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paraoka feat. haru*nya - Rampage

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Irreversible
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 20. März 2017 at 00:21:57

Artist: paraoka feat. haru*nya
Title: Rampage
Tags: Kyshiro fast challenge funny voice cheering happy Koujimachi Yousankan 麹町養蚕館 マテリアル Damnae antprincess
BPM: 154
Filesize: 4783kb
Play Time: 01:10
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another (4,69 stars, 301 notes)
  2. Easy (1,38 stars, 52 notes)
  3. Hard (3,42 stars, 157 notes)
  4. Kawabunga! (8,11 stars, 327 notes)
  5. Kyshiro's Ultra (6,46 stars, 334 notes)
  6. Kyversible's Extra (5,66 stars, 312 notes)
  7. Kyversible's Insane (4,22 stars, 253 notes)
  8. Normal (2,18 stars, 96 notes)
Download: paraoka feat. haru*nya - Rampage
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SB: Damnae Thx D!

All ready

Testplayed and input given by:
- Kyshiro
- jackylam5
- Cookiezi
- Blue Dragon
- Jonimay
- MillhioreF
- Spork Lover

Ultimate Challenge -

Thanks!

<- Ant

http://puu.sh/u8MQd/71738a8c01.osu <- old kawabunga
Kyshiro
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diraimur
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Beige
this map is awesome! \CS7/
Topic Starter
Irreversible
ready for mods~
Ashton
okay


so I"d rather m4m


My maps for m4m in my sig

{if your gonna mod my nanatsu map I would prefer you mod the hardest diff}

KawaBaugadlkfjasklfj

00:06:450 (2) - this doesn't blanket right with 00:06:061 (2) - this

00:30:704 (4) - the noise here is so faint, so I don't see why you need an ear killing volume of hitsound (this goes for most of your map)

00:34:892 (1) - this can be curved a bit more

00:36:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - don't do these patterns with such a low ds, please for the sake of god

00:37:814 (1) - why curved so much? I would just make this straighter


Extra

00:11:418 (2,3) - slider ends aren't stacked properly

00:28:366 (3,1) - I think this would be better stacked

00:43:658 (2,3) - make these curved maybe?

00:54:762 (1,2,3) - less spacing would make it flow better like
01:05:866 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I think curving the streams more would be excelent



Hard

00:25:541 (2,3) - instead of reverse sliders, try
00:28:658 (4,5) - ^




I can't mod other diffs sorry

(mostly because I can't find problems)

anyways here' the cut mp3 you wanted: https://puu.sh/r1tSy/56f72d9ea2.mp3 (hopefully that works)
Ahntaea
>complains about star rating
>small cs with 308 bpm jumps
Enon
loli cs master lol
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Whirl wrote:

okay


so I"d rather m4m


My maps for m4m in my sig

{if your gonna mod my nanatsu map I would prefer you mod the hardest diff}

KawaBaugadlkfjasklfj

00:06:450 (2) - this doesn't blanket right with 00:06:061 (2) - this now it does

00:30:704 (4) - the noise here is so faint, so I don't see why you need an ear killing volume of hitsound (this goes for most of your map) yeah hitsounds wouldn't hurt XD

00:34:892 (1) - this can be curved a bit more her voice is quite subtle here, no change!

00:36:061 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - don't do these patterns with such a low ds, please for the sake of god I had othersp laying it and they enjoyed that.

00:37:814 (1) - why curved so much? I would just make this straighter I didn't make it straight, but I loosened up the curve slightly.


Extra

00:11:418 (2,3) - slider ends aren't stacked properly now they are

00:28:366 (3,1) - I think this would be better stacked yea

00:43:658 (2,3) - make these curved maybe? neat idea

00:54:762 (1,2,3) - less spacing would make it flow better like io think the spacing isn eeded but i curved it slightly for better flow!

01:05:866 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I think curving the streams more would be excelent will get more opinion on that.



Hard

00:25:541 (2,3) - instead of reverse sliders, try

00:28:658 (4,5) - ^ i prefer mine tbh!




I can't mod other diffs sorry

(mostly because I can't find problems)

anyways here' the cut mp3 you wanted: https://puu.sh/r1tSy/56f72d9ea2.mp3 (hopefully that works)
Thanks, bunch of useful things. Thanks too, for the mp3.
nhlx
kyversible's insane
01:00:452 (1) - this should be stacked to 01:00:549 (2) - imo

considering that, you could make 01:03:081 (2,3) - stacked continuing it in every next pattern like that

extra
00:05:379 (2,3,4,5) - i dont see a reason for this to be unattached from 00:05:087 (1) -
00:32:944 (1) - un nc this so it follows the previous scheme
00:38:593 (1) - i would un nc this also
00:47:360 (2) - nc?
Arphimigon
'ello

Mp3 cut is kinda bad, if you want me to make a fade or something I can or maybe you can idk either way the sudden end is meh!

[COWBUNGaaaa]
00:06:101 (2,2) - tfw first thing I'mma say is a blanket kill me
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ok well, I don't hear any clickable 1/8 here but I DO hear a whoosing sound which is what I think you took for 1/8. Perhaps itd be better as a heavy curved slider instead of 1/8 here because there is no 1/8? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6031106 idea but I'm bad at ideas (inb4 my hearing is just bad)
00:50:322 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Not complaining about readability, I just think it'd be -cooler- if they rose per slider, like: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6031141
Funfunfun

[ULTRaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same with Irre diff (inb4 hearing really bad)
I like

[EXTRaaaaaaaa]
00:43:503 (1,2,3) - Can you make these the same curved angle? owo (they arent afaik to me)
00:51:490 (3,4,1) - aww this is kinda sad how the big af jump isn't on the EPIC sound at the end but instead the sound before it... I think it is a wasted oppurtunity ;w;

[INSaaaaaaaNE]
Fine to me

[HaaaaaaaaRD]
00:30:841 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Long combo much?
00:49:348 - Try adding a note here if you are mapping to the vocal next pls

[NORMaaaaaL]
Fun normal 11/10

[EaaaaaaSY]
00:11:361 (3) - Not -perfectly- symettrical, at this point I'm just nazing anything because of the lack of things I wrote tbh

bubai!
Yukiyo
shitty m4m
;_;
Easy
00:25:387 - any reason for reducing the SV so suddenly and so big ... might be surprising actually idk
01:05:906 (1,2) - is it supposed to have no "blanket" relation at all ... looks meh to me
01:07:464 (1,2) - hmm same with this
Normal
00:09:802 (4) - NC as you did -> 00:03:568 (1) - same patterns
00:10:581 (1) - remove NC obviously then
00:25:387 - again the sudden SV change :V
01:05:906 (1,1,1,1) - their spacing is uneven ... especially 01:06:490 (1,1) -
Hard
Uhhh SV :V
00:26:750 (4,5) - blanket? http://puu.sh/r1YEP/59d2191a53.jpg
00:29:283 (5,6) - blanket? http://puu.sh/r1YIp/0b35adc2d1.jpg
00:33:958 (1) - NC here or 00:32:984 (8) - here?
00:41:750 (10,1) - blanket ~
Kyversible's Insane
00:12:529 (1) - maybe cickable 00:12:919 - http://puu.sh/r1YYi/6ed4f4d309.jpg
00:32:789 (6,1) - coudln't there be more spacing here because big vocal?
00:40:971 (1,2) - blanket :V
00:55:289 (3,1) - blanket :VVVV
Extra
00:00:744 (2,3) - why is dis bigger DS than 00:01:133 (4,1) -
00:01:913 (4,2,4) - also here why decreasing DS order?
00:03:471 (8,2,4) - again inconsitant DS :V
and it continues
00:10:192 (5,6,7) - any reason for such big jump? I mean no song change whatsoever
00:27:237 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - SUGEEEE
00:44:477 (3,4,1) - shouldn't the emphasis and thus bigger DS be on the 1 rather than the 4
00:45:257 - Uhh feel like this should be clickable ... in the song it's even a triple end which makes it really prominent
Sohuldn't there be a diff inbetween ... I mean 4.8 > 6.6 xd
Kyshiro's Ultra
Sry idk what I just watched and Idk how to mod it xd
00:42:335 - prominent beat ... honestly
01:05:906 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - These are harder to play then 01:07:075 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) -
shouldn't it be other way around as intensity goes up
Kawabungapoplkakdnaojbdpqdq+dkaplnaofbnamnffmeems
Ohh god CS7 ;_;
00:03:568 - missing the extra hitsounds from here on? such as hitnormals and finishes?
01:01:231 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - RUSTBELL IS IT YOU?
well idk about this map?
looks good but do you expect ppl to play it?
Natteke desu
what already that many mods u wot
Linada

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
original artist and song name Kappa
6th
Hello

[Hitsounds]
00:58:114 (1,2) - Are you certain that the finishes are correctly placed ?

[Easy]
00:05:906 - 00:06:685 - This part is rather intense, can you add a circle at 00:06:296 - ?
00:38:633 (1) - It's minor but its length could be confusing. Also the slider itself could feel fast compared to the rest of the map since the break after the spinner is really short for an Easy diff.
01:06:685 (2) - Moving it a bit to the left would make the pattern a bit more intuitive since they belong to the same combo.

[Normal]
00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Imo they sound better when the slider starts on red tick.
00:59:283 (3,1,2) - CTRL+G rhythm ? the stream at 00:59:283 - deserves a more intense pattern.
01:07:075 (1,1) - It's minor but I recommand placing them differently since they don't exactly sound like 01:05:906 (1,1) -

[Hard]
00:32:984 (8) - NC ?
00:34:737 (11) - ^
00:58:698 (1) - This is really too easy compared to 00:58:114 (1,2,3) -
Perfect otherwise

[Insane]
00:39:997 (1,2,3) - That antiflow doesn't work that well, move it to the right ?
00:49:347 (4) - NC ?
00:53:828 (1,2) - They don't sound okay imo... place a circle at 00:54:120 - ?

[Extra]
00:09:510 - This is loud, why is it skipped ?
01:00:841 - What about an 1/2 slider here ?

I can't play higher diffs so these are just suggestions. The gap between Extra and Ultra needs to be filled up to make the spread more coherent imo.

[Ultra]
00:06:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I understand that it's an Ultra diff, but even if I can't play it I think that this is really too hard compared to the rest of the map. Those direction changes could be really hard to perform at such high speed.
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Rotate it a bit ? The actual angle looks a bit uncomfortable.

[Kawabunga]
00:57:627 (5) - Remove NC and add NC to 00:57:919 (2) - ? also you may want to rotate (5) a bit because it looks a bit weird actually.

I hope it will help
Net0
Hey there m4m as we discussed. This is the map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/502648

[General]
  1. Disable widescreen stuff on Design tab.
  2. Are you sure about the countdown? xD
  3. All diffs don't have preview time point
  4. Increase luminosity of combo color 2 by 30: 135 ->165
  5. O couldn't find much info for metadata check, sorry xS
[Easy]
  1. 00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - How about making the combo colors here work in a 1/2 + 1/2 pattern instead of a 1/2/3/4
  2. Fix SMALL blanket issue 00:25:387 (1,2) -
  3. Blanket as well 01:05:906 (1,2) -
  4. How about blanket these 00:42:529 (2,1) -
[Normal]
  1. The intro of the map has a structure of 00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - and repetition at 00:06:685 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - . Now taking a look at how you developed flow at the combos of the first part it was linear/linear/back and forth/ circular and on the next repetition it was linear/linear/back and forth and also circular flow. However you overlapped here 00:05:127 (1,2,3) - and on the next pattern you've used a slider repeat. Could you consider making this combo 00:05:127 (1,2,3) - without the overlapped?
  2. Blanket 00:53:439 (1,2) -
  3. 01:08:244 (1,2,3) - Space increased here. Jumps in normal difficulty, is the community ready to accept this stuff? xD I don't mind this since it's a 0,05 space increase, but be prepared
[Hard]
  1. Spacing inconsistency here 00:04:153 (2,3,4,1) - , I don't think this was intentional because I don't see a reason to increase from here 00:04:153 (2,3) -
  2. 00:06:685 (3) - New combo pls >.<
  3. 00:26:750 (4,5) - Blanket REALLY SMALL fix
  4. Huge combo lol 00:30:841 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - , Maybe start a new one here 00:31:620 (3) -
  5. Spacing 2,8x 00:29:283 (5,6) - xD, do you think you might nerf this a little bit
  6. The blanket here is really weird 00:42:335 (1,2,1) - , maybe you wanted it to look like a blanket but it isn't.
  7. Blanket as well 00:56:166 (3,1) -
It's a great mapset. I'll mod the easier diffs because I believe that they have more objective stuff to point and the community in general will mostly mod your Insanes and Extras, so I'll give you some help with easier diffs xD. I believe that the SV changes on the easier difficulties are not recommend as general rule, but since you respect spacing, they work here in this map. Good luck o/
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Arphimigon wrote:

'ello

Mp3 cut is kinda bad, if you want me to make a fade or something I can or maybe you can idk either way the sudden end is meh!

[COWBUNGaaaa]
00:06:101 (2,2) - tfw first thing I'mma say is a blanket kill me done
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ok well, I don't hear any clickable 1/8 here but I DO hear a whoosing sound which is what I think you took for 1/8. Perhaps itd be better as a heavy curved slider instead of 1/8 here because there is no 1/8? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6031106 idea but I'm bad at ideas (inb4 my hearing is just bad) hm.. i feel like the short impact fits though, for what's given in the song
00:50:322 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Not complaining about readability, I just think it'd be -cooler- if they rose per slider, like: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6031141 cute
Funfunfun

[ULTRaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same with Irre diff (inb4 hearing really bad)
I like

[EXTRaaaaaaaa]
00:43:503 (1,2,3) - Can you make these the same curved angle? owo (they arent afaik to me)
00:51:490 (3,4,1) - aww this is kinda sad how the big af jump isn't on the EPIC sound at the end but instead the sound before it... I think it is a wasted oppurtunity ;w; both fixd

[INSaaaaaaaNE]
Fine to me

[HaaaaaaaaRD]
00:30:841 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Long combo much? yea
00:49:348 - Try adding a note here if you are mapping to the vocal next pls mh no, because it would ruin my rhythmical pattern

[NORMaaaaaL]
Fun normal 11/10

[EaaaaaaSY]
00:11:361 (3) - Not -perfectly- symettrical, at this point I'm just nazing anything because of the lack of things I wrote tbh dnoe XD

bubai!
thenksies!

6th wrote:

Hello

[Hitsounds]
00:58:114 (1,2) - Are you certain that the finishes are correctly placed ? Sounds fine to me

[Easy]
00:05:906 - 00:06:685 - This part is rather intense, can you add a circle at 00:06:296 - ? The rhythmical structure should stay like that, there should be some easier breaks between it.
00:38:633 (1) - It's minor but its length could be confusing. Also the slider itself could feel fast compared to the rest of the map since the break after the spinner is really short for an Easy diff. Will get more opinons.
01:06:685 (2) - Moving it a bit to the left would make the pattern a bit more intuitive since they belong to the same combo. Okay!

[Normal]
00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Imo they sound better when the slider starts on red tick. I disagree, sorry :/
00:59:283 (3,1,2) - CTRL+G rhythm ? the stream at 00:59:283 - deserves a more intense pattern. I wanted to emphasize the vocals here!
01:07:075 (1,1) - It's minor but I recommand placing them differently since they don't exactly sound like 01:05:906 (1,1) - I prefer keeping this as one pattern, considering it's a normal diff.

[Hard]
00:32:984 (8) - NC ?
00:34:737 (11) - ^
00:58:698 (1) - This is really too easy compared to 00:58:114 (1,2,3) -
Perfect otherwise Fixed all!

[Insane]
00:39:997 (1,2,3) - That antiflow doesn't work that well, move it to the right ?
00:49:347 (4) - NC ?
00:53:828 (1,2) - They don't sound okay imo... place a circle at 00:54:120 - ? Will change that when more people tell me to do that.

[Extra]
00:09:510 - This is loud, why is it skipped ? What is ? I don't hear anything special.
01:00:841 - What about an 1/2 slider here ? Hmm, there clearly is something on 01:01:036 - ..

I can't play higher diffs so these are just suggestions. The gap between Extra and Ultra needs to be filled up to make the spread more coherent imo.

[Ultra]
00:06:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I understand that it's an Ultra diff, but even if I can't play it I think that this is really too hard compared to the rest of the map. Those direction changes could be really hard to perform at such high speed.
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Rotate it a bit ? The actual angle looks a bit uncomfortable.

[Kawabunga]
00:57:627 (5) - Remove NC and add NC to 00:57:919 (2) - ? also you may want to rotate (5) a bit because it looks a bit weird actually. Done~

I hope it will help
It certainly helped, thank you!
Kyshiro

Arphimigon wrote:

[ULTRaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same with Irre diff (inb4 hearing really bad) keeping it for consistency cause irre kept it too
I like

Yukiyo wrote:

Kyshiro's Ultra
Sry idk what I just watched and Idk how to mod it xd
00:42:335 - prominent beat ... honestly I'm following this rhythm everywhere though
01:05:906 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - These are harder to play then 01:07:075 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) -
shouldn't it be other way around as intensity goes up I guess it's slightly harder to play, but they're both hard to hit and having them flipped around feels weird for some reason

6th wrote:

[Ultra]
00:06:003 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I understand that it's an Ultra diff, but even if I can't play it I think that this is really too hard compared to the rest of the map. Those direction changes could be really hard to perform at such high speed. Might change this later on, it's rather hard indeed
00:12:529 (1,2,3,4,5) - Rotate it a bit ? The actual angle looks a bit uncomfortable. angle should be fine honestly
Thanks guys
Zonthem
Hi !
From the #modreqs :)

Hard
Perhaps you should remake the combo and dont exceed 8

00:32:400 (5, 6, 7, 8) : it could be better if they're not aligned i think
00:34:737 (11) : NC
00:44:867 (4, 5, 6, 7) : same as first, you could round the pattern moving (5) and (6) towards the middle
01:06:490(1, 2) : a slider is easier to play in hard, personnaly i would put it there...

And finally : wow such a fast music cut lol

Kyversible's Insane
00:42:822 (2) : you could remove it for a better flow (its not really a music's note btw)

i cant find another mistake, flow is quite perfect and circles are well placed

Extra
00:40:874 (8, 1) : they are quite far from the slider, it could be hard to hit
01:00:452 (1, 2) : perhaps Ctrl+G the slider and move the circle to the other extremity of (2) to really break with the previous stream
01:08:828 (5, 6, 1) : Why not deploy it to make a little stream (and NC on (5) not on (1)). It would looks better and make a repetition with the previous 5-plets(i think its their name :/)

Kyshiro's Ultra
Since i cant play it, its only visual

00:11:361 (1, 2) : putting a circle between those objets (also arranging by placing (1) to the left and the new (2) to the right) could make a good effect... At least it looks good

Normal
The SV should be more constent, at 00:25:387 it twice slower than before the pause, so there we can easily break :/

00:58:114 (1, 2, 3, 1, 2) : this pattern is hard, perhaps repeat once (3) or a slider for the circles (1) and (2).

Sorry i didnt find alot of mistakes but i really hope it will help you !
(And for The M4M : Jean-Jacques Goldman - Il changeait la vie
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Net0 wrote:

Hey there m4m as we discussed. This is the map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/502648

[General]
  1. Disable widescreen stuff on Design tab. I'll do a small SB~
  2. Are you sure about the countdown? xD Fixed
  3. All diffs don't have preview time point done
  4. Increase luminosity of combo color 2 by 30: 135 ->165 oh, okay
  5. O couldn't find much info for metadata check, sorry xS yeah..
[Easy]
  1. 00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - How about making the combo colors here work in a 1/2 + 1/2 pattern instead of a 1/2/3/4 I didn't understand what you mean o.o
  2. Fix SMALL blanket issue 00:25:387 (1,2) -
  3. Blanket as well 01:05:906 (1,2) - fixed all blankets!
  4. How about blanket these 00:42:529 (2,1) - nah
[Normal]
  1. The intro of the map has a structure of 00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - and repetition at 00:06:685 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3) - . Now taking a look at how you developed flow at the combos of the first part it was linear/linear/back and forth/ circular and on the next repetition it was linear/linear/back and forth and also circular flow. However you overlapped here 00:05:127 (1,2,3) - and on the next pattern you've used a slider repeat. Could you consider making this combo 00:05:127 (1,2,3) - without the overlapped? I see your concerns, however let me explain. The reason why I did that was an idea about structuring the part like this: 00:00:452 (1,2,3) - 1 00:02:010 (1,2,3) - 2 00:03:568 (1,2) - 3 and 00:05:127 (1,2,3) - 4. The fourth part always get special emphasis. Here, it's overlap, in the other one it's a blue tick reverse.
  2. Blanket 00:53:439 (1,2) - yea
  3. 01:08:244 (1,2,3) - Space increased here. Jumps in normal difficulty, is the community ready to accept this stuff? xD I don't mind this since it's a 0,05 space increase, but be prepared yeah
[Hard]
  1. Spacing inconsistency here 00:04:153 (2,3,4,1) - , I don't think this was intentional because I don't see a reason to increase from here 00:04:153 (2,3) - Same reason as in normal actually, it's special emphasis.
  2. 00:06:685 (3) - New combo pls >.< done
  3. 00:26:750 (4,5) - Blanket REALLY SMALL fix done
  4. Huge combo lol 00:30:841 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - , Maybe start a new one here 00:31:620 (3) - done
  5. Spacing 2,8x 00:29:283 (5,6) - xD, do you think you might nerf this a little bit Nah, this is fine. Ignore the number
  6. The blanket here is really weird 00:42:335 (1,2,1) - , maybe you wanted it to look like a blanket but it isn't. No
  7. Blanket as well 00:56:166 (3,1) - [b]a yea[/b]
It's a great mapset. I'll mod the easier diffs because I believe that they have more objective stuff to point and the community in general will mostly mod your Insanes and Extras, so I'll give you some help with easier diffs xD. I believe that the SV changes on the easier difficulties are not recommend as general rule, but since you respect spacing, they work here in this map. Good luck o/
Thank you, thanks for modding this. ^_^
Kyshiro

Yukiyo wrote:

Kyversible's Insane
00:32:789 (6,1) - coudln't there be more spacing here because big vocal? fixed
00:40:971 (1,2) - blanket :V fixed

6th wrote:

[Insane]
00:39:997 (1,2,3) - That antiflow doesn't work that well, move it to the right ? fixed
00:49:347 (4) - NC ? looks kind of weird, fine the way it is
ote="Nherantelon"]
Kyversible's Insane
00:42:822 (2) : you could remove it for a better flow (its not really a music's note btw) it's actually a nonstop 1/4 beat going on, since there's many more patterns like this i think it should be fine

i cant find another mistake, flow is quite perfect and circles are well placed
[/quote]

Nherantelon wrote:

Kyshiro's Ultra
Since i cant play it, its only visual

00:11:361 (1, 2) : putting a circle between those objets (also arranging by placing (1) to the left and the new (2) to the right) could make a good effect... At least it looks good I dont know, I prefer having the jumps like this as buildup for the stream
Thanks guys!
Topic Starter
Irreversible
Updated with new mp3~
Net0
No kds

Irreversible wrote:

Net0 wrote:

[Easy]
[list]
[*]00:00:452 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - How about making the combo colors here work in a 1/2 + 1/2 pattern instead of a 1/2/3/4 I didn't understand what you mean o.o
[*]Make combo colors work on the beggining like:
00:01:772 (1,2,3,1,2) - Blue/Purple + 00:08:005 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Blue/Purple
00:01:772 (1,2,3,1,2) - Yellow/Purple + 00:08:005 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Yellow/Purple or etc.

Basically making the combo colors work in pairs instead of all 4 colors on the start. Small stuff to suggest xD
Arduck
General
  1. Background image dimensions are 1365x768.. why not 1366 though ;w;
  2. Add these to tags: 麹町養蚕館 , マテリアル , ランペイジ , Koujimachi Yousankan
  3. All difficulties except Kawabunga! have widescreen support enabled.
  4. Set preview point at 00:54:369
Easy
  1. Maybe add a hit circle here 00:04:499 - , make this slider last for 2 white ticks without reversing 00:04:888 (1) - , then add a hit circle here 00:06:057 - , another slider for 2x white ticks here 00:06:447 (1) - and leave that one empty 00:07:616 -
Normal
  1. 00:11:901 (1) - Rotate by 2 Degrees (Playfield selection) to fix blanket.
  2. Add hitcircles here 01:04:499 - and here 01:06:057 - sounds better imo.
Hard
  1. Add hitcircles here 00:53:590 - and here 00:53:979 - ?
Kyversible's Insane
  1. 00:04:304 (2) - "Finish" hitsound here was probably put there by mistake.
    AiMod
  2. 00:04:498 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  3. 00:09:173 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  4. 00:12:290 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  5. 00:54:369 (1) - end isn't snapped.
Extra
  1. 00:33:135 (2) - make this 2x hitcircles instead?
Kyshiro's Ultra
  1. 00:02:064 (2) - fix stacking.
  2. 00:08:784 (1) - ^
  3. 00:32:648 (6) - ^

Crazy mapset D: That last difficulty's name killed me xD Good luck!
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Nherantelon wrote:

Hi !
From the #modreqs :)

Hard
Perhaps you should remake the combo and dont exceed 8

00:32:400 (5, 6, 7, 8) : it could be better if they're not aligned i think
00:34:737 (11) : NC
00:44:867 (4, 5, 6, 7) : same as first, you could round the pattern moving (5) and (6) towards the middle
01:06:490(1, 2) : a slider is easier to play in hard, personnaly i would put it there... Fixed the NCs! I will think about the slider.

And finally : wow such a fast music cut lol

Kyversible's Insane
00:42:822 (2) : you could remove it for a better flow (its not really a music's note btw)

i cant find another mistake, flow is quite perfect and circles are well placed

Extra
00:40:874 (8, 1) : they are quite far from the slider, it could be hard to hit
01:00:452 (1, 2) : perhaps Ctrl+G the slider and move the circle to the other extremity of (2) to really break with the previous stream
01:08:828 (5, 6, 1) : Why not deploy it to make a little stream (and NC on (5) not on (1)). It would looks better and make a repetition with the previous 5-plets(i think its their name :/) Fixed all except last one, wasn't quite clear what to fix there.

Kyshiro's Ultra
Since i cant play it, its only visual

00:11:361 (1, 2) : putting a circle between those objets (also arranging by placing (1) to the left and the new (2) to the right) could make a good effect... At least it looks good

Normal
The SV should be more constent, at 00:25:387 it twice slower than before the pause, so there we can easily break :/

00:58:114 (1, 2, 3, 1, 2) : this pattern is hard, perhaps repeat once (3) or a slider for the circles (1) and (2). Should be fine.

Sorry i didnt find alot of mistakes but i really hope it will help you !
(And for The M4M : Jean-Jacques Goldman - Il changeait la vie
Thank you - it did help! Modded your map already.

Arduck_GR wrote:

General
  1. Background image dimensions are 1365x768.. why not 1366 though ;w;
  2. Add these to tags: 麹町養蚕館 , マテリアル , ランペイジ , Koujimachi Yousankan
  3. All difficulties except Kawabunga! have widescreen support enabled.
  4. Set preview point at 00:54:369
Easy
  1. Maybe add a hit circle here 00:04:499 - , make this slider last for 2 white ticks without reversing 00:04:888 (1) - , then add a hit circle here 00:06:057 - , another slider for 2x white ticks here 00:06:447 (1) - and leave that one empty 00:07:616 - I'm pretty happy with the current rhythm..
Normal
  1. 00:11:901 (1) - Rotate by 2 Degrees (Playfield selection) to fix blanket. done
  2. Add hitcircles here 01:04:499 - and here 01:06:057 - sounds better imo. I really would like to make a build up here.
Hard
  1. Add hitcircles here 00:53:590 - and here 00:53:979 - ? Wasn't planned for the hard diff.
Kyversible's Insane
  1. 00:04:304 (2) - "Finish" hitsound here was probably put there by mistake.
    AiMod
  2. 00:04:498 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  3. 00:09:173 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  4. 00:12:290 (3) - end isn't snapped.
  5. 00:54:369 (1) - end isn't snapped. fixed
Extra
  1. 00:33:135 (2) - make this 2x hitcircles instead? i prefer not.
Kyshiro's Ultra
  1. 00:02:064 (2) - fix stacking.
  2. 00:08:784 (1) - ^
  3. 00:32:648 (6) - ^

Crazy mapset D: That last difficulty's name killed me xD Good luck!
Thank you! haha, yeah it's pretty challenging.
Topic Starter
Irreversible
Updated:

- Fixed mp3 again
- Added Kyversible's Extreme (to fix the spread)
- Fixed Widescreen
- Fixed Preview Point
- Fixed Countdown

Future updates (planned):

- Nerf the first kiai pattern in Kawabunga! done

Thank you guys :)
Kyshiro
change diffname to kankerbunga

kds pls

ty

yw

bye
lit120
sup birre o/

[general]
  1. offset 408
  2. it's about a note snap reason from ur cs7 map
  3. so i just realized that you're mapping a cut ver... GOD DAMN IT I HAVE THAT FULL VER. AND I THOUGHT THAT IT'LL BE A FUCKING FULL VER. MAPSET ;w;
[cs7]
  1. 00:14:239 - aw snap, ya didn't map anything here
  2. 00:51:642 (1) - try to set a slider from 00:51:836 - . that'll do rly
  3. ohh ok forget those mods. man... did u intentionally moved all those notes to the wrong beat? .-. ctrl+a those notes and move it to at 00:00:408 -
  4. 00:57:486 (1) - would be cool if ya stack it with 00:57:290 (3) -
[kyshiro]
  1. no
[kyversible ex]
  1. no
[extra]
  1. no
[kyversible i]
  1. 01:10:343 (4) - NC this will do xd
not p much. i can only find that though, so yaaa
Natteke desu
Kyshiro fast challenge funny voice
Topic Starter
Irreversible

lit120 wrote:

sup birre o/

[general]
  1. offset 408
  2. it's about a note snap reason from ur cs7 map
  3. so i just realized that you're mapping a cut ver... GOD DAMN IT I HAVE THAT FULL VER. AND I THOUGHT THAT IT'LL BE A FUCKING FULL VER. MAPSET ;w;
[cs7]
  1. 00:14:239 - aw snap, ya didn't map anything here I did?..
  2. 00:51:642 (1) - try to set a slider from 00:51:836 - . that'll do rly Mh, I don't think so because the current rhythm is probably the best choice
  3. ohh ok forget those mods. man... did u intentionally moved all those notes to the wrong beat? .-. ctrl+a those notes and move it to at 00:00:408 - I think you forgot to redownload
  4. 00:57:486 (1) - would be cool if ya stack it with 00:57:290 (3) - Mh, I think it can be more readable like the current version..
[kyshiro]
  1. no
[kyversible ex]
  1. no
[extra]
  1. no
[kyversible i]
  1. 01:10:343 (4) - NC this will do xd Well, I guess
not p much. i can only find that though, so yaaa
Topic Starter
Irreversible
All updated, trying to get a BN :D
7ambda
YES, CS7
Monstrata
Kyshiro's Ultra

00:07:021 (4,1) - This jump pattern starts too early xP 1 isn't supported by the song yet, and sounds quite different from all the other notes. They begin at 00:07:411 - .
00:30:593 (1,2,3,4) - How about emphasizing 4 instead of 3 with your spacing.
00:34:002 (2,3) - Ctrl+G would be nice. With CS this small players are going to follow the slider a lot more closely so the flow won't be as nice here from 1>2 since slider-leniency is really low xP. Ctrl+G would mimic the flow from 00:32:930 (1,2,3) - too
00:45:787 (3,4,1) - I think the jumps from 3>4 are just too big comparatively xP. And emphasizing 1 could be nice.

Kyversible's Extreme

00:13:839 (3,4,5,6) - This is pretty hard to catch tbh. The 1/4 jumps are the same visual spacing as those sliders, but you get twice as much time to play those sliders, so it feels like a really big jump in difficulty. The spacing from 3>4 does suggest 1/4 jump, but then 5 and 6 are like ?___?. I think you can do a smaller pattern arrangement.
00:13:839 (3) - Also, this is following a different set of sounds when compared to the previous two sliders. It's a bit dubious since you're using triangle patterns when the rhythm isn't grouped into sets of 3's...
00:57:281 (7,8) - This jump is way too big... It looks like a 1/2 spacing, but its in fact 1/4... I don't think its fair to expect players to make this jump lol. If it was slider > slider then it'd be more understandable, but not circle > slider.

Kyshiro's Insane

00:07:313 (4) - How about putting this on 00:07:703 - instead? Since the 1/4 sound there is a lot more prominent.
00:13:839 (1) - I think the slider is too short for a curved buzz slider... it just looks like the arrow is lopsided. I think just a simple straight slider will look nicer here, unless you increase SV or something xP>
00:56:112 (1,2) - Swap NC's? Actually the NC rhythm here seems quite off. Like 00:56:891 (1,2) - should be swapped too, unless you have some reason for this arrangement.

I modded the other diffs on IRC: Here are the logs
15:47 Monstrata: you're not following main melody in the intro huh
15:47 Irreversible: Where?
15:47 Monstrata: 00:01:772 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - etc..
15:48 Monstrata: 00:02:356 - vs 00:04:499 -
15:48 Irreversible: I think i followed whatever was like in the background
15:48 Monstrata: one's clickableone isnt
15:48 Irreversible: with the
15:48 Irreversible: uhm
15:48 Irreversible: foreground thing keeping in mind
15:48 Irreversible: Yeah, like
15:49 Irreversible: Lol, you hear that foreground noise right
15:49 Irreversible: which gets higher and higher
15:49 Monstrata: yep
15:49 Irreversible: I felt like if I followed it all the time, it really wouldn't emphasize it enough
15:49 Irreversible: when it's actually outstanding
15:49 Monstrata: 00:07:421 (2,1,2) - what about parts like here then
15:49 Irreversible: lead in to new part
15:49 Monstrata: where you're missing audible uh 00:07:713 - 1/4's
15:50 Monstrata: 00:07:226 (1,2) - like, these two sliders follow really different sounds if you consider their primary layer (like what's most noticeable)
15:50 Irreversible: don't you think it's really weird to have continous 1/4 if you can make a better transition between parts to keep some variation?
15:50 Irreversible: That's true actually
15:50 Monstrata: yea. but well
15:51 Monstrata: i need to raise these just in case xD
15:51 Monstrata: cuz legit this is what i got from quaver haha
15:51 Irreversible: I actually want to change that one
15:51 Monstrata: ok
15:51 Irreversible: as it makes no sense
15:51 Irreversible: musically
15:51 Irreversible: 00:07:216 (1) - is something
15:51 Irreversible: 00:07:411 (2) - is smth else
15:51 Irreversible: but i've made it as one pattern which is .. wrooong
15:51 Monstrata: 00:12:681 (3,1) - another would be here, maybe using streams instead since the main melody is the highest here
15:51 Monstrata: ye
15:52 Irreversible: 00:12:671 (3,1,2) - I think that one makes sense though
15:52 Irreversible: as it follows the most noticable thing entirely
15:53 Monstrata: hm
15:53 Irreversible: maybe the nc can be changed
15:53 Monstrata: yea
15:53 Irreversible: to make it more .. logical
15:53 Irreversible: done!
15:53 Monstrata: but just curious, would you consider that a reasonable enough explanation if it were in a dq post or something?
15:53 Monstrata: xd
15:54 Monstrata: like "rhythm makes sense since it follows the most noticeable layer"
15:54 Monstrata: or something like that
15:54 Monstrata: im just curious cuz maybe i can stop writing essays xD
15:54 Irreversible: I think you should explain it differently
15:54 Irreversible: wait
15:54 Irreversible: 00:01:762 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this is let's call it A
15:55 Irreversible: 00:03:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is B, but B has another transition than A 00:04:489 (3,4) - compare this)
15:55 Monstrata: p/5429879 i had to write all that to basically say "i dont want a stream here" xD
15:55 Irreversible: then we go back to rhythm A
15:55 Irreversible: 00:04:878 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
15:55 Monstrata: ok
15:55 Irreversible: 00:06:437 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - then rhythm C
15:55 Irreversible: because transition
15:55 Irreversible: A B A C
15:55 Irreversible: you can maybe explain it with rhythm.. and variation..
16:00 Monstrata: ye lp
16:01 Irreversible: fixed the first one btw
16:01 Irreversible: don't even want to see how much the sr skyrocketed
16:01 Monstrata: btw 00:05:278 (1,2) - NC
16:01 Irreversible: oh well 7,93
16:01 Monstrata: is this n ecessary?
16:01 Monstrata: the NC' rhythm differs
16:01 Monstrata: 00:01:772 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - like
16:01 Monstrata: it becomes every white tick insteadoof every two
16:03 Monstrata: 00:41:122 (3,7) - symmetry kinda got messed up here, fix stack
16:04 Irreversible: fixed the ncs
16:04 Monstrata: okay
16:04 Irreversible: fixed symmetry
16:05 Monstrata: 00:52:616 (2) - what do you think of Ctrl+G'ing this. I think having the slider going leftward flows better since you'll be moving more to the right of the screen
16:05 Monstrata: so the angle going into the pentagon stream isn't as sharp too
16:06 Irreversible: cool
16:06 Irreversible: 00:52:800 (1) - gives a nice flow change too
16:07 Monstrata: ye
16:08 Monstrata: 00:59:823 (5) - doesn't really feel emphasized
16:08 Monstrata: idk i was thinking: http://puu.sh/r4DEi.jpg
16:09 Monstrata: putting it in the center to emphasize using angle change
16:10 Irreversible: thinking
16:11 Irreversible: gotta be a bit careful because this cs is deadly already
16:11 Monstrata: yea
16:11 Irreversible: maybe 379 139
16:12 Irreversible: (which is ctrl g of current position)
16:12 Monstrata: o that could work too
16:12 Irreversible: ...........
16:12 Irreversible: Q_Q?
16:12 Irreversible: i'm sad
16:12 Irreversible: i just changed 1 note -> 8.05 sv
16:13 Irreversible: 01:00:008 (1,2) - i think i have to change this now
16:13 Irreversible: because gaining speed from this is impossible
16:13 Irreversible: and probably plays bad
16:13 Monstrata: m
16:13 Monstrata: yea
16:13 Monstrata: xd
16:13 Monstrata: damn lol
16:16 Irreversible: I'll talk with kyshiro about it
16:16 Monstrata: ok
16:16 Irreversible: and see and let you know
16:16 Monstrata: i'll uh
16:16 Irreversible: Because I think an antijump isn't so good here
16:16 Monstrata: write down stuff for kyshiro's stuff then
16:16 Monstrata: in forums
16:16 Irreversible: ok!
16:24 Irreversible: thx for helping out btw o.o i bet u got loads o' request
16:24 Irreversible: s
16:25 Monstrata: 00:31:177 (1,2) - blankets off
16:25 Monstrata: Extreme
16:25 Monstrata: wait who did which parts
16:25 Irreversible: could you also post it?
16:26 Monstrata: 00:50:658 (1) - random NC
16:26 Monstrata: sure sure
16:26 Monstrata: i'll just mention the obvious stuff
16:26 Monstrata: here
16:26 Monstrata: and other stuff in forums
16:28 Irreversible: ahh ok
16:28 Monstrata: okay
16:28 Monstrata: Extra
16:28 Monstrata: 00:13:839 (1,2,3) - this felt kinda uh... simple idk
16:28 Monstrata: i guess its fine, but didnt you emphasize this on higher diffs
16:29 Monstrata: 00:39:164 (1,1) - blankets kinda off
16:30 Irreversible: 00:15:842 - never that much tbh
16:30 Irreversible: at least not my parts; will declare them after
16:30 Irreversible: fixed the other 2 things btw
16:30 Irreversible: kinda fixed :D
16:31 Monstrata: okay Extra's pretty good
16:35 Monstrata: Hard
16:35 Monstrata: 00:34:878 (2,3) - Personally, I thin kthe overlap here just doesn't look nice lol
16:35 Monstrata: Like, slider-border overlaps in general trigger me tho xD
16:36 Monstrata: I think a simple blanket would be cleaner
16:36 Monstrata: 00:43:645 (1,3) - these two sliders aren't actually symmetrical btw
16:37 Monstrata: 00:43:645 (1) - You have to Ctrl+G sliders like these twice, before flipping them
16:37 Irreversible: done
16:37 Monstrata: that way the slider-notes get reduced to their lowest possible settings
16:37 Monstrata: 00:48:515 (1,2,1,2) - felt quite empty tbh xP
16:37 Irreversible: ohhh
16:37 Irreversible: thanks for letting me know that
16:37 Irreversible: LOL i was wondering why it's always stupid
16:37 Monstrata: ye xD
16:37 Monstrata: Ctrl+G x2 works wonders xD
16:38 Monstrata: 01:01:762 (3,4) - I don't think this rhythm is appropriate for Hard xP. doublet rhythms are legit so difficult to catch tbh xP
16:39 Monstrata: okay rest is good
16:39 Irreversible: fixed all
16:39 Monstrata: okay
16:39 Monstrata: howd you fix the empty thing
16:39 Monstrata: added more stuff?
16:40 Irreversible: yea
16:40 Irreversible: XD
16:40 Monstrata: okay xD
16:40 Monstrata: Normal
16:40 Irreversible: how else would you fix emptyness
16:40 Monstrata: 00:06:437 (1,3) - This just seems hard to read hmm..
16:40 Monstrata: but ehh its not a slider-end overlap so i think it might still be okay
16:41 Irreversible: or maybe the people are just too weak?
16:41 Irreversible: no one knows....
16:41 Irreversible: loljk lemme check
16:41 Irreversible: hmm..
16:41 Irreversible: Yeah i tried not to use that stuff in easy
16:42 Monstrata: its a bit shady but im okay with it
16:42 Monstrata: 01:02:541 (1,2,3) - spacing between sliders is pretty uneven
16:42 Monstrata: talking about those blankets xD
16:42 Monstrata: 01:07:216 (1,2,3) - Here too
16:42 Irreversible: fix
16:43 Monstrata: Easy
16:43 Irreversible: fixed both*
16:43 Monstrata: Why are SV's so low wat
16:43 Monstrata: why do you have SV changes from 0.50 to 1.00x
16:43 Monstrata: xdd
16:43 Irreversible: uhm
16:43 Monstrata: 00:36:242 (1,1) - not enough recovery time xd
16:43 Irreversible: lagg
16:43 *Irreversible runs far
16:43 Irreversible: OMFG
16:44 Irreversible: DAT BAD JOKE
16:44 Irreversible: I HAD 308 BPM FIRST AND THERE IT WAS OK
16:44 Irreversible: ....................
16:44 Irreversible: god bless
16:44 Monstrata: tbh even if it was 308 bpm
16:44 Irreversible: hahaha noooo
16:44 Monstrata: it would have been too low xD
16:44 Irreversible: rly?
16:44 Irreversible: i thought 4 beats
16:44 Monstrata: yea
16:44 Monstrata: well, uh
16:44 Monstrata: it depends
16:44 Irreversible: where to pend it
16:44 Irreversible: end
16:44 Monstrata: for example, if it were 75 bpm, you wouldn't need 4 beats right?
16:44 Monstrata: it could be 2 beats
16:46 Monstrata: http://puu.sh/r4FGc.png
16:46 Monstrata: we're reworking that cuz "bars" is incorrect
16:46 Monstrata: but yea
16:46 Monstrata: <120 bpm "2 beats" is fine
16:46 Irreversible: makes sense
16:46 Irreversible: :3
16:46 Monstrata: yea
16:47 Irreversible: altho i think like
16:47 Irreversible: 120 to 240 is quite much
16:47 Monstrata: general rule of thumb is 1500 ms for Easy 750 ms for Normal, which just converts pretty well to 4 / 2 beats
16:47 Irreversible: maybe i would already change it at like 180 lol idk
16:47 Monstrata: yea ;P its a pretty big range
16:47 Monstrata: mmhmm
16:47 Irreversible: or 200
16:47 Irreversible: anyway, somehow changed
16:47 Monstrata: kk
16:47 Monstrata: 00:55:528 (2,1) - blanket is off
16:48 Monstrata: 01:02:541 (1) - can you make this even, and less of a bump? It feels a bit scruched up for an Easy slider
16:48 Irreversible: ya
16:48 Monstrata: 01:07:216 (1,2) - i think you should use a 3/2 repeating slider instead... those sliders like barely follow the layer you wanted to follow
16:48 Monstrata: cuz 1/2 on Easy is taboo ;c
16:50 Monstrata: okay, uh fix the SV pls, xd
16:50 Monstrata: and thats all
16:50 Monstrata: o wait
16:50 Monstrata: HP 6.3 on Hard is too high
16:50 Monstrata: HP 5 pls
16:50 Monstrata: Also you can use AR 7.5 i think, or increase the Insane's AR
16:50 Monstrata: actually increase Insane's AR
16:51 Monstrata: since you use a lot of 1/4's
16:51 Monstrata: AR 8.5 - AR 9 is a better range
16:51 Monstrata: okay
16:51 Irreversible: dat settings ?_?
16:51 Monstrata: update after the rest is fixed i'll post logs and mods for kyshiro's stuff
16:51 Monstrata: lol
16:52 Irreversible: ar 7
16:52 Irreversible: for hard o.o
16:52 Irreversible: hmm
16:52 Monstrata: AR 7 is okay too i think
16:52 Irreversible: yeah that should be fine
16:52 Monstrata: Hard doesn't use a lot of 1/4's
16:52 Monstrata: assuming you fixed that single 1/4 doublet
16:52 Monstrata: k
16:52 Irreversible: yea
16:53 Irreversible: about easy
16:53 Irreversible: need to change the sv? because look
16:53 Irreversible: it's not a sudden slowdown
16:53 Monstrata: Insane can still use a buff in AR tho
16:53 Irreversible: i've always put a spinner between it
16:53 Irreversible: I personally think that would be ok but
16:53 Irreversible: yeah i buffed it
16:53 Monstrata: i think you can at least make the range smaller because
16:54 Monstrata: like the thing about sliders on easy is that people make a reference of slider length like if slider is this length, then its a 1/2 slider etc...
16:55 Monstrata: but SV's make it so you can't clearly tell what the slider is, and changing SV's means players have to keep changing their defnition of slider-length
16:55 Monstrata: its why i think SV changes on low diffs aren't good... but if you want to keep, then at least don't make the range like
16:55 Monstrata: 0.50 > 1.00 cuz that's literally doubling slider length xP
16:55 Irreversible: yeah i'll make 0.67
16:55 Irreversible: everywhere
16:55 Monstrata: that might be a bit slow
16:55 Monstrata: nvm
16:55 Monstrata: thats fine
16:56 Irreversible: it's pretty fast
16:56 Monstrata: yea i forgot your base SV on Easy was 1.04 xD
16:56 Monstrata: thought it was like 0.7 or something
Kyshiro

Monstrata wrote:

Kyshiro's Ultra

00:07:021 (4,1) - This jump pattern starts too early xP 1 isn't supported by the song yet, and sounds quite different from all the other notes. They begin at 00:07:411 - . it's better for playability and patternwise
00:30:593 (1,2,3,4) - How about emphasizing 4 instead of 3 with your spacing. fixed
00:34:002 (2,3) - Ctrl+G would be nice. With CS this small players are going to follow the slider a lot more closely so the flow won't be as nice here from 1>2 since slider-leniency is really low xP. Ctrl+G would mimic the flow from 00:32:930 (1,2,3) - too fixed
00:45:787 (3,4,1) - I think the jumps from 3>4 are just too big comparatively xP. And emphasizing 1 could be nice. considering it's an ultra diff i dont think the spacing is too big, it's rather easy to play even, idk how to fix the emphasizing without completely redoing the pattern though and i think it's okay the way it is now

Kyversible's Extreme

00:13:839 (3,4,5,6) - This is pretty hard to catch tbh. The 1/4 jumps are the same visual spacing as those sliders, but you get twice as much time to play those sliders, so it feels like a really big jump in difficulty. The spacing from 3>4 does suggest 1/4 jump, but then 5 and 6 are like ?___?. I think you can do a smaller pattern arrangement. it's really not that hard, it's just 3 circles, and on top of that, in the hardest 2 difficulties this part is mapped with an 1/8 stream, so having jumps instead of a stream to make it slightly easier than the other ones only feels fitting
00:13:839 (3) - Also, this is following a different set of sounds when compared to the previous two sliders. It's a bit dubious since you're using triangle patterns when the rhythm isn't grouped into sets of 3's... the most obvious thing to play according to what it sounds like to me is following the high pitched sound on the 1/2 ticks
00:57:281 (7,8) - This jump is way too big... It looks like a 1/2 spacing, but its in fact 1/4... I don't think its fair to expect players to make this jump lol. If it was slider > slider then it'd be more understandable, but not circle > slider. i didnt do this irre pls y u do dis

Kyshiro's Insane *Kyversible, the things are for irre's parts lol

00:07:313 (4) - How about putting this on 00:07:703 - instead? Since the 1/4 sound there is a lot more prominent.
00:13:839 (1) - I think the slider is too short for a curved buzz slider... it just looks like the arrow is lopsided. I think just a simple straight slider will look nicer here, unless you increase SV or something xP>
00:56:112 (1,2) - Swap NC's? Actually the NC rhythm here seems quite off. Like 00:56:891 (1,2) - should be swapped too, unless you have some reason for this arrangement.
thanksssssssss
Sonnyc
~ Kawabunga! ~
  1. 00:07:411 (1,2,3) - Personally reading the rhythm of this pattern was a little questionable despite the high ar, since the 1/4 spacing of (1,2) and 1/2 spacing of (2,3) was way too similar. Maybe it's just perhaps because I'm not so used to extended slider patterns, so it will be fine if players didn't experienced much difficulty, but anyways I was confused. :3
  2. 00:28:645 (3) - 00:31:762 (3) - 00:34:878 (3) - I can see these are all using the same concept of patterns after a linear shape such as 00:28:060 (1). An inconsistency exists at 00:34:878 (3,5,7) in the aspect of slider curve rate. It is much rounder than the other previous two slider rotation patterns. I hope you to use the consistent curve rate if there is no special reason for a different slider shape.
  3. 00:43:839 (1,1) - The combo color selection could be better here. You can see a similar pattern usage at 00:40:723 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) which is heavily relying on symmetry with tricky triple rhythms. And the next section appears right at 00:43:839 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4), but now it is containing two comboes in the same pattern. I recommend you to remove the combo of 00:44:619 (1), and use a colorhax at 00:43:839 (1) to change it to combo color 4. The color that you consistently used for tricky triple patterns after the break.
  4. 00:52:800 (1,1) - I believe this pentagon's shape could be better polished if you use a 72 degree rotation on each note.
  5. 00:59:716 (4,5,1) - I'm also personally unsure with the rhythm readability for this pattern too with a similar reason. Maybe I hope you can think of a different pattern design here to make the rhythm much clearer inside the pattern. Since your map contains several great patterns, I think making players to rely only on ar to read this rhythm will lose advantage of your good mapping instead of making players to read the actual pattern.
  6. 01:07:605 (5,1) - 01:08:189 (5,1) - 01:08:774 (5,1) - 01:09:358 (5,1) - I recommend you to take a look on these objects and see if the stack setting is done as your intention. I personally feel disabling stacks along the linear stream will be a better setting. Maybe you tried that too, but only 01:07:605 (5,1) worked out. Actually I'd like to suggest using stack leniency 3 to disable 1/2 rhythm stacks. It will affect 00:02:443 (4,2) - 00:37:411 (1,3) - 00:38:579 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:49:099 (1,2,3) - 00:54:359 (1,2,1) - 01:00:008 (1,1) - 01:00:982 (1,2,3,4) - etc. Maybe 00:54:359 (1,2,1) without a stack might look not natural depending on your preference, so please check that out. Also since it will affect the zigzag stack streams such as 00:38:579 (1,2,3,4,5), also check out if the current version is your intended pattern, or the one without the stack is.
Great quality. Nice analyze of music structure, and good usage of patterns representing the music consistently. It's a happy thing to spend time on looking good maps~
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Sonnyc wrote:

~ Kawabunga! ~
  1. 00:07:411 (1,2,3) - Personally reading the rhythm of this pattern was a little questionable despite the high ar, since the 1/4 spacing of (1,2) and 1/2 spacing of (2,3) was way too similar. Maybe it's just perhaps because I'm not so used to extended slider patterns, so it will be fine if players didn't experienced much difficulty, but anyways I was confused. :3 You are right, I've adjusted it but I need some more feedback now.
  2. 00:28:645 (3) - 00:31:762 (3) - 00:34:878 (3) - I can see these are all using the same concept of patterns after a linear shape such as 00:28:060 (1). An inconsistency exists at 00:34:878 (3,5,7) in the aspect of slider curve rate. It is much rounder than the other previous two slider rotation patterns. I hope you to use the consistent curve rate if there is no special reason for a different slider shape. What a nice catch, fixed!
  3. 00:43:839 (1,1) - The combo color selection could be better here. You can see a similar pattern usage at 00:40:723 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) which is heavily relying on symmetry with tricky triple rhythms. And the next section appears right at 00:43:839 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4), but now it is containing two comboes in the same pattern. I recommend you to remove the combo of 00:44:619 (1), and use a colorhax at 00:43:839 (1) to change it to combo color 4. The color that you consistently used for tricky triple patterns after the break. Done!
  4. 00:52:800 (1,1) - I believe this pentagon's shape could be better polished if you use a 72 degree rotation on each note. I believe I did that >_<
  5. 00:59:716 (4,5,1) - I'm also personally unsure with the rhythm readability for this pattern too with a similar reason. Maybe I hope you can think of a different pattern design here to make the rhythm much clearer inside the pattern. Since your map contains several great patterns, I think making players to rely only on ar to read this rhythm will lose advantage of your good mapping instead of making players to read the actual pattern. I think a slider made it more readable!
  6. 01:07:605 (5,1) - 01:08:189 (5,1) - 01:08:774 (5,1) - 01:09:358 (5,1) - I recommend you to take a look on these objects and see if the stack setting is done as your intention. I personally feel disabling stacks along the linear stream will be a better setting. Maybe you tried that too, but only 01:07:605 (5,1) worked out. Actually I'd like to suggest using stack leniency 3 to disable 1/2 rhythm stacks. It will affect 00:02:443 (4,2) - 00:37:411 (1,3) - 00:38:579 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:49:099 (1,2,3) - 00:54:359 (1,2,1) - 01:00:008 (1,1) - 01:00:982 (1,2,3,4) - etc. Maybe 00:54:359 (1,2,1) without a stack might look not natural depending on your preference, so please check that out. Also since it will affect the zigzag stack streams such as 00:38:579 (1,2,3,4,5), also check out if the current version is your intended pattern, or the one without the stack is. Checked and fixed.
Great quality. Nice analyze of music structure, and good usage of patterns representing the music consistently. It's a happy thing to spend time on looking good maps~
Hi, thanks for your random mod, quite surprising! :)

Cool mod, I really appreciate this.
Topic Starter
Irreversible
Fixed all in Insane by the way.
Monstrata
Kawabunga

00:59:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - This still feels way too big. The 1/4's here aren't as strong as in other places.
01:09:651 (2) - Here I think it's kinda okay since you want a controlled movement to 01:09:749 (3) - with twice the speed. Angle change isn't that harsh, and you have some time after hitting 01:09:749 (3) - before the next object. Maybe i'm answering my concern, but can you just elaborate a bit here?

Just let me hear your thoughts for those two before I move this forward.
Topic Starter
Irreversible

Monstrata wrote:

Kawabunga

00:59:424 (1,2,3,4,5) - This still feels way too big. The 1/4's here aren't as strong as in other places.
01:09:651 (2) - Here I think it's kinda okay since you want a controlled movement to 01:09:749 (3) - with twice the speed. Angle change isn't that harsh, and you have some time after hitting 01:09:749 (3) - before the next object. Maybe i'm answering my concern, but can you just elaborate a bit here? I will try to explain my thoughts here as good as I can! So, you might also know that I map really closely to the vocals - if you compare these vocals with others, you will quickly find out why I've used such a high spacing here. In my opinion, this is definitely the peak of the kiai, as her voice is the most "cheering", if you will. I additionally think that the background also supports the sudden increase of distance, however. So considering that this is the strongest section in the kiai, I think the 1/4 are warranted. After getting some testplays, I have realized that the square won't be a good pattern here, since it was difficult to combine my thought of distance with a playable pattern - with the angle changes, the star will be better. You've also spoken about the time you have to click, that's another addition I actually made; 00:59:813 (5,6) - if you see this slider, this works as a little break for the player.

Just let me hear your thoughts for those two before I move this forward.
I hope that explains it!
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