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Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT [Osu|CatchTheBeat]

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_Meep_
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, 26 March 2017 at 7:44:37 AM

Artist: Hotaru Murasaki
Title: Re:TrymenT
Source: Re:LieF~親愛なるあなたへ~
Tags: visual novel short レリーフ dear you shin'ainaru anata e Eroge DTM9 Nowa 619 Opening Rask opening Re:LieF~DeaR YoU~ re tryment Sinnoh Ascendance Yaleufeu
BPM: 190
Filesize: 22349kb
Play Time: 01:35
Difficulties Available:
  1. 619's NormaL (2.15 stars, 168 notes)
  2. Ascendance's DreaM (5.31 stars, 284 notes)
  3. Hard (3.31 stars, 235 notes)
  4. Insane (4.89 stars, 290 notes)
  5. Nowa's FloweR (5.59 stars, 345 notes)
  6. Sinnoh's RaiN (4.38 stars, 291 notes)
  7. Yaleufeu's EasY (1.53 stars, 114 notes)
Download: Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT
Download: Hotaru Murasaki - Re:TrymenT (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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TOYBOT 1 - 0 MEEP

I don't see this going anywhere,and I am sad that I have to love this
I apologise to everyone, you too Mir.

Hard,Insane by _Meep_
Easy by yaleufeu (other gd dropped) (rip dad)
Normal by 619 (op and nice guy)
Nowa's Flower by DTM9 Nowa (no desc xd)
Rain by Sinnoh (dank memer)
DreaM by senor Ascendance (random god)

There was a small misunderstanding of roles in the thread in page 6 and hopefully everyone understands that the only person thats suffers from this is me(and probably yoshimaro who took my place ;w;), not the GDers.

http://rask-soft.com/product/first/product/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhlf6Sm2y4

BN MAGNET PLS COME
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TOYBOT 1 - 0 MEEP


TESTPLAYERZ :
SPOILER
Those who have two links represent them playing the first version and the second version(as of 17/10/2016)

[Chillaxmaeng]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6268995

[RyanGBW]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6265852

[Planecakes]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6269091
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414372

[Noobish]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6269044

[likejaxirl]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6269184
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6354540

[Ket]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6269254

[- Neon -]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271759

[Suguri]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271596

[Dark Flame]
https://puu.sh/rBBnb/c396158643.jpg

[Spork Lover]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272152

[Sugoi Desu]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272277

[handsome]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272451

[Evergreenz]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272686

[My Angel Kuon]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272779

[DTM9 Nowa]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6272810

[Yukiyo]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6273468
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6354277

[Cheryl]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6273796
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6455523

[_Everlasting]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6274158

[M a c]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6274156

[neonat]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6275324

[jakomo73]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6276795

[Elegant Loli]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6276956

[Stingy]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278131
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6474563

[Momiji]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278166

[blizzardice touchscreen LOL ]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278394

[Blue Dragon]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6280877

[Spaghetti]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6280989

[ExKyu]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281013

[Mentai]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281057
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6354513

[GSBlank]
Im getting more and more forgetful omg

[Lukiose]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6281418

[PLZ ENJOY GAME]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290057

[fallenstarxz]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290077

By this point you can see that most of the players are singaporean,becasue I choose to be an asshole and bother all of them c;
[Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Dame Desu]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290108

[OpticalLuck]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290190

[-Lockon-]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290290

[Alalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalacartx]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6290345

[Xilver]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6292026

[-ErisiaAvide-]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6338329

[YewJoeChai]
http://prnt.sc/cv4psr

[RemixGen]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6350676

[R8nDom]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6350693

[DarknessStealth]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6350708

[Raen]
http://puu.sh/rMXi0/64ac806d76.jpg

[BlueKrait]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6354441

[Nao Tomori]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6357280

[Nicholas]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6357287

[Muicat]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6357965

[-Kiyo]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6357991

[JokThree]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6358024

[Raindrop]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6358117

[Accurian]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6359782

[Dumii]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6359839

[Lortus]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6360179

[Renblo]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6394567

[Reazen]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6405468

[burntcedar13]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6414307

[Doma Umaru]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6415196

[Pentori]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6455586

[Seere]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6455554

[Kashima]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6464728

[josephT631]
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6474483

[Sinnoh]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6479867

[Epicmouse]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6480178

[ENE]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6480604

[sinn]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6577784

[Chaos]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6617945

[SolariS]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6636734

[Rizia]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6660400

[3xMidnight]
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6694929

i lost count :(
And to all the other testplayers who played the easy,normal,hard and flower <3 THANKS
Daoski
hey there, saw we are mapping the same song and i drove by :]

Insane
00:04:465 (1,1) - y dis different from 00:01:939 (1,2,3) - ;_; i dont think that blank pause in notes is ideal

00:06:991 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - now dis optional but isnt this a bit sudden compared to sliders u use before + music intensity didnt rise high enough for dis i dont think

00:27:202 (8) - u ignored the red tick at 00:27:360 when theres a bass note in music? idk if intentional or not but u dont have to change, just highlight it for u to see

00:32:254 (1,2) - did u get lazy D: cmon bro step it up kek

00:42:360 (1,2) - why pause inbetween when u dont pause in same spot for later parts like 00:44:886 (1,2,3) -

00:49:623 (4,5) - HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE sudden change in spacing, maybe not have dis since you dont do it once :p

00:53:649 (5,6) - im blind, that overlap kill me a little

00:57:991 (3) - move to x:328 y:320

01:17:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - just highlighting the last section so i can explain a couple things:
not that its bad or anything but i think some of those circles u place following the music are unnecessary... it doesnt play poorly at all but idk i think u could focus on vocals only and have it more enjoyable than technical to play.

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR MAP FELLOW SONG FRIEND :)
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Daoski wrote:

hey there, saw we are mapping the same song and i drove by :]

Insane
00:04:465 (1,1) - y dis different from 00:01:939 (1,2,3) - ;_; i dont think that blank pause in notes is ideal The sliders play out the piano notes in the background, so there is a pause between the notes, as there is with the piano notes in the song

00:06:991 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - now dis optional but isnt this a bit sudden compared to sliders u use before + music intensity didnt rise high enough for dis i dont think I feel it's ok -.-

00:27:202 (8) - u ignored the red tick at 00:27:360 when theres a bass note in music? idk if intentional or not but u dont have to change, just highlight it for u to see Im mapping as much to the piano as possible,the red tick has a very slight and soft sound,so it feels negligible and not needed to map

00:32:254 (1,2) - did u get lazy D: cmon bro step it up kek Fine -.-

00:42:360 (1,2) - why pause inbetween when u dont pause in same spot for later parts like 00:44:886 (1,2,3) - So that players would be able to know that the song is getting faster and prepare for 00:46:307 (1,2,3) -

00:49:623 (4,5) - HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE sudden change in spacing, maybe not have dis since you dont do it once :p It's ok since you can hear a sopund that sounds somewhat like a triple here. so yea. the jump isn't that abd either since I aligned it to go straight to the circles

00:53:649 (5,6) - im blind, that overlap kill me a little You can hear that slight sizz in the music,so that can't be ignored

00:57:991 (3) - move to x:328 y:320 Fixed, nice spot ;o

01:17:728 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - just highlighting the last section so i can explain a couple things:
not that its bad or anything but i think some of those circles u place following the music are unnecessary... it doesnt play poorly at all but idk i think u could focus on vocals only and have it more enjoyable than technical to play. Fixed

GOOD LUCK ON YOUR MAP FELLOW SONG FRIEND :)
Thanks for modding bud
Spork Lover
I love kd xdddddd
09:39 _Meep_: can u help me testplay a map
09:39 _Meep_: sporkk
09:40 Spork Lover: sure, just a sec
09:40 Spork Lover: :)
09:40 *_Meep_ is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]]
09:40 _Meep_: tell me when ur ready
09:40 _Meep_: <3
09:40 Spork Lover: ^-^
09:43 _Meep_: dat relax
09:43 _Meep_: lol
09:43 Spork Lover: Yeah I used mouse lol
09:44 Spork Lover: 00:09:517 (1,1) - there's a pretty audible sound and pretty nice feedback on the red tick
09:44 _Meep_: is it ok?
09:44 Spork Lover: So doing extended sliders isn't really optimal here
09:44 Spork Lover: Yeah there seems to be good ideas in the map overall
09:44 Spork Lover: ^^
09:44 _Meep_: yay :D
09:44 _Meep_: I tried to add in good flow
09:44 _Meep_: after watching pishi's youtube vid
09:45 Spork Lover: 00:25:939 (3,4,5,6,7) - this not being the same as 00:23:412 (3,4,5,6) - is really odd xd
09:45 Spork Lover: You switch focus here on what you want to follow
09:45 _Meep_: XD
09:46 _Meep_: nono
09:46 _Meep_: the 2nd one(the earlier one) has the very distinct like 'taq' sounds in the background
09:46 Spork Lover: 00:44:570 (9,1) - this is a time where the extended slider works
09:46 _Meep_: while the other one doesn't
09:46 _Meep_: I know it feels uncomfortable,but yea
09:46 Spork Lover: Yeah, the 2nd one should still get a switch up of some sort though xd
09:47 Spork Lover: 'cause it does feel really awkward lol
09:47 Spork Lover: 00:49:623 (4,5) - single tap first, then kickslider
09:47 _Meep_: kk,I'll change it to sliders
09:47 _Meep_: XD
09:47 Spork Lover: Is a better lead-in for the downbeat
09:48 Spork Lover: https://gyazo.com/9c8b7d1270408d96db9e44b3fab7afc5
09:48 _Meep_: https://gyazo.com/c93a262ae20660a53ce64093fc59a781
09:48 _Meep_: ??
09:48 _Meep_: Yea we thought of the same thing then
09:48 _Meep_: XD
09:48 _Meep_: kk
09:48 Spork Lover: 00:52:307 (9,1) - you can do a triple here because of the new kickslider
09:49 _Meep_: https://gyazo.com/eda26af7106fb934131a08116fb0a62a
09:50 _Meep_: I don't think I want the triple there
09:50 _Meep_: There isn't anything that would play the triples in the music and it feels awkward
09:50 _Meep_: 00:53:412 (4,5,6) - not too sure whether this is ok tho
09:50 Spork Lover: If you question yourself, it probably isn't
09:50 Spork Lover: ^^
09:50 _Meep_: No,as in it plays out the sizz
09:51 _Meep_: but Im not too sure if its fine with the players
09:51 _Meep_: most don't have a problem,but are surprised by it
09:51 Spork Lover: yeah
09:51 Spork Lover: It's reading
09:51 _Meep_: 00:53:649 - theres a slight sizz here,its distinct
09:51 Spork Lover: but your map isn't a reading map
09:51 Spork Lover: xd
09:51 _Meep_: lol XD
09:51 Spork Lover: because of the way you made iit
09:52 Spork Lover: Actually a decent map :D
09:52 _Meep_: :DDDD
09:52 Spork Lover: There aren't that many major issues ^^
09:52 _Meep_: YAY
09:52 _Meep_: I GOT PRAISED BY SPORK
09:52 _Meep_: happy day ^_^
09:52 _Meep_: but thanks <3
09:52 Spork Lover: There's definitely oppotunities to improve the flow even more obviously, there always is xd
09:52 _Meep_: If u want to get ur kds u can post da chat XD
09:52 Spork Lover: But yeah, it's looking fine :D
09:52 _Meep_: flow is a subjective thing
09:52 _Meep_: so meh -.-
09:53 Spork Lover: Yeah it is xd
09:53 Spork Lover: I like fancy patterns for my own maps for example when it comes to flow
09:53 Spork Lover: lol
09:53 _Meep_: can u play the map 1 more time? but without relax
09:53 Spork Lover: I can't
09:53 Spork Lover: 'cause mom is sleeping
09:53 Spork Lover: lol
09:53 _Meep_: oh lol
09:53 _Meep_: wait then play with relax one more time after I update this
09:53 Spork Lover: sure
09:53 Spork Lover: btw
09:53 Spork Lover: The AR and OD
09:53 _Meep_: ?
09:54 Spork Lover: don't really match
09:54 Spork Lover: OD8 and AR9
09:54 Spork Lover: Is good for an insane diff like this
09:54 Spork Lover: hp is fine
09:54 _Meep_: I'll put 8.3
09:54 _Meep_: considering the AR is diff as well
09:54 Spork Lover: ye that's fine
Daoski
FRIEND TAKE ME AWAY

Daoski's Normal
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lul
jabronski
IRC mod

2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: blizzard
2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: can u help me testplay ,3
2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: <3
2016-10-09 05:28 blizzardice: wh
2016-10-09 05:28 blizzardice: who r u
2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: wh?
2016-10-09 05:28 blizzardice: jk
2016-10-09 05:28 blizzardice: what
2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: ACTION runs
2016-10-09 05:28 _Meep_: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT]
2016-10-09 05:29 _Meep_: #touchscreenthread
2016-10-09 05:29 _Meep_: lol
2016-10-09 05:31 _Meep_: naisu play
2016-10-09 05:31 _Meep_: :D
2016-10-09 05:31 blizzardice: ok so
2016-10-09 05:31 blizzardice: 00:04:465 (1) -
2016-10-09 05:32 blizzardice: why is this an extra repeat
2016-10-09 05:32 _Meep_: piano
2016-10-09 05:32 _Meep_: plays 4 times,then 3
2016-10-09 05:32 _Meep_: thats why the sliders are diff
2016-10-09 05:32 blizzardice: 00:04:465 (1,1) - can you space them a little more at least lol
2016-10-09 05:33 _Meep_: I dont think the spacing is needed,idk why,no matter what i tried,spacing it didn't feel good -_-
2016-10-09 05:33 _Meep_: as in it wouldn't give that calm and soothing effect of a slow part of a song
2016-10-09 05:33 _Meep_: idk how to describe
2016-10-09 05:34 _Meep_: bcuz DS is pretty constant for the notes before,I thought it'd be better to have it close as well,even if the timing was far off
2016-10-09 05:34 blizzardice: im just pointing it out because it was hard to read
2016-10-09 05:34 _Meep_: Sorry uwu
2016-10-09 05:34 blizzardice: and this is just insane diff right?
2016-10-09 05:34 _Meep_: Yea
2016-10-09 05:35 _Meep_: Im gona have a extra GD after he/she's done
2016-10-09 05:35 _Meep_: looks alot harder XD ik
2016-10-09 05:35 blizzardice: 00:13:781 (6) - you're following the drum sound on this one for the wiggle?
2016-10-09 05:35 _Meep_: yea
2016-10-09 05:36 blizzardice: http://i.imgur.com/bUJIggZ.png i'm hearing the sound as about there
2016-10-09 05:36 blizzardice: wait nvm
2016-10-09 05:36 _Meep_: ??
2016-10-09 05:36 _Meep_: I cant see any image
2016-10-09 05:36 blizzardice: ignore that part lol
2016-10-09 05:37 _Meep_: nvm now I see it
2016-10-09 05:37 _Meep_: but ok
2016-10-09 05:37 blizzardice: in general this is really hard to read for an insane lol
2016-10-09 05:37 _Meep_: cs 4.4
2016-10-09 05:37 blizzardice: 00:27:044 (6,7) - nice pp jump xdxdxd
2016-10-09 05:37 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-09 05:38 blizzardice: 00:40:939 (2,3,4,5) - especially this
2016-10-09 05:38 blizzardice: is hard to read
2016-10-09 05:38 _Meep_: Hmm,any way to improve it?
2016-10-09 05:39 blizzardice: make 00:41:254 (3) - closer to the slider?
2016-10-09 05:39 _Meep_: should I place 00:41:570 (5) - at 312 268?
2016-10-09 05:40 blizzardice: wait why not end the slider on 3
2016-10-09 05:40 blizzardice: instead of the extra note
2016-10-09 05:40 _Meep_: olol
2016-10-09 05:40 _Meep_: wow,im stupid
2016-10-09 05:40 _Meep_: O_O
2016-10-09 05:40 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278452 does this look fine?
2016-10-09 05:41 blizzardice: uhh
2016-10-09 05:42 blizzardice: the piano for the 4 notes after
2016-10-09 05:42 blizzardice: 00:41:728 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-10-09 05:42 blizzardice: goes lower
2016-10-09 05:42 _Meep_: Oh
2016-10-09 05:42 _Meep_: I just noticed
2016-10-09 05:42 blizzardice: but im not sure how you're supposed to do 00:41:254 (3,4) -
2016-10-09 05:43 blizzardice: 00:42:360 (1,2) - theres an awkward pause between these 2 sliders
2016-10-09 05:43 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6278474
2016-10-09 05:44 blizzardice: where is 4
2016-10-09 05:44 blizzardice: the red one
2016-10-09 05:44 blizzardice: i cant tell lol
2016-10-09 05:44 _Meep_: in the start of the slider
2016-10-09 05:44 _Meep_: sorry XD
2016-10-09 05:45 _Meep_: it magically appeard there after I tried rotating
2016-10-09 05:45 _Meep_: so.. ;o
2016-10-09 05:45 blizzardice: i was thinking of the blue 3,4 having less spacing than red 1,2,3,4
2016-10-09 05:46 blizzardice: but im not sure how to fix that so you can leave it
2016-10-09 05:47 blizzardice: 00:49:623 (7,8) - for insane this is a REALLY fast jump
2016-10-09 05:47 _Meep_: Hmm
2016-10-09 05:47 _Meep_: -.-
2016-10-09 05:48 _Meep_: well,because the slider is in the direction of the notes,it'd be fine so long as they hold the slider to the note below
2016-10-09 05:48 blizzardice: if you took out 8 i think it would be better
2016-10-09 05:49 blizzardice: let me play this with mouse actually
2016-10-09 05:49 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-09 05:49 blizzardice: because i can only play insanes with mouse
2016-10-09 05:49 _Meep_: lol
2016-10-09 05:50 blizzardice: fuk
2016-10-09 05:52 blizzardice: 01:30:360 (2) - just wondering but does this represent anything?
2016-10-09 05:52 blizzardice: or is it just random squiggle slider
2016-10-09 05:52 _Meep_: ^
2016-10-09 05:52 blizzardice: oh
2016-10-09 05:53 _Meep_: I was bored,so i just went into grid size medium and did it XD
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: maybe you could make it into something prettier
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: like a flower
2016-10-09 05:53 _Meep_: ooo
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: just a suggestion
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: also
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4,1) - STACK
2016-10-09 05:53 blizzardice: PLEASE
2016-10-09 05:54 _Meep_: stacked :_:
2016-10-09 05:54 blizzardice: thx
2016-10-09 05:54 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-09 05:54 blizzardice: 01:03:044 (3,4,5,6) - this overlaps a lot and would be hard to read
2016-10-09 05:54 _Meep_: Its not that hard to read
2016-10-09 05:55 blizzardice: its bakc and forths too
2016-10-09 05:55 _Meep_: Once u play 4, 3 clears up
2016-10-09 05:55 _Meep_: Yea,it kinda breaks the flow a bit
2016-10-09 05:55 blizzardice: yea
2016-10-09 05:56 blizzardice: 01:04:781 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - sooooo fast
2016-10-09 05:56 _Meep_: gotta go fast
2016-10-09 05:56 blizzardice: but
2016-10-09 05:56 _Meep_: ?
2016-10-09 05:56 blizzardice: its insane
2016-10-09 05:56 blizzardice: ><
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: i seriously dont know why its an insane either -.-
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: the jumps
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: i planned it to be a 5* at least
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: feel like extra
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: like almost extra
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: ikr
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: LOL
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: but nop
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: this should be like a hard insane
2016-10-09 05:57 _Meep_: osu is like 'fak u u stay with 4*'
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: or smth
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: this is really difficult for an insane imo lol
2016-10-09 05:57 blizzardice: its only 4.5* according to osu lol
2016-10-09 05:58 blizzardice: 01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this looks pretty but a little less spacing
2016-10-09 05:59 blizzardice: 01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is REALLY spaced for insane ;;
2016-10-09 05:59 _Meep_: wait a min
2016-10-09 05:59 _Meep_: leme relog
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: there
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: now i can submit
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: to pending
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: my GDer finished
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: wooo ^_^
2016-10-09 06:00 blizzardice: nice
2016-10-09 06:00 blizzardice: the flower diff?
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: his is 5.43*
2016-10-09 06:00 _Meep_: yea
2016-10-09 06:00 blizzardice: coo
2016-10-09 06:01 blizzardice: can you fix the formatting on the testplayers
2016-10-09 06:01 _Meep_: formatting?
2016-10-09 06:01 blizzardice: http://i.imgur.com/8vQZCnS.png
2016-10-09 06:01 _Meep_: ? why
2016-10-09 06:01 blizzardice: you did something wrong there lol
2016-10-09 06:01 blizzardice: unless
2016-10-09 06:01 _Meep_: no
2016-10-09 06:01 _Meep_: I wanted it like that XD
2016-10-09 06:02 blizzardice: well it'd look better if you made the names clickable with the screenshot on the name
2016-10-09 06:02 blizzardice: just my opinion
2016-10-09 06:02 _Meep_: Oh
2016-10-09 06:02 _Meep_: Maybe i'll do that tmrw
2016-10-09 06:02 blizzardice: are you going to post this chatlog on forum so i can get kd
2016-10-09 06:02 blizzardice: owo
2016-10-09 06:02 _Meep_: u post it and u get ur kdss
2016-10-09 06:02 _Meep_: lol
2016-10-09 06:02 _Meep_: u helped on some notes
2016-10-09 06:03 blizzardice: 01:17:728 (1) - pretty fast for a slow part
2016-10-09 06:04 blizzardice: sv*
2016-10-09 06:04 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-09 06:04 blizzardice: 01:26:412 (7) - and this is close to going off screen
2016-10-09 06:05 blizzardice: 01:29:412 (3,4,5) - no repeat slider?
2016-10-09 06:05 _Meep_: nah no repeats <3
2016-10-09 06:05 blizzardice: ok~
Mir
M4M from my queue!

Nice song choice. :3 Formatted with top-to-bottom reading in mind. So I might say something in Normal or Hard that applies to all diffs.

Normal

Normal

  1. Consider revising new combos! I would put one at every downbeat at least, and most large sv changes should be NC’d.
  2. 00:17:096 (1,2) – Questionable object placement here. The reverse arrow will probably be hidden by most slider skins.
  3. 00:12:044 (1,2,3,4) – Maybe something like this instead?: https://puu.sh/rCLYx/e22adb71a2.mp4 Atm it looks kinda weird, and some objects could be placed slightly better.
  4. 00:22:149 – 00:39:833 – Feels really empty here. I think the player might get bored if there’s nothing much to click here. Consider Ncing at every downbeat as well, since the follow points look somewhat unappealing with such a long pause between notes.
  5. 00:44:886 (5,6) – Blanket!~
  6. 00:47:412 (1,2,3) – I’m confused as to what rhythm this is supposed to be following. Consider revising that part?
  7. 00:51:833 (5) – Double reverse sliders can throw players off, consider changing this to something else like two normal sliders.
  8. 00:57:517 (1,2) – Blanket!~
  9. 01:05:096 (7) – Really long multi-reverse slider. I think you can maybe make a more interesting pattern out of this. Especially considering the slider speed it may be hard for new players to keep up. Maybe something like this?: https://puu.sh/rCMuG/64df4378fd.mp4
  10. 01:08:886 (3,4) – This overlap looks unsightly. Maybe play around with it until you can get rid of it. I’d move 01:09:517 (4) to the left, personally.
  11. 01:10:781 (7,9) – Blanket these two? Or these two: 01:11:096 (8,9) ?
  12. 01:11:412 (9) – Another double reverse. ._.
  13. 01:17:096 (1) – I don’t know about stacking this under 01:16:307 (2). It could cause players to click too early since normal diffs are mostly about learning distance/tempo you know? If it’s so close players at this level may tend to click it as fast as possible.
  14. 01:24:675 (5,1) – Move 01:24:675 (5) to the right and blanket with 01:25:307 (1) to avoid overlap?

Hard

Hard

  1. Consider revising Ncs in this diff as well. Combos feel too long. Read what I said in Normal. Actually, do it for all difficulties.
  2. 00:04:465 (7) – The reverse tick misses the note I’m gonna assume you want to map. It’s on the red tick yet the reverse ticks is on a blue tick. How about this? https://puu.sh/rCMIC/a0b920802c.png
  3. 00:08:254 (1) – Double reverse. Could be two sliders or four circles, up to you, but I don’t really like the way it looks or plays. It seems too passive for the piano part. When playing I would have preferred to click more of the piano.
  4. 00:12:675 (3,4) – Blanket!
  5. 00:13:307 (5,6) - ^
  6. 00:14:254 (7) – I’d end this on a red tick instead of blue, easier and smoother to play.
  7. 00:17:096 (1,2) – Blanket! https://puu.sh/rCMTU/ea3e2379a1.png ?
  8. 00:17:570 (2,3) – Also idk about this stack, seems a little awkward to play. I don’t see a reason to stop flow here.
  9. 00:19:623 (1,2) - ^
  10. 00:25:939 (4) – Double reverse. ;-;
  11. 00:33:517 (5) - ^
  12. 00:39:833 (6,2) – I would try to change the shape of 00:40:939 (2) to avoid this overlap, but it’s up to you if you want to change it or not.
  13. 00:45:991 (5) – Ends on a very strong note. I’d remove the reverse tick and add something clickable at 00:47:412
  14. 00:51:202 (3,4) – Blanket!
  15. 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - – I’d do something like this instead: https://puu.sh/rCN7n/ab747791e3.png
  16. 00:57:517 (2,3) - Blanket?
  17. 00:58:465 (4) – Dunno about this stop here either. Breaks flow unnecessarily in my opinion.
  18. 00:59:728 (8,1) – Blanket!
  19. 00:57:991 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try this?: https://puu.sh/rCNh0/3a3c4d3a94.mp4
  20. 01:01:149 (4,6) – Not a fan of this overlap tbh.
  21. 01:02:254 (7,1) – Blanket!
  22. 01:07:307 (2,3) – Should be another like 01:06:991 (1) imo
  23. 01:08:886 (5,6) – Blanket!
  24. 01:10:781 (3,4) – Blanket?
  25. 01:14:570 (8,3) – Try stacking these somehow?
  26. 01:15:991 (4,5) – Again, not too big a fan of this overlap. ._.
  27. 01:17:728 (1,2) – Blanket!
  28. 01:18:833 (4) - ^
  29. 01:19:939 (1,2) - ^
  30. 01:20:728 (3,4) - ^
  31. 01:22:465 (1) – Ends on a pretty strong note. I’d put something clickable on the downbeat.
  32. 01:23:886 (1,2,3) – Symmetry! https://puu.sh/rCNs6/5e061053b2.png
  33. 01:27:833 (2,1) – Not a fan of this overlap either. ;-; 01:29:096 (1) also ends on a strong beat.

Insane+

Insane+

  1. Firstly, why insane + if there’s no insane? o.o
  2. 00:01:939 (1,2) – I’d ctrl+G these tbh, idk why but it looks better to me. (not both, one at a time xD)
  3. 00:04:465 (1) – Another double reverse asdjfasdf. I won’t mention any more but I strongly recommend changing these as they play weird and you map them to notes that could be better to play if they were clicked.
  4. 00:08:097 (2,3) – Inconsistent DS.
  5. 00:10:781 (1,2) – What is this massive jump for? o.o Consider nerfing?
  6. 00:22:781 (2,4) – Unsightly overlap. ;-;
  7. 00:27:833 (2,3) – Blanket?
  8. 00:29:096 (5,6,1,2) – These all overlap somehow. Maybe revise how you placed things in this part?
  9. 00:35:096 (2) – Misses piano on the red tick. Feels weird to play tbh, I’d end the slider on red rather than blue. I get that you’re mapping the vocals but this rhythm choice is questionable. x.x
  10. 00:37:623 (2,3) – Blanket!
  11. 00:41:412 (3,4,1,2,3,4) – Aaa this part screwed me up so much. If anything it should be spaced higher at the beginning and less towards the end since at the beginning the piano is more intense. Either way I didn’t like how that played when I tested it.
  12. 00:42:202 (4,1) – Inconsistent DS, unless it’s supposed to be a jump, in that case space it slightly more imo.
  13. 00:45:360 (3,5) – Blanket!
  14. 00:49:623 (7,8) – Wha? A triple would be fine here.
  15. 00:51:675 (5,6,7,8,9) – These jumps are pretty big for this section’s intensity. Nerf?
  16. 00:53:412 (4,5,6,7) – Horrible flow, will nearly always cause a combo break. In fact I might say it’s unplayable, but idk about that. What I would do: https://puu.sh/rCNUe/8f1a2edf8e.mp4
  17. All through the kiai time there are some flow breaks at the end of sliders where you have to stop to click a circle. I feel it plays weird and doesn’t really match the song very well. I’d consider moving those circles somewhere else.
  18. 01:03:517 (5,6) – Overlap. ;-;
  19. 01:10:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – About these… 01:10:465 (2,4) stack 4 with the end of 2. 01:10:465 (2,3) blanket these two? 01:11:097 (4,5) blanket these as well? 01:11:097 (4,6) stack 6 with 4’s end in a way that 01:11:412 (5,6) are symmetrical? This is hard to explain but in the end I get something like this: https://puu.sh/rCOah/d3fdea18aa.mp4
  20. 01:30:360 (7) – Now… I really don’t wanna pick on this because it’s really good but this: https://puu.sh/rCOcL/08ba8173c0.png . This just… idk it triggers me. You could also extend it to 01:32:886

Nowa’s Flower

Nowa’s Flower

  1. 00:13:781 (2) – Nazi blanket~
  2. 00:15:833 (1) – Removing this note would make this 00:15:991 (2,3,4) easier to play. (Also there’s no sound on that note. :3)
  3. 00:21:439 (2) – I’d lower this to even 10% volume.
  4. 00:32:096 – Note here?
  5. 00:41:412 (2,3,4,5) – Pretty big jumps for such a calm section. ._. Also 00:42:044 (1) why?
  6. 00:50:886 (4,2) – You could stack these.
  7. 01:27:754 (1) - https://puu.sh/rCOsG/32e044d9f2.png ?
  8. 01:30:360 (1) – Why reverse this? It looks weird if the reverse sits there. Maybe make the ending stand out a little more? Up to you really, I don’t think it looks too good. ._.

Good luck!
Louis Cyphre
[General]

- delete "Re:LieF" from tags it is already included in source.
- 00:00:00 - 00:10:781 - why did you use normal hitsound set instead of soft? It sounds too loud and doesn't fit at all
- 00:22:149 - 00:56:886 - ^
- Where are hitsounds?
- add easy difficulty

[Nowa's Flower]
AR -0.3~0.5 Too fast for such song.
Slider velocity is way too high. It doesn't fit to the music.
00:06:360 (3) - i don't really think it is needed to map such silent note.
00:21:439 (2) - it actually starts from 00:21:360
00:58:465 (5,6) - I don't hear any beats to approve those sliders. Why did you do that?
01:00:991 (4,5) - ^
01:03:123 (3) - ^
01:06:360 (1) - this slider is made in a special way. Why?
01:17:412 (5) - new combo due to spacing change
01:32:965 (1) - adjust the volume on the end of the slider till 5% with soft hitsound set

[Insane+]
Name this just [Insane] without those random symbols, please.
00:45:833 (4) - this note overlaps hp bar a bit.
00:46:465 (6) - new combo
00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) - overmapping
00:57:991 (3,4) - ^
01:03:833 (6) - new combo
01:04:781 (1) - no new combo
01:05:096 (2) - new combo
01:06:360 (6) - new combo
01:08:886 (6) - new combo
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmapping
01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
01:30:360 (7) - extend till white tick and keep symmetry
01:32:965 (1) - silence spinner

[Hard]
00:04:465 (7) - there are no sound on blue tick. It sounds completely off the rhythm. New combo also should be placed there.
00:45:991 (5) - ^
00:20:254 (3) - repeat slider is almost hidden by previous slider
01:32:965 (1) - silence the end of slider

[Normal]
00:06:991 (1,2,3) - why are they all different? What was the purpose to make it like that.
00:17:886 (2) - repeat slider is almost hidden
00:22:149 - ~ 00:39:833 - You should totally include more notes here, it is waaaay too empty for Normal.
00:43:623 (3) - fix the spacing
00:45:991 (7,8,9,1,2) - this is like a big mess. Remake to make everything readable for average players.
01:27:833 (1) - offscreen
01:32:965 (1) - silence the end of slider
Kantzm8
Hello, for M4M

General
Just the standard stuff for a new mapset, obv needs hitsounds and an easy difficulty (or something below 2 stars atleast).
Also combo colours.

Nowa's flower
00:02:412 (2) - This note is pretty high musically, i think you can add more spacing even though its the intro.
00:08:886 (3,3) - These slider could do well with slightly lower SV.
00:23:254 (4,2) - Unecessary overlap, even if its slight.
00:52:149 (5,1) - Heavy note and big white tick, this should have bigger spacing
01:28:939 (1) - I think this note is quite unecessary, it doesnt hit the "k" sound in the vocals that i think you were going for.

Insane+
Why is this called insane"+"? I mean youre free to call it what you want but i feel like insane+ implies that it is difficult for an insane which it isnt.
00:17:096 (1,2,3) - Why are these tilted differently?
00:18:675 (6,7) - This flows weird.
00:25:939 (4,5) - Copy and paste one of these and just ctrl+j to get the same tilt.
00:42:202 (4,1) - I think this can have even bigger spacing, its quite a change in the music.
00:42:833 - The vocals start here so i think that
makes more sense since you do map the vocals.
00:51:833 (6) - This note should be more spaced than 00:51:991 (7) - this note since it has a big vocal hit on it while the red tick doesnt.
00:51:991 (7,1) - This overlap looks off
00:54:360 (9) - Stack this with one of the notes from the triplet
00:55:149 (2,5,7) - Space these out slightly to avoid unecessary overlap
01:20:254 (1,2) - Make these the same design exactly with copy paste and then ctrl+h, ctrl+j

Hard
00:04:465 (7) - This should be NC seeing as how you've Nc'd the rest of the intro
00:20:096 (2,3) - This blanket is too close.
00:49:307 (5,7) - Is this stack meant to be off to make it easier to read? Otherwise, fix.
00:56:096 (8) - I think you can move this slightly to the left to make it flow better
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This might be too difficult to read for a Hard but im not sure tbh.
01:14:570 (8,3) - No reason for this stack to be off i think

Normal
BNs have told me in the past that Normal difficulties cant have changing slider velocities, i think its worth looking into.
Topic Starter
_Meep_

Miryle wrote:

M4M from my queue!

Nice song choice. :3 Formatted with top-to-bottom reading in mind. So I might say something in Normal or Hard that applies to all diffs.

Normal

Normal

  1. Consider revising new combos! I would put one at every downbeat at least, and most large sv changes should be NC’d.
  2. 00:17:096 (1,2) – Questionable object placement here. The reverse arrow will probably be hidden by most slider skins. Fixed
  3. 00:12:044 (1,2,3,4) – Maybe something like this instead?: https://puu.sh/rCLYx/e22adb71a2.mp4 Atm it looks kinda weird, and some objects could be placed slightly better.Fixed
  4. 00:22:149 – 00:39:833 – Feels really empty here. I think the player might get bored if there’s nothing much to click here. Consider Ncing at every downbeat as well, since the follow points look somewhat unappealing with such a long pause between notes.Fixed
  5. 00:44:886 (5,6) – Blanket!~ Fixed
  6. 00:47:412 (1,2,3) – I’m confused as to what rhythm this is supposed to be following. Consider revising that part? Fixed
  7. 00:51:833 (5) – Double reverse sliders can throw players off, consider changing this to something else like two normal sliders. Fixed
  8. 00:57:517 (1,2) – Blanket!~ Fixed
  9. 01:05:096 (7) – Really long multi-reverse slider. I think you can maybe make a more interesting pattern out of this. Especially considering the slider speed it may be hard for new players to keep up. Maybe something like this?: https://puu.sh/rCMuG/64df4378fd.mp4 Fixed
  10. 01:08:886 (3,4) – This overlap looks unsightly. Maybe play around with it until you can get rid of it. I’d move 01:09:517 (4) to the left, personally. Fixed
  11. 01:10:781 (7,9) – Blanket these two? Or these two: 01:11:096 (8,9) ? Fixed
  12. 01:11:412 (9) – Another double reverse. ._. Fixed
  13. 01:17:096 (1) – I don’t know about stacking this under 01:16:307 (2). It could cause players to click too early since normal diffs are mostly about learning distance/tempo you know? If it’s so close players at this level may tend to click it as fast as possible. Fixed
  14. 01:24:675 (5,1) – Move 01:24:675 (5) to the right and blanket with 01:25:307 (1) to avoid overlap?
Fixed

Hard

Hard

  1. Consider revising Ncs in this diff as well. Combos feel too long. Read what I said in Normal. Actually, do it for all difficulties.
  2. 00:04:465 (7) – The reverse tick misses the note I’m gonna assume you want to map. It’s on the red tick yet the reverse ticks is on a blue tick. How about this? https://puu.sh/rCMIC/a0b920802c.png Fixed
  3. 00:08:254 (1) – Double reverse. Could be two sliders or four circles, up to you, but I don’t really like the way it looks or plays. It seems too passive for the piano part. When playing I would have preferred to click more of the piano. Fixed
  4. 00:12:675 (3,4) – Blanket! Fixed
  5. 00:13:307 (5,6) - ^ Fixed
  6. 00:14:254 (7) – I’d end this on a red tick instead of blue, easier and smoother to play. Fixed
  7. 00:17:096 (1,2) – Blanket! https://puu.sh/rCMTU/ea3e2379a1.png ? Fixed
  8. 00:17:570 (2,3) – Also idk about this stack, seems a little awkward to play. I don’t see a reason to stop flow here. I'm keeping that there xd
  9. 00:19:623 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
  10. 00:25:939 (4) – Double reverse. ;-; Fixed
  11. 00:33:517 (5) - ^ Fixed
  12. 00:39:833 (6,2) – I would try to change the shape of 00:40:939 (2) to avoid this overlap, but it’s up to you if you want to change it or not. Leavin it there
  13. 00:45:991 (5) – Ends on a very strong note. I’d remove the reverse tick and add something clickable at 00:47:412 I cant stop the slider midway or size it down to fit a note there,will leave it there till further notice
  14. 00:51:202 (3,4) – Blanket! Fixed
  15. 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - – I’d do something like this instead: https://puu.sh/rCN7n/ab747791e3.png Fixed
  16. 00:57:517 (2,3) - Blanket? Fixed
  17. 00:58:465 (4) – Dunno about this stop here either. Breaks flow unnecessarily in my opinion. Fixed
  18. 00:59:728 (8,1) – Blanket! Fixed
  19. 00:57:991 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Try this?: https://puu.sh/rCNh0/3a3c4d3a94.mp4 Fixed
  20. 01:01:149 (4,6) – Not a fan of this overlap tbh. Fixed
  21. 01:02:254 (7,1) – Blanket! Fixed
  22. 01:07:307 (2,3) – Should be another like 01:06:991 (1) imo Fixed
  23. 01:08:886 (5,6) – Blanket! Fixed
  24. 01:10:781 (3,4) – Blanket? Fixed
  25. 01:14:570 (8,3) – Try stacking these somehow? Fixed
  26. 01:15:991 (4,5) – Again, not too big a fan of this overlap. ._. Keeping it <3
  27. 01:17:728 (1,2) – Blanket! Fixed
  28. 01:18:833 (4) - ^ Fixed
  29. 01:19:939 (1,2) - ^ Fixed
  30. 01:20:728 (3,4) - ^ Fixed
  31. 01:22:465 (1) – Ends on a pretty strong note. I’d put something clickable on the downbeat. Fixed
  32. 01:23:886 (1,2,3) – Symmetry! https://puu.sh/rCNs6/5e061053b2.png Fixed
  33. 01:27:833 (2,1) – Not a fan of this overlap either. ;-; 01:29:096 (1) also ends on a strong beat. Keeping that there

Insane+

Insane+

  1. Firstly, why insane + if there’s no insane? o.o Many testplayers have stated that the insane doesn't really feel like an insane,more like an insane/extra due to its jumps and big streams,even though its a 4.7*
  2. 00:01:939 (1,2) – I’d ctrl+G these tbh, idk why but it looks better to me. (not both, one at a time xD) Fixed
  3. 00:04:465 (1) – Another double reverse asdjfasdf. I won’t mention any more but I strongly recommend changing these as they play weird and you map them to notes that could be better to play if they were clicked.
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  4. 00:08:097 (2,3) – Inconsistent DS. Fixed
  5. 00:10:781 (1,2) – What is this massive jump for? o.o Consider nerfing? I'll leave that, because the music gets louder by a shitton and I think that the jump plays it well
  6. 00:22:781 (2,4) – Unsightly overlap. ;-; I feel it looks nice though :/
  7. 00:27:833 (2,3) – Blanket? Bring the note infront and you'll see it lines up perfectly(ikr)
  8. 00:29:096 (5,6,1,2) – These all overlap somehow. Maybe revise how you placed things in this part? Fixed
  9. 00:35:096 (2) – Misses piano on the red tick. Feels weird to play tbh, I’d end the slider on red rather than blue. I get that you’re mapping the vocals but this rhythm choice is questionable. x.x Piano starts at 1 and I don't hear anything at red so there shouldn't be a note there
  10. 00:37:623 (2,3) – Blanket! Fixed
  11. 00:41:412 (3,4,1,2,3,4) – Aaa this part screwed me up so much. If anything it should be spaced higher at the beginning and less towards the end since at the beginning the piano is more intense. Either way I didn’t like how that played when I tested it. Fixed
  12. 00:42:202 (4,1) – Inconsistent DS, unless it’s supposed to be a jump, in that case space it slightly more imo. Fixed
  13. 00:45:360 (3,5) – Blanket! Fixed
  14. 00:49:623 (7,8) – Wha? A triple would be fine here. Fixed
  15. 00:51:675 (5,6,7,8,9) – These jumps are pretty big for this section’s intensity. Nerf? Fixed
  16. 00:53:412 (4,5,6,7) – Horrible flow, will nearly always cause a combo break. In fact I might say it’s unplayable, but idk about that. What I would do: https://puu.sh/rCNUe/8f1a2edf8e.mp4 Fixed
  17. All through the kiai time there are some flow breaks at the end of sliders where you have to stop to click a circle. I feel it plays weird and doesn’t really match the song very well. I’d consider moving those circles somewhere else. Fixed some
  18. 01:03:517 (5,6) – Overlap. ;-; Fixed
  19. 01:10:149 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – About these… 01:10:465 (2,4) stack 4 with the end of 2. 01:10:465 (2,3) blanket these two? 01:11:097 (4,5) blanket these as well? 01:11:097 (4,6) stack 6 with 4’s end in a way that 01:11:412 (5,6) are symmetrical? This is hard to explain but in the end I get something like this: https://puu.sh/rCOah/d3fdea18aa.mp4 Fixed
  20. 01:30:360 (7) – Now… I really don’t wanna pick on this because it’s really good but this: https://puu.sh/rCOcL/08ba8173c0.png . This just… idk it triggers me. You could also extend it to 01:32:886
uh.. -.-


Good luck!
thx 4 ze mod


Louis Cyphre wrote:

[General]

- delete "Re:LieF" from tags it is already included in source.
- 00:00:00 - 00:10:781 - why did you use normal hitsound set instead of soft? It sounds too loud and doesn't fit at all
- 00:22:149 - 00:56:886 - ^
- Where are hitsounds?
- add easy difficulty

[Nowa's Flower]
AR -0.3~0.5 Too fast for such song.
Slider velocity is way too high. It doesn't fit to the music.
00:06:360 (3) - i don't really think it is needed to map such silent note.
00:21:439 (2) - it actually starts from 00:21:360
00:58:465 (5,6) - I don't hear any beats to approve those sliders. Why did you do that?
01:00:991 (4,5) - ^
01:03:123 (3) - ^
01:06:360 (1) - this slider is made in a special way. Why?
01:17:412 (5) - new combo due to spacing change
01:32:965 (1) - adjust the volume on the end of the slider till 5% with soft hitsound set

[Insane+]
Name this just [Insane] without those random symbols, please. Many testplayers have stated that the insane doesn't really feel like an insane,more like an insane/extra due to its jumps and big streams,even though its a 4.7*
00:45:833 (4) - this note overlaps hp bar a bit. Fixed
00:46:465 (6) - new combo Fixed
00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) - overmapping I don't think so, fits the music more.
00:57:991 (3,4) - ^ ^
01:03:833 (6) - new combo Fixed
01:04:781 (1) - no new combo Fixed
01:05:096 (2) - new combo Fixed
01:06:360 (6) - new combo Fixed
01:08:886 (6) - new combo Fixed
01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - overmapping Fits the song more,along with that its aligned in a way that the player doesn't need to do some crazy jump to get to the stream,he just needs to follow the already obvious anti-clockwise flow.
01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ Also follows flow
01:30:360 (7) - extend till white tick and keep symmetry Fixed
01:32:965 (1) - silence spinner Fixed

[Hard]
00:04:465 (7) - there are no sound on blue tick. It sounds completely off the rhythm. New combo also should be placed there. Fixed
00:45:991 (5) - ^ Fixed
00:20:254 (3) - repeat slider is almost hidden by previous slider Fixed
01:32:965 (1) - silence the end of slider

[Normal]
00:06:991 (1,2,3) - why are they all different? What was the purpose to make it like that. Because I cant have the same slider shape play 3 different piano parts,and that it's to give some variety to the song(im sorry I suck)
00:17:886 (2) - repeat slider is almost hidden Fixed
00:22:149 - ~ 00:39:833 - You should totally include more notes here, it is waaaay too empty for Normal. Fixed
00:43:623 (3) - fix the spacing Fixed
00:45:991 (7,8,9,1,2) - this is like a big mess. Remake to make everything readable for average players. Fixed
01:27:833 (1) - offscreen Fixed
01:32:965 (1) - silence the end of slider
Fixed
Nowaie

Miryle wrote:

M4M from my queue!

Nice song choice. :3 Formatted with top-to-bottom reading in mind. So I might say something in Normal or Hard that applies to all diffs.

Nowa’s Flower

Nowa’s Flower

  1. 00:13:781 (2) – Nazi blanket~ Heil
  2. 00:15:833 (1) – Removing this note would make this 00:15:991 (2,3,4) easier to play. (Also there’s no sound on that note. :3) It would make it easier to play but there is a notable drum hit mapped under that note so not removing it
  3. 00:21:439 (2) – I’d lower this to even 10% volume. Will be changed when i get the hitsounds ready
  4. 00:32:096 – Note here? Done
  5. 00:41:412 (2,3,4,5) – Pretty big jumps for such a calm section. ._. Also 00:42:044 (1) why? The jumps are for the final piano sounds before the speed up. Though they were bit too excessive to me aswell so i lowered the DS for 3|4|5 to .9x
  6. 00:50:886 (4,2) – You could stack these. That was the original plan but the DS for 00:51:675 (2,3) - was too low and i want the 3 to be blanketed with the (1) like it is now
  7. 01:27:754 (1) - https://puu.sh/rCOsG/32e044d9f2.png ? First of all the beat is not 1/6 there and second the first beat you mapped under that slider is way too unnotable when played so i don't think it should be mapped
  8. 01:30:360 (1) – Why reverse this? It looks weird if the reverse sits there. Maybe make the ending stand out a little more? Up to you really, I don’t think it looks too good. ._. I'll see what i can do to it the reverse was just a temp until i got a better idea but seems like i never got one but don't expect a kick ass ending so i want to keep the spinner there

Good luck!

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[General]

- Where are hitsounds?
- 00:00:00 - 00:10:781 - why did you use normal hitsound set instead of soft? It sounds too loud and doesn't fit at all
- 00:22:149 - 00:56:886 - ^

The hitsounding is WIP

[Nowa's Flower]
AR -0.3~0.5 Too fast for such song. Let's look at Monstrata's SANTA SAN for example which has AR 9.3 and the same BPM as this song. Also it has similiar slower parts so would you see that as a problem then? How about Fycho's Miraizu [Special]? The patterns are easier and the bpm is 178 which is 12 less than this song and still it has AR 9.3. If i could hear your opinion on this i may re consider the change as i think the AR is fine right now.
Slider velocity is way too high. It doesn't fit to the music. I map with high SV always as that allows the map to be bit loose and that way more fun to play and it fits my style. Also this is one of the reasons i use higher AR. If someone wants to give me a clear reason why is this hurting the map quality so i understand why i have to destroy my own style, i will lower the SV
00:06:360 (3) - i don't really think it is needed to map such silent note. I somewhat agree. It's somewhat less important but it's still notable so i don't really know right now. If someone notes this out again (with a good reason) i will consider and most likely fix it
00:21:439 (2) - it actually starts from 00:21:360 Fixed
00:58:465 (5,6) - I don't hear any beats to approve those sliders. Why did you do that? I kinda tried to follow the vocal lines here but i think they aren't that improtant after all
01:00:991 (4,5) - ^ ^
01:03:123 (3) - ^ Here if you listen closely (or just remove the short slider and listen) there are two clear piano beats mapped under it
01:06:360 (1) - this slider is made in a special way. Why? I don't think there is a reason at all to be special but i mean it's not that special, just bit more aesthetical
01:17:412 (5) - new combo due to spacing change Oh yeah, fixed
01:32:965 (1) - adjust the volume on the end of the slider till 5% with soft hitsound set Will be fixed when we get the hitsounds ready

Kantzm8 wrote:

Hello, for M4M

Nowa's flower
00:02:412 (2) - This note is pretty high musically, i think you can add more spacing even though its the intro. Sure but i can't add too much as it is in the intro : )
00:08:886 (3,3) - These slider could do well with slightly lower SV. I kinda agree on the first one as the notes are bit lower but the second one isn't lower like for the first one
00:23:254 (4,2) - Unecessary overlap, even if its slight. How is this overlapped? They don't even touch each other?
00:52:149 (5,1) - Heavy note and big white tick, this should have bigger spacing Like in the intro thing, increased it by a bit but i don't want to increase too much
01:28:939 (1) - I think this note is quite unecessary, it doesnt hit the "k" sound in the vocals that i think you were going for. Removed for the greater good
Thanks for modding guys, sorry if i sound rude (had a really bad day)


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Topic Starter
_Meep_

Kantzm8 wrote:

Hello, for M4M

General
Just the standard stuff for a new mapset, obv needs hitsounds and an easy difficulty (or something below 2 stars atleast).
Also combo colours.

Nowa's flower
00:02:412 (2) - This note is pretty high musically, i think you can add more spacing even though its the intro.
00:08:886 (3,3) - These slider could do well with slightly lower SV.
00:23:254 (4,2) - Unecessary overlap, even if its slight.
00:52:149 (5,1) - Heavy note and big white tick, this should have bigger spacing
01:28:939 (1) - I think this note is quite unecessary, it doesnt hit the "k" sound in the vocals that i think you were going for.

Insane+
Why is this called insane"+"? I mean youre free to call it what you want but i feel like insane+ implies that it is difficult for an insane which it isnt. color=#4000FF]I have said it in previous mods.[/color]
00:17:096 (1,2,3) - Why are these tilted differently? The piano notes they play are different
00:18:675 (6,7) - This flows weird. I don't really know how to change this
00:25:939 (4,5) - Copy and paste one of these and just ctrl+j to get the same tilt. Fixed
00:42:202 (4,1) - I think this can have even bigger spacing, its quite a change in the music. Fixed
00:42:833 - The vocals start here so i think that Fixed
makes more sense since you do map the vocals.
00:51:833 (6) - This note should be more spaced than 00:51:991 (7) - this note since it has a big vocal hit on it while the red tick doesnt. FixedFixed
00:51:991 (7,1) - This overlap looks off Fixed
00:54:360 (9) - Stack this with one of the notes from the triplet Fixed
00:55:149 (2,5,7) - Space these out slightly to avoid unecessary overlap Fixed
01:20:254 (1,2) - Make these the same design exactly with copy paste and then ctrl+h, ctrl+j Fixed

Hard
00:04:465 (7) - This should be NC seeing as how you've Nc'd the rest of the intro Fixed
00:20:096 (2,3) - This blanket is too close. Fixed
00:49:307 (5,7) - Is this stack meant to be off to make it easier to read? Otherwise, fix. It is.
00:56:096 (8) - I think you can move this slightly to the left to make it flow better Fixed
01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This might be too difficult to read for a Hard but im not sure tbh. Not too sure either,I'll have some rank 60-100k players help me test it later on
01:14:570 (8,3) - No reason for this stack to be off i think Fixed?

Normal
BNs have told me in the past that Normal difficulties cant have changing slider velocities, i think its worth looking into. I asked modhelp and most of them said it's fine
Nitrous
M4M as Requested

General
  1. Tags conflict with Nowa's Flower diff
  2. Consider hitsounding the map?
Normal
  1. 00:01:939 (1) - Move the repeat to 00:02:412
  2. 00:06:675 (3,1) - In my opinion you shouldn't stack with Normal diff but if you want to keep it then fix the stack
  3. 00:08:254 (2) - Remove then put 2 1/1 sliders since you won't hear any beat in 00:08:728
  4. 00:15:991 (3,4,5,6) - Rhythm seems too complicated. Try something like this: http://puu.sh/rDTFy/85ca78fbdd.jpg
  5. 00:17:096 (1,2) - Move (2) somewhere else. Its really confusing that you stacked the slider ends and body of (2) to (1)
  6. 00:17:096 (1,2) - Add circle
  7. 00:28:307 (4) - Move the repeat to 00:28:781
  8. 00:30:044 (2,3) - Try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/rDTLC/0d5f6dad2f.jpg
  9. 00:33:517 (4) - Turn this to 2 1/1 sliders instead since you won't hear any beat in
  10. 00:38:886 (1,2) - Turn this to a 1/1 repeat instead
  11. 00:45:991 (7) - Move slider end to 00:46:307 -
  12. 00:57:991 - Add circle
  13. 00:59:886 - Add circle
  14. 01:22:465 (1) - Please refrain from using 1/4 on Normal diff. Move slider end to 01:22:623
One thing to note is that I'm really having trouble reading the map with the inconsistent Distance Snap. Also some of the slider and circle placement is a bit troublesome as it stacks on one another.

Hard
  1. 00:40:781 (1,2) - Fix stacking
  2. 00:45:991 (5) - Move repeat to 00:46:307 and add a circle here 00:46:781
  3. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Consider revising. Kinda hard to read.
  4. 01:12:360 (8,1) - Fix stacking
Insane+
  1. 00:30:202 (2,3,4) - Fix blanket
  2. 00:37:623 (2,3) - ^
  3. 00:57:991 (3,4) - Feels off in my opinion. Remove circles
  4. 01:00:517 (3,4) - ^
  5. 01:25:939 (6,7) - Fix blanket
  6. 01:30:360 (7) - Nice slider art? No offense but consider fixing it.
  7. 01:30:360 (7,1) - Don't ever stack beats. Adding a 1/4 gap is fine enough
Nowa's Flower
  1. 01:27:833 (1) - Awkward. Try adding some rhythm after it and remove the repeat

Thats all from me! Thanks for the M4M and Good luck in ranking!
Nowaie

-Nitrous wrote:

M4M as Requested

General
  1. Consider hitsounding the map? Already mentioned but yeah, hitsounding is in progress
Nowa's Flower
  1. 01:27:833 (1) - Awkward. Try adding some rhythm after it and remove the repeat How does it feel awkward? Mouse movement, maybe. It's placement in the timeline when compared to the song, definitely not because it folllows the guitar/banjo/the_fuck_is_that_instrument sounds. Unless if there is a clear reason to remove the repeat i won't do anything to that part Though i may map this 01:28:781 - if it gets noted out

Thats all from me! Thanks for the M4M and Good luck in ranking!
Thanks for modding~
Nitrous

DTM9 Nowa wrote:

-Nitrous wrote:

M4M as Requested

General
  1. Consider hitsounding the map? Already mentioned but yeah, hitsounding is in progress
Nowa's Flower
  1. 01:27:833 (1) - Awkward. Try adding some rhythm after it and remove the repeat How does it feel awkward? Mouse movement, maybe. It's placement in the timeline when compared to the song, definitely not because it folllows the guitar/banjo/the_fuck_is_that_instrument sounds. Unless if there is a clear reason to remove the repeat i won't do anything to that part Though i may map this 01:28:781 - if it gets noted out

Thats all from me! Thanks for the M4M and Good luck in ranking!
Thanks for modding~
It just felt awkward in my own opinion. Well hitsounding might cover it up in the end.
Nowaie

-Nitrous wrote:

It just felt awkward in my own opinion. Well hitsounding might cover it up in the end.
Alright, i will reconsider this if someone else mentions this same issue. I would've wanted to know what is awkward in it and bit of the thought process behind this opinion/statement. Credit to you for communicating with the people you are modding to.
Topic Starter
_Meep_

-Nitrous wrote:

M4M as Requested

[notice]General
  1. Tags conflict with Nowa's Flower diff
  2. Consider hitsounding the map?
Normal
  1. 00:01:939 (1) - Move the repeat to 00:02:412 Fixed
  2. 00:06:675 (3,1) - In my opinion you shouldn't stack with Normal diff but if you want to keep it then fix the stack keeping
  3. 00:08:254 (2) - Remove then put 2 1/1 sliders since you won't hear any beat in 00:08:728 Fixed
  4. 00:15:991 (3,4,5,6) - Rhythm seems too complicated. Try something like this: http://puu.sh/rDTFy/85ca78fbdd.jpg Fixed
  5. 00:17:096 (1,2) - Move (2) somewhere else. Its really confusing that you stacked the slider ends and body of (2) to (1) Fixed
  6. 00:17:096 (1,2) - Add circle Fixed
  7. 00:28:307 (4) - Move the repeat to 00:28:781 Fixed
  8. 00:30:044 (2,3) - Try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/rDTLC/0d5f6dad2f.jpg Fixed
  9. 00:33:517 (4) - Turn this to 2 1/1 sliders instead since you won't hear any beat in Fixed
  10. 00:38:886 (1,2) - Turn this to a 1/1 repeat instead Fixed
  11. 00:45:991 (7) - Move slider end to 00:46:307 - Fixed
  12. 00:57:991 - Add circle Fixed
  13. 00:59:886 - Add circle Fixed
  14. 01:22:465 (1) - Please refrain from using 1/4 on Normal diff. Move slider end to 01:22:623
Fixed, Sorry for using much of it
One thing to note is that I'm really having trouble reading the map with the inconsistent Distance Snap. Also some of the slider and circle placement is a bit troublesome as it stacks on one another. Fixed most of the notes

Hard
  1. 00:40:781 (1,2) - Fix stacking Fixed
  2. 00:45:991 (5) - Move repeat to 00:46:307 and add a circle here 00:46:781 Fixed
  3. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Consider revising. Kinda hard to read. Consulted some hard mode players,around rank 100k-200k,they played it pretty well with ease.
  4. 01:12:360 (8,1) - Fix stacking Fixed
Insane+
  1. 00:30:202 (2,3,4) - Fix blanket Fixed
  2. 00:37:623 (2,3) - ^ Fixed
  3. 00:57:991 (3,4) - Feels off in my opinion. Remove circles Fixed
  4. 01:00:517 (3,4) - ^ Fixed
  5. 01:25:939 (6,7) - Fix blanket Fixed
  6. 01:30:360 (7) - Nice slider art? No offense but consider fixing it. Fix what o-o
  7. 01:30:360 (7,1) - Don't ever stack beats. Adding a 1/4 gap is fine enough
Not too sure what you meant there,but I just added a 1/4 gap


Thats all from me! Thanks for the M4M and Good luck in ranking!
Thanks for moddin' :D
Vivyanne
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: hightec
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: can u help me testplay mai map
2016-10-10 15:49 HighTec: can i?
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: -.-
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: so u gona?
2016-10-10 15:49 HighTec: well if u wanna see hightec that hasnt played all day + cold hands well i guess
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514
2016-10-10 15:49 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-10 15:50 HighTec: anime tho - _
2016-10-10 15:50 _Meep_: eroge
2016-10-10 15:50 _Meep_: lol
2016-10-10 15:50 HighTec: o
2016-10-10 15:50 HighTec: then its all good sory
2016-10-10 15:50 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-10 15:50 _Meep_: its kk
2016-10-10 15:50 HighTec: waht diff
2016-10-10 15:51 HighTec: do i needa pley
2016-10-10 15:52 _Meep_: uh
2016-10-10 15:52 _Meep_: insane I guess
2016-10-10 15:52 _Meep_: and last diff if possible
2016-10-10 15:52 _Meep_: cuz ur hands r cold
2016-10-10 15:52 _Meep_: and theres streams on both .-.
2016-10-10 15:56 HighTec: lemme get food
2016-10-10 15:56 HighTec: then ill mod ur insane+
2016-10-10 15:56 _Meep_: XD
2016-10-10 15:56 _Meep_: sure
2016-10-10 15:58 HighTec: 00:54:360 (9,10) - fix this
2016-10-10 15:58 HighTec: rn
2016-10-10 15:58 HighTec: like why
2016-10-10 15:58 HighTec: are these notes
2016-10-10 15:59 HighTec: almost touching each other
2016-10-10 15:59 _Meep_: ??
2016-10-10 15:59 HighTec: space them out
2016-10-10 15:59 _Meep_: I spaced it now
2016-10-10 15:59 HighTec: yeS
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: 00:22:149 - mind making this a clickable note, thus shortening the spinner and silencing the spinner's end ?
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: the beat is like so strong
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: it triggers me to see a spinner end there
2016-10-10 16:00 _Meep_: Where should I place the note?
2016-10-10 16:00 _Meep_: Other than ontop of 00:22:465 (1) - I dont see any better place tho
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/hGwisaBX i did this quickily
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: to get u
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: a point
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: eya u can easily stack it
2016-10-10 16:00 HighTec: that's the best option
2016-10-10 16:01 _Meep_: ok then XD
2016-10-10 16:01 _Meep_: so I stop the spinner 00:21:833 - ?
2016-10-10 16:01 _Meep_: sounds better
2016-10-10 16:01 HighTec: as long as u silence it
2016-10-10 16:01 HighTec: uwu
2016-10-10 16:01 _Meep_: okie
2016-10-10 16:02 HighTec: same for the clickable stuff goes for 00:23:254 -
2016-10-10 16:02 HighTec: as you made all other vocals clickable at that part
2016-10-10 16:02 _Meep_: Well,what I thought was
2016-10-10 16:02 _Meep_: Because each note kind of represented/played one note
2016-10-10 16:03 _Meep_: one word*
2016-10-10 16:03 HighTec: o well that works too i guess
2016-10-10 16:03 HighTec: 00:27:833 (2) - nazi thing but can u make this slider symmetrical xd
2016-10-10 16:03 _Meep_: uh
2016-10-10 16:04 _Meep_: done
2016-10-10 16:04 HighTec: 00:39:833 (7) - maybe you can place this further away from 00:39:517 (6) - for emphasis on the louder piano
2016-10-10 16:05 HighTec: 00:41:886 (2,3,4) - why a spacing decrease when you didnt do that on 00:31:465 (5,6,7,8,9) -
2016-10-10 16:05 HighTec: looks inconsistent
2016-10-10 16:05 _Meep_: should I blanket 00:39:517 (6) - with 00:39:833 (7) - ?
2016-10-10 16:05 HighTec: nah dont blanket it
2016-10-10 16:05 HighTec: just space it \o/
2016-10-10 16:06 _Meep_: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6292172
2016-10-10 16:06 _Meep_: no?
2016-10-10 16:06 HighTec: yea thats fine
2016-10-10 16:08 _Meep_: ll,hmm
2016-10-10 16:08 _Meep_: hmm
2016-10-10 16:08 HighTec: 00:49:623 (1,2,3) - this triple on white tick sounds weird, reconsider it xd
2016-10-10 16:09 _Meep_: It was originally supposed to be a 1/4 slider,then a circle,empty tick,then another circle
2016-10-10 16:09 HighTec: idk if the triple even fits
2016-10-10 16:09 HighTec: it sounds so weird man :S
2016-10-10 16:09 _Meep_: meh,I'll leave it ;/
2016-10-10 16:10 HighTec: uwu
2016-10-10 16:10 HighTec: 00:54:044 (8,9) - perfect stack pls okthanks as
2016-10-10 16:10 HighTec: 00:59:728 (3) - would be cool if youd change this to 2 circles because
2016-10-10 16:10 HighTec: 1) you make the vocals tapable \o/
2016-10-10 16:10 HighTec: 2) makes a nice difference that the piano isnt as strong anymore
2016-10-10 16:11 _Meep_: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6292208
2016-10-10 16:11 _Meep_: I wanted this
2016-10-10 16:11 HighTec: o that can work
2016-10-10 16:12 _Meep_: flow is better that way
2016-10-10 16:12 HighTec: 01:03:044 (3) - make this circles to because here you can make the piano tapable \o/\o/
2016-10-10 16:12 HighTec: 01:14:886 (2) - this should be tappable as the song is rly intense and you made people tap longer beforehand
2016-10-10 16:12 HighTec: so no reason not to \o/
2016-10-10 16:13 _Meep_: Hmm
2016-10-10 16:13 _Meep_: Should I space the stream out? Or size a 4 note stream down so that it looks aggressive
2016-10-10 16:14 HighTec: 01:30:360 (7) - make this slider symmetrical too pls [https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/CV1xJuKR like this]
2016-10-10 16:14 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6292220
2016-10-10 16:14 _Meep_: or
2016-10-10 16:14 HighTec: uh spaced would fit the jumps better i guess
2016-10-10 16:14 _Meep_: okie
2016-10-10 16:14 HighTec: would make the movement more intense too
2016-10-10 16:14 HighTec: which would fit the song better
2016-10-10 16:14 _Meep_: No I wanted the last slider to be more of a flower/star
2016-10-10 16:14 _Meep_: so ye
2016-10-10 16:15 HighTec: it looks better symmetrical tho :x
2016-10-10 16:16 HighTec: well thats me crying about ur map
2016-10-10 16:17 _Meep_: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6292252 this ok?
2016-10-10 16:17 HighTec: yea way better
2016-10-10 16:18 _Meep_: yay
2016-10-10 16:19 _Meep_: go get ur kds
2016-10-10 16:19 _Meep_: lol
Ashton
m4m from #modreqs

[General]

in the insane+ diff 00:29:728 (1) - offscreen object

tags are inconsistant

[Normal]

this diffs main problem is unnecesarry overlap, go through your whole map to find all awkward overlaps + fix them please, that aside

00:01:939 (1,2,3) - don't do this in normal please, it doesn't make much of any sense and looks weird, it would be better if they weren't just higher than each other bug going in a circular flow + having them all the same shape
00:04:465 (3) - when making sliders like these in normal difficulties try and put two normal anchors aon each side of the red anchor to make it a soft point
00:08:254 (2,3) - it would be good if you made these the same shape also weird overlap
00:14:570 (1,2) - please just make these identical curve sliders, I personally don't like the way you've arranged them now
00:19:623 (6) - move red anchor higher up the slider so that the point at the tail of the slider isn't such a steep drop (I hope you understand)
00:28:307 (4,1) - this stack is too hard for a beginner / novice to recongnize there's actually a note underneath it!
00:30:044 (2,3) - would flow better as a stack
00:30:044 (2,3,1,1) - overlap
01:22:465 (1,2) - same thing as before, hard to read for beginner
01:24:675 (5) - not snapped
01:26:570 (2,1) - fix blanket


[Hard]

this is quite a bit better than normal

00:04:149 (6) - curve this less please
00:11:728 (3,1) - please just stack this
00:12:991 (4,3) - should be identical
00:25:939 (4) - please not a double reverse slider xd
00:28:781 (4,5,6) - I guess this is alright, but maybe a little bit of re=arranging would help?
00:34:781 (7,1) - again, please just stack this
00:37:307 (6,1) - stack isn't perfect
00:45:991 (5) - this shape though
00:53:728 (6,7,8,9) - it would make it WAY EASIER if these were all the same shape
00:56:096 (8,1) - this is great
01:24:360 (2,3,4) - same shape please


[Insane+]

I'm just going to skip modding this because I feel like the only problems in it are the same as normal, just look at the suggestions in normal and do the same here :P

I also don't know how to mod anything harder than 4(

good luck!
619
Hi. m4m
Sry for my bad english


GENERAL
  1. You must do one diff less than 1.8
  2. Check Widescreen support
  3. White(Grey?) colour is not rankable i think? Change him
  4. Check AIMOD, different tags
  5. Add name GD mappers in tags pls

HARD
  1. 00:01:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's a little bit inconsistent spacing, try to some fix it
  2. 00:02:886 (3) - Can you impove this blanket? Just rotate him it 10 degrees clockwise and move it to 364|72
  3. 00:05:096 - I think, you should not ignore the sound here
  4. 00:06:675 (3) - Same (rotate him in 10 degrees anti-clockwise and move to 476|277
  5. 00:15:360 (1,2,3) - very confusing rhythm imo. I recommend to do so http://puu.sh/rEb1V/4fc0c2b8c2.jpg
  6. 00:17:570 (2) - Improve blanket
  7. 00:18:202 (3) - Unstack circle please, its not reading good
  8. 00:18:833 (5) - Blanket
  9. 00:19:307 (6,3) - Try to stack, looks better imo
  10. 00:23:412 (3) - Same(rotate and move)
  11. 00:25:939 (4) - This repeat slider looks confusing. Try to make 2 1\1 sliders
  12. 00:29:728 (7,8) - Improve blanket please ;d
  13. 00:30:991 (9) - I think there should go into music, than in the vocal
  14. 00:32:886 (3) - Same
  15. 00:34:149 (6) - Not the best flow imo
  16. 00:35:886 (3,4) - Try to stack and 00:35:096 (1,4) - avoid overlap please
  17. 00:35:096 (1,4) - very interesting slider, pls improve him, coz he's looks... unnatural?
  18. 00:44:570 (1) - avoid overlap ( move slider to 56|91)
  19. 00:45:991 (5) - This slider is too curved imo
  20. 00:46:781 (6) - unstack please
  21. 00:46:781 (6,7,8) - very good point in the music to speed up once
  22. 00:49:307 (5,7) - Stuck
  23. 00:51:202 (3) - blanket
  24. 00:56:096 (8) - move it to 195|201 for better flow
  25. 01:02:570 (1) - blanket
  26. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - looks unreadable
  27. 01:08:728 (4,7) - avoid overlap please
  28. 01:16:307 (5) - move to 329|92 for avoid overlap and better flow
  29. 01:26:412 (7) - do it like this http://puu.sh/rEc8Z/c797580bac.jpg
  30. I think 80% volume to noisy, try 70% instead

Insane+
  1. AR 9.2 too high, maybe 9.1?
  2. Check AIMOD 00:39:833 (6,7) -
    2 objects appear at one time
  3. 00:05:254 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  4. 00:09:202 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap
  5. 00:11:254 (2,3) - stack them, looks better imo
  6. 00:22:781 (2,4) - not good overlap, looks bad imo, maybe stack them?
  7. 00:31:465 (5,6,7,8,9) - inconsistent spacing, this overlaps looks weird, maybe it contrary to increase or leave the same
  8. 00:38:096 (3) - Bad rhytm. Try this http://puu.sh/rEe6q/ea0464f101.jpg (cursor on 00:38:096 - )
  9. 00:41:886 (2,3,4) - increase spacing please
  10. 00:44:570 (10) - blanket
  11. 00:46:465 (1) - Unnecessary NC, coz 00:43:939 (6) - dont have a NC
  12. 00:48:675 (4,5) - Bad flow imo.
  13. 00:49:623 (1,2,3) - move it little bit below for better flow
  14. 00:52:149 (8,1) - Overlap
  15. 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) - Hard to read after spin, maybe make this as spacing stream?
  16. 01:05:728 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  17. 01:06:360 (1) - same
  18. 01:15:675 (3) - You can avoid this overlap, i know)
  19. 01:17:411 (1) - not need NC
  20. 01:17:728 - i think, here is too low SV, once 40%, although the music has not changed too much, mabe change to 90%?
  21. 01:19:939 (7,2) - stack them
  22. 01:24:360 (1) - Not need NC
  23. 01:25:307 (4) - NC
  24. 01:26:412 (7) - Fix blanket
  25. 01:27:833 (2,1) - Stack them or make more spacing, looks not good
  26. 01:30:360 (7) - Nice lmao, but easy to combobreak

Nowa's Flower
  1. HP 6 or 6.5 pls. 8 is too much imo
  2. 00:22:939 (3) - rotate him in 10 degrees anti-clockwise and move to 237|78
  3. 00:28:465 (1,4) - Not good overlap imo
  4. 00:39:360 (3,1) - try to avoid overlap
  5. 00:44:570 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  6. 00:47:728 (2) - Add NC and curve it more
  7. 00:56:096 (1) - You SERIOUSLY need to changed this slider. I know you kinda didnt try to repeat yourself, but this looks not good imo :(
  8. 01:01:307 (1,5) - overlap
  9. 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - inconsistent spacing compared with 01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
  10. 01:17:570 (2) - blanket pls
  11. 01:32:412 (2,3) - It is easy to simply not hear these sounds and break combo, maybe 1\1 slider?
    Sry im not good in modding diffs with high starrate

Good luck with your mapset~
Nowaie

619 wrote:

Hi. m4m
Sry for my bad english

Nowa's Flower
  1. HP 6 or 6.5 pls. 8 is too much imo I'll try 7 and see what people think
  2. 00:22:939 (3) - rotate him in 10 degrees anti-clockwise and move to 237|78 Tweaked little bit from that as the blanket was not perfect
  3. 00:28:465 (1,4) - Not good overlap imo Stacked Silidertail(4) with Slidertail(1)
  4. 00:39:360 (3,1) - try to avoid overlap Fixing the DS fixed this issue
  5. 00:44:570 (1) - Unnecessary NC Uhh, why was that even NCd lol
  6. 00:47:728 (2) - Add NC and curve it more It should not be NCd because... well there is no reason to NC it and i don't see a reason why it should be curved more
  7. 00:56:096 (1) - You SERIOUSLY need to changed this slider. I know you kinda didnt try to repeat yourself, but this looks not good imo :( I will take a look at that
  8. 01:01:307 (1,5) - overlap It's barely visible so it shouldn't really matter after all
  9. 01:12:675 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - inconsistent spacing compared with 01:13:939 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - It's meant to be like that
  10. 01:17:570 (2) - blanket pls Should be better now
  11. 01:32:412 (2,3) - It is easy to simply not hear these sounds and break combo, maybe 1\1 slider? I have mapped less noticeable beats for example here 01:27:833 (1) - and here 00:06:360 (3) - . Atleast i didn't map this 01:35:412 -
    Sry im not good in modding diffs with high starrate

Good luck with your mapset~
Thanks for modding~


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Topic Starter
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Topic Starter
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Whirl wrote:

m4m from #modreqs

[General]

in the insane+ diff 00:29:728 (1) - offscreen object

tags are inconsistant

[Hard]

this is quite a bit better than normal

00:04:149 (6) - curve this less please Fixed
00:11:728 (3,1) - please just stack this Fixed
00:12:991 (4,3) - should be identical Fixed
00:25:939 (4) - please not a double reverse slider xd Fixed
00:28:781 (4,5,6) - I guess this is alright, but maybe a little bit of re=arranging would help?
00:34:781 (7,1) - again, please just stack this Fixed
00:37:307 (6,1) - stack isn't perfect Fixed
00:45:991 (5) - this shape though Fixed
00:53:728 (6,7,8,9) - it would make it WAY EASIER if these were all the same shape Not too sure what you meant,since they are the same shape/color]
00:56:096 (8,1) - this is great
01:24:360 (2,3,4) - same shape please

619 wrote:

Hi. m4m
Sry for my bad english


GENERAL
  1. You must do one diff less than 1.8 Soon
  2. Check Widescreen support Fixed
  3. White(Grey?) colour is not rankable i think? Change him Fixed
  4. Check AIMOD, different tags Fixed
  5. Add name GD mappers in tags pls Fixed

HARD
  1. 00:01:939 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It's a little bit inconsistent spacing, try to some fix it Fixed
  2. 00:02:886 (3) - Can you impove this blanket? Just rotate him it 10 degrees clockwise and move it to 364|72 Fixed
  3. 00:05:096 - I think, you should not ignore the sound here Fixed
  4. 00:06:675 (3) - Same (rotate him in 10 degrees anti-clockwise and move to 476|277 Fixed
  5. 00:15:360 (1,2,3) - very confusing rhythm imo. I recommend to do so http://puu.sh/rEb1V/4fc0c2b8c2.jpg Fixed
  6. 00:17:570 (2) - Improve blanket Fixed
  7. 00:18:202 (3) - Unstack circle please, its not reading good Fixed
  8. 00:18:833 (5) - Blanket Fixed
  9. 00:19:307 (6,3) - Try to stack, looks imo Fixed
  10. 00:23:412 (3) - Same(rotate and move) Fixed
  11. 00:25:939 (4) - This repeat slider looks confusing. Try to make 2 1\1 sliders Fixed
  12. 00:29:728 (7,8) - Improve blanket please ;d Fixed
  13. 00:30:991 (9) - I think there should go into music, than in the vocal Fixed
  14. 00:32:886 (3) - Same Fixed
  15. 00:34:149 (6) - Not the best flow imo Uh,I'll leave that there for now
  16. 00:35:886 (3,4) - Try to stack and 00:35:096 (1,4) - avoid overlap please Fixed
  17. 00:35:096 (1,4) - very interesting slider, pls improve him, coz he's looks... unnatural? Fixed
  18. 00:44:570 (1) - avoid overlap ( move slider to 56|91) Fixed
  19. 00:45:991 (5) - This slider is too curved imo Idk,im still keeping it
  20. 00:46:781 (6) - unstack please Fixed
  21. 00:46:781 (6,7,8) - very good point in the music to speed up once Fixed
  22. 00:49:307 (5,7) - Stuck Fixed
  23. 00:51:202 (3) - blanket Fixed
  24. 00:56:096 (8) - move it to 195|201 for better flow Fixed
  25. 01:02:570 (1) - blanket Fixed
  26. 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - looks unreadable I've had some rank 100k's play this and they passed it fine
  27. 01:08:728 (4,7) - avoid overlap please Fixed
  28. 01:16:307 (5) - move to 329|92 for avoid overlap and better flow Fixed
  29. 01:26:412 (7) - do it like this http://puu.sh/rEc8Z/c797580bac.jpg
  30. I think 80% volume to noisy, try 70% instead

Insane+
  1. AR 9.2 too high, maybe 9.1?
  2. Check AIMOD 00:39:833 (6,7) -
    2 objects appear at one time
  3. 00:05:254 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  4. 00:09:202 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap
  5. 00:11:254 (2,3) - stack them, looks better imo
  6. 00:22:781 (2,4) - not good overlap, looks bad imo, maybe stack them?
  7. 00:31:465 (5,6,7,8,9) - inconsistent spacing, this overlaps looks weird, maybe it contrary to increase or leave the same
  8. 00:38:096 (3) - Bad rhytm. Try this http://puu.sh/rEe6q/ea0464f101.jpg (cursor on 00:38:096 - )
  9. 00:41:886 (2,3,4) - increase spacing please
  10. 00:44:570 (10) - blanket
  11. 00:46:465 (1) - Unnecessary NC, coz 00:43:939 (6) - dont have a NC
  12. 00:48:675 (4,5) - Bad flow imo.
  13. 00:49:623 (1,2,3) - move it little bit below for better flow
  14. 00:52:149 (8,1) - Overlap
  15. 00:57:202 (1,2,3,4) - Hard to read after spin, maybe make this as spacing stream?
  16. 01:05:728 (1) - Unnecessary NC
  17. 01:06:360 (1) - same
  18. 01:15:675 (3) - You can avoid this overlap, i know)
  19. 01:17:411 (1) - not need NC
  20. 01:17:728 - i think, here is too low SV, once 40%, although the music has not changed too much, mabe change to 90%?
  21. 01:19:939 (7,2) - stack them
  22. 01:24:360 (1) - Not need NC
  23. 01:25:307 (4) - NC
  24. 01:26:412 (7) - Fix blanket
  25. 01:27:833 (2,1) - Stack them or make more spacing, looks not good
  26. 01:30:360 (7) - Nice lmao, but easy to combobreak

I fixed some stuff but I felt that most of them were either unrelevant or somethinng, because I can't seem to find the relation between what you modded and my map (ex. [*]00:52:149 (8,1) - Overlap )

Good luck with your mapset~
Thx for modding both of u :D
intiaz
Edit March 4th 2018: wow this map made it so far, and could’ve really been reanked!
the following below is one of my OLD OLD OLD mods and is really cringey. take a look if you want but heed warning that my mod could be a LOT better than this:
mod in 2016ish
im meeps servent owwoowowowow

619's Normal:
First issue is that the circle size is 3.5. this isn't exactly appropriate for normal diffs... it could be rankable for normal but it's wise not to take the risk. pls, change to cs3
00:04:465 to 00:06:675 - i'm not sure if this is rankable for normal... remove one of the sliders and turn the other one into a longer one for both of these, another thing is when doing this, the circle is too spaced away, so move it closer
00:13:149 - remove this circle, try not to do this in normal
00:14:254 - ^ and make the slider at 00:13:781 longer on the timeline to 00:14:254
00:15:991 to 00:16:939 - i know for certain this isn't rankable in normal
00:17:570 - don't do stacks in normal!!! ;-;
00:18:202 - ^
00:18:360 to 00:18:991 - same thing i said before, although this one here since it's only 2 sliders, it may be rankable.
00:31:465 - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF no stacks pls!!
00:33:360 - ^
00:35:886 - ^
00:38:412 - ^
00:41:254 - ^
00:41:412 - as i said before, i'm not sure if this is rankable for normal since it's more than 2
00:43:465 - NO STACKSSSSSSSSSDSKLF JDK,GJDFLM,GVN FLJGHJFKLHJ
00:45:833 - ^
00:47:254 - ^
00:51:675 - ^
00:53:570 - ^
00:54:833 - ^
00:56:096 - ^
00:58:623 - ^
00:59:886 - ^
01:01:149 - ^
okay y'know what another other stacks you see just fix em, i don't feel like naming the points they're at anymore ;w;

Hard:
instead of ar 8, ar 7.5 works better
and nothing wrong! awesome job!

Insane:
only thing wrong is that at 00:13:781 - this slider shape is weird af

Nowa's Flower:
nothing wrong with this either! kudos to nowa ;3

good map meep, keep it up! 8-)
P.S, if you need an easy gd, i'm here :)
619

Nyantiaz wrote:

619's Normal:
First issue is that the circle size is 3.5. this isn't exactly appropriate for normal diffs... it could be rankable for normal but it's wise not to take the risk. pls, change to cs3 - i like cs 3.5, but changed, kk
00:04:465 to 00:06:675 - i'm not sure if this is rankable for normal... remove one of the sliders and turn the other one into a longer one for both of these, another thing is when doing this, the circle is too spaced away, so move it closer - its fully rankable
00:13:149 - remove this circle, try not to do this in normal - why? its good and rankable
00:14:254 - ^ and make the slider at 00:13:781 longer on the timeline to 00:14:254 - ok
00:15:991 to 00:16:939 - i know for certain this isn't rankable in normal - RANKABLE, why not?
00:17:570 - don't do stacks in normal!!! ;-; - its fully rankable
00:18:202 - ^ - ^
00:18:360 to 00:18:991 - same thing i said before, although this one here since it's only 2 sliders, it may be rankable. - ^
00:31:465 - FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF no stacks pls!! - PLS
00:33:360 - ^ - ^
00:35:886 - ^ - ^
00:38:412 - ^ - ^
00:41:254 - ^ - ^
00:41:412 - as i said before, i'm not sure if this is rankable for normal since it's more than 2 - ^
00:43:465 - NO STACKSSSSSSSSSDSKLF JDK,GJDFLM,GVN FLJGHJFKLHJ - khm...
00:45:833 - ^
00:47:254 - ^
00:51:675 - ^
00:53:570 - ^
00:54:833 - ^
00:56:096 - ^
00:58:623 - ^
00:59:886 - ^
01:01:149 - ^
okay y'know what another other stacks you see just fix em, i don't feel like naming the points they're at anymore ;w; - no, this stacks in normal fully rankable
only in easy diffs must not stacks
thx

UPD
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P.S. Feel free to delete, if u dont like this
marcuddles
Memes IRC
17:31 Mark101: Hi _Meeme_
17:31 Mark101: I can make the mod for your map now
17:31 Mark101: let's complete everything via irc owo+
17:32 _Meep_: sure
17:32 *Mark101 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100514 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Insane]]
17:32 _Meep_: kk
17:33 Mark101: 00:02:886 (3) - I'd suggest to use a simple circle and use a distance of 1/1 to the next slider, this part is slow and it'd feel bad to ear the sliderend in a part where there's no sound
17:33 _Meep_: anything?
17:33 Mark101: if you don't want to remove the slider, at least silence it
17:33 Mark101: 00:04:149 (3) - it's like you did here
17:34 Mark101: 00:06:202 (2) - this slider touches 00:05:254 (3) -, move it down
17:34 Mark101: or move (3) up, your choice
17:35 _Meep_: moved
17:35 Mark101: 00:06:991 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Is there any reason for this? OwO, this part is slow, no need to use spams tbh
17:35 Mark101: I'd change with reverse sliders
17:35 _Meep_: Well
17:35 _Meep_: I wanted the notes to sync with the piano
17:35 Mark101: 00:13:307 (1) - Stack this correctly with 00:12:675 (3) -
17:36 Mark101: You can sync also with reverse arrows ew
17:36 _Meep_: But I feel that reverse arrows wouldn't pack much of a punch
17:36 Mark101: 00:13:307 (1) - If your intention wasn't to stack it, then use the same spacing you used for 00:12:044 (1,3) -
17:37 Mark101: 00:15:991 (1,2,3) - Stack properly to 00:15:360 (4) -
17:37 _Meep_: same spacing used
17:37 _Meep_: its stacked o-o
17:37 Mark101: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6312927 it isn't]
17:37 Mark101: No, it's not stacked
17:38 _Meep_: for me they are
17:38 _Meep_: lol
17:38 _Meep_: well whatevs
17:38 _Meep_: next <3
17:38 Mark101: Pls, do that
17:38 Mark101: It's a big aesthetic
17:38 _Meep_: I alr did
17:38 _Meep_: lol
17:38 _Meep_: -.-
17:38 _Meep_: next
17:38 Mark101: memes
17:39 Mark101: there's a streamy sound which starts in 00:18:202 - did you ignore it appositely?
17:39 _Meep_: I did want to ignore it
17:39 Mark101: 00:20:254 (3) - Oh, please remove the reverse arrow, sliders should never end on a "final" beat
17:39 _Meep_: it's very faint and only can be heard if played over a few times
17:40 _Meep_: why cant it be the reverse arrow?
17:40 Mark101: 00:23:728 (2) - overlap correctly with 00:22:781 (2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6312953
17:40 Mark101: i can't explain correctly in english, but trust me
17:41 _Meep_: It's already correctly overlapped?
17:41 Mark101: it's like the thing that a slider can't end on a strong beat
17:41 Mark101: no, it's half overlapped ew
17:41 _Meep_: glol
17:41 Mark101: 00:27:044 (3) - mmh there's no sound for this, if you want to keep it, put another circle in 00:26:412 -, to keep the structure composed
17:42 Mark101: 00:27:833 (3) - this shape triggers me so much
17:42 Mark101: please shape it correctly
17:42 Mark101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6312964
17:42 _Meep_: But its good for a buildup since there is a downbeat
17:43 _Meep_: changed
17:43 Mark101: 00:29:096 (2) - pls, change with a 1/1 slider, as you did in the rest of the song
17:44 Mark101: 00:35:096 (2) - there's a low beat in the redline, make the slider end in it
17:44 Mark101: don't follow the vocal, because you didn't before
17:44 Mark101: 00:37:465 - there's a beat here, too
17:45 Mark101: 00:43:465 (4) - CTRL+G
17:45 Mark101: 00:49:623 (4,5,6) - Any reason for this? there's no sound for an alternation
17:45 _Meep_: Im mapping more to the vocals and main instruments
17:46 Mark101: you're not mapping mania dude
17:46 Mark101: in std you must follow only 1 sound
17:46 _Meep_: .-.
17:47 _Meep_: 00:49:623 - 00:49:781 - violin thingy,going down in pitch(not sure how to call it)
17:48 _Meep_: 00:35:096 (2,3) - vocals
17:48 Mark101: nrn
17:48 Mark101: brb
17:48 _Meep_: 00:43:465 (4) - CTRL G breaks flow
17:49 Mark101: 00:52:149 (5) - overlaps with 00:52:149 (5) - , stack them or move the first (5)
17:49 Mark101: brb again ew i'm sorry
17:49 _Meep_: XD
17:50 Mark101: 00:52:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this half-overlaps looks so bad >.<
17:50 Mark101: 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this jumps makes no sense to be honest, you've always used a low spacing in this map
17:51 _Meep_: Uh,not exactly
17:51 _Meep_: 00:43:781 (1,2,3,4,5) -
17:51 _Meep_: 00:46:465 (1,2) -
17:51 _Meep_: 00:46:465 (1,2,3) -
17:52 Mark101: 00:58:939 (2,3) - why this stack? You before map jumps then stacks, please follow a structure...
17:52 Mark101: 01:03:833 (1,2) - absolutely not, you've almost overmapped the rest of the song, in the kiai you can't use this
17:53 _Meep_: I've been mapping stacks alot lol
17:53 Mark101: i meant in the kiai
17:53 _Meep_: .-.
17:53 Mark101: 01:05:096 (1) - overlaps with 01:03:833 (1) - but you must change it otherwise i will fucking kill myself
17:53 _Meep_: 00:58:939 (2,3) -
17:53 _Meep_: .-.
17:53 Mark101: 01:08:254 (4) - CTRL+G this and move it up, pls
17:54 _Meep_: Why ctrlG?
17:54 Mark101: You ruin flow and esthetics
17:54 _Meep_: it plays well
17:54 _Meep_: It doesnt ruin flow lol
17:54 _Meep_: Many players tried it
17:54 Mark101: okay but at least the aesthetic
17:54 _Meep_: none said it ruined flow
17:54 Mark101: it kills the esthetic
17:55 _Meep_: I dont think it looks bad aesthetically
17:55 Mark101: >.<
17:55 _Meep_: 01:08:254 (4) - If I were to ctrl+G this, 01:08:728 (5) - this would have no effect
17:55 _Meep_: like a useless jump
17:55 Mark101: 01:12:044 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - am I wrong or there's no streamy sound here
17:55 Mark101: 01:08:728 (5) - move this up then ew
17:56 _Meep_: there is
17:56 _Meep_: You can hear it
17:56 _Meep_: if u delte the notes
17:56 _Meep_: delete*
17:56 Mark101: i am not using hitsounds actually
17:56 _Meep_: 01:08:728 (5) - move it up where lol
17:56 Mark101: and i don't hear it tbh
17:56 _Meep_: I can hear it
17:56 _Meep_: lol
17:56 _Meep_: turn up ur volume XD
17:56 Mark101: no wait jk i said it wrong
17:57 _Meep_: 01:08:728 (5) - By moving it up,her voice would be going down than go up higher in pitch
17:57 Mark101: 01:17:096 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - spacing is a bit too much for an insane
17:57 _Meep_: but in this case its not
17:57 _Meep_: so moving up=bad
17:57 _Meep_: too much/ -.-
17:57 _Meep_: It follow the flow completely
17:57 Mark101: 01:30:360 (1) - dead
17:57 _Meep_: 01:11:728 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Like this
17:57 _Meep_: It may look hard
17:58 _Meep_: but in actuality,its not
17:58 _Meep_: Said by most testplayers
17:58 Mark101: maybe because you asked to high rank testplayers?
17:58 Mark101: 190 bpm streams are hard by themselves
17:58 Mark101: if you put a such spacing you want to kill people
17:59 _Meep_: No
17:59 _Meep_: I asked testplayers of range 10+ to 100k
17:59 _Meep_: lol
17:59 Mark101: :I
18:00 _Meep_: u can check the testplayers lol
18:00 Mark101: 00:02:886 (3,4) - it's not a normal, use an higher spacing for this
18:00 Mark101: OH
18:00 *Mark101 is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100513 Murasaki Hotaru - Re:TrymenT [Hard]]
18:00 Mark101: THIS NOW
18:00 Mark101: referring to 02:886, you used the spacing you had to in 00:04:149 (6,1) -
18:00 _Meep_: why not normal?
18:00 Mark101: p l s, use spacing
18:00 _Meep_: i c
18:01 Mark101: 00:06:675 (3,1) - same of before
18:01 _Meep_: done
18:01 Mark101: 00:20:096 (2,3) - spacing is too much low, objects overlaps
18:01 _Meep_: it barely overlaps
18:02 Mark101: 00:28:781 (4,5) - these two objects almost overlaps, put a bit more of spacing
18:02 Mark101: 00:30:991 (1) - stack properly to 00:30:202 (8) -
18:02 _Meep_: moved
18:03 _Meep_: changed
18:03 Mark101: 00:34:149 (6) - stack properly to 00:33:360 (4) -, then move 00:32:886 (3) - up, make it overlap with the slider end of 00:34:149 (6) -
18:03 Mark101: 00:35:412 (2) - stack with 00:34:149 (6) -
18:03 Mark101: stack my life
18:03 Mark101: 00:37:307 (6,1) - wtf
18:03 Mark101: why did you go so far to map this circle
18:04 Mark101: move it a lot more near
18:04 Mark101: and obviously move the rest of the pattern too
18:04 Mark101: 00:40:939 (2) - it's not an easy diff, don't follow the vocal so much...
18:05 _Meep_: Mapping the piano notes would kill lots of players
18:05 Mark101: 00:47:412 (8) - use the same spacing you used for 00:46:781 (6,7) -
18:05 _Meep_: making a difficulty spike
18:05 Mark101: 00:48:991 (4) - stack properly with 00:48:360 (3) -
18:06 _Meep_: Its stacked
18:06 _Meep_: lol
18:06 Mark101: not properlu
18:06 Mark101: jk my eyes is kidding me
18:06 _Meep_: it is .-.
18:06 _Meep_: lol
18:06 Mark101: 00:51:202 (3) - ctrl+g, it absolutely ruins aesthetic
18:07 _Meep_: yep
18:07 _Meep_: fixed
18:07 Mark101: 00:53:649 (5,6) - too much spacing for an hard
18:07 Mark101: and even for an insane
18:07 _Meep_: .-.
18:07 _Meep_: wat
18:07 Mark101: 00:54:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - wtf my heart exploded, the speed changes immediately
18:07 Mark101: why did you stack 3 couples and then you didn't in 00:55:781 (6,7) - ?
18:08 _Meep_: <3
18:08 _Meep_: 00:54:991 (1,2) - Negligible/too soft
18:08 _Meep_: 00:55:465 (4,5) - similar
18:08 _Meep_: 00:55:781 (6,7,8) - sound increases dramatically
18:08 Mark101: 01:00:044 (1) - almost overlaps with 00:59:412 (7) -, move (1) down
18:08 _Meep_: jumps in hard mode,ftw
18:08 *_Meep_ cough
18:09 _Meep_: =/
18:09 Mark101: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2) - hard to read for an hard (lol)
18:09 _Meep_: can i not move it down
18:09 _Meep_: XD
18:09 _Meep_: not hard to read
18:09 Mark101: 01:10:781 (3,4) - use the same spacing you used for 01:10:149 (1,2) -
18:09 _Meep_: I asked 200k players to play it,they could read it on first try XD
18:09 Mark101: it makes totally no sense otherwise
18:10 _Meep_: it is
18:10 Mark101: 01:11:412 (5,6,7,8) - mmmh the 1/1 pause out of nowhere kills me
18:10 _Meep_: same spacing
18:10 Mark101: i mean
18:10 Mark101: the same spacing you used to distance (1) - (2)
18:10 _Meep_: unless u want me to map the stream sound
18:10 _Meep_: lol
18:10 _Meep_: no its the same
18:10 Mark101: is different for (3) (4)
18:10 _Meep_: u can check lol
18:10 _Meep_: its just like .03 diff
18:10 Mark101: i don't mean the way you understood
18:11 Mark101: uhhh kill me i don't know how to explain
18:11 _Meep_: ??
18:11 _Meep_: lol
18:11 Mark101: 01:13:860 (5) - absolutely no sound for this and the spacing is too much high
18:12 _Meep_: theres the sound
18:12 _Meep_: .-.
18:12 Mark101: 01:15:675 (3) - this object ends on a strong beat, change that
18:12 Mark101: there isn't what the fuck are you hearing lmao
18:12 _Meep_: ??
18:12 _Meep_: As in,the transition of low to high pitch
18:13 Mark101: 01:17:096 (7,8) - too much spacing
18:13 _Meep_: i closed it up
18:13 _Meep_: cuz i knew you'd say dat
18:13 _Meep_: lol
18:13 Mark101: 01:19:307 (5,6,1) - this direction change triggers me but it's not an error overall
18:14 _Meep_: XD
18:14 Mark101: 01:21:360 (4) - noup, put a circle here and the slider in 01:21:517 -
18:14 _Meep_: .-.
18:14 _Meep_: y
18:14 _Meep_: im mapping to vocals
18:14 Mark101: jesus you pass from following the instrumental to the vocal and viceversa so much without sense
18:14 Mark101: OH WAIT
18:14 Mark101: NO MISHEARD
18:15 Mark101: KILL ME
18:15 _Meep_: .-.
18:15 _Meep_: lol
18:15 _Meep_: rip
18:15 Mark101: 01:23:728 (3,1) - consider to reduce the spacing here (01:22:465 (1,2) - from this), it looks bad for a 1/1 distance
18:15 Mark101: 01:26:412 (7) - cool shape, but it can be much better
18:15 _Meep_: wut
18:16 Mark101: 01:27:833 (2) - worst shape
18:16 Mark101: xd
18:16 _Meep_: fak uuuuuu
18:16 _Meep_: xd
18:16 Mark101: 01:29:096 (1) - ends on the beginning on a new part of the vocal, you can't
18:16 Mark101: there's also a beat which is much stronger than the rest
18:16 Mark101: the piano i mean
18:17 _Meep_: the vocals don't have a distinct transition between words
18:17 _Meep_: so I mapped to the instrumental instead
18:17 _Meep_: not like 'kimi to'
18:17 _Meep_: its like 'kimi wo'
18:17 _Meep_: idk
18:17 _Meep_: u can hear the T,not the W,kind of logic
18:17 Mark101: this would be ok, but not here because the slider ends on a strong beat
18:17 Mark101: you can't do that
18:17 Mark101: even if you're following the vocal
18:17 _Meep_: .-.
18:18 _Meep_: it starts on the strong beat
18:18 _Meep_: it ends on the strong beat
18:18 _Meep_: wats wrong o-o
18:18 Mark101: 01:30:360 - there is a jfc strong vocal+beat here
18:19 _Meep_: 01:30:360 - Not like putting a circle here will add more meaning to this part imo
18:19 Mark101: I've never seen a such nonsensed extra like nowa's flower tbh
18:19 _Meep_: .-.
18:19 _Meep_: how is it nonsensed XD
18:19 Mark101: too much long to explain
18:19 _Meep_: .-.
18:19 _Meep_: it's called 'ignoring useless sounds'
18:19 Mark101: 01:31:623 (2,3) - there's the same strong vocal+beat here, but you didn't use sliders
18:19 _Meep_: XD
18:19 Mark101: that's why i'd change in the sliderend
18:20 _Meep_: woo my insane is now back to 4.69*
18:20 _Meep_: <3
18:21 Mark101: do you like the 69 so much
18:21 Mark101: ?
18:22 _Meep_: uh
18:22 _Meep_: yes
18:22 _Meep_: :D
18:22 Mark101: ded
18:22 Mark101: posting the log :^
pawpads
mod irc, though not much to fix here :\ rank it so i can feel good about 'helping' thx

SPOILER
12:40 WhytFng: 00:10:781 (1,2,3) - in insane Re:Tryment
12:40 _Meep_: its like randomly mapped 2k16
12:40 WhytFng: this threw me off
12:40 _Meep_: Yea
12:40 _Meep_: Its a big DS
12:40 WhytFng: so far it's adjacent circles, this moves to the other end
12:40 WhytFng: but it flows
12:40 _Meep_: But I feel that its suitable due to the transition of the song from a slow to fast pace
12:40 WhytFng: exactly
12:40 WhytFng: just wanted to point it out
12:41 _Meep_: Yea
12:41 _Meep_: Many people do
12:41 _Meep_: and I have to be like 'yadadadadadadadada.....' again and again XD
12:41 WhytFng: 00:31:465 (2,3,4,5,6) - personally
12:41 WhytFng: i don't like these
12:41 WhytFng: but ignore that
12:41 _Meep_: yea,this part was supposed to be all the same DS
12:41 WhytFng: i just want to vent my hate for HELIX [Hyper]
12:41 _Meep_: but someone pointed out that bringing it closer played it better
12:41 WhytFng: srsly
12:41 _Meep_: lol helix
12:41 _Meep_: fakin shitmap5000
12:42 WhytFng: XD
12:42 WhytFng: tsubaki is worse
12:42 WhytFng: large grid the whole song
12:42 _Meep_: i can probs touchscreen EX if i play it for 2 days straight
12:42 WhytFng: XD
12:42 _Meep_: tsubaki.. -.-
12:42 WhytFng: exgon did it
12:42 _Meep_: Yea
12:42 _Meep_: And Im gona be the one to touchscreen lemur
12:42 _Meep_: <3
12:42 _Meep_: I nearly did
12:42 WhytFng: XD hahaha
12:42 WhytFng: i can almost pass HD
12:43 _Meep_: Im a HD player
12:43 _Meep_: full
12:43 WhytFng: :\
12:43 _Meep_: except for that one dan dan play
12:43 _Meep_: fk my life
12:43 WhytFng: dan dan chikoeru!
12:43 _Meep_: kikoeru*
12:43 _Meep_: lol
12:43 WhytFng: i don't japan bruh
12:43 WhytFng: 00:49:623 (4,5,6) - this
12:43 WhytFng: disgruntles me
12:43 WhytFng: XD
12:43 _Meep_: LUL
12:44 _Meep_: this part was originally worse than that
12:44 WhytFng: too many bad memories of chipscape
12:44 _Meep_: you'd be grateful for it being a triple only
12:44 _Meep_: https://gyazo.com/c2e967382fc23ff71094eafbd6003f29
12:44 _Meep_: this was what it was before
12:44 _Meep_: lol
12:45 WhytFng: oh fk no
12:45 WhytFng: 00:55:939 (7,8) - this
12:45 WhytFng: can i suggest moving them down
12:45 _Meep_: then some pro players(including xilver) testplayed this
12:45 _Meep_: <3
12:45 WhytFng: and toward the selter
12:45 _Meep_: nu
12:45 WhytFng: center
12:45 WhytFng: wtf
12:45 _Meep_: #hard
12:45 WhytFng: XD
12:46 _Meep_: that way it has better flow
12:46 WhytFng: ah, fine
12:46 WhytFng: XD
12:46 WhytFng: you mean you don't want to be quaver?
12:46 _Meep_: nu
12:46 _Meep_: quaver too stronk
12:46 _Meep_: 9x DS for last few notes
12:46 _Meep_: actually 11x
12:46 _Meep_: so fck that
12:47 WhytFng: 01:02:570 (1,2) - this DS change after these jumps
12:47 _Meep_: and the insane is 4.69*
12:47 _Meep_: <3
12:47 WhytFng: perhaps try swapping the sliderhead and circle placement
12:47 _Meep_: Yea,to prepare the players for the incoming jumps
12:47 _Meep_: because it's pretty big
12:48 WhytFng: ah
12:48 _Meep_: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
12:48 WhytFng: ahhhhh
12:48 WhytFng: okai, nvm then
12:48 _Meep_: And also,that part kinda calms down
12:48 _Meep_: so yea
12:48 WhytFng: well
12:49 WhytFng: you've rebutted all for insane
12:49 WhytFng: so gg
12:49 _Meep_: LOL
12:49 _Meep_: its like a debate for notes
12:49 WhytFng: i can't map k
12:49 WhytFng: XD
12:49 WhytFng: hahah
12:49 _Meep_: be arguing
12:49 _Meep_: thats what happens mostly
12:49 _Meep_: lol
12:50 WhytFng: you aren't supposed to change gd, right
12:50 WhytFng: only the guest is
12:50 _Meep_: Yea
12:50 WhytFng: so me modding it is useless unless they view the forum
12:50 WhytFng: kk
12:50 _Meep_: XD
12:50 _Meep_: yea
12:51 WhytFng: in hard
12:51 WhytFng: 01:05:096 (1,2,1,2,1,2) -
12:52 WhytFng: is this acceptible for hard?
12:52 WhytFng: idk
12:52 WhytFng: i'm actually asking
12:52 _Meep_: Yea
12:52 WhytFng: not like being rhetorical
12:52 _Meep_: Well
12:52 _Meep_: I guess
12:52 _Meep_: I asked rank 100k-200k players
12:52 _Meep_: they said its fine
12:52 _Meep_: lol
12:52 WhytFng: haha
12:52 WhytFng: k then
12:52 _Meep_: they played it pretty well
12:52 WhytFng: pretty well
12:52 WhytFng: XD lol
12:52 _Meep_: I asked xilver to play my map
12:52 _Meep_: and he was kind to accept
12:52 _Meep_: im happy
12:52 WhytFng: wow
12:53 _Meep_: he SSed the insane
12:53 _Meep_: LOL
12:53 _Meep_: as with others too
12:53 WhytFng: XD
12:53 WhytFng: god, i want to help
12:53 WhytFng: there's just nothing to fix in hard
12:54 _Meep_: XD
12:54 WhytFng: 00:20:886 (1,1) -
12:54 _Meep_: Its fine if you can't fix stuff,really,because it's quite polished and only experienced modders can find problems
12:54 _Meep_: not to say u cant
12:54 _Meep_: but its hard
12:54 WhytFng: this is way to fast for an easy player
12:54 WhytFng: too*
12:54 _Meep_: easy mode?
12:54 WhytFng: this spinner transition
12:54 WhytFng: yea
12:54 WhytFng: easy diff
12:55 _Meep_: Hmm
12:55 _Meep_: ur kinda right on that XD
12:55 _Meep_: I made the easy mode cuz someone said its needed
12:55 WhytFng: i can't read this ar
12:55 _Meep_: made it in 2h
12:55 WhytFng: so i can tell it's too fast XD
12:55 _Meep_: well who CAN read this ar lol
12:55 WhytFng: XD
12:55 WhytFng: ekoro
12:56 WhytFng: i'd say just
12:56 _Meep_: 00:20:412 - I extended start of the spinner to here
12:56 _Meep_: Ekoro,MillhioreF,-GN
12:56 _Meep_: these 3 gods
12:56 WhytFng: XD
12:56 WhytFng: that works too
12:56 WhytFng: i was going to suggest
12:57 WhytFng: hold on
12:57 WhytFng: XD
12:57 WhytFng: puush
12:57 WhytFng: https://puu.sh/rJ05T/a63aa32dc4.jpg
12:57 WhytFng: this
12:58 WhytFng: but with your idea
12:58 WhytFng: you keep downbeats
12:58 WhytFng: so it feels better
12:58 WhytFng: actually
12:58 WhytFng: idk
12:58 WhytFng: XD
12:58 _Meep_: Hmm
12:59 WhytFng: 01:16:307 (6) -
13:00 WhytFng: this offbeat
13:00 WhytFng: easy player wouldn't get that
13:00 WhytFng: they'd wait until the next white tick
13:00 _Meep_: thats why i spaced it out a bit
13:00 WhytFng: just move it to 01:16:465 (6) -
13:00 WhytFng: fixes everything
13:01 _Meep_: no that'd be overlapping with 01:15:202 (5) -
13:01 _Meep_: lol
13:01 WhytFng: woah
13:01 WhytFng: XD
13:01 _Meep_: XD
13:01 _Meep_: gotta think brah
13:01 _Meep_: im talking to 3 people at once
13:01 _Meep_: mein gott
13:01 WhytFng: wow
13:02 WhytFng: yea, that's all i have for easy too
13:02 WhytFng: ugh
13:02 WhytFng: i'm jealous of how solid it is
13:02 _Meep_: XD
13:02 _Meep_: Im jealous of how many mods u can get
13:03 WhytFng: haha
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