1. muffled voice (3.6 stars, 655 notes)

Mazziv wrote:

hi im gay tbh

u got a timing point and a green timing point(w/e theyre called) on the same second,i know its been discussed if this is allowed or not so i just thought bout pointing it out it's for sv change which is always allowed


[stuff]00:02:727 (5,1) - was this on purpose(i think so atleast) yes it was
00:00:584 (2,3,4) - why different spacing when same snap spacing? shuffled things around some
00:00:584 (2,4) - overlapsssss
00:13:012 (4,2) - schtack? nope this is on purpose
00:15:584 (4,6) - i guess that is on purpose? yeah
00:23:298 (6,1) - STACK PLEASINOASDUJÅAOJFASJODA nope for it would make the repeat even harder to see, and not enough movement imo
01:06:584 (3) - maybe not predictable? dunno doe doubled repeats are coming back into the meta 8)
01:06:584 (3,1) - you want to die right now? come at me bro
01:48:584 (6) - how are you supposed to read this slider? i think it's pretty obvious how to play this because the sliderbody doesn't feed into the tail, i'll rework it if lots of people complain but i really like how this plays here, and i've never seen testplayers break so
01:49:441 (7,8,9,1) - should a ,,stream'' like have 3 or 5 notes? it's 1/3 stream so no..
02:13:441 (4) - place it like in the middle of the slider? uniformed spacing orz
02:15:370 (4) - looks like an ear l o l ww
02:19:870 (2,1) - intentional zz
02:21:370 (2) - as k,dfop¨jsdfjnkläsfjkosdf¨sdj'kf
04:00:155 (1) - did you just i did just

hi undeadoverlaps aka axarious aka hollow wings your pseudo overlaps killed me inside thanks for that

1. 01:48:584 (6) - (talking to other modder) the slider leniency covers most of the slider --> therefore not really an issure imo
2. 03:18:584 (3) - sv change from .5 to 1.75 doesn't make too much sense because vocals.
3. 03:25:441 (3) - ^
4. 03:46:013 (3) - this one makes a bit more sense because you can tell what sounds are being followed
5. 04:00:155 (1) - this isn't very active nor fun imo. I'd suggest breaking it up into more than one slider. sv is fine.
6. 04:25:656 (8,9) - I like this lmao
7. 04:47:727 (1) - same comment as 03:46:013 (3)
8. 05:12:691 (3) - yay someone who can snap haha
9. 05:15:263 (6) - I wasn't really paying attention to prior triples but idk if there is sound here
10. 05:18:584 (1) - nothing too wrong with this. but you could have a spinner if you want to make sure the player doesn't fail on this slider.

[alt][F4] wrote:

[Mod?]

1. 01:48:584 (6) - (talking to other modder) the slider leniency covers most of the slider --> therefore not really an issure imo
2. 03:18:584 (3) - sv change from .5 to 1.75 doesn't make too much sense because vocals. it makes sense for me, .5x sv is enough for vocal emphasis and builds into next downbeat well, 1.75x releases the tension, i like it like this, same for all of this pattern
3. 03:25:441 (3) - ^
4. 03:46:013 (3) - this one makes a bit more sense because you can tell what sounds are being followed
5. 04:00:155 (1) - this isn't very active nor fun imo. I'd suggest breaking it up into more than one slider. sv is fine. no thx, .1x sv would be horrible with regular rhythms.. i prefer this long hold over any other option, this is the best for this section imo
6. 04:25:656 (8,9) - I like this lmao
7. 04:47:727 (1) - same comment as 03:46:013 (3) for future modding, bundle all examples for the same idea together, or just only use one example and expect the modder to know to apply it throughout the map
8. 05:12:691 (3) - yay someone who can snap haha
9. 05:15:263 (6) - I wasn't really paying attention to prior triples but idk if there is sound here i believe there is
10. 05:18:584 (1) - nothing too wrong with this. but you could have a spinner if you want to make sure the player doesn't fail on this slider. spinners are easier to fail on imo, i think this is better (and hp is so low anyway lol)

I didn't see anything else. Other than maybe some cool things I could point out but that just wastes time I guess idk. :3

Boobs wrote:

muffled voice (3.71 stars, 665 notes)

1. 01:29:084 (6) - i don't think this note holds any relevance to the music. personally i would delete this, you would probably not though. hm, that works well, changed
2. 01:38:513 (6,7,8,9,1) - very good
3. 02:07:013 (1,2) - little bigger jump. Possibly around 1.5x - 1.6x sure, though not that far, and angled down more
4. 02:30:370 (5) and 02:30:584 (1) - 1.7x DS change. this part should be more expressed. wanted lower spacing do to high noted vocals, i can see where you're coming from though
5. 03:31:870 (1,2) - maybe try CTRL + G here???? idk. I say ctrl g because it has something to with the guitar i can't explain goes too much against the walking jump pattern for me
6. 03:48:584 (5,6,1,2,3,4) - niiiiiiiiiiice
7. 04:37:013 (2) - emphasize her vocals. Personally would add a red anchor inside the slider-start. this mirrors 02:19:013 (1,2) - , i prefer my way, i think the rhythm gap emphasizes vocals perfectly already
8. 04:50:727 (8,9,10) - VRBIAHIFASCMASCIASCKMNA good. most people would just use same spacing as 04:50:084 (6,7)

i don't know what the combo colour: brown is for. add/replace brown with http://i.imgur.com/f0Qb0CJ.png. there are lots of browns in the bg, see legs outline for example. and i prefer only having 3 colours, but ty for the suggestion

very unique (as usual, it's undeadcapulet ffs), very good. some of what i added was more of an opinion or the struggle to understand the music. get this ranked so you i can have an example to show peasants mapping is not as limited as they think.

Your NM request from p/5040843/ is done

Hollow Wings wrote:

m4m

muffled voice

1. 05:07:657 (4) - unsnapped. fixed
2. 00:23:298 (6,1) - overlap the arrow is unrankble, this must be fixed. same to 02:27:155 (9,1) - , 03:23:727 (5,1) - ok
3. 00:25:655 (3,4) - well, just suggestion here: even avoid the arrow overlapping as far as you can, or that may cause reading problem.
4. 00:30:584 (6,1) - same as above. also 00:44:727 (1,3) - as well. well, i think these are fine, the arrow hiding rule was put in back on the old default skin iirc, it's not as big of an issue anymore
5. 01:47:298 (2,3) - this jump is too short compare to other 1/4 jumps before and after this... consider to put the slider a way from the note, like move 01:47:727 (3) - to 178,262. hm, i think so much motion won't fit for this vocal part, but i did my best to structure this ds better
6. 01:48:584 (6) - this slider self-overlapped too much even can't see the track clearly and may highly considered to be unrankble, please change that to another shape style. same to 04:33:155 (6) - . ok, but i will miss them
7. 01:49:441 (1,2,3,1) - nothing is snapped to 1/6 ticks here, even the really weak drum beats are not. so these objects are unsnapped, please change them into another rhythm style. ok i'm not correct, the drum beats seem ok to me for snapping at 1/6 ticks, thou i think you need more people to check this. it is indeed 1/6, confirmed with others already
8. 02:15:155 (3) - for you did a ds pattern here, i recommend you add nc at this note. same to 02:24:799 (2) - and lots of similar patterns, won't mention them in case you don't wanna change any one of them. i think notes like these are close enough to each other to tell the 1/2 rhythms, so for me nc isn't necessary. i used spacing like this to keep the map at a slower pace even with some jumps, tho idk if it worked like i wanted
9. 02:15:370 (4) - this self-overlapped shape is almost questionable... ask more staff for detail... i should get out of the habit of these silly slidershapes orz
10. 03:17:298 (5) - do ctrl+g to this can have better flow and reasonable distance setting to me. shuffled things around some
11. 03:56:727 kiai from here for a really quiet part??? i think that's not appropriate... haha well, i thought the stream of stars out of the cursor during the hold slider would be a nice effect but, i guess i'll remove it
12. 04:23:727 (2) - make this slider's sv larger to avoid that really short track which technically unreadble. ok, i hope it counts as visible now owo
13. 04:26:084 (9) - nc here to avoid the long combo. i would like to keep this, i think the long combo is important for this part
14. overlaps like 01:59:298 (9,10) - can be avoided since you've set lots of 1/4 jumps everywhere in this map... and at least spread them away makes the composing more clean... oh, true, this form of overlapping doesn't fit in the map, changed all i could find
15. i think you have really really good sense of flow and composing art by structured objects and slider art even with simple shape ones... and i'm sure you can do an epic work if you look deep into the distance setting and do it better to fit the song and game play settings. have my star! :o thank you hw! i will try harder with ds stuff in the future ;w;

FELT's slow song... well, maybe another reason you didn't notice your distance problem is because the song's bpm is too low.

good luck

Thank you for the mod, applied nearly everything!

Yohanes wrote:

Hi!

May I ask why the diff name is muffled voice? relevant to the song lyrics
01:28:441 (5) - change it into two 1/4 sliders will give better transition towards the next pattern imo http://puu.sh/oJkPz/dd78abfbe2.jpg well, i think i'm going to revert this part to an earlier idea
You can either start the spinner here 01:39:798 - or here 01:41:298 - your current one doesn't seems to fit any sound in the music lol ah, you're right, fixed
01:44:513 (5,1,2,3) - This rhythm seems to fit better to the music http://puu.sh/oJkEh/e413d727f3.jpg besides, I think this spacing is quite underwhelming, probably space them more well, interesting idea, but i think my current spacing and rhythming fits the feel of the vocals better
02:06:584 (6) - I'd ctrl+g this just spaced more instead, i want the linear motion but yeah the stopping motion doesn't fit
02:07:655 (3) - NC here instead? i dont think nc is needed here, it conflicts with all of the map's nc patterning and the 1/2 snap is easy enough to see on its own because of the stacked back-and-forth motion
02:12:155 (1) - how about ctrl+g this for better flow? definitely prefer my flow here
04:00:155 (1) - slow ass slider lol indeed ^^
04:25:656 (8) - NC? well, i guess.. i think no nc here is better fitting for my nc concept but im sure it'll be brought up in the future as well

I have no idea how to mod slow bpm map like this, I only stated points that I pretty confidence with lol you did fine haha, thanks for trying your best :3
don't kudos if you don't find this mod useful. Other than that I like this map
Good Luck!

Nao Tomori wrote:

newpageayylmao
pls use really quiet hitsounds i was nearly deafened by them (in intro)
like silent sliderslide kind of quiet hitsounds im sure moe naitoshi will figure it all out~

00:00:156 (1,2,3,4,5) - these felt like they aren't following much in the song. if you wanted, it would make more sense to follow either the super loud piano,(obvs) or the really quiet one that plays syncopated notes. 00:00:798 - 00:04:227 - this sound. mm hard to describe my rhythming method here, it has to do w/ introducing patterning as well as emphasizing strong piano beats.. and just some placing through feeling to, i don't want to follow super close to the piano when i don't map it in the rest of the map

00:20:513 (6) - this was never stack before, why now? was at 00:06:798 (5,1) - actually
00:34:441 (1,2) - this is too obvs of a nice looking blanket to miss ah, i dont think i blanket in this map at all? blanketing doesnt play the way i want this to play (this will probs be what i say for any blanket mod, so if i skip a blanket mod that's why~ )

00:49:655 (5,6) - consider ctrl g on this, puts the slider on the vocal held note stacking emphasizes the held note already imo
00:57:584 (5) - next time this pattern happened you spaced 5 away from 6 7 8, you should do it here to i m o spacing later is to emphasize the strong high note and directly contrast this pattern
01:04:441 (5) - ^ similar thing, but lower spacing to emphasize the weak high note
01:25:870 (1,2,3) - with some minimal movement, you can avoid this ugly overlap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5263773 prefer my right angle

01:45:155 (2,3) - this should be a different rhythm - i think ctrl g (circle > slider) works better hre since the strong vocal downbeat is currently under a slider end and the cricle is at the end of the word on a breath or something well, i think that vocal is pretty weak actually, i prefer my rhythming to emphasize the strong instrumental
01:56:941 (2) - i think you should move 2 to the other side of 1, i would read this as another 1/3 note otherwise hm if this comes up again i may consider, you're not the first person to say the note looks like 1/3 but i already moved it around to try and fix it, i still think moving to the right is the most fun motion here though

02:03:155 (6,7) - this is like saturos-fangirl tier pattern, nobody will read this right seriously ._. please at least make it going in a different direction never seen anyone miss here in all my testplays across many skill levels actually

02:15:370 (4) - rotate this thing pls it looks so weird and the movement you need is really awkward, better if you make the player go down to follow the slider first instead of 90 degrees left turn: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5263791 lol well, because of sliderball mechanics you can just hover your cursor over the sliderhead to play this, i think the right angle is better anyway

but i think you should delete this slider in the first place, since you cover up 2 different guitar notes with it well, it's similar to 01:48:584 (6) - , and i think it fits w/ my other rhythming
02:24:799 (2,3) - cmon srsly ww im not the only person that does this~
03:04:870 (8) - making this into a 3/4 slider ito go into (1) would be cool oh.. good idea <3

03:20:513 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5263805 pls lol, doesnt fit with the map, doesnt play how i'd want, etc etc not everyone thinks blankets are pretty~

03:29:298 (1,2,3,4) - in this pattern 2,3 should be stacked since it's the same note imo. not 4. same w next combo color and the one after that not sure what you mean, are you referring to piano? either way this is just a big creeping 1/2 pattern like 02:07:870 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - or 05:05:298 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) -
03:36:155 (1) - if you ctrl h this it looks a lot nicer ah, i did something similar for better playing experience, not so much for looks tho~

03:46:441 (1) - cmon literally move this over a few pixels and you have a nice blanket : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5263815 ww prefer to have the whole .5x slider inside for playing and looks

04:00:155 (1) - no comment

other than why the fk is this here and not actual mapping bc it's better!! >w<

04:37:013 (2) - this spacing is TINY hoyl i think you should increase it so people dont slider break on (2) hm, you mean 1,2 ds? well, it's the same feeling as 02:19:013 (1,2) - imo, i doubt anyone would misread here but i guess if people keep complaining i can do something else

04:59:084 (2) - this sounded weird to me, might be ok cuz its a slider but it isnt in the song mhm i partially agree the rhythming here is weird but the whole end of the song is awkward sudden 1/4 beats so idk

03:56:727 - and 04:51:584 - you made a nice slider for this sound at the end, why not here too? where? o:

so basically rhythm is qiute nice song is really nice aesthetics could use a makeover ww i always put playing over looking (so i guess rip me ever getting ranked in looking-based meta orz)

1. SL 3?
2. It looks like these files are unused:
   normal-hitfinish3.wav
   soft-hitfinish2.wav
3. And these hitsounds have a delay:
   soft-hitclap.wav
   soft-hitfinish2.wav
4. 01:31:013 (3,4) - Spacing is too close in comparison with 01:30:155 (2,3) - this. Idk if this has been testplayed, but I imagine the player messing up in places like this.
5. 01:35:941 (8) - This pattern emphasizes (8) in a weird way. Change it unless that's what you want.
6. 01:46:441 (1,2) - I tried 1/8 jumping here while playing
7. 02:07:013 (1,2,3) - This spacing is evil.
8. 02:10:013 (1,2,3,1) - These patterns seem like too much for a Hard.
9. 02:11:084 (2,3) - Jump is too high.
10. My main problem so far is that the spacing is hard to recognize. This is especially bad for hard players, and this map has a Hard icon currently.
11. 02:56:513 (3,4,5) - The spacing is evil again.
12. 04:29:727 (2,3,4) - The same distance but different gaps in the music. This pattern could be confusing.
13. 04:31:870 (2,3) - I tried 1/8 jumping here while playing
14. Okay, I wasted most of my mod on spacing... something I don't really understand... sorry about that, have a star once you revive this

Project Railgun wrote:

A note to novice modders: stop hiding your mods inside boxes. It makes it more difficult for other users to check.

Reserving this spot for my mod.

Zero__wind wrote:

M4M from my queue

Red: unrankable issues
Purple: highly recommend to fix

General
there's big hitsound delay in your soft-hitclap.wav and soft-hitfinish2.wav and this is unrankable. plz use this instead fixed, thank you <3
your preview point is unsnapped, plz resnap it properly to somewhere like 01:42:370 - actually preview points don't need to be snapped, and often it's better if they aren't because of song select's fade-in effect. as for location, i like putting preview point at the beginning of the song to not spoil the music x3

muffled voice
00:37:870 (1) - this slider seems too twisted imo, neither the music nor the vocal gave me this kind of feeling changed
00:39:584 (4) - probably need a whistle on head for piano
00:49:870 (6) - ^
01:27:155 (1,3) - moving the NC to 3 seems to make the NC usage more consistent whoops, fixed
01:40:870 (1) - you could use a gradually increasing volume for this spinner, it should fit the music nicely good idea~
01:44:727 (1,2) - the spacing feels too small for kiai mm well the intention was to emphasize the playing of the sliderbodies and prepare for the larger jump, but in a way i agree with you as well.. i think if i move the second one a bit i can make both effects work
02:06:155 (5,6) - ^ disagree here, i would like to emphasize the straight slider motions and have some stopping effect of the cursor to focus on the drums
02:33:584 (2,1) - I expected a bigger spacing here considering the finish on 02:34:441 (1) - was originally going for slowing down w/ the ending of the kiai, but spacing more doesn't really mean it isn't slowing down, so fixed
03:51:155 (4) - you really need a jump for the finish sound here hm imo the straight slider motion also works for similar reasons as before, the pushing in the same direction across the screen gives a nice emphasis feeling for me, so i think i will keep this for now
04:00:155 (1) - wtf, never saeen lazier mapping than this. I think you can try some hitsounding with sliderticks (like the "meltdown sliders" in this map)if you do want to keep this one ;c its not laziness.. i just want to show off the vocals in the best way.. i got the idea from an old version of this map. slidertick sounding would be rly nice imo, but for now Naitoshi can't find samples that fit so we'll wait
05:12:584 - adding a circle here can probably make the rhythm easier to read imo, well, you'd better make the spacing between 05:12:370 (2,3,4) - smaller if you do so though well, i think the rhythm is fine enough for reading because of the spacing, at least most testplayers have ss'd this part iirc, so i'd rather leave it as is
05:15:584 (1) - wow this jump is super big oh tru, fixed x3

oh and naitoshi said no to the other hitsounding stuff

that's all I think
good luck~ thank you for the thorough check, lots of good points brought up <3

Jonawaga wrote:

M4M
[~mod~]

1. SL 3?
2. It looks like these files are unused:
   normal-hitfinish3.wav
   soft-hitfinish2.wav
3. And these hitsounds have a delay:
   soft-hitclap.wav
   soft-hitfinish2.wav all fixed, thanks <3
4. 01:31:013 (3,4) - Spacing is too close in comparison with 01:30:155 (2,3) - this. Idk if this has been testplayed, but I imagine the player messing up in places like this. it should be fine, i have had lots of testplays and nobody misread here, the lower spacing is for the closer beat snap
5. 01:35:941 (8) - This pattern emphasizes (8) in a weird way. Change it unless that's what you want. i like it like this ww, it really emphasizes the downbeat more than anything imo
6. 01:46:441 (1,2) - I tried 1/8 jumping here while playing ww
7. 02:07:013 (1,2,3) - This spacing is evil. well this is similar to many meta stacking patterns, the player will just look to the approach circle since they already know the circle's location, this is fine imo
8. 02:10:013 (1,2,3,1) - These patterns seem like too much for a Hard. marathon maps have no really difficulty in mind
9. 02:11:084 (2,3) - Jump is too high. same as the earlier jump, and enough time to catch it because it's close to the previous slider almost like a stacking pattern
10. My main problem so far is that the spacing is hard to recognize. This is especially bad for hard players, and this map has a Hard icon currently.
11. 02:56:513 (3,4,5) - The spacing is evil again. these are all so close the approach circles overlap, so it's easy to read
12. 04:29:727 (2,3,4) - The same distance but different gaps in the music. This pattern could be confusing. this happened earlier as well ww, and it should be fine imo because jumping from a slider to a circle plays different than from a circle to a circle (though yes, as far as spacing goes, this is most questionable in the map i agree, it should still be fine for pacing imo)
13. 04:31:870 (2,3) - I tried 1/8 jumping here while playing ww
14. Okay, I wasted most of my mod on spacing... something I don't really understand... sorry about that, have a star once you revive this no mod is a waste, my intentions being questioned is always good practicing for me to explain what im looking for, thank you for the mod and the star <3

Good Luck~!!

Xilver wrote:

naitoshi is cute my waifu


[General]

I liked how you did the HW style preview point where you put it at the start of the song, feels very ominous/melodic thanks ofc like everything else in mapping hw's preview points are best

I feel like you could be fine with OD7 to prevent notelock on the 1/3 parts mm id rather keep it at od6, slow slow stream beats wont notelock like you say


[muffled voice]

I really don't know what exactly to adress here. I'm guessing this style of visuals is done on purpose (taken from HW i'm guessing) so i'll try to focus on other things ty, i appreciate this :3

00:04:441 (2,3) - feels weird how this is mapped at 1/4th and the previous part is mapped at 1/2th despite being practically the same melody yes the intro rhythms are all weirdlike but they are the most important feeling beats to me, and also all exist to introduce reading concepts used throughout the map, so i probably wont change any rhythms in this intro
00:12:155 (3,4) - could probably move this to the right more to equal the spacing a bit haha well i dont really think any larger ds would fit well here xp
00:19:013 (4) - extend this to the red tick?
00:25:655 (3,4) - could probably want to make this have the same spacing as 00:24:155 (1,2) - and maybe avoid the overlap it does with 00:27:155 (5) - by moving it more down? actually it used to match that ds before but multiple experienced modders brought up that it obscures the repeat arrow so i changed it to this, and as for overlap well, i never really mind that because of the play experience x3
00:29:084 - try this rhythm instead? emphasizes the vocals more and the repeat slider makes more sense in terms of fitting to the vocals at 00:29:727 - than at 00:31:013 -
http://puu.sh/r9KNd/b5ca95ea5f.jpg (4 starts at 00:29:084 - ) i prefer my rhythm because of active/passive rhythming stuff with the vocals, hard to describe w/out long paragraphs of text x:
00:42:798 (4) - 00:43:441 (5) - these type of sliders are unfitting and don't belong with the rest, i suggest just going for straight/curve hmm after much consideration i suppose you're right, though i don't really care about visuals very much, simple curves overall would fit better, changed for all instances of this
00:48:155 - vocals get really powerful here, i suggest increasing the spacing a bit to emphasize that intensity i dont think that's necessary because i already increase direction changes a lot here for emphasis
01:16:441 (3,4,5,6) - this type of spacing doesn't really make sense because the piano is pretty much as intense as the parts before it but this is really tiny compared to 01:09:584 (3,4,5,6) - or 01:13:013 (3,4,5) - it has to do with the piano's pitch, it's much lower here than before, it's alwso why there's a jump at 01:13:441 (5,6) -
01:22:441 - pretty powerful part here too, suggest increasing spacing as well too (esp since naitoshi seemed to increase hs volume on this part aswell) again, i use a lot of direction changes here for similar effect
01:49:441 (1,2,3) - honestly im not sure there's even a 1/3 in this part of the song, i don't really hear it (applies to other instances where you used the same stacked pattern) will only say this once instead of throughout, but all 1/3 i've used does exist in the song as quiet drum beats, even the one you were 100% sure about, perhaps turn you hitsound volume to 0 and check again at 25% but i've had others confirm already
also not to mention that stacking a 1/3 after not using any in the map at all is pretty bad and really hard to sightread haha this is somewhat fair, but it's not like there was 1/4 before this, and imo any rhythm is readable when stacked, which is why you see patterns like the axion stacked stream show up
03:02:941 (3,4,5,6,7) - this type of spacing is really confusing for the kind of rhythm you used. i suggest overlapping 3 a bit with the slider before it to indicate the 1/4th and space 3 out from 4 to indicate the shift back to 1/2 well, this is just simple ar reading, when notes are this close together it isn't confusing at all imo
03:35:298 (7) - pretty unfitting shape, i can't really hear anything you'd want to emphasize with a different shape in this part so this just looks kinda bad, suggest just doing curve or straight
03:47:298 (3) - i'd curve this, this looking straight is kind of weird http://puu.sh/r9Ltp/f07b479f1e.jpg ok, tho curving more for play experience than visuals
04:00:155 (1) - i have nothing wrong with the speed of the slider, rather the shape and how organized it looks compared to the rest of the map which has a rather disorganized feel to it, could probably want to make the shape have that same feeling aswell lol well idk what to say in response to this, i like this slider's design tho x:
04:58:977 (2) - can't really hear what this is mapped to honestly uh i swear there were drum beats there .-. well i cant hear them anymore so changed to something that's way nicer feeling anyway
05:01:441 (1,2,3,1) - ok for this one i'm 100% sure there's no 1/3 here whatsoever, clear 1/2 beats playing in the background
and really because i've addressed this, you REALLY want to check all your 1/3rd in this map to make sure they're actually mapped to anything in the song, because honestly i couldn't hear most of them.
05:18:584 (1) - ctrl g maybe? creates nice emphasis haha this is def where we differ as mappers since i suggested the opposite on your map, i prefer this antijump style pattern for emphasis into the slow slider


alright, that's what i got. aside from the 1/3 stuff this map is really unique/special, and your use of emphasis was really good to emphasize a powerful song like this.

this was quite the experience to mod, starred. gl with ranking and thanks for modding my map c: thank you for the star, and for trying your hardest with modding my map :>

1. 00:36:155 - throughout this section, you heavily focus on the vocal line, so making this hittable would help it be consistent in that
2. 00:47:298 (6) - kinda feel like the tension(?) in the voice here is kinda underwhelmed when you make it a simple 1/1 rhythm
3. 01:04:441 (5,6,7,8) - maybe make this a perfect rhombus? keeps the aesthetics clean like how you did 01:01:013 (5,6,7,8) - and 00:57:584 (5,6,7,8) -
4. 01:13:441 (5,7) - should just stack these tbh, the hitburst can still be seen over 7 and it looks weird af
5. 01:46:013 (4,5,1) - makes more sense to have 5 closer to 4 for downbeat emphasis, but your spacing overall is pretty wonky
6. 02:09:584 (1,2) - it would make the transition into 1/3 more readable if you were to enlarge this jump a bit
7. 02:24:799 (2) - okay please stack this on the tail its tilting me hard
8. 02:34:013 (1,2,3,1) - why not make a cute little stream instead of a boring stack O W O W O W O
9. 03:05:298 (1) - i really think you should make this shorter and add circles to emphasize the vocals, and to at least make the drum at 03:05:298 (1) - feel more powerful. like, its okay at 03:10:013 (2) - because the vocal actually holds for that long, but here, its shorter
10. 03:18:584 (3) - might as well extend by 1/8 to mimic 03:04:870 (8) - 's effect as a lead-in to the next note
11. 03:32:727 (1) - same as above
12. 03:42:155 (8,9) - these look so out of place relative to the curved sliders you usually use lol
13. 04:00:155 (1) - mm, last journey home flashbacks
14. 05:05:298 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - would've been cool if these kept expanding outward or showed some kind of gradual trend, but for now it just feels a bit repetitive
15. 05:16:870 (3,4,5) - this feels a bit jarring to me, because 05:17:298 - feels too weakly emphasized.. and the jump angle is awkward to play when its a linear movement but unequal spacing between objects

toybot wrote:

late m4m ;d

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you seem to really like using weird overlaps throughout the map, so i won't make suggestions on them appreciated :3

1. 00:36:155 - throughout this section, you heavily focus on the vocal line, so making this hittable would help it be consistent in that changed
2. 00:47:298 (6) - kinda feel like the tension(?) in the voice here is kinda underwhelmed when you make it a simple 1/1 rhythm well, i think lifting the key up after 1/1 gap fits with the way the vocals build up like this
3. 01:04:441 (5,6,7,8) - maybe make this a perfect rhombus? keeps the aesthetics clean like how you did 01:01:013 (5,6,7,8) - and 00:57:584 (5,6,7,8) - perfect rhombus doesnt make the objects overlap enough for piano emphasis imo (i did try to centre it better tho)
4. 01:13:441 (5,7) - should just stack these tbh, the hitburst can still be seen over 7 and it looks weird af mm idk i dont really like how stacking here plays ^^'
5. 01:46:013 (4,5,1) - makes more sense to have 5 closer to 4 for downbeat emphasis, but your spacing overall is pretty wonky lol but most of my downbeats have antijumps to them for emphasis..
6. 02:09:584 (1,2) - it would make the transition into 1/3 more readable if you were to enlarge this jump a bit haha it certainly would but i dont really think prioritizing readability is a very good idea ever, like for here the direction change and rhythm consistency should be enough for readability, and the current cursor motion is much more fun than larger spacing
7. 02:24:799 (2) - okay please stack this on the tail its tilting me hard lol but this style of object placement is becoming more and more popular even
8. 02:34:013 (1,2,3,1) - why not make a cute little stream instead of a boring stack O W O W O W O well the chorus is winding down rly weaklike, i dont think a stream would fit here and prefer the direct contrast of the 02:29:941 (2,3,4) - and 02:34:013 (1,2,3,1) - stacks
9. 03:05:298 (1) - i really think you should make this shorter and add circles to emphasize the vocals, and to at least make the drum at 03:05:298 (1) - feel more powerful. like, its okay at 03:10:013 (2) - because the vocal actually holds for that long, but here, its shorter mmmm this rhythm is really important to me, it emphasizes the start of this whole verse really well and i dont think ill ever change it ;-;
10. 03:18:584 (3) - might as well extend by 1/8 to mimic 03:04:870 (8) - 's effect as a lead-in to the next note well that would be ok, but there are pretty noticeable beats on both of those tails that im mapping, so those parts are different in some way
11. 03:32:727 (1) - same as above
12. 03:42:155 (8,9) - these look so out of place relative to the curved sliders you usually use lol oops i was supposed to have changed those already after xilver's mod ^^'
13. 04:00:155 (1) - mm, last journey home flashbacks lol, its more based on an old ver of yuko's coloring.
14. 05:05:298 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - would've been cool if these kept expanding outward or showed some kind of gradual trend, but for now it just feels a bit repetitive on purpose, its the same repeated circles jump style ive used throughout the map like at 02:07:870 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - etc
15. 05:16:870 (3,4,5) - this feels a bit jarring to me, because 05:17:298 - feels too weakly emphasized.. and the jump angle is awkward to play when its a linear movement but unequal spacing between objects that spacing thing you talk about is so untrue in so many ways i dont know why people say that.. and i do this smaller spacing for low-pitched drums a lot so i think its fine

cool map gl thank you for modding, you got me to change an intro rhythm which i thought would never happen o:

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