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Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle)

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Topic Starter
Arphimigon
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 25 October 2017 at 21:01:48

Artist: Noisia
Title: Groundhog (Beat Juggle)
Source: DJ Hero
Tags: the scratch perverts progressive difficulty
BPM: 135.33
Filesize: 7325kb
Play Time: 04:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (3.32 stars, 446 notes)
  2. Pro (4.57 stars, 589 notes)
  3. Rhythm Master (6.03 stars, 815 notes)
  4. Rookie (1.97 stars, 256 notes)
Download: Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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"wow."
[-obee58-]
ur not hw
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
Nope, but HW is fun c:
Voli
DUUUU dududududu DUUUU dudududu. W0W.
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
CRUMBS
zev
O-OOOooOHH TATSS FAST Dont FALL APPART NOW APRHI-pls its so fast rank dis song
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
There really is no point.
zev
No Point *beat intensifies*
Swiftrax
can i make insane bby
i'll try my best
c:
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
Difficulties like "insane" wont work with the way I intended for this mapset, dont bother xD
Stefan
PogChamp PogChamp PogChamp PogChamp
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
iktf
diraimur
wow.
Last edited by diraimur on less than a minute ago, edited 69 times in total.
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

diraimur wrote:

wow.
watch out!
Vivyanne
tfw i cant mod mapset becus too solid ;-;
Amaikai
irc playtest / minimod
SPOILER
2017-01-11 19.39 Amaikai: eh i like nf
2017-01-11 19.39 Amaikai: just in case
2017-01-11 19.39 Arphimigon: ezpz win
2017-01-11 19.39 Amaikai: y
2017-01-11 19.39 Amaikai: i like the concept of map, just 1 part i misread badly. gonna check in editor how it looks
2017-01-11 19.39 Arphimigon: AR9 bois
2017-01-11 19.40 Amaikai: ar9 and older patterning bois
2017-01-11 19.40 Arphimigon: I kinda want to make the start of the end (lolxd) a bit easier
2017-01-11 19.40 Arphimigon: The spike from the 1/3 section to the spaced 1/4
2017-01-11 19.40 Arphimigon: iz a bit sudden
2017-01-11 19.42 Amaikai: hmm was prolly 1 of these that i misread 02:50:280 (1,2,3,4) - , but thats on me
2017-01-11 19.43 Arphimigon: rip
2017-01-11 19.43 Arphimigon: :c
2017-01-11 19.43 Amaikai: intentional to not change direction on vertical ones at start?
2017-01-11 19.43 Amaikai: 01:03:873 (5,6) -
2017-01-11 19.44 Arphimigon: ye
2017-01-11 19.44 Arphimigon: intentiona
2017-01-11 19.44 Arphimigon: l
2017-01-11 19.44 Arphimigon: tfw unsnapped slider end thnx aimod
2017-01-11 19.46 Amaikai: talking about nerfing 03:18:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-01-11 19.46 Amaikai: ?
2017-01-11 19.46 Arphimigon: ye
2017-01-11 19.46 Arphimigon: the start of that section
2017-01-11 19.47 Amaikai: recall that being rough but im not THAT good on alternating. would appreciate bit easier start to let player familiarize a bit
2017-01-11 19.47 Arphimigon: ye agree gonna nerf the start of that section
2017-01-11 19.47 Amaikai: bit less spacing maybe? rhythm wise seems fine
2017-01-11 19.48 Amaikai: and patterning. just the aim seems bit
2017-01-11 19.48 Arphimigon: I'm just thinking of making it a straight line lol
2017-01-11 19.49 Arphimigon: aaaand done
2017-01-11 19.50 Amaikai: is location of this fine? 03:22:645 (3,4,5) - the earlier 03:22:091 (5,6,7) - is still partially visible on editor when i try to read
2017-01-11 19.50 Arphimigon: ysee because I play a ton of reading-heavy maps and EZ/FL and stuff
2017-01-11 19.51 Arphimigon: I dont see stuff like that ever, it just kinda goes by
2017-01-11 19.51 Arphimigon: So I'll take your word for it and move
2017-01-11 19.51 Amaikai: yea, just caught my eye when i was scrolling map
2017-01-11 19.51 Amaikai: i play ez randomly, struggle with precisely that patterning. returning to where notes were :P
2017-01-11 19.52 Arphimigon: k moved
2017-01-11 19.52 Arphimigon: No overlappus now
2017-01-11 19.52 Amaikai: couldnt properly read last section so cant comment on that, 03:47:030 (1) - onwards
2017-01-11 19.53 Arphimigon: AR9 270bpm section fun
2017-01-11 19.54 Amaikai: it is, just cant play yet
2017-01-11 19.54 Amaikai: well sightread at leasy
2017-01-11 19.54 Arphimigon: mmm
2017-01-11 19.54 Arphimigon: I wonder where you'd have died tho
2017-01-11 19.54 Arphimigon: Cuz it is meant to be an endurance progressive difficulty mep
2017-01-11 19.54 Amaikai: wasnt that unofficial pass?
2017-01-11 19.55 Arphimigon: nF
2017-01-11 19.55 Arphimigon: NF*
2017-01-11 19.55 Amaikai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7031345
2017-01-11 19.55 Arphimigon: So no :c
2017-01-11 19.55 Amaikai: yea but hp never dropped to 0
2017-01-11 19.55 Amaikai: aka unofficial :X
2017-01-11 19.55 Arphimigon: ye but
2017-01-11 19.55 Arphimigon: I cant tell how far you'd have actually got :c
2017-01-11 20.00 Amaikai: pass.
2017-01-11 20.00 Arphimigon: U R WINNAR
2017-01-11 20.00 Amaikai: very lenient hp tbh
2017-01-11 20.00 Arphimigon: ye tru
2017-01-11 20.01 Amaikai: but yea got nothing else to point out. fun map
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: but iz for HR compatibilty with certain slower parts
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: ;cc
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: WHOO
2017-01-11 20.01 Amaikai: :X blame osu for not implementing section specific drain
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: blame for not better HP system in general
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: like uh
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: none at all
2017-01-11 20.01 Arphimigon: :ccccccccccccc
2017-01-11 20.01 Amaikai: lul thats true too
2017-01-11 20.02 Arphimigon: k u made 2 points post log for ezkds
2017-01-11 20.02 Arphimigon: (we all love kds)
2017-01-11 20.02 Amaikai: yay
2017-01-11 20.02 Amaikai: (doesnt use it for anything)
2017-01-11 20.02 Arphimigon: #stillworth
Voli
[Rhythm Master]

  1. 03:43:040 (3) - unsnapped slider end
  2. 03:18:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe nerf this start cuz its sudden af diffspike from the last 1/3 part
  3. Make 03:22:645 (3,4,5) - and 03:21:869 (4,5,6,7) - not overlap for better looks and readability
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

Voli wrote:

[Rhythm Master]

  1. 03:43:040 (3) - unsnapped slider end fixed
  2. 03:18:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe nerf this start cuz its sudden af diffspike from the last 1/3 part ye got a few complaints (one by myself) fixd
  3. Make 03:22:645 (3,4,5) - and 03:21:869 (4,5,6,7) - not overlap for better looks and readability aaaaand a fix
Vivyanne
  • [General]
  1. I'd suggest you to look at AIMod, found quite some unsnapped objects

    [Rythm Master]
  2. 02:37:866 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps too big of a diff spike, the 1/3 sliders in the section feel way easier and this also makes the section afterwards look not so hard, which breaks your progressive difficulty thing.
  3. 03:55:787 (6,2) - Please make these not touching >.< would make it look better tbh

good luck!
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

HighTec wrote:

  • [General]
  1. I'd suggest you to look at AIMod, found quite some unsnapped objects will do!

    [Rythm Master]
  2. 02:37:866 (1,2,3,4) - Perhaps too big of a diff spike, the 1/3 sliders in the section feel way easier and this also makes the section afterwards look not so hard, which breaks your progressive difficulty thing. agree completely, reworking this part
  3. 03:55:787 (6,2) - Please make these not touching >.< would make it look better tbh Not-touching anymore ez

good luck!
Thnks!
diraimur
ez:
03:30:626 (4,1) - all sliders like dis r weird sinc there is near silence on the start of them plz fix
03:32:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hardest part of map isnt even the end, its in the transition stage, kys. boosts the SR a lot and makes the end seem way easier

hr:
03:19:985 (7) - not straight (and a bunch of others, look through map to find them on this section)
look at the slider 00:56:336 (4,1) -, all slider-> notes like this should have a quieter end for a better effect, same on all higher diffs which use these rhythms
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

diraimur wrote:

ez:
03:30:626 (4,1) - all sliders like dis r weird sinc there is near silence on the start of them plz fix I'll see what I can do
03:32:843 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hardest part of map isnt even the end, its in the transition stage, kys. boosts the SR a lot and makes the end seem way easier complete agree

hr:
03:19:985 (7) - not straight (and a bunch of others, look through map to find them on this section) done and fixed
look at the slider 00:56:336 (4,1) -, all slider-> notes like this should have a quieter end for a better effect, same on all higher diffs which use these aaaaaaaa pain but fixing too thnxrhythms
zev
where will groundhoggy go arphi??
Weedy
One high quality GD coming up- 6.75* LOL have fun
"pika's so you want to be a DJ"
GD
osu file format v14

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Title:Groundhog (Beat Juggle)
TitleUnicode:Groundhog (Beat Juggle)
Artist:Noisia
ArtistUnicode:Noisia
Creator:Arphimigon
Version:Pika's So You Want To Be A DJ
Source:DJ Hero
Tags:the scratch perverts progressive difficulty
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264,136,251194,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,40,251305,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,312,251415,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,216,251526,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,120,251637,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,24,251748,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,88,251858,6,0,L|92:244,1,108.499996688843
256,328,252080,2,0,B|256:272|256:272|200:272,1,108.499996688843
320,184,252302,2,0,L|472:184,1,108.499996688843
252,68,252523,2,0,B|196:68|196:68|196:140,1,108.499996688843
292,340,252745,5,0,0:0:0:0:
292,260,252856,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,180,252967,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,180,253078,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,180,253188,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,180,253299,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,180,253410,2,0,B|232:180|232:180|232:112,1,108.499996688843
48,36,253632,6,0,L|48:176,1,139.499995742798
372,312,253853,2,0,L|372:160,1,139.499995742798
48,36,254075,6,0,L|48:176,1,139.499995742798
448,248,254297,2,0,L|448:96,1,139.499995742798
48,36,254519,6,0,L|48:176,1,139.499995742798
468,360,254740,2,0,L|468:184,1,139.499995742798
48,36,254962,6,0,L|48:176,1,139.499995742798
492,348,255184,2,0,L|492:152,1,139.499995742798
140,100,255405,6,0,B|140:236|140:236|224:312|224:312|224:68,1,465.000017738343
Topic Starter
Arphimigon
@pika

I'm sorry but as the diff progresses it just feels more like consistent 1/4 and nothing like DJ Hero ultra weird rhythms. After 03:18:659 - there is only 1/4 and the odd 1/8 but barely any rhythms that represent the intricacies of the music that I wanted to bring out. Also, lots of the spacing seems random and a bit forced so you get the top SR kinda difficulty thing which is around 6.5ish nowadays, but I don't like how any of it works.

04:10:972 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And half the time the weird DS changes like this have near 0 meaning
(01:10:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - and I will never add slider end strims to my mapsets)
01:14:847 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - And things like this, there are only actually notes after the downbeat at 01:14:957 - but no taps before it
01:16:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1/3 taps
01:30:475 (1,2,3,4) - More 1/3
02:36:092 - This section which is just literally 1/3 taps over and over again is pure spam and kinda gets boring. It's also the highest SR rated (I dont like SR but I thought you'd wanna know) part of the map, if that means anything
02:07:717 - to 02:36:092 - I really like this section tho

But my real concerns are the end of the map as I said at the start, after 03:18:655 - there is basically 1/4 spam and illogical spacing
03:19:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - I find it depressing how the lack of sound at 2 is the same pressure as the rest of the pattern
03:20:650 (3,4,5) - 1/6
03:23:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1 to 4 is nice, but 5 itself is very strong and 6 is nearly nonexistant, having the pattern continue for 5 and 6 is weird for both the sounds for those two reasons
03:24:862 (1,2,3,4) - Mapped to? You could've chose the drums, which wouldve been 03:24:862 - 03:24:973 - 03:25:195 - 03:25:305 - or extended the slider at 03:25:305 - but this is just 1/4 slider spam for the sake of it
03:26:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Dud fix yo squares
03:27:799 (3,4,5,6) - You tried, but it's 1/6
03:30:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I can understand how 5 has the weird back-flow on it cuz downbeat. However that means the OP power on 7 is merely nothing now, cuz 7 has easily the strongest sound and new instrumentu, but is just a normal tap in the pattern. It should be as strong as the distance to the slider coming after 8
03:31:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, mapped to what? Same arguement as last time
03:32:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This bit doesn't make me want to quit enough.
And then up to 04:01:218 - this point I just literally cannot understand what anything is mapped to, I'm just confused at this point

I may be quite harsh on this map, but that is because for about a year now I've considered it my best ever creation, and I won't accept anything I don't see to be on par with what I made, since I likely wont ever make something as good as this again in the next 3/4 years.

tl;dr nope
Weedy

Arphimigon wrote:

@pika

I'm sorry but as the diff progresses it just feels more like consistent 1/4 and nothing like DJ Hero ultra weird rhythms. After 03:18:659 - there is only 1/4 and the odd 1/8 but barely any rhythms that represent the intricacies of the music that I wanted to bring out. Also, lots of the spacing seems random and a bit forced so you get the top SR kinda difficulty thing which is around 6.5ish nowadays, but I don't like how any of it works.

04:10:972 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And half the time the weird DS changes like this have near 0 meaning
(01:10:967 (1,2,3,4,5) - and I will never add slider end strims to my mapsets)
01:14:847 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - And things like this, there are only actually notes after the downbeat at 01:14:957 - but no taps before it
01:16:288 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1/3 taps
01:30:475 (1,2,3,4) - More 1/3
02:36:092 - This section which is just literally 1/3 taps over and over again is pure spam and kinda gets boring. It's also the highest SR rated (I dont like SR but I thought you'd wanna know) part of the map, if that means anything
02:07:717 - to 02:36:092 - I really like this section tho

But my real concerns are the end of the map as I said at the start, after 03:18:655 - there is basically 1/4 spam and illogical spacing
03:19:542 (1,2,3,4,5) - I find it depressing how the lack of sound at 2 is the same pressure as the rest of the pattern
03:20:650 (3,4,5) - 1/6
03:23:310 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 1 to 4 is nice, but 5 itself is very strong and 6 is nearly nonexistant, having the pattern continue for 5 and 6 is weird for both the sounds for those two reasons
03:24:862 (1,2,3,4) - Mapped to? You could've chose the drums, which wouldve been 03:24:862 - 03:24:973 - 03:25:195 - 03:25:305 - or extended the slider at 03:25:305 - but this is just 1/4 slider spam for the sake of it
03:26:857 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Dud fix yo squares
03:27:799 (3,4,5,6) - You tried, but it's 1/6
03:30:182 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - I can understand how 5 has the weird back-flow on it cuz downbeat. However that means the OP power on 7 is merely nothing now, cuz 7 has easily the strongest sound and new instrumentu, but is just a normal tap in the pattern. It should be as strong as the distance to the slider coming after 8
03:31:956 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, mapped to what? Same arguement as last time
03:32:843 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This bit doesn't make me want to quit enough.
And then up to 04:01:218 - this point I just literally cannot understand what anything is mapped to, I'm just confused at this point

I may be quite harsh on this map, but that is because for about a year now I've considered it my best ever creation, and I won't accept anything I don't see to be on par with what I made, since I likely wont ever make something as good as this again in the next 3/4 years.

tl;dr nope
welp not your fault, this was just an experiment for flow change - flow changes from horizontal to vertical/vice versa at each 90' slider ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
maybe you can add it to the description or something lol
and speaking of complex rhythm your top diff isnt very rhythmically complex either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (bar the 1/6in your map because they're hard to read from 1/8)
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

Pika wrote:

welp not your fault, this was just an experiment for flow change - flow changes from horizontal to vertical/vice versa at each 90' slider ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
maybe you can add it to the description or something lol
and speaking of complex rhythm your top diff isnt very rhythmically complex either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (bar the 1/6in your map because they're hard to read from 1/8)
Ya but mine follows instruments in a "not just spammin 1/4" and has the 1/6 and 1/8
But ya added to desc ftw
Weber
Rhythm Master

02:43:186 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personally, this section has usually been harder to nail without breaking than 03:18:655 - 03:32:787 if difficulty progression is what you are going for (obviously) I believe I have a better alternative. The reason this section is so difficult comes in the motion needed to jump from 02:43:482 (3,1) - for example and then reverse that momentum. If the patterns alternated from top-to-bottom --> bottom-to-top instead of just top-to-bottom patterns over and over again, it would be able to keep the same structure but be much less forgiving in it's aim requirements.

02:43:630 (1,3) - Ctrl-G
02:44:516 (1,2) - Ctrl-G
02:45:431 (1,3) - Ctrl-G
02:48:950 (1,3) - Eh, you could use it here but I feel as though this one is more forgiving since it only utilizes the difficult momentum problem once instead of multiple times. You could probably do some more interesting stuff with 02:49:393 (1) - if you decided to Ctrl-G this.

04:09:364 (3) - I kinda like Ctrl-G'ing this to make it a little more challenging to hit.
Topic Starter
Arphimigon

Weber wrote:

Rhythm Master

02:43:186 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Personally, this section has usually been harder to nail without breaking than 03:18:655 - 03:32:787 if difficulty progression is what you are going for (obviously) I believe I have a better alternative. The reason this section is so difficult comes in the motion needed to jump from 02:43:482 (3,1) - for example and then reverse that momentum. If the patterns alternated from top-to-bottom --> bottom-to-top instead of just top-to-bottom patterns over and over again, it would be able to keep the same structure but be much less forgiving in it's aim requirements.
I like the idea, but I disagree still. Firstly, this section would then be easier than the previous because of the lack of high spaced jumps 02:38:161 (2,3,4,1) - for example. Next of all I'm not sure if its a problem with you or me but I can hit this section DT (lol) but not the next section properly nomod (lol) which is just hilarious. If I'm going to nerf this part, I'm going to have to do it a totally different way.

04:09:364 (3) - I kinda like Ctrl-G'ing this to make it a little more challenging to hit. The unsnappiness dissatisfies me
diraimur
cripes.
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