Fantasy wrote:
8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable
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please give us a clarification on what you said means rather than just calling it unplayable because someone literally on the qualified section S'd itFantasy wrote:
Whagwha Victus' 4K Another
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8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable
Anyways man i've been hyped for this map congrats kami
lets just hope i can learn 8k from lr2 to come back and play this much love
Fantasy wrote:
8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable
Except, the song chord sequence or more exactly the pitch of the chords reflects that jumpy style, its not flowing like a Mozart piece. In my opinion its well maped.
The playability depends on the players skill set, so its subjective...
Topic Starter
I'm not exactly sure if this was suppossed to be a meme or not, but I don't see any examples of what exactly is bad, how is it bad and examples of how to make it better.Fantasy wrote:
Whagwha Victus' 4K Another
????? Honestly it's not even nearly as bad to play as it looks imo
8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable I'm pretty sure that "anti-flow" patterning is not unplayable at all and it's just harder and/or uncomfortable - which in my opinion is good since it fits the difficulty curve of the chart.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking the map down from qualified to inprove it, but what I want is a detailed mod from someone who can play the chart well. Take Fantasy's post as something I will most likely disregard.
If there's anything to complain... the hitsounding is..... ugh
8k melodie:
01:35:622 (95622|7,95622|2) - Missing clap XD
8k melodie:
01:35:622 (95622|7,95622|2) - Missing clap XD
I think what Fantasy trying to say is when the 1/4 mix with the 1/6 in a 4K diff, its really pain to play and it's hard to notice the different gap between each notes.
Due to the 4K it's limitation. Sometime it's better to choose only one instrument which is worthier to follow in the burst part(To avoid unnecessary difficulty). Instead of follow everything you heard or use such "detailed" pattern.
Not say the patterns are wrong, but i'm sure there is a better way to map this part
Just drop some feedback here hope its ok
Due to the 4K it's limitation. Sometime it's better to choose only one instrument which is worthier to follow in the burst part(To avoid unnecessary difficulty). Instead of follow everything you heard or use such "detailed" pattern.
Not say the patterns are wrong, but i'm sure there is a better way to map this part
Just drop some feedback here hope its ok
Topic Starter
Hmm, yeah I understand that. I kinda wanted to give Whag's diff a bit more spice by making those polirhythms, but on second thought I should just keep it simpler, especially since it's not the last diff.
I'll wait for a bit more to gather more suggestions and then ask for a DQ, thanks!
I'll wait for a bit more to gather more suggestions and then ask for a DQ, thanks!
agree it's kinda gay so
in no particular order
Whagwha Victus' 4K Another
(i removed 1 note to achieve all of this btw)
Timestamp just incase you get lost: 01:42:872 (102872|0) -
Suggestion 1
- polyrhythms stair to the left to fit PR (holyshit!)
- I shifted the jumptrill later since the minitrill to chord transition is kinda difficult
Suggestion 2
- no idea what this is but it's kinda harder
- i just made this randomly but it plays ok
Suggestion 3
- holy shit the PR
- more jumptrill/gallop oriented instead of trilling really fast
- transitions to the next chord kinda well due to the 2 1 {12} gallop - to - chord transition
Suggestion 4
- fallback pattern just in case everything goes wrong
- easiest out of all of these i do believe
- transition to the last chord is kinda ok (for me at least)
in no particular order
Whagwha Victus' 4K Another
(i removed 1 note to achieve all of this btw)
Timestamp just incase you get lost: 01:42:872 (102872|0) -
- polyrhythms stair to the left to fit PR (holyshit!)
- I shifted the jumptrill later since the minitrill to chord transition is kinda difficult
- no idea what this is but it's kinda harder
- i just made this randomly but it plays ok
- holy shit the PR
- more jumptrill/gallop oriented instead of trilling really fast
- transitions to the next chord kinda well due to the 2 1 {12} gallop - to - chord transition
- fallback pattern just in case everything goes wrong
- easiest out of all of these i do believe
- transition to the last chord is kinda ok (for me at least)
If this map is gonna get a DQ, i want to add my two cents on the 7 star 8k diff
02:02:388 (122388|4) - I think if this note was at col 3 would be a better intro for the heavy chords ahead
And for the chord smash pattering i was thinking you'd mix it up rather than using it the way it is, i dunno maybe you can include scratch three or four times the map itself feels inflated by that last segment so if you made it somewhat more interesting to chord smash on it would be overall better for the map itself this is just a suggestion don't need to follow through it.
And for the chord smash pattering i was thinking you'd mix it up rather than using it the way it is, i dunno maybe you can include scratch three or four times the map itself feels inflated by that last segment so if you made it somewhat more interesting to chord smash on it would be overall better for the map itself this is just a suggestion don't need to follow through it.
Topic Starter
@Zenny I personally prefer the 3rd suggestion because it's the easiest to handle, but will ask around what people think about them and choose what people who can fc this chart prefer prob
and changed pattern at 02:02:191 - to be more structurally solid via underjoy's suggestion:
Additionally after watching jakads' play on 8K I decided to smoothen up the pattern at 01:27:125 - a little to this:Soul Evans wrote:
If this map is gonna get a DQ, i want to add my two cents on the 7 star 8k diff02:02:388 (122388|4) - I think if this note was at col 3 would be a better intro for the heavy chords ahead This creates a pretty nasty anchor on 3rd column
And for the chord smash pattering i was thinking you'd mix it up rather than using it the way it is, i dunno maybe you can include scratch three or four times the map itself feels inflated by that last segment so if you made it somewhat more interesting to chord smash on it would be overall better for the map itself this is just a suggestion don't need to follow through it. Nope, I can't - first of all I layered all possible scratches dictated by the song apart from maybe one or two and secondly adding any more notes on the wall will make 7-chords which is unrankable (not to mention that it would boost SR even more)
and changed pattern at 02:02:191 - to be more structurally solid via underjoy's suggestion:
Topic Starter
Allright, I've asked jakads to help me out with some suggestions, he said thst he'll do it later today, so I'm ready for DQ.
Things to fix:
-That one hitsound pointed out by stryver and maybe volume on the end of 8k Triestesse - 3-chords aren't that much of a problem in other diffs
-Smooth out the end of the stair 3-chord part in Triestesse
-Revise the patterns in later section of Triestesse
-Smooth out and possibly nerf the most intense lart of the buildup right before the 6-chord stair in Triestesse
-Tidek is going to revise the last part of the buildup as well since Gadget told me that it's ass
-Revise and nerf both polyrhythm and the part after it on Whag's diff
gotta make a screen of the downvotes as well, this is just epik owob
Thank you to everyone who helped me with the chart so far and if you have any complaints and/or suggestions - please post here, I will hear you out and try to make sufficient fixes!
Things to fix:
-That one hitsound pointed out by stryver and maybe volume on the end of 8k Triestesse - 3-chords aren't that much of a problem in other diffs
-Smooth out the end of the stair 3-chord part in Triestesse
-Revise the patterns in later section of Triestesse
-Smooth out and possibly nerf the most intense lart of the buildup right before the 6-chord stair in Triestesse
-Tidek is going to revise the last part of the buildup as well since Gadget told me that it's ass
-Revise and nerf both polyrhythm and the part after it on Whag's diff
gotta make a screen of the downvotes as well, this is just epik owob
Thank you to everyone who helped me with the chart so far and if you have any complaints and/or suggestions - please post here, I will hear you out and try to make sufficient fixes!
DQ requested by the mapper to apply some changes. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Thanks! Made a first batch of changes happen, waiting on feedback
i was afk, sorry if i didn't give a detailed explanation on my mod, I thought picture or statement would say everything, usually my mods are like that. seems that everyone understood, thanks. Nice changes.
Topic Starter
Not really sure if you meant only this part specifically, since IMO the actual 6-chord stair section should probably be changed too. Many months ago when I tried this chart for the first time I was under the impression that with conditioning, the pattern would just end up being comfortable over time. Over time, I never really saw much improvement from the 6-jack section and if I did set a personal record for the chart it seemed to have to do with getting lucky with the mashing on the 6-jack section. Playing it again now, I felt that the 6-jack section was harder to hit than the section before it (although both sections are very hard to hit in general). I'm guessing you were going for a pitch relevant section with the 6-chord section but with a section as dense and as fast as that I think pitch relevancy should be ignored. I don't think it's necessary to remove any notes in that 6-chord section, just moving some of the notes around to create more readable and playable jacks should be ok. I'll see if maybe I can try to come up with some patterns and run them by you since I feel bad bringing up an error without a more definitive solution. Other than that I agree with all of the changes you want to make, good luck my dude.-Kamikaze- wrote:
Things to fix:
-Smooth out and possibly nerf the most intense part of the buildup right before the 6-chord stair in Triestesse
tldr: your patterns are too complexity :VV
Topic Starter
I can agree with that honestly, especially since you can actually play that chart waaaaay better than me. I'll wait for you or jaka to give me a better suggestion for the pattern - but I don't want to do something as boring as a straight up [123567] jack.
Im not changing anything, patterns in the last part are good enough and balanced in difficulty. Not gonna make easier patterns to spam or reduce chords in handstream.-Kamikaze- wrote:
-Tidek is going to revise the last part of the buildup as well since Gadget told me that it's ass
everything starting from there might be an anti-flow but everything starting from 00:09:949 - here is not playableFantasy wrote:
8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable
....? I hope that's sarcasm...AncuL wrote:
everything starting from there might be an anti-flow but everything starting from 00:09:949 - here is not playableFantasy wrote:
8K Melodie de tristesse
01:25:445 - everything starting from here is anti flow and not playable
Topic Starter
Okay, jaka said that the chart is now okay (he had problems with the transition on the end of 3 stair chord with scratches but I've fixed that already) but it's just too fast to hit properly. I do want to make it doable tho, so I thought about it for a bit and changed the wall on Triestesse to this:
which both is easier to do and keeps pitch relevancy somewhat in touch. Please give opinions as it's the last out of all things I wanted to fix and I wanna get this back to qualified
which both is easier to do and keeps pitch relevancy somewhat in touch. Please give opinions as it's the last out of all things I wanted to fix and I wanna get this back to qualified
Lol, I considered this ded a long time ago, but it got qualified and DQ'd before I even noticed lol.
Anyways, I did a check on my Normal diffs and I gotta say They are shit holy fuck, dunno how sane I was back when I mapped it
So...........doing some fixes here and there (no adding notes and shit, just balancing and comfortability), I'll bring update along with ETastic's IRC mod in around 1-2 hours
Anyways, I did a check on my Normal diffs and I gotta say They are shit holy fuck, dunno how sane I was back when I mapped it
So...........doing some fixes here and there (no adding notes and shit, just balancing and comfortability), I'll bring update along with ETastic's IRC mod in around 1-2 hours
Kaito is triggering me with his atrocious 8k hand balance
Basically went over lots of hand balance stuff in 8k, so it should be more balanced; in 4k, we just went over patterns and I got triggered a few times but that's ok 2016-10-07 23:01 Kaito-kun: on a scale from 1 to fucked, how 10 I am?
2016-10-07 23:01 Kaito-kun: X
2016-10-07 23:01 Kaito-kun: D
2016-10-07 23:01 Protastic101: -T R I F G E R E D-
2016-10-07 23:02 Kaito-kun: so, 10?
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: ehhhh, little lower
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: It's to the point where I'm scared that it even made it into rankings
2016-10-07 23:02 Kaito-kun: ayyyy :^)
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: :<<<<
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: Ok, first, can we just get the hand balance in 8K out of the way?
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: It's fucking atrocious and makes me want to cut off my right left hand since I don't need it most of the time
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: Imma play it again real quick
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: "right left hand"
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: that's how triggered it made me
2016-10-07 23:05 Protastic101: ET pls
2016-10-07 23:05 Kaito-kun: ok, it even triggered me
2016-10-07 23:06 Kaito-kun: and it's under my name lmao
2016-10-07 23:06 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:06 Protastic101: lemme retry this shit fam
2016-10-07 23:08 Protastic101: still did horribly rip
2016-10-07 23:08 Protastic101: hand balance tho Q_Q
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: 01:19:713 (79713|5,79713|7) -
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: Oh yeah that
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: idk if it's just me, but middle finger + pinkie is impossible to hit properly >.<
2016-10-07 23:11 Kaito-kun: wrong pattern (?
2016-10-07 23:11 Protastic101: 01:18:764 (78764|5,78764|3,79173|4,79173|6,79713|7,79713|5) - If you wanna keep this stair pattern thing, I'd just consider shifting it one column to the left so that 01:19:713 (79713|7,79713|5) - becomes {57}
2016-10-07 23:11 Protastic101: since index + ring finger is way easier
2016-10-07 23:12 Protastic101: I'm just looking at the stuff I sent in Discord first lol
2016-10-07 23:12 Protastic101: 01:51:559 (111559|1,111809|0,112059|0,112309|2,112434|0) -
2016-10-07 23:13 Kaito-kun: oh, haven't checked that :^)
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: rip
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: I'm going through it now cause idk what I was thinking when I gave those timestamps XD
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: Anyways, for the one I just sent, hand balance pls
2016-10-07 23:13 Kaito-kun: I noticed XD
2016-10-07 23:14 01:51:559 (111559|1,112309|2) - please put these on the right hand cause the pinkie scratches plus the LN and SN on the same hand are *jumps off cliff*
2016-10-07 23:16 Kaito-kun: gimme a sec, I'm sort of balancing the whole map out XD
2016-10-07 23:16 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:16 Protastic101: k, you do that and I'ma go farm some pp in CtB :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: pixel jumps should be fucking unrankable
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: holy fuck, I don't even know how Julie-tan and Block-to-the-0 ranked this lmao
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: I'm fixing patterning on almost everything :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: now I know how much cancer I had in myself back when I started mapping :^)
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: great, that means I won't get as trifgered
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: lol rip
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: I wish I hadn't deleted my very first map
2016-10-07 23:21 Kaito-kun: same tbh fam
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: cancer itself wouldn't dare touch the cancer that was my first map
2016-10-07 23:21 Kaito-kun: it was shit tho
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: ACTION cries
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: Nah, it wasn't that bad
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: But if I were to begin playing mania and that's the first ever map I played, I'd probably quit :^)
2016-10-07 23:44 Kaito-kun: btw
2016-10-07 23:44 Kaito-kun: do you consider the ending trill a bit much?
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: 8K?
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: ah
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: about that
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: I think the trill itself is fine, but it'd be better to move the notes onto stronger fingers like the index ones
2016-10-07 23:45 Protastic101: the {8} notes on the pinky get really tiring, especially if you're new to 8K
2016-10-07 23:45 Kaito-kun: actually, that trill was added because the diff was too underrated as it was :^)
2016-10-07 23:45 Protastic101: Add 1/16 streams :^)
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271353
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: ???
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: you want a Normal, or a Nuke? :^)
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: Jesus christ
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: and yeah, right side is Melodie of Tristesse diff
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: but let's not mind the small Minseo-like stuff
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: No wonder Kami said he was trying to fix that
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: I wondered what was so bad about it
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:52 Protastic101: but I didn't look at the diffs
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: the ending is intense as fuck
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: I find it ok tbh
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: but I would never map it like that lol
2016-10-07 23:53 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:53 Protastic101: I now know where Dad learns his mapping :^)))
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: he got inspired by the french tournament :^)
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: ahem..........so, is that pattern ok?
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: or do I need to nuke it?
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: (the left one ofc)
2016-10-07 23:55 Protastic101: Nah, left hand is fine, right hand maybe. I think the {6-7} is fine, but index finger might still be better
2016-10-07 23:55 Kaito-kun: oh, and don't worry about time, already posted I was fixing NM
2016-10-07 23:55 Protastic101: oh ok
2016-10-07 23:57 Kaito-kun: you said 4K had little problems, right?
2016-10-07 23:58 Protastic101: Mostly visuals and stuff
2016-10-08 00:00 Kaito-kun: ok, then I'll send you the 8K diff update and then we take a look at 4k, ok?
2016-10-08 00:00 Protastic101: kk
2016-10-08 00:01 Kaito-kun: do I export it or smt?
2016-10-08 00:01 Kaito-kun: shit, brb
2016-10-08 00:01 Protastic101: just send me the .osu
2016-10-08 00:06 Protastic101: alright, spec me to make sure I have the right version
2016-10-08 00:08 Protastic101: o rip
2016-10-08 00:08 Kaito-kun: yup, right version
2016-10-08 00:08 Protastic101: Well, I still suck at it :^)
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: RIP :^)
2016-10-08 00:11 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: so, it's way more balanced and comfortable that before
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: (and actually follow pitch more)
2016-10-08 00:11 Protastic101: "follow pitch more" 00:34:377 (34377|5,34827|4) -
2016-10-08 00:12 Protastic101: jkjk
2016-10-08 00:12 Protastic101: comfort > PR
2016-10-08 00:14 Protastic101: 00:33:477 (33477|7,33927|6,34377|5) - Btw, I feel like you should end these LNs 1/2 beat early if you want to properly represent the piano ehre
2016-10-08 00:14 Protastic101: here*
2016-10-08 00:17 Protastic101: 00:34:827 (34827|4,34902|0) - Also, for sake of convenience, just start the LN with the crash. The piano doesn't start until 00:34:902 - anyways
2016-10-08 00:18 Protastic101: 00:40:227 (40227|4,40377|5) - for consistency too, jack these since you jacked 00:37:827 (37827|5,37977|5) - and they're similar piano sounds
2016-10-08 00:18 Kaito-kun: 1. Dunno tbh, will think about it
2016-10-08 00:19 Kaito-kun: 2. There's piano where the LN starts, I also would like to avoid it, but my consistent self tells me not to..............will think about it tho
2016-10-08 00:19 Protastic101: 00:43:977 (43977|4,44277|5,44577|6,44877|7) - PR here, flip the notes so they're descending. I'd also suggest spreading it out over both hands a little more
2016-10-08 00:19 Kaito-kun: 3. Done
2016-10-08 00:20 Kaito-kun: did a 8-6-4-2 pattern with the LNs
2016-10-08 00:20 Protastic101: cewl
2016-10-08 00:21 Protastic101: 00:49:677 (49677|4,49827|3) - Shift this one to the right. Every time I look at it, I keep thinking it's supposed to be on the right hand when only 00:49:677 (49677|4) - is on the right hand, but that's more my personal opinion
2016-10-08 00:22 Kaito-kun: did as you said and fixed some things a bit upwards
2016-10-08 00:22 Protastic101: 00:52:602 (52602|4,52752|5,52902|6,53052|7,53202|6,53352|5,53502|4) - pls mah hand
2016-10-08 00:23 Protastic101: A solution to the above problem might be something like shifting 00:52:302 (52302|2,52452|3,52602|4,52752|5,52902|6,53052|7) - one to the left
2016-10-08 00:23 Kaito-kun: lmao, just noticed I had a note missing :^)
2016-10-08 00:23 Protastic101: lol rip
2016-10-08 00:24 Kaito-kun: 00:52:152 (52152|1) - here
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: 00:53:202 (53202|6,53352|5) - then move these two onto separate hands and stuff
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: o rly
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: I have a note there tho lol
2016-10-08 00:24 Kaito-kun: I don't...............???
???
2016-10-08 00:25 Protastic101: wat
2016-10-08 00:26 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271494 :^)
2016-10-08 00:26 Protastic101: beautiful, 10/10, brings a tear to my hand, will not cut off unnecessary left hand now
2016-10-08 00:27 Protastic101: 00:58:752 (58752|3,58902|4) - try making this a mirror pattern of 00:58:602 (58602|7,59052|5) - so like moving 00:58:752 (58752|3) - to 2 and 00:58:902 (58902|4) - to 4
2016-10-08 00:29 Kaito-kun: it's looks and plays better as it is imo :v
2016-10-08 00:29 Protastic101: oki
2016-10-08 00:29 Protastic101: 00:59:652 (59652|1,59852|3,60052|5) - Same pitch so maybe do a minitrill like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271513
2016-10-08 00:31 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:31 Kaito-kun: looks better like that
2016-10-08 00:32 Protastic101: 01:01:652 (61652|4,61852|5,62052|7) - same thing for this but it might look uglier so idk
2016-10-08 00:33 Kaito-kun: na, I'll leave it like that
2016-10-08 00:33 Protastic101: 01:02:652 (62652|3,62952|1) - You could try making these jacked doubles like so since they're the same sound and accented https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271524
2016-10-08 00:33 Kaito-kun: it'll be a bit confusing timing-wise if I blend 1/3 with 1/2
2016-10-08 00:34 Kaito-kun: trying to make them distinguishable while relying on pitch and comfortability
2016-10-08 00:36 Kaito-kun: na, I'll leave as it is
2016-10-08 00:36 Protastic101: k
2016-10-08 00:37 Protastic101: 01:09:486 (69486|5,69901|7,70037|4) - Hand pls. Make it a roll or something at least if you're gonna keep it on the right hand.
2016-10-08 00:37 Protastic101: 01:08:583 (68583|3,69198|3) - also, for symmetry, I'd consider moving these to {3} so it's hit with both middle fingers
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: what you mean with the 1st suggestion?
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: and 2 is a no, I find it ok there :v
2016-10-08 00:38 Protastic101: First suggestion just feels uncomfortable to go from middle finger, to pinky, to index
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: so your reccomendation would be?
2016-10-08 00:39 Protastic101: 01:09:901 (69901|7) - I might just consider moving this to the left hand instead to keep the pattern at 01:10:037 (70037|4,70310|1,70583|5,70719|2) -
2016-10-08 00:41 Kaito-kun: moved to 3
2016-10-08 00:42 Protastic101: 01:15:901 (75901|2) - also think this might be better in 5 cause of the weird finger shift on the left hand with 01:15:628 (75628|1,75764|3,75901|2) -
2016-10-08 00:43 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:46 Protastic101: 01:19:173 (79173|3,79173|5) - Feels easier to me if this is solely on the left hand, so like {34} and move 01:19:310 (79310|2) - to 2?
2016-10-08 00:47 Protastic101: 01:19:173 (79173|3,79310|2) - or the uncomfort might come from the fact I try to play this as a simple {4-3-2-1} roll
2016-10-08 00:47 Protastic101: So with that, you could instead just shift those two notes one to the left
2016-10-08 00:48 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:49 Kaito-kun: but made 01:19:713 (79713|1,80122|3) - change columns
2016-10-08 00:49 Protastic101: k
2016-10-08 00:49 Kaito-kun: 01:19:713 (79713|3,80122|2) - now
2016-10-08 00:49 Protastic101: 01:24:356 (84356|3,84478|0,84723|2,84845|0,85085|1,85205|0) - Whew, this got difficult
2016-10-08 00:50 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271591 What about this?
2016-10-08 00:50 Protastic101: I moved the LN at 01:25:445 (85445|3) - to 3 to avoid a jack with the note in 4 at 01:25:085 -
2016-10-08 00:51 Kaito-kun: looks way better than me on the morning :^)
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: pls, u dun even no wut i look like in the morning
2016-10-08 00:51 Kaito-kun: oh, but LN on 3 is a bit harsh imo
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: Imagine you nuking me, then multiply that by 1000 :^)
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: You could just jack it instead and move 01:25:445 (85445|7) - to be jacked too if you want
2016-10-08 00:52 Protastic101: but that's a cancerous suggestion
2016-10-08 00:52 Kaito-kun: na, moved to 5
2016-10-08 00:52 Protastic101: o that works 2
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: 01:59:578 - wat
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: I have no idea what I just read
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: gimme a sec
2016-10-08 00:55 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-08 00:55 Kaito-kun: trying to assimilate that piece of shit? :^)
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: Seriously
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: I have no idea
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: htf to read that
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: nor I
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: and I'm the mapper :^)
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271619 give this a shot
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: so.........do I call Deif for the Nuke Icon, or na? :^)
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: Easier to read, a little left hand heavy tho
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: XD
2016-10-08 00:57 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:59 Kaito-kun: so, we finished with 8K?
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: no
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: hold on
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: I'm looking at that ending
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: cause playing through it a couple times has me tripping up on it now :^)
2016-10-08 01:01 Kaito-kun: I changed it tho :^)
2016-10-08 01:01 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271639
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: ok then
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: I'm cool with 8K
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: 4K shouldn't take that long
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: weeee
2016-10-08 01:05 Kaito-kun: \:D/
2016-10-08 01:06 Kaito-kun: (this IRC will probably reach the fucking character limit lmao)
2016-10-08 01:06 Protastic101: nahhhh
2016-10-08 01:06 Protastic101: I still need to save some space to rant about HS :^)
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: Btw, most of these suggestions are visual, and therefore opinion and shit
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: so what looks ugly af to me may look 10/10 would eyegasm again to you
2016-10-08 01:07 Kaito-kun: ACTION prepares to deny the living hell outta everything :^)
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: :^)))))
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: I was supposed to do stuff
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: my bad
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: 00:13:527 (13527|1,13677|3,13827|2) -
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: wee
2016-10-08 01:14 Protastic101: Anyways, as I said, visuals, so maybe a roll might be more fitting? Like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271717
2016-10-08 01:14 Kaito-kun: did the exact opposite :^)
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: so crool
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: I feel fokin oppressed
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: 00:17:577 (17577|2,17577|0) - seriously, you use this {13} double way too often
2016-10-08 01:15 Kaito-kun: lol
2016-10-08 01:16 Kaito-kun: fixed
2016-10-08 01:17 Protastic101: 00:25:977 (25977|2,26127|3) - where's mah jack like in 8k
2016-10-08 01:19 Kaito-kun: no jack there on 8k tho
2016-10-08 01:19 Protastic101: o rip
2016-10-08 01:19 Protastic101: oops
2016-10-08 01:20 Protastic101: 01:00:552 (60552|2) - Eh, move to 1 just for a roll?
2016-10-08 01:20 Protastic101: 00:59:652 (59652|0,59852|1,60052|2) - oh yeah, also that minitrill stuff I mentioned in the 8k
2016-10-08 01:21 Protastic101: 01:02:652 (62652|1,62952|0) - Also, maybe try jacking these since they're a bit more accented and also the same sound as each other
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: 01:09:765 (69765|2,69901|3) - and control J so that it's a broken roll
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: 01:13:174 - where dafuq u hide da crash
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: Add another note in 4 pls
2016-10-08 01:23 Protastic101: 01:15:492 (75492|3,75628|2,75764|3) - also, one handed, why? Make it on both hands cause it plays a little awkwardly on the right hand only
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 1. Did something else
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 2. Done
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 3. No :v
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 4. sure
2016-10-08 01:24 Kaito-kun: 5. Dunno what happened there lol
2016-10-08 01:24 Protastic101: u crash oppressor
2016-10-08 01:24 Kaito-kun: 6. fixed
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: 01:16:855 - same here, but not really as necessary since you didn't do in the 8k diff
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: 01:17:946 - Either make this a double or reduce the double in 8k https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271756
2016-10-08 01:25 Kaito-kun: na, I actually chose to ignore them when an LN ended
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: u crash oppressor
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: 01:20:531 - Here too, you used a single in 4k but a double in 8k
2016-10-08 01:26 Kaito-kun: because it would end up with the SR higher than 2* :^(
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: wao
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: it's 1.9*, u Bakatastic
2016-10-08 01:27 Protastic101: ACTION claps
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: I FUCKING BLAME PEPPY FOR THIS
2016-10-08 01:27 Protastic101: Lemme nerf it for you >:)
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: (pls no bannerino)
2016-10-08 01:28 Protastic101: 01:33:247 (93247|2,93372|1) - Shift twice to the right cause 01:33:372 (93372|1,93497|0,93622|1) - is what is life
2016-10-08 01:29 Protastic101: 01:34:872 (94872|1) - also, rather than use this LN here, the piano plays 4 notes of the same pitch, so maybe try something like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271775
2016-10-08 01:29 Protastic101: 01:40:372 (100372|1,100497|0,100622|1) - pls, my eye cancer
2016-10-08 01:30 Protastic101: 01:40:372 (100372|1) - move to 1 and 01:40:497 (100497|0) - to 4 so it's like an outside-in pattern
2016-10-08 01:30 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271787
2016-10-08 01:30 Kaito-kun: 1. did something lol
2016-10-08 01:30 Kaito-kun: 2. na, I'll keep
2016-10-08 01:31 Kaito-kun: 3. fixed, but can't cure your cancer :^)
2016-10-08 01:31 Protastic101: dam son
2016-10-08 01:31 Protastic101: so crool
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: 01:45:372 (105372|0,105372|2,105997|0,105997|2) - WHY ONE AFTER THE OTHER
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: I FUCKING HATE THAT KIND OF CHORD AND YOU USE IT WILLY NILLY
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: GIVE THE OTHER CHORDS SOME LOVE FFS
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: ACTION commits suicide
2016-10-08 01:34 Protastic101: 01:49:309 (109309|2,109434|0,109434|3) - also, if you wanna make it a little more beginner friendly, I think this would be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271806 cause the 1/4 is on one hand and the double on another and idk
2016-10-08 01:35 Protastic101: 01:58:633 - donde esta el crasho
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: 02:00:827 (120827|0,120827|3) - I'd also consider extending these LNs to end at 02:04:026 - cause 02:02:582 (122582|1,122582|2) - builds on top of them I think
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: 02:05:168 - this looks fucking cancerous fam
2016-10-08 01:36 Kaito-kun: 1. lmao
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271818
2016-10-08 01:36 Kaito-kun: 2. sure
2016-10-08 01:37 Kaito-kun: 3. Junto con mi corazon, perdido en el oceano :^)
2016-10-08 01:37 Protastic101: #muydeepo
2016-10-08 01:37 Kaito-kun: 4. lmao
2016-10-08 01:38 Protastic101: is lmao yes or no?
2016-10-08 01:39 Kaito-kun: yes lol
2016-10-08 01:39 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:39 Kaito-kun: 1.91* \o/
2016-10-08 01:39 Protastic101: what about 5?
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: R U OPPRESSING THE FIFTH SUGGESTION
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: U CISHET SCUM
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: I'M FOKIN TRIGGERED
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: CUM UN
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: FIT MI
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: 1V1 RUST UNLI SNAIPA
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: I FITE CHU ENYDAI
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: oops, wrong game
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: CAN'T STOP ME WITH THE POWER OF THE MEXICAN HUARACHES
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: k, can I post now tho?
2016-10-08 01:41 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: I still might ask someone else about checking the 8k tho
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: Hand balance still seems a bit off, but idk what you have right now so I might recheck it later
2016-10-07 23:01 Kaito-kun: X
2016-10-07 23:01 Kaito-kun: D
2016-10-07 23:01 Protastic101: -T R I F G E R E D-
2016-10-07 23:02 Kaito-kun: so, 10?
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: ehhhh, little lower
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: It's to the point where I'm scared that it even made it into rankings
2016-10-07 23:02 Kaito-kun: ayyyy :^)
2016-10-07 23:02 Protastic101: :<<<<
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: Ok, first, can we just get the hand balance in 8K out of the way?
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: It's fucking atrocious and makes me want to cut off my right left hand since I don't need it most of the time
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: Imma play it again real quick
2016-10-07 23:03 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: "right left hand"
2016-10-07 23:03 Protastic101: that's how triggered it made me
2016-10-07 23:05 Protastic101: ET pls
2016-10-07 23:05 Kaito-kun: ok, it even triggered me
2016-10-07 23:06 Kaito-kun: and it's under my name lmao
2016-10-07 23:06 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:06 Protastic101: lemme retry this shit fam
2016-10-07 23:08 Protastic101: still did horribly rip
2016-10-07 23:08 Protastic101: hand balance tho Q_Q
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: 01:19:713 (79713|5,79713|7) -
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: Oh yeah that
2016-10-07 23:10 Protastic101: idk if it's just me, but middle finger + pinkie is impossible to hit properly >.<
2016-10-07 23:11 Kaito-kun: wrong pattern (?
2016-10-07 23:11 Protastic101: 01:18:764 (78764|5,78764|3,79173|4,79173|6,79713|7,79713|5) - If you wanna keep this stair pattern thing, I'd just consider shifting it one column to the left so that 01:19:713 (79713|7,79713|5) - becomes {57}
2016-10-07 23:11 Protastic101: since index + ring finger is way easier
2016-10-07 23:12 Protastic101: I'm just looking at the stuff I sent in Discord first lol
2016-10-07 23:12 Protastic101: 01:51:559 (111559|1,111809|0,112059|0,112309|2,112434|0) -
2016-10-07 23:13 Kaito-kun: oh, haven't checked that :^)
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: rip
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: I'm going through it now cause idk what I was thinking when I gave those timestamps XD
2016-10-07 23:13 Protastic101: Anyways, for the one I just sent, hand balance pls
2016-10-07 23:13 Kaito-kun: I noticed XD
2016-10-07 23:14 01:51:559 (111559|1,112309|2) - please put these on the right hand cause the pinkie scratches plus the LN and SN on the same hand are *jumps off cliff*
2016-10-07 23:16 Kaito-kun: gimme a sec, I'm sort of balancing the whole map out XD
2016-10-07 23:16 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:16 Protastic101: k, you do that and I'ma go farm some pp in CtB :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: pixel jumps should be fucking unrankable
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: holy fuck, I don't even know how Julie-tan and Block-to-the-0 ranked this lmao
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: I'm fixing patterning on almost everything :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Protastic101: :^)
2016-10-07 23:20 Kaito-kun: now I know how much cancer I had in myself back when I started mapping :^)
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: great, that means I won't get as trifgered
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: lol rip
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: I wish I hadn't deleted my very first map
2016-10-07 23:21 Kaito-kun: same tbh fam
2016-10-07 23:21 Protastic101: cancer itself wouldn't dare touch the cancer that was my first map
2016-10-07 23:21 Kaito-kun: it was shit tho
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: ACTION cries
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: Nah, it wasn't that bad
2016-10-07 23:24 Protastic101: But if I were to begin playing mania and that's the first ever map I played, I'd probably quit :^)
2016-10-07 23:44 Kaito-kun: btw
2016-10-07 23:44 Kaito-kun: do you consider the ending trill a bit much?
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: 8K?
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: ah
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: about that
2016-10-07 23:44 Protastic101: I think the trill itself is fine, but it'd be better to move the notes onto stronger fingers like the index ones
2016-10-07 23:45 Protastic101: the {8} notes on the pinky get really tiring, especially if you're new to 8K
2016-10-07 23:45 Kaito-kun: actually, that trill was added because the diff was too underrated as it was :^)
2016-10-07 23:45 Protastic101: Add 1/16 streams :^)
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271353
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: ???
2016-10-07 23:50 Kaito-kun: you want a Normal, or a Nuke? :^)
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: Jesus christ
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: and yeah, right side is Melodie of Tristesse diff
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: but let's not mind the small Minseo-like stuff
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: No wonder Kami said he was trying to fix that
2016-10-07 23:51 Protastic101: I wondered what was so bad about it
2016-10-07 23:51 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-07 23:52 Protastic101: but I didn't look at the diffs
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: the ending is intense as fuck
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: I find it ok tbh
2016-10-07 23:52 Kaito-kun: but I would never map it like that lol
2016-10-07 23:53 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-07 23:53 Protastic101: I now know where Dad learns his mapping :^)))
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: he got inspired by the french tournament :^)
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: ahem..........so, is that pattern ok?
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: or do I need to nuke it?
2016-10-07 23:54 Kaito-kun: (the left one ofc)
2016-10-07 23:55 Protastic101: Nah, left hand is fine, right hand maybe. I think the {6-7} is fine, but index finger might still be better
2016-10-07 23:55 Kaito-kun: oh, and don't worry about time, already posted I was fixing NM
2016-10-07 23:55 Protastic101: oh ok
2016-10-07 23:57 Kaito-kun: you said 4K had little problems, right?
2016-10-07 23:58 Protastic101: Mostly visuals and stuff
2016-10-08 00:00 Kaito-kun: ok, then I'll send you the 8K diff update and then we take a look at 4k, ok?
2016-10-08 00:00 Protastic101: kk
2016-10-08 00:01 Kaito-kun: do I export it or smt?
2016-10-08 00:01 Kaito-kun: shit, brb
2016-10-08 00:01 Protastic101: just send me the .osu
2016-10-08 00:06 Protastic101: alright, spec me to make sure I have the right version
2016-10-08 00:08 Protastic101: o rip
2016-10-08 00:08 Kaito-kun: yup, right version
2016-10-08 00:08 Protastic101: Well, I still suck at it :^)
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: RIP :^)
2016-10-08 00:11 Protastic101: lol
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: so, it's way more balanced and comfortable that before
2016-10-08 00:11 Kaito-kun: (and actually follow pitch more)
2016-10-08 00:11 Protastic101: "follow pitch more" 00:34:377 (34377|5,34827|4) -
2016-10-08 00:12 Protastic101: jkjk
2016-10-08 00:12 Protastic101: comfort > PR
2016-10-08 00:14 Protastic101: 00:33:477 (33477|7,33927|6,34377|5) - Btw, I feel like you should end these LNs 1/2 beat early if you want to properly represent the piano ehre
2016-10-08 00:14 Protastic101: here*
2016-10-08 00:17 Protastic101: 00:34:827 (34827|4,34902|0) - Also, for sake of convenience, just start the LN with the crash. The piano doesn't start until 00:34:902 - anyways
2016-10-08 00:18 Protastic101: 00:40:227 (40227|4,40377|5) - for consistency too, jack these since you jacked 00:37:827 (37827|5,37977|5) - and they're similar piano sounds
2016-10-08 00:18 Kaito-kun: 1. Dunno tbh, will think about it
2016-10-08 00:19 Kaito-kun: 2. There's piano where the LN starts, I also would like to avoid it, but my consistent self tells me not to..............will think about it tho
2016-10-08 00:19 Protastic101: 00:43:977 (43977|4,44277|5,44577|6,44877|7) - PR here, flip the notes so they're descending. I'd also suggest spreading it out over both hands a little more
2016-10-08 00:19 Kaito-kun: 3. Done
2016-10-08 00:20 Kaito-kun: did a 8-6-4-2 pattern with the LNs
2016-10-08 00:20 Protastic101: cewl
2016-10-08 00:21 Protastic101: 00:49:677 (49677|4,49827|3) - Shift this one to the right. Every time I look at it, I keep thinking it's supposed to be on the right hand when only 00:49:677 (49677|4) - is on the right hand, but that's more my personal opinion
2016-10-08 00:22 Kaito-kun: did as you said and fixed some things a bit upwards
2016-10-08 00:22 Protastic101: 00:52:602 (52602|4,52752|5,52902|6,53052|7,53202|6,53352|5,53502|4) - pls mah hand
2016-10-08 00:23 Protastic101: A solution to the above problem might be something like shifting 00:52:302 (52302|2,52452|3,52602|4,52752|5,52902|6,53052|7) - one to the left
2016-10-08 00:23 Kaito-kun: lmao, just noticed I had a note missing :^)
2016-10-08 00:23 Protastic101: lol rip
2016-10-08 00:24 Kaito-kun: 00:52:152 (52152|1) - here
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: 00:53:202 (53202|6,53352|5) - then move these two onto separate hands and stuff
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: o rly
2016-10-08 00:24 Protastic101: I have a note there tho lol
2016-10-08 00:24 Kaito-kun: I don't...............???
???2016-10-08 00:25 Protastic101: wat
2016-10-08 00:26 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271494 :^)
2016-10-08 00:26 Protastic101: beautiful, 10/10, brings a tear to my hand, will not cut off unnecessary left hand now
2016-10-08 00:27 Protastic101: 00:58:752 (58752|3,58902|4) - try making this a mirror pattern of 00:58:602 (58602|7,59052|5) - so like moving 00:58:752 (58752|3) - to 2 and 00:58:902 (58902|4) - to 4
2016-10-08 00:29 Kaito-kun: it's looks and plays better as it is imo :v
2016-10-08 00:29 Protastic101: oki
2016-10-08 00:29 Protastic101: 00:59:652 (59652|1,59852|3,60052|5) - Same pitch so maybe do a minitrill like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271513
2016-10-08 00:31 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:31 Kaito-kun: looks better like that
2016-10-08 00:32 Protastic101: 01:01:652 (61652|4,61852|5,62052|7) - same thing for this but it might look uglier so idk
2016-10-08 00:33 Kaito-kun: na, I'll leave it like that
2016-10-08 00:33 Protastic101: 01:02:652 (62652|3,62952|1) - You could try making these jacked doubles like so since they're the same sound and accented https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271524
2016-10-08 00:33 Kaito-kun: it'll be a bit confusing timing-wise if I blend 1/3 with 1/2
2016-10-08 00:34 Kaito-kun: trying to make them distinguishable while relying on pitch and comfortability
2016-10-08 00:36 Kaito-kun: na, I'll leave as it is
2016-10-08 00:36 Protastic101: k
2016-10-08 00:37 Protastic101: 01:09:486 (69486|5,69901|7,70037|4) - Hand pls. Make it a roll or something at least if you're gonna keep it on the right hand.
2016-10-08 00:37 Protastic101: 01:08:583 (68583|3,69198|3) - also, for symmetry, I'd consider moving these to {3} so it's hit with both middle fingers
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: what you mean with the 1st suggestion?
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: and 2 is a no, I find it ok there :v
2016-10-08 00:38 Protastic101: First suggestion just feels uncomfortable to go from middle finger, to pinky, to index
2016-10-08 00:38 Kaito-kun: so your reccomendation would be?
2016-10-08 00:39 Protastic101: 01:09:901 (69901|7) - I might just consider moving this to the left hand instead to keep the pattern at 01:10:037 (70037|4,70310|1,70583|5,70719|2) -
2016-10-08 00:41 Kaito-kun: moved to 3
2016-10-08 00:42 Protastic101: 01:15:901 (75901|2) - also think this might be better in 5 cause of the weird finger shift on the left hand with 01:15:628 (75628|1,75764|3,75901|2) -
2016-10-08 00:43 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:46 Protastic101: 01:19:173 (79173|3,79173|5) - Feels easier to me if this is solely on the left hand, so like {34} and move 01:19:310 (79310|2) - to 2?
2016-10-08 00:47 Protastic101: 01:19:173 (79173|3,79310|2) - or the uncomfort might come from the fact I try to play this as a simple {4-3-2-1} roll
2016-10-08 00:47 Protastic101: So with that, you could instead just shift those two notes one to the left
2016-10-08 00:48 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:49 Kaito-kun: but made 01:19:713 (79713|1,80122|3) - change columns
2016-10-08 00:49 Protastic101: k
2016-10-08 00:49 Kaito-kun: 01:19:713 (79713|3,80122|2) - now
2016-10-08 00:49 Protastic101: 01:24:356 (84356|3,84478|0,84723|2,84845|0,85085|1,85205|0) - Whew, this got difficult
2016-10-08 00:50 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271591 What about this?
2016-10-08 00:50 Protastic101: I moved the LN at 01:25:445 (85445|3) - to 3 to avoid a jack with the note in 4 at 01:25:085 -
2016-10-08 00:51 Kaito-kun: looks way better than me on the morning :^)
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: pls, u dun even no wut i look like in the morning
2016-10-08 00:51 Kaito-kun: oh, but LN on 3 is a bit harsh imo
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: Imagine you nuking me, then multiply that by 1000 :^)
2016-10-08 00:51 Protastic101: You could just jack it instead and move 01:25:445 (85445|7) - to be jacked too if you want
2016-10-08 00:52 Protastic101: but that's a cancerous suggestion
2016-10-08 00:52 Kaito-kun: na, moved to 5
2016-10-08 00:52 Protastic101: o that works 2
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: 01:59:578 - wat
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: I have no idea what I just read
2016-10-08 00:54 Protastic101: gimme a sec
2016-10-08 00:55 Kaito-kun: lmao
2016-10-08 00:55 Kaito-kun: trying to assimilate that piece of shit? :^)
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: Seriously
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: I have no idea
2016-10-08 00:55 Protastic101: htf to read that
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: nor I
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: and I'm the mapper :^)
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271619 give this a shot
2016-10-08 00:56 Kaito-kun: so.........do I call Deif for the Nuke Icon, or na? :^)
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: Easier to read, a little left hand heavy tho
2016-10-08 00:56 Protastic101: XD
2016-10-08 00:57 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 00:59 Kaito-kun: so, we finished with 8K?
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: no
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: hold on
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: I'm looking at that ending
2016-10-08 01:00 Protastic101: cause playing through it a couple times has me tripping up on it now :^)
2016-10-08 01:01 Kaito-kun: I changed it tho :^)
2016-10-08 01:01 Kaito-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271639
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: ok then
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: I'm cool with 8K
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: 4K shouldn't take that long
2016-10-08 01:05 Protastic101: weeee
2016-10-08 01:05 Kaito-kun: \:D/
2016-10-08 01:06 Kaito-kun: (this IRC will probably reach the fucking character limit lmao)
2016-10-08 01:06 Protastic101: nahhhh
2016-10-08 01:06 Protastic101: I still need to save some space to rant about HS :^)
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: Btw, most of these suggestions are visual, and therefore opinion and shit
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: so what looks ugly af to me may look 10/10 would eyegasm again to you
2016-10-08 01:07 Kaito-kun: ACTION prepares to deny the living hell outta everything :^)
2016-10-08 01:07 Protastic101: :^)))))
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: I was supposed to do stuff
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: my bad
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: 00:13:527 (13527|1,13677|3,13827|2) -
2016-10-08 01:13 Protastic101: wee
2016-10-08 01:14 Protastic101: Anyways, as I said, visuals, so maybe a roll might be more fitting? Like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271717
2016-10-08 01:14 Kaito-kun: did the exact opposite :^)
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: so crool
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: I feel fokin oppressed
2016-10-08 01:15 Protastic101: 00:17:577 (17577|2,17577|0) - seriously, you use this {13} double way too often
2016-10-08 01:15 Kaito-kun: lol
2016-10-08 01:16 Kaito-kun: fixed
2016-10-08 01:17 Protastic101: 00:25:977 (25977|2,26127|3) - where's mah jack like in 8k
2016-10-08 01:19 Kaito-kun: no jack there on 8k tho
2016-10-08 01:19 Protastic101: o rip
2016-10-08 01:19 Protastic101: oops
2016-10-08 01:20 Protastic101: 01:00:552 (60552|2) - Eh, move to 1 just for a roll?
2016-10-08 01:20 Protastic101: 00:59:652 (59652|0,59852|1,60052|2) - oh yeah, also that minitrill stuff I mentioned in the 8k
2016-10-08 01:21 Protastic101: 01:02:652 (62652|1,62952|0) - Also, maybe try jacking these since they're a bit more accented and also the same sound as each other
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: 01:09:765 (69765|2,69901|3) - and control J so that it's a broken roll
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: 01:13:174 - where dafuq u hide da crash
2016-10-08 01:22 Protastic101: Add another note in 4 pls
2016-10-08 01:23 Protastic101: 01:15:492 (75492|3,75628|2,75764|3) - also, one handed, why? Make it on both hands cause it plays a little awkwardly on the right hand only
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 1. Did something else
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 2. Done
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 3. No :v
2016-10-08 01:23 Kaito-kun: 4. sure
2016-10-08 01:24 Kaito-kun: 5. Dunno what happened there lol
2016-10-08 01:24 Protastic101: u crash oppressor
2016-10-08 01:24 Kaito-kun: 6. fixed
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: 01:16:855 - same here, but not really as necessary since you didn't do in the 8k diff
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: 01:17:946 - Either make this a double or reduce the double in 8k https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271756
2016-10-08 01:25 Kaito-kun: na, I actually chose to ignore them when an LN ended
2016-10-08 01:25 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: u crash oppressor
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: 01:20:531 - Here too, you used a single in 4k but a double in 8k
2016-10-08 01:26 Kaito-kun: because it would end up with the SR higher than 2* :^(
2016-10-08 01:26 Protastic101: wao
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: it's 1.9*, u Bakatastic
2016-10-08 01:27 Protastic101: ACTION claps
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: I FUCKING BLAME PEPPY FOR THIS
2016-10-08 01:27 Protastic101: Lemme nerf it for you >:)
2016-10-08 01:27 Kaito-kun: (pls no bannerino)
2016-10-08 01:28 Protastic101: 01:33:247 (93247|2,93372|1) - Shift twice to the right cause 01:33:372 (93372|1,93497|0,93622|1) - is what is life
2016-10-08 01:29 Protastic101: 01:34:872 (94872|1) - also, rather than use this LN here, the piano plays 4 notes of the same pitch, so maybe try something like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271775
2016-10-08 01:29 Protastic101: 01:40:372 (100372|1,100497|0,100622|1) - pls, my eye cancer
2016-10-08 01:30 Protastic101: 01:40:372 (100372|1) - move to 1 and 01:40:497 (100497|0) - to 4 so it's like an outside-in pattern
2016-10-08 01:30 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271787
2016-10-08 01:30 Kaito-kun: 1. did something lol
2016-10-08 01:30 Kaito-kun: 2. na, I'll keep
2016-10-08 01:31 Kaito-kun: 3. fixed, but can't cure your cancer :^)
2016-10-08 01:31 Protastic101: dam son
2016-10-08 01:31 Protastic101: so crool
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: 01:45:372 (105372|0,105372|2,105997|0,105997|2) - WHY ONE AFTER THE OTHER
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: I FUCKING HATE THAT KIND OF CHORD AND YOU USE IT WILLY NILLY
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: GIVE THE OTHER CHORDS SOME LOVE FFS
2016-10-08 01:32 Protastic101: ACTION commits suicide
2016-10-08 01:34 Protastic101: 01:49:309 (109309|2,109434|0,109434|3) - also, if you wanna make it a little more beginner friendly, I think this would be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271806 cause the 1/4 is on one hand and the double on another and idk
2016-10-08 01:35 Protastic101: 01:58:633 - donde esta el crasho
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: 02:00:827 (120827|0,120827|3) - I'd also consider extending these LNs to end at 02:04:026 - cause 02:02:582 (122582|1,122582|2) - builds on top of them I think
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: 02:05:168 - this looks fucking cancerous fam
2016-10-08 01:36 Kaito-kun: 1. lmao
2016-10-08 01:36 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6271818
2016-10-08 01:36 Kaito-kun: 2. sure
2016-10-08 01:37 Kaito-kun: 3. Junto con mi corazon, perdido en el oceano :^)
2016-10-08 01:37 Protastic101: #muydeepo
2016-10-08 01:37 Kaito-kun: 4. lmao
2016-10-08 01:38 Protastic101: is lmao yes or no?
2016-10-08 01:39 Kaito-kun: yes lol
2016-10-08 01:39 Protastic101: o
2016-10-08 01:39 Kaito-kun: 1.91* \o/
2016-10-08 01:39 Protastic101: what about 5?
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: R U OPPRESSING THE FIFTH SUGGESTION
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: U CISHET SCUM
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: I'M FOKIN TRIGGERED
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: CUM UN
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: FIT MI
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: 1V1 RUST UNLI SNAIPA
2016-10-08 01:40 Protastic101: I FITE CHU ENYDAI
2016-10-08 01:40 Kaito-kun: oops, wrong game
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: CAN'T STOP ME WITH THE POWER OF THE MEXICAN HUARACHES
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: k, can I post now tho?
2016-10-08 01:41 Kaito-kun: sure
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: I still might ask someone else about checking the 8k tho
2016-10-08 01:41 Protastic101: Hand balance still seems a bit off, but idk what you have right now so I might recheck it later
AKA, he helped me fix most of the weird shit I had on my diff, tho a bit more feedback would always be good.Protastic101 wrote:
Basically went over lots of hand balance stuff in 8k, so it should be more balanced; in 4k, we just went over patterns and I got triggered a few times but that's okI'll still gouge out my eyes later cuz of Kaito <3
Anyways, here's the update
Topic Starter
O hi Miko guy (should get back to that after this gets requald)
Yeah sure, I'll update it next time I'm on PC
Yeah sure, I'll update it next time I'm on PC
Topic Starter
Okay, updated
So, someone sent me this about my diff:
Dunno how that ended like that, but please fix it XD (shorten the first selected LN)
Dunno how that ended like that, but please fix it XD (shorten the first selected LN)
Topic Starter
lmfao nice, fixed
Topic Starter
Alright, Triestesse diff is now ready, we've fixed the patterns after a brainstorming session with Aitor (chatlog below) and it's been tested by both him and Elah - it's still very hard and easily rushable, but we won't get any better than this.
chatlog
2016-10-15 18:19 -Kamikaze-: yo aitor my man
2016-10-15 18:19 -Kamikaze-: could you help me a little with dysnomia
2016-10-15 18:19 -Kamikaze-: also [http://puu.sh/rJTFy/a03c6799d4.jpg hudo is onto you]
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: kinda lol
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: can't improve mi ranked scores
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: Too much mindblock
2016-10-15 18:20 -Kamikaze-: ah rip
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: ok so, I'm looking for good patterns for dysnomia
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: for the ending just before 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: since it's kinda gay now
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: can you help
2016-10-15 18:21 aitor98: lemme check
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]]
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: 02:01:047 -
2016-10-15 18:22 -Kamikaze-: the 6-wall is way easier now
2016-10-15 18:22 aitor98: uhh
2016-10-15 18:22 aitor98: I mean it's kinda nasty
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: I was wondering
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: Is it possible to avoid jacks
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: I guess not
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: not really yea
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: oh fuck I did the wall wrong
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: Or at least make them in different points
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: reverse aaaaa
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: wait I had an idea
2016-10-15 18:24 -Kamikaze-: fire away
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: what if you start from here
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: Instead of making triples
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: 02:00:938 - this one
2016-10-15 18:24 -Kamikaze-: I reversed all of the 02:02:581 - btw because it was wrong
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: start doing double notes
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: and go rising
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: Idk if you got me or not
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: ops wait
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: fuck
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: oh no
2016-10-15 18:25 -Kamikaze-: you mean start 1/2 there and make 02:00:938 (120938|2,120938|6,120938|3) - 2 notes?
2016-10-15 18:25 -Kamikaze-: lolol
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: I did the copypastes good
2016-10-15 18:26 aitor98: wait
2016-10-15 18:26 aitor98: I think I can do something here
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6329352
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: This here
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: and as I set these doubles
2016-10-15 18:27 -Kamikaze-: ok lemme see
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: The next 1/2 can be a triple section
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: Like
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: as I said
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: it goes arising
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: I think it fits well cause the song starts going louder and louder
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: mhm yeah I've done that
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: but the part after your screen is the worst
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: yea but
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: I mean
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: doing these double notes and going rising with triple, quad
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: You'll avoid more jacks
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: and make it more comfortable
2016-10-15 18:30 -Kamikaze-: yea but with that theory it goes two doubles - two triples - two quads and then two fives
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: oh fuck
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: four quads is fine at the end still
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: just rougher patterns
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: if so, what if you start here 02:01:047 -
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: the 1/2
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: the problem is that there's only 1/2 anyway so w/e
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: fck
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: my theory doesn't work
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: it does work, but I gotta not do it for the alst two
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: I'm kidna lost now
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: kinda
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: oh wait
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: update
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: LLOLOOLOLO
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: LOL
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: lmaooo
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: wait
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: if you didn't change nothing in that part the update didn't mean shit
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: did mean shit
2016-10-15 18:35 -Kamikaze-: I'll arrange it a bit and then update
2016-10-15 18:35 -Kamikaze-: wait
2016-10-15 18:36 aitor98: kk
2016-10-15 18:39 -Kamikaze-: ok updated
2016-10-15 18:40 aitor98: you started here right 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: ye
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: kept the 1/4 tho
2016-10-15 18:41 aitor98: if you start here 02:01:047 - you can avoid this one 02:01:787 -
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: it will have one minijack anyway
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: but hmm
2016-10-15 18:44 aitor98: It is your choice
2016-10-15 18:44 -Kamikaze-: I've got a cool idea hold on
2016-10-15 18:45 aitor98: sure
2016-10-15 18:45 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/rJURy/8210dbb0b5.png from 02:01:581 -
2016-10-15 18:45 -Kamikaze-: last chord is the start of th 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: u mean this one 02:02:484 -
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: oh wait
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: 6th wall with the scratch
2016-10-15 18:46 -Kamikaze-: this is the last chord before the 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:46 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: yeah
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: *
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: oh
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: 02:02:581 - this is the last chord
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: on that screen
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: I'm kinda lost
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: lol
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: lmao
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: I'll just update the map
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: be patient with me please
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: lmao
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: hahah np man
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98:
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: ok updated
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: o/
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: seems better
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: mmmmmm that's nice
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: can you playtest it?
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: whoah
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: I can try
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: but
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: lmao
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: I'm shit with the scratch
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: I mean you S'ed it on qualify
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]] <osu!mania> |8K|
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: so you should do okay
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: yeah but
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: meh
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: 96,4
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: it was comfortable
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: better than before
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: I didn't drop too much
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: so I assume it's better now
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: yeaa
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: thanks man <3
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: indeed
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: np dud
2016-10-15 18:19 -Kamikaze-: could you help me a little with dysnomia
2016-10-15 18:19 -Kamikaze-: also [http://puu.sh/rJTFy/a03c6799d4.jpg hudo is onto you]
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: kinda lol
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: can't improve mi ranked scores
2016-10-15 18:20 aitor98: Too much mindblock
2016-10-15 18:20 -Kamikaze-: ah rip
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: ok so, I'm looking for good patterns for dysnomia
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: for the ending just before 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: since it's kinda gay now
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: can you help
2016-10-15 18:21 aitor98: lemme check
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]]
2016-10-15 18:21 -Kamikaze-: 02:01:047 -
2016-10-15 18:22 -Kamikaze-: the 6-wall is way easier now
2016-10-15 18:22 aitor98: uhh
2016-10-15 18:22 aitor98: I mean it's kinda nasty
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: yeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: I was wondering
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: Is it possible to avoid jacks
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: I guess not
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: not really yea
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: oh fuck I did the wall wrong
2016-10-15 18:23 aitor98: Or at least make them in different points
2016-10-15 18:23 -Kamikaze-: reverse aaaaa
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: wait I had an idea
2016-10-15 18:24 -Kamikaze-: fire away
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: what if you start from here
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: Instead of making triples
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: 02:00:938 - this one
2016-10-15 18:24 -Kamikaze-: I reversed all of the 02:02:581 - btw because it was wrong
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: start doing double notes
2016-10-15 18:24 aitor98: and go rising
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: Idk if you got me or not
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: ops wait
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: fuck
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: oh no
2016-10-15 18:25 -Kamikaze-: you mean start 1/2 there and make 02:00:938 (120938|2,120938|6,120938|3) - 2 notes?
2016-10-15 18:25 -Kamikaze-: lolol
2016-10-15 18:25 aitor98: I did the copypastes good
2016-10-15 18:26 aitor98: wait
2016-10-15 18:26 aitor98: I think I can do something here
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6329352
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: This here
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: and as I set these doubles
2016-10-15 18:27 -Kamikaze-: ok lemme see
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: The next 1/2 can be a triple section
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: Like
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: as I said
2016-10-15 18:27 aitor98: it goes arising
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: I think it fits well cause the song starts going louder and louder
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: mhm yeah I've done that
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: but the part after your screen is the worst
2016-10-15 18:28 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: yea but
2016-10-15 18:28 aitor98: I mean
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: doing these double notes and going rising with triple, quad
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: You'll avoid more jacks
2016-10-15 18:29 aitor98: and make it more comfortable
2016-10-15 18:30 -Kamikaze-: yea but with that theory it goes two doubles - two triples - two quads and then two fives
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: oh fuck
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: four quads is fine at the end still
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: just rougher patterns
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: if so, what if you start here 02:01:047 -
2016-10-15 18:31 aitor98: the 1/2
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: the problem is that there's only 1/2 anyway so w/e
2016-10-15 18:31 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: fck
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: my theory doesn't work
2016-10-15 18:33 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: it does work, but I gotta not do it for the alst two
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: I'm kidna lost now
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: kinda
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: oh wait
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: update
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: LLOLOOLOLO
2016-10-15 18:34 -Kamikaze-: LOL
2016-10-15 18:34 aitor98: lmaooo
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: wait
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: if you didn't change nothing in that part the update didn't mean shit
2016-10-15 18:35 aitor98: did mean shit
2016-10-15 18:35 -Kamikaze-: I'll arrange it a bit and then update
2016-10-15 18:35 -Kamikaze-: wait
2016-10-15 18:36 aitor98: kk
2016-10-15 18:39 -Kamikaze-: ok updated
2016-10-15 18:40 aitor98: you started here right 02:00:827 -
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: ye
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: kept the 1/4 tho
2016-10-15 18:41 aitor98: if you start here 02:01:047 - you can avoid this one 02:01:787 -
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: it will have one minijack anyway
2016-10-15 18:41 -Kamikaze-: but hmm
2016-10-15 18:44 aitor98: It is your choice
2016-10-15 18:44 -Kamikaze-: I've got a cool idea hold on
2016-10-15 18:45 aitor98: sure
2016-10-15 18:45 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/rJURy/8210dbb0b5.png from 02:01:581 -
2016-10-15 18:45 -Kamikaze-: last chord is the start of th 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: u mean this one 02:02:484 -
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: oh wait
2016-10-15 18:46 aitor98: 6th wall with the scratch
2016-10-15 18:46 -Kamikaze-: this is the last chord before the 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:46 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: yeah
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: 6-wall
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: *
2016-10-15 18:47 aitor98: oh
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: 02:02:581 - this is the last chord
2016-10-15 18:47 -Kamikaze-: on that screen
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: I'm kinda lost
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: lol
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: lmao
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: I'll just update the map
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: be patient with me please
2016-10-15 18:48 aitor98: lmao
2016-10-15 18:48 -Kamikaze-: hahah np man
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98:
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: ok updated
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: o/
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: hmm
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: seems better
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: mmmmmm that's nice
2016-10-15 18:49 -Kamikaze-: can you playtest it?
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: whoah
2016-10-15 18:49 aitor98: I can try
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: but
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: lmao
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: I'm shit with the scratch
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: I mean you S'ed it on qualify
2016-10-15 18:50 aitor98: ACTION is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]] <osu!mania> |8K|
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: so you should do okay
2016-10-15 18:50 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: yeah but
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: meh
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: 96,4
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: it was comfortable
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: better than before
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: I didn't drop too much
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: so I assume it's better now
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: yeaa
2016-10-15 18:52 -Kamikaze-: thanks man <3
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: indeed
2016-10-15 18:52 aitor98: np dud
Alright, some little snap fixed for the diffs where an update was
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21:36 -Kamikaze-: the nightmare is back
21:36 Feerum: Siemka
21:37 -Kamikaze-: ok where is it
21:37 -Kamikaze-: no yo
21:37 *Feerum is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/688307 Hermit - Dysnomia [Whagwha Victus' 4K Another]]
21:37 Feerum: 01:59:578 (119578|1,119579|2) -
21:37 -Kamikaze-: no jestem
21:37 -Kamikaze-: kurwy chuje śmiecie
21:37 Feerum: xDDDDDD
21:38 Feerum: tylko ten jeden
21:38 Feerum: haha
21:38 -Kamikaze-: phew
21:38 -Kamikaze-: xD
21:38 Feerum: 2 diff jesze i masz bubble back
21:38 -Kamikaze-: w pyte
21:39 -Kamikaze-: zrobiłem update z fixniętym snapem
21:39 -Kamikaze-: w diffie tidka się nic nie zmieniło iirc
21:39 Feerum: oh?
21:40 Feerum: ale mialem update button
21:40 -Kamikaze-: zmiany były w diffie whagwhy, moim triestesse i w diffach kaito
21:40 -Kamikaze-: a to nie wiem
21:40 -Kamikaze-: xD
21:42 Feerum: okay tidek diff jest done
21:42 Feerum: tristesse
21:42 -Kamikaze-: koolio
21:43 -Kamikaze-: na triestesse o sporo prostsze są te patterny na końcu, i jedno przejście na 3 stair chordach poprawiłem
21:43 -Kamikaze-: aitor i elah testowali i jest ok
21:46 Feerum: ojjj i jest problem na snap
21:46 *Feerum is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/681161 Hermit - Dysnomia [8K Melodie de tristesse]]
21:46 Feerum: 02:01:580 (121580|4) - ten
21:46 -Kamikaze-: bij mnie mocno
21:46 Feerum: 02:01:787 (121787|5,121787|2) - te dwa
21:46 Feerum: 02:02:387 (122387|2) - ten
21:46 -Kamikaze-: ej no jakim chujem to sie dzieje dopiero przestawiałem patterny
21:46 -Kamikaze-: xD
21:47 Feerum: 02:02:960 (122960|4) - ten
21:47 Feerum: 02:03:326 (123326|3) -
21:47 Feerum: okay tylko te
21:48 -Kamikaze-: kk fixed
21:48 -Kamikaze-: robie apdejt
21:48 Feerum: Jup
21:50 -Kamikaze-: done
21:50 Feerum: wee
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2016-10-22 13:25 -Kamikaze-: ACTION pokes juju owo
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: >///<
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: where you poking
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: baka
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: is kaito online&
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: ?
2016-10-22 13:26 -Kamikaze-: ^w^
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: =////=
2016-10-22 13:26 -Kamikaze-: nope, offline
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: ights
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: well yours just some baka hitsound mistake on 8k adv might as well put them here I guess
2016-10-22 13:27 -Kamikaze-: oki x3
2016-10-22 13:27 01:00:252 (60252|5,61452|7) - Kinda feel clap would be better and feel more consistent with the previous clap, not sure why your putting those whistle instead of clap, the only reason I see you doing that is because of copying hitsound, some place clap was the most left note, some is whistle. *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: 01:21:622 (81622|2,81895|1) - I think you mix it up, accident mistake. Shouldn't be 2 finish here, so remove this one 01:21:895 (81895|1) - , and lacking a finish here 01:21:622 (81622|2) - .
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: pattern are fun =///=
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: so not much wanna change
2016-10-22 13:27 -Kamikaze-: oki fixed owo
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: kaito will update his own diff right?
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: if you are the one making the change
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: I did update it already
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: I might as well
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: with his fixes
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: plug them all here
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: xD
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: so yeah I will handle it
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: yeah
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: oh
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: oki
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: kaito 8k then
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: some are 4k too, but I point it out "same as 4k"
2016-10-22 13:29 -Kamikaze-: oki x3
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: 00:43:105 - thats just for me
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: ok time to copy pasta
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: 00:07:492 (7492|1,8037|2,8297|0,8559|0) - I kinda don't like this pattern for the lowest level, mostly here 00:08:037 (8037|2,8297|0,8559|0) - can be a bit tricky for keyboard player I guess. Also there not much reason for these 00:06:921 (6921|2,8037|2) - to be on the same column causing it some kind of trill here 00:06:921 (6921|2,7492|1,8037|2) - . If you really want to make some kind of stair with all these 00:03:566 (3566|7,4316|6,5022|5,5688|4,6321|3,6921|2,7492|1,8037|2) - . How about make 2 4 notes stairs : 00:03:566 - to 00:05:688 - and 00:06:320 - to 00:08:037 - . That's also how the song go for me xD.
2016-10-22 13:30 -Kamikaze-: oki, waiting
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: holy
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: my reason look big in-game
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: 01:29:247 (89247|7,90372|7) - Not sure why the clap are here, sound pretty ugly because is so unconsistent with the clap afterward, and that really low clap sound from the song is like 1/2 snap before (Ex.01:29:122 - )
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: ok these line are fugly =w=
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: ah
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: shit
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: I accidently delete something D:
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: and ctrl+z wont work
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: ouff got a back up
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: wait wait realize notepad cut
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: uhh
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:29:247 (89247|7,90372|7) - Not sure why the clap are here, sound pretty ugly because is so unconsistent with the clap afterward, and that really low clap sound from the song is like 1/2 snap before (Ex.01:29:122 - )
2016-10-22 13:33 -Kamikaze-: uhh
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: So yeah remove those 2 claps, add it at 01:29:622 - and 01:30:622 - , also do the same for your 4K diff please. Also to keep consistent with this part too 01:37:372 - + .
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: _________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 -Kamikaze-: yea fixed those
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 00:55:152 - and 00:56:352 - shouldn't you be adding a note there? Example, this sound 00:55:302 - kinda follow from 00:55:152 - , just like you did on 00:54:552 (54552|4,54702|2,54852|6) - . Is all 1/2 between those triplet, not weird timing one, it should feel pretty consistent.
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: Same for your 4K
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: _____________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:01:652 (61652|4,61852|5) - How about making those play on 2 different hands. 01:01:652 (61652|4) - right hand and 01:01:852 (61852|5) - left hand. The reason is because, normal player usually tend to have trouble with stairs, and after seing this stairs 01:00:552 (60552|6,60702|5,60852|4,61002|3,61152|2,61302|1) - , they might as well play this stairs 01:01:302 (61302|1,61452|3,61652|4,61852|5,62052|7) - with the same speed, which will cause a loss of accuracy. Of course putting a new pattern can also make it harder, but there a higher chance they won't go in the same speed. Also to avoid this 01:01:852 (61852|5,62352|5) - I guess.
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: ________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:06:149 (66149|1) - really not sure if this is needed, this sound actually follow this sound 01:06:034 - , but you decide to start the later sound and it also on a blue stick @.@. I'd really suggest to delete it. Same with 4K.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: 01:08:416 (68416|4) - There really nothing wrong with it, I think you might have put those whistly for those small bell sound as well, but how about deleting this note? Since the synth isn't there, and can leave a 1/1 break if you follow the synth. Same for 4K.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ___________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: pop
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: 01:31:247 (91247|2,91372|3,91497|2,91622|1) - and 01:41:247 (101247|2,101372|3,101497|2,101622|1) - How about adjusting the pattern a bit? This is the only part with a fast small 1/4 trills and is 240 bpm =w=. Really could use a better pattern for normals players to train.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: tbh
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: idk if youll do the same as kaito xD
2016-10-22 13:35 Julie: was kinda modding this while thinking kaito will handle it
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:452 - I think this is fine since it goes nicely with the pitch
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: and will be a good spot for players to learn that kind of thing
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: it's symmetrical too
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: the pitch
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: go up and down
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: by the way
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: if you want to talk about pitch
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: a
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: well
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: is mostly in how normal player play I guess
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: it looks nice symmetrical
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: looks easy
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: for you xD
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: it's the easiest pattern to read
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: but normal player do have some trouble in stairs even if it does look easy, stairs aren'T always easy to acc
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: objectively
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: it look like the easiest pattern to reead
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: but in playing
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: acc is not expected
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: thats why i kinda suggested this
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: 01:31:247 (91247|2,91372|3,91497|2,91622|1) - this is not 1/4
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: but is not something bad xD
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: this is 1/2
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: ah
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: woops
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: LOL
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: omg
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: I was checking that just now
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: and I was like 1/4...wait a min
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: then you point it out LOL
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: but like I was saying
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: im modding this while keeping my mindset for kaito
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: not for you
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: you would be : a bit of challenge is fine
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: something like that
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: I did adjust it tho
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: and yeah, why not give players challenge
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: yeah
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: makes the map more interesting
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: yeah but on lower diff, there some few different mindset
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: xD
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: idk how to explain
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: and the hard parts make it more replayable
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: tbbh
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: since it's harder to get a good score on
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: like fc or ss
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: yep
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: so you try more to get those parts right
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: thats kinda why
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: that's good imo
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: I didnt point out this
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: especially in this song
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: and there was tons of
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: um
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: hands issue liek the one kaito fixed
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: from other irc
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: since judging from you =w=
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: you would just let it pass
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: so I didnt mention it either
2016-10-22 13:41 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:41 -Kamikaze-: alright I gotta fix up things for 4k now
2016-10-22 13:41 Julie: I didnt check pattern for 4k yet haha but there shouldnt be trouble
2016-10-22 13:41 Julie: I mean
2016-10-22 13:41 is 4k *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: alright fixed kaito's diffs
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: the 4k whagwha diff is good to go now pattern wise
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: since gadget played it and got 1x200 on second try
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: and he missed on qualified with lik 12
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: he told me that it's better now
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: yeahh
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: pattern was pretty much like
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: triestesse aitor and elah told me that it's way more doable now too
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: just note on sound without really caring for the flow before
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690367 Hermit - Dysnomia [D's 8K Another]]
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: oups
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: well it's 4k
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: I gotta brb for a moment, keep typing I'll check it when I'm back x3
2016-10-22 13:45 Julie: oki owo
2016-10-22 13:45 -Kamikaze-: (did not update yet btw)
2016-10-22 13:45 Julie: (I didnt ask for update yet btw owo)
2016-10-22 13:50 -Kamikaze-: oki back owo
2016-10-22 13:53 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: WAAA
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: OUPS
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: OKAERIII <3
2016-10-22 13:54 -Kamikaze-: <3
2016-10-22 13:59 -Kamikaze-: owo
2016-10-22 13:59 Julie: kami staring is =//////////=
2016-10-22 13:59 -Kamikaze-: *staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare*
2016-10-22 14:00 Julie: waaaa >////<
2016-10-22 14:00 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: I dont find much issue, but for ray 8k, this kinda bother me http://puu.sh/rRSHl/77a786492c.png, it feel boring to play =w=...probably while playing wont notice that the song is acctually different =w=
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: but can change last row a bit?
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: is at 02:05:168 - +
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: you mean 7th?
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: maybe change a bit this line 02:05:438 -
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: you do realize that right scratch players exist right
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: XD
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: is not scratch problem
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: is just =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: can make it a bit different
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: then 3 times hitting the same
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: yeah but if I change 7th lane then right scratch will be harder
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: dont need to be 7th
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: but at least
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: and if I change 1st left scratch will be harder
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: 1 a bit different
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: middle one
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: move a bit idk
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: hmm
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: I usually put on 7th anyway for sound like this too
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: is not an issue, just me =w=..being like, could follow song better or lik something
2016-10-22 14:03 -Kamikaze-: did this http://puu.sh/rRSRA/5c2843f52b.png
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: sure xD
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: >w<
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: updating now
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: owo
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: done~
2016-10-22 14:04 Julie: was jsut being bother by the fact that you could smash same keys 3 times, while it could be a little bit more challenging
2016-10-22 14:04 Julie: oki x3
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: >///<
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: where you poking
2016-10-22 13:25 Julie: baka
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: is kaito online&
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: ?
2016-10-22 13:26 -Kamikaze-: ^w^
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: =////=
2016-10-22 13:26 -Kamikaze-: nope, offline
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: ights
2016-10-22 13:26 Julie: well yours just some baka hitsound mistake on 8k adv might as well put them here I guess
2016-10-22 13:27 -Kamikaze-: oki x3
2016-10-22 13:27 01:00:252 (60252|5,61452|7) - Kinda feel clap would be better and feel more consistent with the previous clap, not sure why your putting those whistle instead of clap, the only reason I see you doing that is because of copying hitsound, some place clap was the most left note, some is whistle. *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: 01:21:622 (81622|2,81895|1) - I think you mix it up, accident mistake. Shouldn't be 2 finish here, so remove this one 01:21:895 (81895|1) - , and lacking a finish here 01:21:622 (81622|2) - .
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: pattern are fun =///=
2016-10-22 13:27 Julie: so not much wanna change
2016-10-22 13:27 -Kamikaze-: oki fixed owo
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: kaito will update his own diff right?
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: if you are the one making the change
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: I did update it already
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: I might as well
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: with his fixes
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: plug them all here
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: xD
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: so yeah I will handle it
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: yeah
2016-10-22 13:28 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: oh
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: oki
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: kaito 8k then
2016-10-22 13:28 Julie: some are 4k too, but I point it out "same as 4k"
2016-10-22 13:29 -Kamikaze-: oki x3
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: 00:43:105 - thats just for me
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: ok time to copy pasta
2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: 00:07:492 (7492|1,8037|2,8297|0,8559|0) - I kinda don't like this pattern for the lowest level, mostly here 00:08:037 (8037|2,8297|0,8559|0) - can be a bit tricky for keyboard player I guess. Also there not much reason for these 00:06:921 (6921|2,8037|2) - to be on the same column causing it some kind of trill here 00:06:921 (6921|2,7492|1,8037|2) - . If you really want to make some kind of stair with all these 00:03:566 (3566|7,4316|6,5022|5,5688|4,6321|3,6921|2,7492|1,8037|2) - . How about make 2 4 notes stairs : 00:03:566 - to 00:05:688 - and 00:06:320 - to 00:08:037 - . That's also how the song go for me xD.
2016-10-22 13:30 -Kamikaze-: oki, waiting
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2016-10-22 13:30 Julie: holy
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: my reason look big in-game
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: 01:29:247 (89247|7,90372|7) - Not sure why the clap are here, sound pretty ugly because is so unconsistent with the clap afterward, and that really low clap sound from the song is like 1/2 snap before (Ex.01:29:122 - )
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2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: ok these line are fugly =w=
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: ah
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: shit
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: I accidently delete something D:
2016-10-22 13:31 Julie: and ctrl+z wont work
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: ouff got a back up
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: wait wait realize notepad cut
2016-10-22 13:32 Julie: uhh
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:29:247 (89247|7,90372|7) - Not sure why the clap are here, sound pretty ugly because is so unconsistent with the clap afterward, and that really low clap sound from the song is like 1/2 snap before (Ex.01:29:122 - )
2016-10-22 13:33 -Kamikaze-: uhh
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: So yeah remove those 2 claps, add it at 01:29:622 - and 01:30:622 - , also do the same for your 4K diff please. Also to keep consistent with this part too 01:37:372 - + .
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: _________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 -Kamikaze-: yea fixed those
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 00:55:152 - and 00:56:352 - shouldn't you be adding a note there? Example, this sound 00:55:302 - kinda follow from 00:55:152 - , just like you did on 00:54:552 (54552|4,54702|2,54852|6) - . Is all 1/2 between those triplet, not weird timing one, it should feel pretty consistent.
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: Same for your 4K
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: _____________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:01:652 (61652|4,61852|5) - How about making those play on 2 different hands. 01:01:652 (61652|4) - right hand and 01:01:852 (61852|5) - left hand. The reason is because, normal player usually tend to have trouble with stairs, and after seing this stairs 01:00:552 (60552|6,60702|5,60852|4,61002|3,61152|2,61302|1) - , they might as well play this stairs 01:01:302 (61302|1,61452|3,61652|4,61852|5,62052|7) - with the same speed, which will cause a loss of accuracy. Of course putting a new pattern can also make it harder, but there a higher chance they won't go in the same speed. Also to avoid this 01:01:852 (61852|5,62352|5) - I guess.
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: ________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:33 Julie: 01:06:149 (66149|1) - really not sure if this is needed, this sound actually follow this sound 01:06:034 - , but you decide to start the later sound and it also on a blue stick @.@. I'd really suggest to delete it. Same with 4K.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: 01:08:416 (68416|4) - There really nothing wrong with it, I think you might have put those whistly for those small bell sound as well, but how about deleting this note? Since the synth isn't there, and can leave a 1/1 break if you follow the synth. Same for 4K.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ___________________________________________________________________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: pop
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: ________________________________________
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: 01:31:247 (91247|2,91372|3,91497|2,91622|1) - and 01:41:247 (101247|2,101372|3,101497|2,101622|1) - How about adjusting the pattern a bit? This is the only part with a fast small 1/4 trills and is 240 bpm =w=. Really could use a better pattern for normals players to train.
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: tbh
2016-10-22 13:34 Julie: idk if youll do the same as kaito xD
2016-10-22 13:35 Julie: was kinda modding this while thinking kaito will handle it
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:452 - I think this is fine since it goes nicely with the pitch
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: and will be a good spot for players to learn that kind of thing
2016-10-22 13:36 -Kamikaze-: it's symmetrical too
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: the pitch
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: go up and down
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: by the way
2016-10-22 13:36 Julie: if you want to talk about pitch
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: a
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: well
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: is mostly in how normal player play I guess
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: it looks nice symmetrical
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: looks easy
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: for you xD
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: it's the easiest pattern to read
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: but normal player do have some trouble in stairs even if it does look easy, stairs aren'T always easy to acc
2016-10-22 13:37 -Kamikaze-: objectively
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: it look like the easiest pattern to reead
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: but in playing
2016-10-22 13:37 Julie: acc is not expected
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: thats why i kinda suggested this
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: 01:31:247 (91247|2,91372|3,91497|2,91622|1) - this is not 1/4
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: but is not something bad xD
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: this is 1/2
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: ah
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: woops
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: LOL
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: omg
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: I was checking that just now
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: and I was like 1/4...wait a min
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: then you point it out LOL
2016-10-22 13:38 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:38 Julie: but like I was saying
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: im modding this while keeping my mindset for kaito
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: not for you
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: you would be : a bit of challenge is fine
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: something like that
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: I did adjust it tho
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: and yeah, why not give players challenge
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: yeah
2016-10-22 13:39 -Kamikaze-: makes the map more interesting
2016-10-22 13:39 Julie: yeah but on lower diff, there some few different mindset
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: xD
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: idk how to explain
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: and the hard parts make it more replayable
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: tbbh
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: since it's harder to get a good score on
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: like fc or ss
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: yep
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: so you try more to get those parts right
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: thats kinda why
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: that's good imo
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: I didnt point out this
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: especially in this song
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: and there was tons of
2016-10-22 13:40 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: um
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: hands issue liek the one kaito fixed
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: from other irc
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: since judging from you =w=
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: you would just let it pass
2016-10-22 13:40 Julie: so I didnt mention it either
2016-10-22 13:41 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:41 -Kamikaze-: alright I gotta fix up things for 4k now
2016-10-22 13:41 Julie: I didnt check pattern for 4k yet haha but there shouldnt be trouble
2016-10-22 13:41 Julie: I mean
2016-10-22 13:41 is 4k *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: alright fixed kaito's diffs
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: the 4k whagwha diff is good to go now pattern wise
2016-10-22 13:42 -Kamikaze-: since gadget played it and got 1x200 on second try
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: and he missed on qualified with lik 12
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: he told me that it's better now
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: yeahh
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: pattern was pretty much like
2016-10-22 13:43 -Kamikaze-: triestesse aitor and elah told me that it's way more doable now too
2016-10-22 13:43 Julie: just note on sound without really caring for the flow before
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/690367 Hermit - Dysnomia [D's 8K Another]]
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: oups
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: well it's 4k
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: xD
2016-10-22 13:44 Julie: *shrugs*
2016-10-22 13:44 -Kamikaze-: I gotta brb for a moment, keep typing I'll check it when I'm back x3
2016-10-22 13:45 Julie: oki owo
2016-10-22 13:45 -Kamikaze-: (did not update yet btw)
2016-10-22 13:45 Julie: (I didnt ask for update yet btw owo)
2016-10-22 13:50 -Kamikaze-: oki back owo
2016-10-22 13:53 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: WAAA
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: OUPS
2016-10-22 13:53 Julie: OKAERIII <3
2016-10-22 13:54 -Kamikaze-: <3
2016-10-22 13:59 -Kamikaze-: owo
2016-10-22 13:59 Julie: kami staring is =//////////=
2016-10-22 13:59 -Kamikaze-: *staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare*
2016-10-22 14:00 Julie: waaaa >////<
2016-10-22 14:00 -Kamikaze-: =w=
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: I dont find much issue, but for ray 8k, this kinda bother me http://puu.sh/rRSHl/77a786492c.png, it feel boring to play =w=...probably while playing wont notice that the song is acctually different =w=
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: but can change last row a bit?
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: is at 02:05:168 - +
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: you mean 7th?
2016-10-22 14:01 Julie: maybe change a bit this line 02:05:438 -
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: you do realize that right scratch players exist right
2016-10-22 14:01 -Kamikaze-: XD
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: is not scratch problem
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: is just =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: can make it a bit different
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: then 3 times hitting the same
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: yeah but if I change 7th lane then right scratch will be harder
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: dont need to be 7th
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: but at least
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: and if I change 1st left scratch will be harder
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: 1 a bit different
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: middle one
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: move a bit idk
2016-10-22 14:02 Julie: =w=
2016-10-22 14:02 -Kamikaze-: hmm
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: I usually put on 7th anyway for sound like this too
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: is not an issue, just me =w=..being like, could follow song better or lik something
2016-10-22 14:03 -Kamikaze-: did this http://puu.sh/rRSRA/5c2843f52b.png
2016-10-22 14:03 Julie: sure xD
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: >w<
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: updating now
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: owo
2016-10-22 14:04 -Kamikaze-: done~
2016-10-22 14:04 Julie: was jsut being bother by the fact that you could smash same keys 3 times, while it could be a little bit more challenging
2016-10-22 14:04 Julie: oki x3
Topic Starter
Thanks you both so much!
I love you too Julie <33333
I love you too Julie <33333
just seeing this qualified, was about to give my impression about the chart, i'v been played it since long ago, they are nice
but the plain normal-hitnormal hitsound in 1 big phase with those chordy notes are just too noisy.. and i feel 02:02:484 - the last part are really loud with that 6 notes * 30% normal hitsound set
no its not unrankable, but i feel using custom hitsound with least noisy audio would gives better feedback to the player, try use this https://puu.sh/rUPzk/5b44f80f12.wav its a softer snare sound, i amplify the waveform to reduce the loudness a little
just my 2 cent here
but the plain normal-hitnormal hitsound in 1 big phase with those chordy notes are just too noisy.. and i feel 02:02:484 - the last part are really loud with that 6 notes * 30% normal hitsound set
no its not unrankable, but i feel using custom hitsound with least noisy audio would gives better feedback to the player, try use this https://puu.sh/rUPzk/5b44f80f12.wav its a softer snare sound, i amplify the waveform to reduce the loudness a little
just my 2 cent here
Topic Starter
Honestly, I don't think it's too loud. It's just loud because the chords are very heavy, which is justifiable.
I would rather make hitsounds too loud (within reasonable limits of course) then make them inaudible as a lot of ranked maps in mania do.
I appreciate your opinion, but I don't want to take the map down again just because of such minor thing, if (somehow) the map gets DQ'ed for more major issues then I will consider your suggestions again, thanks.
I would rather make hitsounds too loud (within reasonable limits of course) then make them inaudible as a lot of ranked maps in mania do.
I appreciate your opinion, but I don't want to take the map down again just because of such minor thing, if (somehow) the map gets DQ'ed for more major issues then I will consider your suggestions again, thanks.