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Xiaolin

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

nice bg
Inb4 disqualified
Anxient

Lapis Aoki wrote:

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

nice bg
Inb4 disqualified
there is no justice
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
I WILL AVENGE DAD

Edit: Added Voli in tags, and created a new Light Insane diff to fit the difficulty spread. yeyuh
Edit2: AAAAAAAND disabled widescreen support in every diff.
[-obee58-]
yea yeh smth ohey boiz
voli diff only bc voli asked

blanket mod:
00:56:691 (1) - blanket 2px off
01:11:691 (1) - upright? slightly off?
00:03:713 (2) - down 1px?
00:10:415 (1) - slightly off, but maybe because stack
00:11:691 (2) - right 1

and now for ACTUAL still garbage A E S T H E T I C mod:

01:01:160 (1) - can't this be slightly closer? idk upright
01:06:266 (1,1) - and these can be farther apart
01:06:904 (1) - weird slider
01:08:819 (1) - weird slider
01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - spacing??
#01:12:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - nerf stream so i can ezpp pls /s

nothing else rly i dont think im lazy
kds plz
Voli

[-obee58-] wrote:

yea yeh smth ohey boiz
voli diff only bc voli asked

blanket mod:
00:56:691 (1) - blanket 2px off
01:11:691 (1) - upright? slightly off?
00:03:713 (2) - down 1px?
00:10:415 (1) - slightly off, but maybe because stack
00:11:691 (2) - right 1 Ok dad fixed all of them

and now for ACTUAL still garbage A E S T H E T I C mod:

01:01:160 (1) - can't this be slightly closer? idk upright yes sure
01:06:266 (1,1) - and these can be farther apart na it ruins the pattern :(
01:06:904 (1) - weird slider thx
01:08:819 (1) - weird slider thx
01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - spacing?? its fitting tho!
#01:12:649 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - nerf stream so i can ezpp pls /s Ok nerfed by 1px

nothing else rly i dont think im lazy
kds plz
[-obee58-]

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Modders: Weriko, Yahuri, Voli, Anxient, Plaudible, Nerova Riuz GX, [-obee58-],
yay im famous
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

[-obee58-] wrote:

yay im famous
are you a mutant
Lully
kakkoii. ~
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

CookieKivi wrote:

kakkoii. ~
(~ ;u;)
Sieg
cool
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

Sieg wrote:

cool
ikr ty ty ty ty
Seijiro

Nerova Riuz GX wrote:

[sergio]
though this looks well-managed, it still shows your overdependence on back'n'forth jumps. i believe you can understand that.

  1. 00:05:787 (4) - i was surprised because from your nc usage there should be a nc for this straight pattern why not
  2. 00:11:053 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - the beats are fine, but your cursor has to move only up and down all the way through this part. doesn't feel good tbh. can try something like this one if you're willing to make some changes here. nice suggestion, but does it change that much a non-existent problem? I could even use your pattern which is just a rotation of mine, but why?
  3. 00:17:596 (1,2,3,4,5) - a weird pattern as well. from the pattern it seems like (5) is the one which really got emphasized, but there's nothing important in that place. should better reconsider the execution. stacked 5 under 4 for the time being
  4. 00:19:989 (3,4) - 00:22:542 (5,1,2) - aren't those jumps too huge? They seem like don't fit their strengths. reduced second one
  5. 00:31:798 (1,2,3) - it's quite obvious that this straight pattern is intentionally placed, but I guess starting them on 00:31:479 - is a better idea. inside of this pattern, (2) is a useless note which doesn't contribute much to this. since you're mainly mapping to the vocal, it will be better to leave this spot. I find it fine as it is, since the build up was mainly made to emphasize 00:32:436 (5) - at the end of the combo
  6. 01:23:340 (4,5,1,1) - it's kinda icky to have so much things crowded together, especially there are several kinds of changes (extended slider, sv change, etc.) I would suggest you to expand them so they won't make unnecessary confusions. I used previously similar spacings and the SV starts only from 01:24:138 (1) - and it actually flows naturally if you play it
I forgot to check this thread =w=


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ConsumerOfBean
hllo
i wont be modding ur dad or voli's sexxtra because im lazy (it's a nm i have an excuse >:C)
The General's Insurance Company
spread between Normal > Hard is literal trash, i'd make an advanced
Easy
OD1?!?!? do we live in different universes? i'd use 2 at the absolute least for this SR
00:03:713 (1) - make this a 1/1 slider that starts at the white tick before it because it feels empty ;(
00:15:202 (2,1) - is this supposed to be a blanket? if so please improov :(
Normal
00:39:457 (1,2,3) - move 3 up so that 1,2 and 2,3 kinda look more similar-ish like that
Hard
00:50:628 (6,1) - whats with the 1/1 gap, there's a noise on the red tick inbetween? or at least push back the spinner and extend it
Light Insane
00:22:702 (4,5,6) - the spacing inbetween 4,5 and 5,6 are nearly the same but one is 1/2 and one is 1/1.. kinda hard for new-ish-bies to read :C
00:57:968 (9,10,11,12) - can you not do a slider end stream pls
MrSergio's Insane
od7 is oldschool get with the times (i'm joking but i'd raise it to 7.5 myself, your choice)
00:20:468 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - i can understand what you're doing here but that spacing from 4,1 to 1,2 (and 2,3) is really strange
short mod because this is actually a decent set (my excuse for everything)
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

FailureAtOsu wrote:

hllo
i wont be modding ur dad or voli's sexxtra because im lazy (it's a nm i have an excuse >:C) lmao it's okay xddd at least you modded the easier ones llo
The General's Insurance Company
spread between Normal > Hard is literal trash, i'd make an advanced Oh ffs, time to speedmap another diff for spreads uuuuggghh eight diffs spread on TV size incoming!!

Easy
OD1?!?!? do we live in different universes? i'd use 2 at the absolute least for this SR Well, it'd look pretty harsh for like, super-beginner players. And since it's the easiest diff around, OD1 looks pretty necessary imo.
00:03:713 (1) - make this a 1/1 slider that starts at the white tick before it because it feels empty ;( I probably like to keep it ez pz, more easier than 1/1 slider. So a simple click on the strongest beat in this part is also okay tho~
00:15:202 (2,1) - is this supposed to be a blanket? if so please improov :( Okay

Normal
00:39:457 (1,2,3) - move 3 up so that 1,2 and 2,3 kinda look more similar-ish Well actually in here, I rotate them around 15 or sth xddd and just moved them for the 1x spacing. Yours is good too, however I kinda don't like objects or slider tails that's NEARLY getting out of the screen. So yeah... like that
Why is Kyubey there

Hard
00:50:628 (6,1) - whats with the 1/1 gap, there's a noise on the red tick inbetween? or at least push back the spinner and extend it Hmm nvm I'm gonna fill the rhythm by replacing the circle into a slider anyway. I hope it's not gonna be that hard ;/

Light Insane
00:22:702 (4,5,6) - the spacing inbetween 4,5 and 5,6 are nearly the same but one is 1/2 and one is 1/1.. kinda hard for new-ish-bies to read :C Okay, reduced the spacing on slider (5) a little bit, hopefully might work better ;p
00:57:968 (9,10,11,12) - can you not do a slider end stream pls TBH It'd look a bit easier to notice the stream parts when it comes up to slider ends. It wouldn't affect playability even if I changed this into circles-only stream.

short mod because this is actually a decent set (my excuse for everything)
Will apply them soon, placeholding~

THANK YOU SO MUCHY!!! CV is dumb af

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......EIGHT DIFFS
fat pear

[ Easy]
  1. 00:13:925 (1) - Make this the same as 00:15:202 (2) flipped horizontally?
  2. 00:18:394 (3) - Try making this the same as 00:17:755 (2). It has better flow and is more aesthetically pleasant in my opinion.
  3. 00:21:585 (1) - Maybe make this a vertical straight slider? there is enough space and ^ same reason.

[ Normal]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,2,3) - I don't think this fits the rhythm at all, try changing it to something better that fits with the music.
  2. 00:19:032 (1,2,3,4) - Here's a suggestion for the rhythm:
  3. 01:23:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here's a suggestion:

[ Hard]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,2) - I think the slider should go first instead of the circle, if you don't want to change that that's fine.
  2. 00:11:372 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The rhythm is not consistent with 00:16:479 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
  3. 00:53:500 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here's a suggestion:
    If you do change it, then change the other ones that are like this.

[ MrSergio's Insane]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,1) - Overlap
  2. 00:28:606 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Not entirely straight.
  3. 00:55:255 (3) - I think this is better off being a 1/2 slider
  4. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - These 2 circle stacks are confusing in my opinion, I think they're better off as 1/2 sliders as well.
  5. 01:16:957 (2) - I think this should be a 1/1 slider, it fits the music well.

[ Voli's Extra]
  1. 00:07:542 (5) - Try changing these to circles, because it's on a downbeat.
  2. 00:22:702 (6,1) - I suggest you remove (1) and make (6) a 1/1 slider, because we're prioritising the vocals here and there is no sound at 00:22:862.
  3. 00:25:255 (6,1) - ^
  4. 00:32:436 (5) - Asymmetrical
  5. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe use 1/2 sliders instead of 3/4 sliders unless you can think of a better option, because the sudden extended (3/4) sliders seem out of place.
  6. 01:21:585 (1) - I recommend just making this 1 circle, because the sudden SV change can throw off some players.
  7. 01:25:255 (1,1,2) - Overmap, just make it an 1/1 slider
  8. 01:26:691 (1,2,3,4) - Overmap, just make them 4 1/2 circles


[ Cool!]
  1. 00:36:585 (11) - Try making this a 1/2 slider?
  2. 01:06:904 (4,8) - Overlap
  3. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - Same reason in Voli's diff, "Maybe use 1/2 sliders instead of 3/4 sliders unless you can think of a better option, because the sudden extended (3/4) sliders seem out of place."
  4. 01:26:372 (14,15,1,2,3) - Here's a suggestion:

A very decent map!

Good luck!

before edit
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
pH

microism wrote:


[ Easy]
  1. 00:13:925 (1) - Make this the same as 00:15:202 (2) flipped horizontally? Well, not sure it's still okay to make a change on this because of the blanket on 00:15:202 (2,1) - would be a bit too linear with using a lot of those sharp sliders. So yeah, I might keep it just not to make things a little boring.
  2. 00:18:394 (3) - Try making this the same as 00:17:755 (2). It has better flow and is more aesthetically pleasant in my opinion. Aaaaand this one, Sure.
  3. 00:21:585 (1) - Maybe make this a vertical straight slider? there is enough space and ^ same reason. I probably made a little anchoring on the slider tick to notice the 1/4 rhythm difference here, well maybe barely but it's still noticeable tbh.

[ Normal]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,2,3) - I don't think this fits the rhythm at all, try changing it to something better that fits with the music. Was thinking about it, yeah. So probably the new one would at least suffice the complex tracking on this part.
  2. 00:19:032 (1,2,3,4) - Here's a suggestion for the rhythm: Right here, there's a rhythm consistency falls over this part. With the previous ones already been passed until here. And I haven't changed any of them tho, so this would literally break it for sure. Thanks for the efforts btw!
  3. 01:23:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here's a suggestion: Whoa, that rhythm you suggested is NEARLY the same as the Hard diff. For the sake of note density, I don't think this should be implemented. Well, as long as the current suffices the emphasis on track. There's no problem with this imo. Thanks again~

[ Hard]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,2) - I think the slider should go first instead of the circle, if you don't want to change that that's fine. I actually prefer circles hitting up the downbeat more than a slider because yeah, intensive cymbal. But somewhat I'm doing that less often unless so. Probably the same like 00:24:138 (1) -
  2. 00:11:372 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The rhythm is not consistent with 00:16:479 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) Oh, good catch.
  3. 00:53:500 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here's a suggestion:
    If you do change it, then change the other ones that are like this.
    It sounds really good and okay with the vocals, but the sounds and instruments are probably been skipped over that slider (2), especially the white tick for the percussion. I probably think I should keep the current one for sure. Thanks for the efforts~

[ Cool!]
  1. 00:36:585 (11) - Try making this a 1/2 slider? I wanted to indicate a manual stacking here. Replacing this to slider might make the note density takes over the track's. So maybe not.
  2. 01:06:904 (4,8) - Overlap Hardly noticeable, but every overlap I did is intentional ;3
  3. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - Same reason in Voli's diff, "Maybe use 1/2 sliders instead of 3/4 sliders unless you can think of a better option, because the sudden extended (3/4) sliders seem out of place." Four measures of the rhythm composition and consistency is totally enough during the kiai. So I've started mainstreaming the vocals a bit more depth in order to fill up the rhythm. If I really do that, you'd just usually hear more boring 1/2 spaced sliders and these old-fashioned stuffs. I wanted to try different things much more suitable than that.
  4. 01:26:372 (14,15,1,2,3) - Here's a suggestion:Ehh, there's an audible drumming on the track on 01:26:771 (2) - , which sounds very very clear tbh. And for 01:26:372 (14) -, following the ride sound ofc.

A very decent map!

Good luck!

before edit
WOW DUDENICE
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seijiro
@FailureAtOsu The fact it may be strange is understandable, but can you give me a screen or some more feedback, because I think it's fine imo

microism wrote:

[ MrSergio's Insane]
  1. 00:08:819 (1,1) - Overlap lol, it doesn't show up in gameplay so no problem at all
  2. 00:28:606 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Not entirely straight. check with stacking enabled and you'll see why the last note is placed like that
  3. 00:55:255 (3) - I think this is better off being a 1/2 slider actually, I think it should be a 1/1 slider, but I had no space so I ended up with that stack. I'll see if anyone else can suggest something cool to replace it
  4. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - These 2 circle stacks are confusing in my opinion, I think they're better off as 1/2 sliders as well. yeah, thought so myself for a while
  5. 01:16:957 (2) - I think this should be a 1/1 slider, it fits the music well. I actually think the reverse slider gives a nice sprint for the next object tho (and it follows well the song imo)

Thanks for your mods, guys~


Update
Voli

microism wrote:

[ Voli's Extra]
  1. 00:07:542 (5) - Try changing these to circles, because it's on a downbeat. Done
  2. 00:22:702 (6,1) - I suggest you remove (1) and make (6) a 1/1 slider, because we're prioritising the vocals here and there is no sound at 00:22:862. By making them notes I can still make the vocals clickable without skipping downbeats
  3. 00:25:255 (6,1) - ^ ^
  4. 00:32:436 (5) - Asymmetrical It's not supposed to be symmetrical!
  5. 01:15:202 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe use 1/2 sliders instead of 3/4 sliders unless you can think of a better option, because the sudden extended (3/4) sliders seem out of place. these play fine regardless of the DS since you can make use of slider leniency in all of these sliders. I moved 01:15:521 (2) - a bit to the left tho so the pattern is a little more compact
  6. 01:21:585 (1) - I recommend just making this 1 circle, because the sudden SV change can throw off some players. Ew that's so boring D: No thanks, it's not that hard to see the SV change cuz of the NC + shape of the slider makes it hard to miss on it
  7. 01:25:255 (1,1,2) - Overmap, just make it an 1/1 slider That's not an overmap coz there are strong beats on all of those
  8. 01:26:691 (1,2,3,4) - Overmap, just make them 4 1/2 circles Then it would follow the same beat as it does now? wh
Thx 4 da moD!

update here
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
dad updated

now, gonna start mapping a new diff...
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Edit: ...

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It's done.
Nelka714
hi there

Easy

  1. imo ar4 is a bit too much for easy. how about ar3?
  2. 00:26:691 (1,4) - 4 isn't perfectly stacked with 1 tbh.
looks fine, i guess

Normal

  1. how about ar5?
  2. 00:08:819 (1,2,3) - the rhythm feels weird, for me. how about this? http://puu.sh/qY8cs/107f3390f3.jpg
  3. 01:24:138 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - probably just me, but the rhythm feels weird 'cause it has same sound as 00:08:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , but mapped with different rhythm. also, might want to nc 2 'cause your other diffs did nc there.

Advanced

  1. 00:54:777 (4,5) - imo it will plays better if you either ctrl+g the rhythm or just make them a 1/2 repeat slider.
    same with 00:59:883 (4,5) - 01:04:989 (4,5) - 01:10:096 (4,5) - etc that similiar with these.
probably also applicable on your other higher diffs with similiar patterning? idk

Hard

  1. 00:03:394 (1) - i prefer to just make them 2 circles instead. just my opinion.
  2. 00:54:138 (3,4,5) - imo rhythm like this feels better. http://puu.sh/qYdpn/7cc67c0074.jpg
    same with 00:59:245 (3,4,5) - 01:04:351 (3,4,5) - and the others similiar pattern.
  3. 01:02:436 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 01:15:202 (4,5,6) - 01:17:755 (5,6,7) - looking at how these sections at Advanced are more "dense" than Hard, you might want to make them more dense/swap the density/others.
  4. 01:14:404 - Advanced didn't skipped this beat, but Hard did. add note on it?

Light Insane

  1. 00:32:915 - is the beat skipped on purpose?
  2. 01:14:404 - same thing as in Hard.
  3. 01:15:202 (5) - 01:15:840 (7) - kinda dislike at how these extended sliders skipped beat on red tick. i would just make them 1/2 sliders.
  4. 01:21:346 (9,10,11,1) - idk, but this feels overmapped. tho, my first intention is that it might be too hard to catch 9 after 01:20:308 (5,6,7,8) - section (3 1/4 repeat sliders every 1/2 gap) for light insane. i would just delete 9 to give 1/2 gap from 8 for easier catch and probably also delete 11 for overmapped issue?

MrSergio's Insane

  1. 00:11:053 (1) - imo it would be better as a circle and slider to make the downbeat clickable. http://puu.sh/qYeSO/a9d4625c01.jpg
  2. 00:13:606 (1,2) - i prefer to swap the nc so the nc change happen at downbeat.
    same with 00:18:713 (1,2) - 00:26:372 (1,2) - 00:27:649 (1,2) - 00:34:351 (3,1) - 00:48:074 (1,2) -
  3. 00:56:053 (1) - 00:56:691 (3) - kinda dislike at how these and other similiar sliders skipped beat on red tick. how about changing them into 1/2?

i think that's all
i hope this helps a bit
Aniviuh
New to modding so don't yell at me :ss
Easy:
01:03:394 (4) - (Optional) I feel like you should add a note here with Finish, clap and soft addition. Just feels better you know?
01:13:606 (4) - (Optional) ^
Normal:
00:16:479 (1,2) - Move these down a bit so the player doesn't have to go back then fourth in a harsh angle. (Something like this: http://imgur.com/a/OsKEL )
00:44:564 (1,2) - ^ Here it's not as bad, but a slight adjustment would be nice.
00:58:287 (4) - Add finish sound hit.
01:03:394 (4) - ^
Advanced:
00:57:968 (7) - ^
01:03:234 (8) - ^
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

Nelka714 wrote:

hi there

Easy

  1. imo ar4 is a bit too much for easy. how about ar3? Sure
  2. 00:26:691 (1,4) - 4 isn't perfectly stacked with 1 tbh. I stacked it ._. idk how did it manage to unstack one grid itself but fixed it anyways ;p
looks fine, i guess

Normal

  1. how about ar5? Okay
  2. 00:08:819 (1,2,3) - the rhythm feels weird, for me. how about this? http://puu.sh/qY8cs/107f3390f3.jpg OH FINALLY a good suggest for this rhythm, why didn't I think of that at first lmao
  3. 01:24:138 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - probably just me, but the rhythm feels weird 'cause it has same sound as 00:08:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , but mapped with different rhythm. also, might want to nc 2 'cause your other diffs did nc there. Well yeah, there's a little difference between this and the intro, I probably think this gives more intensity for the downbeat even though it's barely audible. But it really is if you heard it a little more deeper. So yeah, keeping it~

Advanced

  1. 00:54:777 (4,5) - imo it will plays better if you either ctrl+g the rhythm or just make them a 1/2 repeat slider.
    same with 00:59:883 (4,5) - 01:04:989 (4,5) - 01:10:096 (4,5) - etc that similar with these.
    Oh, that rhythm is quite really okay and fine though. Emphasizes density correctly. But I undoubtedly think the current one has more emphasis on the vocals imho, as how the vocals land on the red tick it's very much deserved to be clickable. So I think a slider here should be suitable for the track here. So worries, it doesn't hurt a lot of the rhythm composition tho ;p
probably also applicable on your other higher diffs with similiar patterning? idk It's just look-alike normal diff but spaced out more it's k llo C;

Hard

  1. 00:03:394 (1) - i prefer to just make them 2 circles instead. just my opinion. Hmm yeah, I did that in Advanced diff so maybe I should do here for a tiny consistency.
  2. 00:54:138 (3,4,5) - imo rhythm like this feels better. http://puu.sh/qYdpn/7cc67c0074.jpg
    same with 00:59:245 (3,4,5) - 01:04:351 (3,4,5) - and the others similiar pattern.
    Uhmm Nearly the same reasoning as in the previous diff.
  3. 01:02:436 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - 01:15:202 (4,5,6) - 01:17:755 (5,6,7) - looking at how these sections at Advanced are more "dense" than Hard, you might want to make them more dense/swap the density/others. Ahh, since I was mainstreaming the vocals here, it is not necessary to be the same thing as Advanced more likely. Each diff should have different density and notes conspiracy. I don't think this should be implemented imo.
  4. 01:14:404 - Advanced didn't skipped this beat, but Hard did. add note on it? Okay

Light Insane

  1. 00:32:915 - is the beat skipped on purpose? Yeah, it's a little calm part so I'd give it some space for a tiny rest.
  2. 01:14:404 - same thing as in Hard. Okay
  3. 01:15:202 (5) - 01:15:840 (7) - kinda dislike at how these extended sliders skipped beat on red tick. i would just make them 1/2 sliders. Well, I tried my best. But ended up mainstreaming the vocals a bit. I also did sth similar like this kind of rhythm on my cool diff tho. So a very small consistency is there~
  4. 01:21:346 (9,10,11,1) - idk, but this feels overmapped. tho, my first intention is that it might be too hard to catch 9 after 01:20:308 (5,6,7,8) - section (3 1/4 repeat sliders every 1/2 gap) for light insane. i would just delete 9 to give 1/2 gap from 8 for easier catch and probably also delete 11 for overmapped issue? Well, for first; It's a light Insane, I did a harder stream at first tho so I'm pretty sure this looks more easier than this one by readability and playstyle. And for second, there's a continuous drumming until the next track, it can obviously be heard. So I think this circle doesn't sound really like "overmapping".

i think that's all
i hope this helps a bit

ViolentBoo wrote:

New to modding so don't yell at me :ss Aww it's okay ;333/ I'll be gentle~
Easy:
01:03:394 (4) - (Optional) I feel like you should add a note here with Finish, clap and soft addition. Just feels better you know? For rhythm consistency with the four other similar tracks. Adding a note might not work good imo. And it'd increase density ofc, so I didn't want an Easy diff to be "hard". So yeah ;p
01:13:606 (4) - (Optional) ^
Normal:
00:16:479 (1,2) - Move these down a bit so the player doesn't have to go back then fourth in a harsh angle. (Something like this: http://imgur.com/a/OsKEL ) Well, if it's for polishing... yeah I'll do that~
00:44:564 (1,2) - ^ Here it's not as bad, but a slight adjustment would be nice. Ehh, this one... I changed it a bit for structure...
00:58:287 (4) - Add finish sound hit. It'd sound too much for the hitsound emphasis, especially the next cymbal on 00:58:606 (1) - It'd be too loud imo. The issues below are likely the same thing as here.
01:03:394 (4) - ^
Advanced:
00:57:968 (7) - ^
01:03:234 (8) - ^
Will continue applying all mods and give kds after I'm done streaming a tourney. Alright

THANKS both OF you <333
Seijiro

Nelka714 wrote:

hi there

MrSergio's Insane

  1. 00:11:053 (1) - imo it would be better as a circle and slider to make the downbeat clickable. http://puu.sh/qYeSO/a9d4625c01.jpg well, I get what modders are saying here, but I as following vocals there as you can notice from the next circles
  2. 00:13:606 (1,2) - i prefer to swap the nc so the nc change happen at downbeat. NCs are meant for emphasizing downbeats in the song, which is also where the musical stanza starts. I see no problem for those spots NC-wise tbh :/
    same with 00:18:713 (1,2) - 00:26:372 (1,2) - 00:27:649 (1,2) - 00:34:351 (3,1) - 00:48:074 (1,2) -
  3. 00:56:053 (1) - 00:56:691 (3) - kinda dislike at how these and other similiar sliders skipped beat on red tick. how about changing them into 1/2? I was following vocals there and in particular the chorus voices that yell "hey" after the main vocalist

i think that's all
i hope this helps a bit
Thanks for the mod, but I guess no changes for this one :/
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
diraimur
i approve that difficulty
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
no u dont stap lying, cuz u didnt put a flame icon

im calling dad
diraimur
plzno
jawns
Yo, a mod from my queue!

Starting with the Cool difficulty...

Cool!:

You could think about following the drums at 00:00:521 (you could use repeat sliders if you don't want to start on a stream), and the guitar between 00:01:160 (1) - and 00:04:989 (1) - , though it might be a bit late to change that now. What you've mapped makes sense as well, I just think mapping the whole intro could be interesting, especially if you did something to differentiate between the lead guitar and the drums. No change necessary though.

00:05:787 (4) - I would have 2 hit circles here, since there are two very clear snare drum hits.

00:08:819 (1) - and onward, I feel like you don't follow the drums as well as you could. For example, 00:08:979 (2) - isn't very important for the melody, so I think that could be a stream/two kick sliders/something that follows the drums. 00:09:298 (4) - this slider goes over a white tick with a clear drum hit, which is a bit weird. 00:09:617 (5) - There's a very important note in the melody on the slider end, I think it should be emphasized with a hit circle instead.

00:12:330 (4) - Important note on the slider end that should be emphasized. Maybe something like this?

00:15:840 (1,2) - I feel like these could be emphasized even more if you increased the distance a little bit.

00:20:947 (10) - Very clear drum hit on the slider end, should be a hit circle in my opinion.

00:26:053 (10) - The guitar and drums are interesting here, you could consider mapping those

00:30:761 (7,8,9,10,11) - This doesn't follow the drums very well. There is a clear triple in the drums starting at the slider end of 00:30:840 (8) - but you mapped a triple starting at 00:31:160 (9) - instead, which is very confusing. You could have something like this instead:
or just leave out the 00:30:761 (7) - :

00:31:319 (11) - The slider head is not emphasized a lot in the music, but the slider tail is. The slider tail should be a hit circle, you can consider making the slider head into a slider tail as well

00:34:351 (1,4) - Again, important notes on slider ends. You could fix this by making 00:34:032 (9) - into a repeat slider, make 00:34:032 (9) - single notes and make 00:34:032 (9) - a slider.

00:40:734 (5,6,7) - These should be emphasized a lot more, since it's a lot different from just the vocals before. First I think it should be NC, second I would probably space them out more.

00:46:479 (5,6,7) - These drums are different from 00:45:840 (1,2,3,4) - so I think they should be mapped differently.

The chorus seems good to me

01:26:612 (15) - I would delete this note, since you don't really follow the drums for most of the outro, so it's a bit confusing. Either that, or you could focus a bit more on the drums in the outro in general.

Even though I did have a lot of small criticisms, I think this is my favourite difficulty of the set. It's an interesting map for an interesting song. Definitely a big fan of this one.


Voli's Extra:
You could think about following the drums at 00:00:521 (you could use repeat sliders if you don't want to start on a stream), and the guitar between 00:01:160 (1) - and 00:04:989 (1) - , though it might be a bit late to change that now. What you've mapped makes sense as well, I just think mapping the whole intro could be interesting, especially if you did something to differentiate between the lead guitar and the drums. No change necessary though.

00:08:819 (1,1) - I would probably add a stream to the end of these sliders to follow the drums.

There are quite a few places where there's an important sound on a slider end, which I think should be emphasized better (like 00:12:649 (1) - 00:15:202 (1) - 00:19:351 (2) - etc)

00:11:851 (3) - is emphasized a lot more in the music than 00:12:011 (4) - , shouldn't the map reflect that?

00:22:862 (1) - this beat is very weak in the song, I don't think anything justifies this jump
00:25:415 (1) - ^

00:25:415 (1) - very important note in the song that is mapped to a slider end. Same goes with 00:34:989 (5) - and 00:35:628 (1) - .

01:14:564 (4) - on the slider end again, the beginning of a line in the vocals begin here, so I think it should be emphasized better.

That's all I really have for this map. Not much and I repeat myself a lot, but it looks like a very solid map.



MrSergio's Insane:
You could think about following the drums at 00:00:521 (you could use repeat sliders if you don't want to start on a stream), and the guitar between 00:01:160 (1) - and 00:04:989 (1) - , though it might be a bit late to change that now. What you've mapped makes sense as well, I just think mapping the whole intro could be interesting, especially if you did something to differentiate between the lead guitar and the drums. No change necessary though.

00:09:936 (1,2,3) - I think it's a bit weird that you mapped the drums here, but at no point during 00:08:819 (1,2,3,4,5) - .

Continuing with the theme from the two previous mods, there are a lot of slider ends on important sounds in the music. A few examples: 00:12:489 (1) - , 00:17:596 (1) - , 00:22:702 (1) - .

Kinda the same criticism, but I think it is even more clear on 00:27:330 (4) - and 00:28:606 (4) - .

00:35:628 (1) - And again, very important sound in the music on slider end.

00:49:670 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Just wanted to point out that I think this works really well :)

01:19:032 (1) - Sorry for repeating myself, but again, important sound on slider end

I'm sorry for repeating myself a lot, but I'm having a hard time thinking about stuff to criticize (which is a good thing). Maybe I would have liked it if you had followed the drums a bit more during 00:08:819 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - and 01:24:138 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - , but I think that might be hard to do without making the map too difficult.


All in all I think this is a very good set, with some very solid and interesting maps. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
I guess it's time to explain a lot of important things on your mod, might be useful to link them later on in case other people after this has similar concerns. Take that back.

jawns wrote:

Yo, a mod from my queue!

Starting with the Cool difficulty...

Cool!:

You could think about following the drums at 00:00:521 (you could use repeat sliders if you don't want to start on a stream), and the guitar between 00:01:160 (1) - and 00:04:989 (1) - , though it might be a bit late to change that now. What you've mapped makes sense as well, I just think mapping the whole intro could be interesting, especially if you did something to differentiate between the lead guitar and the drums. No change necessary though.
Well, that explained a bit why mustn't I fully map the intro smh. Easier to read the first note, and easier to click the best note over it. Really not changing it.

00:05:787 (4) - I would have 2 hit circles here, since there are two very clear snare drum hits.
I don't really think two circles would really fit best on this one. I know it gives a little more impact of the drums. But really, the ongoing upbeats which on 00:05:947 - actually lands a greater hit. I don't matter snares as much as they suddenly turned into percussion in the next few tracks. So what's the use of following them and turn these into repetitive 1/2? I'd better not intend to do that.

00:08:819 (1) - and onward, I feel like you don't follow the drums as well as you could. For example, 00:08:979 (2) - isn't very important for the melody, so I think that could be a stream/two kick sliders/something that follows the drums. 00:09:298 (4) - this slider goes over a white tick with a clear drum hit, which is a bit weird. 00:09:617 (5) - There's a very important note in the melody on the slider end, I think it should be emphasized with a hit circle instead.
Well, for the slider (2). I probably think kick sliders won't make sense while trying to follow audible rides even though following the background drums, it wouldn't work correctly at least to me. Slider (4) shouldn't be made shorter or harder as long as it basically follows the rides that was going from upbeats to 1/2s a bit unanticipated, so it shouldn't overtake the emphasis just for both tracks. So mainstreaming one track is enough.

00:12:330 (4) - Important note on the slider end that should be emphasized. Maybe something like this?
Ahh sure, I might give that a little good try. Well, changed it's placement on my own way because the structure wouldn't budge too much ofc ;p

00:15:840 (1,2) - I feel like these could be emphasized even more if you increased the distance a little bit.
Well, the distance spacing is quite a little sufficient for the structure according to the SV change. So increasing the distance spacing isn't really necessary for creating some jumps on this one.

00:20:947 (10) - Very clear drum hit on the slider end, should be a hit circle in my opinion.
Almost the same explanation as on 00:05:787 (4) -, but this one's for the vocals. It actually lands a bit in a low density on slider end, It'd take away the good and equal emphasis if I replace this slider into circles. More like "undermapped".

00:26:053 (10) - The guitar and drums are interesting here, you could consider mapping those
Yeah, I was considering this. But since the track's density was totally binding the same substance continuously for the "cooler, coolest, get low..." part. Why shouldn't we do something 'continuous' as well for greater emphasis and a bit consistency? As I planned a backward patterning in order to do that. So yeah, not the best one but still good to go. Especially for structure flowing and playability.

00:30:761 (7,8,9,10,11) - This doesn't follow the drums very well. There is a clear triple in the drums starting at the slider end of 00:30:840 (8) - but you mapped a triple starting at 00:31:160 (9) - instead, which is very confusing. You could have something like this instead:
or just leave out the 00:30:761 (7) - :
Ahh sure, I didn't even think of that before xd But I kept the placements for the spacing and consistency. But still, replaced it to triplets.

00:31:319 (11) - The slider head is not emphasized a lot in the music, but the slider tail is. The slider tail should be a hit circle, you can consider making the slider head into a slider tail as well
You mean, Ctrl + G on 00:31:319 (11,12) - ? I don't really think it's a good idea, after all of the sudden changing rhythm from mainstreaming upbeats jumping into a different comparison. That's really out of bound. I don't think this'll be a big deal over rhythm composition, should've been done than told.

00:34:351 (1,4) - Again, important notes on slider ends. You could fix this by making 00:34:032 (9) - into a repeat slider, make 00:34:032 (9) - single notes and make 00:34:032 (9) - a slider.
Well, right here again. The same two reasons on the other above mods ofc.

00:40:734 (5,6,7) - These should be emphasized a lot more, since it's a lot different from just the vocals before. First I think it should be NC, second I would probably space them out more.
Yeah, gonna space it out only a little because of the triangle form 00:41:372 (7,8,9,1) - I'm intending to do, but won't be adding an NC since the consistency is having one NC in every two tracks unless it's SV change. Considering this as a 'fix'.

00:46:479 (5,6,7) - These drums are different from 00:45:840 (1,2,3,4) - so I think they should be mapped differently.
Well, it's already being mapped differently for the drums starting from 00:46:399 - for sure. Previous notes were only a follow-up by structure and patterning. There won't be a problem though.

The chorus seems good to me


01:26:612 (15) - I would delete this note, since you don't really follow the drums for most of the outro, so it's a bit confusing. Either that, or you could focus a bit more on the drums in the outro in general.
Alright, removed circle.

Even though I did have a lot of small criticisms, I think this is my favourite difficulty of the set. It's an interesting map for an interesting song. Definitely a big fan of this one.

All in all I think this is a very good set, with some very solid and interesting maps. Good luck!
Placeholding...
I've did also some changes on things you haven't mentioned while applying your mod. Thanks btw!
_handholding
I should get to modding this
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
and bubble it pls ok dad /kisses

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Edit: Modders after this, please take a deep look over the diffs that has less mods. Needed just a few of them and this'll be ready for sure.
Luel Roseline


From my queue. Light mod is just simple and short mod.

[Cool!]
CS 5.5? Please set to 5...

01:12:649 (7) - NC here
01:15:202 (5,6,7) - Sampleset to soft at all sliderends.
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
o ye ye sakamoto

The one thing I didn't change is the circle size 5.5, because it'd break the spread and makes Voli's Extra the hardest diff. So it's absolutely a "no" for that.

I applied everything else, good catch btw.
And thank you for checking out the diff /o/
Axon
Sorry for late mod, school has priority over modding queue tho.

Easy

00:10:096 (2) - I don't hear any significant rhythm this note is placed on.

00:12:649 (2) - tbh this slider should start at 00:12:489

00:15:202 (2) - should start on 00:15:042

01:26:372 - very strong sound, do not ignore it.

Normal

00:17:755 (4) - Should probably start at 00:17:596

00:33:713 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - This is really awkward flow.

Hard

00:29:564 (2,3,4,5) - the first time i saw it, i misread it.

MrSergio's Insane

I suggest replacing 00:08:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) with a few reverse arrows, i am an insane player, and i know i can't stream 190 BPM this consistantly. maybe i just suck xd. just take what i said into account.

00:21:106 (1,2,3) - this is a bit hard to read and ruins flow

sorry, but my extra mods suck, they would be useless to you.
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron

Axon wrote:

Sorry for late mod, school has priority over modding queue tho. It's alright~ you've done nothing wrong ;p

Easy

00:10:096 (2) - I don't hear any significant rhythm this note is placed on. At least it lands upon the downbeat, the rhythm composition you've suggested is really god but it skips the bigger note. Nearly mine as well, but I'd like to keep it for easier 1/1 rather than hearing complexity music.

00:12:649 (2) - tbh this slider should start at 00:12:489 - I've never started a single slider on red ticks, ofc it'd be too hard since it's defaulted rhythm is 1/1 based. So I couldn't simply break it though. You can also hear the deep piano in the background that's landing on each downbeat, so yeah.

00:15:202 (2) - should start on 00:15:042 - The same reason as above.

01:26:372 - very strong sound, do not ignore it. Okay, replaced into a slider.

Normal

00:17:755 (4) - Should probably start at 00:17:596 - It'd break a huge consistency with the rhythm I've made previously and next. Like on 00:11:372 - or 00:19:032 (1) - . You could've seen it, so I wouldn't just follow vocals all of the sudden on this part.

00:33:713 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - This is really awkward flow. What makes this symmetry flows really awkward? It wouldn't play that bad imo.

Hard

00:29:564 (2,3,4,5) - the first time i saw it, i misread it. Don't worry, this diff sets AR8. The slider may disappear before circle (5) could show up on gameplay. So readability here shouldn't be a problem.

sorry, but my extra mods suck, they would be useless to you.
Thanks btw~
Venix
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  1. I preffer 521 offset for timing point

Easy

  1. 01:20:308 (2,3) - you can place this better

Normal

  1. Try hit AR4
  2. 00:31:798 (1,2,3,4) - make this flow better
  3. 01:17:755 (4,5) - suggestion

Advanced

  1. 00:12:968 (6,7) - blanket here plz
  2. 01:22:862 - move break stop here

Hard

  1. 00:57:330 (1) - NC
  2. 01:02:436 (7) - ^
  3. 01:07:542 (7) - ^
  4. 01:12:649 (1) - ^

Light Insane

  1. 00:24:298 (2) - suggestion
  2. 00:28:766 (8) - NC
  3. 00:57:968 (1) - ^
  4. 01:12:649 (7) - ^

MrSergio's Insane

  1. 00:38:021 (6,2,3) - blank it

Voli's Extra

  1. 00:02:014 - brake here
  2. 00:39:777 (1,1) - CTRL+G for better balance
  3. 01:13:287 (1) - NC

Cool!

  1. 00:06:904 (1) - NC
  2. 00:22:064 (2,3) - blank it
  3. 00:30:840 (1) - NC
  4. 00:58:287 (1) - ^
  5. 01:02:675 (8) - ^
  6. 01:08:181 (9) - ^
~GL!
Topic Starter
Cerulean Veyron
gonna placehold this for mod response ;p dw will apply them after work soon k

Venix wrote:

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It's correct! \o/
  1. I prefer 521 offset for timing point That's where the drum starts streamings, true. But the current offset indicates downbeats more effective than that. So this shouldn't be implemented.

Easy

  1. 01:20:308 (2,3) - you can place this better Done it on my own way.

Normal

  1. Try hit AR4 Since the song is at high bpm and diff with a few density, I don't really think decreasing AR would be really necessary. I was also gapping between Easy and Advanced by two-rates of AR.
  2. 00:31:798 (1,2,3,4) - make this flow better Right here, I'm actually trying to create a few swirling movements like this one. The thing you were suggesting is really okay, flow isn't bad. And here, It's not "bad" as well after all.
  3. 01:17:755 (4,5) - suggestion Uhmm, I don't know what you're trying to explain the patterning here. But as far as I know, I'm not a fan of linear structures and others like that too. And besides, the aesthetics between (5) and (1) are a bit lacking of interests. I may keep this for now.

Advanced

  1. 00:12:968 (6,7) - blanket here plz I'm probably not leaping into aesthetics on this track, was flowing it as the current based on spacing.
  2. 01:22:862 - move break stop here Alright

Hard

  1. 00:57:330 (1) - NC There's a huge consistency for new combos that is measured in two tracks. If one is added here, it breaks the whole thing. It's not like the music change needs more NCs or the HP drain rate is high. So this counts to all other NC mods as well. Wouldn't want to repeat myself again.
  2. 01:02:436 (7) - ^
  3. 01:07:542 (7) - ^
  4. 01:12:649 (1) - ^

Light Insane

  1. 00:24:298 (2) - suggestion That's... probably some awkward small overlap there. The spacing is very odd by 1.54x, I don't really think this is highly suggested as an expection.
  2. 00:28:766 (8) - NC
  3. 00:57:968 (1) - ^
  4. 01:12:649 (7) - ^

Cool!

  1. 00:06:904 (1) - NC
  2. 00:22:064 (2,3) - blank it Alright.
  3. 00:30:840 (1) - NC
  4. 00:58:287 (1) - ^
  5. 01:02:675 (8) - ^
  6. 01:08:181 (9) - ^
~GL!
Thanks for checking out~
Voli
jawns

jawns wrote:

Voli's Extra:
You could think about following the drums at 00:00:521 (you could use repeat sliders if you don't want to start on a stream), and the guitar between 00:01:160 (1) - and 00:04:989 (1) - , though it might be a bit late to change that now. What you've mapped makes sense as well, I just think mapping the whole intro could be interesting, especially if you did something to differentiate between the lead guitar and the drums. No change necessary though. I see what you mean but I'd much rather keep the intro simple for a clean start and so that you get that ''o damn now we startin'' feel when all the drums kick in etc. - mapping everything in the intro kinda defeats that effect

00:08:819 (1,1) - I would probably add a stream to the end of these sliders to follow the drums. Since the beat snap of those drums in both this part and 00:08:819 (1,1) - is very weird and unintuitive to follow when playing, i prefer following solely the strong sounds in the music to prevent it from becoming an unorganized mess

There are quite a few places where there's an important sound on a slider end, which I think should be emphasized better (like 00:12:649 (1) - 00:15:202 (1) - 00:19:351 (2) - etc) ah, you mean the vocals, right? But it's mapped in a way that the main beat (drums) are always almost clickable while still following the vocals, so sometimes a ''stronger vocal'' might be missed on a slider end but it's not the main thing i've been mapping to. For example you can hear a pitch change + drum on the slider head of 00:15:202 (1) - , thats why it is a slider etc.

00:11:851 (3) - is emphasized a lot more in the music than 00:12:011 (4) - , shouldn't the map reflect that? same thing as above basically

00:22:862 (1) - this beat is very weak in the song, I don't think anything justifies this jump
00:25:415 (1) - ^ yeah I see what you mean but it's a NC (so a new stanza in the music) so it doesn't actually feel like a random jump, its just the start of a new pattern, and if I were to change these the patterns would be completely ruined too :(

00:25:415 (1) - very important note in the song that is mapped to a slider end. Same goes with 00:34:989 (5) - and 00:35:628 (1) - .

01:14:564 (4) - on the slider end again, the beginning of a line in the vocals begin here, so I think it should be emphasized better. Well all of these are basically because of the same reason I explained above, I guess our view on mapping differs quite a bit (I prefer to emphasize the percussion/main beat over anything with clickable notes, while following vocals is secondary to me). Again, I see what you mean but all of these were intentionally done D:

That's all I really have for this map. Not much and I repeat myself a lot, but it looks like a very solid map. Thanks! Sorry for not accepting stuff but yeah it's just a conflicting view on the map/rhythms of the song I suppose

Venix

Venix wrote:

Voli's Extra

  1. 00:02:014 - brake here Sure thing
  2. 00:39:777 (1,1) - CTRL+G for better balance Balance? But that would make the pattern VERY confusing to play.. D:
  3. 01:13:287 (1) - NC I prefer not to since the stream doesn't change any shape whatsoever so there's no real reason to NC this, it's clear as it is

~GL!

Thanks a lot for the mods! Yeah uh, I'm pretty stubborn/picky about the way I mapped this I suppose. Sorry for that! D:
Since the only change is the break at 00:01:179 - , could you add that for me CV?

\o/
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