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Camellia - chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's "crossroads o

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Lavender
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Lavender
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2017年1月29日 at 17:16:37

Artist: Camellia
Title: chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's "crossroads of chrono" remix)
Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL
Tags: 三澤秋 Misawa Aki 猫叉Master Nekomata Master [Teichan] Skystar Amamiya Yuko collab
BPM: 149
Filesize: 30846kb
Play Time: 05:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Crossroads of peace and SAVAGE!! (6.66 stars, 1256 notes)
Download: Camellia - chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's "crossroads of chrono" remix)
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COLLAB WITH AMAMIYA YUKO
I mapped................ he mapped
........

try Sing's version here!
Credits
mp3 by Sing

Timing by Charles445

BG by 防人
Chrono Diver remixes
かめりあ - chrono diver -fragment- (かめりあ's “crossroads of chrono” remix)

USAO - Chrono Diver -PENDULUMs- (USAO remix)

Nhato - CHRONO DIVER -NORNIR- (Nhato Remix) <---Fell free to remind me if you mapped this for rank
Last edited by Lavender , edited 18 times in total.
Skystar
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Skystar
Depths
681 posts
Joined January 2014
Depths
holy
silento
298 posts
Joined June 2015
silento
Sorry but in my opinion this just destroys the fun because it comes OUT OF NOWHERE with no buildup what so ever.

Otherwise this is a stellar map, but I personally feel this pattern is not justified by the music and the build up, especially a pattern of this much intensity.

Just my opinion on the map.
Depths
681 posts
Joined January 2014
Depths
placeholder for a mod
xRaigekix
10 posts
Joined November 2012
xRaigekix
PLEASE RANK THIS, IT'S SO GOOD
p.s. great job on calm part and savage section is so dang fun :D
Lapis
76 posts
Joined October 2011
Lapis
神图
Lavender
886 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Lavender
Changed mp3 and timing, please redownload if you have downloaded this map before.
Thanks Sing for allowing me to use his timing from Charles445.
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined June 2013
Garden
320kbps?

00:39:639 (1) - 弄成包两边的如何
00:48:749 (2,3,4) - 分别nc，和其他那些一样
03:15:608 (6,7,8,9) - 因为 03:15:451 (4,5,6) - 的三连听上去太明显了，后面一串overmap连上去感觉听起来很奇怪..
03:25:974 (1,2) - 这种两个一组的全部ctrlg我个人读图起来是会比较舒服
04:31:786 (1,2) - 感觉和这段整体感觉不搭，忽然停在那了一下
04:41:367 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - 虽然不是拆开的也可以4个一nc?
Wing My Way
186 posts
Joined September 2013
Wing My Way
tai shen le
sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
sahuang

Wing My Way wrote:

tai shen le
chrono diver -fragment- 怎么说也得支持

[General]
  1. 建议slider tick静音了，00:08:793 (3,1,2) - 很明显的tick音。
  2. Audio file bitrate is too high.
    audio.mp3 319kbps

[羡慕和星爷collab]
  1. 01:55:184 - 绿线unsnap
  2. 00:25:751 - 不跟？
  3. 00:31:560 (4) - 个人意见，这样是不是会更好看 http://puu.sh/s0yAU/03f0dd97ab.jpg
  4. 00:32:508 (5) - NC
    01:22:519 - 为何突然玩起了对称
  5. 01:39:168 (1,2) - overlap感觉有点几把，01:41:681 (1,2,3) - 这种比较好看
  6. 01:44:194 (1,2,3) - 为何间距突然那么大，没听错的话重音其实是在01:44:351 - 而不是后面蓝线，现在这个间距完全没意义。
    好吧又听了下，01:39:482 - 01:41:995 - 等等你都没跟，而重音都是在前面红线+这边白线，所以说感觉 01:39:168 (1,2,3) - 等跟的音不对。
  7. 01:55:817 - 滑条应该延伸到这里吧
  8. 02:20:162 - 应该snap在这里，现在不对。
  9. 02:38:409 (1,2) - snap不对吧，02:38:382 - 02:38:697 - 起两个1/2滑条，然后 02:39:089 (1,2,1) - 听了下貌似1/3?
  10. 03:03:278 (7) - 可以去掉
    kiai一看就是星爷做的吧...删掉瞬间5.5星，现在快7星了。。。我觉得这边实在是太难了，前面全部都巨简单，这边突然来那么难的地方，有种和其他部分脱离的感觉。difficulty spread有待商榷...
    04:18:592 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 6.26 to 6.94，我觉得肯定需要nerf。
    后面一半比较霸气，前面很稳，不过感觉难度浮动太大。

就这样啦，加油~~
FINGERLOCK
153 posts
Joined March 2014
FINGERLOCK
god-tier map
Lavender
886 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Lavender
Change log:
  1. Compressed mp3 to 192kbps, please redownload if you have download this map before 11/18 cause compressing caused timing shift.
  2. Added piano key sound to intro.
  3. Replied mods about my part.
Notice: If you find unused .wav files through hitsound checker
- soft-sliderslide86.wav
- soft-sliderslide83.wav
please delete them and listen to the intro clearly and you will know why I don't delete them.
It might be an editor bug.

mod reply

Garden wrote:

320kbps? ok

00:39:639 (1) - 弄成包两边的如何 没懂..
00:48:749 (2,3,4) - 分别nc，和其他那些一样 √
03:15:608 (6,7,8,9) - 因为 03:15:451 (4,5,6) - 的三连听上去太明显了，后面一串overmap连上去感觉听起来很奇怪.. 这里还好吧
03:25:974 (1,2) - 这种两个一组的全部ctrlg我个人读图起来是会比较舒服 √

sahuang wrote:

Wing My Way wrote:

tai shen le
chrono diver -fragment- 怎么说也得支持

[General]
  1. 建议slider tick静音了，00:08:793 (3,1,2) - 很明显的tick音。 不能静音，因为我已经禁了sliderslide (sb rule)，改到了10%
  2. Audio file bitrate is too high. √
    audio.mp3 319kbps

[羡慕和星爷collab]
  1. 01:55:184 - 绿线unsnap √
  2. 00:25:751 - 不跟？ 不跟
  3. 00:31:560 (4) - 个人意见，这样是不是会更好看 http://puu.sh/s0yAU/03f0dd97ab.jpg 感觉这样反而更难看了
  4. 00:32:508 (5) - NC √
    01:22:519 - 为何突然玩起了对称 随便玩玩啊
  5. 01:39:168 (1,2) - overlap感觉有点几把，01:41:681 (1,2,3) - 这种比较好看 还好吧
  6. 01:44:194 (1,2,3) - 为何间距突然那么大，没听错的话重音其实是在01:44:351 - 而不是后面蓝线，现在这个间距完全没意义。
    好吧又听了下，01:39:482 - 01:41:995 - 等等你都没跟，而重音都是在前面红线+这边白线，所以说感觉 01:39:168 (1,2,3) - 等跟的音不对。 这个虽然面板ds大，实际上还是很好打了，并不会给人一种强调的感觉，打打就知道了
  7. 01:55:817 - 滑条应该延伸到这里吧 为了梗，不改了
  8. 02:20:162 - 应该snap在这里，现在不对。 ??喵喵喵，恕我没听出来啊
  9. 02:38:409 (1,2) - snap不对吧，02:38:382 - 02:38:697 - 起两个1/2滑条，然后 02:39:089 (1,2,1) - 听了下貌似1/3? 好，先这么改了
  10. 03:03:278 (7) - 可以去掉 还好吧
    kiai一看就是星爷做的吧...删掉瞬间5.5星，现在快7星了。。。我觉得这边实在是太难了，前面全部都巨简单，这边突然来那么难的地方，有种和其他部分脱离的感觉。difficulty spread有待商榷... 然而歌就是这样的啊，前面很和谐，我就做得特别善良特别ds；后面歌很几把，兴业就做得特别几把特别难 其实做这个的初衷就是”好像很多人觉得difficulty spike是什么大逆不道的事一样“(兴业原话) 然而估计还是会有一番大战
Thank you for modding!
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined June 2013
Garden
就是..包一下的意思（
JeZag
518 posts
Joined August 2013
JeZag
m4m!

00:26:097 (2) - i dont like not being able to click 00:26:200 :(
00:42:976 (2,1) - is it possible to make this blanket or smth?
02:00:568 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - hm if hitsounds are getting louder, why have ds decreasing? is it to perhaps represent "going to" a single point?
02:38:421 (1,2) - im not entirely convinced that the tails should be snapped to 1/3 beats, cause i cant detect anything that points to it. if you want to use 1/3 to go into 02:39:102 (1,2,1), idk what to say cause they're two entirely distinct parts in the music.
02:40:777 (1) - if possible, could you add a red anchor to it so the last part of slider is parallel to the body? something like this:
suggestion
02:58:945 (3,1,1) - The relative distances between 02:59:154 (1) and those two objects is deceiving. 02:58:945 (3,1) too far and/or 02:59:154 (1,1) too close
03:06:222 (1,1) - I dont think this is appropriate for expressing this particular part of the song because those piano notes deserves clicks! not just slider ends and repeats!
03:15:961 (1,2,3,4) - Could you do something cool here with the sliders? I was thinking start more curvy and straighten out as you get "higher".
the kiai time is toooo fun to comment on xd

i honestly tried to mod this but its too good to provide much meaning... have a star
edit: i have none, but i'll shoot you one if you gib me kudosu ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ.
Xelasto
728 posts
Joined May 2014
Xelasto
Crossroads of Peace and SAVAGE!!


00:38:421 (1,1) - Not parallel
00:38:421 (1) - I personally don't like how this whole section has so many new combos but I guess it's just personal opinion.
00:39:678 (1) - Bend inwards?
00:42:976 (2,1) - I know it's douche-y but.... blanket
00:45:175 (1) - bend more towards the left so it's parallel with 2
00:45:961 (1,2) - These look different. Are they supposed to?
00:50:201 (1,2,1) - The spacing is really trippy. 00:50:987 (1) Is too close IMO
01:06:222 (4) - The tail of this is not in the center which makes the star look weird.
01:07:479 (1,1,1) - I highly recommend you make this a repeating slider or something. The amount of times this would ruin an SS run would be enormous.
01:35:437 (1,3) - Blanket?
02:09:678 (1,2,3) - This triangle is off mostly because of 3
02:30:725 (1,2,3,4) - Triangle is off
03:08:421 (1) - Set the grid to tiny and raise the slider's middle tick a bit. It's too close to 3
03:40:777 (1,2,1) - No triangle?
03:44:861 (1) - Why not put this more to the bottom left to continue the pattern?
04:00:882 (4,1) - Being nit-picky here but better blanket? :3
04:01:667 (1,2,1,2) - Too much of this pattern goes on during this awesome part, especially at 04:18:631. I feel a bit more variation in the quick patterns would be awesome.

Very nice difficulty. In my opinion it just needs some cleaning up here and there. Good luck ranking it!
Misure
951 posts
Joined September 2012
Misure
[Crossroads of peace and SAVAGE!!]
  1. widescreen support有用到么
  2. 00:08:832 (3,1) - NC互换？
  3. 02:19:259 (5) - 这后面感觉出现的有点突然这个离后面近点比如4的头上？
  4. 02:27:584 (3,4) - 感觉有点急了 想办法近点或者滑条反向？
  5. 02:29:154 (4,5,1) - 这个flow感觉有点别扭 或者这样的？
  6. 03:00:725 (3,1) - nazi 没叠好
  7. 03:07:166 (2) - 这个用3/4接后面感觉更好
  8. 03:19:573 (6,7,1) - 摆成类似这样的铺垫一下后面节奏变化？其实我突然不知道这个用汉语怎么表达了。
  9. 03:54:599 (2) - 03:59:626 (2) - NC？
  10. 04:33:238 (3,4,5) - 三个NC？
  11. 04:43:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这怎么感觉有点像1/3.. 或者用滑条减一下打击密度表现一下缓冲感觉好点
不太摸得动...射星闪人
Good luck啊 :)
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
本来想说m4m，但是好像找不到太多东西，所以你不想摸我的就算了．或者选一两个难度水水也好
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/518359
所以就不去你q po啦~

  1. 01:55:856 - 这一声听着还是很清楚的，前面滑条加次折返比较好．这段这种强度的音好像你没没漏别的
  2. 02:04:023 (4) - 这里用note我觉得不好，人声长音，跟后面感觉是连续的，这样断开非常违和
  3. 03:14:704 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 虽然这样没什么问题但感觉有点普通．我觉得可以表现一下03:15:175 - 03:15:647 - 这俩音的不同．03:15:175 (2,3) - 可以换成滑条，然后03:15:490 (4,5) - 03:15:647 (6,7,8,9) - 这两组可以区分开（变ds/换滑条）
  4. 03:19:730 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 变速了最好还是加个nc？
  5. 03:45:175 (1) - 有点出界，虽然可能这位置不unrankable，但也不好
  6. 04:42:034 (9) - 16连有点长要不还是加个nc吧
  7. 音效方面的话，从play的角度来说会希望很多滑条头的音效声能更大一些（尤其是00:38:421 - 04:47:217 - 这种红线起滑条，其他的如果一起大声点也好，kiai也是），这样的feedback打起来会舒服很多
GL~
EncoreW
833 posts
Joined June 2013
EncoreW
[123456]

总觉得两个人做的部分画风差的有点厉害

00:42:976 (2) - 04:33:866 (1) - 这两个形状差的有点多，前面一个更丑

01:48:003 (1) - 突然一个减速滑条的话间距可以小一点，应该可以 ctrl+G

01:53:971 (2,3,4) - 都叠一起感觉不太好

02:03:081 - 放个kiai的闪光效果

02:04:181 - 这地方感觉不要空着，加个1/2滑条上去

02:19:416 (1,2,3) - 这个梗在和这个图里出现了太多次了

02:23:814 (3,4) - 叠好

03:02:296 (2,3,4,5) - 这flow好奇怪啊还不如345老老实实一个个过去

03:15:490 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个串的形状也奇怪

后面那部分摸不动了
Lapis
76 posts
Joined October 2011
Lapis
:roll:
一个月没玩感觉变了好多
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
3,460 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
[啊]
  1. 01:11:249 (4) - 感覺應該ctrl+g雖然沒什麼必要
  2. 01:17:531 (3) - 放緩速3/4slider嗎
  3. 01:52:558 (4,5,6,1) - 這樣? 雖然有點三角能量排法
    SPOILER
  4. 02:00:568 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 明明是漸小spacing聲音卻漸大 真是非常令人想吐槽
  5. 02:34:495 (1) - 有點醜 也許這樣
    SPOILER
  6. 02:38:421 (1,2) - 這兩個放1/2就好了吧 我聽1/6尾上是沒音的
  7. 03:07:479 (1,2,3) - 不跟鋼琴嗎
  8. 03:27:898 (1,2) - 雖然看起來像故意的 但是還是ctrl+g好
  9. 03:31:982 (2,3) - 我覺得這樣跟著vocal起伏好點
  10. 03:43:605 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - 怎麼又是間距漸小聲音漸大
  11. 03:53:343 (7) - 這好像沒有必要放1/4吧 而且這樣難以凸顯03:53:500 (1,2) -
  12. 04:05:594 (2,2) - 這兩個一起往右邊擺怎麼樣挖 滑條(2)可以藏到更前面那個滑條(2)的sliderend
    SPOILER
  13. 04:10:934 (7) - 是不是用彎的slider好一點 (其實我覺得串的形狀有點問題但是又好像還好
    SPOILER
  14. 04:22:872 (2) - 非常nazi但請移到(x:225, y:83)附近才會看起來比較像04:23:186 (3,4) - 的間距
  15. 04:30:254 (2) - ctrl+g?
  16. 04:42:034 (9) - 是不是應該nc因為看起來很酷
  17. 04:43:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 我個人感覺可以(2)在(1)的右下各1gird 然後(3)在(2)的左下各1gird (4)在(3)的左下各1gird (5)在(4)的右下各1gird (6)在(5)的右下各1gird (7)在(6)的左下各1gird (8)在(7)的左下各1gird 滑條(1)在(8)的右下各1gird 看起來非常複雜但實際上會變成這個樣子 是不是看起來非常酷炫呢
    SPOILER
好神啊
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
Crossroads

01:31:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Rhythm switch from sliders to 1/2 circles is a bit abrupt. There isn't a really noticeable transition so I think keeping at least 01:31:667 (1,2) - as a 1/2 slider would fell less forced.
01:37:322 (3,4,5,1) - The jump from 3>4 ends up making the jump from 5>1 feel a bit weaker imo. I would consider buffing the jump from 5>1
02:08:107 (1,2,3,1) - Having the jumps get smaller while the pitch gets higher felt kinda odd for me. I would have started smaller and ended with a larger jump onto 1.
03:37:636 (1) - I wish you had captured that "whoosh" sound on 03:37:950 - with another slider lol. I think using 3/4 sliders here would be more interesting, since the first half and second half of the repeat slider sound quite diferent
03:44:861 (1) - This placement felt quite weird. Somewhere like 140||255 would make more sense with the pattern here.
03:54:835 (3,4) - Idk, the stack felt really cramped together. I think you can give this pattern more space. It feels a bit squished together lol.
04:18:631 - I think the jumps on the bottom half of the screen could have been smaller. Like 04:18:631 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The ones on the top are good, but giving a bit of a progression would feel less forced here imo. The jumps are really big, and you don't really use spacing like this in the kiai, especially not with this many circles in a row.
04:53:500 (1,1) - Not perfectly centered, if you care lol.
04:59:311 (2) - Weird slider shape. I think something more symmetrical would be better,. considering you have those sliders 04:59:783 (1,1) - right after. Maybe incorporate some double-blanket pattern here?

[]

Good map. You can call me back~
La Valse
501 posts
Joined February 2009
La Valse
ilove this map XD

Lavender
886 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Lavender
Finally got in touch with skystar and got permission to fix mods for her.

Garden

Garden wrote:

就是..包一下的意思（
看了看好像不太好
JeZag

JeZag wrote:

m4m!

00:26:097 (2) - i dont like not being able to click 00:26:200 :( That's not a big problem though.
00:42:976 (2,1) - is it possible to make this blanket or smth? not need to blanket every time
02:00:568 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - hm if hitsounds are getting louder, why have ds decreasing? is it to perhaps represent "going to" a single point? you are right, but please look at 02:01:825 (1) - music here turns quiet suddenly, I tried ds increasing but it feels awkward here.
02:38:421 (1,2) - im not entirely convinced that the tails should be snapped to 1/3 beats, cause i cant detect anything that points to it. if you want to use 1/3 to go into 02:39:102 (1,2,1), idk what to say cause they're two entirely distinct parts in the music. idk how to snap here either, current one is fine imo
02:40:777 (1) - if possible, could you add a red anchor to it so the last part of slider is parallel to the body? something like this:
I failed, i suck at making sliders LOL
02:58:945 (3,1,1) - The relative distances between 02:59:154 (1) and those two objects is deceiving. Changed patterns.
02:58:945 (3,1) too far and/or 02:59:154 (1,1) too close ^
03:06:222 (1,1) - I dont think this is appropriate for expressing this particular part of the song because those piano notes deserves clicks! not just slider ends and repeats! Cause this is a very calm part so I just make it easier.
03:15:961 (1,2,3,4) - Could you do something cool here with the sliders? I was thinking start more curvy and straighten out as you get "higher". using sv change
the kiai time is toooo fun to comment on xd

i honestly tried to mod this but its too good to provide much meaning... have a star
edit: i have none, but i'll shoot you one if you gib me kudosu ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ.
Xelasto

Xelasto wrote:

Crossroads of Peace and SAVAGE!!


00:38:421 (1,1) - Not parallel
00:38:421 (1) - I personally don't like how this whole section has so many new combos but I guess it's just personal opinion.
00:39:678 (1) - Bend inwards?
00:42:976 (2,1) - I know it's douche-y but.... blanket
00:45:175 (1) - bend more towards the left so it's parallel with 2
00:45:961 (1,2) - These look different. Are they supposed to? No, thank you! fixed
00:50:201 (1,2,1) - The spacing is really trippy. 00:50:987 (1) Is too close IMO
01:06:222 (4) - The tail of this is not in the center which makes the star look weird.
01:07:479 (1,1,1) - I highly recommend you make this a repeating slider or something. The amount of times this would ruin an SS run would be enormous.
01:35:437 (1,3) - Blanket? ok
02:09:678 (1,2,3) - This triangle is off mostly because of 3 Fixed
02:30:725 (1,2,3,4) - Triangle is off oh this is not a triangle
03:08:421 (1) - Set the grid to tiny and raise the slider's middle tick a bit. It's too close to 3
03:40:777 (1,2,1) - No triangle?
03:44:861 (1) - Why not put this more to the bottom left to continue the pattern? okay
04:00:882 (4,1) - Being nit-picky here but better blanket? :3
04:01:667 (1,2,1,2) - Too much of this pattern goes on during this awesome part, especially at 04:18:631. I feel a bit more variation in the quick patterns would be awesome.

Very nice difficulty. In my opinion it just needs some cleaning up here and there. Good luck ranking it!
Misure

Misure wrote:

[Crossroads of peace and SAVAGE!!]
  1. widescreen support有用到么
  2. 00:08:832 (3,1) - NC互换？ k
  3. 02:19:259 (5) - 这后面感觉出现的有点突然这个离后面近点比如4的头上？
  4. 02:27:584 (3,4) - 感觉有点急了 想办法近点或者滑条反向？
  5. 02:29:154 (4,5,1) - 这个flow感觉有点别扭 或者这样的？
  6. 03:00:725 (3,1) - nazi 没叠好
  7. 03:07:166 (2) - 这个用3/4接后面感觉更好
  8. 03:19:573 (6,7,1) - 摆成类似这样的铺垫一下后面节奏变化？其实我突然不知道这个用汉语怎么表达了。
  9. 03:54:599 (2) - 03:59:626 (2) - NC？
  10. 04:33:238 (3,4,5) - 三个NC？
  11. 04:43:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 这怎么感觉有点像1/3.. 或者用滑条减一下打击密度表现一下缓冲感觉好点
不太摸得动...射星闪人
Good luck啊 :)
Pata-Mon

Pata-Mon wrote:

本来想说m4m，但是好像找不到太多东西，所以你不想摸我的就算了．或者选一两个难度水水也好
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/518359
所以就不去你q po啦~

  1. 01:55:856 - 这一声听着还是很清楚的，前面滑条加次折返比较好．这段这种强度的音好像你没没漏别的
  2. 02:04:023 (4) - 这里用note我觉得不好，人声长音，跟后面感觉是连续的，这样断开非常违和
  3. 03:14:704 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 虽然这样没什么问题但感觉有点普通．我觉得可以表现一下03:15:175 - 03:15:647 - 这俩音的不同．03:15:175 (2,3) - 可以换成滑条，然后03:15:490 (4,5) - 03:15:647 (6,7,8,9) - 这两组可以区分开（变ds/换滑条）
  4. 03:19:730 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 变速了最好还是加个nc？
  5. 03:45:175 (1) - 有点出界，虽然可能这位置不unrankable，但也不好
  6. 04:42:034 (9) - 16连有点长要不还是加个nc吧
  7. 音效方面的话，从play的角度来说会希望很多滑条头的音效声能更大一些（尤其是00:38:421 - 04:47:217 - 这种红线起滑条，其他的如果一起大声点也好，kiai也是），这样的feedback打起来会舒服很多
a,改不动
GL~
Speechless

Speechless wrote:

[123456]

总觉得两个人做的部分画风差的有点厉害

00:42:976 (2) - 04:33:866 (1) - 这两个形状差的有点多，前面一个更丑

01:48:003 (1) - 突然一个减速滑条的话间距可以小一点，应该可以 ctrl+G

01:53:971 (2,3,4) - 都叠一起感觉不太好 好

02:03:081 - 放个kiai的闪光效果

02:04:181 - 这地方感觉不要空着，加个1/2滑条上去 好

02:19:416 (1,2,3) - 这个梗在和这个图里出现了太多次了 后面改了

02:23:814 (3,4) - 叠好

03:02:296 (2,3,4,5) - 这flow好奇怪啊还不如345老老实实一个个过去

03:15:490 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - 这个串的形状也奇怪

后面那部分摸不动了
Flask

Flask wrote:

[啊]
  1. 01:11:249 (4) - 感覺應該ctrl+g雖然沒什麼必要
  2. 01:17:531 (3) - 放緩速3/4slider嗎
  3. 01:52:558 (4,5,6,1) - 這樣? 雖然有點三角能量排法
    SPOILER
  4. 02:00:568 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 明明是漸小spacing聲音卻漸大 真是非常令人想吐槽 这个再想想
  5. 02:34:495 (1) - 有點醜 也許這樣
    SPOILER
  6. 02:38:421 (1,2) - 這兩個放1/2就好了吧 我聽1/6尾上是沒音的
  7. 03:07:479 (1,2,3) - 不跟鋼琴嗎 跟的那个嗡
  8. 03:27:898 (1,2) - 雖然看起來像故意的 但是還是ctrl+g好
  9. 03:31:982 (2,3) - 我覺得這樣跟著vocal起伏好點
  10. 03:43:605 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - 怎麼又是間距漸小聲音漸大
  11. 03:53:343 (7) - 這好像沒有必要放1/4吧 而且這樣難以凸顯03:53:500 (1,2) -
  12. 04:05:594 (2,2) - 這兩個一起往右邊擺怎麼樣挖 滑條(2)可以藏到更前面那個滑條(2)的sliderend
    SPOILER
  13. 04:10:934 (7) - 是不是用彎的slider好一點 (其實我覺得串的形狀有點問題但是又好像還好
    SPOILER
  14. 04:22:872 (2) - 非常nazi但請移到(x:225, y:83)附近才會看起來比較像04:23:186 (3,4) - 的間距 ok
  15. 04:30:254 (2) - ctrl+g?
  16. 04:42:034 (9) - 是不是應該nc因為看起來很酷 很酷
  17. 04:43:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 我個人感覺可以(2)在(1)的右下各1gird 然後(3)在(2)的左下各1gird (4)在(3)的左下各1gird (5)在(4)的右下各1gird (6)在(5)的右下各1gird (7)在(6)的左下各1gird (8)在(7)的左下各1gird 滑條(1)在(8)的右下各1gird 看起來非常複雜但實際上會變成這個樣子 是不是看起來非常酷炫呢
    SPOILER
好神啊
Monstrata

Monstrata wrote:

Crossroads

01:31:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Rhythm switch from sliders to 1/2 circles is a bit abrupt. There isn't a really noticeable transition so I think keeping at least 01:31:667 (1,2) - as a 1/2 slider would fell less forced. There is 1/2 vocal here, I just wanna follow the song exactly.
01:37:322 (3,4,5,1) - The jump from 3>4 ends up making the jump from 5>1 feel a bit weaker imo. I would consider buffing the jump from 5>1 ok fixed
02:08:107 (1,2,3,1) - Having the jumps get smaller while the pitch gets higher felt kinda odd for me. I would have started smaller and ended with a larger jump onto 1. You are right, but I failed to change it without ruining other patterns.
03:37:636 (1) - I wish you had captured that "whoosh" sound on 03:37:950 - with another slider lol. I think using 3/4 sliders here would be more interesting, since the first half and second half of the repeat slider sound quite diferent ok fixed
03:44:861 (1) - This placement felt quite weird. Somewhere like 140||255 would make more sense with the pattern here. ok changed
03:54:835 (3,4) - Idk, the stack felt really cramped together. I think you can give this pattern more space. It feels a bit squished together lol. well idk either
04:18:631 - I think the jumps on the bottom half of the screen could have been smaller. Like 04:18:631 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The ones on the top are good, but giving a bit of a progression would feel less forced here imo. The jumps are really big, and you don't really use spacing like this in the kiai, especially not with this many circles in a row. You are right, nerfed jumps you mentioned.
04:53:500 (1,1) - Not perfectly centered, if you care lol. I care
04:59:311 (2) - Weird slider shape. I think something more symmetrical would be better,. considering you have those sliders 04:59:783 (1,1) - right after. Maybe incorporate some double-blanket pattern here?

k, changed to completely symmetrical patterns.
[]

Good map. You can call me back~

No reply=no fixed.

Other Changes:
  1. Metadata:

    IamKwaN wrote:

    hao

    Unicode Title: chrono diver -fragment- (かめりあ's ”crossroads of chrono” remix)
    Romanised Title: chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's "crossroads of chrono" remix)
    Unicode Artist: かめりあ
    Romanised Artist: Camellia
    Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL

    http://www.konamistyle.jp/item/73145
  2. Readjust combo colorhaxes.
  3. HP-1.
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Thank you for modding!
Depths
681 posts
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Depths
best of 2017
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Monstrata
03:28:526 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) -
03:43:605 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) -

etc... stuff like this is unrankable because you can't use two of the same combo color consecutively. You need to have a visual change between new combo's. Change one of the red colors to something else.

soft-hitnormal83.wav has sound delay.

soft-sliderslide86.wav is unused.

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Should be all.
Lavender
886 posts
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Topic Starter
Lavender

Monstrata wrote:

03:28:526 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) -
03:43:605 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1) -

etc... stuff like this is unrankable because you can't use two of the same combo color consecutively. You need to have a visual change between new combo's. Change one of the red colors to something else. Changed combo colors

soft-hitnormal83.wav has sound delay. Fixed

soft-sliderslide86.wav is unused. It's hard to explain but if you deleted this hitsound, you would hear an unexpected "bo" sound at 00:10:042 - see p/5618952 (slide83.wav is used now in hitsound checker's output cause i changed patterns)

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Should be all. Thank you.
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
Okay looks good now. Bubbled!
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined June 2013
Garden
fixed minor stuffs and #2 bubble
Kencho
952 posts
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Kencho
IRC mod
2017-01-28 20:08 Kencho: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1086050 Camellia - chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's crossroads of chrono remix) [Crossroads of peace and SAVAGE!!]]
2017-01-28 20:09 Kencho: 是不是說要nerf
2017-01-28 20:09 Lavender: .
2017-01-28 20:09 Lavender: 已经nerf了
2017-01-28 20:09 Lavender: 原来的话
2017-01-28 20:09 Lavender: 你可以看thread第一页
2017-01-28 20:09 Lavender: 有人截过图
2017-01-28 20:10 Lavender: 那时候是6.94
2017-01-28 20:10 Lavender: hhh
2017-01-28 20:10 Kencho: 已經nerf了
2017-01-28 20:10 Kencho: 666
2017-01-28 20:10 Kencho: huaiyimeifapass
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: 能
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: sukinathan
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: 都pass了6.94的那个
2017-01-28 20:11 Kencho: 我要打打看
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: 现在肯定好打多
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: 了
2017-01-28 20:11 Lavender: 原来左右好难跳
2017-01-28 20:16 Kencho: 換了鍵總是按錯
2017-01-28 20:16 Kencho: xiaosi
2017-01-28 20:16 Lavender: xiaosi
2017-01-28 20:30 Kencho: back
2017-01-28 20:34 Kencho: aaaa
2017-01-28 20:34 Lavender: aaaa
2017-01-28 20:34 Lavender: 甩不到吗
2017-01-28 20:35 Lavender: 这个跟justability那个一样的
2017-01-28 20:36 Lavender: 我觉得
2017-01-28 20:36 Lavender: 你可以把我的段删了test
2017-01-28 20:36 Lavender: 不要浪费时间
2017-01-28 20:36 Lavender: ai
2017-01-28 20:41 Kencho: a
2017-01-28 20:42 Lavender: a
2017-01-28 20:42 Kencho: http://puu.sh/tDRkt/176712857e.png
2017-01-28 20:43 Kencho: http://puu.sh/tDRli/a669b55c2f.png
2017-01-28 20:43 Lavender: unused那个
2017-01-28 20:43 Lavender: 你看thread
2017-01-28 20:44 Lavender: 你删了再听有bug
2017-01-28 20:44 Lavender: 在#1泡的时候我解释了
2017-01-28 20:44 Lavender: 这个unsupported是什么意思啊
2017-01-28 20:45 Kencho: 我也不是很懂
2017-01-28 20:46 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDRrC/83127d8e63.png
2017-01-28 20:46 Lavender: 不知道有什么问题
2017-01-28 20:46 Lavender: 没delay
2017-01-28 20:46 Lavender: 长度也够
2017-01-28 20:47 Kencho: 86那個unused是有道理的
2017-01-28 20:47 Kencho: 因為完全沒有經過滑條身體
2017-01-28 20:47 Kencho: 你放的timing都是在一個點
2017-01-28 20:48 Kencho: 相對其他的82 83 84 85都有經過滑條身體
2017-01-28 20:48 Lavender: 是啊
2017-01-28 20:49 Lavender: 但是你试过delete没
2017-01-28 20:49 Lavender: 这是有影响的
2017-01-28 20:49 Lavender: 虽然可能是个bug
2017-01-28 20:50 Lavender: 00:08:832 (1) -
2017-01-28 20:50 Lavender: 这个滑条尾
2017-01-28 20:51 Lavender: 我猜可能是红线和滑条尾差了0.001
2017-01-28 20:51 Kencho: 聽見了
2017-01-28 20:51 Lavender: 红线在前
2017-01-28 20:51 Kencho: 大概是1ms誤差
2017-01-28 20:51 Lavender: 导致滑条最后有一段变成了86
2017-01-28 20:51 Lavender: 但是差得太小
2017-01-28 20:51 Lavender: editor不报bug
2017-01-28 20:57 Kencho: 稍等
2017-01-28 21:04 Kencho: 01:17:374 (2,3) - 這個我覺得改一下比較好
2017-01-28 21:04 Kencho: http://puu.sh/tDS2O/d4935ebd81.jpg
2017-01-28 21:05 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDS4I/145df2c53e.jpg
2017-01-28 21:05 Lavender: 等会
2017-01-28 21:05 Lavender: 我觉得可能那个红线那里
2017-01-28 21:06 Lavender: 可以通过改前面的bpm解决
2017-01-28 21:06 Kencho: 可以改嗎
2017-01-28 21:06 Lavender: 。
2017-01-28 21:07 Lavender: 你看了我发的puu没
2017-01-28 21:07 Lavender: 就是这么改的
2017-01-28 21:07 Kencho: ？
2017-01-28 21:07 Kencho: 哪個puu
2017-01-28 21:07 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDS4I/145df2c53e.jpg
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 是不是被网吞掉了
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 之前就有发
2017-01-28 21:08 Kencho: 哦，我以為你說86那個
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 。
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 我错了
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 86那
2017-01-28 21:08 Lavender: 改bpm没用
2017-01-28 21:09 Lavender: editor自动snap的
2017-01-28 21:09 Lavender: 然后就gg
2017-01-28 21:09 Kencho: 應該沒用的，估計不是delay問題
2017-01-28 21:10 Kencho: stack leniency改成6吧
2017-01-28 21:10 Kencho: 其實我覺得ar9.6有點高
2017-01-28 21:10 Lavender: 这个随意
2017-01-28 21:11 Lavender: 因为我不知道有什么差别
2017-01-28 21:11 Kencho: 有差別
2017-01-28 21:11 Kencho: 1/1空拍的堆疊不同的
2017-01-28 21:11 Kencho: 01:26:641 (4,1) - 比如
2017-01-28 21:12 Lavender: o
2017-01-28 21:12 Kencho: SL7會自動錯開，SL6沒有，這個也取決於AR
2017-01-28 21:12 Lavender: 那就9.5
2017-01-28 21:12 Lavender: 不能太低了
2017-01-28 21:12 Lavender: 因为后面还是比较intese的
2017-01-28 21:12 Lavender: intense
2017-01-28 21:12 Kencho: 好，AR9.5的話，SL用5
2017-01-28 21:13 Lavender: k
2017-01-28 21:13 Kencho: 02:12:427 - 
2017-01-28 21:13 Lavender: 说起来
2017-01-28 21:13 Lavender: 01:07:479 (1,1,1) -
2017-01-28 21:13 Lavender: 你觉得这里要不要hitsound
2017-01-28 21:14 Kencho: 這裡有個音覺得應該加個圈
2017-01-28 21:14 Kencho: 01:07:479 (1,1,1) - 有得加當然加
2017-01-28 21:14 Lavender: 这里不好改了
2017-01-28 21:15 Lavender: k
2017-01-28 21:15 Lavender: 加了
2017-01-28 21:15 Kencho: http://puu.sh/tDSp7/6ab7c19e1a.jpg
2017-01-28 21:15 Kencho: 這樣也可以啊
2017-01-28 21:15 Kencho: 雖然有梗在
2017-01-28 21:16 Kencho: 或者http://puu.sh/tDSry/17ce6d0fdf.jpg
2017-01-28 21:16 Lavender: 我想想
2017-01-28 21:17 Kencho: http://puu.sh/tDSvK/2dfde09185.jpg
2017-01-28 21:17 Kencho: 這樣也可以
2017-01-28 21:18 Kencho: 02:12:191 (3,4) - 互換位置
2017-01-28 21:20 Lavender: 三连还是没加
2017-01-28 21:20 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDSBk/ffd9702396.jpg
2017-01-28 21:20 Lavender: 这样了
2017-01-28 21:20 Lavender: 感觉flow好点
2017-01-28 21:22 Kencho: 那你自己考慮吧，我覺得加三連比較好
2017-01-28 21:22 Kencho: 另外02:38:421 (1,2) - 
2017-01-28 21:22 Kencho: 是snap 1/6？
2017-01-28 21:23 Lavender: 听起来是
2017-01-28 21:23 Lavender: 你25听一下
2017-01-28 21:24 Lavender: 这个滑条尾没音的
2017-01-28 21:24 Kencho: 好吧就這樣
2017-01-28 21:24 Lavender: 听不出来
2017-01-28 21:24 Kencho: 02:58:369 (1,1) - 
2017-01-28 21:24 Lavender: 大概头对就可以
2017-01-28 21:24 Kencho: 這個我覺得疊到x256 y128好一點
2017-01-28 21:25 Kencho: 主要是02:58:526 (2,1,2) - 打起來卡手
2017-01-28 21:25 Lavender: 我改一下
2017-01-28 21:26 Kencho: 02:57:427 (2,3) - 這兩個物件也放到256 128好點
2017-01-28 21:26 Kencho: 正中心
2017-01-28 21:27 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDSTm/3ddde81e4d.jpg
2017-01-28 21:27 Lavender: 这样
2017-01-28 21:28 Lavender: 会不会好些
2017-01-28 21:28 Kencho: 也好
2017-01-28 21:28 Kencho: 03:37:636 (1) - 03:37:950 (2) - 互換NC？
2017-01-28 21:29 Lavender: 可
2017-01-28 21:31 Kencho: 05:00:097 (1) - 和05:00:725 (1) - 大概沒必要nc
2017-01-28 21:31 Kencho: 05:02:296 (1,2,1,2) - 像
2017-01-28 21:31 Kencho: 不對
2017-01-28 21:31 Kencho: 倒不如說NC05:02:610 (2) - 和05:03:238 (2) - 
2017-01-28 21:32 Lavender: http://puu.sh/tDT2O/e069514f0e.jpg
2017-01-28 21:32 Lavender: 这样了
2017-01-28 21:32 Lavender: 两个一组
2017-01-28 21:32 Kencho: ok
2017-01-28 21:33 Kencho: 05:01:039 (2) - 也NC吧，像04:48:474 (1) - 
2017-01-28 21:34 Lavender: ?
2017-01-28 21:34 Lavender: 你再看看我刚才那张图
2017-01-28 21:34 Kencho: 。
2017-01-28 21:34 Kencho: ok
2017-01-28 21:34 Kencho: 可以更新了
2017-01-28 21:35 Kencho: 不過你再檢查一遍
2017-01-28 21:35 Lavender: 我没有modding assistant
2017-01-28 21:35 Lavender: 你最好再过一遍
2017-01-28 21:35 Lavender: 。
2017-01-28 21:35 Lavender: 我卡11%了
2017-01-28 21:35 Kencho: 重啟
2017-01-28 21:36 Lavender: 重启osu再更新
2017-01-28 21:37 Lavender: aaaaa
2017-01-28 21:37 Lavender: colorhax出问题了
2017-01-28 21:37 Lavender: 02:12:505 (1) -
2017-01-28 21:37 Kencho: 思考
2017-01-28 21:37 Lavender: 这里删了一个nc全出问题了
2017-01-28 21:37 Lavender: 还是加回来
2017-01-28 21:37 Kencho: 所以應該三連
2017-01-28 21:38 Lavender: 算
2017-01-28 21:38 Lavender: 算了
2017-01-28 21:38 Lavender: 我重新做一遍colorhax
2017-01-28 21:38 Lavender: 几分钟
2017-01-28 21:42 Lavender: 你检查下
2017-01-28 21:42 Lavender: 我也再复查一遍
2017-01-28 21:42 Kencho: 先傳了
2017-01-28 21:43 Kencho: 我才能堅持
2017-01-28 21:43 Kencho: 檢查*
2017-01-28 21:43 Lavender: 我传了啊
2017-01-28 21:43 Kencho: 好吧
2017-01-28 21:45 Kencho: metadata什麼的都搞定了吧
2017-01-28 21:45 Lavender: 你看thread
2017-01-28 21:45 Lavender: 我po了
2017-01-28 21:45 Lavender: kwan的
2017-01-28 21:45 Kencho: 可
2017-01-28 21:46 Lavender: 我这边没问题了
2017-01-28 21:46 Kencho: 我也沒找到問題
2017-01-28 21:47 Kencho: 準備起飛
2017-01-28 21:47 Lavender: 蟹蟹

Looks good for me

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pw384
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pw384
gratz!!!!
Lavender
886 posts
Joined January 2014
Topic Starter
Lavender
To clarify:
If you find unused hitsound: soft-sliderslide86.wav. That's because of snapping problem in osu editor. Please listen to 00:08:832 (1) - this slider's end after deleting it and you will hear a "bo" sound.


My assumption: That's because that timing point is actually 1ms earlier than sliderend and editor assumes they are snapped properly. Then this slider would be SC:86 for the last 1ms.

If you could solve this without changing timing(timing is done by charles445), don't hesitate to request a dq.
Depths
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Depths
holy fuck, grats
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
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Flask
特產起飛了
Modem
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Modem
Congrats~~~ />w</
IamKwaN
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2012
IamKwaN
I don't remember symbol of " is not allowed in the Romanised fields?

IamKwaN wrote:

hao

Unicode Title: chrono diver -fragment- (かめりあ's ”crossroads of chrono” remix)
Romanised Title: chrono diver -fragment- (Camellia's "crossroads of chrono" remix)
Unicode Artist: かめりあ
Romanised Artist: Camellia
Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL

http://www.konamistyle.jp/item/73145

good luck~
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