90% of modders who think they can conceptually understand this map are going to be modding it at 25 or 50% anyway
hmm this actually used to be a triangle triple 03:25:176 (2,3,1) - but gayz and talala both disliked it, after I changed it to this talala could pass it and said it's much better, well the movement isn't awkward at least, the spacing goes up on the strong guitar notes in this section and the triple is part of it (it's the whole white tick after the strongest guitar note, ex: 03:23:676 (1,2,3,4) - 03:24:137 (1,2,3) - 03:24:599 (1,2,3,4,1) - 03:25:060 (1,2,3,1) - and so on)Ekoro wrote:
this isn't disqualified yet come on /s
to me, a map shouldn't be disqualified because of raw difficulty ; even if everyone knows that a 15* would barely make it to ranking no matter how good the map is
the harder the map is, the less you should use technical patterns and use mostly flow-friendly patterns, so the map is still playable while retaining the challenge.
03:23:214 - 03:26:445 - this part is really a pain to play, especially 03:24:945 (3,1,2,3,1) which is really awkward to play because of the very high BPM
03:52:522 (1,2) - this may be too much, i don't really see why the spacing is so high and sudden here.
that's all here, the map is technically ok (even if i admit that there are some overdone jumps, but eh, can we justify it through the song?)
i feel like i already posted on this topic, giving exactly the same opinion
The RSI tag is a medical warning for people who plan to retry this map a ton of time because streams like these really mess up your hands without proper breaksmarshallracer wrote:
It is incredible how you're still allowed to use the "rsi" tag although it doesn't have to do ANYTHING with this map
Yeah, it's hard and stuff but why should it have relevance in this map (or any other map you've used it in for that matter)?
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
If it's about helping people to find "difficult" maps, that's not how tags are supposed to be used. They're predominantely meant for additional sources or relevant people/media/events (if any) it has relevance to.
This can be done in the description aswell without abusing the tags for thisRoseusJaeger wrote:
The RSI tag is a medical warning for people who plan to retry this map a ton of time because streams like these really mess up your hands without proper breaks
This is perfectly fine as long as this issue can and will be discussedBlue Dragon wrote:
just a quick reminder that tags can be changed without a DQ so finding wrong things there will not take the map down
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/368060 this map has rsi in the tags, and rightfully so. there isnt a reason why rsi SHOULDNT be in the tags of this mapmarshallracer wrote:
It is incredible how you're still allowed to use the "rsi" tag although it doesn't have to do ANYTHING with this map
Yeah, it's hard and stuff but why should it have relevance in this map (or any other map you've used it in for that matter)?
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
If it's about helping people to find "difficult" maps, that's not how tags are supposed to be used. They're predominantely meant for additional sources or relevant people/media/events (if any) it has relevance to.
>locking forum for a map in qualified, killing any discussionS A V E R Y wrote:
Never mind...
Somebody lock this thread...
It's just about the correct usage of tags reallyXendogenesis wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/368060 this map has rsi in the tags, and rightfully so. there isnt a reason why rsi SHOULDNT be in the tags of this mapmarshallracer wrote:
It is incredible how you're still allowed to use the "rsi" tag although it doesn't have to do ANYTHING with this map
Yeah, it's hard and stuff but why should it have relevance in this map (or any other map you've used it in for that matter)?
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
If it's about helping people to find "difficult" maps, that's not how tags are supposed to be used. They're predominantely meant for additional sources or relevant people/media/events (if any) it has relevance to.
after all its a 9 star map
but like, there's a connection between rsi and the mapmarshallracer wrote:
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
If you could elaborate that further I'd be glad to read how these two are connectedAncuL wrote:
but like, there's a connection between rsi and the mapmarshallracer wrote:
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
I listed my reasons why I am so salty about itMazzerin wrote:
why are you so salty Bakari once suggested and 'allowed' me to use it, ever since then I've been using it on any of my high bpm maps with lots of 1/2 and 1/4 in a row successfully
marshallracer wrote:
This can be done in the description aswell without abusing the tags for thisRoseusJaeger wrote:
The RSI tag is a medical warning for people who plan to retry this map a ton of time because streams like these really mess up your hands without proper breaks
If we're going after Shiirn's thoughts though :marshallracer wrote:
It's just about the correct usage of tags reallyXendogenesis wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/368060 this map has rsi in the tags, and rightfully so. there isnt a reason why rsi SHOULDNT be in the tags of this map
after all its a 9 star map
I realize it's a 9* diff, fine, but if you want to make clear to the players that they can hurt themselves while playing this map (which in itself sounds absurd, though it's not impossible), you can more than clearly state this in the creators words or even a sb (even if this may impair the maps appearence in the beginning)
I gave you a reason why you shouldn't use "rsi" as a tag, you even qouted it
We'd have to decide as to how we classify a tag such as "rsi", or why even bother using itShiirn wrote:
also memes can be put in tags fairly easily without anyone really giving a shit, missing or misleading tags are far more disruptive than superfluous tags
I know I didn't include a lot of the article but this are the key sentences. RSI is a medical condition. How is a medical condition as such related to any of the previously mentioned points, including the map itself? Did the drummer or guitarist suffer from RSI after playing this song repeatedly? Even so it wouldn't be relevant to the tags at all.Wikipedia wrote:
Repetitive strain injury (RSI) and associative trauma orders are umbrella terms used to refer to several discrete conditions that can be associated with repetitive tasks, forceful exertions, vibrations, mechanical compression, or sustained/awkward positions.
[...]
Some examples of symptoms experienced by patients with RSI are aching, pulsing pain, tingling and extremity weakness, initially presenting with intermittent discomfort and then, with a higher degree of frequency.
As marshallracer said, there definitely isn't. If you look at how you get rsi, it just makes no sense.AncuL wrote:
but like, there's a connection between rsi and the mapmarshallracer wrote:
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
Enon wrote:
don't find reason to make a map that you hate going to disqualify
Blue Dragon wrote:
just a quick reminder that tags can be changed without a DQ so finding wrong things there will not take the map down
why do you exclude the high bpm part from your ifmarshallracer wrote:
I listed my reasons why I am so salty about itMazzerin wrote:
why are you so salty Bakari once suggested and 'allowed' me to use it, ever since then I've been using it on any of my high bpm maps with lots of 1/2 and 1/4 in a row successfully
Even if Bakari "allowed" you to use it and you've used it several times already, it's still an incorrect usage of a tag
If "lots of 1/2 and 1/4" are the only requirement for a map to have rsi as a tag, then maybe I'd suggest to everyone who makes a map with streams, no matter the BPM or speed of those as long as they are 1/2 or 1/4, to put rsi in their tags
I'll have to admit I overread that and I'm sorry about itMazzerin wrote:
why do you exclude the high bpm part from your if
well people in the song select can search up "rsi" to find songs that might give them rsi, signifying the intense mapping. so, yoou could easily define this map as an rsi map, giving it purpose in the tags :^)AncuL wrote:
marshallracer wrote:
I see no connection between rsi and artist, song, album and/or mapper.
Do you mean by issues that you just personally cant read that part? Its not an issue If its just something you personally have trouble with. Have you thought of the chance of it not being meant to be easy to read?blahpy wrote:
readability issues
No, I mean that it's objectively hard to read. In the same way that, say, an old skystar map is hard to read. Being able to read it because you've watched that specific pattern in the editor 50 times on 25% doesn't count.Reddit wrote:
Do you mean by issues that you just personally cant read that part? Its not an issue If its just something you personally have trouble with. Have you thought of the chance of it not being meant to be easy to read?blahpy wrote:
readability issues
On my sightread play, I read that properly and had no issues with it?blahpy wrote:
No, I mean that it's objectively hard to read. In the same way that, say, an old skystar map is hard to read. Being able to read it because you've watched that specific pattern in the editor 50 times on 25% doesn't count.
1. Probably hitsound changes to emphasize different instruments.[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
I realize these won't be changed, but I still found them odd enough to address:
1. Why use six different SV values?
2. 04:00:137 (1) - How come you didn't put a spinner here instead. Musically, it actually makes more sense.
[ Eon Fox ] wrote:
I realize these won't be changed, but I still found them odd enough to address:
1. Why use six different SV values?
2. 04:00:137 (1) - How come you didn't put a spinner here instead. Musically, it actually makes more sense.
3. Isn't the HP a little too high? I mean, no one appears to have passed nomod, and at the very least, that should be able to be done.