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It's done updatingStoof wrote:
hi
my friendo toke's userpage is infinitely updating
pls fix http://osuskills.tk/user/Toke
Does the site check the recently played beatmaps that are found in Historical when you refresh the page?
http://puu.sh/qu8Zy/1991812d22.jpg
http://puu.sh/qu8TE/9aa0c7cc9c.png
Dat tenacity.
Ok
EDIT: http://osuskills.tk/user/InfinityPotato/skill/precision I have a 3* map as top for precision ok..
http://puu.sh/qu8TE/9aa0c7cc9c.png
Dat tenacity.
Ok
EDIT: http://osuskills.tk/user/InfinityPotato/skill/precision I have a 3* map as top for precision ok..
Try This doesn't require that much stamina, i'm pretty sure (this is my page btw)
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/675330
No, iirc because there is no guarantee that it will be a top play.gracefu wrote:
Does the site check the recently played beatmaps that are found in Historical when you refresh the page?
WubWoofWolf is broken (again?) 
http://puu.sh/qzk2C/9c7b93816b.png
http://osuskills.tk/user/WubWoofWolf
http://puu.sh/qzk2C/9c7b93816b.png
http://osuskills.tk/user/WubWoofWolf
Sorry for double post, but I think that I've just got quite a nice idea. Nothing important or urgent, but I think it could be a nice thing to intensify competition between players and make exploring all the rankings much more interesting 
What do you think about adding an ability to browse rankings, filtered by players' titles?
For example, we could check a ranking of stamina for only Berserks, to check which berserk in stamina ranking a given player is.
We could browse Precision ranking for Sages only, to see who's the best Sage out there and who in the line a given player is. Or some other skill primary (or not) for an other class (kind of title).
Or even you could allow to mix them, which would be the best! There could be a dropdown menu, that would allow us to select/unselect which titles (or no title) we would want to filter ranking with, like excluding some "balanced" titles or going only through them. Simply, browsing a ranking for a chosen skill, filtered by any titles combination we would want to see. Could be used to any of the 8 (including non-introduced yet reading) skills.
What do you think about it? Aside of implementing it etc., allowing to just filter the results shouldn't be too demanding/resource taking? Please, tell me that you like the idea
What do you think about adding an ability to browse rankings, filtered by players' titles?
For example, we could check a ranking of stamina for only Berserks, to check which berserk in stamina ranking a given player is.
We could browse Precision ranking for Sages only, to see who's the best Sage out there and who in the line a given player is. Or some other skill primary (or not) for an other class (kind of title).
Or even you could allow to mix them, which would be the best! There could be a dropdown menu, that would allow us to select/unselect which titles (or no title) we would want to filter ranking with, like excluding some "balanced" titles or going only through them. Simply, browsing a ranking for a chosen skill, filtered by any titles combination we would want to see. Could be used to any of the 8 (including non-introduced yet reading) skills.
What do you think about it? Aside of implementing it etc., allowing to just filter the results shouldn't be too demanding/resource taking? Please, tell me that you like the idea
About overrated and underrated skills... I made a graph to have an idea of which skills are actually overrated and underrated when compared to the other ones. I compared the ranking and the actual value of the skill, I think this thing may help you tweak the values.
I tried to make the graph screenshot as big as possible, and I tried to make the "Mean" become a straight line, so... yeah, hope this helps you o/
I tried to make the graph screenshot as big as possible, and I tried to make the "Mean" become a straight line, so... yeah, hope this helps you o/
Interesting stuff, though you should lable the axis. I will have to check why accuracy is so underrated, but they generally look pretty ok to me. The resultant curves are almost linear and there is some variance between the skills, which is expected. Tenacity and reaction seem to level off at the end, which might indicate a wall in genaral human ability. That might need to be tweeked, not sure. Agilty is suprisingly linear, but looks a bit steep imo.snyviper wrote:
...
The overall skills are more or less balanced due to how they are calculated. A single high score like on Monstrata's map is not going to influence the overall skill too much even if it's your highest. I think if we look at the top score of each skill, then we will find some weird things.
Stamina vs Tenacity is fun though xD
I think if you multiplied both final agility and reaction value by something like 0.9 or 0.95, it would be a good temporary fix, and agility wouldn't stop being linear
Edit: oh, and Memory seems to be very underrated.... maybe multiply it by 1.2?
I think if you multiplied both final agility and reaction value by something like 0.9 or 0.95, it would be a good temporary fix, and agility wouldn't stop being linear
Edit: oh, and Memory seems to be very underrated.... maybe multiply it by 1.2?
Reaction and high AR reading are completely different to sight reading. Sight reading is playing maps for the first time, not reading high AR maps. And reading high AR maps at the edge of your ability are done by memory and a lot of repetition, the opposite of sight reading, so...
Weird thing with the Memory score: This is my worst FL play and yet it gave me the most Memory score. I basically thought it might be fun if I just forced myself into the 200 combo range basically sightreading (I'm a new FL player,
https://puu.sh/qAQ32/82cecaf4c9.osr here is the replay
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/743036 here is the map
Edit: got an even better score by pure luck.
Note that the circles play has been taking me 100+ retries to try and do, and it got so much less. x.x
What is required for a map, to give exactly zero memory points? For example this 2.76* (with mods) map +HD,HR,DT,FL SS (and top 25 on map =)) doesn't even appear on my Memory page, even after manual input:
Kajiura Yuki - Sis puella magica![Normal]
So I suppose that it's zero points then? For me, there are much easier to sight read-maps for me that grant Memory Points and personally, I remember that the two bursts of the three circles each, at the end of the song above, were confusing me and I needed to remember that these are bursts at the beginning, as I was only seeing beginning note and the rest was starting to fade out quickly, not giving me much time for reaction and reading it.
No problems with that now, but I think that there are songs much easier to sight-read and remembering certain details about bursts and sliders on map above makes it much easier to complete/FC/SS.
What results with this not getting even single point?
Kajiura Yuki - Sis puella magica![Normal]
So I suppose that it's zero points then? For me, there are much easier to sight read-maps for me that grant Memory Points and personally, I remember that the two bursts of the three circles each, at the end of the song above, were confusing me and I needed to remember that these are bursts at the beginning, as I was only seeing beginning note and the rest was starting to fade out quickly, not giving me much time for reaction and reading it.
No problems with that now, but I think that there are songs much easier to sight-read and remembering certain details about bursts and sliders on map above makes it much easier to complete/FC/SS.
What results with this not getting even single point?
Even if it gives you little time to sightread due to quick fade out, according to the algorithm, if the note is visible, then it doesn't count. The memory skill heavily underrates FL+HD plays due to that kind of thing iirc. It gets even more underrated if you throw in the EZ or HR mod depending if the AR is on either extreme imo.Scarlet Evans wrote:
What results with this not getting even single point?
Hey,
I've been talking to someone about spinners, and I found out it's possible to calculate spin speed on maps by checking the score, but only for SS plays (https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Score). Most players who want to compete with other players on spinning play easy maps, SS them, and try to spin as fast as they can. Idk if it's possible to calculate spin speed from non-SS plays, as checking every replay is out of question. (if it's actually possible to calculate spin bonus points without an SS, please tell me)
I would really love to see a spin speed skill on this project, because I love spinners (no shame!), but I also understand this would work only for a certain group of players who have SS'd some maps with spinners, and even though most good scores on spinners are found on those easy maps I mentioned, idk if it would work. So, if anyone has any idea of how to widen the range of plays in which would be possible to calculate the spin speed, please let me know
I'm not too confident on this suggestion, as I know how many people hate spinners and/or think they're not important, so for those, it's just an idea I want this forum to keep track of, as I do think it's important for osu!skills to have a spin skill, but not as restrict as this idea.
I've been talking to someone about spinners, and I found out it's possible to calculate spin speed on maps by checking the score, but only for SS plays (https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Score). Most players who want to compete with other players on spinning play easy maps, SS them, and try to spin as fast as they can. Idk if it's possible to calculate spin speed from non-SS plays, as checking every replay is out of question. (if it's actually possible to calculate spin bonus points without an SS, please tell me)
I would really love to see a spin speed skill on this project, because I love spinners (no shame!), but I also understand this would work only for a certain group of players who have SS'd some maps with spinners, and even though most good scores on spinners are found on those easy maps I mentioned, idk if it would work. So, if anyone has any idea of how to widen the range of plays in which would be possible to calculate the spin speed, please let me know
I'm not too confident on this suggestion, as I know how many people hate spinners and/or think they're not important, so for those, it's just an idea I want this forum to keep track of, as I do think it's important for osu!skills to have a spin skill, but not as restrict as this idea.
Did you try adding them manually?Minamoto-kun wrote:
not all map and scores submitted. i am fc 10 map only for osu!skills(yes,stell to friend's score) and submitted only 4. i am do not know why. check pls
I had a similar issue, but only for tenacity. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/791322 this beatmap, I think it's not possible for this map give me no tenacity points, it's not even on the bottom of the list, because it's completely streamy. It gave me stamina and accuracy points though.
Sometimes there is a delay, I think that I mostly had them, while improving a score, but if your score safely landed into top #1000 on map or is one of your the top PP scores, then sooner or later it should be added.Minamoto-kun wrote:
not all map and scores submitted. i am fc 10 map only for osu!skills(yes,stell to friend's score) and submitted only 4. i am do not know why. check pls
I don't know how exactly it works (how the osu!skills gets non-top score), but it looks like you can also add manually other scores, even the ones being far away from being top at anything. I like to often add different the scores manually. It's not much of work, but it can often actually give a much better view on your skills and their state. Also, it's quite fun to watch how your skill rating rises after
yeah...I'm a dirty skill farmer xDok so can you like explain why precision is the most broken thing known to mankind
I wonder how much the general difficulty of the map and BPM / notes density and other stuff actually matter, when if goes to Precision. Indeed, CS seems to often prevail, but even within the same CS, some "strange" things are happening. Let's take a look at few WubWoofWolf's Precision scores:
http://puu.sh/qRrvl/3bf3e09132.png
YUI - CHE.R.RY [GUM] song is 5.2 stars with mods and have the same CS (CS6+HR=CS7.8) like AKITO - Sakura Kagetsu (Kharl) [Pasonia's Insane], which is 7.67 stars. WubWoofWolf even played the second one better, but it still gives less Precision that YUI's song. Any idea why?
The same with all WWW's Precision scores higher than Sakura! They all are CS6 and they are something that players could consider "easier", but then still grant more points. (+HR everywhere ofc., which makes these all scores I am talking about be CS7.8)
What exactly makes these scores be worth much more than 7.67* "not so easy" Sakura Kagetsu?
http://puu.sh/qRrvl/3bf3e09132.png
YUI - CHE.R.RY [GUM] song is 5.2 stars with mods and have the same CS (CS6+HR=CS7.8) like AKITO - Sakura Kagetsu (Kharl) [Pasonia's Insane], which is 7.67 stars. WubWoofWolf even played the second one better, but it still gives less Precision that YUI's song. Any idea why?
The same with all WWW's Precision scores higher than Sakura! They all are CS6 and they are something that players could consider "easier", but then still grant more points. (+HR everywhere ofc., which makes these all scores I am talking about be CS7.8)
What exactly makes these scores be worth much more than 7.67* "not so easy" Sakura Kagetsu?
O-Moei
Hi !. I guess I have a bad experience to share here due osu!skills calculating
Me is slightly a Flashlight user. I have once FC an Insane diff map using only FL. It only gave me 282 Memory Point. I was disatisfied with it, then I added Hidden to increase its point. After around 63× retrying playing HDFL, I did it !!! I did SS HDFL OMFG me so happy xD . But when I checked the osu!skills again, ...osu!skills didn't count it. It still giving the point of FL only memory point. Oh, how sad I am what happen ?. I can tell it will give me around 541 point tho
That's all my story. It just kinda sad to know youve done a greater performance but osu!skills didnt count it x'D
Me is slightly a Flashlight user. I have once FC an Insane diff map using only FL. It only gave me 282 Memory Point. I was disatisfied with it, then I added Hidden to increase its point. After around 63× retrying playing HDFL, I did it !!! I did SS HDFL OMFG me so happy xD . But when I checked the osu!skills again, ...osu!skills didn't count it. It still giving the point of FL only memory point. Oh, how sad I am
what happen ?. I can tell it will give me around 541 point thoThat's all my story. It just kinda sad to know youve done a greater performance but osu!skills didnt count it x'D
Topic Starter
HiO-Moei wrote:
Hi !. I guess I have a bad experience to share here due osu!skills calculating
Me is slightly a Flashlight user. I have once FC an Insane diff map using only FL. It only gave me 282 Memory Point. I was disatisfied with it, then I added Hidden to increase its point. After around 63× retrying playing HDFL, I did it !!! I did SS HDFL OMFG me so happy xD . But when I checked the osu!skills again, ...osu!skills didn't count it. It still giving the point of FL only memory point. Oh, how sad I am
That's all my story. It just kinda sad to know youve done a greater performance but osu!skills didnt count it x'D
Try manual submit feature when your scores are lost
So, how is the progress on reading skill?
The reaction skill seems nice though.
The reaction skill seems nice though.
I can't manually input a score, it always ends up with me saying it's an invalid map ID. Am I doing something wrong?
Does it happen every time you try?Woey wrote:
I can't manually input a score, it always ends up with me saying it's an invalid map ID. Am I doing something wrong?
Also, make sure that the link you get ID from doesn't point to mapset, but to map, for example:
Wrong --> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/306164
Correct --> https://osu.ppy.sh/b/685380&m=0
If the link have /s/ instead of /b/ , then click on a difficulty to get the desired ID.
Yes, I entered this link https://osu.ppy.sh/b/77606?m=0 and it gives me the same error.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Does it happen every time you try?Woey wrote:
I can't manually input a score, it always ends up with me saying it's an invalid map ID. Am I doing something wrong?
Also, make sure that the link you get ID from doesn't point to mapset, but to map, for example:
Wrong --> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/306164
Correct --> https://osu.ppy.sh/b/685380&m=0
If the link have /s/ instead of /b/ , then click on a difficulty to get the desired ID.
It seems a lot of people are having the same issue with adding manually...
I suggest adding a better explanation on FAQ about it.
The ID of a map is just the numbers combination on the link btw.
Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/814293?m=0
The ID is 814293
I suggest adding a better explanation on FAQ about it.
The ID of a map is just the numbers combination on the link btw.
Example: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/814293?m=0
The ID is 814293
Another solution and kind of safety net, as there will be people making this mistake anyway, would be to make the page trying to recognize, if the link points to a beatmap (regular expressions), then extract ID from a link, if someone was to enter it instead of ID.
Regardless of ID being correct or not, it could give an informational warning after submitting the score, telling an user something like "you should enter beatmap's ID instead of beatmap link". Simply making it accepting beatmap link and completely dropping the warning concept could be good solution too, maybe even a better one.
Regardless of ID being correct or not, it could give an informational warning after submitting the score, telling an user something like "you should enter beatmap's ID instead of beatmap link". Simply making it accepting beatmap link and completely dropping the warning concept could be good solution too, maybe even a better one.
Yes, I entered this link https://osu.ppy.sh/b/77606?m=0 and it gives me the same error.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Does it happen every time you try?Woey wrote:
I can't manually input a score, it always ends up with me saying it's an invalid map ID. Am I doing something wrong?
Also, make sure that the link you get ID from doesn't point to mapset, but to map, for example:Wrong --> https://osu.ppy.sh/s/306164
Correct --> https://osu.ppy.sh/b/685380&m=0
If the link have /s/ instead of /b/ , then click on a difficulty to get the desired ID.
Kao wrote:
Wrong
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/306164
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/685380&m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/685380
/b/685380?m=0
/b/685380
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/77606?m=0
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/77606?m=0
/b/77606?m=0
/b/77606Correct
685380&m=0
685380
77606?m=0
77606
I think Scarlet Evans meant only the Bold part, but for some reason it's hard for some people to understand the ID is the numbers only, so.... yeah, either add it to FAQ or change the "manual score input" option to accept both "numbers only" and "whole link".
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1033882
glitched map, gives 1600 reaction points which should be theoretically impossible
glitched map, gives 1600 reaction points which should be theoretically impossible
Yes I know that. I totally didn't take account cases where you can stay in one spot while the SV is lightspeed fast.Chemistry wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1033882
glitched map, gives 1600 reaction points which should be theoretically impossible
Topic Starter
You can now also copy links to maps when manually submitting scores
This really should have been done loooong ago
This really should have been done loooong ago
Talking about IAHN... I think you should ask for help to experienced mappers like Monstrata when working on the reading skill. Monstrata specially is well known due to his free pp maps, so he should know a lot about angles, distance, and such things