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samplefish
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, March 9, 2018 at 7:50:45 PM

Artist: toby fox
Title: An Ending
Source: UNDERTALE
Tags: kuey Soundtrack RPG Playstation ps4 Steam
BPM: 100
Filesize: 5448kb
Play Time: 03:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.36 stars, 332 notes)
  2. Normal (1.68 stars, 257 notes)
Download: toby fox - An Ending
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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sb by kuey
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hey

its gotta be rough man, finding mods for a map that, lets be honest here, is already pretty much fucking D O N E and R E A D Y F O R R A N K.

Anyway, here are a few changes you should consider:

Artist: toby fox, should probably be "Toby Fox"

Overall, the hitsound volume is much too loud in pretty much all sections, it sticks out pretty hard when playing. haha nevermind i'm retarded I had my music at 55% WHOOPS

Tags should definitely include Sans, as he is the only character that shows up in 100% of "other endings", whether to add the rest of the cast that COULD show up, is up to you.

For real though, I cannot find a single thing I would change about the map's design in either difficulties, have some fucking star power and get this ranked already bruh

Good luck.
Warpyc
Yo dude shitty mod inc since I suck at modding low diff maps, good practice I guess :^)


  • General
  1. Audio bitrate too high, easy to fix in audacity though

    Normal
  2. 02:50:400 (3,4) - Spacing fail
  3. 01:33:600 (1) - I dont like how this overlaps the other slider
  4. 01:38:400 (3) - Curve this down for better flow http://puu.sh/n8XPs/736d10690e.jpg will fuck spacing bu I'm sure normal mappers are used to this

    Hard
    Well I was thinking I'd be able to say something about this but I just ended up watching through the whole map.

    Anyways very well done mapset gl in future and if you end up not changing anything I said please dont kd, have a good day!
Topic Starter
samplefish

Warpyc wrote:

Yo dude shitty mod inc since I suck at modding low diff maps, good practice I guess :^)


  • General
  1. Audio bitrate too high, easy to fix in audacity though will do

    Normal
  2. 02:50:400 (3,4) - Spacing fail fixd
  3. 01:33:600 (1) - I dont like how this overlaps the other slider its ok
  4. 01:38:400 (3) - Curve this down for better flow http://puu.sh/n8XPs/736d10690e.jpg will fuck spacing bu I'm sure normal mappers are used to this i like how it is.

    Hard
    Well I was thinking I'd be able to say something about this but I just ended up watching through the whole map.

    Anyways very well done mapset gl in future and if you end up not changing anything I said please dont kd, have a good day!
hey, sorry for the late response, been busy. thanks for the mod!
Excalurn
this is easy for me XD i have DT HD singletap
ReFaller
I'm holding this beatmap for a long time and seen update few days ago
[Normal]
02:02:400 (1) - if you could make this wave a little neater
[Hard]
Stack leniency 6 is nice to use especially visible 00:16:200 (4,5,1) and 00:43:800 (2,3)
DeletedUser_6181859
Hey from my queue, my name is Max 100bit, and this is my mod!
Well, opinion of modder is opinion of modder.
Do not judge strictly, I could be wrong.
If you change little things from my mod - do not give kudosu. My english is bad, so sorry for googletranslate.

Song and beatmaps

  1. Audio bitrate is so high, you need to reduce it.
  2. Kiai time in any place?

Normal

  1. In this diff you have a lot of unused sliderpoints, like in: 00:12:300 (3) - 00:13:200 (4) - 00:13:800 (5) - 00:22:800 (2) - 00:24:000 (4) - 00:24:600 (5) - etc, you need to fix it
  2. 00:37:200 (3) - slider and circle because you have same pattern in 00:33:600 (3,4)
  3. 00:58:800 (3,4) - you can make repeat slider here because you have same pattern in 00:57:600 (1)
  4. 01:52:800 (3,6) - identical?
  5. 02:01:800 (4,1) - hmm... you can make blanket here imo
  6. 02:06:000 (1) - wow, this slider looks very strange and i guess that it's not allowed
  7. 02:37:800 (6) - Ctrl+J for better flow with 02:38:400 (1)
  8. 03:03:600 (1) - same as in 2:06:000
  9. 03:21:750 (1) - since it's lowest diff you should start spinner from 03:21:900

Hard

  1. 00:01:200 (3) - slider and circle because you have same pattern in 00:00:000 (1,2)
  2. 00:06:600 (7) - hmm... it's allowed?
  3. 00:16:200 (4,5,1) - make identical spacing pls because this pattern is confusing
  4. 00:39:000 (8,1) - overlap in this case seems out of place, you can stack it
  5. 01:12:000 (1,2) - you can stack this note because you have same pattern in 01:13:800 (3,4) for example
  6. 01:15:600 (1,2) - ^
  7. 02:02:400 (1,2) - stack it because you have same pattern in 02:42:000 (1,2)
  8. 02:07:800 (4,5) - blanket?
  9. 02:12:300 (4,1) - you can stack it, looks better
  10. 02:16:800 (1,2) - it's allowed? tbh idk
  11. 02:37:800 (7,1) - improve stack
  12. 02:40:200 (3,5) - same as in 0:39:000
  13. 02:55:200 (4,1) - try to avoid this overlap pls
Nice relaxing song and map.
Good luck!
{end of mod}
-Atri-


I am not great at modding lower difficulties, but hope your understanding

[General]
  1. Unrankable audio file D: the audio be under 192kps and over 128kps...

[Normal]
  1. 01:24:600 (3) - Move to about x:332 y:189 and curve it more, for better flow

[Hard]
  1. 00:42:300 (5,1) - Nazi, but those two were supposed to be blanketed?
  2. 00:53:100 (7) - I think stacking to 00:52:200 (6) - is better, it gives more feeling that the music is stopped for a while
  3. 01:33:600 (1,3) - I know it's not visible in gameplay, but can you make them symmetrical?
  4. 02:16:800 (1,2) - Hmmmm.. if you overlap like that, that might be very hard to read for hard level players, How about curving 02:16:800 (1) - and make 02:18:000 (2) - blanket with 02:18:600 (3) - so there will have more path exposed?

I can't find anything else... This map is solid..

Good Luck~
Topic Starter
samplefish

KuranteMelodii wrote:



I am not great at modding lower difficulties, but hope your understanding

[General]
  1. Unrankable audio file D: the audio be under 192kps and over 128kps... ahh right, will fix

[Normal]
  1. 01:24:600 (3) - Move to about x:332 y:189 and curve it more, for better flow

[Hard]
  1. 00:42:300 (5,1) - Nazi, but those two were supposed to be blanketed? oh not really, theyre just kind of there, i dont think i want to blanket them
  2. 00:53:100 (7) - I think stacking to 00:52:200 (6) - is better, it gives more feeling that the music is stopped for a while ahh debated this for a long while, really good idea, but i think im going to follow the descending tones of notes. i would say that theres still a feeling of paused music because of the low distance.
  3. 01:33:600 (1,3) - I know it's not visible in gameplay, but can you make them symmetrical? oh okay
  4. 02:16:800 (1,2) - Hmmmm.. if you overlap like that, that might be very hard to read for hard level players, How about curving 02:16:800 (1) - and make 02:18:000 (2) - blanket with 02:18:600 (3) - so there will have more path exposed? okay, i think its probably going to get changed sooner or later, i liked it but i guess hard is not the place for it

I can't find anything else... This map is solid..

Good Luck~
thank you very much for your mod and time!! i really appreciate it!
Rieri
Hello~ NM from my queue

Have you considered adding an easy difficulty?
Current audio file is over 192 kbps, I can get you a audio file of 192 kbps if you want it.


Normal
  1. I want to note that the whistles sound very loud and gets really annoying as the song goes. Try changing the volume or the hitsound itself.
  2. Check AiMod for distance errors.
  3. 00:03:600 (1,2) - How come these are mapped with 1/1 sliders instead of 1/2? inconsistency pls fix
  4. 00:31:500 (3,1) - slider (1) should be placed below (3) for better flow.
  5. 01:22:200 (5,1) - blanket maybe?
  6. 03:09:600 (3) - the specific instrument you are following has no sound on the end of this slider, the end should be empty

Hard
  1. 00:31:500 (7,8,9) - the pattern doesn't look nice, i think a simple 1/2 repeat will do
  2. 02:02:400 (1,2) - I found it weird how you didn't stack these
  3. 02:18:000 (2,3) - blanket error
  4. 02:40:200 (3,5) - overlap doesn't look good
  5. I think more emphasis would be the key to really separating normal and hard diff, and since it's instrumentals you can emphasize the notes you choose to put finishes on or depending on the pitch of the notes.

This was one of my lazy mods, sorry for that xd gl
Topic Starter
samplefish

ProEzreal wrote:

Hello~ NM from my queue

Have you considered adding an easy difficulty? well, there wouldnt be much difference between easy and normal, i feel
Current audio file is over 192 kbps, I can get you a audio file of 192 kbps if you want it. oh, i changed it, just didnt upload yet, oops!


Normal
  1. I want to note that the whistles sound very loud and gets really annoying as the song goes. Try changing the volume or the hitsound itself. i think the whistle is fine
  2. Check AiMod for distance errors.
  3. 00:03:600 (1,2) - How come these are mapped with 1/1 sliders instead of 1/2? inconsistency pls fix i feel like theres more variety like this. also its not a very big problem imo
  4. 00:31:500 (3,1) - slider (1) should be placed below (3) for better flow. i like it this way.
  5. 01:22:200 (5,1) - blanket maybe? plays a little worse, so no
  6. 03:09:600 (3) - the specific instrument you are following has no sound on the end of this slider, the end should be empty the piano is there

Hard
  1. 00:31:500 (7,8,9) - the pattern doesn't look nice, i think a simple 1/2 repeat will do [/color]dont think it looks bad
  2. 02:02:400 (1,2) - I found it weird how you didn't stack these oh, sure
  3. 02:18:000 (2,3) - blanket error oh fix
  4. 02:40:200 (3,5) - overlap doesn't look good i think its fine
  5. I think more emphasis would be the key to really separating normal and hard diff, and since it's instrumentals you can emphasize the notes you choose to put finishes on or depending on the pitch of the notes.

This was one of my lazy mods, sorry for that xd gl
Nightstalker
Alrighty, let's do this ^^

Important: Ai-Mod is saying that the bitrate of the file is to high. I agree with it, that you should most likely compress it a little. Just to be safe.

Normal Diff:

SPOILER
  • 01:26:400 - inserting a break-time after that note might be a good idea, since the gap between that note and the next is long enough.

    01:30:000 - the suddenly red-glow pops up out of nowhere in the background. I suggest fading it in, rather then letting it pop up so extremely ^^

    01:44:400 - here for some odd reason fits the red glow popping up. I think (but I'm not 100% sure), the first red glow was too bright, while the second was
    more faded to begin with. Maybe adjust the first glow so it's similar to the second, because the second one is really good.

    03:03:600 - The proportion of the slider is a bit weird, because it is the only slider which looks like that so far. It seems like its meant to react to the piano, which is, if you listen closely, actually playing two notes shortly after another. If that was your intention, then good job, it really adds to the feel of the map, however, consider using the same slider proportion for every similar part of your map, or else it will feel out of place, just like it is doing right now ^^

Hard Diff:

SPOILER
  • 00:12:450 - I think you should place this note instead of on top of the beginning of the next slider, between the end of the previous slider and the beginning of the next slider, so it doesn't break the flow.

    I couldn't find anything else. So, good job ^^

Alright. And last but not least, I personally think you should definitely get one or two Osu!Mania GD's for your Beatmap, since this Song is purely a Piano Song, and that's the perfect thing for Osu!Mania in my opinion ^^

Good job. I like your map. I'll keep an eye out and see how it will evolve :)
I hope I was at least a little bit of a help ^^
Topic Starter
samplefish

Nightstalker wrote:

Alrighty, let's do this ^^

Important: Ai-Mod is saying that the bitrate of the file is to high. I agree with it, that you should most likely compress it a little. Just to be safe. fix

Normal Diff:

SPOILER
  • 01:26:400 - inserting a break-time after that note might be a good idea, since the gap between that note and the next is long enough. i dont really like the break here, its too short for a break, from my experience, i always relax when theres a break, so a break that short might disorient some people.

    01:30:000 - the suddenly red-glow pops up out of nowhere in the background. I suggest fading it in, rather then letting it pop up so extremely ^^ i dont share the same feeling, i feel like popping in is fitting

    01:44:400 - here for some odd reason fits the red glow popping up. I think (but I'm not 100% sure), the first red glow was too bright, while the second was
    more faded to begin with. Maybe adjust the first glow so it's similar to the second, because the second one is really good.

    03:03:600 - The proportion of the slider is a bit weird, because it is the only slider which looks like that so far. It seems like its meant to react to the piano, which is, if you listen closely, actually playing two notes shortly after another. If that was your intention, then good job, it really adds to the feel of the map, however, consider using the same slider proportion for every similar part of your map, or else it will feel out of place, just like it is doing right now ^^ fixed, it was really out of place considering i didnt do it anywhere else.

Hard Diff:

SPOILER
  • 00:12:450 - I think you should place this note instead of on top of the beginning of the next slider, between the end of the previous slider and the beginning of the next slider, so it doesn't break the flow. dont think it breaks flow too much to be relevant. i also like the way this looks

    I couldn't find anything else. So, good job ^^

Alright. And last but not least, I personally think you should definitely get one or two Osu!Mania GD's for your Beatmap, since this Song is purely a Piano Song, and that's the perfect thing for Osu!Mania in my opinion ^^

Good job. I like your map. I'll keep an eye out and see how it will evolve :)
I hope I was at least a little bit of a help ^^
thank you for your mod and time! i appreciate it a lot!
Lanturn
hi
missa1912
hi! from my queue :3
[General]
  1. i feel offset really off tbh, try +40~41
[Normal]
  1. 00:00:000 (1,2) - check DS
  2. 01:40:800 (1) - blanket a bit off
  3. 03:21:000 (6,1) - DS, move (6) a bit up
[Hard]
  1. 02:48:600 (5,1) - this needs to be jump, you did one on 02:45:000 (4,1) - and imo 02:49:200 - can handle one as well
  2. 02:52:800 (1) - stack it on 02:51:000 (4) - head(? same reason ^
    i suk at modding hards and your diff seem pretty solid, so the only i can do is being nazi, sorry ;w;
Topic Starter
samplefish

missa1912 wrote:

hi! from my queue :3
[General]
  1. i feel offset really off tbh, try +40~41 oh youre right, cahnge
[Normal]
  1. 00:00:000 (1,2) - check DS fixed
  2. 01:40:800 (1) - blanket a bit off ok
  3. 03:21:000 (6,1) - DS, move (6) a bit up i dont see the problem
[Hard]
  1. 02:48:600 (5,1) - this needs to be jump, you did one on 02:45:000 (4,1) - and imo 02:49:200 - can handle one as well okay sure
  2. 02:52:800 (1) - stack it on 02:51:000 (4) - head(? same reason ^ going to leave this one for aesthetics
    i suk at modding hards and your diff seem pretty solid, so the only i can do is being nazi, sorry ;w;
thank you for your mod and time! i appreciate it !
DeletedUser_6181859
+12SR, really cool map
rank when?
jschlatt stan
Cool! Mod right here, saw your request on 11/11/16 at 17:29 PST, so lets get started!

Hard
add a circle at this time, 00:17:740 - where this this note was, 00:15:940 (3) - ( in actual space)

also, add a circle at this time, 01:48:940 - because the note makes the rhythm more clear.

add a circle at this time, 02:01:540 - because the note makes the rhythm more clear.

Description: A easy to recognize pattern that is also easy to play, everything seems peaceful when you play it.
(also, a AR7 Hard is kind of low, you should raise it to at least 7.5! :D)

Normal
I think adding a circle here, 00:53:740 - would look like it would fit better, and making that the New Combo instead of the slider that is the next note.

And adding a note here, 02:39:940 (3) - would also make the rhythm more clear.

(I understand why you might not agree with those suggestions, but please consider them! :D)

Description: A slower paced difficulty with a calming pattern.

My pleasure to mod this beatmap, I hope to see this beatmap in the ranked column soon!

-KazutoNotxap :) :) :)
Topic Starter
samplefish

KazutoNotxap wrote:

Cool! Mod right here, saw your request on 11/11/16 at 17:29 PST, so lets get started!

Hard
add a circle at this time, 00:17:740 - where this this note was, 00:15:940 (3) - ( in actual space) going to focus on the melody here, dont think a circle is needed

also, add a circle at this time, 01:48:940 - because the note makes the rhythm more clear. there is no sound here, plus it does not make the rhythm more clear imo

add a circle at this time, 02:01:540 - because the note makes the rhythm more clear. ^

Description: A easy to recognize pattern that is also easy to play, everything seems peaceful when you play it.
(also, a AR7 Hard is kind of low, you should raise it to at least 7.5! it is a very slow song, just because the tag is Hard should not define the AR :D)

Normal
I think adding a circle here, 00:53:740 - would look like it would fit better, and making that the New Combo instead of the slider that is the next note. definitely no, there is no sound here, as well as starting a circle on a red tick after a pause is bad

And adding a note here, 02:39:940 (3) - would also make the rhythm more clear. there is a slider there?

(I understand why you might not agree with those suggestions, but please consider them! :D)

Description: A slower paced difficulty with a calming pattern.

My pleasure to mod this beatmap, I hope to see this beatmap in the ranked column soon!

-KazutoNotxap :) :) :)
thank you for your time, i did not take your suggestions but i very much appreciate the effort!
Garven
Is there a reason why this is in wip?

[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best

[Normal]
In general this feels way too slider-reliant to give the false sense of security that this is an easier map despite the higher pace of rhythms, cursor movement, and high difficulty settings. I would recommend making an easy to make this map more accessible to new players.
02:54:640 (3) - This slider shape sticks out against the rest of the map

[Hard]
01:28:840 (2,3,4,5,1) - For such a big entrance into the chorus (with jumps), the parts after it feel really dull. The pacing feels messed up.
02:40:240 (3,5) - This was a pretty ugly overlap and didn't really fit how you made patterns for the rest of the map

The maps are pretty solid, nice job on that. I just think that the set would be more approachable to newer players with an easier map than the current Normal.
Ayyri
(no kds.)

Source: Undertale -> UNDERTALE

*click*

It's always written in all caps, etc, etc.

Also, add some tags! It seems pretty empty at the moment. lol
Topic Starter
samplefish

Garven wrote:

Is there a reason why this is in wip? oops

[General]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best okay

[Normal]
In general this feels way too slider-reliant to give the false sense of security that this is an easier map despite the higher pace of rhythms, cursor movement, and high difficulty settings. I would recommend making an easy to make this map more accessible to new players. good point, but i dont know about an easy, i feel like id just be putting the same patterns for 5 minutes.
02:54:640 (3) - This slider shape sticks out against the rest of the map changed

[Hard]
01:28:840 (2,3,4,5,1) - For such a big entrance into the chorus (with jumps), the parts after it feel really dull. The pacing feels messed up. okay, i just had it distance snapped.
02:40:240 (3,5) - This was a pretty ugly overlap and didn't really fit how you made patterns for the rest of the map changed

The maps are pretty solid, nice job on that. I just think that the set would be more approachable to newer players with an easier map than the current Normal.
sorry for the late response! thank you for the input, very good points. much appreciated!!
Topic Starter
samplefish

Ayyri wrote:

(no kds.)

Source: Undertale -> UNDERTALE

*click*

It's always written in all caps, etc, etc.

Also, add some tags! It seems pretty empty at the moment. lol
thanks for the help! also, for the tags, im not sure what to put, really.
Cheri
such a simple set ~ i'm currently making a mod and will edit this later on when I am done

EDIT: Alrighty ~ I have a few suggestions

  • Hard
  1. 00:10:240 (6) - I think this would be better if you remove this slider and have 2 circles instead and have piano on both the white tick and red tick clickable since they both pretty strong and seem more fitting that waiting in this map
  2. 00:32:140 (9) - All notes around here is equally strong so I think it best to just have this have the same spacing as 00:31:540 (7,8) -
  3. 01:10:240 - I felt this should have a whistle on the slider head here 2 since it feels empty without one and wouldn't be too annoying or anything
  4. 02:22:840 (5,6,7) - I understand that you been doing some small variation going by the looks of this map but right here you been mostly consistent about so I dont really understand why you choose to have a slider + 2 circle rather than just doing 4 circles like you always do like around this time in this song 02:51:640 (5,6,7,8) - imo I think you should stick to being consistent since the 4 circles emphasis the music around here better
  5. 03:03:040 (5,6,1) - this angle is a bit awkward compare to most of the others times in this map and I think you should adjusted this some to be more comfortable
  6. 03:04:540 (2,3) - I don't really understand this pattern ~ this is the only time you have the circle on top of the slider end and just seems strange to be the only time in this section to be like this when nothing really spectacular is happening and I just think this is just awkward placement and don't feel that well ~ doing something like this picture https://puu.sh/zl7Ng/ac61a65d81.png wouldn't require little rearranging to fix this or something similar
  7. 03:09:940 - to 03:10:540 - around this part I felt this is pretty underemphasis compare to most of the section and having a circle on each of these ticks seems better represent on the song or something similar


  • Normal
  1. 01:10:240 - same thing I said about the hard on this
  2. 01:40:240 - just a suggestion but around this time for I felt having it ending with 2 circles would be better imo consider this is a lot of sliders around this here and having a couple of circles would make it a bit easier on the new player ~ also fits the song better imo ~ that pretty much my only complaint about this difficulty (Btw I prefering to other times similar to above so check all please)




  • General
  1. it's cool

other than my concerns above ~ I don't have a problem pushing this

All I would like is the metadata to be confirm and just call me back in-game once my mod has been address
Topic Starter
samplefish

Hailie wrote:

such a simple set ~ i'm currently making a mod and will edit this later on when I am done

EDIT: Alrighty ~ I have a few suggestions

  • Hard
  1. 03:03:040 (5,6,1) - this angle is a bit awkward compare to most of the others times in this map and I think you should adjusted this some to be more comfortable i feel its just a simple back and forth motion, not that awkward to play





  • General
  1. it's cool

other than my concerns above ~ I don't have a problem pushing this

All I would like is the metadata to be confirm and just call me back in-game once my mod has been address
everything but the above point was changed. will try to get some metadata stuff help, then call you back.

thanks hailie!
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