Shiena Nishizawa - The Asterisk War · forum

Meg

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Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-07-25T12:21:30+00:00

to Doyak> fixed!

Del05, thank you for fixing instead me

Del05

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Topic Starter

Del05 2016-07-26T06:25:16+00:00

Hi
Thank you Doyak

Really shock mod for me lol

Doyak wrote:
Sorry, but I have to pop this bubble for the time being.

[General] All fixed
* The gap between Easy and Normal is HORRIBLE. Easy diff is merely a 1/1 spam diff, but Normal diff has sooooooo complicated rhythms using LOTS OF 1/4 beats. I just did confirmation with IamKwaN that she doesn't agree with it too. So here's a way to fix it.
Rename the current Normal diff to Advanced.
Increase CS to 3.5~4
Make a new Normal diff
Otherwise, you'll have to nerf the diff overall greatly and just remove most of the 1/4s, so it's better to just map another diff between them.

[Easy]
* This song is not fast, nor the map is dense, so idk why you used such a high AR for this Easy diff. Newbies would barely have time to react to what's coming next and read them. Maximum is 4 imo. I'd rather use 3. + KwaN told me the same thing too fixed
* 01:02:187 (3) - This is offscreen. Modding Assistant also pointed it out. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681493 fixed
* 01:16:453 (5,1) - This diff doesn't even contain much of 1/2 beats, and suddenly throws this 3/4 beats + 1/2 circle, which is pretty unexpected. Just use a 3/2 slider like 01:03:026 (4) - . fixed

[Normal]
* As I said, this diff is already far away from a proper Normal diff, so rename this to Advanced. fixed
* 00:14:460 (6,7,1) - I don't understand what you're trying to represent here. Just doing http://puu.sh/qcODY/62d531b959.jpg would do a better job for this rhythm without confusion. fixed
* 00:31:977 - Why do you skip this beat? That's the strongest/highest vocal pitch and is a downbeat. fixed
* 01:02:816 (6) - This slider ignores some important beats like 01:03:026 - 01:03:341 - and has notes on red ticks, so I wonder why you didn't use http://puu.sh/qcOYq/aa530c22a9.jpg this beat. fixed

[Celsius' Hard]
* HP5? This diff is pretty dense. fixed

[Hard]
* Consider renaming this to Hyper. The chains of 1/4s are questionable if they deserve the name of Hard. fixed
* 00:34:390 (3,4) - This is not slider-to-something jump. It's a legit spaced 1/4. So stick 3 to 4 instead of 2. fixed
* 00:36:173 (2) - 00:39:530 (2) - You would already know that these aren't same as 00:37:851 (2) - 00:41:208 (2) - . Yes, these are vocal-only sounds. But the whole pattern is following the instruments. So I feel these two notes are out of context rather than 'it represents the vocal sound'. So I think it's better to remove them. FIxed
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - I would avoid 1/8s on a Hard diff. It gives only very short time to safely hit them. You can keep using 3/4 sliders to represent the vocals. Since it became Hyper diff, i think i must map that using 1/8 snap, the sound actually in 1/8 snap, so i tried to map it and use 1/8 snap
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5) - Consider that these are 1/3 drums as Karia used. Melody-wise is fine, but it seemed you want to follow the drums here. fixed

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:05:858 (4,5) - The sliderhead doesn't have that 'clearer' sound while the slidertail does. So why not use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681986 instead? fixed
* 00:11:418 (5,6,1) - This rhythm is questionable. There's no strong sound on 00:11:733 - this blue tick and 00:11:837 - is literally the boundary downbeat that discriminates the after and the before part. Leaving it on a mere slidertail gives awkward transition between these parts. So use this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/qcQJQ/27e717a1fe.jpg fixed
* 00:21:855 - I don't hear any sounds, just use 2 circles? fixed
* 00:25:264 (1) - 00:28:621 (1) - I don't see a good reason to represent the blue tick, while ignoring 00:25:684 - this white tick that contains both 'stronger drum', 'vocals', and a sound that keeps repeating http://puu.sh/qcR8c/f31b43578b.png this. The whole section is focused on the vocals anyway.
* 01:07:012 (3,1) - This spacing is rather confusing with 1/4 beats. It looks more like a soft 1/4 flow but it's actually disconnected as 1/2. You'd better put it away and disconnect the flow so that it actually works as a 1/2. fixed
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're following the drums, this kind of beat doesn't work anymore, as the drum pattern is a bit changed and Karia got it very nicely ( notice that 01:22:327 - has 1/3 drums). See how strong 01:23:166 - this drum and 01:22:956 - 01:23:061 - doesn't contain any drums. fixed

[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (1,1) - I actually hear 1/8 beats individually, not just a DRRRRRR. 1/16 is pretty cruel even though this is an Extra. fixed

Call me back when you fix the bold ones and think it's ready again.

Last edited by Del05 2016-07-26T06:55:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Del05

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Topic Starter

Del05 2016-07-26T06:52:13+00:00

All fixed and updated, for

Doyak wrote:
Hope this is the final check. I'm sorry for not saying all of them at once, but modding several times instead!

[Easy]
* lel, was the OD and HP was like this before? Lower them to around 2.

[Advanced]
* 00:46:663 (4,8) - Stack properly
* 01:00:089 (8,1) - DS too close.

I've discussed with Bakari for some points, and got some concerns about these:
* 01:13:935 (1,2) - This has some polarity issue as the beat snap changes widely, especially that 3/4 gap. So http://puu.sh/qkTTt/ffd7ebff86.jpg this is the only solution I found.
* 00:02:607 - 00:04:285 - 00:05:963 - Bakari also pointed out that these beats aren't worth to have a note while the blue ticks after it is empty and the bass sound actually disappears in the slider. So he suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/BZYBULCN.jpg this instead.
* 00:47:921 (8) - He suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/g3RLy0Ze.jpg cuz he thinks 00:48:761 - should be clickable, but I think the current rhythm works better, so it's your choice.

[Hyper]
* 01:23:900 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary. It looks rather weird and confusing with the previous 1/3s.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:11:628 (6) - Swap the hitsounds on the head and the tail?
* 00:11:837 (7,1) - NC should be on 7 instead of 1
* 00:27:362 (3) - Add a clap? It's a same vocal with others.
* 00:32:816 (2) - Sorry for not saying this in the first place. But here doesn't have any significant beat, while 00:32:712 - 00:32:921 - do. So you can use http://puu.sh/qkUD9/633f30bdfe.jpg or whatever.
* 00:36:593 (3,4) - 00:37:851 (3,4) - I wonder what's your purpose of these whistles are. I mean, why they appear only here and not on 00:39:949 (4) - 00:41:208 (5,6) - ?
* 01:17:607 (2) - Umm I don't see a good reason to ignore 01:17:712 - this enormous drum sound and focus on blue ticks. Would be great if you can try http://puu.sh/qkULg/d28e98741e.jpg

Also time for checking hitsounds~

* 01:16:453 - 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - Using cymbals for all of these is pretty noisy. And because of this you couldn't add it on 01:17:292 - , while it's basically the same sound as 00:08:481 - . So add it here instead, and remove from 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - and leave it only on 01:16:453 - .
* 00:35:334 - 60% volume here feels too loud, especially these whistles sounds stand out too much compared to other parts. Consider lowering it to 40~50%.
* 00:56:313 - On Normal/Advanced, hitsounds here sound really awkward because they don't contain all the drums that the hitsound pattern supposed to be. You'd better try to adjust them a little, so that they actually can represent the vocal properly.
* 01:03:026 - Same
* @Celsius: 00:55:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Are you really going to keep these finishes? Sounds a bit too loud for me, and that's the only part where you 'spammed' finishes, even 00:56:942 - this inside reverse slider. You 'selected' stronger vocals on other parts. Also 01:16:453 - Not adding a finish here kinda ruins the vocal emphasis imo. Also just wondering why 01:27:152 - this line is even here lol

I believe everything else is good to go now.

Last edited by Del05 2016-08-02T10:52:06+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-07-26T16:53:21+00:00

[Normal]
* 00:33:446 (3,4) - WTF DS
* 00:35:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - NC term here is a bit messed up. Why not just use http://puu.sh/qf9B8/2d47cb123a.jpg to keep it same like others?
* 01:08:061 - Ignoring this strong vocal is a bit weird. Also idk why you suddenly decided to represent 01:07:012 - this vocal instead of the downbeat. Just keep doing http://puu.sh/qf9QV/ca92db437b.jpg this.
* 01:10:159 (6) - Would be great if this was 3/4 reverse slider as well, like 00:56:313 (6) - 01:03:026 (5) - 01:16:453 (5) - .

[Advanced]
* I'd really like you to add more 1/4 beats on the kiai. It is supposed to represent the highlight part of the song but it does too much simplification of the rhythms compared to the first and last part atm. Currently, it's just a little denser than Normal, but I think it needs to represent more specific rhythms. Some examples would be using http://puu.sh/qfaGq/4a0b66f636.jpg this kind of rhythm on 00:50:439 - . Of course, I mean the whole kiai should only use some 1/4s and represent the actual strong point of the song. If you look at Celsius' Hard, you'll notice that Advanced is way too much simpler than that.
* 00:34:285 (2) - I forgot to ask you. Could you explain what this note wants to represent? You skipped 00:34:495 - this vocal and the "eeeeeeeek" sound on the background, and especially 00:34:705 - doesn't have anything special. So why not do http://puu.sh/qfanM/0a07b1f0e1.jpg this?
* 00:46:663 (4,5,6,7) - You can make this prettier. Rotate 4 by 10 degree and do the same thing you did, and it will be balanced.
* 01:15:194 (3) - Reduce this to 1/2. This provides unnecessarily hard rhythm.
* 01:21:488 (3,4) - Aah, why isn't this just like 00:13:516 (4,5,6,7) - ?
* 01:22:327 (5,6,7,8) - I think this should be http://puu.sh/qfbbL/9723e04498.jpg or represent the 1/3 drums instead.
Then use AR 6.5, seems better for me.

[Hyper]
* 00:34:495 (4,5,6) - Oh geez, come to think of it, there's no reason to make the blue tick clickable instead of the stronger and intuitive white tick. So would you use http://puu.sh/qfbtU/2af2fa43fa.jpg ?
* 01:23:166 (3) - You can NC this because it's back to 1/4 from 1/3.

[Lecana's Insane]
Uhh Del05, I don't think the way you fixed works properly... please revert this to the old version and let's wait for Lecana to fix the diff.

[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - Oh my god, this scares me soooo much. Reduce the SV please... as it's not a 1/16 now loooool

Ok, hitsounds check postponed to next round again. Fix those and wait for Lecana, then let me recheck this again.

chainpullz

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chainpullz 2016-07-28T03:52:18+00:00

Meg's:
01:22:327 (1) - The drum is on a 1/6 tick so putting a whistle here just sounds like shit
01:22:537 (2) - same ^
01:22:747 (3) - same ^
01:23:061 (2) - same ^

Might have to rethink the hitsounding for last bit because the claps sound weird without the whistles.

Meg

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Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-07-28T10:09:39+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - Oh my god, this scares me soooo much. Reduce the SV please... as it's not a 1/16 now loooool i didn't change SV. please forgive my selfish

chainpullz wrote:
Meg's:
01:22:327 (1) - The drum is on a 1/6 tick so putting a whistle here just sounds like shit i picked up sounds of synthesizer. no changed
01:22:537 (2) - same ^
01:22:747 (3) - same ^
01:23:061 (2) - same ^

Might have to rethink the hitsounding for last bit because the claps sound weird without the whistles.

ty
please update
http://puu.sh/qhibF.zip

Satellite

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Satellite 2016-07-29T19:23:55+00:00

Lecana's Insane -> 00:08:061 (2) - why snap 1/6 ? i think slider end here 00:08:376 - probably missing snapped.

Lecana

253 posts

Joined March 2012

Lecana 2016-07-30T18:21:02+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Sorry, but I have to pop this bubble for the time being.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:05:858 (4,5) - The sliderhead doesn't have that 'clearer' sound while the slidertail does. So why not use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681986 instead?
fixed
* 00:11:418 (5,6,1) - This rhythm is questionable. There's no strong sound on 00:11:733 - this blue tick and 00:11:837 - is literally the boundary downbeat that discriminates the after and the before part. Leaving it on a mere slidertail gives awkward transition between these parts. So use this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/qcQJQ/27e717a1fe.jpg
fixed
* 00:21:855 - I don't hear any sounds, just use 2 circles?
fixed
* 00:25:264 (1) - 00:28:621 (1) - I don't see a good reason to represent the blue tick, while ignoring 00:25:684 - this white tick that contains both 'stronger drum', 'vocals', and a sound that keeps repeating http://puu.sh/qcR8c/f31b43578b.png this. The whole section is focused on the vocals anyway.
fixed
* 01:07:012 (3,1) - This spacing is rather confusing with 1/4 beats. It looks more like a soft 1/4 flow but it's actually disconnected as 1/2. You'd better put it away and disconnect the flow so that it actually works as a 1/2.
fixed
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're following the drums, this kind of beat doesn't work anymore, as the drum pattern is a bit changed and Karia got it very nicely ( notice that 01:22:327 - has 1/3 drums). See how strong 01:23:166 - this drum and 01:22:956 - 01:23:061 - doesn't contain any drums.
sorry,better for me.

thanks mod and sorry late.

Satellite wrote:
Lecana's Insane -> 00:08:061 (2) - why snap 1/6 ? i think slider end here 00:08:376 - probably missing snapped.
あああああああああやらかし！！！fixed

ありがとナス！

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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-31T17:05:59+00:00

Hope this is the final check. I'm sorry for not saying all of them at once, but modding several times instead!

[Easy]
* lel, was the OD and HP was like this before? Lower them to around 2.

[Advanced]
* 00:46:663 (4,8) - Stack properly
* 01:00:089 (8,1) - DS too close.

I've discussed with Bakari for some points, and got some concerns about these:
* 01:13:935 (1,2) - This has some polarity issue as the beat snap changes widely, especially that 3/4 gap. So http://puu.sh/qkTTt/ffd7ebff86.jpg this is the only solution I found.
* 00:02:607 - 00:04:285 - 00:05:963 - Bakari also pointed out that these beats aren't worth to have a note while the blue ticks after it is empty and the bass sound actually disappears in the slider. So he suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/BZYBULCN.jpg this instead.
* 00:47:921 (8) - He suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/g3RLy0Ze.jpg cuz he thinks 00:48:761 - should be clickable, but I think the current rhythm works better, so it's your choice.

[Hyper]
* 01:23:900 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary. It looks rather weird and confusing with the previous 1/3s.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:11:628 (6) - Swap the hitsounds on the head and the tail?
* 00:11:837 (7,1) - NC should be on 7 instead of 1
* 00:27:362 (3) - Add a clap? It's a same vocal with others.
* 00:32:816 (2) - Sorry for not saying this in the first place. But here doesn't have any significant beat, while 00:32:712 - 00:32:921 - do. So you can use http://puu.sh/qkUD9/633f30bdfe.jpg or whatever.
* 00:36:593 (3,4) - 00:37:851 (3,4) - I wonder what's your purpose of these whistles are. I mean, why they appear only here and not on 00:39:949 (4) - 00:41:208 (5,6) - ?
* 01:17:607 (2) - Umm I don't see a good reason to ignore 01:17:712 - this enormous drum sound and focus on blue ticks. Would be great if you can try http://puu.sh/qkULg/d28e98741e.jpg

Also time for checking hitsounds~

* 01:16:453 - 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - Using cymbals for all of these is pretty noisy. And because of this you couldn't add it on 01:17:292 - , while it's basically the same sound as 00:08:481 - . So add it here instead, and remove from 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - and leave it only on 01:16:453 - .
* 00:35:334 - 60% volume here feels too loud, especially these whistles sounds stand out too much compared to other parts. Consider lowering it to 40~50%.
* 00:56:313 - On Normal/Advanced, hitsounds here sound really awkward because they don't contain all the drums that the hitsound pattern supposed to be. You'd better try to adjust them a little, so that they actually can represent the vocal properly.
* 01:03:026 - Same
* @Celsius: 00:55:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Are you really going to keep these finishes? Sounds a bit too loud for me, and that's the only part where you 'spammed' finishes, even 00:56:942 - this inside reverse slider. You 'selected' stronger vocals on other parts. Also 01:16:453 - Not adding a finish here kinda ruins the vocal emphasis imo. Also just wondering why 01:27:152 - this line is even here lol

I believe everything else is good to go now.

Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2016-08-01T14:24:41+00:00

fixed the hitsound there and deleted green line
(delete some finish on the part you mentioned and add finish on 01:16:453 - )

hitsound copier was a mistake

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osu file format v14

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Lecana

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Joined March 2012

Lecana 2016-08-01T14:52:06+00:00

ok.fixed.thanks again :3

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14,319,81698,2,0,P|37:272|46:240,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,126,81907,2,0,P|108:158|115:193,1,70
189,355,82117,2,0,P|201:296|201:278,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,123,82327,5,4,0:0:0:0:
263,190,82432,2,0,P|341:167|409:160,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
481,214,82747,1,8,0:0:0:0:
231,330,82956,1,8,0:0:0:0:
231,330,83061,2,0,P|144:306|86:301,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
19,227,83376,2,0,P|70:209|93:199,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
202,155,83586,2,0,P|188:221|181:244,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,99,83795,1,8,0:0:0:0:
106,99,83900,1,12,0:0:0:0:

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-02T12:15:41+00:00

I thought about this again, and I decided to mod Lecana's diff more thoroughly before pushing this forward.

@Lecana

00:31:348 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Could you explain what these hitsounds represent? The claps are on weird spots and lacks emphasis too. You were emphasizing the vocals, so 00:30:928 - 00:31:558 - 00:33:026 - 00:33:236 - 00:33:446 - need claps, and 00:33:131 - clap should be removed. Also consider adding something(like whistles) on 00:32:607 (3,4) -
00:38:691 (1) - Maybe it's better to remove this finish, there's nothing to emphasize with that loud cymbal sound.
00:42:047 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - The clap sounds here are questionable, as there isn't anything special on 2/4th beat, but you still put claps on these beats. Like Karia's diff, I think not using additional hitsounds here (except those finishes) is better for this part.
00:43:726 (5,1) - 00:58:621 (6,1) - 01:05:124 (1,3) - 00:51:907 (1,2) - 01:09:740 (4,1) - Swap NC?
00:52:117 - 00:56:313 - add clap
01:06:383 - 01:07:222 - Considering what you did on 00:52:956 - 00:53:795 - , these needs finishes too. Also 00:52:956 (6) - needs NC.
01:08:900 - 00:55:474 - Finish consistency
01:17:607 (2,3) - Please use claps on 3's head, and remove it from 2. That's how you hitsounded the whole part. Also this jump might be too big as a circle-to-something 1/4, so mind reducing the spacing?
01:21:907 - Add clap

@Meg
01:10:369 (3) - 00:56:942 (4) - One minor thing, but finish consistency?

Meg

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Meg 2016-08-02T21:22:38+00:00

Doyak wrote:
I thought about this again, and I decided to mod Lecana's diff more thoroughly before pushing this forward.

@Meg
01:10:369 (3) - 00:56:942 (4) - One minor thing, but finish consistency?　ok

thanks

to Del05, please add finish on 01:10:369 (3) -

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-14T16:42:00+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
i found current metadata having no issues, good luck!

http://puu.sh/qAZdK/e679912866.png from http://shiena-nishizawa.com/
http://puu.sh/qAZhj/92e806b27f.png from http://asterisk-war.com/music/
http://puu.sh/pNlk4/373fc310ae.jpg from http://shiena-nishizawa.com
http://puu.sh/pNllE/47c7325419.png from ^

IamKwaN wrote:
yea the official uses the same anime name for second season, only the wording for the opening changes, tv anime 学戦都市アスタリスク new opening 'The Asterisk War' as shown in one of the screenshots included in the previous pm.

Rizia

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Rizia 2016-08-17T18:01:04+00:00

qualified

Agatsu

Beatmap Nominator

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Agatsu 2016-08-17T23:27:25+00:00

wooow

congrats del!

Affirmation

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Affirmation 2016-08-18T02:59:16+00:00

Good job, friend

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2016-08-18T03:41:45+00:00

01:04:284 (2) - Not specifically unrankable, but fixing the snap on the Advanced difficulty would be nice.

@Del: Your hitsounds are literally inaudible, except for the clap. Everything else seems non-existent.
@Lecana: I love your difficulty, it is really well done, in my opinion. Although the hitsounds are barely audible, there must be at least a 20% difference between music-effects to make them noticeable. Sections like 00:57:572 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lack of hitsounding as a whole.
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please?
@Meg: Most of your finishes throughout the Kiai seem randomly placed. Especially the ones on 01:08:900 - they do not even go along with the music itself. You could definitely improve that. Also, 01:02:397 (2,3) - is a pain to play, that spacing and the flow to the left is so hard to catch up

Could you consider something like this or even changing the whole pattern? (Personal opinion).

Personally, I do like the set, but the hitsounding could be heavily improved. Not only in terms of volume, but some hitsounds seem randomly placed and without a certain patterning.
Good luck and play Lecana's difficulty, you will not be disappointed

!

(And yes, Shadow has a point.) Nonetheless, sometimes hearing to more opinions can be good ^^

Last edited by Yuii- 2016-08-18T03:58:29+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Shad0w1and

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Shad0w1and 2016-08-18T03:42:09+00:00

Don't get depressed by the hate votes.
"Don't make a piece that 90% people satisfied with, but make a piece that 70% people hates and 30% love."
Nice job, Nice song.
We need more hard maps that do not offer PP.

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- 2016-08-18T04:25:37+00:00

Senengnya masi bisa ngerank map. Aku mah apa. Udah sirna harapan. wkwkwk

Gratz btw

Lami

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Lami 2016-08-18T05:17:56+00:00

Lecana's Insane

00:09:949 (8,2) - hiding reverse arrow is rankable nowadays?

Kibbleru

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Kibbleru 2016-08-18T06:46:59+00:00

Lami wrote:
Lecana's Insane

00:09:949 (8,2) - hiding reverse arrow is rankable nowadays?

hitburst doesn't actually last long enough to cover.

Yuii- wrote:
01:04:284 (2) - Not specifically unrankable, but fixing the snap on the Advanced difficulty would be nice. I don't get it. what's wrong with this one?

@Del: Your hitsounds are literally inaudible, except for the clap. Everything else seems non-existent. agree, kiai could at least be 70-80%
@Lecana: I love your difficulty, it is really well done, in my opinion. Although the hitsounds are barely audible, there must be at least a 20% difference between music-effects to make them noticeable. Sections like 00:57:572 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lack of hitsounding as a whole. agree here
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please? i think he was trying to be consistent with the previous non-stacked parts
@Meg: Most of your finishes throughout the Kiai seem randomly placed. Especially the ones on 01:08:900 - they do not even go along with the music itself. You could definitely improve that. Also, 01:02:397 (2,3) - is a pain to play, that spacing and the flow to the left is so hard to catch up Could you consider something like this or even changing the whole pattern? (Personal opinion).

Personally, I do like the set, but the hitsounding could be heavily improved. Not only in terms of volume, but some hitsounds seem randomly placed and without a certain patterning.
Good luck and play Lecana's difficulty, you will not be disappointed !

(And yes, Shadow has a point.) Nonetheless, sometimes hearing to more opinions can be good ^^

-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2016-08-18T07:27:54+00:00

Grats kak!! ~

Meg

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Meg 2016-08-18T09:22:21+00:00

oh gratz

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2016-08-18T09:24:04+00:00

Congrats guys!

lolia

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lolia 2016-08-18T17:17:45+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please?As kib said, I wanted to keep prev speed. Plus, I'd played my diff many times but never felt it's weird.

chainpullz

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chainpullz 2016-08-19T05:47:36+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
Don't get depressed by the hate votes.
"Don't make a piece that 90% people satisfied with, but make a piece that 70% people hates and 30% love."
Nice job, Nice song.
We need more interesting maps.

^This (though difficulty & pp are 100% irrelevant in the end)

Low bpm doesn't get enough attention imo. In general the lower the bpm the more expressive/technical a song tends to be which really opens up all sorts of possibilities for creativity when it comes to mapping. It's just sad that people fixate so much numbers be it pp or star difficulty.

People fixate on things like "I can play most X.X* maps but I can't play this one it must be bad and/or I don't like it because of that."

Similarly they hate patterns that replace spacing with harsh flow because "I can play large jumps but I cant even hit these tiny ones this mapping sucks" failing to realize that such patterns are meant to replace large spacing, not to be easier than it.

It honestly feels like people are starting to forget that osu is more than just an aim game these days tbh. In mania people don't hesitate to do things like map 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8, 1/12 all in the same chart if it's in the music even if it makes the chart less playable. Harder to read isn't always a bad thing like everyone tends to make it out to be these days. In the end most music has structure and it's not really up to the mapper to hold the player's hands if they can't hear it.

(tbh idk why I'm posting this and this isn't really related to the map but if it inspires even 1 more interesting map mission accomplished I guess?)

Del05

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Topic Starter

Del05 2016-08-20T13:03:54+00:00

Wow many post after qualified xD (i dont when it is qualified)
i still busy with my university event, but i will replied yuii post as soon as possible

Surono

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Surono 2016-08-20T21:09:21+00:00

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:
Senengnya masi bisa ngerank map. Aku mah apa. Udah sirna harapan. wkwkwk

Gratz btw

ngopo iki, ngebaper.

pindah bedug aja
ez, just "don kat done" :^)

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- 2016-08-21T08:19:06+00:00

Surono wrote:
ngopo iki, ngebaper.

pindah bedug aja
ez, just "don kat done" :^)

Wkwkwk. Angel pak ngemape.mbok Beduge jebol koh lah :'v

Surono

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Surono 2016-08-21T09:04:07+00:00

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:
Wkwkwk. Angel pak ngemape.mbok Beduge jebol koh lah :'v

ki lho kwkwk, wingi aku pamer ngebedug pas adzan berkumandang. jebol jebulane *sakjane keluwihan Spirito desu* wadohhhhhh wkwkkwkw xd

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2016-08-22T16:05:39+00:00

I agree with Yuii- that the hitsounding could be improved here. The chime/jingle hitwhistles (SC:3, SC:99) aren't too bad, as they're used in relatively calm parts of the song, but the kick drum hitwhistle (SC:1) plays throughout and is practically inaudible during the rest of the map - especially in the kiai. As such, it doesn't provide anywhere near enough feedback to the player in these sections.

Aside from that, there was a point for Meg's diff that was not yet responded to - please address this also before pushing the set back towards qualification.

Good luck!

Meg

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Meg 2016-08-23T04:37:17+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Aside from that, there was a point for Meg's diff that was not yet responded to - please address this also before pushing the set back towards qualification.

wtf should i reply all with quote?
of course i have checked all mods and wrote fixing points.
also appreciated to them

if need it, i'll reply them.
but... it's minor thing imo xd

Doyak

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Doyak 2016-08-24T13:56:22+00:00

I admit that the volume can be adjusted. But could someone explain how to actually improve the hitsound patterns?

Yuii- wrote:
Personally, I do like the set, but the hitsounding could be heavily improved. Not only in terms of volume, but some hitsounds seem randomly placed and without a certain patterning.

Lecana's diff has a bit random hitsound patterns but it's like the mapper's feeling on the song. I don't really agree with it actually, but yeah the mapper can consider adding logics on every hitsounds too.
But I don't get what's wrong with other diffs' hitsounds. The song itself is not that consistent so it can be varied from parts to parts, emphasizing what's strongest on each of them. It already seems pretty consistent for me. If you can provide some examples, we can discuss them I think.

Del05

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Topic Starter

Del05 2016-08-25T11:09:43+00:00

I agree with doyak

And if you mean by volume i have make it louder as like said in yuii mod

Yahuri

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Yahuri 2016-08-26T09:56:05+00:00

wew hitsounding

01:44 *Del05 is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1000740 Shiena Nishizawa - The Asterisk War]
01:45 Yahuri: ill start on one of the lower diffs first Dx
01:45 Del05: um... jbh said
01:45 Del05: sure

01:45 Del05: about smth consistensy and volume xD
01:45 Yahuri: uh
01:45 Yahuri: i aint gonna check your entire mapset if thats what u were asking for
01:45 Del05: sure

01:46 Del05: just check my diff only
01:46 Del05: karia, lecana, and meg diff is okay
01:46 Del05: are okay
01:46 Yahuri: ok
01:46 Del05: thank you

01:47 Del05: ah.. celcius diff is fine too no need to check it
01:47 Yahuri: is the normal whistle for piano?
01:47 Del05: for the ting sound at the beginning i think
01:48 Yahuri: 00:04:075 - there might be the sound here but its significantly softer than others, so maybe remove the whistle
01:49 Del05: removed
01:49 Yahuri: 00:04:285 - whistle here but you didnt map that
01:50 Del05: lol yeah xD
01:50 Del05: lemme change it then
01:51 Yahuri: 00:09:215 - remove clap and add whistle
01:51 Yahuri: 00:09:425 - add clap
01:52 Del05: but it is alreayd whistle
01:52 Del05: it is for advanced right ?
01:52 Yahuri: 00:10:893 - remove clap and add whistle
01:52 Yahuri: umm
01:52 Yahuri: its says clap for me
01:52 Yahuri: did you make changes?
01:52 Del05: i think let try like this
01:52 Del05: you can check my hyper diff only
01:52 Del05: i will copy the HS
01:52 Yahuri: lol
01:52 Yahuri: ok
01:53 Del05: sorry xD
01:53 Yahuri: its k
01:53 Yahuri: i dont have anything more fun to do

01:53 Del05: it is easier to check 1 diff and copy it lol
01:53 Del05: lol
01:53 Yahuri: hitsound consistency is a pain :c
01:53 Del05: yeah xD
01:54 Yahuri: 00:09:215 - remove clap and add whistle
01:55 Del05: fix
01:55 Yahuri: 00:09:425 - remove whistle and add clap
01:56 Yahuri: 00:10:893 - remove clap add whistle
01:56 Del05: fixed
01:57 Yahuri: remove clap add whistle
01:57 Yahuri: add clap remove whistle 00:12:781 -
01:57 Del05: fix
01:57 Yahuri: 00:12:572 - remove clap add whistle
01:58 Del05: fixed
01:58 Yahuri: same thing i said about every single other slider XD 00:14:250 (4) -
01:58 Del05: yup
01:58 Del05: already fix all of them actually lol xD
01:59 Yahuri: 00:15:194 (1) - remove finish
01:59 Del05: fix
01:59 Yahuri: remove whistle add clap 00:16:138 -
02:00 Del05: fix
02:00 Yahuri: same fix as the first sliders 00:17:607 (4) -
02:01 Del05: fixed
02:01 Yahuri: 00:18:656 - remove clap
02:01 Del05: remove clap ?? it will different with the prev part
02:02 Yahuri: the thing is
02:02 Yahuri: theres nothing there
02:02 Yahuri: except whatever that other background thing is
02:02 Del05: um.. it is true xD
02:02 Del05: the part is different
02:02 Del05: okay fixed
02:03 Yahuri: 00:19:495 - the pitch is a bit higher than usual so you could put a clap maybe
02:03 Yahuri: check the GD diffs tho
02:04 Yahuri: 00:20:229 (1) - removes finish
02:04 Del05: okay
02:04 Del05: fixed
02:04 Del05: i will check them
02:04 Yahuri: 00:20:858 - add clap
02:05 Del05: `add clap and remove whistle ??
02:05 Yahuri: theres a lower pitch in there i think
02:05 Yahuri: it might be the bass
02:05 Del05: oh so use both of them
02:05 Del05: okay
02:06 Yahuri: remove whistle add clap 00:20:963 (4)
02:06 Yahuri: 00:21:076 - remove clap add whistle
02:07 Yahuri: 00:21:278 - change this to whatever you were using for the non-hitsounded stuff
02:08 Del05: okay
02:09 Yahuri: 00:22:851 - add clap
02:09 Yahuri: remove clap add whistle 00:22:956 (4) -
02:10 Yahuri: 00:24:635 (4) - ^
02:11 Del05: fixed
02:11 Yahuri: 00:25:998 - remove hitsounds
02:11 Yahuri: 00:26:208 - add clap
02:12 Yahuri: 00:26:313 (4) - remove clap add whistle
02:12 Del05: fixed
02:13 Yahuri: add clap remove whistle 00:27:886 -
02:14 Del05: fixed
02:14 Yahuri: 00:28:411 - drum-hitclap would work good here i think
02:14 Del05: `fixed
02:15 Yahuri: add clap, not sure if theres bass there tho 00:28:516 -
02:15 Del05: soft clap ??
02:15 Del05: because i use dram clap at there
02:16 Yahuri: uhh
02:16 Yahuri: it says auto whistle
02:17 Del05: huh ??
02:17 Del05: why it can be different xD
02:17 Del05: nevermind
02:17 Del05: change to soft clap
02:17 Yahuri: 00:28:935 - thats the singer singing right?
02:18 Yahuri: if its not then add finish
02:18 Del05: um.. i can hear bass sound
02:18 Del05: a little
02:18 Yahuri: yeah, keep the whistle there
02:19 Del05: okay
02:19 Yahuri: 00:29:565 - add clap
02:20 Del05: fixed
02:20 Yahuri: 00:29:670 - add whistle remove clap
02:21 Yahuri: 00:31:243 - add clap
02:22 Del05: fixed
02:22 Yahuri: remove clap add whistle 00:31:348 (4) - it also sounds like theres a default normal-hitwhistle there too XD
02:23 Del05: i only use normal hitwhistle at the beggining
02:23 Yahuri: i said a default version
02:23 Yahuri:

02:23 Del05: `oh lol
02:23 Del05: xD
02:23 Del05: not read it
02:23 Del05: better use soft whistle
02:23 Yahuri: 00:31:768 (6) - you can change both ends of this slider to drum-clap
02:24 Del05: fixed
02:24 Yahuri: 00:32:082 - remove clap add whistle
02:25 Yahuri: 00:32:921 - add clap (and whistle?)
02:26 Del05: better only clap i think
02:26 Yahuri: 00:34:390 (3) - add clap
02:26 Del05: lets skip the slow and soft part
02:26 Del05: now is kiai time lol
02:28 Yahuri: 00:51:383 - add clap remove whistle
02:29 Yahuri: 00:52:851 - remove clap add whistle
02:29 Yahuri: 00:53:061 - add clap (remove whistle?)
02:30 Yahuri: 00:54:530 - add whistle remove clap
02:30 Yahuri: 00:54:740 - add clap remove whistle
02:31 Yahuri: 00:56:208 - remove clap add whistle
02:32 Yahuri: 00:56:628 - remove clap add whistle
02:32 Yahuri: 00:56:837 - add clap
02:32 Yahuri: 00:57:152 - remove finish
02:33 Yahuri: 00:58:096 - add clap
02:34 Yahuri: 00:59:565 - remove clap add whistle
02:34 Yahuri: 00:59:774 - add clap
02:34 Yahuri: 01:00:299 - remove whistle
02:35 Yahuri: 01:00:509 - remove finish
02:35 Yahuri: 01:01:558 - remove whistle
02:36 Yahuri: 01:01:663 - remove clap
02:37 Yahuri: 01:02:816 - remove whistle add clap
02:37 Yahuri: 01:03:026 - remove clap add whistle
02:38 Del05: wuah xD just went to toilet
02:38 Del05: and so many alreayd xD
02:38 Yahuri: gg
02:40 Yahuri: also if i said to remove the midpoint finish 00:57:152 - you can probs leave it in cuz it fits Dx
02:41 Yahuri: 01:04:809 - add clap
02:41 Yahuri: 01:06:488 - remove whistle add clap
02:42 Yahuri: 01:08:166 - add clap
02:42 Del05: fixed
02:43 Yahuri: 01:09:530 - remove whistle
02:44 Del05: fix
02:44 Yahuri: 01:10:264 - add whistle
02:44 Yahuri: 01:11:523 - add clap
02:45 Del05: fix
02:46 Yahuri: 01:15:823 - remove clap add whistle
02:47 Yahuri: ^or add some drum thing
02:47 Yahuri: 01:15:719 - could do drum thing here too
02:48 Yahuri: 01:17:397 - remove clap
02:49 Del05: fixed
02:49 Yahuri: 01:18:236 - add clap
02:49 Yahuri: add whistle
02:49 Yahuri: 01:18:760 (7) -
02:50 Del05: fix
02:50 Yahuri: 01:19:075 - remove clap
02:50 Yahuri: 01:19:914 - add clap remove whistle
02:50 Del05: fix
02:51 Yahuri: 01:20:754 - remove clap
02:52 Yahuri: 01:23:166 (1) - add whistle?
02:52 Yahuri: wew done
02:53 Del05: wew
02:53 Del05: done
02:53 Del05: send this forum for pp
02:53 Yahuri: for pp
02:53 Del05: and QAT know i have change my HS
02:53 Yahuri: OF COURSE!!
02:53 Del05: lol xD
02:53 Del05: lmao
02:53 Del05: for kudos

lemme relisten on 100% playback rate after you update though lol (cuz i sure didnt do that while modding)

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2016-09-13T14:12:24+00:00

Okay, so... reply to the thingy in my previous mod before moving on!

Lecana

Did I already tell you about how cool your mapping is to my eyes?

00:14:565 (5,6) - Heavy inconsistent rhythm here. Compared to everything else, you are just ignoring the music completely and placing the important beats on random spots of the sliders. What if you just make three slider like on every other pattern in the intro? Such as 00:16:243 (5,6,7) - or 00:17:921 (5,6,7) - or 00:19:600 (5,6,7) - . That's what I meant by inconsistent

Karia

00:04:495 (6) - Maybe you could replace this slider. It doesn't make too much sense to have the same object than (5) even when the sounds are completely different. What about adding a repeat to 00:04:285 (5) - and leaving 00:04:600 - with nothing instead?
00:45:404 (8) - Should the NC be there instead?
00:50:019 (1) - Aaaand, remove it there.
01:17:292 (1,2) - I'm very unsure of your rhythm choice here. There's really nothing landing on 01:17:397 - to place a clickable object. Instead, you can try using three sliders for this section right here. So, you turn 01:17:292 (1) - into a 1/4 slider, and reduce (2) to another 1/4 slider. You also want to remove the hitsound on 01:17:397 - !

Meg

Please, get rid of a lot of unnecessary Finish hitsounds. There's so many of them that could be either replaced or completely removed. Besides check 00:55:474 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - , check the ones I am listing below.

00:18:131 (3) - NC here!
00:41:628 (1,2,1) - Why the spacing of the unemphasized 1/2 pattern is higher than (2,1) which is even emphasized by your finish hitsound? Doesn't make too much sense to me, and it actually makes 00:41:628 (1,2) - look like a 1/1 pattern.
00:43:726 (1,2) - Spacing here looks a bit too much compared to everything else in the section.
01:05:124 (1,2,3) - You could actually space these out, it's mostly a suggestion, but goes better with the vocals. By space them out I didn't specifically mean all of them, but (2,3). So, you stack (1,2) since there's barely an audible beat on (2) and then you emphasize vocals on (3). What do you think about http://puu.sh/r9NXM/bf01b25620.jpg ?
01:09:215 (2,3,4,5) - Hitsounding: Remove Finish on (2), keep Whistle. Remove Finish on (3)'s tail, it's unnecessary to have a hitsound landing there. This one is personal: Replace (4)'s Clap for a Whistle.
01:10:369 (3) - You could also replace that Finish for something else, to be honest.
01:15:404 (4,5) - Symmetry here may not work actually. (5) is represented with a complete different sound than (4). Symmetry better fits when a sound is rather repetitive. You could ACTUALLY replace (5) with 2 different circles, it'd be way better.
01:23:900 (4) - Completely personal opinion, but moving it further and NC'ing can work, and it'd fit the song!

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@Del05: Don't forget to tell mappers to reply to my previous mod. And also fix the unsnapped thingy on Advanced!

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lolia

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lolia 2016-09-14T02:55:05+00:00

Karia wrote:
Yuii- wrote:
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please?As kib said, I wanted to keep prev speed. Plus, I'd played my diff many times but never felt it's weird.

Yuii- wrote:
Karia

00:04:495 (6) - Maybe you could replace this slider. It doesn't make too much sense to have the same object than (5) even when the sounds are completely different. What about adding a repeat to 00:04:285 (5) - and leaving 00:04:600 - with nothing instead? Hmm? I followed 1/4 beats in the music. They are all same sounds;
00:45:404 (8) - Should the NC be there instead? Same combo-color is better in this stream
00:50:019 (1) - Aaaand, remove it there. 00:49:180 (1,1,1) - These three NCs are for vocal and SV. So I want to keep this NC..
01:17:292 (1,2) - I'm very unsure of your rhythm choice here. There's really nothing landing on 01:17:397 - to place a clickable object. Instead, you can try using three sliders for this section right here. So, you turn 01:17:292 (1) - into a 1/4 slider, and reduce (2) to another 1/4 slider. You also want to remove the hitsound on 01:17:397 - ! I can't understand why you couldn't catch this rhythm. The rhythm is same as 00:08:481 (1,2) - , 00:11:837 (1,2) - , 00:18:551 (1,2) - and 01:20:649 (1,2) - which have same sounds. Also, the clicking-timing is same (00:08:481 (1,2) - , 00:10:159 (1,2) - , 00:11:837 (1,2) - , etc.)

Thanks for modding!

Yuii-

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Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-09-14T03:09:57+00:00

Karia wrote:
Yuii- wrote:
Karia

00:04:495 (6) - Maybe you could replace this slider. It doesn't make too much sense to have the same object than (5) even when the sounds are completely different. What about adding a repeat to 00:04:285 (5) - and leaving 00:04:600 - with nothing instead? Hmm? I followed 1/4 beats in the music. They are all same sounds; - Pardon? (6) has a complete different sound. (5) is supported with the holdable guitar sound in the background music (bgm) and (6) has nothing holdable on it. They are just two different variations, there's nothing similar to them, hence why it should be changed.
00:45:404 (8) - Should the NC be there instead? Same combo-color is better in this stream - What is that supposed to mean? There's no stream at all.
00:50:019 (1) - Aaaand, remove it there. 00:49:180 (1,1,1) - These three NCs are for vocal and SV. So I want to keep this NC.. - I completely agree with the NC being placed 00:49:600 (1) - as it can represent a different sound/rhythm in the bgm. By NC'ing 00:49:600 (1) - you are also making all these repeats more intuitive. Although, even if you NC 00:50:019 (1) - it'd make no sense at all, in fact it'd just make it worse. Why so? NC'ing over an identical object will most likely tell the player this is a complete different object. Which is not true, it has the same rhythmical meaning (especially when 00:49:600 (1,1) - are in the SAME phrase musical meaning) and they last the same amount of time.
01:17:292 (1,2) - I'm very unsure of your rhythm choice here. There's really nothing landing on 01:17:397 - to place a clickable object. Instead, you can try using three sliders for this section right here. So, you turn 01:17:292 (1) - into a 1/4 slider, and reduce (2) to another 1/4 slider. You also want to remove the hitsound on 01:17:397 - ! I can't understand why you couldn't catch this rhythm. The rhythm is same as 00:08:481 (1,2) - , 00:11:837 (1,2) - , 00:18:551 (1,2) - and 01:20:649 (1,2) - which have same sounds. Also, the clicking-timing is same (00:08:481 (1,2) - , 00:10:159 (1,2) - , 00:11:837 (1,2) - , etc.) - That's not true. If you wanna use consistency here, I'm fine with it but don't say the rhythm is the same because it's inaccurate. 01:17:397 - and 01:17:502 - shouldn't be mapped/represented on the same object.
Thanks for modding!

Meg

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Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-09-14T03:51:13+00:00

First, I think finishes can be one of expression of mapping. So overuse finish is not bad imo.
In fact, I've seen many maps that overuse finishes. they have good expression.
Also, I don't think these finishes doesn't match in this music, I don't want to change.

Yuii- wrote:
@Meg: Most of your finishes throughout the Kiai seem randomly placed. Especially the ones on 01:08:900 - they do not even go along with the music itself. You could definitely improve that. no changed Also, 01:02:397 (2,3) - is a pain to play, that spacing and the flow to the left is so hard to catch up Could you consider something like this or even changing the whole pattern? your idea is not good flow imo. and I think my pattern is not bad. no changed(Personal opinion).

Yuii- wrote:
Meg

Please, get rid of a lot of unnecessary Finish hitsounds. There's so many of them that could be either replaced or completely removed. Besides check 00:55:474 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - , check the ones I am listing below. ^

00:18:131 (3) - NC here! ok
00:41:628 (1,2,1) - Why the spacing of the unemphasized 1/2 pattern is higher than (2,1) which is even emphasized by your finish hitsound? Doesn't make too much sense to me, and it actually makes 00:41:628 (1,2) - look like a 1/1 pattern. ok
00:43:726 (1,2) - Spacing here looks a bit too much compared to everything else in the section. so minor thing. no changed
01:05:124 (1,2,3) - You could actually space these out, it's mostly a suggestion, but goes better with the vocals. By space them out I didn't specifically mean all of them, but (2,3). So, you stack (1,2) since there's barely an audible beat on (2) and then you emphasize vocals on (3). What do you think about http://puu.sh/r9NXM/bf01b25620.jpg ? ok
01:09:215 (2,3,4,5) - Hitsounding: Remove Finish on (2), keep Whistle. Remove Finish on (3)'s tail, it's unnecessary to have a hitsound landing there. This one is personal: Replace (4)'s Clap for a Whistle. fixed a bit
01:10:369 (3) - You could also replace that Finish for something else, to be honest. delete this finish
01:15:404 (4,5) - Symmetry here may not work actually. (5) is represented with a complete different sound than (4). Symmetry better fits when a sound is rather repetitive. You could ACTUALLY replace (5) with 2 different circles, it'd be way better. But using other shape will become bad appearance. no changed
01:23:900 (4) - Completely personal opinion, but moving it further and NC'ing can work, and it'd fit the song! I don't think so. no changed
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Sorry for my selfish about finishes.
And thank you for modding.
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