Rings of Saturn - Senseless Massacre (Cut Ver.) · forum

Fenza

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-10-11T14:42:25+00:00

Itasha_S13 wrote:
hi froem meh q

Fenza's Genocide
00:02:337 (1) - move this down, the same as 00:01:615 (4,1) - no i think this is better
00:03:226 (1) - why not adding more distance here like in the rest of streams? it'll give more emphasis on the vocals!because it has a really shard turning point at the slider which emphasizes it a lot
00:16:281 (8,9) - there is a change of spacing here? ye by a few pixels
01:03:649 (2,3,4,1) - should use more ds here, it doesnt make difference from the 1/4 streams (~~or thats the point~~?) spaced it out a bit more generally made it obvious that it was 1/3
gl

Fenza

154 posts

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-10-11T14:43:24+00:00

updated

osu file format v14

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headphonewearer

788 posts

Joined October 2014

headphonewearer 2016-10-11T14:43:27+00:00

DJ Fish wrote:
Normal
00:03:671 (1) and the end point of 00:05:004 (1) should be stacked (And ofcourse you have to fix distance of the next objects if it doesn't look right) done
00:18:337 (3,4) - Fix blanket ye
00:31:671 (1) - Fix the shape a little bit looks fine to me
00:39:671 (3) - Maybe make this slider's shape similar to 00:28:115 (1) why?
00:43:004- Maybe add a circle? yes
00:47:671 (1) - Maybe make this slider's shape similar to 00:28:115 (1) nah
00:50:115- Maybe add a circle? ye
00:57:448 (3) - Move three grids up to make it look better done

Thanks!

kode

osu file format v14

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Cryptic

551 posts

Joined December 2013

Cryptic 2016-10-26T18:00:00+00:00

Just a tip: Since the actual song has no Short version variation anywhere online, and since you were the one who cut this, the Short ver. (or maybe even cut version) should be in the tags, not the title. The title of a song is meant to be the official versions you can find online and since this is a fan cut, it should only be in the tags.

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-10-26T23:27:39+00:00

Cryptic wrote:
Just a tip: Since the actual song has no Short version variation anywhere online, and since you were the one who cut this, the Short ver. (or maybe even cut version) should be in the tags, not the title. The title of a song is meant to be the official versions you can find online and since this is a fan cut, it should only be in the tags.

Alrighty. This'll be the 4th time I changed it lol.

Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2016-10-29T04:05:26+00:00

Q

[Insane]
00:07:671 (3) - NC
00:26:560 (2) - 00:27:005 (2) - 00:27:449 (2) - ctrl G for flow
00:28:337 (1,2,1,2,1) - ^
00:35:448 (4,8) - avoid overlap

Other diffs looks awkward totally.
good luck, Sorry for poor mods

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-10-29T07:53:56+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q Yo

[Insane]
00:07:671 (3) - NC To me, it would imply there was more than a 1/4 break, so no.
00:26:560 (2) - 00:27:005 (2) - 00:27:449 (2) - ctrl G for flow The reach is too high, and this is the gimmick of this map
00:28:337 (1,2,1,2,1) - ^ ^
00:35:448 (4,8) - avoid overlap Alrighty

Other diffs looks awkward totally. I can advocate for all diffs but the hard when I say they play just fine!
good luck, Sorry for poor mods No problem

niyuji

529 posts

Joined November 2014

niyuji 2016-10-29T15:06:33+00:00

no PP farm

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-10-29T16:53:02+00:00

_Kise wrote:
no PP farm

If you can get PP out of this, you are a God.

niyuji

529 posts

Joined November 2014

niyuji 2016-10-31T19:43:36+00:00

Okayyyy. I am back.
From m4m.

Easy

► 00:02:782 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:02:671
► 00:05:893 (2,3) - fix blanket maybe move 00:06:782 (3) - to 380 312
► 00:50:337 (1,2) - ^
► 01:08:761 (2,1) - ^

Mapper's Normal

► 00:01:893 (2,1) - fix blanket
► 00:37:671 (2) - move to 28 188 for equal ds (1,21x)
► 00:42:782 (2,3) - again tiny spacing issues
► 00:49:226 (1,2) - check slider's curve so it looks better with the following circle like: before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458646 after https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458638
► 00:51:893 (2,3) - fix blanket
► 01:03:428 (1,1) - ^
► 01:05:206 (3,4) - ^
► 01:06:539 (3,4) - sliders are different. better if you copy/paste and rotate
► 01:06:983 (4,5) - fix blanket

Insane

► 00:10:337 (2,4) - maybe blanket it or smth because now it looks super weird
► 00:11:448 (2,3) - ^
► 00:12:115 (1) - move a little to the right so 00:12:115 (1) - doesn't touch 00:11:448 (2)
► 00:17:448 (1,2) - according to the main vocal i would put 3 kicksliders here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458754
► 00:21:782 (4,5) - fix blanket, move 00:21:893 (5) - down a little (352 132)
► 00:32:337 (1,2) - check spacing and here 00:32:782 (3,4,5) - maybe move them so it's more similar
► 00:36:560 (2,3) - fix blanket, looks bad
► 00:40:115 (2,3) - why NCs? remove them
maybe decrease od from 8 to ~7,6?

Extra

► 00:21:671 (1,2,3) - fix blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458878
► 00:36:337 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^
► 00:50:782 (4,1) - ^
► 01:00:984 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^
► 01:08:095 (4) - maybe move a little to the left like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458925

Fenza's Extreme

► 00:13:671 (6,1,2,3,4,1) - very close, move 00:13:671 (6) - somewhere right like 24 24 and also connect it with 00:12:560 (4,5,6,7,8) - slder'ss end https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6459036
► 00:21:004 (1,2,3,4,1) - move to 128 164 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6459050 well but later you'll have stack problems... (maybe just ignore this)
► 00:25:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks super weird, maybe change stream's shape like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458978

Good luck

I hope my mod helped you.

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-11-01T13:59:17+00:00

_Kise wrote:
Okayyyy. I am back. wb
From m4m.

Easy
? 00:02:782 (2) - i think this slider should start here 00:02:671 Okay
? 00:05:893 (2,3) - fix blanket maybe move 00:06:782 (3) - to 380 312 Done
? 00:50:337 (1,2) - ^ Sure
? 01:08:761 (2,1) - ^ There's nothing wrong with this one
Insane
? 00:10:337 (2,4) - maybe blanket it or smth because now it looks super weird Okay
? 00:11:448 (2,3) - ^ Nope
? 00:12:115 (1) - move a little to the right so 00:12:115 (1) - doesn't touch 00:11:448 (2) Fixed
? 00:17:448 (1,2) - according to the main vocal i would put 3 kicksliders here like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458754 Alrighty
? 00:21:782 (4,5) - fix blanket, move 00:21:893 (5) - down a little (352 132) Hmm, fine
? 00:32:337 (1,2) - check spacing and here 00:32:782 (3,4,5) - maybe move them so it's more similar Made spacing equal
? 00:36:560 (2,3) - fix blanket, looks bad Tweaked a bit
? 00:40:115 (2,3) - why NCs? remove them Sure thing
maybe decrease od from 8 to ~7,6? 7.5 is good
Extra
? 00:21:671 (1,2,3) - fix blanket https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458878 Done
? 00:36:337 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ Okay
? 00:50:782 (4,1) - ^ Sure
? 01:00:984 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^ Moved a little
? 01:08:095 (4) - maybe move a little to the left like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458925 Nah

Good luck I hope my mod helped you. Thanks

BOUYAAA

396 posts

Joined July 2010

BOUYAAA 2016-11-02T11:41:49+00:00

Hello. I'm, uh, a bit late.
I don't point out every iteration of an issue. if you agree with something, go through your map and apply wherever you can/want

Easy :

00:01:449 (1,2) - I'd avoid any kind of 1/2 rythm in easy diffs. 3/2 gaps are unintuitive because polarity is switched without any warning. Doing some sort of simplification where 2 starts on the second beat would probably be better here
00:27:893 (2,3) - same issue here where the first slider should end here 00:28:560 -. 00:35:004 (2) - same

00:10:782 (4,1) - These objects are too close relative to what is happening until now. Looks messy and doesn't help with reading

. Also the flow of the next objects is pretty ass 00:12:115 (1,2,3) - 2 is not really following the trajectory that the slider indicates, this probably should be the case in such a diff.

00:17:004 (2,4) - isn't pretty, the blanketting suggests the slider should be further away. Also 00:17:893 (3,4) - should make a continuous curve when playing the pattern something like this : http://puu.sh/s3SlK/72541b4661.jpg idk

00:30:337 (4,1) - blanket tbh, also make it so 00:30:337 (4,2) - are not so close to each other so the pattern feels less cluttered

00:38:115 (2) - Feels weird considering you used a different rythm to express it now. I suggest you keep things consistent by using a slider from here 00:38:560 - to 00:39:004 - for example

00:45:893 (5) - what about starting the slider on the strong sounds lol 00:45:671 - . you seem comfy using 1/1 so why not use it here?

Other than that things could breathe a bit more. some patterns are kinda cluttered to me and alot of them go back on themselves (idk if that makes sense). for example 00:20:782 (3,4,1,2) - 00:27:893 (2,4) - 00:27:893 (2,4) - 00:45:893 (5,2) - 00:46:560 (6,3) -. these patterns are rather confusing to read for new players and i don't really see a reason for them since there is a lot of room left on the playfield ;(

Normal :

00:02:337 (3,1) -00:05:004 (1,2) - 00:06:337 (5,1) - 00:09:004 (2,3) - 00:09:892 (4,1) - etc. you often prioritise aesthetics over good flow . I disagree with this, especially in lowe diffs where things should be intuitive and simple. The sliderend should point towards the next object.

00:05:004 (1) - I think i get why you do that but things look really out of place when comparing the angle to the next sliders 00:05:893 (4,5) -

00:17:004 (4,1,2) - 2 is on screen when the player clicks 4, this is probably not readable at this level as the player might confuse 2's head or tail as the next object

00:17:893 (2,4,1,2) - yea same

00:25:448 (3,1) - when player clicks 3, 1 is apprearing on screen, I'd probably avoid this too

01:03:872 (3,1) - flow pls, beginners might mistake that sliderend for head

Hard :

Jumps make the whole thing look like an insane. gameplay elements don't seem fitting for a hard diff. You're probably better off mapping a few 1/2 than boosting sr via spacing. I'd ask the bubble guys for opinions on that but to me it doesn't seem fine

Spacing is also not very representative of what the song expresses Some unimportant beats have higher jumps then emphasized beats. for example here 00:11:671 (2,3,1) - 2-3 has huge spacing where 2/1 has baby spacing comparatively. downbeat is definately more important than 3 so there is something wrong

happens in other places too like 00:25:226 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 00:34:782 (5,1,2) - etc kinda happens in other diffs too, you should probably take a look

Questionable flow choices : 00:02:782 (5,1) - 00:03:893 (2,1) - 00:18:782 (2,1) -

00:02:782 (5) - slider starts on white but the vocals you start on red. Intentional?

00:13:004 (2,1) - 00:14:560 (3,1) - same mapping, different snapping, not a good idea since it wrecks readability

00:18:115 (1,2,1) - linear jumps in hard diffs, especially with variable spacing, is reaaaaally not recomended

00:18:115 (1,2,1) - also you should nc on downbeat so things indicate the structure of the music. Also here 00:25:226 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - etc

00:20:782 (2) - sv change probably is too brutal for a hard diff. It's twice as slow as your regular sv

00:31:893 (1,2) - idk why you change polarity here all of a sudden. The song doesn't do any offeat stuff so you probably should keep mapping on beat (these sliderends should be clickable)

00:39:671 (2,1) - looks fancy but it's not appropriate for a hard diff

01:07:428 (2,1) - your blanketing triggers me 00:54:115 (2,4) -

Insane :

00:14:448 (3) - you're mapping offbeat when song is not, white tick is stronger than the red tick so slider from red to white makes little sense. something like this works better : http://puu.sh/s3UeK/01383a5aaa.jpg 00:21:560 (3,4) -

00:18:337 (1,2) - aren't these two supposed to be inverted in the timeline? lol

00:34:782 (1) - sliderend is so strong it probably should be clickable

00:36:560 (2) - since there are two vocals here you probably want to separate this into two repeats too

Extra :

I liked playing this diff alot. Just a few things you could improve :

00:37:560 (2,3) - Maybe unstack them just a little so 1/1 is a little more obvious

00:44:115 (1) - Mapping the two guitar sounds with two sliders would be very satisfying to play imo and would make a bit more sense than having a strong sound on a sliderend 00:51:226 (1) - same here actually etc

Fenza :

Can't play but :

00:01:671 (1) - Nc is unnecessary

00:18:115 (3,3) - some of your objects are kinda close. I'd separate to keep structure consistent (compare the gaps here 00:18:115 (3,1,2,3) - )

Seems well made

Last diff :

00:19:560 (1) - weird solo nc

00:37:227 (1) - please map the important sounds, especially in those difficulties. There is a strong vocal on the sliderend that should be clickable

00:37:560 (2,3,1) - same as extra

k not much else to say about higher diffs for me. Spread might be an issue tho :
Normal=full 1/1 DS. Hard=Alot of 1/1 jumps
Hard = Almost no 1/2. Insane = Full of 1/2
Insane = no 1/4. Extra alot of 1/4 (the jump between these 2 is particularly huge imo, It feels like a 5*ish diff is missing or something)
Maybe it's just me not being used to see gaps this high between diffs (especially since i don't see such high bpm maps very often) but usually gameplay elements are kinda mixed between diffs.
It might be fine but i'd ask the right people about it

There are probably a milion typos. If anything is unclear I'm joinable in game.
Lets hope this gets somewhere. Gl!

headphonewearer

788 posts

Joined October 2014

headphonewearer 2016-11-03T17:43:07+00:00

_Kise wrote:
Mapper's Normal
► 00:01:893 (2,1) - fix blanket a little bit
► 00:37:671 (2) - move to 28 188 for equal ds (1,21x) fixed
► 00:42:782 (2,3) - again tiny spacing issues fixed
► 00:49:226 (1,2) - check slider's curve so it looks better with the following circle like: before https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458646 after https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458638 that's what we call a blanket sir. xd
► 00:51:893 (2,3) - fix blanket FIXED
► 01:03:428 (1,1) - ^
► 01:05:206 (3,4) - ^ fixed all
► 01:06:539 (3,4) - sliders are different. better if you copy/paste and rotate doesnt affect gameplay, so no
► 01:06:983 (4,5) - fix blanket fixed lol

BOUYAAA wrote:
oo bouyaaa
Normal :

00:02:337 (3,1) -00:05:004 (1,2) - 00:06:337 (5,1) - 00:09:004 (2,3) - 00:09:892 (4,1) - etc. you often prioritise aesthetics over good flow . I disagree with this, especially in lowe diffs where things should be intuitive and simple. The sliderend should point towards the next object. fixed all except the second one because i dont know what else to do there to make is look good

00:05:004 (1) - I think i get why you do that but things look really out of place when comparing the angle to the next sliders 00:05:893 (4,5) - ye idk what else to do x)

00:17:004 (4,1,2) - 2 is on screen when the player clicks 4, this is probably not readable at this level as the player might confuse 2's head or tail as the next object fixed

00:17:893 (2,4,1,2) - yea same i tried to fix it and still make it look good

00:25:448 (3,1) - when player clicks 3, 1 is apprearing on screen, I'd probably avoid this too not needed

01:03:872 (3,1) - flow pls, beginners might mistake that sliderend for head im sure itll be fine

Thanks!

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HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-11-03T18:07:28+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
Hello. I'm, uh, a bit late.
I don't point out every iteration of an issue. if you agree with something, go through your map and apply wherever you can/want

Easy :

00:01:449 (1,2) - I'd avoid any kind of 1/2 rythm in easy diffs. 3/2 gaps are unintuitive because polarity is switched without any warning. Doing some sort of simplification where 2 starts on the second beat would probably be better here Alrighty
00:27:893 (2,3) - same issue here where the first slider should end here 00:28:560 -. This one I'll keep. It follows the song too well imo.

00:35:004 (2) - same ^

00:10:782 (4,1) - These objects are too close relative to what is happening until now. Looks messy and doesn't help with reading . I have to keep the same DS or else people get pissy. I'll change it around though! Also the flow of the next objects is pretty ass 00:12:115 (1,2,3) - 2 is not really following the trajectory that the slider indicates, this probably should be the case in such a diff. Remapped this entire part

00:17:004 (2,4) - isn't pretty, the blanketting suggests the slider should be further away. Also 00:17:893 (3,4) - should make a continuous curve when playing the pattern something like this : http://puu.sh/s3SlK/72541b4661.jpg idk Made the exact pattern when remapping the above :v

00:30:337 (4,1) - blanket tbh, also make it so 00:30:337 (4,2) - are not so close to each other so the pattern feels less cluttered Fixed

00:38:115 (2) - Feels weird considering you used a different rythm to express it now. I suggest you keep things consistent by using a slider from here 00:38:560 - to 00:39:004 - for example I think it fits better with the enternce of more drums.

00:45:893 (5) - what about starting the slider on the strong sounds lol 00:45:671 - . you seem comfy using 1/1 so why not use it here? I did this for two reasons. 1) 00:44:115 (2,3,4,5) - has equal spacing, and 2) the kiai time starts 00:45:893 - with the addition of the china being more intense/

Other than that things could breathe a bit more. some patterns are kinda cluttered to me and alot of them go back on themselves (idk if that makes sense). for example 00:20:782 (3,4,1,2) - 00:27:893 (2,4) - 00:27:893 (2,4) - 00:45:893 (5,2) - 00:46:560 (6,3) -. these patterns are rather confusing to read for new players and i don't really see a reason for them since there is a lot of room left on the playfield ;( This happened because I'm fairly inexperienced with easy mapping. (this is my first easy map). I tried to add a very flowey feel to it, but it ended up being cramped. I changed 00:27:893 (2,4) - 00:27:893 (2,4) - , but left the others because I feel like they were fine.

Hard :[/b][/u]

Jumps make the whole thing look like an insane. gameplay elements don't seem fitting for a hard diff. You're probably better off mapping a few 1/2 than boosting sr via spacing. I'd ask the bubble guys for opinions on that but to me it doesn't seem fine
Spacing is also not very representative of what the song expresses Some unimportant beats have higher jumps then emphasized beats. for example here 00:11:671 (2,3,1) - 2-3 has huge spacing where 2/1 has baby spacing comparatively. downbeat is definately more important than 3 so there is something wrong happens in other places too like 00:25:226 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 00:34:782 (5,1,2) - etc kinda happens in other diffs too, you should probably take a look I do this to emphasize the gradual intensity of the song. I think it's okay. With the jumps increasing the SR, I honestly didn't realize that until you brought it up. But in most modern maps, the difference between it being a 5* and a 6* is one jump pattern.

Questionable flow choices : 00:02:782 (5,1) - 00:03:893 (2,1) - 00:18:782 (2,1) - Mainly because of the clutter that woulb be on screen.

00:02:782 (5) - slider starts on white but the vocals you start on red. Intentional? Yeah. Follows the drum because the transition from 1/1 to 1/2 would be a bit awkward.

00:13:004 (2,1) - 00:14:560 (3,1) - same mapping, different snapping, not a good idea since it wrecks readability Fixed

00:18:115 (1,2,1) - linear jumps in hard diffs, especially with variable spacing, is reaaaaally not recomended Sure thing

00:18:115 (1,2,1) - also you should nc on downbeat so things indicate the structure of the music. Also here 00:25:226 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - etc Fine how it is

00:20:782 (2) - sv change probably is too brutal for a hard diff. It's twice as slow as your regular sv Changed

00:31:893 (1,2) - idk why you change polarity here all of a sudden. The song doesn't do any offeat stuff so you probably should keep mapping on beat (these sliderends should be clickable) Fixed

00:39:671 (2,1) - looks fancy but it's not appropriate for a hard diff I don;t see why not.

01:07:428 (2,1) - your blanketing triggers me 00:54:115 (2,4) - Yeah, I'm not very good at it...

Insane :

00:14:448 (3) - you're mapping offbeat when song is not, white tick is stronger than the red tick so slider from red to white makes little sense. something like this works better : http://puu.sh/s3UeK/01383a5aaa.jpg 00:21:560 (3,4) - Done dealio

00:18:337 (1,2) - aren't these two supposed to be inverted in the timeline? lol Nope

00:34:782 (1) - sliderend is so strong it probably should be clickable Alrighty

00:36:560 (2) - since there are two vocals here you probably want to separate this into two repeats too Sure thing

Extra :

I liked playing this diff alot. Thanks <3 Just a few things you could improve :

00:37:560 (2,3) - Maybe unstack them just a little so 1/1 is a little more obvious Fixed

00:44:115 (1) - Mapping the two guitar sounds with two sliders would be very satisfying to play imo and would make a bit more sense than having a strong sound on a sliderend 00:51:226 (1) - same here actually etc Done

Last diff :[/b][/u]

00:19:560 (1) - weird solo nc Makes it look a lot cleaner imo. If I get asked in the future, I'll change.

00:37:227 (1) - please map the important sounds, especially in those difficulties. There is a strong vocal on the sliderend that should be clickable Fixedarino

00:37:560 (2,3,1) - same as extra Alrighty

k not much else to say about higher diffs for me. Spread might be an issue tho :
Normal=full 1/1 DS. Hard=Alot of 1/1 jumps
Hard = Almost no 1/2. Insane = Full of 1/2
Insane = no 1/4. Did have 1/4, but 270bpm... Extra alot of 1/4 (the jump between these 2 is particularly huge imo, It feels like a 5*ish diff is missing or something) This is in a lot of ranked mapsets, shouldn't be a problem.
Maybe it's just me not being used to see gaps this high between diffs (especially since i don't see such high bpm maps very often) but usually gameplay elements are kinda mixed between diffs.
It might be fine but i'd ask the right people about it It's hard to get in contact with them. I usually look at other ranked sets for guidence.

There are probably a milion typos. If anything is unclear I'm joinable in game. I understood it all
Lets hope this gets somewhere. I would too! Gl!Thanks man. Whenever you need a mod, message me!

Fenza

154 posts

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-11-04T10:03:31+00:00

_Kise wrote:
Okayyyy. I am back.
From m4m.

Fenza's Extreme
► 00:13:671 (6,1,2,3,4,1) - very close, move 00:13:671 (6) - somewhere right like 24 24 and also connect it with 00:12:560 (4,5,6,7,8) - slder'ss end https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6459036 it's fine as it is
► 00:21:004 (1,2,3,4,1) - move to 128 164 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6459050 well but later you'll have stack problems... (maybe just ignore this)fixed up the blanket
► 00:25:448 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks super weird, maybe change stream's shape like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6458978
i don't want to completely emphasize the guitar there i just want the really noticable pitch changes 00:25:448 (1) - and 00:25:893 (1) - and and i dont get how you think it looks weird

Good luck I hope my mod helped you.

Fenza

154 posts

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-11-04T10:08:24+00:00

BOUYAAA wrote:
Hello. I'm, uh, a bit late.
I don't point out every iteration of an issue. if you agree with something, go through your map and apply wherever you can/want

Fenza :

Can't play but :

00:01:671 (1) - Nc is unnecessary yea

00:18:115 (3,3) - some of your objects are kinda close. I'd separate to keep structure consistent (compare the gaps here 00:18:115 (3,1,2,3) - )fixed up the structure so less overmapping but i want to keep them close

Seems well made thanks

Fenza

154 posts

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-11-04T10:08:55+00:00

xd

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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Silverboxer

670 posts

Joined December 2012

Silverboxer 2016-11-08T23:43:57+00:00

m4m

Easy

00:27:893 (2) - could possibly shorten this to the next white tick? it sounds awkward when played how it is now, even though it matches the music better. consider it anyway
00:35:004 (2) - same here

Mappers's Normal

00:10:782 (3,1) - really intense part, maybe these sliders can not flow so smoothly? it would fit the part better
00:14:782 (3) - overlap with end of 00:13:004 (3)
00:21:893 (3,1) - put a note between these on 00:22:337 maybe
00:44:782 (2,3) - move slider 3 down to flow better
00:49:226 (1,2,3,4) - this could either look better, or flow nicer from 1 to 2? it goes from hard angle between 1 and 2, and then straight line between 2, 3, and 4

Hard

00:02:782 (5,1) - slider 5 should flow into circle 1? intense part is only during the next pattern, so I think this flow is a bit weird
00:03:893 (2,1) - hmmm ctrl g on the slider would be better to me but then you'd have to fix other stuff too
00:29:893 (1,1,1,1) - why these all have new combo?
00:32:782 (1) - here as well. new combo to make it look better? because new combo should be on 00:32:560 (3) instead, and no nc on 00:33:226 (1) but on 00:33:448 (2)
00:34:782 (4,1,2) - awkward pattern
01:08:761 (3,4) - why slider 4 is slowed down? I dont think its obvious based on the music

Insane

00:11:448 (2) - move further from slider 3 (and maybe closer to slider 1)
00:38:560 (2) - move further from slider 1
I've noticed pretty much all of your sliders are straight lines. Is this intentional? I feel like some places could use different shapes to emphasize sounds, like 00:44:115 (1)
00:51:226 (1) - same here
00:55:226 (2) - new combo to be consistent
01:06:095 (1,2) - fast slider and it's going the opposite direction, move slider 2 to the right so it's a bit better maybe

Extra

This is a HUGE difficulty jump from Insane. Maybe it isn't a problem for the set, but it's very obvious that the gap between these diffs is large.
00:02:115 (4,1,2,3) - this is a large distance to go from repeating 1/4 slider to triple
00:04:115 (3) - new combo
00:13:337 (1,2,3) - I feel like this stack should be closer to the last note, the same way these two 00:12:115 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) are close together
00:20:448 (1,2,3) - same here
00:21:671 (1,2,3) - slight overlap with 00:21:448 (4) because the notes stacked. just move it away a bit
00:44:560 (3) - new combo on sliders like this because sv change?

Fenza's Extreme

00:04:782 (1) - no nc here
00:13:671 (6) - could maybe stack this under the last triple? and make it more obvious that it's a 3/4 leading into the next stream
00:17:670 (1) - no nc here
00:24:782 (1) - no nc here
00:25:836 (8,1) - why bigger spacing between the combos? there isn't a strong note here as far as I can tell. even if it's a small difference, it is noticeable while playing and looks a bit weird to me

Omnipotent

00:12:782 (5) - slider end is very strong note, shorten slider and put circle here?
00:19:560 (1) - not fitting to have this circle, either change 00:19:449 (5) to a slider that ends here, or leave out the note
01:01:650 (2) - new combo?

also did you intentionally put lots of new combos to give people more hp while playing? because for hp7 on a map like this, it's smart

this whole mapset is really polished for the complex song that it's for, not much to fix really. I can't say much about the last two difficulties because they are out of my playing range, so getting people to test them would probably be better for feedback. Good luck getting this ranked, it's a really sick mapset

Fenza

154 posts

Joined June 2013

Fenza 2016-11-09T20:23:14+00:00

Silverboxer wrote:
m4m

Fenza's Extreme
00:04:782 (1) - no nc here kk
00:13:671 (6) - could maybe stack this under the last triple? and make it more obvious that it's a 3/4 leading into the next stream i like it as it is
00:17:670 (1) - no nc hereaight
00:24:782 (1) - no nc here ^
00:25:836 (8,1) - why bigger spacing between the combos? there isn't a strong note here as far as I can tell. even if it's a small difference, it is noticeable while playing and looks a bit weird to me ive had a couple of complaints on this so i remade it entirely[/notice][notice]ce]

this whole mapset is really polished for the complex song that it's for, not much to fix really. I can't say much about the last two difficulties because they are out of my playing range, so getting people to test them would probably be better for feedback. Good luck getting this ranked, it's a really sick mapset

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-11-09T21:20:58+00:00

Silverboxer wrote:
m4m

Easy

00:27:893 (2) - could possibly shorten this to the next white tick? it sounds awkward when played how it is now, even though it matches the music better. consider it anyway I'd rather follow teh music.
00:35:004 (2) - same here ^
Hard

00:02:782 (5,1) - slider 5 should flow into circle 1? intense part is only during the next pattern, so I think this flow is a bit weird I did this to emphasize the lyrics more, and not cause overlaps.
00:03:893 (2,1) - hmmm ctrl g on the slider would be better to me but then you'd have to fix other stuff too I liek it how it is
00:29:893 (1,1,1,1) - why these all have new combo? To look clearner. Removed NC
00:32:782 (1) - here as well. new combo to make it look better? because new combo should be on 00:32:560 (3) instead, and no nc on 00:33:226 (1) but on 00:33:448 (2) Fixed
00:34:782 (4,1,2) - awkward pattern Rotated 00:35:004 (1,2,3,1,2) - so 00:34:782 (8,1) - weren't so close
01:08:761 (3,4) - why slider 4 is slowed down? I dont think its obvious based on the music Forgot to delete that point when I remapped that part
Insane

00:11:448 (2) - move further from slider 3 (and maybe closer to slider 1) Sure
00:38:560 (2) - move further from slider 1 Alrighty
I've noticed pretty much all of your sliders are straight lines. Is this intentional? I feel like some places could use different shapes to emphasize sounds, like 00:44:115 (1) Sure thing
00:51:226 (1) - same here Fixed
00:55:226 (2) - new combo to be consistent Done
01:06:095 (1,2) - fast slider and it's going the opposite direction, move slider 2 to the right so it's a bit better maybe Nah
Extra

This is a HUGE difficulty jump from Insane. Maybe it isn't a problem for the set, but it's very obvious that the gap between these diffs is large. There are ranked mapsets with gaps like this.
00:02:115 (4,1,2,3) - this is a large distance to go from repeating 1/4 slider to triple I never have trouble hitting it
00:04:115 (3) - new combo Sure thing
00:13:337 (1,2,3) - I feel like this stack should be closer to the last note, the same way these two 00:12:115 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) are close together Why?
00:20:448 (1,2,3) - same here ^
00:21:671 (1,2,3) - slight overlap with 00:21:448 (4) because the notes stacked. just move it away a bit Nice catch!
00:44:560 (3) - new combo on sliders like this because sv change? Done on both like these
Omnipotent

00:12:782 (5) - slider end is very strong note, shorten slider and put circle here? So many people have asked, so I did
00:19:560 (1) - not fitting to have this circle, either change 00:19:449 (5) to a slider that ends here, or leave out the note I like the diversity
01:01:650 (2) - new combo? Nah

also did you intentionally put lots of new combos to give people more hp while playing? because for hp7 on a map like this, it's smart Nope, just though it looked nicer. I've changed the HP a lot.

this whole mapset is really polished for the complex song that it's for, not much to fix really. I can't say much about the last two difficulties because they are out of my playing range, so getting people to test them would probably be better for feedback. Good luck getting this ranked, it's a really sick mapset

Thanks!

headphonewearer

788 posts

Joined October 2014

headphonewearer 2016-11-11T15:26:49+00:00

Silverboxer wrote:
Mappers's Normal

00:10:782 (3,1) - really intense part, maybe these sliders can not flow so smoothly? it would fit the part better i like the way it is
00:14:782 (3) - overlap with end of 00:13:004 (3) was meant to be a stack, fixed
00:21:893 (3,1) - put a note between these on 00:22:337 maybe no
00:44:782 (2,3) - move slider 3 down to flow better what that would just destroy the blanket i cri
00:49:226 (1,2,3,4) - this could either look better, or flow nicer from 1 to 2? it goes from hard angle between 1 and 2, and then straight line between 2, 3, and 4 its fine the way it is, a blanket, and a straight line. how could it get any better

Thanks!

lol

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zev

462 posts

Joined September 2015

zev 2016-11-18T14:43:21+00:00

queue

all lower diffs
have you considered slidertick 2
So the sliders feel more in sync with the drums

insane
00:10:337 (2,3,4) - slightly lift this up between these two circles 00:09:448 (1,2) - it makes sense

00:13:115 (2) - pretty sure this reads like 1/4 x:321 y:133 i would just slap a lot of spacing on these patterns, the slow slider allows enough time for a jump

00:22:782 (1,2) - unsnapped ends

00:24:337 (2) - x:129 y:185

00:29:004 (2) - scream and downbeat, might want to differentiate something,

00:29:448 (1) - nc

00:32:560 (1) - should have larger spacing emphasize, what are these nc's based on? shouldn't this be nc'd

maybe you can increase slider sv on the reverse sliders when the downbeat lands as a form of emphasize.

00:35:115 (3) - circle?

00:40:282 (3) - no 1/4 drums here

00:41:448 (2) - these should end on a red tick, so player knows its 1/2

fenza

hmm resnap all notes? i think some notes are unsnapped by a few ms

00:05:337 (3) - x:119 y:132

00:05:337 (3) - x:452 y:178

01:09:205 (1,2,3,4) - these feel just like whack-a-mole cause the song doesn't change that much

00:26:893 (4) - clap should be clickable for consistency

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2016-11-18T22:20:41+00:00

zev wrote:
queue
all lower diffs
have you considered slidertick 2
So the sliders feel more in sync with the drums I have, but I don't like it as much

insane
00:10:337 (2,3,4) - slightly lift this up between these two circles 00:09:448 (1,2) - it makes sense Nah, it'll mess up the blanket

00:13:115 (2) - pretty sure this reads like 1/4 x:321 y:133 i would just slap a lot of spacing on these patterns, the slow slider allows enough time for a jump I like the way it is

00:22:782 (1,2) - unsnapped ends The spacing would be too big

00:24:337 (2) - x:129 y:185 Too close

00:29:004 (2) - scream and downbeat, might want to differentiate something, It's mapped on the drums

00:29:448 (1) - nc There's nothing there

00:32:560 (1) - should have larger spacing emphasize, what are these nc's based on? shouldn't this be nc'd

maybe you can increase slider sv on the reverse sliders when the downbeat lands as a form of emphasize. This is a lower-end insane. The spacing it fine.

00:35:115 (3) - circle? There's a small drum note. I might make 00:35:004 (2) - into a slider if this is brought up in the future!

00:40:282 (3) - no 1/4 drums here There 100% is. Why would the drummer stop playing for 1/4? And if you delete the note and listen to it on 1/4, there's sound.

00:41:448 (2) - these should end on a red tick, so player knows its 1/2 It's OD 7.5, they shouldn't have trouble. None of the people who play tested it had any trouble with it either.

Thanks for the mod! Even though I didn't change anything, it's always good to know what other people think about my map, and what they would do to fix it

Halfslashed

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Halfslashed 2017-01-19T22:49:26+00:00

NM from my queue, a bit late.

I should specify that I only will likely pass over anime TV sizes or something like that but whatever.

[General]
Your spread has a massive gap, not just in star rating, but rhythm density. Your Extra difficulty has stuff like half screen jumps and 1/4 patterns of 3-10 circles in a row, while your Insane doesn't even have 3 consecutive clickable circles, and has extremely low 1/2 spacing. I doubt this would be able to get ranked without another difficulty, and honestly, i'd personally enjoy this set a lot more if there was something for my skill range.

If you take this advice, a diff with more spacing and clickable circles than present (Think "alternate style" maps), maybe introducing a few triples, would work really well here.

Extra

00:06:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I don't understand this. What makes 1/4 repeats play well is that they're predictable in how long you would have to hold them. The repeats here are both unevenly long, and there isn't anything here that deserves the kind of emphasis present due to it being alternating 1/2 guitar and drum tones. Consider using 1/4 sliders with 3 repeats instead, along with circles: https://halfslashed.s-ul.eu/6OfDvtr8
00:10:337 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - NC spam. If you're indicating an intensity increase, do something with the spacing or movement.
00:13:004 (1,2) - Spacing is really high here. Given that everything else is stacked and the gaps are 1/1, you can provide proper emphasis without such large spacing, please nerf.
00:12:115 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - No real reason to NC both of these. It's a recurring problem in this map that NCing isn't consistent. Try to keep to a 1 NC per measure (every big white tick) and vary that depending on the intensity.
00:14:782 (3) - It's a calm section, I get that, but switching this out for 3 circles would represent the drums and vocals better without drastically increasing the intensity, since it is 1/1.
00:19:004 (1,2,1) - Wide angle. I don't really see you using these too often, so it's worth making sharper.
00:21:448 (4,3) - Blanket off.
00:25:671 (4,5) - Intensity increase not represented here.
00:26:115 (6) - I don't think this fits as part of the previous pattern since it's musically pretty different from the previous sliders.
00:53:671 (1,2,3,4,5) - You increased spacing of the previous burst, why not this one too? Intensity is definitely higher.
01:01:428 (5,6,7,8) - Intensity decreases for these drums, you should replace these with a 1/4 repeat.
01:08:095 (4) - This 1/1 repeat kills the intensity here. If you're going to vary the rhythm, you should do it in a way that keeps the current feeling of the song.

Playfield usage is awful here: https://halfslashed.s-ul.eu/brWPO0ST.

Insane

00:05:004 (1,2,3,4,1) - I hate overlapping 1/2. Intensity justifies higher for this difficulty as well. This would require a buff for other spacings as well.
00:22:782 (1,2) - Unsnapped sliders.
00:29:448 (2,3,4) - What is this spacing...
00:45:671 (1,2,3) - Spacing like this is very deceptive, as the player has seen overlapping 1/2, but this is much lower in a more intense section, so it is easier to misread as 1/4.

Playfield and NC issues like the Extra.

Hard

00:02:115 (3,4) - This entry angle isn't very good, since it doesn't follow the circular flow you're making here.
00:05:671 (4,3,4) - Square would be much cooler if these had even visual distance.
00:06:782 (1) - I don't like the way objects are overlapping this. Doesn't look like an overlapping in an orderly fashion.
00:08:560 (1,2) - Stuff like this is also too close. Player won't notice this kind of overlap, but it takes a way from any aesthetic concepts you might be trying to show.
00:20:448 (1,2) - Blanket.
00:35:448 (3,2,3) - Even visual distance isn nice here too. Gets rid of that unsightly overlap.

More playfield usage issues.

I'll stop here. A lot of work needs to be done, and not something I can entirely help you with. I couldn't really find any sort of structure in these diffs to use as a guideline, so I mainly just pointed out things that "polish" the map but won't address the fundamental issues, which are really up to you.

Good luck!

Hullahopp

341 posts

Joined April 2014

Hullahopp 2017-05-20T19:30:57+00:00

Such 9 star
It lags in my editor

Blobbability

126 posts

Joined November 2015

Blobbability 2017-07-16T07:20:38+00:00

This map has so much in common with Mazzerin's mapping style. The stream patterns are kinda like his. But I really like this map.

Regarding Omnipotent, some jumps seem just completely out of place and just FREAKING huge. But I don't get why at 00:05:004 , the spacing of each 2nd jump seems to be randomly varying. Since the pitch of the song is increasing, I'd maybe assume that the spacing should increase accordingly for each (1,2) pair. Instead, your spacing seems to just randomly shrink on 00:06:115 (1,2). I didn't really understand how this part reflects the music other than the rhythm.

00:08:782 (3,1) What's with that flow. Really uncomfortable, and completely contradicting what was going on before hand. You were following a circular flow, why'd you suddenly break it out of nowhere?

00:32:337: Classic Mazzerin

00:37:837: Hella weird overlap on a broken rhythm. Most will read that 00:37:893 (1) circle as a click on 00:37:782 instead. Distinguish the patterns if a different rhythm is present.

Really interesting mapping though. Like the thoughts.

Gl mapping.

HML

343 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

HML 2017-07-16T08:21:27+00:00

srijanfromsd wrote:
This map has so much in common with Mazzerin's mapping style. The stream patterns are kinda like his. But I really like this map.

Regarding Omnipotent, some jumps seem just completely out of place and just FREAKING huge. But I don't get why at 00:05:004 , the spacing of each 2nd jump seems to be randomly varying. Since the pitch of the song is increasing, I'd maybe assume that the spacing should increase accordingly for each (1,2) pair. Instead, your spacing seems to just randomly shrink on 00:06:115 (1,2). I didn't really understand how this part reflects the music other than the rhythm. This is a very complex part of the song. It goes up, the down, then up and down, in pitch. I mapped it accordingly. I did make 00:06:115 (1,2) - more spaced though.

00:08:782 (3,1) What's with that flow. Really uncomfortable, and completely contradicting what was going on before hand. You were following a circular flow, why'd you suddenly break it out of nowhere? The entire map plays uncomfortable. I wanted it to.

00:32:337: Classic Mazzerin

00:37:837: Hella weird overlap on a broken rhythm. Most will read that 00:37:893 (1) circle as a click on 00:37:782 instead. Distinguish the patterns if a different rhythm is present. None of the play testers I have had a problem (GayzMcgee, Ceptin, Monko2k ect). This is because of the NC's instilled 00:37:893 (1,1) - which instinctively grabs the attention of the player.

Really interesting mapping though. Like the thoughts.

Gl mapping.

Thanks

LezHuarez

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Joined January 2017

LezHuarez 2017-10-25T02:20:56+00:00

I really like this map pls rank this

LezHuarez

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LezHuarez 2018-04-10T08:29:39+00:00

Please make this loved

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