Shiena Nishizawa - The Asterisk War · forum

lolia

Joined May 2012

lolia 2016-07-03T15:45:15+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Karia's Insane]
01:22:327 (1,2) - why don't continue use 1/4 like other diff? Because following drum sounds feels better to me.

Thanks for modding!

SPOILER

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: The Asterisk War.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 48970
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 32
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:The Asterisk War
TitleUnicode:The Asterisk War
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:Del05
Version:Karia's Insane
Source:学戦都市アスタリスク
Tags:the academy city on the water gakusen toshi image-- meg Lecana Karia CelsiusLK tv size opening
BeatmapID:967311
BeatmapSetID:440397

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7.2
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Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2016-07-03T16:30:49+00:00

. alright
@del05 delete 01:24:005 (5) - for me pls , it's just one note lol

Del05

482 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Del05 2016-07-07T09:28:38+00:00

@CelsiusLK and Karia

Updated

Wait for Lecana

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-09T06:55:38+00:00

Oh I'll come here here after Rizia rechecks.

Lecana

253 posts

Joined March 2012

Lecana 2016-07-09T18:38:36+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Lecana's Insane]
00:14:565 (5,6) - for me, rhythm here should be like this
SPOILER
umm,this rhythm fit for me.
00:34:914 (1,2,3) - jumps looks extreme for a insane
change
01:10:998 (1) - weird slider
change

thanks mod.
and,sorry really late

SPOILER

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TitleUnicode:The Asterisk War
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:Del05
Version:Lecana's Insane
Source:学戦都市アスタリスク
Tags:the academy city on the water gakusen toshi image-- meg Lecana Karia CelsiusLK tv size opening
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217,243,67642,2,0,P|238:277|263:292,1,70
377,352,67851,2,0,P|369:303|354:282,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
237,150,68061,2,0,P|159:163|117:215,1,140,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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301,175,68691,2,0,P|249:152|225:149,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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301,175,69740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
163,295,69949,5,8,0:0:0:0:
163,295,70054,2,0,P|238:269|316:259,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
409,363,70369,2,0,P|374:357|343:343,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,175,70579,1,4,0:0:0:0:
232,175,70998,6,0,P|262:119|186:122,1,157.500006008148,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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165,364,71837,1,8,0:0:0:0:
383,222,72047,2,0,P|332:231|285:261,1,105.000004005432,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,178,72467,2,0,P|200:201|207:209,2,52.5000020027161,8|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
61,241,72886,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,334,73096,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,338,73306,1,8,0:0:0:0:
350,225,73516,2,0,P|378:177|380:167,1,52.5000020027161
289,50,73726,6,0,B|259:106|290:163|290:163|257:204|279:253,1,210,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,361,74145,2,0,P|130:334|117:303,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
166,217,74355,2,0,P|192:190|205:159,1,70
130,57,74565,2,0,P|52:56|9:168,1,210,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
107,257,74984,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,160,75089,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,160,75194,2,0,P|246:190|256:213,1,70
315,347,75404,2,0,P|255:347|217:284,1,140,12|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,85,75823,5,10,0:0:0:0:
392,85,76033,1,10,0:0:0:0:
392,85,76243,1,10,0:0:0:0:
392,85,76453,2,0,P|309:52|237:88,1,167.999994873047,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,296,76768,2,0,P|238:260|263:184,1,167.999994873047,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
143,123,77082,1,8,0:0:0:0:
143,123,77292,6,0,P|173:78|175:52,2,70,12|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,194,77607,2,0,P|274:279|271:325,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
111,342,77921,2,0,P|141:290|161:267,1,70
230,194,78131,2,0,P|276:231|303:246,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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503,196,78551,2,0,P|457:180|424:170,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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75,131,78970,5,8,0:0:0:0:
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464,87,80649,5,6,0:0:0:0:
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180,123,82327,5,4,0:0:0:0:
263,190,82432,2,0,P|341:167|409:160,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
481,214,82747,1,8,0:0:0:0:
231,330,82956,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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202,155,83586,2,0,P|188:221|181:244,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
106,99,83795,1,8,0:0:0:0:
106,99,83900,1,12,0:0:0:0:

Rizia

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Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-07-17T12:35:56+00:00

bubbled

Doyak

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Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-24T17:46:41+00:00

Sorry, but I have to pop this bubble for the time being.

[General]
* The gap between Easy and Normal is HORRIBLE. Easy diff is merely a 1/1 spam diff, but Normal diff has sooooooo complicated rhythms using LOTS OF 1/4 beats. I just did confirmation with IamKwaN that she doesn't agree with it too. So here's a way to fix it.

Rename the current Normal diff to Advanced.
Increase CS to 3.5~4
Make a new Normal diff

Otherwise, you'll have to nerf the diff overall greatly and just remove most of the 1/4s, so it's better to just map another diff between them.

[Easy]
* This song is not fast, nor the map is dense, so idk why you used such a high AR for this Easy diff. Newbies would barely have time to react to what's coming next and read them. Maximum is 4 imo. I'd rather use 3. + KwaN told me the same thing too
* 01:02:187 (3) - This is offscreen. Modding Assistant also pointed it out. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681493
* 01:16:453 (5,1) - This diff doesn't even contain much of 1/2 beats, and suddenly throws this 3/4 beats + 1/2 circle, which is pretty unexpected. Just use a 3/2 slider like 01:03:026 (4) - .

[Normal]
* As I said, this diff is already far away from a proper Normal diff, so rename this to Advanced.
* 00:14:460 (6,7,1) - I don't understand what you're trying to represent here. Just doing http://puu.sh/qcODY/62d531b959.jpg would do a better job for this rhythm without confusion.
* 00:31:977 - Why do you skip this beat? That's the strongest/highest vocal pitch and is a downbeat.
* 01:02:816 (6) - This slider ignores some important beats like 01:03:026 - 01:03:341 - and has notes on red ticks, so I wonder why you didn't use http://puu.sh/qcOYq/aa530c22a9.jpg this beat.

[Celsius' Hard]
* HP5? This diff is pretty dense.

[Hard]
* Consider renaming this to Hyper. The chains of 1/4s are questionable if they deserve the name of Hard.
* 00:34:390 (3,4) - This is not slider-to-something jump. It's a legit spaced 1/4. So stick 3 to 4 instead of 2.
* 00:36:173 (2) - 00:39:530 (2) - You would already know that these aren't same as 00:37:851 (2) - 00:41:208 (2) - . Yes, these are vocal-only sounds. But the whole pattern is following the instruments. So I feel these two notes are out of context rather than 'it represents the vocal sound'. So I think it's better to remove them.
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - I would avoid 1/8s on a Hard diff. It gives only very short time to safely hit them. You can keep using 3/4 sliders to represent the vocals.
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5) - Consider that these are 1/3 drums as Karia used. Melody-wise is fine, but it seemed you want to follow the drums here.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:05:858 (4,5) - The sliderhead doesn't have that 'clearer' sound while the slidertail does. So why not use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681986 instead?
* 00:11:418 (5,6,1) - This rhythm is questionable. There's no strong sound on 00:11:733 - this blue tick and 00:11:837 - is literally the boundary downbeat that discriminates the after and the before part. Leaving it on a mere slidertail gives awkward transition between these parts. So use this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/qcQJQ/27e717a1fe.jpg
* 00:21:855 - I don't hear any sounds, just use 2 circles?
* 00:25:264 (1) - 00:28:621 (1) - I don't see a good reason to represent the blue tick, while ignoring 00:25:684 - this white tick that contains both 'stronger drum', 'vocals', and a sound that keeps repeating http://puu.sh/qcR8c/f31b43578b.png this. The whole section is focused on the vocals anyway.
* 01:07:012 (3,1) - This spacing is rather confusing with 1/4 beats. It looks more like a soft 1/4 flow but it's actually disconnected as 1/2. You'd better put it away and disconnect the flow so that it actually works as a 1/2.
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're following the drums, this kind of beat doesn't work anymore, as the drum pattern is a bit changed and Karia got it very nicely ( notice that 01:22:327 - has 1/3 drums). See how strong 01:23:166 - this drum and 01:22:956 - 01:23:061 - doesn't contain any drums.

[Karia's Insane]
완벽

[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (1,1) - I actually hear 1/8 beats individually, not just a DRRRRRR. 1/16 is pretty cruel even though this is an Extra.

Call me back when you fix the bold ones and think it's ready again.

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-07-25T12:21:30+00:00

to Doyak> fixed!

Del05, thank you for fixing instead me

Del05

482 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Del05 2016-07-26T06:25:16+00:00

Hi
Thank you Doyak

Really shock mod for me lol

Doyak wrote:
Sorry, but I have to pop this bubble for the time being.

[General] All fixed
* The gap between Easy and Normal is HORRIBLE. Easy diff is merely a 1/1 spam diff, but Normal diff has sooooooo complicated rhythms using LOTS OF 1/4 beats. I just did confirmation with IamKwaN that she doesn't agree with it too. So here's a way to fix it.
Rename the current Normal diff to Advanced.
Increase CS to 3.5~4
Make a new Normal diff
Otherwise, you'll have to nerf the diff overall greatly and just remove most of the 1/4s, so it's better to just map another diff between them.

[Easy]
* This song is not fast, nor the map is dense, so idk why you used such a high AR for this Easy diff. Newbies would barely have time to react to what's coming next and read them. Maximum is 4 imo. I'd rather use 3. + KwaN told me the same thing too fixed
* 01:02:187 (3) - This is offscreen. Modding Assistant also pointed it out. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681493 fixed
* 01:16:453 (5,1) - This diff doesn't even contain much of 1/2 beats, and suddenly throws this 3/4 beats + 1/2 circle, which is pretty unexpected. Just use a 3/2 slider like 01:03:026 (4) - . fixed

[Normal]
* As I said, this diff is already far away from a proper Normal diff, so rename this to Advanced. fixed
* 00:14:460 (6,7,1) - I don't understand what you're trying to represent here. Just doing http://puu.sh/qcODY/62d531b959.jpg would do a better job for this rhythm without confusion. fixed
* 00:31:977 - Why do you skip this beat? That's the strongest/highest vocal pitch and is a downbeat. fixed
* 01:02:816 (6) - This slider ignores some important beats like 01:03:026 - 01:03:341 - and has notes on red ticks, so I wonder why you didn't use http://puu.sh/qcOYq/aa530c22a9.jpg this beat. fixed

[Celsius' Hard]
* HP5? This diff is pretty dense. fixed

[Hard]
* Consider renaming this to Hyper. The chains of 1/4s are questionable if they deserve the name of Hard. fixed
* 00:34:390 (3,4) - This is not slider-to-something jump. It's a legit spaced 1/4. So stick 3 to 4 instead of 2. fixed
* 00:36:173 (2) - 00:39:530 (2) - You would already know that these aren't same as 00:37:851 (2) - 00:41:208 (2) - . Yes, these are vocal-only sounds. But the whole pattern is following the instruments. So I feel these two notes are out of context rather than 'it represents the vocal sound'. So I think it's better to remove them. FIxed
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - I would avoid 1/8s on a Hard diff. It gives only very short time to safely hit them. You can keep using 3/4 sliders to represent the vocals. Since it became Hyper diff, i think i must map that using 1/8 snap, the sound actually in 1/8 snap, so i tried to map it and use 1/8 snap
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5) - Consider that these are 1/3 drums as Karia used. Melody-wise is fine, but it seemed you want to follow the drums here. fixed

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:05:858 (4,5) - The sliderhead doesn't have that 'clearer' sound while the slidertail does. So why not use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681986 instead? fixed
* 00:11:418 (5,6,1) - This rhythm is questionable. There's no strong sound on 00:11:733 - this blue tick and 00:11:837 - is literally the boundary downbeat that discriminates the after and the before part. Leaving it on a mere slidertail gives awkward transition between these parts. So use this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/qcQJQ/27e717a1fe.jpg fixed
* 00:21:855 - I don't hear any sounds, just use 2 circles? fixed
* 00:25:264 (1) - 00:28:621 (1) - I don't see a good reason to represent the blue tick, while ignoring 00:25:684 - this white tick that contains both 'stronger drum', 'vocals', and a sound that keeps repeating http://puu.sh/qcR8c/f31b43578b.png this. The whole section is focused on the vocals anyway.
* 01:07:012 (3,1) - This spacing is rather confusing with 1/4 beats. It looks more like a soft 1/4 flow but it's actually disconnected as 1/2. You'd better put it away and disconnect the flow so that it actually works as a 1/2. fixed
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're following the drums, this kind of beat doesn't work anymore, as the drum pattern is a bit changed and Karia got it very nicely ( notice that 01:22:327 - has 1/3 drums). See how strong 01:23:166 - this drum and 01:22:956 - 01:23:061 - doesn't contain any drums. fixed

[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (1,1) - I actually hear 1/8 beats individually, not just a DRRRRRR. 1/16 is pretty cruel even though this is an Extra. fixed

Call me back when you fix the bold ones and think it's ready again.

Last edited by Del05 2016-07-26T06:55:07+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Del05

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Topic Starter

Del05 2016-07-26T06:52:13+00:00

All fixed and updated, for

Doyak wrote:
Hope this is the final check. I'm sorry for not saying all of them at once, but modding several times instead!

[Easy]
* lel, was the OD and HP was like this before? Lower them to around 2.

[Advanced]
* 00:46:663 (4,8) - Stack properly
* 01:00:089 (8,1) - DS too close.

I've discussed with Bakari for some points, and got some concerns about these:
* 01:13:935 (1,2) - This has some polarity issue as the beat snap changes widely, especially that 3/4 gap. So http://puu.sh/qkTTt/ffd7ebff86.jpg this is the only solution I found.
* 00:02:607 - 00:04:285 - 00:05:963 - Bakari also pointed out that these beats aren't worth to have a note while the blue ticks after it is empty and the bass sound actually disappears in the slider. So he suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/BZYBULCN.jpg this instead.
* 00:47:921 (8) - He suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/g3RLy0Ze.jpg cuz he thinks 00:48:761 - should be clickable, but I think the current rhythm works better, so it's your choice.

[Hyper]
* 01:23:900 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary. It looks rather weird and confusing with the previous 1/3s.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:11:628 (6) - Swap the hitsounds on the head and the tail?
* 00:11:837 (7,1) - NC should be on 7 instead of 1
* 00:27:362 (3) - Add a clap? It's a same vocal with others.
* 00:32:816 (2) - Sorry for not saying this in the first place. But here doesn't have any significant beat, while 00:32:712 - 00:32:921 - do. So you can use http://puu.sh/qkUD9/633f30bdfe.jpg or whatever.
* 00:36:593 (3,4) - 00:37:851 (3,4) - I wonder what's your purpose of these whistles are. I mean, why they appear only here and not on 00:39:949 (4) - 00:41:208 (5,6) - ?
* 01:17:607 (2) - Umm I don't see a good reason to ignore 01:17:712 - this enormous drum sound and focus on blue ticks. Would be great if you can try http://puu.sh/qkULg/d28e98741e.jpg

Also time for checking hitsounds~

* 01:16:453 - 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - Using cymbals for all of these is pretty noisy. And because of this you couldn't add it on 01:17:292 - , while it's basically the same sound as 00:08:481 - . So add it here instead, and remove from 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - and leave it only on 01:16:453 - .
* 00:35:334 - 60% volume here feels too loud, especially these whistles sounds stand out too much compared to other parts. Consider lowering it to 40~50%.
* 00:56:313 - On Normal/Advanced, hitsounds here sound really awkward because they don't contain all the drums that the hitsound pattern supposed to be. You'd better try to adjust them a little, so that they actually can represent the vocal properly.
* 01:03:026 - Same
* @Celsius: 00:55:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Are you really going to keep these finishes? Sounds a bit too loud for me, and that's the only part where you 'spammed' finishes, even 00:56:942 - this inside reverse slider. You 'selected' stronger vocals on other parts. Also 01:16:453 - Not adding a finish here kinda ruins the vocal emphasis imo. Also just wondering why 01:27:152 - this line is even here lol

I believe everything else is good to go now.

Last edited by Del05 2016-08-02T10:52:06+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Doyak

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Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-26T16:53:21+00:00

[Normal]
* 00:33:446 (3,4) - WTF DS
* 00:35:334 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - NC term here is a bit messed up. Why not just use http://puu.sh/qf9B8/2d47cb123a.jpg to keep it same like others?
* 01:08:061 - Ignoring this strong vocal is a bit weird. Also idk why you suddenly decided to represent 01:07:012 - this vocal instead of the downbeat. Just keep doing http://puu.sh/qf9QV/ca92db437b.jpg this.
* 01:10:159 (6) - Would be great if this was 3/4 reverse slider as well, like 00:56:313 (6) - 01:03:026 (5) - 01:16:453 (5) - .

[Advanced]
* I'd really like you to add more 1/4 beats on the kiai. It is supposed to represent the highlight part of the song but it does too much simplification of the rhythms compared to the first and last part atm. Currently, it's just a little denser than Normal, but I think it needs to represent more specific rhythms. Some examples would be using http://puu.sh/qfaGq/4a0b66f636.jpg this kind of rhythm on 00:50:439 - . Of course, I mean the whole kiai should only use some 1/4s and represent the actual strong point of the song. If you look at Celsius' Hard, you'll notice that Advanced is way too much simpler than that.
* 00:34:285 (2) - I forgot to ask you. Could you explain what this note wants to represent? You skipped 00:34:495 - this vocal and the "eeeeeeeek" sound on the background, and especially 00:34:705 - doesn't have anything special. So why not do http://puu.sh/qfanM/0a07b1f0e1.jpg this?
* 00:46:663 (4,5,6,7) - You can make this prettier. Rotate 4 by 10 degree and do the same thing you did, and it will be balanced.
* 01:15:194 (3) - Reduce this to 1/2. This provides unnecessarily hard rhythm.
* 01:21:488 (3,4) - Aah, why isn't this just like 00:13:516 (4,5,6,7) - ?
* 01:22:327 (5,6,7,8) - I think this should be http://puu.sh/qfbbL/9723e04498.jpg or represent the 1/3 drums instead.
Then use AR 6.5, seems better for me.

[Hyper]
* 00:34:495 (4,5,6) - Oh geez, come to think of it, there's no reason to make the blue tick clickable instead of the stronger and intuitive white tick. So would you use http://puu.sh/qfbtU/2af2fa43fa.jpg ?
* 01:23:166 (3) - You can NC this because it's back to 1/4 from 1/3.

[Lecana's Insane]
Uhh Del05, I don't think the way you fixed works properly... please revert this to the old version and let's wait for Lecana to fix the diff.

[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - Oh my god, this scares me soooo much. Reduce the SV please... as it's not a 1/16 now loooool

Ok, hitsounds check postponed to next round again. Fix those and wait for Lecana, then let me recheck this again.

chainpullz

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Joined June 2013

chainpullz 2016-07-28T03:52:18+00:00

Meg's:
01:22:327 (1) - The drum is on a 1/6 tick so putting a whistle here just sounds like shit
01:22:537 (2) - same ^
01:22:747 (3) - same ^
01:23:061 (2) - same ^

Might have to rethink the hitsounding for last bit because the claps sound weird without the whistles.

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-07-28T10:09:39+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Meg's Extra]
* 00:49:600 (2,3) - Oh my god, this scares me soooo much. Reduce the SV please... as it's not a 1/16 now loooool i didn't change SV. please forgive my selfish

chainpullz wrote:
Meg's:
01:22:327 (1) - The drum is on a 1/6 tick so putting a whistle here just sounds like shit i picked up sounds of synthesizer. no changed
01:22:537 (2) - same ^
01:22:747 (3) - same ^
01:23:061 (2) - same ^

Might have to rethink the hitsounding for last bit because the claps sound weird without the whistles.

ty
please update
http://puu.sh/qhibF.zip

Satellite

3,683 posts

Joined June 2012

Satellite 2016-07-29T19:23:55+00:00

Lecana's Insane -> 00:08:061 (2) - why snap 1/6 ? i think slider end here 00:08:376 - probably missing snapped.

Lecana

253 posts

Joined March 2012

Lecana 2016-07-30T18:21:02+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Sorry, but I have to pop this bubble for the time being.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:05:858 (4,5) - The sliderhead doesn't have that 'clearer' sound while the slidertail does. So why not use https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5681986 instead?
fixed
* 00:11:418 (5,6,1) - This rhythm is questionable. There's no strong sound on 00:11:733 - this blue tick and 00:11:837 - is literally the boundary downbeat that discriminates the after and the before part. Leaving it on a mere slidertail gives awkward transition between these parts. So use this rhythm instead: http://puu.sh/qcQJQ/27e717a1fe.jpg
fixed
* 00:21:855 - I don't hear any sounds, just use 2 circles?
fixed
* 00:25:264 (1) - 00:28:621 (1) - I don't see a good reason to represent the blue tick, while ignoring 00:25:684 - this white tick that contains both 'stronger drum', 'vocals', and a sound that keeps repeating http://puu.sh/qcR8c/f31b43578b.png this. The whole section is focused on the vocals anyway.
fixed
* 01:07:012 (3,1) - This spacing is rather confusing with 1/4 beats. It looks more like a soft 1/4 flow but it's actually disconnected as 1/2. You'd better put it away and disconnect the flow so that it actually works as a 1/2.
fixed
* 01:22:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you're following the drums, this kind of beat doesn't work anymore, as the drum pattern is a bit changed and Karia got it very nicely ( notice that 01:22:327 - has 1/3 drums). See how strong 01:23:166 - this drum and 01:22:956 - 01:23:061 - doesn't contain any drums.
sorry,better for me.

thanks mod and sorry late.

Satellite wrote:
Lecana's Insane -> 00:08:061 (2) - why snap 1/6 ? i think slider end here 00:08:376 - probably missing snapped.
あああああああああやらかし！！！fixed

ありがとナス！

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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-07-31T17:05:59+00:00

Hope this is the final check. I'm sorry for not saying all of them at once, but modding several times instead!

[Easy]
* lel, was the OD and HP was like this before? Lower them to around 2.

[Advanced]
* 00:46:663 (4,8) - Stack properly
* 01:00:089 (8,1) - DS too close.

I've discussed with Bakari for some points, and got some concerns about these:
* 01:13:935 (1,2) - This has some polarity issue as the beat snap changes widely, especially that 3/4 gap. So http://puu.sh/qkTTt/ffd7ebff86.jpg this is the only solution I found.
* 00:02:607 - 00:04:285 - 00:05:963 - Bakari also pointed out that these beats aren't worth to have a note while the blue ticks after it is empty and the bass sound actually disappears in the slider. So he suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/BZYBULCN.jpg this instead.
* 00:47:921 (8) - He suggested http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/g3RLy0Ze.jpg cuz he thinks 00:48:761 - should be clickable, but I think the current rhythm works better, so it's your choice.

[Hyper]
* 01:23:900 (1) - This NC doesn't seem necessary. It looks rather weird and confusing with the previous 1/3s.

[Lecana's Insane]
* 00:11:628 (6) - Swap the hitsounds on the head and the tail?
* 00:11:837 (7,1) - NC should be on 7 instead of 1
* 00:27:362 (3) - Add a clap? It's a same vocal with others.
* 00:32:816 (2) - Sorry for not saying this in the first place. But here doesn't have any significant beat, while 00:32:712 - 00:32:921 - do. So you can use http://puu.sh/qkUD9/633f30bdfe.jpg or whatever.
* 00:36:593 (3,4) - 00:37:851 (3,4) - I wonder what's your purpose of these whistles are. I mean, why they appear only here and not on 00:39:949 (4) - 00:41:208 (5,6) - ?
* 01:17:607 (2) - Umm I don't see a good reason to ignore 01:17:712 - this enormous drum sound and focus on blue ticks. Would be great if you can try http://puu.sh/qkULg/d28e98741e.jpg

Also time for checking hitsounds~

* 01:16:453 - 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - Using cymbals for all of these is pretty noisy. And because of this you couldn't add it on 01:17:292 - , while it's basically the same sound as 00:08:481 - . So add it here instead, and remove from 01:16:768 - 01:17:082 - and leave it only on 01:16:453 - .
* 00:35:334 - 60% volume here feels too loud, especially these whistles sounds stand out too much compared to other parts. Consider lowering it to 40~50%.
* 00:56:313 - On Normal/Advanced, hitsounds here sound really awkward because they don't contain all the drums that the hitsound pattern supposed to be. You'd better try to adjust them a little, so that they actually can represent the vocal properly.
* 01:03:026 - Same
* @Celsius: 00:55:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Are you really going to keep these finishes? Sounds a bit too loud for me, and that's the only part where you 'spammed' finishes, even 00:56:942 - this inside reverse slider. You 'selected' stronger vocals on other parts. Also 01:16:453 - Not adding a finish here kinda ruins the vocal emphasis imo. Also just wondering why 01:27:152 - this line is even here lol

I believe everything else is good to go now.

Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2016-08-01T14:24:41+00:00

fixed the hitsound there and deleted green line
(delete some finish on the part you mentioned and add finish on 01:16:453 - )

hitsound copier was a mistake

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Lecana

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Lecana 2016-08-01T14:52:06+00:00

ok.fixed.thanks again :3

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[Metadata]
Title:The Asterisk War
TitleUnicode:The Asterisk War
Artist:Shiena Nishizawa
ArtistUnicode:西沢幸奏
Creator:Del05
Version:Lecana's Insane
Source:学戦都市アスタリスク
Tags:the academy city on the water gakusen toshi image-- meg Lecana Karia CelsiusLK tv size opening
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316,46,54425,2,0,P|307:111|297:132,1,70
266,185,54635,2,0,P|370:161|407:158,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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42,134,55264,2,0,P|98:155|117:170,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
270,259,55474,5,4,0:0:0:0:
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105,160,55788,2,0,P|158:126|165:44,1,140,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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51,302,56942,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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301,175,69740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-08-02T12:15:41+00:00

I thought about this again, and I decided to mod Lecana's diff more thoroughly before pushing this forward.

@Lecana

00:31:348 (4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Could you explain what these hitsounds represent? The claps are on weird spots and lacks emphasis too. You were emphasizing the vocals, so 00:30:928 - 00:31:558 - 00:33:026 - 00:33:236 - 00:33:446 - need claps, and 00:33:131 - clap should be removed. Also consider adding something(like whistles) on 00:32:607 (3,4) -
00:38:691 (1) - Maybe it's better to remove this finish, there's nothing to emphasize with that loud cymbal sound.
00:42:047 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - The clap sounds here are questionable, as there isn't anything special on 2/4th beat, but you still put claps on these beats. Like Karia's diff, I think not using additional hitsounds here (except those finishes) is better for this part.
00:43:726 (5,1) - 00:58:621 (6,1) - 01:05:124 (1,3) - 00:51:907 (1,2) - 01:09:740 (4,1) - Swap NC?
00:52:117 - 00:56:313 - add clap
01:06:383 - 01:07:222 - Considering what you did on 00:52:956 - 00:53:795 - , these needs finishes too. Also 00:52:956 (6) - needs NC.
01:08:900 - 00:55:474 - Finish consistency
01:17:607 (2,3) - Please use claps on 3's head, and remove it from 2. That's how you hitsounded the whole part. Also this jump might be too big as a circle-to-something 1/4, so mind reducing the spacing?
01:21:907 - Add clap

@Meg
01:10:369 (3) - 00:56:942 (4) - One minor thing, but finish consistency?

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-08-02T21:22:38+00:00

Doyak wrote:
I thought about this again, and I decided to mod Lecana's diff more thoroughly before pushing this forward.

@Meg
01:10:369 (3) - 00:56:942 (4) - One minor thing, but finish consistency?　ok

thanks

to Del05, please add finish on 01:10:369 (3) -

Doyak

osu! Alumni

2,621 posts

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-08-14T16:42:00+00:00

IamKwaN wrote:
i found current metadata having no issues, good luck!

http://puu.sh/qAZdK/e679912866.png from http://shiena-nishizawa.com/
http://puu.sh/qAZhj/92e806b27f.png from http://asterisk-war.com/music/
http://puu.sh/pNlk4/373fc310ae.jpg from http://shiena-nishizawa.com
http://puu.sh/pNllE/47c7325419.png from ^

IamKwaN wrote:
yea the official uses the same anime name for second season, only the wording for the opening changes, tv anime 学戦都市アスタリスク new opening 'The Asterisk War' as shown in one of the screenshots included in the previous pm.

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-08-17T18:01:04+00:00

qualified

Agatsu

Beatmap Nominator

1,145 posts

Joined January 2015

Agatsu 2016-08-17T23:27:25+00:00

wooow

congrats del!

Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2016-08-18T02:59:16+00:00

Good job, friend

Yuii-

2,503 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-08-18T03:41:45+00:00

01:04:284 (2) - Not specifically unrankable, but fixing the snap on the Advanced difficulty would be nice.

@Del: Your hitsounds are literally inaudible, except for the clap. Everything else seems non-existent.
@Lecana: I love your difficulty, it is really well done, in my opinion. Although the hitsounds are barely audible, there must be at least a 20% difference between music-effects to make them noticeable. Sections like 00:57:572 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lack of hitsounding as a whole.
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please?
@Meg: Most of your finishes throughout the Kiai seem randomly placed. Especially the ones on 01:08:900 - they do not even go along with the music itself. You could definitely improve that. Also, 01:02:397 (2,3) - is a pain to play, that spacing and the flow to the left is so hard to catch up

Could you consider something like this or even changing the whole pattern? (Personal opinion).

Personally, I do like the set, but the hitsounding could be heavily improved. Not only in terms of volume, but some hitsounds seem randomly placed and without a certain patterning.
Good luck and play Lecana's difficulty, you will not be disappointed

!

(And yes, Shadow has a point.) Nonetheless, sometimes hearing to more opinions can be good ^^

Last edited by Yuii- 2016-08-18T03:58:29+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Shad0w1and

1,588 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 2016-08-18T03:42:09+00:00

Don't get depressed by the hate votes.
"Don't make a piece that 90% people satisfied with, but make a piece that 70% people hates and 30% love."
Nice job, Nice song.
We need more hard maps that do not offer PP.

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- 2016-08-18T04:25:37+00:00

Senengnya masi bisa ngerank map. Aku mah apa. Udah sirna harapan. wkwkwk

Gratz btw

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2016-08-18T05:17:56+00:00

Lecana's Insane

00:09:949 (8,2) - hiding reverse arrow is rankable nowadays?

Kibbleru

osu! Alumni

5,844 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2016-08-18T06:46:59+00:00

Lami wrote:
Lecana's Insane

00:09:949 (8,2) - hiding reverse arrow is rankable nowadays?

hitburst doesn't actually last long enough to cover.

Yuii- wrote:
01:04:284 (2) - Not specifically unrankable, but fixing the snap on the Advanced difficulty would be nice. I don't get it. what's wrong with this one?

@Del: Your hitsounds are literally inaudible, except for the clap. Everything else seems non-existent. agree, kiai could at least be 70-80%
@Lecana: I love your difficulty, it is really well done, in my opinion. Although the hitsounds are barely audible, there must be at least a 20% difference between music-effects to make them noticeable. Sections like 00:57:572 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - lack of hitsounding as a whole. agree here
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please? i think he was trying to be consistent with the previous non-stacked parts
@Meg: Most of your finishes throughout the Kiai seem randomly placed. Especially the ones on 01:08:900 - they do not even go along with the music itself. You could definitely improve that. Also, 01:02:397 (2,3) - is a pain to play, that spacing and the flow to the left is so hard to catch up Could you consider something like this or even changing the whole pattern? (Personal opinion).

Personally, I do like the set, but the hitsounding could be heavily improved. Not only in terms of volume, but some hitsounds seem randomly placed and without a certain patterning.
Good luck and play Lecana's difficulty, you will not be disappointed !

(And yes, Shadow has a point.) Nonetheless, sometimes hearing to more opinions can be good ^^

-NanoRIPE-

2,018 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2016-08-18T07:27:54+00:00

Grats kak!! ~

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-08-18T09:22:21+00:00

oh gratz

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-08-18T09:24:04+00:00

Congrats guys!

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2016-08-18T17:17:45+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
@Karia: 01:10:369 (5,1,2) - Plays quite poorly, this transition feels weird. It does not look bad in the editor, though. Would you mind stacking (1,2) please?As kib said, I wanted to keep prev speed. Plus, I'd played my diff many times but never felt it's weird.

chainpullz

2,334 posts

Joined June 2013

chainpullz 2016-08-19T05:47:36+00:00

Shad0w1and wrote:
Don't get depressed by the hate votes.
"Don't make a piece that 90% people satisfied with, but make a piece that 70% people hates and 30% love."
Nice job, Nice song.
We need more interesting maps.

^This (though difficulty & pp are 100% irrelevant in the end)

Low bpm doesn't get enough attention imo. In general the lower the bpm the more expressive/technical a song tends to be which really opens up all sorts of possibilities for creativity when it comes to mapping. It's just sad that people fixate so much numbers be it pp or star difficulty.

People fixate on things like "I can play most X.X* maps but I can't play this one it must be bad and/or I don't like it because of that."

Similarly they hate patterns that replace spacing with harsh flow because "I can play large jumps but I cant even hit these tiny ones this mapping sucks" failing to realize that such patterns are meant to replace large spacing, not to be easier than it.

It honestly feels like people are starting to forget that osu is more than just an aim game these days tbh. In mania people don't hesitate to do things like map 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8, 1/12 all in the same chart if it's in the music even if it makes the chart less playable. Harder to read isn't always a bad thing like everyone tends to make it out to be these days. In the end most music has structure and it's not really up to the mapper to hold the player's hands if they can't hear it.

(tbh idk why I'm posting this and this isn't really related to the map but if it inspires even 1 more interesting map mission accomplished I guess?)

Del05

482 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Del05 2016-08-20T13:03:54+00:00

Wow many post after qualified xD (i dont when it is qualified)
i still busy with my university event, but i will replied yuii post as soon as possible

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-08-20T21:09:21+00:00

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:
Senengnya masi bisa ngerank map. Aku mah apa. Udah sirna harapan. wkwkwk

Gratz btw

ngopo iki, ngebaper.

pindah bedug aja
ez, just "don kat done" :^)

-[ AmiShici ]-

-[ AmiShici ]- 2016-08-21T08:19:06+00:00

Surono wrote:
ngopo iki, ngebaper.

pindah bedug aja
ez, just "don kat done" :^)

Wkwkwk. Angel pak ngemape.mbok Beduge jebol koh lah :'v

Surono

7,195 posts

Joined November 2013

Surono 2016-08-21T09:04:07+00:00

-[ AmiShici ]- wrote:
Wkwkwk. Angel pak ngemape.mbok Beduge jebol koh lah :'v

ki lho kwkwk, wingi aku pamer ngebedug pas adzan berkumandang. jebol jebulane *sakjane keluwihan Spirito desu* wadohhhhhh wkwkkwkw xd

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

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Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2016-08-22T16:05:39+00:00

I agree with Yuii- that the hitsounding could be improved here. The chime/jingle hitwhistles (SC:3, SC:99) aren't too bad, as they're used in relatively calm parts of the song, but the kick drum hitwhistle (SC:1) plays throughout and is practically inaudible during the rest of the map - especially in the kiai. As such, it doesn't provide anywhere near enough feedback to the player in these sections.

Aside from that, there was a point for Meg's diff that was not yet responded to - please address this also before pushing the set back towards qualification.

Good luck!

Meg

1,617 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2016-08-23T04:37:17+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Aside from that, there was a point for Meg's diff that was not yet responded to - please address this also before pushing the set back towards qualification.

wtf should i reply all with quote?
of course i have checked all mods and wrote fixing points.
also appreciated to them

if need it, i'll reply them.
but... it's minor thing imo xd

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