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Spaghetti
i LOVE you
Ascendance
I love me too.

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2016-08-22 23:11 RLC: hi
2016-08-22 23:14 Ascendance: hi
2016-08-22 23:14 Ascendance: link me ur map.
2016-08-22 23:14 RLC: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/619051 orangentle / Yu_Asahina - HAELEQUIN (Extended ver.) [Another]]
2016-08-22 23:16 RLC: o rigt i should copy the tags from the other ranked mapsetxd
2016-08-22 23:17 Ascendance: ye
2016-08-22 23:17 RLC: ok done
2016-08-22 23:17 Ascendance: [another]
2016-08-22 23:18 RLC: another one.
2016-08-22 23:18 Ascendance: 00:01:421 -
2016-08-22 23:19 Ascendance: pick a volume xd
2016-08-22 23:19 RLC: o yea shit forgot simultaneous red+greenhave to be consistent
2016-08-22 23:19 RLC: ok ay set red to 50
2016-08-22 23:19 Ascendance: 00:09:880 (1) - no plz
2016-08-22 23:20 Ascendance: the spinner kills momentum imo
2016-08-22 23:20 RLC: spinner is cuz of the sound in the music, but more importantly
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: the parts before and after the spinner are rly similar in difficulty
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: so by putting the spinner there in between
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: it makes that less obvious in a way
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: lik
2016-08-22 23:21 Ascendance: but the thing is
2016-08-22 23:21 Ascendance: its inconsistent now
2016-08-22 23:21 Ascendance: 00:22:351 - has the same sound but no spinner
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: how
2016-08-22 23:21 RLC: that's because
2016-08-22 23:22 RLC: the piano overrides the spinner imo
2016-08-22 23:22 RLC: like
2016-08-22 23:22 Ascendance: yeah obviously the piano is more prominent
2016-08-22 23:22 Ascendance: but
2016-08-22 23:22 RLC: when i'm mapping i ask "what layer is the most 'special' here"
2016-08-22 23:22 Ascendance: and at 00:09:880 - the descending sound is more important than the main rhythm ?
2016-08-22 23:23 RLC: it's not so much a matter of "importance" as like, standing out
2016-08-22 23:23 RLC: like
2016-08-22 23:23 RLC: the main rhythm
2016-08-22 23:23 RLC: has repeated itself for 16238971263 measures by that time
2016-08-22 23:23 RLC: but suddenly that sound appears
2016-08-22 23:24 Ascendance: zz alright
2016-08-22 23:24 Ascendance: 00:08:397 (1,2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5913836
2016-08-22 23:24 Ascendance: the current slider pattern is a bit odd to me, this seems more intuitive for flow
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: whj but there's like no difference LO
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: cuz the player just
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: kinda holds those sliders anyway
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: also that overlaps w/ 00:08:048 (2) -
2016-08-22 23:25 Ascendance: ok would u rather me say it looks ugly xd
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: but the overlap isn't bueno ither
2016-08-22 23:25 RLC: gh
2016-08-22 23:26 Ascendance: overlap 00:08:746 (2) - with the head then instead of the tail
2016-08-22 23:28 Ascendance: k watever
2016-08-22 23:28 Ascendance: 00:27:060 (4,5) -
2016-08-22 23:28 Ascendance: kinda weird timeline
2016-08-22 23:29 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5913860 only focus on timeline, but that sounds better to me
2016-08-22 23:29 RLC: i tried to follow both the melod y and the kicks
2016-08-22 23:29 RLC: so lik i didn't want to go through 00:27:234 -
2016-08-22 23:30 Ascendance: make a 1/2 slider at 00:27:060 - ?
2016-08-22 23:31 Ascendance: im just not a fan of 00:27:234 (5) - really
2016-08-22 23:31 Ascendance: doesnt sound right to me
2016-08-22 23:33 Ascendance: hel.o
2016-08-22 23:33 RLC: im
2016-08-22 23:33 RLC: trying stuff
2016-08-22 23:33 Ascendance: o k.
2016-08-22 23:33 RLC: like i still honestly prefer what i have rn :/ but i'm experimenting w/ other things
2016-08-22 23:34 Ascendance: it's just the slider that feels wrong to me, I tried doing other timelines as well and the two i suggested sound best to me but
2016-08-22 23:34 RLC: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5913879
2016-08-22 23:34 RLC: i think i'll do this
2016-08-22 23:35 RLC: because of the piano
2016-08-22 23:35 Ascendance: alright
2016-08-22 23:35 Ascendance: 00:39:008 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-08-22 23:35 Ascendance: this is a no
2016-08-22 23:35 Ascendance: cause the snapping is different but they look the same
2016-08-22 23:35 Ascendance: make a difference in structure between 00:39:443 (3,4) - and 00:39:008 (1,2) -
2016-08-22 23:36 RLC: zzzzzzz
2016-08-22 23:36 Ascendance: z
2016-08-22 23:36 RLC: i'll just move the NC to 00:39:096 (2) -
2016-08-22 23:37 Ascendance: or [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5913892 d] but that works 2
2016-08-22 23:39 Ascendance: 00:58:019 -
2016-08-22 23:39 Ascendance: wanna add a note to this stack 00:58:107 (3,4) -
2016-08-22 23:39 Ascendance: ?
2016-08-22 23:39 Ascendance: or is the gap on purpose
2016-08-22 23:39 Ascendance: could be fine with sliderend leniency
2016-08-22 23:39 RLC: i think adding a note would screw with ppl more than not
2016-08-22 23:40 RLC: o it was a good thing you pointed out 00:39:008 (4) - btw
2016-08-22 23:40 RLC: cuz that was a blue tick NC
2016-08-22 23:40 RLC: would have triggered so many people L:LKOOLOLloLO
2016-08-22 23:40 RLC: fuck,.
2016-08-22 23:40 Ascendance: hell yea.
2016-08-22 23:40 Ascendance: 87.5
2016-08-22 23:41 Ascendance: 01:19:909 (2) -
2016-08-22 23:41 Ascendance: not agreeing with this slider cuz you're missing the sdkfjlghafgkjl
2016-08-22 23:41 Ascendance: u kno what i mean
2016-08-22 23:41 RLC: are you just saying it looks bad or what
2016-08-22 23:41 RLC: LOL
2016-08-22 23:41 RLC: cuz i agree it looks bad and i can change that
2016-08-22 23:41 Ascendance: im saying u could replace it with notes
2016-08-22 23:41 RLC: i do want to use a slider tho
2016-08-22 23:41 RLC: d
2016-08-22 23:41 Ascendance: fuk.
2016-08-22 23:42 Ascendance: what do u wanna do
2016-08-22 23:43 RLC: i'll just keep the slider but make it slightly prettier
2016-08-22 23:43 Ascendance: 01:34:386 (1,2,3) - missing notes on the blue ticks here
2016-08-22 23:44 Ascendance: you did it at 01:32:991 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so idk why not repeat
2016-08-22 23:44 RLC: cuz of the kick
2016-08-22 23:44 RLC: s
2016-08-22 23:44 RLC: also there's 1/6 in that one
2016-08-22 23:44 RLC: so it'd be cancer to use circles
2016-08-22 23:44 RLC: better to just focus on the kicks imo
2016-08-22 23:44 Ascendance: if u wanna still emphasize the kicks just turn 01:34:386 (1,2) - into 1/4 sliders
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: 01:36:566 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - fuck
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: issue with that is
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: 01:34:647 - this is 1/6 not 1/4
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: so i'd have to use a 1/6 slider there
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: but if i used a 1/6 slider there
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: then it would be the same as 01:34:735 (3) -
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: but 01:34:735 (3) - is 1/6 kicks
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: so lik
2016-08-22 23:45 RLC: idk i just want to keep it simple
2016-08-22 23:46 Ascendance: ,
2016-08-22 23:46 Ascendance: klo
2016-08-22 23:46 Ascendance: 01:38:572 (9) - 1/4 slider
2016-08-22 23:47 Ascendance: faint noise on 01:38:659 - plus momentum carries to 01:38:747 (1) -
2016-08-22 23:47 RLC: that's actually y i didn't put anything there
2016-08-22 23:47 RLC: like
2016-08-22 23:47 RLC: those two measures
2016-08-22 23:48 RLC: well
2016-08-22 23:48 RLC: they go from 01:36:305 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - high intensity
2016-08-22 23:48 RLC: 01:38:659 - into a lull
2016-08-22 23:48 RLC: 01:39:096 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - and pick back up into 1/6
2016-08-22 23:48 Ascendance: sounds gay but sur
2016-08-22 23:48 RLC: klo
2016-08-22 23:48 Ascendance: omar
2016-08-22 23:49 RLC: kamal
2016-08-22 23:49 RLC: kamalitous
2016-08-22 23:49 Ascendance: god tier colab
2016-08-22 23:49 Ascendance: 02:13:107 (3,4) - this is
2016-08-22 23:49 Ascendance: fucking meme
2016-08-22 23:50 Ascendance: 02:13:107 (3) - delete 02:13:107 (3) - and move the 02:13:194 (4) - back to the red tick
2016-08-22 23:50 Ascendance: sounds bad
2016-08-22 23:50 RLC: wot
2016-08-22 23:50 RLC: but the melody,,
2016-08-22 23:51 RLC: that whole section is following the melody while occasionally falling back on the kiks
2016-08-22 23:51 Ascendance: everything sounds fine except that circle is being a fucking cuck
2016-08-22 23:51 Ascendance: 02:13:194 (4) - starting on the blue tick sounds like aids
2016-08-22 23:52 RLC: how
2016-08-22 23:52 Ascendance: idk
2016-08-22 23:52 Ascendance: l
2016-08-22 23:53 RLC: holy if that triggers u wait until u get to the section before the kiai
2016-08-22 23:53 RLC: lloolploolLO
2016-08-22 23:53 Ascendance: ,
2016-08-22 23:53 Ascendance: every second i mod this map
2016-08-22 23:53 Ascendance: i drift farther from gods light
2016-08-22 23:54 Ascendance: ok but srsly fix that
2016-08-22 23:54 RLC: wtf
2016-08-22 23:54 RLC: thrs nothign to fix
2016-08-22 23:54 RLC: the melody literlya
2016-08-22 23:54 RLC: is on the lbue tikc
2016-08-22 23:54 Ascendance: it sounds like somthing i HSDIT out
2016-08-22 23:54 Ascendance: hokl yf uck
2016-08-22 23:54 RLC: holy
2016-08-22 23:54 Ascendance: i wnna die.
2016-08-22 23:54 Ascendance: ok leave it
2016-08-22 23:55 RLC: ok odad
2016-08-22 23:55 Ascendance: 02:49:037 (2,1) - tooc los
2016-08-22 23:56 RLC: ok
2016-08-22 23:57 Ascendance: 03:33:426 -
2016-08-22 23:57 Ascendance: what the fuck is al lthis
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: 03:34:909 -
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: WH
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: a
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: t
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: .
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: slider leniency
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: wot
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: can u make the stream more dynamic
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: which one
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: the horizontal one?
2016-08-22 23:58 Ascendance: yea.
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: the horizontal one is supposed to be a throwback meme
2016-08-22 23:58 RLC: to the good old days.
2016-08-22 23:59 RLC: djpop horizontal compressed longstrem
2016-08-22 23:59 RLC: the only problem i had w/ it
2016-08-22 23:59 RLC: was that ppl tended to overstream it but after asking for some playtesting opinions
2016-08-22 23:59 RLC: ppl said it was better compressed
2016-08-23 00:00 Ascendance: djpop in 2016
2016-08-23 00:01 Ascendance: 04:22:351 (1) -
2016-08-23 00:01 Ascendance: should probably be extended 1 more tick
2016-08-23 00:02 RLC: o
2016-08-23 00:02 RLC: those sliders are "buffered" on purpose as some people like to call them
2016-08-23 00:02 Ascendance: im gonna buffer my dick in their ass
2016-08-23 00:02 RLC: to reduce likelyhood of people breaking
2016-08-23 00:02 RLC: and being salty
2016-08-23 00:02 Ascendance: just move them closer together and extend it idk
2016-08-23 00:02 Ascendance: sounds weird
2016-08-23 00:02 Ascendance: after that u can update.
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: but that's like
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: a recurring thing throughout the map
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: so i prolly shouldn't change it
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: like
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: the whole omitting the last repeat
2016-08-23 00:03 RLC: to make larger jumps
2016-08-23 00:03 Ascendance: ,
2016-08-23 00:03 Ascendance: alr
2016-08-23 00:03 Ascendance: ok just go4it
2016-08-23 00:04 RLC: oki it is don
2016-08-23 00:04 Ascendance: im done.

someone please make him fix 02:13:107 (1,2) - thanks.
pishifat
did oko say these were ok

01:43:020 (2) -
04:50:956 (3) -
Topic Starter
RLC
i'll change the first one to be safe; gonna ask about the second
pishifat
ok
Topic Starter
RLC
thank you!

spaghetti incoming; time to get some more playtests in the meanwhile
Ascendance
add SDVX to tags if u have sound voltex xd
Topic Starter
RLC
added

i shot a star for the memes
Spaghetti
I just wanna mention that this is my favorite map ever
irc
2016-08-23 20:18 Spaghetti: leggo
2016-08-23 20:18 RLC: leggo
2016-08-23 20:19 Spaghetti: can i get metadata sourc
2016-08-23 20:22 RLC: same as ranked mania set
2016-08-23 20:22 RLC: lemme check to see if i have album dl'd
2016-08-23 20:22 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 20:23 RLC: i swear there was a website
2016-08-23 20:24 Spaghetti: ill point out other stuff for now
2016-08-23 20:24 RLC: found it
2016-08-23 20:24 RLC: http://klamnop.info/next_001/
2016-08-23 20:24 RLC: https://i.gyazo.com/b70b3759e3777b70627 ... c0dde3.png
2016-08-23 20:25 Spaghetti: aight thanx
2016-08-23 20:31 Spaghetti: power went out
2016-08-23 20:31 Spaghetti: we back
2016-08-23 20:32 RLC: wb
2016-08-23 20:32 Spaghetti: thanks!
2016-08-23 20:35 Spaghetti: move 00:17:990 (3) - to 258|172?
2016-08-23 20:35 Spaghetti: make a nice little triangle with 00:17:990 (3,7,1) -
2016-08-23 20:36 RLC: sure
2016-08-23 20:37 RLC: sure
2016-08-23 20:39 Spaghetti: 00:44:502 (6,7,1) -
2016-08-23 20:39 Spaghetti: move this a bit lower to keep the spacing with 00:43:630 (3,1,2,3) - consistent?
2016-08-23 20:41 RLC: okay
2016-08-23 20:44 Spaghetti: 01:38:572 (9) - maybe add a kickslider here to keep the momentum of this fast racy piano part going?
2016-08-23 20:45 RLC: i left a gap there so that the intensity in those few measures reaches a minimum at that point
2016-08-23 20:45 RLC: like what i was going for was
2016-08-23 20:45 RLC: 01:36:305 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - high intensity
2016-08-23 20:45 RLC: 01:38:659 - lower intensity
2016-08-23 20:45 RLC: building back up into 01:39:793 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
2016-08-23 20:45 Spaghetti: ooo
2016-08-23 20:45 Spaghetti: i c
2016-08-23 20:47 RLC: 01:51:654 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - i'm going to shift this pattern slightly, will show you later after i update
2016-08-23 20:48 Spaghetti: mk
2016-08-23 20:51 Spaghetti: 02:51:479 (1,2) -
2016-08-23 20:51 Spaghetti: any way to move these closer?
2016-08-23 20:51 Spaghetti: buffer time is kinda iffy
2016-08-23 20:52 RLC: they play cool like that
2016-08-23 20:52 Spaghetti: mkay
2016-08-23 20:52 RLC: i dont htink anyone has 100'd those so it's ok
2016-08-23 20:52 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 20:53 RLC: 03:03:514 - gonna buff this slightly to put more emphasis on 03:04:212 (1) -
2016-08-23 20:55 Spaghetti: ok
2016-08-23 20:56 Spaghetti: 03:15:723 (2) - stack this under the tail of 03:15:898 (1) - ?
2016-08-23 20:56 Spaghetti: so its like 02:58:630 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-08-23 20:57 RLC: but it's got that dank double blanket goin on
2016-08-23 20:57 RLC: :Dddgf
2016-08-23 20:57 Spaghetti: up to u lol
2016-08-23 20:57 RLC: gonna afk for a few min cuz of lunch
2016-08-23 20:58 RLC: just list anything else u find
2016-08-23 20:58 RLC: brb
2016-08-23 20:58 Spaghetti: aight
2016-08-23 21:06 RLC: ok back
2016-08-23 21:06 Spaghetti: havent found anything while u were gone!
2016-08-23 21:07 Spaghetti: !11
2016-08-23 21:07 RLC: !!
2016-08-23 21:07 RLC: 04:44:415 (6,7) - gonna move this to the right a little cuz it's triggering me
2016-08-23 21:10 RLC: 03:07:002 (1) - also gonna move this a little
2016-08-23 21:10 RLC: x
2016-08-23 21:10 RLC: d
2016-08-23 21:10 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 21:13 Spaghetti: 00:56:537 (2) - whistle here?
2016-08-23 21:14 RLC: good call
2016-08-23 21:15 Spaghetti: 01:04:909 (4) -
2016-08-23 21:15 Spaghetti: i guess here too
2016-08-23 21:16 RLC: oh there i was just using whistles in the second half of each measure
2016-08-23 21:16 RLC: i wasn't rly following anythign with them
2016-08-23 21:16 RLC: d
2016-08-23 21:17 Spaghetti: o i c
2016-08-23 21:18 RLC: im gonna update the map so i can have someone test
2016-08-23 21:18 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 21:18 Spaghetti: 01:52:874 (2) - whistle here?
2016-08-23 21:19 RLC: ur write
2016-08-23 21:22 Spaghetti: 03:59:677 (1) - finish on this?
2016-08-23 21:25 Spaghetti: 04:47:468 (1) - shouldnt this be on soft additions
2016-08-23 21:26 Spaghetti: 04:50:607 (2) - y is there a snare hit on the second repeat
2016-08-23 21:27 RLC: 04:47:468 - nortmal whistle is intentional
2016-08-23 21:27 Spaghetti: mkay
2016-08-23 21:27 RLC: 04:50:607 - ask yu_asahina not me
2016-08-23 21:27 RLC: lkolololLOOL
2016-08-23 21:27 Spaghetti: LOL
2016-08-23 21:28 Spaghetti: swap nc's with 00:44:677 (1) - 00:44:502 (6) - to fit the pattern better?
2016-08-23 21:30 RLC: i think having the nc on the end of the triple goes with the piano better
2016-08-23 21:30 RLC: that's why i spaced that triple instead of stacking it
2016-08-23 21:30 RLC: so that it would look slightly better with that NCing
2016-08-23 21:30 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 21:32 Spaghetti: 02:11:189 (1) - y is this so randomly pink
2016-08-23 21:32 RLC: i just wanted to use a lot of different colors
2016-08-23 21:32 RLC: in that section
2016-08-23 21:33 Spaghetti: mkay
2016-08-23 21:35 Spaghetti: i think this pattern would look better with the nc at 03:46:770 (1) - removed
2016-08-23 21:36 Spaghetti: and add nc at 03:46:944 (2) -
2016-08-23 21:36 RLC: the streams are 1234 1234 though
2016-08-23 21:36 RLC: and i kinda want the jumps to go 1 2 3 4 rather than 5 1 2 3
2016-08-23 21:36 Spaghetti: o true
2016-08-23 21:37 Spaghetti: maybe swap these nc's 03:51:654 (1,2) - ?
2016-08-23 21:37 RLC: o yea i was thinking about that also
2016-08-23 21:37 RLC: hmm
2016-08-23 21:37 Spaghetti: i think it works better
2016-08-23 21:38 Spaghetti: fits with these nc's 03:52:351 (1,1) -
2016-08-23 21:38 RLC: 04:11:189 (1) -
2016-08-23 21:38 RLC: ok changed this also
2016-08-23 21:38 Spaghetti: i was just gonna point that out LOL
2016-08-23 21:39 RLC: le ~ c o n s i s t e n c y ~
2016-08-23 21:40 Spaghetti: ok im done
2016-08-23 21:40 Spaghetti: update mappu
2016-08-23 21:40 RLC: ok i'll update
2016-08-23 21:40 Spaghetti: lemme know when upd8ed
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: actually i think i'll revert the NC change
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: like
2016-08-23 21:41 Spaghetti: wait
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: it looks better but after i just went through again
2016-08-23 21:41 Spaghetti: wai*
2016-08-23 21:41 Spaghetti: mkay go ahead
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: having the NC on the downbeat somehow makes it feel stronger
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: like the color change
2016-08-23 21:41 RLC: hard to explain
2016-08-23 21:42 Spaghetti: kk
2016-08-23 21:42 RLC: kk updated
2016-08-23 21:42 Spaghetti: mkay
2016-08-23 21:42 Spaghetti: u ready?
2016-08-23 21:43 RLC: i also cleaned up some of the miscellaneous red combo color usage so it fits its role more specifically
2016-08-23 21:43 RLC: yeha
2016-08-23 21:43 RLC: i was born ready,
2016-08-23 21:43 Spaghetti: kk
Len
i wanted to rank it but yeah!

congratz!
Anxient
oh
MY
GOD
orbital gun
fuck my ass dad

also, im tilted
IamKwaN
once again, why no source?
Spaghetti

IamKwaN wrote:

once again, why no source?
read the logs thank

o wait im retarded

lets c what rlc has to say
Topic Starter
RLC
the whole thing with video game sources is to put "original appearance" or w/e.
the short ver first appeared in BMS, then SDVX. I really can't say I agree with putting either as the "source" of the extended ver. (moreover if you've listened to the bms ver, this one sounds very different lol)

i mean i have both games in tags so it's not like I'm hiding/withholding any information?

also I know "someone else did it" isn't good justification but i mean https://osu.ppy.sh/s/272643 so what i've done here is both reasonable (to me) and interally consistent within ranked maps
IamKwaN
If mapper not hiding/withholding any information is a justification, does it mean as long as the original work name is in the tag, creator has the right to choose whether to put it in source or leave the source empty? Then there is no need to have source field, which shouldn't be the case here.

And more importantly, full (or extended) version and short version are originated from the same song. From my comprehension for this song, extended version comes after short version. Similar case to anime full and TV sizes.

The QATs are here to fix mistakes, we don't need incorrect consistency. So let's put previous ranked maps aside.
Topic Starter
RLC
i don't know why i even bothered to argue.

then, all-knowing QATs, fix my "mistakes"--should i put BMS as source because that's the "original" original? or SDVX, because that's what this song is ACTUALLY an extension of? clearly you have the power to decide



edit: sorry for salt
IamKwaN
you can decide too, we don't force this but only the existence of source. personally, i'd prefer first appearance, i.e. BMS

i can rebubble as i have qualified a map today already, poke me if you need me
VINXIS
ranked maps MUST contain source anime
IamKwaN

VINXIS wrote:

ranked maps MUST contain source anime watermelon
#1
pishifat
also #1
ac8129464363
me too lol
Monstrata
not #1
Topic Starter
RLC
len incoming
Len
is this real #1?
pishifat
rlc is the real #1
Ascendance
nominator circlejerk lo
pkk
can just watermelon?
-Visceral-
Am I crazy or are 255,255,255 combo colors unrankable? Coulda sworn I heard about that somewhere idk..
Haruto

Smoothie World wrote:

Am I crazy or are 255,255,255 combo colors unrankable? Coulda sworn I heard about that somewhere idk..
Kinda Agree but, Considering how the BG looks Right now, it doesnt look really bright which could be okay. But seems like a problem when you are setting the background dim to 100% when playing :/.
Surono


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Spaghetti

Smoothie World wrote:

Am I crazy or are 255,255,255 combo colors unrankable? Coulda sworn I heard about that somewhere idk..
I think you mean combo color 0,0,0. (black)

Technically any combo color can be unrankable if it blends too much with other aspects of the playfield (such as other object colors, NC's, or backgrounds), but completely black NC's are always unacceptable as they blend in with bg dim.

I find the white NC's fitting, so I don't think they pose any issues.
Okoratu
you're all not really talking about what the issue with white was. I don't know if anyone of dev attempted to fix it but the issue was as follows:

White combocolor and kiai time together are said to create strobing that is generally unpleasant to read and was described as being able to cause epilepsy or something. I don't really know if the white here does that nor can i check right now. I just know it's still a pain to read with hidden. (and if your numbers are white you won't really have a chance to see them lol)

Is this still a thing? (i'm talking about the default skin ofc.)
ac8129464363
the issue with the pure white combo colours in this case applies to its combined effect with kiai flashing. the circles can become almost blindingly bright as a result, detracting from the experience.
however, the lack of clear guidelines anywhere on something like this at the moment leads me to say that it's up to RLC whether he thinks it needs fixing at the moment, especially as there's only a handful of white objects during the kiai.
Lasse
the white gets painful to look at during the kiai if you're using hitcircles without any transparency (like default) or low transparency

but it's only for a few ms each time the kiai flashes happen and there aren't many white combos in the kiai...
Ascendance
my bad for not checking with default skin lol and the other 5 nominators :^)
Kibbleru
white combo colour is unrankable. careful guys
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RLC

Kibbleru wrote:

white combo colour is unrankable. careful guys
give proof / source because it's not in the RC. as far as i'm concerned, you are parroting bs. and don't just merely link other maps that have been dq'd for it, because if "it's happened in other maps" isn't a valid defense, then it sure as hell isn't a valid prosecution either.

white definitely wasn't straight up "unrankable" before, since many of the old maps I like to play use it--in fact, some people used white precisely because it's so bright to color slowdown sliders. so assuming you aren't spewing bs, what changed? I remember pretender got unranked because of pure black combo color on one circle, but now you're telling me that white isn't okay because it's too bright?

there's like 10 objects total in the kiai that are white; please
Doyak

RLC wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

white combo colour is unrankable. careful guys
give proof / source because it's not in the RC. as far as i'm concerned, you are parroting bs. and don't just merely link other maps that have been dq'd for it, because if "it's happened in other maps" isn't a valid defense, then it sure as hell isn't a valid prosecution either.

white definitely wasn't straight up "unrankable" before, since many of the old maps I like to play use it--in fact, some people used white precisely because it's so bright to color slowdown sliders. so assuming you aren't spewing bs, what changed? I remember pretender got unranked because of pure black combo color on one circle, but now you're telling me that white isn't okay because it's too bright?

there's like 10 objects total in the kiai that are white; please
It's not on RC. But the article "Kiai Time" on the wiki says
"Do not use pure white combo color (255,255,255); it makes Kiai blinding and hurts the eyes."
Karen
it's not written in the RC so i think it‘s supposed to be considered case by case. If the map itself doesn't have the blending issue (or bug?) then it's dumb to forbid a non-existent thing.
I hope this kind of questionable rules can be clarified in the new ranking criteria though.
And i love this map so much <3
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