels pretty random for me. For me it should end at 01:16:586 - where is end of drums line or whatever we can call that or here - 01:18:924 - where the long sound in background fades away. The 01:16:846 - no real sound to follow so for me it totally doesn't fit as spinner end.

Platter

00:00:698 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:01:838 (1,2,3,4) - the shape of streams doesn't flow to me. Try - http://puu.sh/stj2X/68b82ea834.jpg

00:10:744 (1,3) - distance feels too high

00:17:367 (1,2,3,4) - antiflow movement makes the streams very hard to read so to play. I think you should make it easier or get rid of the antiflow.

00:33:860 (2,3) - distance feels too high

00:51:131 (1,2,3,4) - well the shape of stream doesn't flow tbh. Something like that would be perfect - http://puu.sh/sttkz/46512b94f6.jpg

I think you should introduce more 1/2 hypers instead of hard movement patterns at this diff.

Rain

00:04:687 (1,2) -, 00:05:852 (1,2) - and 00:06:977 (1,2) - 1/12 beatsnap works better here for me.

00:18:405 (1,2,3,1) - I wonder if the pattern is not too 'insane' as for Rain. Like for me combo of 2 hypers is fine at rain but of 3 is a bit too much but well it plays nice so *shrug

00:26:652 (4,1) - 00:26:912 (4,1) - the distance is too high for the normal dash, I am sugesting you to lower distance or making them hypersdashes.

00:33:730 (2,3,1) - the jump from (3) to (1) is nazi, it would be better if the 3 > 1 could be hyper

01:16:628 - I would add spinner here as well

Overdone

00:17:367 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - sorry but the left-right movement here is just boring to play. I mean making movement more various should make map a lot better to play and here you could use something like this http://puu.sh/sttNy/8c1d1967f6.jpg

00:21:003 (1) - place on x:488 and 00:21:133 (2) - on x:272 I feel that need hyperdash

01:07:755 (3) - 01:09:833 (3) - 01:11:911 (3) - 01:13:988 (3) - I think you could make those more interesting you tried the patterning and timeline - http://puu.sh/sttVY/14c002e9c5.jpg

01:16:586 - I feel you can place a spinner here as well (:

MB is noob thats why I could't find anything in his diff

Good luck, and happy holidays!

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-11-27T09:54:36+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
Ho ho ho I am your Santa

General

00:43:989 - I think the 231 BPM point should be placed here, white ticks will be on the strongest beats and at the start of vocals. Generally it makes more sense to place there a red point. Generally yes, but this vocal is clearly extended by 1/2 as are all the vocals in this section, see 00:46:067 (1) - 00:48:144 (1) - etc. The metronome follows the drums, which clearly strike on the white ticks only when the red line is placed at its current position
Salad

Only one issue I can find here is spacing on 231 BPM 1/2 dashes, on all of them I would reduce the distance from around 2.40 to 2.20

00:14:510 (4,1) -
00:16:847 (6,1) -
00:18:666 (4,1) -
00:18:666 (4,1) -
00:27:367 (7,1) -
00:28:406 (4,5) - this a such difficulty spike, high ds + sharp direction change
00:35:549 (5,1) -
00:37:757 (7,1) -
00:53:469 (3,4) -
00:56:326 (5,1) -

Reduced all a tiny bit, though these aren't nearly as bad as you're making them out to be imo

Okay not only one, the spinner (01:15:287 (1) - ) end feels pretty random for me. For me it should end at 01:16:586 - where is end of drums line or whatever we can call that or here - 01:18:924 - where the long sound in background fades away. The 01:16:846 - no real sound to follow so for me it totally doesn't fit as spinner end. Will let Sorcerer decide for consistency

Good luck, and happy holidays!

Thanks for the suggestions

Salad

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-11-27T22:15:28+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
Ho ho ho I am your Santa

General

00:43:989 - I think the 231 BPM point should be placed here, white ticks will be on the strongest beats and at the start of vocals. Generally it makes more sense to place there a red point. - JBH answered this pretty well

Platter

00:00:698 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:01:838 (1,2,3,4) - the shape of streams doesn't flow to me. Try - http://puu.sh/stj2X/68b82ea834.jpg - Done this as I think it looks aesthetically better though I feel they still played just fine

00:10:744 (1,3) - distance feels too high - Moved 00:11:133 (2,3) - a grid space right

00:17:367 (1,2,3,4) - antiflow movement makes the streams very hard to read so to play. I think you should make it easier or get rid of the antiflow. - Hmm, I really think this plays and reads just fine. Maybe bumping up the ar to 8.2 because of the density may help? We'll see

00:33:860 (2,3) - distance feels too high - Reduced

00:51:131 (1,2,3,4) - well the shape of stream doesn't flow tbh. Something like that would be perfect - http://puu.sh/sttkz/46512b94f6.jpg - Almost done, it's a similar shape but i've used equal distancing between the notes to fit with the style of the rest of the map

I think you should introduce more 1/2 hypers instead of hard movement patterns at this diff. - I've purposefully avoided using 1/2 hypers in this diff as it's fairly high BPM. I think hyper usage is best kept to a minimum here, I'd already "remapped" this and took out a lot of hypers in the process. I haven't intentionally put in hard movement patterns but If I've missed the mark they can always be nerfed and simpilfied.

Overdone

00:17:367 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - sorry but the left-right movement here is just boring to play. I mean making movement more various should make map a lot better to play and here you could use something like this http://puu.sh/sttNy/8c1d1967f6.jpg - You really think so? I quite enjoy these movements ;<

00:21:003 (1) - place on x:488 and 00:21:133 (2) - on x:272 I feel that need hyperdash - Yeah this certainly needed a hyper. Though I felt having 00:21:003 (1) - at x:488 made for too large a distance so I've put it at x:432 and moved 00:21:133 (2) - to x:176 and made it curve

01:07:755 (3) - 01:09:833 (3) - 01:11:911 (3) - 01:13:988 (3) - I think you could make those more interesting you tried the patterning and timeline - http://puu.sh/sttVY/14c002e9c5.jpg - Yeah I quite like this

01:16:586 - I feel you can place a spinner here as well (: - Left this without a spinner for now, almost all diffs are ending in a different way at a different time though I think a spinner in all diffs will be the better option so I'll check with Mbomb and Lotus that they're alright with that. Also shortened the spinner in JBH's Salad to end at 01:16:586 -

MB is noob thats why I could't find anything in his diff

Good luck, and happy holidays!

Thank you for the mod SantaOfDarkness! Updated mine + JBH's diffs, Lotus' not yet applied.

Withered Lotus

105 posts

Joined November 2013

Withered Lotus 2016-12-01T19:45:29+00:00

BoberOfDarkness wrote:
Rain

00:04:687 (1,2) -, 00:05:852 (1,2) - and 00:06:977 (1,2) - 1/12 beatsnap works better here for me. Yeah, I'd agree, changed.

00:18:405 (1,2,3,1) - I wonder if the pattern is not too 'insane' as for Rain. Like for me combo of 2 hypers is fine at rain but of 3 is a bit too much but well it plays nice so *shrug hmm, hard to say, I see where you're coming from and I don't expect this to stay but I feel it's arguably reasonable with the nature of the map's difficulty.

00:26:652 (4,1) - 00:26:912 (4,1) - the distance is too high for the normal dash, I am sugesting you to lower distance or making them hypersdashes. Reduced distance a bit.

00:33:730 (2,3,1) - the jump from (3) to (1) is nazi, it would be better if the 3 > 1 could be hyper Yeah this jump is kinda mean, reduced distance a bit.

01:16:628 - I would add spinner here as well I'm not a fan of this tbh, doesn't feel like it fits very well.

Thanks for the mod.

nerfed the intro a bit.

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-12-01T21:09:05+00:00

Updated xd

Riari

743 posts

Joined April 2013

Riari 2016-12-03T00:00:03+00:00

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[Overdose]

00:09:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like this should be swapped to a 4-3 pattern rather than a 3-4 pattern. 00:10:354 (5) - feels much stronger than 00:10:224 (4) - and it would flow much better into a really heavy note such as 00:10:744 (1) - .
00:20:094 (2,3) - This hyper feels really forced. All previous ones like this follow a strong vocal or instrumental change (00:11:783 (2,3) - is an example) but this doesn't really follow anything. 00:20:354 (4,1) - would be more optimal to follow previous timeline hypers.
00:21:133 (2) - This hyper feels a bit early, 00:21:133 - feels like it should just be a normal note and 00:21:263 - is much stronger (vocally at least) so I would hyper here. This change follows previous timeline and fits quite well, 00:21:263 - holds vocal emphasis whilst 00:21:133 - follows the instrumental perfectly fine, creating good flow towards 00:21:523 (1) - .
00:21:523 (1) - If you change the point above I would consider hypering to this note. I would also consider removing the hyper to 00:21:783 (3) - if you do so as it is not consistent with 00:22:172 (2,3) - where you should hyper to 00:22:302 (3) - instead of 00:22:172 (2) - to continue vocal emphasis. 00:22:172 (2) - seems weaker vocally and through the instrumental so I would strongly consider changing this up.
00:22:562 (1,2) - Feels like it should be swapped around too. 00:22:432 (4,1) - is a really short distance considering how strong 00:22:562 (1) - is, especially if we look at how you hyper to 00:22:692 (2) - which is the passive continuation of 00:22:562 (1) - .
00:23:211 (2) - I would suggest the same as 00:21:133 (2) - here, a 1/1 slider just doesn't feel right to me.
00:24:250 (2) - ^
00:31:393 (3) - Consider making this a 1/2 slider? 00:31:588 (4,1) - sounds pretty gaudy due to the small gap that you haven't really used anywhere else. 00:31:393 (3) - "ends" at 00:31:523 - so I don't think its such a bad idea, the triplet sounds quite natural.
00:32:562 (4,5) - Swap these two around timeline wise? I think it sounds better, 00:32:562 - seems quite passive whilst 00:32:692 - starts vocally and is a downbeat. 00:33:081 (2) - and 00:34:120 (2) - are examples where you do something similar.
00:35:029 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is 1/3, there are 4 beats here and if you slow it down and play it through it fits perfectly. The section sounds really odd as it is now so I'd change it up for that. a 2-2 like you have going now (minus 00:35:289 (5) - ) fits nicely too.
00:53:209 (1,2,3,4) - I think that the hyper would be more fitting to go to 00:53:209 (1) - rather than 00:53:469 (3) - . Although it is the downbeat it doesn't seem strong enough to warrant it over 00:53:209 (1) - .
00:53:729 (1,2) - Similar to above, hyper placement here doesn't seem as fitting as it could be.
01:16:196 (4) - Ending here seems pretty boring and anti-climactic. Try hyper to a note at the end? It sounds fitting enough to me.

[NiceName's Rain]

00:48:922 (4) - Fiddle with this, move it forward and back again since it's not snapped properly.
Fix the other shite in AIMod too pls, thank.
00:04:687 (1,2) - These feel a bit odd, I personally thing that single notes or maybe even 1/2 sliders would fit better here. Maybe space them 1/8 rather than 1/12? I think it sounds a bit better.
00:07:952 (1) - Slider fits nicely until the end. Starting such a powerful section swap with a slider end feels really counter-productive. Maybe fade the slider out towards 00:09:364 - and start strong at 00:09:835 - ? Slider has same effect here but it doesn't strangle the section start.
00:12:301 (2,3) - Hyper here seems a bit strange to me, 00:12:431 (3) - seems like such a dead note compared to 00:12:171 (1) - which is stacked. I'd suggest swapping this around as I feel the emphasis here has been jumbled up a bit.
00:21:262 (1) - 1/2 repeater here? You've done it in places like 00:20:743 (1) - and 00:16:197 (1) - so it would be pretty consistent. I'd suggest similar for the ones after too.
00:31:132 (1) - Gap feels a bit odd after this, maybe two 1/2 sliders? It sounds pretty nice and bridges well.
00:32:171 - Pretty clear beat missed out here, simple circle bridges well between the two sliders on either side.
00:33:210 - Same as above here, happens a few more times after this and I'd suggest filling it in.
00:48:014 - Even if you don't fill in the ones above, I highly suggest this one due to it being kiai.
00:52:364 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is way too long. Dropping notes at previous points seems to have been to hold combo back for the overdose and this makes that completely useless. This stream should stop at 00:52:689 - latest, it goes back to a simple 1/2 after this so I'd mix it back up like you have been doing previously.
00:54:442 (4,6) - Also pretty unnececcary, wouldn't keep these here in the Rain.
00:54:637 (1,2,3) - Really conservative here, even though we are still in the kiai the red ticks are missing beats inside and between the sliders. Combo shouldn't be a problem with previous suggestions so I'd work this around.
01:16:066 (3,4,5) - feels pretty lame to walk, especially 01:16:455 (5) - maybe add some distance for a dash to final note or a direction change?

[Platter]

Similar to Lotus' diff, check AIMod and wiggle those two objects to snap them properly.
00:14:899 (1) - Consider making this a 1/2 repeater? Its following the vocals right now but it doesn't feel the greatest, there is a pitch shift from the downbeat and strong instrumental so I'd consider it a justified change.
00:19:055 (1) - This slider feels a tad too long, it doesn't really fit the vocal part and it covers a solid beat at 00:19:445 -. I'd knock it back about 1/1 and throw a 1/2 slider after it instead.
00:26:718 (5,5) - Fancy throwing some direction changes here? No big distance increases but directional changes for the streams would work nicely with the hitounds and whatnot.
00:52:625 (4) - I'd drop this note out here in exchange for some movement towards 00:52:690 (1) - . The note isn't really needed in the platter, the triplet does the job well but the 5-plet causes 00:52:690 (1) - to lose so much emphasis that the song places upon it.
00:54:768 (1) - Same as above here.
01:07:755 (3) - Split to two circles, cheeky hyper to 01:08:014 - to create a nice ending maybe? Same application to rest of ending.
01:15:287 (1) - I'd map this out here, the spinner feels so clunky and out of place ontop of that instrumental. Also inconsistent with other diffs on the set.

[JustBritishHyperion's Salad]

00:12:562 (4) - This sounds pretty funky here, missing out on 00:12:692 - sounds really odd. Maybe add a note or just repeat 00:11:912 (3) - ? 00:14:510 (4,1) - works nicely so maybe something like this could work here.
00:27:367 (7) - Maybe drop this out? Movement towards 00:27:497 (1) - is warranted but might spook the player. Whilst 00:27:367 (7) - isn't far away from 00:27:237 (6) - it feels quite expendable but still keeps a strong distance if it disappears. Similar to 00:31:393 (5,1) - kinda.
00:51:131 (3) - maybe drop this and just repeat 00:50:872 (2) - instead? Similar effect but looks nicer imo.
01:15:287 (1) - Feels lame, you mapped out where people used spinners before and I think thats really works nicely in this diff, but I also think this could work here in some ways.

[-Magic Benzy-'s Cup]

00:14:899 (1) - sounds better at 00:15:029 - to me. Extra random density here doesn't feel warranted or important to the song. Moving it also adds more emphasis to the vocals.
00:25:289 (1) - ^
00:31:263 - Gap here is good but I feel like adding a note here carries on well. It's quite audable and leaves a good gap until 00:31:653 (1) - .
00:34:770 (4) - Repeater here? Works really really well with the roll it lands on at 00:35:159 - and still works well as a curve.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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JBHyperion 2016-12-03T15:54:20+00:00

Riari wrote:
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[JustBritishHyperion's Salad]
00:12:562 (4) - This sounds pretty funky here, missing out on 00:12:692 - sounds really odd. Maybe add a note or just repeat 00:11:912 (3) - ? 00:14:510 (4,1) - works nicely so maybe something like this could work here. Was trying to focus only on vocal, but it does feel inconsistent with my other patterns, so I added a circle similar to 00:09:835 (1,2,3,1) -
00:27:367 (7) - Maybe drop this out? Movement towards 00:27:497 (1) - is warranted but might spook the player. Whilst 00:27:367 (7) - isn't far away from 00:27:237 (6) - it feels quite expendable but still keeps a strong distance if it disappears. Similar to 00:31:393 (5,1) - kinda. I want to keep the extra note here to build intensity and emphasis at the end of the measure, similar to 00:35:289 (4,5,1) - Considering the flow is very simple here, I think this should be ok
00:51:131 (3) - maybe drop this and just repeat 00:50:872 (2) - instead? Similar effect but looks nicer imo. A lack of spacing here would contradict the clap hitsound, so I've kept them separated for this emphasis
01:15:287 (1) - Feels lame, you mapped out where people used spinners before and I think thats really works nicely in this diff, but I also think this could work here in some ways. I don't have a spinner elsewhere in the diff and this felt like the best place to put one for me :/

Thanks for the mod!

Salad

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-12-06T20:05:53+00:00

Riari wrote:
Ho! Ho! Ho! Give me Kds!
I'm your santa for this week friendo and will be pointing out useless stuff on your map of beats.

[Overdose]
00:09:835 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I feel like this should be swapped to a 4-3 pattern rather than a 3-4 pattern. 00:10:354 (5) - feels much stronger than 00:10:224 (4) - and it would flow much better into a really heavy note such as 00:10:744 (1) - . - Moved 00:10:224 (4) - so the jump is now to 00:10:354 (5) -
00:20:094 (2,3) - This hyper feels really forced. All previous ones like this follow a strong vocal or instrumental change (00:11:783 (2,3) - is an example) but this doesn't really follow anything. 00:20:354 (4,1) - would be more optimal to follow previous timeline hypers. - So there's a couple of reasons I'd like to keep this, one being that I feel the way it plays matches the overall intensity of the song and secondly is that although this is a hyper it is nowhere near as emphasised as many others used in the song. There's no direction change on it, 00:19:964 (1,2,3,4) - is just one movement, hold shift and press left. It helps to keep the catcher moving fast to match the intensity of the song without putting emphasis on a note that doesn't need it
00:21:133 (2) - This hyper feels a bit early, 00:21:133 - feels like it should just be a normal note and 00:21:263 - is much stronger (vocally at least) so I would hyper here. This change follows previous timeline and fits quite well, 00:21:263 - holds vocal emphasis whilst 00:21:133 - follows the instrumental perfectly fine, creating good flow towards 00:21:523 (1) - . - Yeah 00:21:263 (3) - is 1/2 a tick earlier, I'm deaf. Consider it fixed
00:21:523 (1) - If you change the point above I would consider hypering to this note. I would also consider removing the hyper to 00:21:783 (3) - if you do so as it is not consistent with 00:22:172 (2,3) - where you should hyper to 00:22:302 (3) - instead of 00:22:172 (2) - to continue vocal emphasis. 00:22:172 (2) - seems weaker vocally and through the instrumental so I would strongly consider changing this up. - Holy rework, did a lot of changes to this part but it should be more consistent and sensible throughout now, same applies to the unanswered below
00:22:562 (1,2) - Feels like it should be swapped around too. 00:22:432 (4,1) - is a really short distance considering how strong 00:22:562 (1) - is, especially if we look at how you hyper to 00:22:692 (2) - which is the passive continuation of 00:22:562 (1) - .
00:23:211 (2) - I would suggest the same as 00:21:133 (2) - here, a 1/1 slider just doesn't feel right to me. - Listening to this closely this actually fits the vocal this time, it just starts with an sss sound that's a total b8.
00:24:250 (2) - ^ - I'll take my vocal emphasis to the grave, you'll never take it away from me!
00:31:393 (3) - Consider making this a 1/2 slider? 00:31:588 (4,1) - sounds pretty gaudy due to the small gap that you haven't really used anywhere else. 00:31:393 (3) - "ends" at 00:31:523 - so I don't think its such a bad idea, the triplet sounds quite natural. - I've added a slider here at 00:31:393 (3) - but ended it at 00:31:263 (2) - and now hypers to 00:31:653 (1) - which I think is a better fit to the song and an improvement to play. I didn't end it at 00:31:523 - to create a slight pause instead to better emphasise 00:31:653 (1) -
00:32:562 (4,5) - Swap these two around timeline wise? I think it sounds better, 00:32:562 - seems quite passive whilst 00:32:692 - starts vocally and is a downbeat. 00:33:081 (2) - and 00:34:120 (2) - are examples where you do something similar. - Yeah I think this was just me being lazy with putting notes down, mind you these sliders don't make droplets anyway so they're effecitvely no different to just notes but did it anyway (:
00:35:029 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is 1/3, there are 4 beats here and if you slow it down and play it through it fits perfectly. The section sounds really odd as it is now so I'd change it up for that. a 2-2 like you have going now (minus 00:35:289 (5) - ) fits nicely too. - Whaaat the fuck, you've blown my mind
00:53:209 (1,2,3,4) - I think that the hyper would be more fitting to go to 00:53:209 (1) - rather than 00:53:469 (3) - . Although it is the downbeat it doesn't seem strong enough to warrant it over 00:53:209 (1) - . - Mistakes were made over a year ago, sometimes I wish I just remapped this entirely fresh (:
00:53:729 (1,2) - Similar to above, hyper placement here doesn't seem as fitting as it could be. - Same as above, year ago me was a terrible person
01:16:196 (4) - Ending here seems pretty boring and anti-climactic. Try hyper to a note at the end? It sounds fitting enough to me. - Added a cheeky little hyper

[Platter]
Similar to Lotus' diff, check AIMod and wiggle those two objects to snap them properly. - Wiggled
00:14:899 (1) - Consider making this a 1/2 repeater? Its following the vocals right now but it doesn't feel the greatest, there is a pitch shift from the downbeat and strong instrumental so I'd consider it a justified change. - No change here, prefer to stick with following the vocals
00:19:055 (1) - This slider feels a tad too long, it doesn't really fit the vocal part and it covers a solid beat at 00:19:445 -. I'd knock it back about 1/1 and throw a 1/2 slider after it instead. - Yeah that slider is shit
00:26:718 (5,5) - Fancy throwing some direction changes here? No big distance increases but directional changes for the streams would work nicely with the hitounds and whatnot. - So this is the original stream I mapped a year ago, it was the first stream I mapped for this and I was like "yeah thats good enough". So I've redone it now, I went for slight distance increases over direction changes but it should work better with the hitsounds and be better overall
00:52:625 (4) - I'd drop this note out here in exchange for some movement towards 00:52:690 (1) - . The note isn't really needed in the platter, the triplet does the job well but the 5-plet causes 00:52:690 (1) - to lose so much emphasis that the song places upon it. - Just for you babe
00:54:768 (1) - Same as above here. - ^
01:07:755 (3) - Split to two circles, cheeky hyper to 01:08:014 - to create a nice ending maybe? Same application to rest of ending. - Consider it done
01:15:287 (1) - I'd map this out here, the spinner feels so clunky and out of place ontop of that instrumental. Also inconsistent with other diffs on the set. - Yeah didn't like the spinner here either, mapped it out cos im a mad lad

Updated Platter, Overdose and JBHyperion's Salad, other diffs still waiting.

Withered Lotus

105 posts

Joined November 2013

Withered Lotus 2016-12-07T20:49:41+00:00

Riari wrote:
[NiceName's Rain]
00:48:922 (4) - Fiddle with this, move it forward and back again since it's not snapped properly. I'm dumb, fixed.
Fix the other shite in AIMod too pls, thank.
00:04:687 (1,2) - These feel a bit odd, I personally thing that single notes or maybe even 1/2 sliders would fit better here. Maybe space them 1/8 rather than 1/12? I think it sounds a bit better. They were originally 1/8 and then I was asked to change them to 1/12 and personally I think they work better with 1/12.
00:07:952 (1) - Slider fits nicely until the end. Starting such a powerful section swap with a slider end feels really counter-productive. Maybe fade the slider out towards 00:09:364 - and start strong at 00:09:835 - ? Slider has same effect here but it doesn't strangle the section start. Yeah, I like this, done.
00:12:301 (2,3) - Hyper here seems a bit strange to me, 00:12:431 (3) - seems like such a dead note compared to 00:12:171 (1) - which is stacked. I'd suggest swapping this around as I feel the emphasis here has been jumbled up a bit. Yup, this H-dash was bad, changed this section around a bit.
00:21:262 (1) - 1/2 repeater here? You've done it in places like 00:20:743 (1) - and 00:16:197 (1) - so it would be pretty consistent. I'd suggest similar for the ones after too. Those 1/2 repeats are placed for the guitar, there is no guitar playing here.
00:31:132 (1) - Gap feels a bit odd after this, maybe two 1/2 sliders? It sounds pretty nice and bridges well. Yup, works pretty well, done.
00:32:171 - Pretty clear beat missed out here, simple circle bridges well between the two sliders on either side. Purposefully going to undermap this bit because this beat isn't consistent throughout the next section of the map so for the sake of consistency and simplicity for the player, I'm going to leave it out, especially since mapping the strong guitar notes is the main focus of this section.
00:33:210 - Same as above here, happens a few more times after this and I'd suggest filling it in. This note is less distinct than the previous, and for the same reason as above, I'm going to miss this one out.
00:48:014 - Even if you don't fill in the ones above, I highly suggest this one due to it being kiai. Alright yeah I'll map this one.
00:52:364 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - This is way too long. Dropping notes at previous points seems to have been to hold combo back for the overdose and this makes that completely useless. This stream should stop at 00:52:689 - latest, it goes back to a simple 1/2 after this so I'd mix it back up like you have been doing previously. I disagree with this, there's a clear rapid drum beat in the music, which is also consistent along with the vocals up to where the current stream ends. I did however, remake this trash stream.
00:54:442 (4,6) - Also pretty unnececcary, wouldn't keep these here in the Rain. I feel this just sounds awkward as 1/2 notes, it sounds better with the burst, which is there for the drums like before.
00:54:637 (1,2,3) - Really conservative here, even though we are still in the kiai the red ticks are missing beats inside and between the sliders. Combo shouldn't be a problem with previous suggestions so I'd work this around. Yeah, I'm not really sure why I missed these red ticks out, mapped them.
01:16:066 (3,4,5) - feels pretty lame to walk, especially 01:16:455 (5) - maybe add some distance for a dash to final note or a direction change? ehh, I think it's fine, I don't see any reason to make the last notes something gimmicky.

Thanks for the mod, made some slight tweaks of my own at the end.

osu file format v14

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Title:When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
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Creator:Sorcerer
Version:Lotus' Rain
Source:RWBY
Tags:Withered Lotus JBHyperion - Magic Bomb - Volume Season 3 Opening
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Sorceress

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Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-12-10T00:36:27+00:00

Updated Lotus' Rain and its timing. Rumour has it Magical Bombzo will apply real soon aswell :^)

MBomb

MBomb 2016-12-10T18:22:46+00:00

When Santa Falls (feat. The Chimney)

The cup sucks, so instead of modding it myself, I'm just going to reply to the unapplied mod.

Riari wrote:
Ho! Ho! Ho! Give me Kds!
I'm your santa for this week friendo and will be pointing out useless stuff on your map of beats.

[-Magic Benzy-'s Cup]
00:14:899 (1) - sounds better at 00:15:029 - to me. Extra random density here doesn't feel warranted or important to the song. Moving it also adds more emphasis to the vocals. - I prefer it for the strong guitar note on this.
00:25:289 (1) - ^ - Same there.
00:31:263 - Gap here is good but I feel like adding a note here carries on well. It's quite audable and leaves a good gap until 00:31:653 (1) - . - Sure.
00:34:770 (4) - Repeater here? Works really really well with the roll it lands on at 00:35:159 - and still works well as a curve. - Done.

As a favour, I even applied all these mods for him! Here's the .osu, you can thank me later. Or now, either works honestly.

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: RWBY Volume 3 - Opening.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43210
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1.1

[Metadata]
Title:When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
TitleUnicode:When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
Artist:Jeff Williams
ArtistUnicode:Jeff Williams
Creator:Sorcerer
Version:MBomb's Cup
Source:RWBY
Tags:Withered Lotus JBHyperion - Magic Bomb - Volume Season 3 Opening
BeatmapID:1118158
BeatmapSetID:366298

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3
CircleSize:2.5
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:6
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"witbg.png",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Ok now onto actually modding because the rest of the difficulties aren't too bad.

[Salad]

00:02:408 (1) - Should be increased if it's meant to be a dash, but I don't like the idea of dashes in this calm of an intro, so I'd rather just let this distance get reduced to x:256.
00:07:952 (4) - I think a slightly higher distance on this would help emphasise the strength on this note and the end of the section better. Do x:152?
00:14:899 (1) - Now, it's a bit weird with 1/2 dashes, especially at this bpm, but I'm just going to point out you don't need to dash for this. It could be fine, movement might be too awkward to do if you force a dash, but if you think you could manage it without making the movement awkward, I would highly suggest you do it. This is the same for most 1/2 dashes in this song.
00:18:666 (4,1) - Move this section to x:112 to force the dash to 4?
00:23:341 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Movement is all pretty linear flow here, making it feel kinda repetitive right now. A good idea to break this up slightly would be to ctrl+H 00:24:640 (4) - and move it back to x:244.
00:26:198 (3,4) - Honestly higher snaps like moving this section to x:288 feel more comfortable to me at this section, because the curve movement of the slider can lead to some undermovement right now if the salad player doesn't try a stop-start motion.
00:29:575 (1) - This type of slider feels far too awkward for a salad, please just do a normal curve, or even an antiflow backforth instead.
00:34:770 (2,3) - Something like x:196 would work pretty nicely on this section to me, because the previous movement being a dash followed by a very small movement seems strange to me, and the pitch change actually sounds like it deserves emphasis to me, along with the guitar.
00:36:847 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Move this section to x:116 for a dash to 2 here.
00:42:041 (3) - A higher distance to this would feel nice, and a dash to 4 would also feel great in my mind, especially considering the finish sound there. Try moving this to x:328 maybe, and then 00:43:080 (4) - on x:92?
00:49:183 (3) - Higher distance for more emphasis on the vocal, maybe try x:160.
00:58:534 (1) - x:116 to add a dash to this.
01:06:716 (6) - x:260 would be nice, both for a higher distance to signify the end of the section, and to force a dash to 1.
01:08:014 (3) - Move it to x:184 to force a dash please.
01:09:053 (1) - Missed clap on the head.
01:10:092 (2) - x:216 for a dash.
01:11:131 (1,2) - x:156 on this section to make dashes.
01:14:248 (2) - And last one, x:384 to make a dash here.

[Platter]

00:02:408 (1) - You really sure about adding a HDash this early in a platter? I think this section is relatively calm, and not having any HDashes here would actually fit the song better.
00:03:975 (4) - x:144 to make the backforth slightly easier, and also to show the pitch change.
00:05:852 (1) - Slightly higher distance like x:416 would feel nice to me, distances feel a bit too short considering the timeline distance between them.
00:10:744 (1) - I actually think it'd be really nice to change stuff around and have a HDash to this, both for the guitar and vocal emphasis here, the note is very strong and definitely suiting of one.
00:18:406 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this section could do with more emphasis considering the guitar and vocal patterns here. 00:18:406 (1,2) - could be moved to x:224, to make the dash stronger here, considering this is the start of the strong vocal, and then move 3 to x:72, making a HDash to that, considering it's the strongest vocal of this part, move 4 to x:112 and 5 to x:184, making a nice curve movement after the HDash whilst still making flow afterwards the same.
00:19:835 (2) - Feels a bit close to the rest of the triple, try x:360 instead.
00:30:614 (4) - Seems a bit too close to the other slider right now, move it back to like x:192, and the movement feels a lot more comfortable.
00:35:809 (1) - I think it'd be best to make it a little more curve to the right, because droplet flow after the HDash is a bit off how it is now.
00:51:781 (2) - Whilst I understand the idea here, the stop-start motion needed here is kinda awkward, so a more consistent distancing on this type of pattern would feel a lot better flow-wise, so maybe move it to x:128.
00:58:534 (2,3,4) - x:152 to give more emphasis to these dashes?
00:59:443 (1,2,3,4) - Considering the backforth motion straight after in the opposite direction, distance to 1 may be a bit too strong, try x:96 on this section instead for more comfortable distancing.
01:04:898 (1) - I'd say don't do a HDash to this slider, to give a more progressive feel, as the vocals get louder with each word, you could have just a normal dash to this slider and then a HDash to the next one for emphasis on that progression. Try a slider like this.
01:09:053 (1) - Missing a clap.

[Rain]

00:00:698 (1) - Maybe a bit too strong of a distance to this right now, maybe reduce to x:384.
00:04:687 (1,2) - Reduce a tiny bit, can be a bit difficult to catch after the last note, especially if you don't expect it, as it is now. x:352 works well.
00:14:640 (4) - x:80 would be nice for more of a curve movement.
00:15:029 (2) - Feels a bit far out from the rest of the triple, x:464 would feel better.
00:16:977 (3) - Curve a bit more to the left for droplet flow?
00:23:731 (4,5) - Considering the stop-start on dash here, a smaller distance would be a lot better flow-wise, just try x:136.
00:27:886 (2) - Bit strong for a back-forth dash, try x:184 instead to make it slightly more comfortable.
00:28:406 (4) - This one even more so considering the antiflow, x:424 please.
00:28:925 (6) - And again here, x:176.
00:35:679 (10) - Kinda close to an edge dash right now, try just doing x:336 instead.
00:36:198 (2,3) - Strong distancing both to and from this right now, a reduction to x:320 would be great.
00:37:627 (6) - I think x:256 feels better on this to keep the momentum from the HDash into the next note.
00:39:315 (5) - x:240 would feel better to this.
00:48:404 (2) - An edge dash just after a HDash in the opposite direction basically, this is unrankable. Try ctrl+g on it instead.
00:57:365 (3) - Distances before and after could do with a reduction, x:408 would feel nice to me.
00:58:144 (2) - Try using x:272, this strong of a distance after a HDash could be troublesome.
01:00:612 (1) - x:376 feels better on this as a reduction of a HDash strength and also making the next note more comfortable to catch.
01:06:976 (1) - Curve it so it's more vertical at the start please.
01:09:053 (1) - Add a clap onto the head.

I love this rain so much, honestly you're probably the best rain mapper right now in my opinion.

[Overdose]

00:18:536 (2) - x:32, a weaker triple would work nicer here considering the HDash usage, in my opinion.
00:19:705 (3) - I think moving this to x:320 would be nice, to make the antiflow movement easier and also to make the HDash strength slightly weaker for the antiflow.
00:34:120 (2) - I'm honestly not really sure why, but just making this a triple with 3 and moving it to x:192 feels nicer to me.
00:47:106 (2) - Kinda difficult to hit right now considering the antiflow, reduce it to like x:168 please.
00:54:898 (2) - Such a short distance after the 1/4 HDash can be kinda difficult to hit, I'd say increase it to like x:128.
00:58:794 (3) - Moving this to x:304 makes the backforth movement feel a lot more comfortable to hit in my eyes.
01:00:742 (2) - Feels a bit far out from the triple, try x:224 instead.
01:03:859 (3,4) - Kinda too far right now for a non-HDash movement, reduce it to like x:392.
01:06:976 (1) - Curve more to the right for droplet flow.
01:09:053 (1) - Clap on head.
01:14:768 (2) - I'd say a HDash to this would fit fine here.

Love this overdose too <3

Alright, done.

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2016-12-11T13:40:08+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
When Santa Falls (feat. The Chimney)

[Salad]

00:02:408 (1) - Should be increased if it's meant to be a dash, but I don't like the idea of dashes in this calm of an intro, so I'd rather just let this distance get reduced to x:256. Reduced
00:07:952 (4) - I think a slightly higher distance on this would help emphasise the strength on this note and the end of the section better. Do x:152? Done
00:14:899 (1) - Now, it's a bit weird with 1/2 dashes, especially at this bpm, but I'm just going to point out you don't need to dash for this. It could be fine, movement might be too awkward to do if you force a dash, but if you think you could manage it without making the movement awkward, I would highly suggest you do it. This is the same for most 1/2 dashes in this song. Just fucking removing all the 1/2 dashes in the high BPM sections why did I even agree to map a Salad fuck Sorcerer
00:18:666 (4,1) - Move this section to x:112 to force the dash to 4? Done differently
00:23:341 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Movement is all pretty linear flow here, making it feel kinda repetitive right now. A good idea to break this up slightly would be to ctrl+H 00:24:640 (4) - and move it back to x:244. Done
00:26:198 (3,4) - Honestly higher snaps like moving this section to x:288 feel more comfortable to me at this section, because the curve movement of the slider can lead to some undermovement right now if the salad player doesn't try a stop-start motion. You meant higher spacing I presume? lol
00:29:575 (1) - This type of slider feels far too awkward for a salad, please just do a normal curve, or even an antiflow backforth instead. Ya fixed cus this was ugly af yo
00:34:770 (2,3) - Something like x:196 would work pretty nicely on this section to me, because the previous movement being a dash followed by a very small movement seems strange to me, and the pitch change actually sounds like it deserves emphasis to me, along with the guitar. Done, but also changed some other spacings around here too
00:36:847 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Move this section to x:116 for a dash to 2 here. Fixed with the above
00:42:041 (3) - A higher distance to this would feel nice, and a dash to 4 would also feel great in my mind, especially considering the finish sound there. Try moving this to x:328 maybe, and then 00:43:080 (4) - on x:92? Fixed both
00:49:183 (3) - Higher distance for more emphasis on the vocal, maybe try x:160. Added dash
00:58:534 (1) - x:116 to add a dash to this. Already felt this was a dash but sure why the fuck not add more distance
01:06:716 (6) - x:260 would be nice, both for a higher distance to signify the end of the section, and to force a dash to 1. Yup
01:08:014 (3) - Move it to x:184 to force a dash please. Again
01:09:053 (1) - Missed clap on the head. Riari's hitsounds are garbage lol
01:10:092 (2) - x:216 for a dash. And anotha one
01:11:131 (1,2) - x:156 on this section to make dashes. Let's go round again
01:14:248 (2) - And last one, x:384 to make a dash here. Killed 'im

Alright, done.

Salads can die in a fire

Thanks for the ~~suffering~~ suggestions

Salad

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Withered Lotus

105 posts

Joined November 2013

Withered Lotus 2016-12-16T00:34:52+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
[Rain]

00:00:698 (1) - Maybe a bit too strong of a distance to this right now, maybe reduce to x:384. Reduced to 10 grid spaces like the rest.
00:04:687 (1,2) - Reduce a tiny bit, can be a bit difficult to catch after the last note, especially if you don't expect it, as it is now. x:352 works well. Yup, good point, done.
00:14:640 (4) - x:80 would be nice for more of a curve movement. I prefer the more angular pattern here, it looks more readable and aesthetic in my opinion.
00:15:029 (2) - Feels a bit far out from the rest of the triple, x:464 would feel better. Done, also moved the 4th note in for consistent distancing.
00:16:977 (3) - Curve a bit more to the left for droplet flow? I suppose.
00:23:731 (4,5) - Considering the stop-start on dash here, a smaller distance would be a lot better flow-wise, just try x:136. Sure, changed.
00:27:886 (2) - Bit strong for a back-forth dash, try x:184 instead to make it slightly more comfortable. True, done.
00:28:406 (4) - This one even more so considering the antiflow, x:424 please. Done.
00:28:925 (6) - And again here, x:176. Done.
00:35:679 (10) - Kinda close to an edge dash right now, try just doing x:336 instead. Wow, I'm really evil, changed. I reduced the distance of all 3 1/2 notes just for distance consistency.
00:36:198 (2,3) - Strong distancing both to and from this right now, a reduction to x:320 would be great. tfw you go on a bit before looking at the next mod points and already do what they ask you to do FeelsGoodMan.
00:37:627 (6) - I think x:256 feels better on this to keep the momentum from the HDash into the next note. Wow, I did it again, I must be a wizard or something.
00:39:315 (5) - x:240 would feel better to this. oh my god I'm 3 for 3 look at me go, it's like I crawled into your mindset... dangerous, if I'm honest.
00:48:404 (2) - An edge dash just after a HDash in the opposite direction basically, this is unrankable. Try ctrl+g on it instead. Done, and reduced distance a touch.
00:57:365 (3) - Distances before and after could do with a reduction, x:408 would feel nice to me. Done.
00:58:144 (2) - Try using x:272, this strong of a distance after a HDash could be troublesome. I moved these notes after some remap but I reduced the distance between them.
01:00:612 (1) - x:376 feels better on this as a reduction of a HDash strength and also making the next note more comfortable to catch. Done.
01:06:976 (1) - Curve it so it's more vertical at the start please. I guess... feels kinda redundant though considering the SV.
01:09:053 (1) - Add a clap onto the head.Done.

I love this rain so much, honestly you're probably the best rain mapper right now in my opinion. That's a pretty bold statement to make, especially considering how few I've mapped but thanks, I appreciate it.

I feel like there's too many points that I've followed through with and that I should actually decline more of these points, but alas, it's not to be.

Thanks for the mod, really helpful. I reduced distance in various other places myself that I felt were to large that weren't specified. I also made some slight mapping changes in various places too which I feel play a lot better, especially towards the end.

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2016-12-16T20:05:43+00:00

This a mod response in this box xd

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
When Santa Falls (feat. The Chimney)

[Platter]

00:02:408 (1) - You really sure about adding a HDash this early in a platter? I think this section is relatively calm, and not having any HDashes here would actually fit the song better. - Yeah that hyper is a bit of a relic of the past I forgot to remove
00:03:975 (4) - x:144 to make the backforth slightly easier, and also to show the pitch change. - Sure thing babe
00:05:852 (1) - Slightly higher distance like x:416 would feel nice to me, distances feel a bit too short considering the timeline distance between them. - You're the boss, boss
00:10:744 (1) - I actually think it'd be really nice to change stuff around and have a HDash to this, both for the guitar and vocal emphasis here, the note is very strong and definitely suiting of one. - Consider it done
00:18:406 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think this section could do with more emphasis considering the guitar and vocal patterns here. 00:18:406 (1,2) - could be moved to x:224, to make the dash stronger here, considering this is the start of the strong vocal, and then move 3 to x:72, making a HDash to that, considering it's the strongest vocal of this part, move 4 to x:112 and 5 to x:184, making a nice curve movement after the HDash whilst still making flow afterwards the same. - Woah there, anti-flow hypers in a 231bpm platter, no thank you sir. Gone with a strong dash to 00:18:666 (3) - instead and arranged 00:18:666 (3,4,5) - in a sick flowing tripple
00:19:835 (2) - Feels a bit close to the rest of the triple, try x:360 instead. - x:352 because that's the life I'm about
00:30:614 (4) - Seems a bit too close to the other slider right now, move it back to like x:192, and the movement feels a lot more comfortable. - ye xd
00:35:809 (1) - I think it'd be best to make it a little more curve to the right, because droplet flow after the HDash is a bit off how it is now. - Consider this donezo
00:51:781 (2) - Whilst I understand the idea here, the stop-start motion needed here is kinda awkward, so a more consistent distancing on this type of pattern would feel a lot better flow-wise, so maybe move it to x:128. - lol wasn't going for stop-start, this was just poorly done but yeah, appliedarino
00:58:534 (2,3,4) - x:152 to give more emphasis to these dashes? - My longest Ye Boi ever (10 hours)
00:59:443 (1,2,3,4) - Considering the backforth motion straight after in the opposite direction, distance to 1 may be a bit too strong, try x:96 on this section instead for more comfortable distancing. - I'm of the opinion that Platter players should git gud or die tryin, however my opinion is worthless so... applied
01:04:898 (1) - I'd say don't do a HDash to this slider, to give a more progressive feel, as the vocals get louder with each word, you could have just a normal dash to this slider and then a HDash to the next one for emphasis on that progression. Try a slider like this. - Oooh I like this, ye boiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
01:09:053 (1) - Missing a clap. - Literally blame Riari :^)

[Overdose]

00:18:536 (2) - x:32, a weaker triple would work nicer here considering the HDash usage, in my opinion. - I'll meet you halfway at x:24
00:19:705 (3) - I think moving this to x:320 would be nice, to make the antiflow movement easier and also to make the HDash strength slightly weaker for the antiflow. - Ye boiii
00:34:120 (2) - I'm honestly not really sure why, but just making this a triple with 3 and moving it to x:192 feels nicer to me. - Yeah, prefer x:200 though
00:47:106 (2) - Kinda difficult to hit right now considering the antiflow, reduce it to like x:168 please. - x:160 I CANNOT BE STOPPED
00:54:898 (2) - Such a short distance after the 1/4 HDash can be kinda difficult to hit, I'd say increase it to like x:128. - lol, did some tweaks before applying this mod and did exactly that
00:58:794 (3) - Moving this to x:304 makes the backforth movement feel a lot more comfortable to hit in my eyes. - You have beautiful eyes
01:00:742 (2) - Feels a bit far out from the triple, try x:224 instead. - Bingo
01:03:859 (3,4) - Kinda too far right now for a non-HDash movement, reduce it to like x:392. - Yahtzee
01:06:976 (1) - Curve more to the right for droplet flow. - Adjusted that curve baby
01:09:053 (1) - Clap on head. - CLIP CLAP CLIP CLAP
01:14:768 (2) - I'd say a HDash to this would fit fine here. - Ye boiiiiii

Love this overdose too <3 - It's absolute garbage, pls rank <3

Alright, done.

Sick mod frendo <3 All diffs updated. I'll be away soon and won't be back till the 6th of January so this will be dead in the meanwhile :slight_frown:

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-01-26T00:18:36+00:00

m4m with the cheeky wizard

MBomb's Cup

00:12:432 (5,1) - 00:16:588 (4,1) - etc. Personally not a fan of these 1/2 slider to circle patterns, they look a bit jagged with the current spacing, perhaps consider making the sliders more vertical. I guess it works for some examples like 00:18:666 (5,1) - since the vocal is really harsh there, so your call really
00:49:183 (3,4,1) - Music doesn't really suggest an antiflow pattern here to me since the vocal is somewhat smooth. I'd Ctrl+H 00:50:093 (4,1,2) - and respace for a more natural flow
00:56:456 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Since you decided to follow 1/2 vocals here when the main hitsounding was done to drum rhythm and copied from the other diffs, this section has no hitsounds. Better throw some in there so this feels more dynamic

Hyperion's Salad

delet this

Platter

00:12:562 (2,3,1) - Shouldn't jump be to (1) for the vocal instead of (3)? Same could be said for 00:13:990 (3,4,1) - etc.
00:14:899 (1) - Does this need a NC all to itself?
00:21:133 (4,1) - Expected a dash at least for the strong vocal here
00:23:211 (4,1,2) - Dash parity seems mixed up, not sure why the downbeat downbeat guitar+vocal with NC doesn't have the dash here. Either way, 00:23:731 (4,1) - is quite a harsh antiflow at this BPM which you should consider smoothening out
00:24:120 (2,3,1) - Looks like a super ugly curve, though I don't think it's supposed to be one. Either make this a smooth curve, or tell it to stop posing as one
00:26:458 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sounds better to me if you divided this up into two patterns of 6 than 4/8. I'd also consider bringing the curves in a little tighter, it's a bit expansive atm and easy for a player at this skill level to drop a bunch of notes
00:35:202 (3) - This clap sounds really odd on the 1/3 here, I'd stick to just the hitnormal personally
00:39:315 (2,1) - Seems kind of anticlimactic doesn't it? Perhaps start the spinner 1/2 later and add two circles at 00:39:835 - and +1/2 with a hyperdash between them
00:47:885 (3,1,2) - Swap NC to (2) to follow your previous patterns I guess? Also 00:48:144 (2,3,4,5) - is quite a tricky dash after the previous hyper, so maybe reduce this one a touch for more leniency
00:52:041 (4,1,2,1) - Not a fan of this little antiflow junk into hyper, it's a little too fiddly for this BPM and difficulty imo. Try a natural flow instead
01:02:950 (4,1) - Why hyper to this one but not anything before it? Seems kind of odd

Lotus' Rain

00:15:679 (2,3,4) - Antiflow is quite harsh after the hyper, I'd move (3) right slightly to make this more lenient
00:21:133 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - The variance in hyper strength is really confusing considering the music isn't changing drastically. Combined with the antiflowing nature, these sliders are very easy to overshoot at present. Consider balancing the strengths out a little more for the sake of consistency
00:30:094 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Holy shit VOiCE is that you I haven't seen this pattern in forever
00:34:120 (3,1,2) - (1) is much too far considering that previous hyper and that (2) has the strong vocal and clap hitsound. I'd move (1) a ways to the left
00:44:248 (3,1) - Was expecting a hyper here, but maybe just me. Feels like the start of the kiai is lacking some oomph and this might give it a kick start
00:52:041 (1) - Would definitely have expected a hyper to that strong vocal on the red tick. Something I played around with and you might want to try out for yourself is http://puu.sh/tAcCh/22b99cc851.jpg
00:53:599 (5,6) - Wasn't expecting this lack of direction change based on your previous stream patterns. Perhaps consider flipping some of this around so it present less of a flowstop

Overdose

00:00:698 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps make these a wiggle like 00:01:838 (1,2,3,4) - for a little variety, lots of back and forth atm
00:26:977 (5,6,7,8) - These seem quite weak to me, and I know you want that hyper wings pattern, but I think hyper, some twisting curve bit on 00:26:847 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - when the drums are weak, and then back into the hyper chains when the drums get strong again would be more interesting here
00:31:133 (1,2,3) - Shouldn't hyper be to (3) for the clap like in your previous patterns?
00:35:202 (3) - Same as in Platrter, this clap is real dodgy yo, I'd axe him
00:39:964 (1) - And again same as in Platter, this feels really anticlimactic in regards to your buildup before the kiai. You could squeeze a couple of notes and a hyper in here before the spinner fore more pizzaz
00:43:989 (1,2,3,1) - Firstly it's surprising to have the first note after the spinner so far to the right, and secondly the hyper to (2) would fit much better to 00:44:378 (1) - for that clap hitsound imo
01:13:988 (3) - Remove clap from tail, the drum clap on 01:14:248 (4) - is enough emphasis here
01:16:326 (5) - Add finish for the final sound? There's a nice crash cymbal there for you to emphasise

Hope this helps! (:

Withered Lotus

105 posts

Joined November 2013

Withered Lotus 2017-01-30T16:10:18+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Lotus' Rain
00:15:679 (2,3,4) - Antiflow is quite harsh after the hyper, I'd move (3) right slightly to make this more lenient I assume you mean left, and sure, made the spacing slightly smaller.
00:21:133 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - The variance in hyper strength is really confusing considering the music isn't changing drastically. Combined with the antiflowing nature, these sliders are very easy to overshoot at present. Consider balancing the strengths out a little more for the sake of consistency Done.
00:30:094 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Holy shit VOiCE is that you I haven't seen this pattern in forever Make ctb mapping great again :^)
00:34:120 (3,1,2) - (1) is much too far considering that previous hyper and that (2) has the strong vocal and clap hitsound. I'd move (1) a ways to the left Done.
00:44:248 (3,1) - Was expecting a hyper here, but maybe just me. Feels like the start of the kiai is lacking some oomph and this might give it a kick start I like your style man, real phresh. Done.
00:52:041 (1) - Would definitely have expected a hyper to that strong vocal on the red tick. Something I played around with and you might want to try out for yourself is http://puu.sh/tAcCh/22b99cc851.jpg hmm, I'm not sure I'd agree calling this a strong vocal so I wouldn't say it warrants a H-dash, a strong vocal on this song would be something like on 00:46:067 (4) - imo, not going to change this.
00:53:599 (5,6) - Wasn't expecting this lack of direction change based on your previous stream patterns. Perhaps consider flipping some of this around so it present less of a flowstop Yeah, even I had problems with this flow stop, changed.

Thanks for the moderino.

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Title:When It Falls (feat. Casey Lee Williams)
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Artist:Jeff Williams
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Creator:Sorcerer
Version:Lotus' Rain
Source:RWBY
Tags:Withered Lotus JBHyperion - Magic Bomb - Volume Season 3 Opening
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MBomb

MBomb 2017-02-09T20:58:20+00:00

by popular demand

JBHyperion wrote:
m4m with the cheeky wizard

MBomb's Cup
00:12:432 (5,1) - 00:16:588 (4,1) - etc. Personally not a fan of these 1/2 slider to circle patterns, they look a bit jagged with the current spacing, perhaps consider making the sliders more vertical. I guess it works for some examples like 00:18:666 (5,1) - since the vocal is really harsh there, so your call really - The guitar is pretty strong on each of these downbeats, so I think the higher distance is justified.
00:49:183 (3,4,1) - Music doesn't really suggest an antiflow pattern here to me since the vocal is somewhat smooth. I'd Ctrl+H 00:50:093 (4,1,2) - and respace for a more natural flow - This isn't really antiflow, I'd say it's actually easier to manage a direction change here than to keep going to the left for a newer player, so I think it feels more comfortable as it is.
00:56:456 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Since you decided to follow 1/2 vocals here when the main hitsounding was done to drum rhythm and copied from the other diffs, this section has no hitsounds. Better throw some in there so this feels more dynamic - Soft whistle spam it is.

Thanks for the mod!

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Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Sorceress 2017-02-11T00:26:03+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
m4m with the cheeky wizard

Platter
00:12:562 (2,3,1) - Shouldn't jump be to (1) for the vocal instead of (3)? Same could be said for 00:13:990 (3,4,1) - etc.
00:14:899 (1) - Does this need a NC all to itself?
00:21:133 (4,1) - Expected a dash at least for the strong vocal here
00:23:211 (4,1,2) - Dash parity seems mixed up, not sure why the downbeat downbeat guitar+vocal with NC doesn't have the dash here. Either way, 00:23:731 (4,1) - is quite a harsh antiflow at this BPM which you should consider smoothening out
00:24:120 (2,3,1) - Looks like a super ugly curve, though I don't think it's supposed to be one. Either make this a smooth curve, or tell it to stop posing as one
00:26:458 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sounds better to me if you divided this up into two patterns of 6 than 4/8. I'd also consider bringing the curves in a little tighter, it's a bit expansive atm and easy for a player at this skill level to drop a bunch of notes
00:35:202 (3) - This clap sounds really odd on the 1/3 here, I'd stick to just the hitnormal personally
00:39:315 (2,1) - Seems kind of anticlimactic doesn't it? Perhaps start the spinner 1/2 later and add two circles at 00:39:835 - and +1/2 with a hyperdash between them
00:47:885 (3,1,2) - Swap NC to (2) to follow your previous patterns I guess? Also 00:48:144 (2,3,4,5) - is quite a tricky dash after the previous hyper, so maybe reduce this one a touch for more leniency
00:52:041 (4,1,2,1) - Not a fan of this little antiflow junk into hyper, it's a little too fiddly for this BPM and difficulty imo. Try a natural flow instead
01:02:950 (4,1) - Why hyper to this one but not anything before it? Seems kind of odd

Overdose
00:00:698 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps make these a wiggle like 00:01:838 (1,2,3,4) - for a little variety, lots of back and forth atm - Should be a little improved
00:26:977 (5,6,7,8) - These seem quite weak to me, and I know you want that hyper wings pattern, but I think hyper, some twisting curve bit on 00:26:847 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - when the drums are weak, and then back into the hyper chains when the drums get strong again would be more interesting here - Nice, love it
00:31:133 (1,2,3) - Shouldn't hyper be to (3) for the clap like in your previous patterns? - No? There's a lot of claps around here with no hyper to them, 00:31:393 (3) - seems quite weak on it's own so maybe there just shouldn't be a clap here. Hitsounding is my one of my many many weaknesses (:
00:35:202 (3) - Same as in Platrter, this clap is real dodgy yo, I'd axe him - Ah yeah, that's me not fixing hitsounds when this was changed to 1/3
00:39:964 (1) - And again same as in Platter, this feels really anticlimactic in regards to your buildup before the kiai. You could squeeze a couple of notes and a hyper in here before the spinner fore more pizzaz - Mmm I'm not really seeing it, or hearing it in this case I guess
00:43:989 (1,2,3,1) - Firstly it's surprising to have the first note after the spinner so far to the right, and secondly the hyper to (2) would fit much better to 00:44:378 (1) - for that clap hitsound imo - Consider it done, just for you babe
01:13:988 (3) - Remove clap from tail, the drum clap on 01:14:248 (4) - is enough emphasis here - Yeah I think this is me being bad again when making changes and breaking hitsounds
01:16:326 (5) - Add finish for the final sound? There's a nice crash cymbal there for you to emphasise - Ye sik
Hope this helps! (:

Thanks for the mod dude, updated all but platter.

I'll update this post with a platter response soon, I think I need a drink before I can look at that diff for any prolonged period of time

Withered Lotus

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Withered Lotus 2017-02-17T03:29:41+00:00

That's a long drink you're having there friendo, need some help with that?

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2017-02-17T03:47:50+00:00

I need all the helps

EDIT:

JBHyperion wrote:
Platter
00:12:562 (2,3,1) - Shouldn't jump be to (1) for the vocal instead of (3)? Same could be said for 00:13:990 (3,4,1) - etc. - Consider it done my friend
00:14:899 (1) - Does this need a NC all to itself? - Well it asked for one for christmas so I thought I'd be nice but fine, this one is on you though
00:21:133 (4,1) - Expected a dash at least for the strong vocal here - Yes sir
00:23:211 (4,1,2) - Dash parity seems mixed up, not sure why the downbeat downbeat guitar+vocal with NC doesn't have the dash here. Either way, 00:23:731 (4,1) - is quite a harsh antiflow at this BPM which you should consider smoothening out - Reworked this part, hopefully for the best
00:24:120 (2,3,1) - Looks like a super ugly curve, though I don't think it's supposed to be one. Either make this a smooth curve, or tell it to stop posing as one - Also reworked somewhat
00:26:458 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sounds better to me if you divided this up into two patterns of 6 than 4/8. I'd also consider bringing the curves in a little tighter, it's a bit expansive atm and easy for a player at this skill level to drop a bunch of notes - Platter level players continue to disgust me, they better get good at 231bpm streams soon or I'm gonna hurt someone
00:35:202 (3) - This clap sounds really odd on the 1/3 here, I'd stick to just the hitnormal personally - My fault, whoops xd
00:39:315 (2,1) - Seems kind of anticlimactic doesn't it? Perhaps start the spinner 1/2 later and add two circles at 00:39:835 - and +1/2 with a hyperdash between them xd lol fukken rek those noobs try do good spin after hyper haha rush b
00:47:885 (3,1,2) - Swap NC to (2) to follow your previous patterns I guess? Also 00:48:144 (2,3,4,5) - is quite a tricky dash after the previous hyper, so maybe reduce this one a touch for more leniency - You're the boss bossman
00:52:041 (4,1,2,1) - Not a fan of this little antiflow junk into hyper, it's a little too fiddly for this BPM and difficulty imo. Try a natural flow instead -I'm gonna try a natural yoghurt after this, so little room to move stuff about but should be easier now
01:02:950 (4,1) - Why hyper to this one but not anything before it? Seems kind of odd - Yeah I intentionally made this odd as a shoutout to the Oddworld series, I also made the map shit as a shoutout to the farts in those games

Thanks so much for the mod, this platter was a mistake and I'm sorry for making you share in the suffering.

Updated all

EDIT2:

EDIT 25/06/2017 - Remapped the Overdose because 2 year old difficulties are bad, platter remap soon tm
EDIT 10/07/2017 - Remapped the Platter

Withered Lotus

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Withered Lotus 2017-08-01T01:05:29+00:00

Hi

MBomb's Cup

> 00:00:129 (1) - 00:02:408 (1) - 00:03:975 (4) - I think there should be a hitsound on these notes for the piano key.
> 00:12:432 (5,1,2,3) - I find this series of notes a bit odd in that there's a 1/2 to 3/2 to 1/1 gap, perhaps you should replace 00:12:822 (1,2) - with a slider to fit the vocal and make the timeline more coherent.
> 00:13:990 (4,5,1,2) - Again this series of notes seems a bit incoherent to me. I don't think it's important to follow the drum on the red tick in the cup since it's incredibly subtle. I'd suggest maybe making 00:13:990 (4) - a 1/1 slider followed but another 1/1 slider (which would replace 00:14:770 (5) - ) and moving 00:14:899 (1) - to the following white tick for the guitar. This would make the timeline cleaner and the map easier to follow for new players.
> 00:16:588 (4,1) - Technically, the guitar here isn't even on the red tick, it's actually on the blue tick, which is incredibly weird (just guitar things) in terms of the flow of the map. I'd suggest just replacing this with a slider and following the drums instead. Maybe move (1) where (4) starts and move (4) forward to the white tick it ends on.
> 00:24:380 (3,4,1,2) - Like before, strange order on the timeline, perhaps just do like before.
> 00:30:614 (4,5) - I think you should map the guitar here rather than the drums since it's the most noticable instrument here and the drums in this section aren't consistent. I'd suggest shortening 00:30:614 (4) - to a 1/1 and repeating it once and move 00:31:263 (5) - forward to the following white tick instead.
> 00:59:573 (2) - Not sure if this might be to much of a harsh anti-flow in a cup, especially after the previous 3 repeating sliders that require a bit of movement.

That's all I got, sorry you had to map a cup, this song seems like a nightmare to map a cup for.

JBHyperion's Salad

> 00:18:146 (3,4) - I think this jump might be a bit to much for a salad considering it's a tight jump into anti-flow. Perhaps shorten it a tad?
> 00:51:911 (5,1) - Perhaps just a tad bit to tight of a jump, perhaps shorter it a touch.
> 00:25:419 (1,2) - I would prefer if you swapped these around to follow the guitar better.
> The first half of the kiai is a bit inconsistent, there are parts where it is mapped every 1/2 to accomodate all the drums, and then there are parts where there are no notes on the drums/cymbals like on 00:47:625 (6,1,2) - where there are distinct notes in the middle of all the sliders. I would suggest going over the first half of the kiai and covering more of these drums etc.
> 01:15:287 (1) - I don't think I agree having a spinner here, it's not consistent with the other difficulties and generally I would prefer if the guitar was mapped instead or atleast end the spinner on the last guitar note rather than a dead tick with no sound.

Platter

> 00:00:129 (1) - 00:02:408 (1) - 00:03:975 (4) - should have hitsounds on them for the piano.
> 00:12:432 (3,1) - Make this a H-dash or make the jump a little bit shorter.
> 00:12:822 (1,2,3,4) - A bit of a strange sequence of notes with the 1/2 slider and then the single hitcircle between the longer sliders. Perhaps delete 00:13:211 (2) -, extend 00:12:822 (1) - to the white tick and add a hitcircle on the red tick instead.
> 00:31:003 (1) - I don't think this needs to be a repeat slider, just make it a 1/1 since there's no note on the white tick.
> 00:31:393 (2) - I think you should just delete this note, the drum is to subtle to be worth mapping.
> 00:43:989 (1,2) - Perhaps lower this distance a touch.
> 01:02:560 (7,1) - I think you should add a H-dash here for the heavy drum bits.

wew.

Lotus' Rain

It's perfect... moving on.

Overdose

> 00:13:990 (1) - I think this slider should be a more distint pattern than a copy of the previous one since it's a NC and it's on a strong vocal like 00:12:822 (1) -.
> 00:18:666 (3,4) - Perhaps add some rad jumps here instead? The lyrics are pretty errr... shouty enough for it.
> 00:20:744 (3) - This slider shouldn't be a H-dash since the drums are the same as the previous pair of sliders.
> 00:21:133 (1) - Not sure why this 1/1 slider doesn't start on the strong vocal like 00:12:822 (1) - and 00:16:977 (1) -.
> 00:24:380 (1,2) - Perhaps make these 1/2 hitcircle jumps? I think it would fit the guitar better.
> 00:27:886 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - I think you should switch these repeat sliders around so that they start on the guitar sounds on 00:28:016 - and every other white tick thereafter rather than having a repeat note on these sounds.
> Not sure if I agree with every 1/2 slider being a H-dash after the kiai has finished like they are in the kiai. I would prefer if you mapped this like the first half of the map where the majority of the 1/2 sliders were mapped into pairs and then a H-dash. Otherwise it kinda defeats the emphasis of having the kiai by mapping the same density of H-dashes.

I didn't proof-read this mod. Enjoy.

Sorceress

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Sorceress 2017-08-02T17:54:39+00:00

Withered Lotus wrote:
Hi - omg hi

Platter
> 00:00:129 (1) - 00:02:408 (1) - 00:03:975 (4) - should have hitsounds on them for the piano. - Can't we just pretend hitsounds don't exist? Though it looks like only JBH's Salad has hitsounds here so I'll see about getting my other guy on this
> 00:12:432 (3,1) - Make this a H-dash or make the jump a little bit shorter. - Made it a tiny bit shorter
> 00:12:822 (1,2,3,4) - A bit of a strange sequence of notes with the 1/2 slider and then the single hitcircle between the longer sliders. Perhaps delete 00:13:211 (2) -, extend 00:12:822 (1) - to the white tick and add a hitcircle on the red tick instead. - Yeah boiiii
> 00:31:003 (1) - I don't think this needs to be a repeat slider, just make it a 1/1 since there's no note on the white tick. - Yes sir
> 00:31:393 (2) - I think you should just delete this note, the drum is to subtle to be worth mapping. - Oh you know it's gone
> 00:43:989 (1,2) - Perhaps lower this distance a touch. - Nerfed it that teeny tiny bit
> 01:02:560 (7,1) - I think you should add a H-dash here for the heavy drum bits. - Hmmm, added... for now

wew. - lad

Overdose
> 00:13:990 (1) - I think this slider should be a more distint pattern than a copy of the previous one since it's a NC and it's on a strong vocal like 00:12:822 (1) -. - I'm not really following the strong vocals here. There's a held guitar sound like at 00:10:744 (1) - that I'm following throughout the diff that usually lines up with a vocal about 90% of the time but not in this case.
> 00:18:666 (3,4) - Perhaps add some rad jumps here instead? The lyrics are pretty errr... shouty enough for it. - YE BOI
> 00:20:744 (3) - This slider shouldn't be a H-dash since the drums are the same as the previous pair of sliders. - It is no longer!
> 00:21:133 (1) - Not sure why this 1/1 slider doesn't start on the strong vocal like 00:12:822 (1) - and 00:16:977 (1) -. - Following the instruments, it's a weird sound but I think the slider still fits here
> 00:24:380 (1,2) - Perhaps make these 1/2 hitcircle jumps? I think it would fit the guitar better. - I don't think these stand out all that much to warrant doing something so different here
> 00:27:886 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - I think you should switch these repeat sliders around so that they start on the guitar sounds on 00:28:016 - and every other white tick thereafter rather than having a repeat note on these sounds. - I suppose the repeating sliders might be misleading here as I'm following the strong drum sounds, every slider starts on a sick drum sound and the sliders were pretty much used because they're easy to work with
> Not sure if I agree with every 1/2 slider being a H-dash after the kiai has finished like they are in the kiai. I would prefer if you mapped this like the first half of the map where the majority of the 1/2 sliders were mapped into pairs and then a H-dash. Otherwise it kinda defeats the emphasis of having the kiai by mapping the same density of H-dashes. - Yeah totally agree here

I didn't proof-read this mod. Enjoy. - I didn't proof fread this response

Thanks for the mod babe, Platter and Overdose updated... I imagine the Salad response should come soon when JBH isn't so busy at work and maybe if we're lucky we'll get the Cup response sometime this year.

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