I am not going to link the video here, but you can see the URL in one of the screenshots. Keep in mind that the video is
a) not pornographic, but of medical nature which is also why it is allowed on youtube
b) neither linked nor posted on this site
thanks for your consideration, mods.
Introduction: How this series came to be
(skip if uninterested)
Description of the video
a woman is giving birth. She is in a medical environment, with nurses to her aid. The to-be mother is in a lot of pain, but is able to finish the process during the 7 minutes long video.
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Moving on to the comment section (its fucking messy)
In this thread, I will mostly focus on what the women (aka 95% of the serious posters) had to say. Most of the other comments were trolls getting their kicks from provocation, or just people that joked around. Neither is particularly interesting. Here it goes!
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- Pain
Most of the commentators were afraid to go through the same pain. Opinions on whether the pain is worth it differed greatly, but most women seemed averse to the idea of giving birth. This is not surprising, as the video can be quite shocking.
- Hypocrisy regarding sympathy
Some of the women complained about a lack of sympathy from men, which often resulted in them wishing for men to suffer from the same pain. Trying to achieve sympathy through inflicting excruciating pain on 50% of the population (which is one of the most unsympathetic acts I've ever heard of), seems a bit hypocritical to me, but these people were generally unable to see the irony. If you want more sympathy, this is not the way to go. Putting someone through horrible pain because "that'll teach them", is a very questionable method.
Wishing for everyone to suffer instead of nobody to suffer is a very sick and twisted way to satisfy ones desire for justice.
- The "miracle" of childbirth
I can get behind calling life (or consciousness, rather) a miracle, but most people seemed to comment on the process of pushing the baby out.
Many people called childbirth a miracle. A miracle is something unnatural that can not be explained in any rational way. Childbirth is probably one of the most un-miraculous things there is, as it is one of complex life's very cornerstones, and it is also one of the things that has been explained most thoroughly. If you think of that as magical, everything can be called a miracle.
- Denial of a very ugly reality
Many comments stated that the video was beautiful to watch. I disagree. I personally don't enjoy people screaming their lungs out, and I'm sure the people that commented also don't enjoy bingewatching the latest ISIS-execution videos. However, seeing this woman suffering for 7 minutes, bleeding, squirming, begging for it to stop..
Childbirth isn't pretty.
The comment above is particularly amazing, because you can see the conflicting ideas so clearly (unnoticed by the crowd).
1) Childbirth is not nice looking
2) Childbirth is beautiful to see
People don't like facing ugly realities, so they tend to start rationalizing, denying or ignoring them instead, as that is easier than admitting that (for example) childbirth is both disgusting and horrifying to watch. There is blood, screaming, pain, and a present risk of giving birth to a corpse.
The beautiful part may follow after the process of giving birth is completed though. But it is definitely not the process itself.
- Respect
There were many calls for respect. While I can get behind the idea that putting yourself in pain for someone else's benefit (or general self-sacrifice), is something worth respecting, I don't think that it quite applies to childbirth.
If the mother planned her pregnancy, you can assume that it is something that she really, really desired, in which case the pain is a calculated disadvantage that she accepted for herself to get to the better parts (raising the child, supposedly).
If she didn't plan it, the situation changes drastically. Being in pain because of an accident isn't something that is generally respected. You get sympathy for it, unless it was a really stupid accident, but not respect. Unless, you are able to cope with big continuous amounts of pain in a fascinatingly good manner. If that is something that can be applied to childbirth is questionable, as most women seem to cope with it exceptionally well.
tl;dr: People in this comment section were generally pain-averse, lacked sympathy, thought of the most natural process as miraculous, were in denial over a very ugly reality, and had strange ideas about respect.
Thats about all! Going into the underlying mechanics behind each of these behavioral patterns would take a much longer time, so I'm not going to do that. It's interesting enough to share these insights. Discuss!
You can recommend videos for the next part if you have something interesting too.
I also commented once on YT. You get 10 points if you can find my comment. Don't watch if you're under 18 though, there is a female part in the video and you will literally die when you see it while not being at least 18.
Bonus:
a) not pornographic, but of medical nature which is also why it is allowed on youtube
b) neither linked nor posted on this site
thanks for your consideration, mods.
(skip if uninterested)
SPOILER
I was hanging out with a couple of friends tonight and in one of our half drunken/high conversations we discussed the stuff that turns up on Youtube. Obviously, with a site this big, you will be able to find basically everything, but one thing is still strictly banned: Porn.
Turns out there is one case where explicit nudity is tolerated though, and that is medical videos.
Now. As the discussion went on, we were wondering if there were people watching these medical videos who were actually getting turned on by them, aka using women giving birth on youtube (or similar) as their go-to porn.
Curiosity got the better of me, so I followed through and read through lots of comments.
I found many interesting things in the comment section, so I decided to make this into a series where I shed some light on what people reveal to us under the cloak of partial anonymity. This series is not supposed to be about the porn-parts, but rather about comment-sections in general.
Turns out there is one case where explicit nudity is tolerated though, and that is medical videos.
Now. As the discussion went on, we were wondering if there were people watching these medical videos who were actually getting turned on by them, aka using women giving birth on youtube (or similar) as their go-to porn.
Curiosity got the better of me, so I followed through and read through lots of comments.
I found many interesting things in the comment section, so I decided to make this into a series where I shed some light on what people reveal to us under the cloak of partial anonymity. This series is not supposed to be about the porn-parts, but rather about comment-sections in general.
Description of the video
a woman is giving birth. She is in a medical environment, with nurses to her aid. The to-be mother is in a lot of pain, but is able to finish the process during the 7 minutes long video.
Moving on to the comment section (its fucking messy)
In this thread, I will mostly focus on what the women (aka 95% of the serious posters) had to say. Most of the other comments were trolls getting their kicks from provocation, or just people that joked around. Neither is particularly interesting. Here it goes!
Most of the commentators were afraid to go through the same pain. Opinions on whether the pain is worth it differed greatly, but most women seemed averse to the idea of giving birth. This is not surprising, as the video can be quite shocking.
Some of the women complained about a lack of sympathy from men, which often resulted in them wishing for men to suffer from the same pain. Trying to achieve sympathy through inflicting excruciating pain on 50% of the population (which is one of the most unsympathetic acts I've ever heard of), seems a bit hypocritical to me, but these people were generally unable to see the irony. If you want more sympathy, this is not the way to go. Putting someone through horrible pain because "that'll teach them", is a very questionable method.
Wishing for everyone to suffer instead of nobody to suffer is a very sick and twisted way to satisfy ones desire for justice.
I can get behind calling life (or consciousness, rather) a miracle, but most people seemed to comment on the process of pushing the baby out.
Many people called childbirth a miracle. A miracle is something unnatural that can not be explained in any rational way. Childbirth is probably one of the most un-miraculous things there is, as it is one of complex life's very cornerstones, and it is also one of the things that has been explained most thoroughly. If you think of that as magical, everything can be called a miracle.
Many comments stated that the video was beautiful to watch. I disagree. I personally don't enjoy people screaming their lungs out, and I'm sure the people that commented also don't enjoy bingewatching the latest ISIS-execution videos. However, seeing this woman suffering for 7 minutes, bleeding, squirming, begging for it to stop..
Childbirth isn't pretty.
The comment above is particularly amazing, because you can see the conflicting ideas so clearly (unnoticed by the crowd).
1) Childbirth is not nice looking
2) Childbirth is beautiful to see
People don't like facing ugly realities, so they tend to start rationalizing, denying or ignoring them instead, as that is easier than admitting that (for example) childbirth is both disgusting and horrifying to watch. There is blood, screaming, pain, and a present risk of giving birth to a corpse.
The beautiful part may follow after the process of giving birth is completed though. But it is definitely not the process itself.
There were many calls for respect. While I can get behind the idea that putting yourself in pain for someone else's benefit (or general self-sacrifice), is something worth respecting, I don't think that it quite applies to childbirth.
If the mother planned her pregnancy, you can assume that it is something that she really, really desired, in which case the pain is a calculated disadvantage that she accepted for herself to get to the better parts (raising the child, supposedly).
If she didn't plan it, the situation changes drastically. Being in pain because of an accident isn't something that is generally respected. You get sympathy for it, unless it was a really stupid accident, but not respect. Unless, you are able to cope with big continuous amounts of pain in a fascinatingly good manner. If that is something that can be applied to childbirth is questionable, as most women seem to cope with it exceptionally well.
tl;dr: People in this comment section were generally pain-averse, lacked sympathy, thought of the most natural process as miraculous, were in denial over a very ugly reality, and had strange ideas about respect.
Thats about all! Going into the underlying mechanics behind each of these behavioral patterns would take a much longer time, so I'm not going to do that. It's interesting enough to share these insights. Discuss!
You can recommend videos for the next part if you have something interesting too.
I also commented once on YT. You get 10 points if you can find my comment. Don't watch if you're under 18 though, there is a female part in the video and you will literally die when you see it while not being at least 18.
Bonus: